Elon Musk role in UK's anti-migrant riots utterly irresponsible, am really shocked-Former FT Editor
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Britain's riots "worse than 2011"; they've shown "multiculturalism has its limits"; Elon Musk has behaved "utterly irresponsibly . I am really shocked": Former Editor, Financial Times, Lionel Barber, to Karan Thapar for The Wire.
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One of Britain’s most respected senior journalists and the former Editor of one of the world’s most highly regarded newspapers, The Financial Times, has said that the present riots in Britain, which have continued for eight consecutive days, are “more serious than 2011”, adding that we are likely to see more rioting today or in the days to come. Lionel Barber says the riots have shown that “multiculturalism has its limits”, agreeing that in Britain, despite having had prime ministers, home secretaries, foreign secretaries and chancellors of exchequer of Asian or black origin, multiculturalism is not as successful as people sometimes think.
In a particularly forceful critique, Mr. Barber said Elon Musk, who has been amplifying hate-filled messages by the former leader of the English Defence League known as Tommy Robinson and claiming that Britain could be at the brink of civil war, has behaved “utterly irresponsibly”, adding “I am really shocked by his behaviour”.
In the interview to The Wire, Mr. Barber says that the decision of Home Secretary Yvette Cooper to treat people who whip up hate on social media the same as physical rioters is a significant “rhetorical shift” in Britain’s traditional attitude which has always been in support of free speech. Mr. Barber also says that any steps Britain might take to act toughly against platforms such as Twitter, Facebook, Telegram and TikTok would also be a new departure for the country.
I am only giving you the main points made by Mr. Barber. There’s a lot more in this 30-minute interview which I will leave you to see for yourself. It’s an in-depth discussion and analysis of the riots, the cause or causes behind them, the role of social media, the response of the British government to the way social media is proliferating hate speech and, in addition, the whole issue of integration and multiculturalism and the extent to which multiculturalism is successful or its limitations are now being shown up.
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Who do you think is responsible for every single major problem this country is facing?
Hint: its not Musk.
Mate I think you will have to spell it out for them . Elon is entitled to an opinion an opinion I agree with and have been saying for 2 decades once you have a 2 tier police force , uncheck mass immigration, literally the country is being invaded , then the worse problem the never ending downward decline of the economy . Then it gets worse the government is not listening to the people , I can't see any other outcome other than civil war . I hope I am wrong
these "journalists" are clueless and living under a rock
They live in their own bubble.
Dude. Where is freedom of speech. Elon is just one guy. Just ignore.
Freedom of speech doesn't come without responsibilities. There are conditions.
Freedom of speech includes the right to criticise a racist swindler like Musk
@@tuomaskaila1010 Elon Musk has some cognitive issues for sure otherwise he won't have given such a wise statement on such a sensitive issue. He definitely should not say anything in regards to civil war in the UK, especially when the situation is already tensed.
Who cares but UK is in a big mess
send the illegal immigrants and all this will be over.
And start enforcing the law equally? But no, let's all focus on Elon Musk, is the best distraction they can come up with.
According to these two geniuses the French revolution, Russian revolution, American Revolution and so on shouldn't have taken place because the internet and social media or TV or radio hadn't been invented yet! 😅😅
Blaming the medium and the messenger, while ignoring the root causes!
If Elon is so ignorant, why care his opinion om anything he say's. You don't want to hear the other side of the story so you are pandering reasons.
what is the other side ?
We simply can't allow anyone with actual clout to give even the mildest pushback (valid or not) to our uniparty leaders.
Not sure what Elon Musk said but remember Arab Spring in which Twitter & Facebook facilitated the riots. No one questioned the two!!
Shameless
Uk needs to teach ethics based on karan
This is so scary to hear.
Elon Musk is a genius. He is right about massive immigration in the UK changing society not for the better, and he is right about talking about a potential civil war.
But when it happens will you be able to handle it ? What is ALL the Muslim countries unite then ? No war should ever take place because there will be lots of causalities and think about the young children who have no part in this .. immigration is an issue for the British government not for any other person .. could I come in to your house and tell you what to do ?
Again the problem is same community, grooming gangs is a huge issue, but uk government is against freedom of expression
And now X has banned Bassem Youssef, a guy who actually makes sense and does not say anything provocative.
