It reminds me of this one from Bleach: "The average person admires perfection and seeks to obtain it. But, what’s the point of achieving perfection? There is none. Nothing. Not a single thing. I loathe perfection! If something is perfect, then there is nothing left. There is no room for imagination. No place left for a person to gain additional knowledge or abilities. Do you know what that means? For scientists such as ourselves, perfection only brings despair. It is our job to create things more wonderful than anything before them, but never to obtain perfection. A scientist must be a person who finds ecstasy while suffering from that antimony."
Victor tried to fix everybody, stop their struggles and suffering, only to end up in an empty silent world with nobody but himself to speak to. Thats when he started traveling back in time, trying to stop OTHER VICTORS from different worlds from making the same mistake. Rip to the original old victor in the hoodie, hes the only victor that wont have his world fixed.
Presumably none of the other Viktors got stopped from destroying their worlds either, except for that one that Ekko and Heim went to where Hextech never happened.
It is implied that THIS (and lol before arcane being canon) where the timelines with the BEST outcome for Jayce and Viktor If they don't meet each other both of them die eventually (even so that at the start of the show Jaycee was thinking on jumping and take his own life, Viktor would die eventually due to his illness) Yet when they meet hex-tech it's made and the world turns into suffering, chaos or death around them This is by far the better outcome they can do
@@TheRealRightPriceWell, not anymore after ekko and heimer reintroduced it, now powder in that dimension could probably use hextech, and viktor could somehow come into contact with an anomaly before his body deteriorated
@@BreatheManually And yet I doubt it. It seems like Alternate-Timeline Powder left the hex crystals in the bag all this time, in the drawer where she leaves the pendant with her and Ekko's faces. She never showed the crystals to anyone, and I think she wants to keep it that way. Otherwise, she would've showed Ekko and Heimerdinger the crystals she already had. It's like what she puts in the drawer represents what she wants to forget or put behind her, which is so tragic for her.
It’s crazy how Viktor didn’t just want to stop himself from completing the glorious evolution, because he could’ve just never given Jayce the runes at all, but instead he wanted Jayce to find a way to save him
Damn. I didn’t think about it like that. That’s an incredible analysis, and so obvious now that it’s been stated. This show is ludicrously well written. Truly some of the most outstanding talent in the world worked on arcane.
It's kind of like how Vi was the jinx all along. If vi died in the explosion in dongers lab, everything would have worked out. Benzo, claggor and milo live, powder remains sane, Vander and silco work TOGETHER... vi is how, and where everything goes wrong again, and again, and again. Never giving jayce a rune means never existing, as Viktor would have died a diseased man, or even worse, a machine with a heart that loathes himself. Dude had the time rune and checked alternate realities, you really think he hadn't seen the one where he chose not to give jayce a rune?
@@devontesaunders4913 Nah Vi was not the jinx all along. Saying its her fault again and again for every wrong thing happening is not right. Vi dying lead to different outcomes . 1 - She died in Jayce's appartment where he did unregulated experiments with hexgems which leads to Jayce's banishment, imprisonment or he commited suicide 2 - Vander went from taking it slow to quickly making shit work and since Silco would have heard about Vi's death and Vander being lost thus he eventually found and read Vanders letter and reconciled I am sure the same would have happend if Claggor , Mylo or even Powder died
I'm too smooth brained to understand this quote. Is Victor saying once you achieve perfection, there is nothing else to acheive/work or look forward to?
@@thecoldone-c6i when you have what you want. You will feel bored right? So Victor feels that too. He wants to see more of what it can become. There is no end but in many the end that victor sees. He realizes he loves Jayce and wants to live normally and have a child. =)))
@@thecoldone-c6i He basically said he wanted to cure all illness and inperfections and recalls what Jayce said which was something like "There's beauty in imperfections", here he says "There's no price to perfection, only an end to pursuit" in short it means that there is no real perfection obtainable, he realized he had the perfect life before, only Jayce was able to show him "perfection" and he simply didn't know what he had till he lost it all, that's how I understood the quote itself
@@thecoldone-c6i humans are hopelessly flawed creatures. We do horrible things for selfish reasons, but one of humans greatest traits is that of problem solving. we build and strive for perfection with everything in us as a collective. This blend of flaws and pursuit of perfection is what makes us human, and their complete opposites, as perfection is the absence of flaws. What Viktor is essentially saying is that the result of perfection is an end to humanity… it’s nothing, just unending static, lukewarm, sensory-deprived, perfect nothingness for all eternity. …Humans are flawed, and it’s through those flaws that we love, that we hate, that we have passion, and though those emotions, we find our drive to bring about a perfect world, but if we achieve that perfection, it’s the end. One can ponder the implications of everything that must be absent in order for perfection to reign, but that is the short and simple of it. Edit: maybe this is a better breakdown- “there is no prize to perfection” this means that perfection is not a prize, it’s actually just nothing because something implies there is conflict somewhere. “Only an end to pursuit” humanity is the pursuit, so to speak.
