If you ever do another video like this one (very helpful), can you include the Retirement Visa? I'm a bit confused on that one. You have the best content on these topics. Thank you so much!
Ramze- this is the best most informative Visa video out there. Thank u very much for your transparency and candor. You did not touch upon the Long Term Visa. Maybe next video or in comments touch upon the LTV. Thank u
Best advice from me is to have an understanding of your budget, a bankaccount that still slowly grows when spending your budget, own little to no "things" that just become liabilities, and pay for memories, not possessions, try to make it as early as you can, you should be able to live of between a third to half of a lower to middle class Western lifestyle, enjoy freedom of choice and the liberty your passport allows you, just remember, wherever you go, corruption exists so keep to yourself and enjoy your experiences 😊
I bought the Elite visa last year (old price 600k THB for 5 years + optional 400K THB if I want to upgrade to 20 years) and If I had to buy it now, even at that same price, I would not. I would get the DTV hands down. Imagine someone who paid 900k for 5 years and a couple of weeks after they come up with the DTV for 5 years at 10k... The increase the price a lot, and at the same time they create this new DTV at a fraction of the cost. Nonsense. Btw, you forgot another interesting option for those who meet the requirements: the LTR visa for 10 years.
I'll be an elite nomad slow travelling, staying in comparable 4 to 5 star Airbnb, no electricity bills, water bills, wifi bills, no lock in contracts, till I can do no more and settle in Thailand because it has one of the best healthcare systems, pay as you go, pay for a carer if not with a permanent lady, one of the best infrastructure and transport systems in SE Asia, most interesting culture and beliefs, as in Buddhism, similar low-cost in other bordering countries. Now, of course, you need to have a grasp on your financial budget and your "urges" but your twilight years will be far better spend in Asia than in the f'd up Western countries, just mho 😊
I just want to correct you on one point, Ramze. After you have gotten your first 60 days (+30) visa exemption, you say you can do two more, BY LAW, and get almost 9 months out of it. There is no such law today, even the two land border rule was recently scrapped after the new 60 days visa exemption was introduced. Every time you enter, your Thai immigration officer can deny your entry. It lies solely to their discretion to do so, based on your passport history. And reports tell us they already are doing that to a much wider extent. There are plenty of reports now saying that after 180 days (back to back visa exemptions), that`s all you get at many border points. Even after your first one (90 days), and doing their first border run, some have been taken aside to be questioned, and told they need a proper visa next time, and barely went through. However, there are reports that doing a border run through the visa run companies, is going through and is accepted with very few issues. So I recommend using those, instead of doing those border runs alone, after your first 60 days (+30 days) visa exemption. You might get 9 months or more out of that. One more thing, the DTV is yet to see how easy or difficult it is to be extended. I have been in touch with immigration officers, and they say they will be pretty strict granting those extensions. The courses (if going that route) must be ongoing etc., and proof shown. So I think we will see some expats on DTV will be denied extensions as well. This won`t be as easy as many youtubers think. We will see when the extensions are due for the first, second, or third time etc. So with this in mind, the Privilege Visa (former Elite Visa) bronze doesn`t seem like a too bad option, for those who can afford it. Those are completely worry free, and a 5 year visa will grant you visa for 6 years, extending it just before it expires. And you don`t need to leave the country once, or attend to any classes of course.
@Dime333 You're wrong. I've been a visa agent for more than a decade in Bangkok and in Pattaya, and have of course frequently contact with the immigration officers there (I'm Thai). That's my job. Several youtubers know who I am, and maybe even someone in this comment section, who has benefited from my services.