What a brave journalism ❤
The conversation around Elon Musk is totally hysterical! 😂
They talking as if the blame is entirely on Elon Musk and doesn't take into consideration that people of any country/region does not like major change in their demographic/culture! 😅😂
Any region that experience drastic change in the Culture/ demographic usually act out in violent ways most of the times! 😂
@@trabbit2332 💯
😅😅🙏
Yes but being in a position of power and calling for civil war is kind of unsettling and scary ..
Elon musk totally right because uk people forget about their culture
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Musk may well have his finger on the pulse of the British Nation. Cannot be lightly dismissed ; the migration issue is just but one amongst a number of issues.
We live in strange times
Might call it a joke, if if the consequences weren't so dire and heinous.
Leave Elon alone!
he does not want that himself.
Elon musk is genius 😮
Whats the point blaming the medium or the messenger? It's not like the real problems are going to go away.
Elon you are the greatest
The influence of the so-called billionaire genius should be halted.
Yes, the very last thing we want is someone with actual clout pushing back on the very overlords who have continuously messed up just about everything they are responsible for.
Which one ? Every media giant has a billionaire behind it
Yeah. Like Musk is literally a billionaire who is friends with the Supreme Commander of the GOP. Bought one of the biggest SNS platforms. Took it private for 'free speech' . Shadow bans or outright bans anyone who gives left leaning views. And is now running a multi million dollar per month funding campaign for the GOP candidate. This dude also takes defense and aerospace deals *and is joined at the hip with China* . Every rigjt wing nut is fine with him.
Someone says Soros, and they all start panicking.
The speakers on this site would be upset if someone tried to banish their free speech.
Elon lived invSouth Africa and has seen unrest and how civil war is created, he has a valid input to make
Send this person to jail
Elon musk / x are doing what the BBC, Guardian are doing when reporting in another countries.. giving voice to the voiceless :-) and under represented ...and like any such media venture, i am sure these wise men will have audience in the government chambers to bring a iron curtain over "Journalism"
These journalısts have proven to be clueless tıme and tıme agaın !
Freedom of speech
Why is anyone shocked with Musk's behaviour?
exactly his own kids are confused hahahhahah
Karan Thapar defending freedom of speech …😂😂
He thinks that this roits did happen so long this bcoz of stamer policy in maintaining the law and order,was baised one this lead to chaos,elon is not wrong on labour party negelignce in accomadating britishers
EDL is English Defence League not European Defence League
😂😂😂😂😂😂 he just said what every body else thinks
Playing the role of Mark Antony to the script. These Britishers could never be believed.
What about Indian comments about India becoming Bangladesh from where PM fled! Responsible.
It looks like Britain does not want to become an Islamic nation but wants to remain a secular nation. Secular laws can be against any religion including Islam. For example, in a secular nation people can criticize any religion or religious figures. But the problem with some religions is that they don't allow criticism of their religion or religious figures or prophets. Thus, they deny the freedom to critically examine their religion and its founder/s and practitioners too. Thus,free, liberal, democratic Western civilization and secular societies are being affected now by radical Islam and thus their policies are being revised. Migrants to other nations must need to be able to fit in with the cultural values of those nations otherwise better not to migrate to them. Thank you
Wire celebrates their defiance against right wing government in India, but they don't like the defiance of elon musk against left wing government in England..!!
Elon is right and he is actually saying what most British people all ready think. Instead of worrying about Elon, ADDRESS the historically high number of sexual assault cases committed against British women. Address these new incidents of violence as a whole. Address the dip in quality of living. It isn't a coincidence. The natives of England are losing their country and identity. If the true natives want to keep their identity and values, they need to stand up and fight tyranny.
Two tier policing lead to the civil war in Northern Ireland. Civil was is not a certainty but it is a risk.
Shocked over the comments but the extremism, grooming gangs and riots irrespective of who does it seems acceptable to this joker
What's your direct evidence for your opinion, outside of your own prejudice snd assumptions?
Elon Musk, has brutally killed ‘TWITTER’
Handmer's blog post initially described Musk as having grown up “in an Afrikaner family in apartheid South Africa,
So ??
@@crazyjester993 commen sence prevails...
@@mohammedmurtaza3257 common sense ≠ islam
Yes very proud...