@@thecoldone-c6iwell, the show managed to explain it very literally and straight up - with the very dimension they're in. People there were subjected to a sort of perfection: they're immortal, free of all illneses (well, technically anyway), need no nutrients, have no inclination for conflicts of any kind, nor ambition to fulfill. As a small side effect of such perfection - they've ceased living, and now merely exist, eternally content, all of their pursuits ended. Literally given us an illustration. So, yeah, sometimes the journey could simply be more important, than the destination.
I like that Viktor doesn’t necessarily say he was wrong, he only states that perfection loses its luster once it’s obtained. He DID end world suffering, solved every single problem. There’s just nothing to do afterward. No question to ask, nor an answer to pursue.
@@darkpain2452 it wasn't every timeline. The one Ekko traveled to is proof, though this is mostly because Jayce and Victor were out of the picture this time.
if you put someone in a room by themselves with a button that delivers an electric shock that physically hurts them and tell them that's what it does they'll still push it if you leave them alone along enough. People need something happening, boredom somehow is worse than pain.
SPOILER To me one of the greatest lines and a summation of over 2.000 years of philosophical, mythological and religious endeavour is Viktors line in the end. "They want better lives. But emotion clashes with reason. Humanities self-corrupting contradiction." Also very fitting as a reason for all the conflict we have in the world. I love how they also processed it in the end. But jayces resolution is even better: "There is beauty in imperfection."
@@cheesypizzajokesthere's no beauty in death. But if you really believe that there is, then just imagine if all the people you love dies before you. Your children, parents, wife/husband, family. If you can accept all those things to happen, then good for you.
And you are wrong. The ultimate source of confrontation is resources and power. The world is material, all the wars are initiated by Materialistic causes, emotion is just part of Ideaological reasoning. If you are blind to this you are doomed to perish in WW3.
This is what true unbridled, masculine friendship should look like. Think about how Achilles and Patroclus spoke of each other, they loved each other so deeply it became carnal, but the basis of that relationship was pure platonic love and genuine respect for each other. This is a slightly reduced form of that mostly because Jayce and Viktor aren’t fucking.
Their friendship and story is so tragic especially when it was revealed that the only reason Jayce is alive in this timeline is because Viktor saved him when he was a kid so that what happened in the AU timeline doesn’t happen in the original.
There's a big difference between the person who gains power and says, "I would make everything good" and the one who says, "I would make everything perfect."
Weird thing is, he did bring peace and unity to the world. But what's the point of that if people can't enjoy life (as I understood they became part of the hive mind /zombies)?
More like a forced peace that later turned into silence as that all of them lost their physical bodies and then it is implied that his minds also faded away eventually
I wish we saw how much the Arcane affected the world. Like did Viktor have it spread only throughout pullover and zaun? Or was he able to stop other world ending threats with it?
Simply said I think Viktor did try to save the world and end the suffering but at the end all there is just Nothingness which I believe is not what Viktor as a Human being expected so I believe Viktor just made the whole world end their suffering but realised its not Cool Actually speaking VIKTOR is a God that we wanted ie, put an end to the suffering but realised the suffering the imperfection is what makes us a LIVING THING so he just did what every GOD in our world is Doing NOT DOING ANYTHING JUST LETTING IT BE
@@Hellothere-ss4jqViktor is probably way stronger than you think, the authors of the series confirmed his use in future stories and said that since the beggining Viktor in the end would be so strong only himself(from the future) could stop him
@@pedroalmeida1456 within the confines of Arcane that it is true but if we zoom out to Runeterra as a whole it can't be true, on a world scale Viktor doesn't have the power to contend with world ending threats (Mord, Darkin, World Runes, Viego, the Void, pissed off Aurelion) and that's okay.