@@sarlina1hello to the beautiful soul of Sarlina 🌸🙏 I am currently planning maximum next year two 60 days exemption tourist as a Canadian each with 30 day extension however staying under 180 days a calendar year in Thailand. I believe that is fine with Thailand Immigration. My visa dance for now is maintaining Canadian residence on a rolling 12 month in Canada 184 days interlaced with Thailand calendar year 180 days. So ... the dual dance of taxes and medical as Canada departure requires their tax laws be followed for closing my corporation. .... then the joy of long term to rent or buy in Thailand. Openly speaking. I have a feeling from the start of seeing your comments and the romantic in me still to ponder if future holds a possibility of courting you 😊 No worries, wishing all is well 🙏
@smileoften-ft3hq Hi Paul! Hope all is well 😊 Your plan should meet no difficulties, 179 days next year would be granted, unless your passport implies otherwise. If you are questioned, just be polite (which I certainly know you are 😊) and explain your situation. Canada has a slightly different DTA than the US, so for now, with the "new" tax law up in the air and really not landed yet, your plan is quite understandable. Regarding the last thing you mentioned, well that's the beauty of life, we never know what the future holds. Everything is possible 😊 For now I'm just too busy, having too many projects at hand. Nothing else is on my mind. Until next time our paths cross (I'm sure they will), take care, my good friend 😊🙏
@@sarlina1 thank you for visa affirmation 🙏 I never was good at staying still as sometimes the busyness can be very exhausting, but when I stop then it feels odd and unproductive and may dwell. So I get busy again. Keeping Sarlina in my prayers and wishing the best ❤🙏
A few years ago some high end condos were offering the elite visa as part of the sale. Technically “free” but I’m sure it was part of the built in price.
Thailand's visa options for long-term stays are certainly confusing & inconsistent. However, the Thai Privilege (or Thai Elite Visa) is probably the best (and easiest and fastest) option for those people who have the cash to burn, and want to minimize immigration hassles, during their stay. All of the other long-term visa options are peppered with bureaucratic paperwork, financial & other requirements and/or potential immigration landmines that can blow up in your face, even if you use an agent and esp. if you play in the legal gray areas and try to skirt around the rules. BTW - I think that Malaysia did more of a botch job with the changes to their MM2H program. Just my opinion.
@@LegalAutomation Unfortunately, "absolutely can be renewed" has not yet been proven. No one has tried to renew a DTV visa, after 180 days, nor attempted a border run after 30 days, because the program is too new. Also, no one knows for certain what Thai immigration may or may not require, in terms of paperwork & fees, in order to get the renewal. If the DTV follows the pattern of other visas, Thai immigration officers will have the final say on whether or not to grant the renewal - which means that the renewal "absolutely" can be denied. And, there are already some gray areas popping up with the DTV. For example, a number of people reportedly got the DTV under the pretense of dental appointments, and it would not be too surprising if Thai immigration denied renewals in some/many/most/all of these cases. It is also unclear, and will remain so for several years, whether or not you can apply for a new DTV, after the 5 year period has expired. It might follow the example of the education visa and be limited in the number of times you can apply for it. And, even if you can apply for a new DTV, it is unknown if you will be able to apply for a new DTV in Thailand. It is possible that you will be required to apply from a Thai embassy, in a neighbroring country, or perhaps even required to apply from your home country. Thai Privilege will likely remain the easiest/fastest route to staying in Thailand long-term, because the Thai Elite Visa is a simple "pay (a lot) for play" visa.
@@michaeltakayama8415 Agreed. I got a 20 year Elite a couple of years ago. It was a breeze to get, and the subsequent annual extension (2023) was easy - 15 minutes at my local Immigration office in Isaan. I don't have to show money in the bank or proof of my income or my Health Insurance, etc. For me it was worth it for the ease of application and subsequent peace of mind.
The elite visa value for retires can not be overstated Healthcare is affordable as a fee for service option in Thailand (the cost saving here makes the upfront cost worth paying) no income requirements and no investment requirements and when you consider you don't have to leave the country if you don't want to. This is a good option for seniors
I have the pensioner LTR visa (Long Term Resident). It is a 10 year visa. The visa fee is 50,000 baht ($1,450) for 10 years. To qualify you need to have a passive income of $80,000/yr. I qualified using my work pension. You do need health insurance or $100,000 in a bank account anywhere. No 90 day reporting though there is 1 year reporting. All the money you bring into Thailand is tax exempt.
So, the "new" Thai Elite is basically going back to a more expensive but less expensive option. I remember when the Thai Elite Visa was only 500K baht. 650K makes it still more expensive than the original price, but it's also less expensive than the ones now.
And the previous one had extra perks like airport transfers and other things. So that new 650k bahts visa is a bad deal indeed to get not much more than a DTV visa.
I thought DTV was $400 -ish . Why do you say it's $800 ? ( is that including the cost of the "classes" you take ? ). How do dental appointments work. I do need some work done that I can spread out over 8-ish appointments over the first 6 months. Lets say I get the DTV and I stay for 6 months. Next time I come back for another 6 months do I need another "reason" for the 6 month stay ? Or once you get the dtv it's good for 5 years and you only need to provide a "reason" the first time ? Anyone know ?