@@mohammedmurtaza3257 I said not equal to common sense
Why does UK love immigrants from non European regions
Elon Musk is upset about hate speech arrests in the UK, asking "Is this the UK or the Soviet Union?". The same guy has no problem implementing the government's draconian laws in India.
Thanks
Excellent!
Mr karan I would like to join your firm as a trainee, is there any opening?
Reaction of UK Govt. is firm but the enemy including Musk must not be under estimated. What Freedom of Speech does Musk talk about if there won't be People.
Cheap labour 🎉
What about the influence of Soros in third world countries.
The difference one finds in school days between the conduct of the students sitting in the front row and the last one.
Indeed, one chooses a row according to his conduct.
Grroming of white girls, by men from a certain community is a real issue..many hundreds have been affected. They also impose Sharia law in certain parts. So I'm not suprised why many are upset. You can't blame elon musk for this surely.
Hindutva bot spotted.
@@Malik-lh4jhkya hua , fact sun ke jhant jal gayi kya , ye to prooven fact h ya isme bhi tujhe saajish dikh gayi
@cogito9350 are you living in UK or a slum in India😅😅😅 know your auqat BC
All are behest of isreal😢
Everyone, including the speakers on this site and comment board have as much access to the internet and x as Musk.
All you have is expressions of disgust. They prove nothing but the state of your own mind.
Cheap labour 🎉
Christianity in UK will meet the same fate as Buddhism in India if mindless migration is not halted.
Not one Christian took part in those riots - thugs are not Christians! The EDL & IDL united long ago, after the mega-rich guy who was funding the IDL decided to fund the EDL and unite them. Tommy Robinson is being funding by his masters - the Israeli Lobby, and is probably staying for free in one of the Israeli owned hotels in Cyprus.
India has.a migration problem?
@@Who-lg9my it did a long time ago, and still does to some extent. India once had 16 world class universities teaching science, laws and secular religion, all destroyed by migrants from the west.
@@Who-lg9my The first migrants were mesopotamians/ Aryans who brought their made up God's to India.
There's nothing wrong in the questions asked by musk
true , same appeasement politics in uk like india
@@FutureAITrend Otter's irresponsible subjective opinion...
@@mohammedmurtaza3257 an opinion is irresponsible? If that's possible, then so is yours.
Whats the chances of a working class kid ever buying a home? Who created that circumstance, and how is he/she supposed to feel about that future being inflicted upon them?
You speak as if buying a home is some fundamental right
not ability to buy a house has many factors... government policies since 30 years ago hadn't major impact
@@saurabhprabhu2119no I didn't.
कनाडा system
5 EYES
why reverse NOW
khali Sthan
Zinda BAD
respect liberty of
EXPRESSION
through masses
on the roads
shouting
threatening
loiting
burning
building... Flag
.. abusing people
anything wrong with what musk pointed out?
@@FutureAITrend civil war by definition is NOT what has happened in the U.K. . It’s organised thuggery by a small group based on fake news created by the far right.
Musk has no idea about British culture or what happens in the country . Stick to what he knows
Otter's irresponsible subjective opinion...
These liberals can't take opinion of others
@@mohammedmurtaza3257please, get a grip.
Elon Musk's inclination and the tweets he promotes is clearly evident.......only people with a neutral understanding of the law will know it.
You say russia may be meddling (you qualify that as saying you don't actually know!!), yet Musk was at US congress for Bibi's speech on the 24th...
It's not of his business
The answer to every major problem: increased surveillance, ramping up of enforcement arm, harsher laws against protest, increased censorship, reduced overton window.
Are you sure that this direction of travel is one that good people choose?
If you consider him responsible, then listen to his views rather than shutting him down and being judgemental. Am shockee how you guys try to show moral highground without getting followers like elon. Most people consider him responsible
Talking about it gives him more coverage.
Most of the coverage so far has been disingenuous.
Elon made an observation.
He did not call for or advocate for civil unrest.
He blew a whistle of warning.
And anyone implying he did anything else is being disengenuous.
But he did make a point whether it is valid or not,l should be the topoc of discussion, not Elon. What is the trajectory of the unrest?
How much worse will it get before it gets better?
Who is going to take responsibility and sort it out?
locking people up for rioting is valid.
But there are lots of people who are not rioting who also have concerns, and who is defusing those concerns?
People on all sides dont want to worry about their kids being harmed no matter who is doing it or what the reason is, do they?