@@Hellothere-ss4jq considering Viktor traveled in time multiple times to be able to tell jayce how to stop him instead of just trying to find a darkin to kill him it is very possible those creatures were not enough
He gave Jayce every rune across multiple timeloops. The one that succeeded was the Acceleration rune, because thats the one that Ekko used as a basis for his Z Drive. Ekko is the real hero of Arcane!
I think there aren’t other Viktors, more like the same Victor and Jayce in a time loop multiple times, starting with a different rune in each loop. Otherwise Viktor could just step in other Viktor’s position like Ekko did and stop his evolution plan.
just imagine how is that incredible all of that parallel spaces and he just searching that one Jayce in some space to stop what will happen in the new universe
Maybe God and the Devil aren't enemies. Maybe humans trapped God in their ideas of Perfection, forced him to become stagnant and immobile, and the Devil keeps tearing those ideas down in order to set God Free.
I always liked to thought that devil is a prisoner of human idea of him and of BAD and EVIL, just like in the show Lucifer or in original comics Lucifer, he said something like "they always blame me and I am tired, I can't MAKE them to do evil, its their nature they cannot accept and stop blaming someone else for their sins" Maybe both of them trapped in our ideas....
@@vadman5537 Our ideas of the Devil as a repulsive figure may be a result of the larger will at play, working to maintain the status quo. Thereby do we deny his efforts to free God from our grasp, and maintain our parasitic hold over God. This would also explain why those who consume too much of God become stagnant themselves, as they consume too much to the point of accumulating within themselves the venom by which our collective will renders God helpless to escape. And likewise, those amongst us who reject these practices, who do not partake in the sustainance of God's eternal imprisonment and adopt alternate or abstinence spiritualism are actually the ones who do God a kindness, even if in doing so they believe that they are rejecting God's, or the idea of God's, imposition within the framework of our lives. When in reality it is not God's interference with their independence, but their and our interference with God's independence, that is the real transgression. I wonder if the ostracization or outright harm that these "Godless" people face by many present forces is yet another aspect of the forces that seek to maintain the Prison that we have constructed for such a divine creature. Maybe I should start my own religion.
It's ironic to me that something like Arcane can deliver this message to such resounding acceptance, and yet modern culture acts so indignant at the idea that God would create an imperfect world. Such inconsistency.
So back in Arcane S1, there was a mage gave Jayce a crystal or something like that, can't remember now. You're saying that was Viktor from future or another timeline?
But if Viktor never saved Jayce as kid and gave him a rune, he never would have encountered hex tech, Viktor would have just succumed to his cancer. How is the lifeless end of the earth the final result in every timeline? It only happens if Viktor actively intervenes in the past saving Jayce and thus allowing that end
Jayce was designed before the release of Arcane. It wouldn’t make any sense to just kill the character before he grows up. I understand you point, but lore wise it wouldn’t make any sense. If it was just a random side character then leaving him would be the best action to take.
The first time Jayce tried to convince Viktor is where Jayce and Viktor are in the clip. Jayce didn't persuade Viktor the first time. That version of Viktor saw out that version of things and tries to find someone to convince Viktor at the crucial moment to change course. That person ended up being the Jayce in the reality we have been following. I assume he tried other Jayce's and maybe even completely different people which I assume would have changed a whole load of things.
It was needed, else ambessa would be destroying everything and Zaun Piltover wouldn't have unified for a greater cause. We are talking that Viktor could see the best outcome
@TDGVgreat good point actually. Piltover was getting wrecked if zaun didn't come to help them last second they might have lose. But if Victor did decided to help... I mean if Victor make those white robotic puppet then those things will destroy ambessa army as long as the entire noxus didn't wage a full war on them.