They cost different amounts based on which consulate you are using. I am unsure (I am not sure anyone does for sure at this point) how the classes will play out.
thanks. i inadvertently had to do same day border run..........immigration officer was not pleased. told me to go back to malaysia and don't show up for at least 2 days
Me too. From Phuket to Satun border. Was supposed to be a one-day border run acc to the agent. Instead, the Thai border officer sent me back to Malaysia. And believe me, you don't wanna stay there. Malaysia is beyond horrific.
Re: DTV and in particular retaining it after 6 months have passed, my understanding is that Immgration have avoided saying a word about how they will enforce things - this will all come to a head early next year. All the previous publicity has been from Foreign Ministry who are in charge of selling Thailand's image abroad, making it appear to be a welcoming place, and boosting tourism, particularly just before tourist high season starts, while Immigration are concerned with enforcement, refusing entry and kicking people out - essentially keeping Thailand for the Thais. I suspect that those who got their DTV on the basis of enrolling on a cooking course or paying for a mickey mouse gym membership, at the least, might face issues. Not to say that a visa agent won't resolve things using a brown envelope. Reply
@@alexfrog9191 Correct. There are a lot of questions about how strict immigration will enforce these extensions, and we don't have the answers to them yet. Don't take it for granted that this will be a walk in the park. For every extension, you need to qualify for the visa yet again, and will not get any freebies, I think.
I just renew my retirement visa at 18000 a baht after 5 years that still a fraction of the cost compared to the Elite visa, and with the Elite you still have to do 90 day reporting i believe.
@@elio271158 Retirement visa, or extension, is still the best option for people above 50 years old, in my opinion. It's also clearly the most used and popular one.
@Re3iRtH Every time you enter Thailand, it qualifies as one report. So if you travel frequently, you have no reporting to do. That goes for all visas. You only report if you stay more than 90 consecutive days in Thailand. There is also a small grace period, if you plan to leave close to that 90 days 👍
What if they reject entry after 180 days on DTV? Do you personally know anybody that obtained this visa? It doesn't look very secure for long term because you are forced out of the country twice a year..
You’re not forced according to what I’ve heard and read. It’s supposed to be renewable once in country. But you’re right in that it’s still new and we don’t know.
Like most Asian countries if you want to get something done as a foreigner you hire a fixer that’s not implying illegal it just means a fixer knows the system and will get things done.
I'm have this fear that if I live in Thailand and have all my stuff in a rented condo, then make a border run, I might get denied entry, then lose all my stuff. Is this a risk? assuming you are a lawful person with a clean criminal background.
While technically possible, they usually warn you once and let you in or maybe a little "tea money" as i is called here makes the problem go away. Also, using an agent for a border run makes 99% of the problems go away.
Just a small point, but a scam is when you are promised something in exchange for money and the person doesn't deliver the item or service as described. Thailand Privilege (was Elite) do deliver what they promise, so it isn't a scam. Whether it is value for money is perhaps the more valid question. I have a 20 year Elite Visa (pre-price increase) and I'm happy with it, because I do not intend to leave Thailand, and it gives me peace of mind for my future. Whether anyone else would be happy with one at the current prices is up to them and their priorities. What I would advise anyone considering long-time living in Thailand and putting down roots, is to carefully review your visa options in respect to your situation and plans for the future. No one visa is the best for everyone.
How would you have felt if you had paid 900K baht $26K USD a year ago and a few months later they announce an easy DTV for a few hundred dollars for the same 5 years? I know a lot of people that felt scammed. I do see your point though.
@@RamzeTravels No good for me as I am retired, married to a Thai lady and have no interest in taking a course - should there even be one out here in rural Isaan. And it is only 5 years - I'm planning on being here until they nail down the lid and chuck me on the fire! The DTV requires too much messing about when compared with what I did for my 20-year Elite Superiority Extension and what I have to do to stay here. My annual extension takes a 15 minutes wait while the lovely people at my local Immigration office (40 minute drive) sort it out and I do my 90-day reports online. Not upset at all by the introduction of the DTV - it is of no use to me, but I can see it being attractive to others. As I said initially: anyone intending to set down roots - do careful research on which visa is best for you.
