Looks like the video crossed my anticipated 600 views - thrilled that people are finding this. Hopefully it speaks to you and inspires you to create. Artistry nourishes the soul in a way that wealth never can, so don't let the dollar drive your creative impulses.
"A paradoxical fear as an artist is the impermanent nature of expression requiring it to be made permanent in order for it to be anything other than an idea" God you have managed to put into words the sentence that flies about my head every waking moment of my life. I have daydreams of oil paintings I know are breathtaking and profound and yet ive never much as touched oil paint before. It is a wake up call that action and learning is necessary and mandatory in the artistic experience because creating passively with no manifestation is so easy.
I don't know what caused this to pop up on my homefeed, but I'm thankful it did. This was a fantastic video by you that I hope will be able to reach more people as it did me
thank you for researching this, thinking about this, scripting this, recording this, editing this, polishing this, and posting this. even if you'll probably never get paid for, "what is due to you," i need you to know that this genuinely made a lot of people learn and think, and that's really hard to do these days, let alone keeping all of this only 13 minutes long. it's pretty obvious you were trying to help people, so congrats for doing that. thanking you here while this is still a hidden gem. :)
idk why this only has like 300 likes.. the video really moved me because I was struggling with imposter syndrome and what to do with my career. im graduating this year so the clock is ticking for me. So the thing u said about art just becoming something to fund your lifestyle instead of it staying a hobby changed my perspective a little... I was thinking about tattooing because I would be creating for someone else and the feeling I get from making something for someone else is a different drive than my own. so ur video kind of like helped me rationalize if I should take the leap and do it instead of going into fuckass medicine.
Don’t go into medicine unless you really love it; I promise. Your youth is for screwing up artistically; because unlike other mediums, art is something that gets better as you age.
I’ve always thought this way and wondered whether other artists feel the same way too. How art has turned into content tailored to fit trends and algorithms you can no longer be just an artist but also a content creator who also knows how to market themselves/ their art it’s so frustrating! I love art I love making art and creating and I’ve always loved it and wanted to connect with others solely based on my art but with all these complications it can really make sharing art daunting and draining. It’s definitely a double edged sword don’t get my wrong I don’t think it’s 100% I’m just expressing my frustration. And I really loved this video and how explained each point perfectly, hope it reaches more people!
As someone trying to start up a video essay channel, I found this incredibly inspiring. The depth, editing, and insight in your video blew me away, and honestly, I can’t think of anything to add that hasn’t already been said in the comments. Please keep doing what you’re doing-you’re seriously underrated, and I really do believe that your work is one of a kind. 🙏🙏
You popped in my head last week when the horror short film contest was announced. Solid video & message, I often have to remind myself that the algorithm doesn’t (and shouldn’t) dictate the value of my art
ive met too many people in online writing groups that tried to hard to be a people pleaser type and never understood when I told them to write what they liked not what others want. Most drafts read very generic or with huge thematic issues like a heroic character supposed to be righteous but kills so easily and unaware. And thats whats wrong with most artists, they lack awareness and don't know themselves, and hence, don't know their voice for art. Unfortunately, a lot of artist will die in obscurity, and a majority won't be anything inspiring, just slop that should've died in obscurity. I encourage others to find a new career path if they're too stubborn to see their own obscurity
There’s a quote I love from Rick Rubin’s book “The Creative Act”: “You can also pursue an unrelated career that provides security while keeping art as a hobby, a hobby that’s the most important thing in your life. All paths are of equal merit.”
Ive been making music since i was 17. I just turned 23 and Im still making music. Not because ive been successful in making something that people would pay to listen to, but because its what I love to do. I work a full time job to pay the bills and i wouldnt say that i hate it, but i certainly dont love it. However, I love that I have a job that can support this creative journey that I continue to move through
You my good sir are a fabulous director. This video beautifully reflected the many hours of my contemplative thinking regarding the culture surrounding art and my place as an artist.
What the fuck. Brilliant video with fantastic production value and im honestly shocked its only got 2k views right now and comes from a relatively small channel. Keep up the wonderful work no matter what. It will pay off
Hey, Zach. First time viewer. Great job on this video, man. Really was an inspiring speech i wish i had heard years ago. Thanks from a fellow creator, I'm off to write, haha.
