***** Don't get me started about the plot twists. I thought they're pretty poorly executed. Actually the more I think about it, I wish they didn't introduce so many main characters, especially considering how the last two received very little development time.
+kirbydedede2494 Given how it went, I think they had pressure to have as many characters in your party as GS2 did. Admittedly I think they put a lot of time into Svetta and her unique skill set then anything else.
"Must suck to live forever when you're already super old" "Kraden is over 100 years old?" "Seriously, can anyone tell me why he looks exactly the same?" Poor Kraden...
For the same reason Isaac and Garet barely look older than their sons (I mean, they are supposed to be 46 years old, but look lile 21) It's even stated in game that the exposure to all that Alchemy at the end slowed their aging. So the entire main cast of the original games, including Kraden, age a lot slower now. That also mean that Matthew and Co. will likely die of old age before Kraden even do because of that.
Kraden was exposed to the golden sun however he wasn't directly in the blast all he got from it was a longer lifespan(he ages slower than the others) kraden will most likely outlive the original crew
My only complaints for Dark Dawn would definitely be the points of no return and the lack of save data transfer from TLA. Although it makes sense to bar data transfer considering the time leap.
And considering the DSi dropped support for GBA gamepaks, which actually broke the data transfer feature in MegaMan Battle Network 5 Double Team DS and the Pokemon games.
My brother said he hates this game. He got hit by a car that same day. I also lost my drivers license. Edit: damn my sense of humor was terrible 2 years ago
It annoys me that people can't seem to enjoy the continuation they begged for. They kept the same exact formula for three games now; the same formula everyone loved. I felt nostalgic with this game; just like the others. I will never understand what EVERYONE complains about.
you are so damn right! I just loved Golden Sun dark dawn, just like the first and second Golden Sun game I don't understand them! Let's hope we don't have to wait another 7 Years
What i dislike about the game is that the characters never shut up, i literally stop to watch shows on the computer while spamming x to look up 5 minutes later to see if i can finally continue playing. Not to mention that the characters are either retarded or goody two-shoes.
Because the Story of the game is kinda... unreleated to the other games, even if it's a sequel, It's like the world is completely different... And they leave us with (again) a sequel hook >_>
this is one of my favorites song in dark dawn.also if they will make the next generation they better put sentinel in there with the theme.i was upset they didnt put him in dark dawn.
I had hope. And then Bayonetta won the smash ballot. I mean, you guys can keep on hoping, I won't stop you. I just lost faith that Nintendo cares about this series now.
Even this is the second battle theme, this is likely the first one because is used when starting the "real" adventures in the overworld map or i am wrong?
@michelbug You have to beat the Star magician (I am german....maybe he isn't called Star Magician in english). You'll find him when you explore the purple fog-like place in the northern sea during the grave eclipse
I have nothing much to say about Golden Sun I really like this game and it's been already 5 years since the 3rd one I want a 4th one ._. and maybe see my two fav char (one of them is my picture XD guess the 2nd)
@cha05kn1ght "Also, she can't have been born human since the beastmen were born/mutated after the events of the Golden Sun before her birth." - You have a point there, but if it's one thing we've learned over the years: when the Nintendo is involved in anything nothing ever make sense. (Ex: The Legend of Zelda story). Is Sveta's mother a human? Or is it her father? Or are they both mutated? In the wiki it doesn't list her mother anywhere. What do you know about her?