$850 for a 5 year visa is a bargain. If you do the $200/mo. wink wink Visas that you mentioned. That is still $12,000 over the course of 5 years. Do the math.
I would never ever pay an entrance fee that high. Becuase that's all it is. If they had a residency by investment like most developing nations do. i would. I give you , you give me. I wants rights and benefits when i contribute to a nation. i need to feel connected to bring something more to the table. This is just being a glorified overpaying tourist. Nah It's a scam.
I love the casual way of giving great info!
If you ever do another video like this one (very helpful), can you include the Retirement Visa? I'm a bit confused on that one. You have the best content on these topics. Thank you so much!
Can I answer Non O for retirement questions?
Ramze- this is the best most informative Visa video out there. Thank u very much for your transparency and candor. You did not touch upon the Long Term Visa. Maybe next video or in comments touch upon the LTV. Thank u
Best advice from me is to have an understanding of your budget, a bankaccount that still slowly grows when spending your budget, own little to no "things" that just become liabilities, and pay for memories, not possessions, try to make it as early as you can, you should be able to live of between a third to half of a lower to middle class Western lifestyle, enjoy freedom of choice and the liberty your passport allows you, just remember, wherever you go, corruption exists so keep to yourself and enjoy your experiences 😊
I bought the Elite visa last year (old price 600k THB for 5 years + optional 400K THB if I want to upgrade to 20 years) and If I had to buy it now, even at that same price, I would not. I would get the DTV hands down.
Imagine someone who paid 900k for 5 years and a couple of weeks after they come up with the DTV for 5 years at 10k... The increase the price a lot, and at the same time they create this new DTV at a fraction of the cost. Nonsense.
Btw, you forgot another interesting option for those who meet the requirements: the LTR visa for 10 years.
I would buy the elite 20 year visa today if they just dropped the price back to 1m baht.
The truth is that you wouldn’t.
I did. Best money spent.
Thumbs up 👍 Ramze
I'll be an elite nomad slow travelling, staying in comparable 4 to 5 star Airbnb, no electricity bills, water bills, wifi bills, no lock in contracts, till I can do no more and settle in Thailand because it has one of the best healthcare systems, pay as you go, pay for a carer if not with a permanent lady, one of the best infrastructure and transport systems in SE Asia, most interesting culture and beliefs, as in Buddhism, similar low-cost in other bordering countries. Now, of course, you need to have a grasp on your financial budget and your "urges" but your twilight years will be far better spend in Asia than in the f'd up Western countries, just mho 😊
They are as buddhist as i am Elvis.
I just want to correct you on one point, Ramze. After you have gotten your first 60 days (+30) visa exemption, you say you can do two more, BY LAW, and get almost 9 months out of it. There is no such law today, even the two land border rule was recently scrapped after the new 60 days visa exemption was introduced. Every time you enter, your Thai immigration officer can deny your entry. It lies solely to their discretion to do so, based on your passport history. And reports tell us they already are doing that to a much wider extent. There are plenty of reports now saying that after 180 days (back to back visa exemptions), that`s all you get at many border points. Even after your first one (90 days), and doing their first border run, some have been taken aside to be questioned, and told they need a proper visa next time, and barely went through.
However, there are reports that doing a border run through the visa run companies, is going through and is accepted with very few issues. So I recommend using those, instead of doing those border runs alone, after your first 60 days (+30 days) visa exemption. You might get 9 months or more out of that.
One more thing, the DTV is yet to see how easy or difficult it is to be extended. I have been in touch with immigration officers, and they say they will be pretty strict granting those extensions. The courses (if going that route) must be ongoing etc., and proof shown. So I think we will see some expats on DTV will be denied extensions as well. This won`t be as easy as many youtubers think. We will see when the extensions are due for the first, second, or third time etc.
So with this in mind, the Privilege Visa (former Elite Visa) bronze doesn`t seem like a too bad option, for those who can afford it. Those are completely worry free, and a 5 year visa will grant you visa for 6 years, extending it just before it expires. And you don`t need to leave the country once, or attend to any classes of course.
“I have been in touch with immigration officers”. Lmao. Give me a break. Just regurgitating info you’re reading online and getting from RUclips.