@@wallnut7624 which noxus will if ambessa loses. She's a general and im pretty sure she would be able to convince noxus to invade PnZ considering the immense potential for weapons of war in there
can someone explain this paradox ? i mean viktor gives jayce the stone to create hextech, but how did the first version that gave him the stone get to magic without jayce because jayce only did it wbecause he gave him the stone. so he went back in time to start something that already happend because he couldnt go back in time without jayce
But evolution is always dictated by outside influences: whether that be struggle, or desire. Which means as long as it is within the bounds of humanity, it can never be achieved.
ure messing up different concepts brother... our body can always evolve to adept our surroundings, but Viktor is referring to the core of our humanity emotions, those are the root of our greatest kindness as well as evil... and it is impossible to end suffering in this world as long as these emotions exist within us, hence there wont be perfection
Jayce didn't exist so he discovered it somehow else. Then this apocalyptic void happened so he seeked out a way to stop his past self which ended up Jayce was the key
"There is no prize to perfection. Only an end to the pursuit." This line is so good.
It reminds me of this one from Bleach: "The average person admires perfection and seeks to obtain it. But, what’s the point of achieving perfection? There is none. Nothing. Not a single thing. I loathe perfection! If something is perfect, then there is nothing left. There is no room for imagination. No place left for a person to gain additional knowledge or abilities. Do you know what that means? For scientists such as ourselves, perfection only brings despair. It is our job to create things more wonderful than anything before them, but never to obtain perfection. A scientist must be a person who finds ecstasy while suffering from that antimony."
@@Eros-dz5wp did Kurotsuchi the goat say that?
@@dan_da5213yup
Everything Viktor has ever said was so true
Someone should tell this to my boss.
Bro became Jesus, Darth Vader, and then Eren Yeager all in one season
Victor tried to fix everybody, stop their struggles and suffering, only to end up in an empty silent world with nobody but himself to speak to.
Thats when he started traveling back in time, trying to stop OTHER VICTORS from different worlds from making the same mistake.
Rip to the original old victor in the hoodie, hes the only victor that wont have his world fixed.
Presumably none of the other Viktors got stopped from destroying their worlds either, except for that one that Ekko and Heim went to where Hextech never happened.
It is implied that THIS (and lol before arcane being canon) where the timelines with the BEST outcome for Jayce and Viktor
If they don't meet each other both of them die eventually (even so that at the start of the show Jaycee was thinking on jumping and take his own life, Viktor would die eventually due to his illness)
Yet when they meet hex-tech it's made and the world turns into suffering, chaos or death around them
This is by far the better outcome they can do
@@TheRealRightPriceWell, not anymore after ekko and heimer reintroduced it, now powder in that dimension could probably use hextech, and viktor could somehow come into contact with an anomaly before his body deteriorated
@@BreatheManually And yet I doubt it. It seems like Alternate-Timeline Powder left the hex crystals in the bag all this time, in the drawer where she leaves the pendant with her and Ekko's faces.
She never showed the crystals to anyone, and I think she wants to keep it that way. Otherwise, she would've showed Ekko and Heimerdinger the crystals she already had.
It's like what she puts in the drawer represents what she wants to forget or put behind her, which is so tragic for her.
Just like God Madok...
It’s crazy how Viktor didn’t just want to stop himself from completing the glorious evolution, because he could’ve just never given Jayce the runes at all, but instead he wanted Jayce to find a way to save him
Also Jayce might have died in the blizzard without Viktor’s help and Viktor couldn’t let his bro die
Damn. I didn’t think about it like that. That’s an incredible analysis, and so obvious now that it’s been stated. This show is ludicrously well written. Truly some of the most outstanding talent in the world worked on arcane.
It's kind of like how Vi was the jinx all along.
If vi died in the explosion in dongers lab, everything would have worked out. Benzo, claggor and milo live, powder remains sane, Vander and silco work TOGETHER... vi is how, and where everything goes wrong again, and again, and again.
Never giving jayce a rune means never existing, as Viktor would have died a diseased man, or even worse, a machine with a heart that loathes himself. Dude had the time rune and checked alternate realities, you really think he hadn't seen the one where he chose not to give jayce a rune?
If vik never gave jayce the rune,
There would no hextech,
Thus there would be no future viktor no?
O.O?
@@devontesaunders4913 Nah Vi was not the jinx all along. Saying its her fault again and again for every wrong thing happening is not right.
Vi dying lead to different outcomes .
