Opening Remarks - Christian Support for the State of Israel: Is It Biblical? (1/4)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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    Discover the historical roots and far-reaching influence of Christian Zionism; explore with biblical scholars fundamental errors in the use of scripture to support this doctrine.
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  • @tomafaur9932
    @tomafaur9932 10 месяцев назад +1

    Is Israel one Israel? Or two Israel.Is The Church one Church ? Is God One ? Is The Church and Israel One and The Same Thank you Tom

    • @larrybedouin2921
      @larrybedouin2921 10 месяцев назад

      Modern day Israel is a secular state, not a kingdom governed by the law of God, neither were they gathered from out of the nations by God.
      It's from the machinations of men, who think to usurp eternal kingdom promises (wherein dwelleth righteousness) to God's saints, here in this temporal age.
      This is a spurious regathering for the purpose of (Jesuit counter reformation) deception.
      Who are the Israel of God?
      There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
      And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. {Galatians 3:28-29}
      Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
      That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
      BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ*
      For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
      Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN, so making peace;
      And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby*
      And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
      For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
      Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God;
      [The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun]
      {Ephesians 2:11-19}
      Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
      But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
      {Acts 10:34-35}
      Again...
      But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
      For there is no respect of persons with God.
      {Romans 2:10-11}
      Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel:
      *Neither because they are the seed of Abraham* are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
      That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but *the children of the promise* are counted for the seed.
      {Romans 9:6-8}
      Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
      But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
      {Galatians 4:28-29}
      For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
      And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and
      upon *the Israel of God*
      {Galatians 6:15-16}
      And they [the Jew] also, *if they abide not still in unbelief* shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in *again*
      {Romans 11:23}
      For ye are all the children of God *by faith in Christ Jesus*
      For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
      {Galatians 3:26-27}

  • @andreduncan4224
    @andreduncan4224 10 месяцев назад

    Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
    Unless Yahova watches the city.

  • @ronin8898
    @ronin8898 2 года назад +7

    Support for Israel for people of Israel or Support for any other people of the world is a Christian ethic "love your neighbor ". However, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (God Incarnate) never taught a blind devotion to the political state of Israel neither did the 12. Additionally, the church fathers affirmed this teaching. So we can accept church doctrine on this matter which is has been the norm for 1900 years. It is only protestant evangelicals who have this modern biblical interpretation. This version was created approximately 150 years ago by John Nelson Darby and Cyril Scofield.

    • @jadwigawadolowska366
      @jadwigawadolowska366 10 месяцев назад

      It is even older concept and goes back to Napoleon.

    • @georgekerry6530
      @georgekerry6530 10 месяцев назад

      You absolutely nailed it. The words Jew & Gentile were never in the original Hebrew or Greek translations, the word was Judean/Judahite & Nations, these words (and others) were mistranslated by the paid translators during AD. God did preserve His original Word inspired by His original authors. Highly likely corrupted for Political reasons & control over the people. The Word 'Hell' too is not in the original Hebrew & Greek. God's wrath is allowing you 'reap what you sow', this you can plainly see with your own eyes. Reap what you sow continues after the second resurrection after the 'great white throne judgement'.
      Believe & those in Christ rise at the first resurrection.

    • @montsec3445
      @montsec3445 6 месяцев назад

      You are very brave

  • @willielee5253
    @willielee5253 Год назад

    ❤❤❤ Romans 15:27 ❤❤❤

    • @ruthmayforth5933
      @ruthmayforth5933 10 месяцев назад

      That applies to Jewish BELIEVERS, ie especially to the Jewish apostles,missionaries, and evangelists that had spiritually ministered to them

    • @willielee5253
      @willielee5253 10 месяцев назад

      @ruthmayforth5933 Romans 15:26.
      I just reviewed Michael Brown " Is God a Zionist? " a 5min. clip and in both accounts I agree.
      Thanks for your reply 🙏👑🙏