@Dime333 You're wrong. I've been a visa agent for more than a decade in Bangkok and in Pattaya, and have of course frequently contact with the immigration officers there (I'm Thai). That's my job. Several youtubers know who I am, and maybe even someone in this comment section, who has benefited from my services.
@@sarlina1hello to the beautiful soul of Sarlina 🌸🙏
I am currently planning maximum next year two 60 days exemption tourist as a Canadian each with 30 day extension however staying under 180 days a calendar year in Thailand. I believe that is fine with Thailand Immigration.
My visa dance for now is maintaining Canadian residence on a rolling 12 month in Canada 184 days interlaced with Thailand calendar year 180 days. So ... the dual dance of taxes and medical as Canada departure requires their tax laws be followed for closing my corporation.
.... then the joy of long term to rent or buy in Thailand.
Openly speaking. I have a feeling from the start of seeing your comments and the romantic in me still to ponder if future holds a possibility of courting you 😊
No worries, wishing all is well 🙏
@smileoften-ft3hq Hi Paul! Hope all is well 😊 Your plan should meet no difficulties, 179 days next year would be granted, unless your passport implies otherwise. If you are questioned, just be polite (which I certainly know you are 😊) and explain your situation. Canada has a slightly different DTA than the US, so for now, with the "new" tax law up in the air and really not landed yet, your plan is quite understandable.
Regarding the last thing you mentioned, well that's the beauty of life, we never know what the future holds. Everything is possible 😊 For now I'm just too busy, having too many projects at hand. Nothing else is on my mind. Until next time our paths cross (I'm sure they will), take care, my good friend 😊🙏
@@sarlina1 thank you for visa affirmation 🙏
I never was good at staying still as sometimes the busyness can be very exhausting, but when I stop then it feels odd and unproductive and may dwell. So I get busy again.
Keeping Sarlina in my prayers and wishing the best ❤🙏
A few years ago some high end condos were offering the elite visa as part of the sale. Technically “free” but I’m sure it was part of the built in price.
Now a “free” DTV has become the new dangling carrot advertised by many real estate companies. Lmao.
Correct…. Just do 60 days add 30 twice per year …. That’s 180 days …. He is correct to many departments to worry about just live and enjoy
Good information.. gonna get that DTV soon!
Thailand's visa options for long-term stays are certainly confusing & inconsistent.
However, the Thai Privilege (or Thai Elite Visa) is probably the best (and easiest and fastest) option for those people who have the cash to burn, and want to minimize immigration hassles, during their stay. All of the other long-term visa options are peppered with bureaucratic paperwork, financial & other requirements and/or potential immigration landmines that can blow up in your face, even if you use an agent and esp. if you play in the legal gray areas and try to skirt around the rules.
BTW - I think that Malaysia did more of a botch job with the changes to their MM2H program. Just my opinion.
The thing is though, the DTV visa isn't a "gray" area. It's a 6 month visa that can absolutely can be renewed.
@@LegalAutomation Unfortunately, "absolutely can be renewed" has not yet been proven. No one has tried to renew a DTV visa, after 180 days, nor attempted a border run after 30 days, because the program is too new.
Also, no one knows for certain what Thai immigration may or may not require, in terms of paperwork & fees, in order to get the renewal. If the DTV follows the pattern of other visas, Thai immigration officers will have the final say on whether or not to grant the renewal - which means that the renewal "absolutely" can be denied.
And, there are already some gray areas popping up with the DTV. For example, a number of people reportedly got the DTV under the pretense of dental appointments, and it would not be too surprising if Thai immigration denied renewals in some/many/most/all of these cases.
It is also unclear, and will remain so for several years, whether or not you can apply for a new DTV, after the 5 year period has expired. It might follow the example of the education visa and be limited in the number of times you can apply for it.
And, even if you can apply for a new DTV, it is unknown if you will be able to apply for a new DTV in Thailand. It is possible that you will be required to apply from a Thai embassy, in a neighbroring country, or perhaps even required to apply from your home country.
Thai Privilege will likely remain the easiest/fastest route to staying in Thailand long-term, because the Thai Elite Visa is a simple "pay (a lot) for play" visa.
@@michaeltakayama8415 Agreed. I got a 20 year Elite a couple of years ago. It was a breeze to get, and the subsequent annual extension (2023) was easy - 15 minutes at my local Immigration office in Isaan. I don't have to show money in the bank or proof of my income or my Health Insurance, etc. For me it was worth it for the ease of application and subsequent peace of mind.