1 - She died in Jayce's appartment where he did unregulated experiments with hexgems which leads to Jayce's banishment, imprisonment or he commited suicide
2 - Vander went from taking it slow to quickly making shit work and since Silco would have heard about Vi's death and Vander being lost thus he eventually found and read Vanders letter and reconciled
I am sure the same would have happend if Claggor , Mylo or even Powder died
“There is no prize to perfection, only an end to pursuit.” That line is crazy.. and real
I'm too smooth brained to understand this quote. Is Victor saying once you achieve perfection, there is nothing else to acheive/work or look forward to?
@@thecoldone-c6i when you have what you want. You will feel bored right? So Victor feels that too. He wants to see more of what it can become. There is no end but in many the end that victor sees. He realizes he loves Jayce and wants to live normally and have a child. =)))
@@thecoldone-c6i He basically said he wanted to cure all illness and inperfections and recalls what Jayce said which was something like "There's beauty in imperfections", here he says "There's no price to perfection, only an end to pursuit" in short it means that there is no real perfection obtainable, he realized he had the perfect life before, only Jayce was able to show him "perfection" and he simply didn't know what he had till he lost it all, that's how I understood the quote itself
@@thecoldone-c6i humans are hopelessly flawed creatures. We do horrible things for selfish reasons, but one of humans greatest traits is that of problem solving. we build and strive for perfection with everything in us as a collective. This blend of flaws and pursuit of perfection is what makes us human, and their complete opposites, as perfection is the absence of flaws. What Viktor is essentially saying is that the result of perfection is an end to humanity… it’s nothing, just unending static, lukewarm, sensory-deprived, perfect nothingness for all eternity.
…Humans are flawed, and it’s through those flaws that we love, that we hate, that we have passion, and though those emotions, we find our drive to bring about a perfect world, but if we achieve that perfection, it’s the end.
One can ponder the implications of everything that must be absent in order for perfection to reign, but that is the short and simple of it.
Edit: maybe this is a better breakdown- “there is no prize to perfection” this means that perfection is not a prize, it’s actually just nothing because something implies there is conflict somewhere. “Only an end to pursuit” humanity is the pursuit, so to speak.
@@thecoldone-c6iwell, the show managed to explain it very literally and straight up - with the very dimension they're in. People there were subjected to a sort of perfection: they're immortal, free of all illneses (well, technically anyway), need no nutrients, have no inclination for conflicts of any kind, nor ambition to fulfill. As a small side effect of such perfection - they've ceased living, and now merely exist, eternally content, all of their pursuits ended.
Literally given us an illustration. So, yeah, sometimes the journey could simply be more important, than the destination.
Man i love bros being bros in every universe
Pretty sure Jayce stole credit for creating Blitzcrank from Vik, which caused him to constantly attack Jayce's workshops 😂😂
just dudes being dudes! bros being roommates!
@@jamesauruss Truly! Is it gay to transcend with your homie and say that you'll be together in every single universe smh
Dude became god just to realize it sucks
:D
No heimerdinger guitar solo
Shinji did that too 😅
@@FiatLux1Wow! Really?!
Heimerdingdong @@RralRonaldo
“Of the thousands of comrades and tens of thousands of enemies, only you were able to make me forget my dream.”
I like that Viktor doesn’t necessarily say he was wrong, he only states that perfection loses its luster once it’s obtained.
He DID end world suffering, solved every single problem. There’s just nothing to do afterward. No question to ask, nor an answer to pursue.
@@darkpain2452 it wasn't every timeline. The one Ekko traveled to is proof, though this is mostly because Jayce and Victor were out of the picture this time.
if you put someone in a room by themselves with a button that delivers an electric shock that physically hurts them and tell them that's what it does they'll still push it if you leave them alone along enough. People need something happening, boredom somehow is worse than pain.
@@zach7 yeah, lack of stimulation is one of the worst kinds of tortures a human can experience
Will always love viktor.
SPOILER
To me one of the greatest lines and a summation of over 2.000 years of philosophical, mythological and religious endeavour is Viktors line in the end.
"They want better lives. But emotion clashes with reason. Humanities self-corrupting contradiction."
Also very fitting as a reason for all the conflict we have in the world.
I love how they also processed it in the end.