It happens with all mediums. For example, let's say with paintings, even when someone is not promoting a specific piece, when analyzing it and appreciating it, the main value a lot of people use is money. This painting is important because it costs X amount of dollars. Not the meaning, not the sensation it conveys, but the price tag.
If paintings were rated off of the experience of interacting with them, the little illustrations kids make that are pinned to the fridge with magnets would probably take top spot
I have a project in my mind. It's barely a project, moreso an assortment of setting details and characters. This exact video gave me that push needed for me to actually start planning everything out. Thank you
i was an artist, but it's actually hard to call me one, because i never had an imagination and creative mind, i was a tool, i was able only to draw and not to create, to draw the things without any meaning (such as fan-arts of fandoms or some basic and mediocre things), so, eventually i stopped drawing because i was unable to understand what i'm doing this for, and my nihilism only made it worse, i'm just unable to find any motivation to start anything because i'm unable to understand WHY I SHOULD do this in the first place, i will die, joy is not lasting forever, i'm not putting anything into my creations because my "desire" to create something is caused by the pressure from not being as good as someone else in this world or not being good at least at something, not because i actually WANT to do this, and all this fades away because every one of them is just a desire to be happy, but i can't get a happiness from any of it, they will not save me from death, everything i'm spending my life on will be lost, the world itself will die one day and everything that was ever created would cease to exist, all this struggles for nothing. I'm genuinely amazed by the artists and wish i was one of them, but unfortunately i wasn't born with this passion nor mentality. I'm not able to see a meaning in the art anymore, everything was downgraded into a simple fuel for my hedonism and escapism.
This video took me months to make for that reason alone. Allow yourself to procrastinate but don’t allow yourself to do nothing. Sometimes you need that blank space for the best ideas to rise to the top
I would not be surprised at all that if in 50 years or so the vacuous nature of AI created art will be fully embraced with the same emotional and intellectual investment that we place in human created/crafted art now; it seems that it may already be happening. As I understand it, AI is marketed as a means to allow us all to be more creative. The quantity of creativity will go through the roof, the qualitative level of all of that creativity itself will become quite mediocre and unless that creativity has some utilitarian purpose behind it, such as a better mousetrap, artistic creativity could well be relegated to meaningless. That would suck. The plus to being a filmmaker or musician is potential royalties, whereas you can only sell a painting once. One last thing; as someone who did not make the 600 cut seeing this video was still enjoyable. Thumb up!
I don’t know about that, personally it would take a substantial change in both my ethical and artistic sensibilities before I consider generative AI a genuine form of art, because as it stands, it’s just math that presents itself as an imitation of artistry
@@ZachDoumit That's the point, AI will become so prevalent (not my conclusion) in every aspect of the creative process that creativity will become meaningless. You know what it means and takes to formulate an idea, write a script, put the pieces in place and then go to work to see that vision through; you as the artist become deeply invested in the project. In the next 15 or so years if you were using AI you could easily knock a video like this one out in an hour or less. All it would take is one or two descriptive sentences and AI would do the rest. And I can guarantee the depth that all your efforts would have normally taken will no longer play into the final piece which though just as polished would greatly suffer. There are a lot of intangibles in creating art which will evaporate. Look at it as a spectrum with this video as an example. You can avoid using AI all together and come up with a fine finished piece of work. Or you can use AI to just write the script with a bit of guidance or let AI write the whole script. In the same way AI can do the story board, the graphics, images, sound... with you as the human mind behind it guiding the process or just allowing AI to do it all. Thousands of different decisions you put into this one piece could be done by AI, all you would need to do is make the request and shop for what fits then put your stamp on it. The whole process could be done anywhere from 0% AI to 99%. Whether it's music, film, graphic design, sculpture, etc., at some point the respective target audiences are going to assume AI played a role in the finished product, and if history is any indication the ease of production combined with the market demands will guarantee (IMO) that AI will only grow in use and appreciation for creativity/originality will change accordingly. It's a core element of human nature that our culture itself will shift with the changing technology. (I'm taking the long perspective here. I started out in film school when the CD was still in the early development stages. Cutting edge tech meant connecting an Apple Computer to an electric organ keyboard.)