@JenniferReturn ummm, it's complicated.....basically, the beast men are comprised of humans that mutated animalistic features and animals that mutated human features after the events of the Golden Sun. (She was born after the events of the Golden sun, so she was like that from the beginning.) I suppose it depends on her parents. But i'd guess her parents where human gone beastmen becouse she looks less like an animal then any beastmen in the game. you can tell they intended to make her a-
@JenniferReturn Actually, they are all forbidden love. That's why those stories are so appealing to so many people. And dont forget Spice and Wolf and Chobits. ^_^
i got a question.......what's that thing in the background......i know it's not a boss.....i think.....i mean i've played thru the game...................now i'm going back thru and getting the djinn and soumons i missed...so i might not of encountered it yet but if someone could please tell em what that thing is i'd aprechiate it
Then go get the cleric's ring from Crossbone Isle to negate all the effects of the curse. I really don't recommend using cursed quips unless you have the ring. It's not worth using powerful equipment if you can't even go a battle without using your turns. :P
Given the hints that were in Dark Dawn Nintendo and Camelot pretty much confirmed the 2 canonical romantic couples are Matthew and Sveta, and Tyrell and Karis.
@JenniferReturn I'd much like to think Karis is, but i know it will probably end up being Sveta. Damnit, i wish they made her look just a tad more human. She just crosses that threshold into furry for me. :(
I feel like isaac and felix's themes conveyed that theres a fight going on, this theme is conveying that, but the sense of urgency isnt as high (which is accurate because dark dawn's enemys are weak as hell)
Are you going to extend any of the other battle themes? I'd much like to have those too since the game doesn't appear to have a music player like GS:TLA.
@cha05kn1ght Umm, ok. Well I'm not really aware of the full details of the mutation (nor am I gonna go look it up), but look at it this way: there are many MANY anime shows where humans fall in-love with a half-human which is simular to our discussion. DearS, This Ugly Yet Beautiful World, Elfen Lied, Inuyasha, these are just shows off the top of my head. You can't honestly expect all of this to be forbiddon love?
PLEASE FREAKING READ THIS!!! These are all the secondary title ideas I could think of for the new Golden Sun game: Golden Sun: Dark Eclipse Golden Sun: Lunar Darkness Golden Sun: Chaos Moon Golden Sun: Dark Horizon Golden Sun: Chaos Shadow Golden Sun: Dark Moon Try to think up your own secondary title! I'm trying to make a trend here! Spread this around everywhere in order to support the creation of Golden sun 4! Golden Sun Warriors, UNITE!!! P.S. I vote Isaac for super smash bros 4!
Broken seal was even better than both. but i have to admit that dark dawn boss battle is the most epic out of the 3. there is also the Umbra battle theme thats owns.
@JenniferReturn It's still icky. :( They need to make her slightly less animalistic. Just take the hint of an animal nose and make her face all human and i'll be happy. Maybe turn the paws into human feet.
*snorts* gahaha, wow, I've been plating Valve games too long, haven't I? Lemme fix that "The Warriors of Vale and Kraden aren't Immortal, they just age a LOT slower"
fun to think that Isaac might outlive mattew ^^' consider that everyone that was in the event of the golden sun forming lost the ability to age ^^ go kraden 100+
The entire (main) cast of Golden Sun will outlive the cast of Dark Dawn. Kraden barely aged in 30 years (He still looks in his early 70s despite being over 100) While the kids of the cast age normally (Hence why Matthews and co look ALMOST, as old as their parents.)
@cha05kn1ght So it's not really racial, it's just the appearance (of anyone) that you have an issue with, and Sveta just happens to fall into that category. ..... I think we're through here. This convo has gone on long enough. :)
Matthew is so cool I bet even if he was forty or something he'd still look cool. (unless he goes more than 56 years old.Then he'd be ugly.Not trying to criticize him)
@JenniferReturn .........possibly. >_> But all those examples are less animal like then Sveta. (I havent actually seen This Ugly yet beautiful world, so i cant say for sure on that one). DearS there pretty much hotter humans that just happen to not be from earth. Elfen Lied.......well, i havent watched past the first episode, but she doesnt look too animal like to me. Inuyasha looks precisely like a human save for the ears. there are no facial characteristics in his face that look animal like.