But jayces resolution is even better: "There is beauty in imperfection."
Jayce was right except Viktor was dying from his imperfection
@@5minutesoflol35 There's beauty in death too?
@@cheesypizzajokesthere's no beauty in death. But if you really believe that there is, then just imagine if all the people you love dies before you. Your children, parents, wife/husband, family. If you can accept all those things to happen, then good for you.
@@cheesypizzajokes to jhin? yeah
And you are wrong.
The ultimate source of confrontation is resources and power. The world is material, all the wars are initiated by Materialistic causes, emotion is just part of Ideaological reasoning.
If you are blind to this you are doomed to perish in WW3.
It isn’t human to be perfect. The pursuit of “greater” is what gives purpose to most peoples lives.
What I liked about this is that they didn't frame this as romantic, but still something more powerful than love. The two were like brothers.
-Are they lovers ?
-Worse
platonic soulmates
This is what true unbridled, masculine friendship should look like. Think about how Achilles and Patroclus spoke of each other, they loved each other so deeply it became carnal, but the basis of that relationship was pure platonic love and genuine respect for each other. This is a slightly reduced form of that mostly because Jayce and Viktor aren’t fucking.
"I AM VICTOR, THE HEXTECH JESUS AND I'M BURDENED WITH GLORIOUS PURPOSE"🔥🔥
THE GLORIOUS EVOLUTION
@@sike672 Hold up. His writing is this fire?!
@@hellohooman8962YUP
Their friendship and story is so tragic especially when it was revealed that the only reason Jayce is alive in this timeline is because Viktor saved him when he was a kid so that what happened in the AU timeline doesn’t happen in the original.
There's a big difference between the person who gains power and says, "I would make everything good" and the one who says, "I would make everything perfect."
This line will always make me think, if ai answers everything what is left for humanity. Nothing
So basically, they’re the
“Are we friends in every universe?” Meme.
Cool.
THEYRE LITERALLY SOULMATES SHUT UP
Bros can still be soulmates, bros in every universe
"There is no perfection"-Kurotsuchi Mayuri
I remembered him when they started talking about evolution and perfection
Syazelporro may attain perfection, but his flaw is that the moment one attain their fullest potential. They can no longer progress any further.
Weird thing is, he did bring peace and unity to the world. But what's the point of that if people can't enjoy life (as I understood they became part of the hive mind /zombies)?
More like a forced peace that later turned into silence as that all of them lost their physical bodies and then it is implied that his minds also faded away eventually
In the end Victor was The Bromancer
He became like a god, mere perfection, yet always wanted his partner back.
I wish we saw how much the Arcane affected the world. Like did Viktor have it spread only throughout pullover and zaun? Or was he able to stop other world ending threats with it?
Likely not, good luck locking down a Darkin or overpowering a world rune with what it is essentially synthetic magic
Simply said I think Viktor did try to save the world and end the suffering but at the end all there is
just Nothingness which I believe is not what Viktor as a Human being expected
so I believe Viktor just made the whole world end their suffering
but realised its not Cool
Actually speaking VIKTOR is a God that we wanted ie, put an end to the suffering but realised the suffering the imperfection is what makes us a LIVING THING
so he just did what every GOD in our world is Doing NOT DOING ANYTHING JUST LETTING IT BE
@@Hellothere-ss4jqViktor is probably way stronger than you think, the authors of the series confirmed his use in future stories and said that since the beggining Viktor in the end would be so strong only himself(from the future) could stop him
@@pedroalmeida1456 within the confines of Arcane that it is true but if we zoom out to Runeterra as a whole it can't be true, on a world scale Viktor doesn't have the power to contend with world ending threats (Mord, Darkin, World Runes, Viego, the Void, pissed off Aurelion) and that's okay.
@@Hellothere-ss4jq considering Viktor traveled in time multiple times to be able to tell jayce how to stop him instead of just trying to find a darkin to kill him it is very possible those creatures were not enough
Bro had to make a shit ton of timeline just to tell himself how it sucks to be a god 😂
He gave Jayce every rune across multiple timeloops. The one that succeeded was the Acceleration rune, because thats the one that Ekko used as a basis for his Z Drive. Ekko is the real hero of Arcane!