@@ZachDoumit Some artists like Edward Skeletrix are already using AI as an aesthetic, and it actually looks good, ofcourse that's completely different to just purely using AI as a way to substitute from real paintings/animations... etc. Skeletrix more so plays with the demented and grotesque look of early generative AI content, to make disturbing and surreal worlds that he combines with his music. Anyway, if AI becomes big enough in the future that it's seen as a dominant art form, there will always be a counter movement, trying to get back to basics, as always happens in moments like this that shake up the art world.
AI art is valid in the way that action-paintings are valid art. The way both work is by chance and the artist is decididing the setup and chosing which work the artist wants to be associated as his art is the key factor.
@@ZachDoumit Neither is cutting a hole into a can of paint and let it dangle over a canvas, if someone would follow the logic in your argument? I would advocate it is. Art history says that a drip painting (Edit: and more so "Schüttbilder" from Hermann Nitsch) is art, too. Typing the words for the prompt is already choosing and eliminating, which is an artistic expression, like choosing the color of the paint, the thickness of the hole or the swing you give it. Someone choosing the words sunflower, table, Stilleben is an artistic expression in the same way. Please elaborate on your statement, I´m really into this topic out of curiosity.
@@ZachDoumit Does your statement take into consideration that subjectively you are doing the prompting with an artistic mindest to create (art)? Putting words on a page isn´t either and yet it is the way of writing literature. Why is me typing this comment is not artistic (leaving the "erweiterter Künstlerbegriff" from Joseph Beuys out of the picture) and why should´nt it be art if my way of writing gets a picture, which is art by definition.
If this is about what I think it is, I’m very happy Edit: still happy with video, but I thought it was going to be about art historians just straight up making shit up about old paintings. Hate when they do that.
when you asked the audience the question about pretentiousness it really made me think for some reason. at the end i came to a conclusion that the people's opinion isn't that important. a pretentious person is not who is very smart or distant, but who is rude to everyone and considers himself to be higher than everyone. if you're a normal human being and you just know a lot of what people considered pretentious are interested in you're fine
@@Hjea Art is an economic activity, I’ve invested $10,000 to mount this show and the gallery is suffering from low sales because of the current financial climate. The connection of art and money is inextricable, no money - no art.
That's why I'm practicing to create with AI tools now, honing my taste and vision. Everyone can do this now. Yea sure it's not perfect, but that's wasn't really the point is it
What would you say to someone who claims AI can create art because the process of creation-whether from perspective or from algorithm-doesn't necessarily dictate whether the audience experiences it as art or not? (ongoing argument with a friend lol)
The part of the argument doing the heavy lifting here is the “process of creation” part. When a human creates art, the process of creation is both steered by and filtered through their taste, perspective, fears, aspirations - every element that comprises the human experience. A piece of AI art doesn’t have a process of creation, it has a process of amalgamation where the sole goal is to generate what it predicts to be the best approximation of what you’re asking it to based on calculations made with idea training data. That’s not art, that’s math that spits out images it thinks you will perceive as artistic. The argument also assumes that art only becomes so when it’s perceived as such. It’s true that all art needs an audience but like I say in the video, both art and artist are generated simultaneously by virtue of entering into the creative act. There is no such thing as creation without an audience.
@@ZachDoumitI guess if art is the holy transaction of experience by molding the abstract into physicality, then AI can only reshape preexisting physicalities. And though AI may be able to fool an ignorant audience with human mimicry, it can never supersede the real thing in the same way the inconsistent reality of subjective experience can’t supersede mathematical and scientific empiricism.
@@harrywhodeeknee4899 This is such an interesting conversation. And in an unrelated but related way, I think AI is reviving Art in real time. By amalgamating existing works to give approximations of a prompt, it's doing what previous artists used to do (e.g., someone painting a biblical scene in a pre-existing art style was arguably doing the same) except without the necessary imperfections in human art for it to make other humans feel something. (Arguably because the imperfections are the reflection of our Being in the World - but that's a comment for another video.) But for every chosen AI generated artefact, we get an underbelly of other imperfect (often grotesque) options, which is where I think there's something interesting taking place. That feeling of unease, the uncanniness of badly executed prompts is where AI art can reflect reality in a way that makes us feel something as human beings. It's just a matter of being ready to experience things that are alien to us reflecting us to ourselves for the first time.