@cha05kn1ght As for my examples, Chi was a robot designed to look like a human, and Holo........well, she's just too damn hot for me to care. ;) They all stay just out of the realm of furry in my opinion. Sveta does not. So it's just unfortunate. But i guess some people dont mind. *shrugs*
@cha05kn1ght Well as long as se was born human and can reproduce with other humans then it should be fine for her to be with Mathew. If you think about it, Adapts aren't too far from being called themself a race as well, mainly because Psynergy is something you're born with. (Curse you Babi!)
@JenniferReturn Oh come now, i wouldn't call that racist even if it was a real race. Different races are still part of the human race. A beastmen wouldnt be. haha Also, she can't have been born human since the beastmen were born/mutated after the events of the Golden Sun before her birth. So she was never at any time a full human. I mean, it might be a cute love story but it's just too furry for my taste.
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Dark Dawn was great. The only thing I could really complain about was the cutoff point for Djinn.
There's always that Great wall glitch.
***** Don't get me started about the plot twists. I thought they're pretty poorly executed.
Actually the more I think about it, I wish they didn't introduce so many main characters, especially considering how the last two received very little development time.
+kirbydedede2494 Given how it went, I think they had pressure to have as many characters in your party as GS2 did. Admittedly I think they put a lot of time into Svetta and her unique skill set then anything else.
I hated the last team members, they joined the team too fast and it felt so rushed.
Dark dawn was fantastic
*plays game for first time*
*hears this theme in battle*
*stays at battle menu*
*never advances so i can listen to this forever*
Isaac:remember to use such and such
Us as Matthew:yea yea dad shut up im trynna jam 😂😂
"Must suck to live forever when you're already super old"
"Kraden is over 100 years old?"
"Seriously, can anyone tell me why he looks exactly the same?"
Poor Kraden...
For the same reason Isaac and Garet barely look older than their sons (I mean, they are supposed to be 46 years old, but look lile 21)
It's even stated in game that the exposure to all that Alchemy at the end slowed their aging. So the entire main cast of the original games, including Kraden, age a lot slower now.
That also mean that Matthew and Co. will likely die of old age before Kraden even do because of that.
He is from lemuria
Kraden was exposed to the golden sun like the other heroes, they receive a lot of psienergic power, to be very longeve.
Kraden was exposed to the golden sun however he wasn't directly in the blast all he got from it was a longer lifespan(he ages slower than the others) kraden will most likely outlive the original crew
Kraden drank from the Lemurian fountain of youth
I really like the instrumentation for this song. That more percussive and airy tone with the organs is neat.
My only complaints for Dark Dawn would definitely be the points of no return and the lack of save data transfer from TLA. Although it makes sense to bar data transfer considering the time leap.
And considering the DSi dropped support for GBA gamepaks, which actually broke the data transfer feature in MegaMan Battle Network 5 Double Team DS and the Pokemon games.
Probably the best thing about Dark Dawn are the two battle themes. Also the character design is pretty sick.
My brother said he hates this game. He got hit by a car that same day. I also lost my drivers license.
Edit: damn my sense of humor was terrible 2 years ago
It's as if there's a connection somehow...
Nah, I'm just overthinking it.
WilE04 Boi Yellow water has an indescriminatingly difficult time dissapating in water/ Thats this series problem.
Is he okay?
@@yes.6892 r/whooooosh
w0ah
Still waiting for the dark dawn sequel 🙏🏻
the one thing that remains consistent through this series is the amazing battle themes
It annoys me that people can't seem to enjoy the continuation they begged for. They kept the same exact formula for three games now; the same formula everyone loved. I felt nostalgic with this game; just like the others. I will never understand what EVERYONE complains about.
you are so damn right! I just loved Golden Sun dark dawn, just like the first and second Golden Sun game
I don't understand them! Let's hope we don't have to wait another 7 Years
What i dislike about the game is that the characters never shut up, i literally stop to watch shows on the computer while spamming x to look up 5 minutes later to see if i can finally continue playing. Not to mention that the characters are either retarded or goody two-shoes.
Because it's easy as fuck and has absolutely no challenge at all.