I hate and love Viktor at the same time
I am with you 😵💫
Viktor wanted to help everyone, but he didn't realize that the price was too high.
Viktor and jinx straight up carried season 2 tbh
@@justahumanwithamask4089Ekko the Mvp
I just finished arcane and not once did i see Viktor as a villain, I love all the characters so much
The major point is there are no good guys in arcane. However it can be assumed no one is really bad either
Viktor: I became god but everyone died and left me alone
Raistlin Majere: First time?
omg, yes. but is he really raistlin, or is he fistandantilus?
imperfection has its own beauty only if one's self truly accepts it
no monster is more scarier than man
"There's just good friends" - someone, probably.
I think there aren’t other Viktors, more like the same Victor and Jayce in a time loop multiple times, starting with a different rune in each loop. Otherwise Viktor could just step in other Viktor’s position like Ekko did and stop his evolution plan.
their story is so beautiful
"I'm riot messiah, I'm arcane Jesus"
Absolute Cinema 🙌
After touch hex:
Jayce: 😡🤬😫😩😣😭
Ekko: 🥰😍😘😁😚💋♥️
Well, each of them got what they deserved.
And, ironically, they seem to have carried about the same amount of trauma out of it in the end...
Viktor became Arcane Jebus
just imagine how is that incredible all of that parallel spaces and he just searching that one Jayce in some space to stop what will happen in the new universe
Couldn't help but notice the similarities between this and madara
the voice performance, incredible
Maybe God and the Devil aren't enemies. Maybe humans trapped God in their ideas of Perfection, forced him to become stagnant and immobile, and the Devil keeps tearing those ideas down in order to set God Free.
What kind of Fire Writting Is that?! That would do for a Great worldbuilding concept ngl
I always liked to thought that devil is a prisoner of human idea of him and of BAD and EVIL, just like in the show Lucifer or in original comics Lucifer, he said something like "they always blame me and I am tired, I can't MAKE them to do evil, its their nature they cannot accept and stop blaming someone else for their sins"
Maybe both of them trapped in our ideas....
@@vadman5537 Our ideas of the Devil as a repulsive figure may be a result of the larger will at play, working to maintain the status quo. Thereby do we deny his efforts to free God from our grasp, and maintain our parasitic hold over God.
This would also explain why those who consume too much of God become stagnant themselves, as they consume too much to the point of accumulating within themselves the venom by which our collective will renders God helpless to escape.
And likewise, those amongst us who reject these practices, who do not partake in the sustainance of God's eternal imprisonment and adopt alternate or abstinence spiritualism are actually the ones who do God a kindness, even if in doing so they believe that they are rejecting God's, or the idea of God's, imposition within the framework of our lives. When in reality it is not God's interference with their independence, but their and our interference with God's independence, that is the real transgression. I wonder if the ostracization or outright harm that these "Godless" people face by many present forces is yet another aspect of the forces that seek to maintain the Prison that we have constructed for such a divine creature.
Maybe I should start my own religion.
this was just perfect
Wrong 🤷♂️
It's ironic to me that something like Arcane can deliver this message to such resounding acceptance, and yet modern culture acts so indignant at the idea that God would create an imperfect world.
Such inconsistency.
Agree!
So back in Arcane S1, there was a mage gave Jayce a crystal or something like that, can't remember now. You're saying that was Viktor from future or another timeline?
Exactly
But if Viktor never saved Jayce as kid and gave him a rune, he never would have encountered hex tech, Viktor would have just succumed to his cancer. How is the lifeless end of the earth the final result in every timeline? It only happens if Viktor actively intervenes in the past saving Jayce and thus allowing that end
I'm looking an answer for this, I refuse to believe Arcane has plot holes.
Jayce was designed before the release of Arcane. It wouldn’t make any sense to just kill the character before he grows up. I understand you point, but lore wise it wouldn’t make any sense. If it was just a random side character then leaving him would be the best action to take.
Is a paradox, like viktor creating viktor you could say. Why? Easy, Viktor say it. He wanted Jayce to show him, to save him,
Also there is always a way to change the future, that’s why Viktor tried so many times with different runes and as you saw it worked in this timeline.