Cool video but one thing that deeply irks me is Vincent van Gogh absolutely sold more than one painting-that misconception comes from only one painting "The Red Vineyard" being sold through a Gallery. And considering you use this as a point that meritocracy is a scam, which I find Interesting because it's also been pretty well established against another popular misconception within art history, that van Gogh's popularity was going to explode regardless of his death or not because of the work done by his brother (Theo), and his widow, Johanna.
I’m aware that the story of Van Gogh is more nuanced than “crazed poor artist who died unsuccessful” but the truths of that story do matter in this context. Was he starting to become noticed at a local level? Sure. Was he considered a bankable talent or a wealthy person due to his art? Absolutely not. Was he appreciated for his genius during his day? No. And as far as actually selling paintings, his own gallery is the source for him only selling Red Vineyards.
Even then, the Myth of Van Gogh continues to persist, there's a bunch of "van goghs" in every generation. The story of an influential artist dying penniless or unknown, but then going on to be revered happens all the time. It's still happening till this day.
A dissenting tone casts a shadow over any thoughts you present making the dialogue inherently nihilistic which makes the ‘pretentiousness’ you charge the audience as judgmental with unavoidable. You’re being pretentious and accusing the audience of calling you pretentious out of superficial judgementality so that you can unconditionally be pretentious. Cool points about mass medias effect on the modern sea of creative output… I guess I just don’t like the dark intellectualism that’s a current RUclips trend as it builds the divide between social class muck akin to carrying a Birkin bag through a Goodwill… just why? Koyaanisqatsi et al critiques the modern condition unconditionally in a way that doesn’t mount the narrative or viewer upon pomposity while letting everyone know you’re a very small piece of a very large play without rote class hierarchy disposition
Looks like the video crossed my anticipated 600 views - thrilled that people are finding this. Hopefully it speaks to you and inspires you to create. Artistry nourishes the soul in a way that wealth never can, so don't let the dollar drive your creative impulses.
People felt this👌
Believe I’m hardwired to seek external confirmation, trying to re-wire
"A paradoxical fear as an artist is the impermanent nature of expression requiring it to be made permanent in order for it to be anything other than an idea" God you have managed to put into words the sentence that flies about my head every waking moment of my life. I have daydreams of oil paintings I know are breathtaking and profound and yet ive never much as touched oil paint before. It is a wake up call that action and learning is necessary and mandatory in the artistic experience because creating passively with no manifestation is so easy.
I don't know what caused this to pop up on my homefeed, but I'm thankful it did. This was a fantastic video by you that I hope will be able to reach more people as it did me
thank you for researching this, thinking about this, scripting this, recording this, editing this, polishing this, and posting this.
even if you'll probably never get paid for, "what is due to you," i need you to know that this genuinely made a lot of people learn and think, and that's really hard to do these days, let alone keeping all of this only 13 minutes long. it's pretty obvious you were trying to help people, so congrats for doing that. thanking you here while this is still a hidden gem. :)
idk why this only has like 300 likes..
the video really moved me because I was struggling with imposter syndrome and what to do with my career. im graduating this year so the clock is ticking for me. So the thing u said about art just becoming something to fund your lifestyle instead of it staying a hobby changed my perspective a little... I was thinking about tattooing because I would be creating for someone else and the feeling I get from making something for someone else is a different drive than my own. so ur video kind of like helped me rationalize if I should take the leap and do it instead of going into fuckass medicine.
Don’t go into medicine unless you really love it; I promise. Your youth is for screwing up artistically; because unlike other mediums, art is something that gets better as you age.
@@ZachDoumit this really hit me like a bus..
but im just so terrified of being poor and flopping 😮💨ill lock in.. trust
I’ve always thought this way and wondered whether other artists feel the same way too. How art has turned into content tailored to fit trends and algorithms you can no longer be just an artist but also a content creator who also knows how to market themselves/ their art it’s so frustrating! I love art I love making art and creating and I’ve always loved it and wanted to connect with others solely based on my art but with all these complications it can really make sharing art daunting and draining. It’s definitely a double edged sword don’t get my wrong I don’t think it’s 100% I’m just expressing my frustration. And I really loved this video and how explained each point perfectly, hope it reaches more people!