Tomi Jutila you obviously are not a hardcore fan then even i read everything and enjoy this title to it's full potential!
Because the Story of the game is kinda... unreleated to the other games, even if it's a sequel, It's like the world is completely different... And they leave us with (again) a sequel hook >_>
Most favorite standard battle theme from the Golden Sun series.
The feeling when ... 0:39 kicks in...
You really like Golden Sun, huh? It's ok
I can understand why
Flashbacks of playing as isaac and watching ivan die for the 198th time to a mob thats 10 levels lower than he is
listen closely and he adopts isaac's drum part from the first game (they are closely similar)
Felix is by far my favourite Golden Sun character.
this is one of my favorites song in dark dawn.also if they will make the next generation they better put sentinel in there with the theme.i was upset they didnt put him in dark dawn.
And the updated summon graphics catastrophe is my favorite summon and they made him look so clean 😏
Second part of the history battle them hit different you can feel the dofficulty of all the battles
God damnit, the amount of monsters that I killed while listening to this
Absolutely _stunning._ Such a smart, Epic and multi-layered bolero.
I love this song. It is the best. The remix for it is awesome. Its the one when you encounter monsters in the ship.
hope the next storyline will come for the 3ds :D
+jocovaar Still waiting over here :')
+jocovaar AAAAANNNDDD..... The series is likely dead now.
still hoping you know.
since even disney is gonna make an incredibles 2 .
so theres still hope left
hahahhah you're so right. Never lose the hope.
I had hope. And then Bayonetta won the smash ballot. I mean, you guys can keep on hoping, I won't stop you. I just lost faith that Nintendo cares about this series now.
Jesus man this theme SCREEEEAMS Sakuraba.
All Motoi Sakuraba songs have the same sounds, this reminds me of Star Ocean, Valkire Profile etc
If I remember correctly, he did Star Ocean. May be wrong tho.
He did Valkyrie Profile, lemme check Star Ocean...
Yeah, he did Star Ocean, too. Add Tales of, and Dark Souls to that list.
The Key To Strangling A Baby Triceratops
yep, he's very easy to recognize
Dark Souls is more surprising, though. it's a much different style.
Even this is the second battle theme, this is likely the first one because is used when starting the "real" adventures in the overworld map or i am wrong?
Juni Delgado Colon you rite
@michelbug You have to beat the Star magician (I am german....maybe he isn't called Star Magician in english). You'll find him when you explore the purple fog-like place in the northern sea during the grave eclipse
@JenniferReturn
Sveta, probably. The ending puts the accent on their ''closeness''.
So catchy...the boat version of this song was nice as well, but I like both of them really
I really want to get though this game but I can only emulate it currently and trying to make the ROM work makes me want to cry
I have nothing much to say about Golden Sun I really like this game and it's been already 5 years since the 3rd one I want a 4th one ._. and maybe see my two fav char (one of them is my picture XD guess the 2nd)
I assume Reif
+GMH Games (Gregmaster) nope It's in my name
+LunarIvan hey we have the same favorite the only Male wind adept you got and it upsets me he didn't make an appearance in DD 😳
@colticide If you meant the orignal melodies, you sir are correct.
Who’s still listening in 2022 ? 😢
@cha05kn1ght Question, Sveta has human cells inside her right? (Don't know, never played the game)
@cha05kn1ght "Also, she can't have been born human since the beastmen were born/mutated after the events of the Golden Sun before her birth." - You have a point there, but if it's one thing we've learned over the years: when the Nintendo is involved in anything nothing ever make sense. (Ex: The Legend of Zelda story).
Is Sveta's mother a human? Or is it her father? Or are they both mutated? In the wiki it doesn't list her mother anywhere. What do you know about her?
Feel the freezing might!! DIAMOND BERG!! (encases enemies in ice......slash, slice, smash....PWN!!)
The problem with Dark Dawn : No arena... And no L/R code for all the musics...