The first time Jayce tried to convince Viktor is where Jayce and Viktor are in the clip. Jayce didn't persuade Viktor the first time. That version of Viktor saw out that version of things and tries to find someone to convince Viktor at the crucial moment to change course. That person ended up being the Jayce in the reality we have been following. I assume he tried other Jayce's and maybe even completely different people which I assume would have changed a whole load of things.
Not sure if anyone is a 40k fan but this is basically what happens to The Dark King and I'm all for it.
Yeah, it's a trope used in many forms of entertainment. And a great one.
Dude wanted his best mate to talk him out of winning because he got bored of it.
Korutsi Mayuri once said The one who pursuit perfection alway come empty handed..its same as victor regret
This series has almost no villains
glorious cinema
Who was the first Viktor, who started it all, and what Jayce`s role there?
Pay attention that the future Viktor saving Jayce is what led to Jayce's going after hextech causing all the mess.
That's a bootstrap paradox.
RIIIOOOOOOT!!!!
GIVE ME AN ANIMATED BILGEWATER SERIES, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!!
Only an end to pursuit
If only he listened to Singed about adapting to nature and not by superseded it
What is the name of that rune ? Is the rune of what ? Time ? Speed?
ACCELERATION. Hextgates and Z drive could only be created with that one.
Bruh Jayce could have ended it quick if i had just left viktor read his mind instead of blasting a hole in him.
blasting hole is cool
It was needed, else ambessa would be destroying everything and Zaun Piltover wouldn't have unified for a greater cause. We are talking that Viktor could see the best outcome
@TDGVgreat good point actually. Piltover was getting wrecked if zaun didn't come to help them last second they might have lose. But if Victor did decided to help... I mean if Victor make those white robotic puppet then those things will destroy ambessa army as long as the entire noxus didn't wage a full war on them.
@@wallnut7624 which noxus will if ambessa loses. She's a general and im pretty sure she would be able to convince noxus to invade PnZ considering the immense potential for weapons of war in there
@Name-me5su well no unlikely. Ambessa was losing her ground in noxus, she's literally in danger in her own nation.
Is anyone wondering how Viktor fixed his face in the future?
He broke up with Arcane
Ninguém é perfeito sem o mozão.
The glorious god
can someone explain this paradox ? i mean viktor gives jayce the stone to create hextech, but how did the first version that gave him the stone get to magic without jayce because jayce only did it wbecause he gave him the stone. so he went back in time to start something that already happend because he couldnt go back in time without jayce
By doing this, does victor knows about the bigger threats of Runeterra? Like mordekaider, watchers, the void, the ruined king etc?
Why remove the "dreamless solitude" part?
Every line is awsome in this scene, but I just wanted to go straightest to the point
question, if in this universe he evolved and managed to corrupt the city, how did he de evolve back to human form?
I thought the end of this series was so epic!
Hextech jesus
VikJayce the world's most dramatic partners
Viktor 😢
Wait so it was Viktor who saved Jayce as a kid, not Ryze?
yep, mindfu**
@schiftyJJ Yeah it was Viktor, and very much times in different universes
No more suffering is the price for perfection. Viktor just did it the wrong way. A body can evolve without using material stuff and magic.
But evolution is always dictated by outside influences: whether that be struggle, or desire. Which means as long as it is within the bounds of humanity, it can never be achieved.
ure messing up different concepts brother... our body can always evolve to adept our surroundings, but Viktor is referring to the core of our humanity emotions, those are the root of our greatest kindness as well as evil... and it is impossible to end suffering in this world as long as these emotions exist within us, hence there wont be perfection
There’s one problem how did he go back in time if the first jayce would have died before the events and thus not creating hextech
Jayce didn't exist so he discovered it somehow else. Then this apocalyptic void happened so he seeked out a way to stop his past self which ended up Jayce was the key
it feels like they have created a paradox
They say that hextech gets discovered in every timeline. Jayce just wasn't the one to do it in this Viktor's.
ITS FATE
Aww
In a few years Scientist will say they were best friends :D
Ah so they retconned ryze to be victor
I hate how Viktor dissuaded Viktor. Not Jayce.
jayce did too
@ naw it was Viktor seeing Viktor that made him stop.
Music ruined it
All of yall are forgetting the "Only You" part... 😌🥹😤