@@michaeltakayama8415good to see comments about what is talk and what has come into legislation
The elite visa value for retires can not be overstated Healthcare is affordable as a fee for service option in Thailand (the cost saving here makes the upfront cost worth paying) no income requirements and no investment requirements and when you consider you don't have to leave the country if you don't want to. This is a good option for seniors
I got the elite visa three years ago. It’s OK yes you do get a limousine back-and-forth expedite custom, but it’s too expensive. lol
Thanks for the info.
Hey, so what's the Thai tax deal if you're there for more than 180 days?
No actual laws have changed yet. It’s still undermined how or if they will implement it.
I have the pensioner LTR visa (Long Term Resident). It is a 10 year visa. The visa fee is 50,000 baht ($1,450) for 10 years. To qualify you need to have a passive income of $80,000/yr. I qualified using my work pension. You do need health insurance or $100,000 in a bank account anywhere. No 90 day reporting though there is 1 year reporting. All the money you bring into Thailand is tax exempt.
The best visa to get if one qualifies for sure.
I pay 17,000b a year and have a 12 month retirement visa,no reporting no leaving the country.
So, the "new" Thai Elite is basically going back to a more expensive but less expensive option. I remember when the Thai Elite Visa was only 500K baht. 650K makes it still more expensive than the original price, but it's also less expensive than the ones now.
And the previous one had extra perks like airport transfers and other things. So that new 650k bahts visa is a bad deal indeed to get not much more than a DTV visa.
Reminds me of a Mitch Hedberg joke: "I used to drink a lot. I still do, but I used to also." 😁
I thought DTV was $400 -ish . Why do you say it's $800 ? ( is that including the cost of the "classes" you take ? ).
How do dental appointments work. I do need some work done that I can spread out over 8-ish appointments over the first 6 months. Lets say I get the DTV and I stay for 6 months. Next time I come back for another 6 months do I need another "reason" for the 6 month stay ? Or once you get the dtv it's good for 5 years and you only need to provide a "reason" the first time ? Anyone know ?
They cost different amounts based on which consulate you are using. I am unsure (I am not sure anyone does for sure at this point) how the classes will play out.
I am thinking of doing the DTV but I naturally travel internationally every 60 days or so. Would I still have to do quarterly reporting?
90 day reporting only applies when you are physically in Thailand for 90 consecutive days.
@RamzeTravels Then it's a no brainer!
thanks. i inadvertently had to do same day border run..........immigration officer was not pleased. told me to go back to malaysia and don't show up for at least 2 days
Me too. From Phuket to Satun border. Was supposed to be a one-day border run acc to the agent. Instead, the Thai border officer sent me back to Malaysia. And believe me, you don't wanna stay there. Malaysia is beyond horrific.
@@saddq1 Speak for yourself. I had a great time in Kuala Lumpur.
@@saddq1Lmao. Malaysia is far from "horrific". Put on your big boy pants.
Re: DTV and in particular retaining it after 6 months have passed, my understanding is that Immgration have avoided saying a word about how they will enforce things - this will all come to a head early next year. All the previous publicity has been from Foreign Ministry who are in charge of selling Thailand's image abroad, making it appear to be a welcoming place, and boosting tourism, particularly just before tourist high season starts, while Immigration are concerned with enforcement, refusing entry and kicking people out - essentially keeping Thailand for the Thais. I suspect that those who got their DTV on the basis of enrolling on a cooking course or paying for a mickey mouse gym membership, at the least, might face issues. Not to say that a visa agent won't resolve things using a brown envelope.
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@@alexfrog9191 Correct. There are a lot of questions about how strict immigration will enforce these extensions, and we don't have the answers to them yet. Don't take it for granted that this will be a walk in the park. For every extension, you need to qualify for the visa yet again, and will not get any freebies, I think.
I just renew my retirement visa at 18000 a baht after 5 years that still a fraction of the cost compared to the Elite visa, and with the Elite you still have to do 90 day reporting i believe.
@@elio271158 Retirement visa, or extension, is still the best option for people above 50 years old, in my opinion. It's also clearly the most used and popular one.
I am thinking of doing the DTV but I naturally travel internationally every 60 days or so. Would I still have to do quarterly reporting?