@JenniferReturn ummm, it's complicated.....basically, the beast men are comprised of humans that mutated animalistic features and animals that mutated human features after the events of the Golden Sun. (She was born after the events of the Golden sun, so she was like that from the beginning.) I suppose it depends on her parents. But i'd guess her parents where human gone beastmen becouse she looks less like an animal then any beastmen in the game. you can tell they intended to make her a-
i was about to die when i heard the first battle theme after craggy peak ruins
WHY IS THERE NO REMIX OF THIS !!!???
@michelbug
It's Asur, the strongest Mercury-Summon
@JenniferReturn Actually, they are all forbidden love. That's why those stories are so appealing to so many people. And dont forget Spice and Wolf and Chobits. ^_^
@Quinyel but how do u even get it .-. i mean i have all of the Djinn and the soumons i can find o-o and i havent gotten tht
i got a question.......what's that thing in the background......i know it's not a boss.....i think.....i mean i've played thru the game...................now i'm going back thru and getting the djinn and soumons i missed...so i might not of encountered it yet but if someone could please tell em what that thing is i'd aprechiate it
I got this game for 3 bucks in 2019 lol
I got it for 17€ in 2019 too and Im really lucky because the game goes for sinfully high prices on Amazon
even that's too much
Then go get the cleric's ring from Crossbone Isle to negate all the effects of the curse. I really don't recommend using cursed quips unless you have the ring. It's not worth using powerful equipment if you can't even go a battle without using your turns. :P
So.... who's gonna fuck with Mathew? Any takers?
:)
Given the hints that were in Dark Dawn Nintendo and Camelot pretty much confirmed the 2 canonical romantic couples are Matthew and Sveta, and Tyrell and Karis.
I prefer battle theme 1, but this one matches Sakuraba's usual style better. IE, its awesome.
NeoArashi In my opinion, battle theme 1 sounds like it belongs in a Mario Sports game.
@@altariablues eh, you're not wrong. Most of the early Mario Sport game were composed by Sakuraba, after all
Don't fuck with Mathew! He takes after his father! lol
@JenniferReturn I'd much like to think Karis is, but i know it will probably end up being Sveta. Damnit, i wish they made her look just a tad more human. She just crosses that threshold into furry for me. :(
Lol Tyrell bashes him on that to :P
This theme is certainly more lighthearted compared to Isaac and Felix's battle themes.
I feel like isaac and felix's themes conveyed that theres a fight going on, this theme is conveying that, but the sense of urgency isnt as high (which is accurate because dark dawn's enemys are weak as hell)
@@2startbuttons820 or how they are normal creatures exposed to psynergy
0:55
Trololo ft Arthur
Are you going to extend any of the other battle themes? I'd much like to have those too since the game doesn't appear to have a music player like GS:TLA.
Then a Lemurian Hipster comes out of nowhere....
@cha05kn1ght Umm, ok.
Well I'm not really aware of the full details of the mutation (nor am I gonna go look it up), but look at it this way: there are many MANY anime shows where humans fall in-love with a half-human which is simular to our discussion. DearS, This Ugly Yet Beautiful World, Elfen Lied, Inuyasha, these are just shows off the top of my head. You can't honestly expect all of this to be forbiddon love?
this versions is much better :D
I bet Kraden´s bones are almost dust xD
Hey, cool. A fellow solblade lol.
Kinda wished they kept this as the main battle theme instead of switching it after leaving Passaj. =/
trololo and weather guy did this
PLEASE FREAKING READ THIS!!!
These are all the secondary title ideas I could think of for the new Golden Sun game:
Golden Sun: Dark Eclipse
Golden Sun: Lunar Darkness
Golden Sun: Chaos Moon
Golden Sun: Dark Horizon
Golden Sun: Chaos Shadow
Golden Sun: Dark Moon
Try to think up your own secondary title! I'm trying to make a trend here! Spread this around everywhere in order to support the creation of Golden sun 4! Golden Sun Warriors, UNITE!!!