That it has become a concern for anyone for any reason is not a move in the right direction, is it?
Elon will soon be proved rıght !
Only Karan thaper can ask question to musk kid , Karan can teach some lesson like he did other to drink water , musk will piss on pants , Karan the great, but who gives karan salary GS question
Very shallow and ……
Yeh kya ho gaya Karan Bhai??
*Shameless Karan* supporting Islamist Extimist around the world...
which one did he support this time.
Nowadays you are looking outward. Have you run out of domestic issues? Don't get distracted. BJP is still in power.
But why?
racism thats why
@@wassuphomies263 and misinformation
Because of islamic radicals
@@winter_silhouette true
Did he say “colored”foreign secretary?
How dare he have an opinion ? lol get over it snowflakes
Shocked....naturally because Musk is electric.😂
Role of Islam and the Islamist s' behaviour are not discussed.
Typical of these unbiased journalists
Musk is stirring the pot ,with a very big stick.
Start arresting Zubair!
Because he exposed Hindutva lies right baghwa bot
He mentioned about the 800,000 (745,000 exactly) immigrants in the year 2022. 420,000 of them were international students. 80% of these students will return to their home countries after their graduate visa period ends. Also these students bring billions of dollars to the UK. In 2022 alone, foreign students added around 42 billion pounds to the UK economy. This helped the subsidised education of the home students and the financial situation of the universities.
Who exactly is benefitting the most from those billions? And who is benefiting the least?
@@daveisbrill Do your research if you want to know.
Do the students really return?
@@KMSKKKSK360 Again, do your research if you want to know.
@@ajeeshvijayan3869so you haven't done any research so far ?
Shame on Musk and his dumb false prophecies
Why is he speaking the truth.
I saw it in Bristol, horrific
Musk should be the first man to land on Mars on a one way ticket.
El..on using his money n popularity to promote n spread hate
You mean, the truth.
Spreding truth Salman rushdie
UK Govt should first ACCEPT that some people are not happy with large migration (which is making them insecure) and they should find a way to
1. Create awareness of legal and illegal routes and explain why the legal route is important for the UK
2. Show serious action to reduce the illegal route
3. Give confidence that they don't have to be insecure because of the immigration
Nice suggestions
ignorance is bliss
Wasted one
My goodness
Why don't u guys shift to Taliban state.for month..and then come back and make video about greatness of radical issslaam..u r supporting the radicalism under comfort of secular democracy and trying to destroy it
Has Elon Musk's mental health been evaluated?
Elon musk most inconsistent and irresponsible fellow, people should boycott him for being so senseless, inhuman... 😡😡😡
YOU may want the government to gatekeep and curate every iota of information you get to see and hear, and YOU may want the same people to choose what you may be allowed to say. But not EVERYONE feels the same as you about that!
Musk is one of the few remaining people to resist government tyranny over what the public can say snd read, and you think he's the bad guy???
India will have to ban wire!
Tommy is doing work from home.what is wrong with that??
Home sweet Cyprus
Elon Musk might be a genius and a billionare but this irresponsible statement shows his true character.
Had he been a sane person,how come he supports a man like Trump.
What's did he say that's irresponsible?
I would prefer Trump over Starmer any day. How do you defend bigotry against millions like me as you being constructive or even intelligent?
Because he has common sense.
What abt Rohingyas Karan?
U mean to say like soros!
Musk is angry at the loss of Trump in US election race.....
TDS
Popular American RUclipsr "Johnny Harris" has made a video about why Elon Musk might have purchased Twitter (now X) and i would say it's fantastic video
Elon musk must be prosecuted for inciting violence
🤡
These geniuses like Elon Musk always seek attention, they cannot somehow have enough of it
I'm a regular person. I have ZERO power to pushback on the state. Millions of people have thoughts about unfairness similar to mine.
The MSM media have largely abdicated their duty to push back on our overlords.
Musk is one of the few remaining people with clout willing to stand up to leaders, giving voice to what millions of us, though clearly not you, are concerned about.
You want to take that powerful voice away from us, you want the powerful to do as they wish with token pushback. I disagree with you. We need more musks willing to represent the disenfranchised, not less.
Civil war is history of U.K. what exactly is this guy defending ?? Hasn't he heard of Irish and Scottish resistance ?