@Re3iRtH Every time you enter Thailand, it qualifies as one report. So if you travel frequently, you have no reporting to do. That goes for all visas. You only report if you stay more than 90 consecutive days in Thailand. There is also a small grace period, if you plan to leave close to that 90 days 👍
What if they reject entry after 180 days on DTV? Do you personally know anybody that obtained this visa? It doesn't look very secure for long term because you are forced out of the country twice a year..
You’re not forced according to what I’ve heard and read. It’s supposed to be renewable once in country. But you’re right in that it’s still new and we don’t know.
The Thai government is very clever. They realize tourism account for 20% of their GDP and 25% of their employment. Cambodia has something similar.
Like most Asian countries if you want to get something done as a foreigner you hire a fixer that’s not implying illegal it just means a fixer knows the system and will get things done.
Price drop? Up untill last year you could buy a 20 year vip visa for 1 million baht
Yeah it’s only a price drop from the new price tiers they went to a year ago.
Way way too expensive.
If it had a tax exemption it would be worth it maybe.
I'm have this fear that if I live in Thailand and have all my stuff in a rented condo, then make a border run, I might get denied entry, then lose all my stuff. Is this a risk? assuming you are a lawful person with a clean criminal background.
While technically possible, they usually warn you once and let you in or maybe a little "tea money" as i is called here makes the problem go away. Also, using an agent for a border run makes 99% of the problems go away.
Ramze ON point 👉
DTV stay 4 months or less. They need a 90 day instead of a 60 day entry
Thank you Sir for vid 🤩👍🏻💯
I see so many whiners and complainers about paying a small fee to have it done for you 😂😂
People have no value of their time sometimes. It is relative to how much you know and how much you have to spend though. 🤷
@ yes Sir 👍🏻
Elite 500k
Elite 600k
Elite 900k
DTV 10k
Elite 650k
😂🤡
I would NEVER want a visa called "Elite" 🤣.
It is not called Elite anymore. The new name is "Thailand Privilege". Elite visa is just how everybody keeps calling it.
That's why they've changed the name to Privilege
@jiffers5191 Not much better 🤣. +1
Just a small point, but a scam is when you are promised something in exchange for money and the person doesn't deliver the item or service as described.
Thailand Privilege (was Elite) do deliver what they promise, so it isn't a scam. Whether it is value for money is perhaps the more valid question.
I have a 20 year Elite Visa (pre-price increase) and I'm happy with it, because I do not intend to leave Thailand, and it gives me peace of mind for my future. Whether anyone else would be happy with one at the current prices is up to them and their priorities.
What I would advise anyone considering long-time living in Thailand and putting down roots, is to carefully review your visa options in respect to your situation and plans for the future.
No one visa is the best for everyone.
How would you have felt if you had paid 900K baht $26K USD a year ago and a few months later they announce an easy DTV for a few hundred dollars for the same 5 years? I know a lot of people that felt scammed. I do see your point though.
@@RamzeTravels No good for me as I am retired, married to a Thai lady and have no interest in taking a course - should there even be one out here in rural Isaan. And it is only 5 years - I'm planning on being here until they nail down the lid and chuck me on the fire!
The DTV requires too much messing about when compared with what I did for my 20-year Elite Superiority Extension and what I have to do to stay here. My annual extension takes a 15 minutes wait while the lovely people at my local Immigration office (40 minute drive) sort it out and I do my 90-day reports online.
Not upset at all by the introduction of the DTV - it is of no use to me, but I can see it being attractive to others. As I said initially: anyone intending to set down roots - do careful research on which visa is best for you.
Aren't all these new visas (DTV, Bronze privilege, etc.) just a double trap: financial and double taxation for people staying more than 180 days?????
$850 for a 5 year visa is a bargain.
If you do the $200/mo. wink wink Visas that you mentioned. That is still $12,000 over the course of 5 years. Do the math.
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GO the retirement visa if you can all the way to the moon
You know they can get you on defemation grounds for this mate.
I would never ever pay an entrance fee that high. Becuase that's all it is. If they had a residency by investment like most developing nations do. i would. I give you , you give me. I wants rights and benefits when i contribute to a nation. i need to feel connected to bring something more to the table. This is just being a glorified overpaying tourist. Nah It's a scam.