P.S. I vote Isaac for super smash bros 4!
How about golden sun book IV lol
How about an ACTUAL title? Be serious!
Golden Sun: Anal Reconstruction
Golden Sun: Nuts and Bolts.
Roberto You are amazing. That title idea...
Broken seal was even better than both. but i have to admit that dark dawn boss battle is the most epic out of the 3. there is also the Umbra battle theme thats owns.
best battle theme in the game... too bad you lose it
Sound so "Star Ocean"y
@JenniferReturn It's still icky. :(
They need to make her slightly less animalistic. Just take the hint of an animal nose and make her face all human and i'll be happy. Maybe turn the paws into human feet.
*snorts* gahaha, wow, I've been plating Valve games too long, haven't I?
Lemme fix that
"The Warriors of Vale and Kraden aren't Immortal, they just age a LOT slower"
Edward Khil and Arthur made a good cover
@skyrander Its ironic Kraden gets eternal youth but he's already an old man. That's just terrible lol
@cha05kn1ght Appealing to many people huh? Even you?
:P
@JenniferReturn nothing more then i've already stated. So i'm really just going on opinion after that. :(
this is such an Ys track...
fun to think that Isaac might outlive mattew ^^' consider that everyone that was in the event of the golden sun forming lost the ability to age ^^ go kraden 100+
That's not fun at all!
That's just depressing...
@@CaptainCFalcon I made that comment 9 years ago. WHAT THE HELL MAN haha :D
The entire (main) cast of Golden Sun will outlive the cast of Dark Dawn. Kraden barely aged in 30 years (He still looks in his early 70s despite being over 100) While the kids of the cast age normally (Hence why Matthews and co look ALMOST, as old as their parents.)
@@NeoArashi god this video is over 11y old AND WE STILL GOT NO ANSWAR TO THIS. :)
@cha05kn1ght So it's not really racial, it's just the appearance (of anyone) that you have an issue with, and Sveta just happens to fall into that category.
..... I think we're through here. This convo has gone on long enough.
:)
I really prefer this one over the one from craggy peaks...
Matthew is so cool I bet even if he was forty or something he'd still look cool.
(unless he goes more than 56 years old.Then he'd be ugly.Not trying to criticize him)
@JenniferReturn .........possibly. >_>
But all those examples are less animal like then Sveta. (I havent actually seen This Ugly yet beautiful world, so i cant say for sure on that one). DearS there pretty much hotter humans that just happen to not be from earth. Elfen Lied.......well, i havent watched past the first episode, but she doesnt look too animal like to me. Inuyasha looks precisely like a human save for the ears. there are no facial characteristics in his face that look animal like.
The other theme is better but this one is OK.
@cha05kn1ght As for my examples, Chi was a robot designed to look like a human, and Holo........well, she's just too damn hot for me to care. ;)
They all stay just out of the realm of furry in my opinion. Sveta does not. So it's just unfortunate. But i guess some people dont mind. *shrugs*
First battle theme is way better than this
@cha05kn1ght Well as long as se was born human and can reproduce with other humans then it should be fine for her to be with Mathew. If you think about it, Adapts aren't too far from being called themself a race as well, mainly because Psynergy is something you're born with. (Curse you Babi!)
@cha05kn1ght -possible love interest.
then don't listen to it
XD
I dont like Matthew's theme as much as I like Isaac's new theme.
It was only "not as good as TLA". It was far from "sucked".
@JenniferReturn Oh come now, i wouldn't call that racist even if it was a real race. Different races are still part of the human race. A beastmen wouldnt be. haha
Also, she can't have been born human since the beastmen were born/mutated after the events of the Golden Sun before her birth. So she was never at any time a full human. I mean, it might be a cute love story but it's just too furry for my taste.
Out of the "generic-enemie-random-encounter music" from Dark Dawn, this the one I prefer
Nobody cares
this game was trash tbh i only played it trough once unlike the original game