As an active creative, working on a tight rope. This video BOOSTED the impulse SPARKPLUG of my whole to keep on going.❤
As someone trying to start up a video essay channel, I found this incredibly inspiring. The depth, editing, and insight in your video blew me away, and honestly, I can’t think of anything to add that hasn’t already been said in the comments. Please keep doing what you’re doing-you’re seriously underrated, and I really do believe that your work is one of a kind. 🙏🙏
You popped in my head last week when the horror short film contest was announced. Solid video & message, I often have to remind myself that the algorithm doesn’t (and shouldn’t) dictate the value of my art
I wish every artist (and non-artist) would watch this - it should be required viewing. Thank you, really.
ive met too many people in online writing groups that tried to hard to be a people pleaser type and never understood when I told them to write what they liked not what others want. Most drafts read very generic or with huge thematic issues like a heroic character supposed to be righteous but kills so easily and unaware.
And thats whats wrong with most artists, they lack awareness and don't know themselves, and hence, don't know their voice for art. Unfortunately, a lot of artist will die in obscurity, and a majority won't be anything inspiring, just slop that should've died in obscurity. I encourage others to find a new career path if they're too stubborn to see their own obscurity
BLud this video is so great and the fact it only has THIS amount of comments really shows
The irony is not lost on me
I'm so glad this came up on my feed. Amazing video
Glad you found it
Thank you! This is beautiful. Just got off a long day of work and your art gave me the motivation to work on my paintings. Cheers 🍻
Excellent, I hope it’s fun
Im halfway into the video, and its by itself is a masterpiece. I looove your editing, its clean, its good, to the point. As it should be.
There’s a quote I love from Rick Rubin’s book “The Creative Act”: “You can also pursue an unrelated career that provides security while keeping art as a hobby, a hobby that’s the most important thing in your life. All paths are of equal merit.”
Ive been making music since i was 17. I just turned 23 and Im still making music. Not because ive been successful in making something that people would pay to listen to, but because its what I love to do. I work a full time job to pay the bills and i wouldnt say that i hate it, but i certainly dont love it. However, I love that I have a job that can support this creative journey that I continue to move through
Thank you!
This is the type of passion I feel a lot of ambitious wannabes lack. I wish more people had that same dedication
Buying music gear after I got my first job was the shit, so I feel ya
You my good sir are a fabulous director. This video beautifully reflected the many hours of my contemplative thinking regarding the culture surrounding art and my place as an artist.
What the fuck. Brilliant video with fantastic production value and im honestly shocked its only got 2k views right now and comes from a relatively small channel. Keep up the wonderful work no matter what. It will pay off
Hey, Zach. First time viewer. Great job on this video, man. Really was an inspiring speech i wish i had heard years ago. Thanks from a fellow creator, I'm off to write, haha.
you have a beautiful way of speaking, thank you. i wish you success and fulfilment
It happens with all mediums. For example, let's say with paintings, even when someone is not promoting a specific piece, when analyzing it and appreciating it, the main value a lot of people use is money. This painting is important because it costs X amount of dollars. Not the meaning, not the sensation it conveys, but the price tag.
If paintings were rated off of the experience of interacting with them, the little illustrations kids make that are pinned to the fridge with magnets would probably take top spot
Fantasic editing, loved this.
Thank you for making this. It was amazing 🙏
great work, really informative, keep it up.
I have a project in my mind. It's barely a project, moreso an assortment of setting details and characters. This exact video gave me that push needed for me to actually start planning everything out. Thank you
actually amazed this isnt way bigger than it is. production quality and message are outstanding
The algorithm is brutal. Oh well, I made the video I wanted to
Friggin GREAT video
bro the counterstrike line was too funny
Wow, best video yet!
Very well edited video. The choice of B roll is emaculate
Video is so well mad, deserves wayyyy more attention
Thank you! I needed this. Subscribed and looking forward to more content from you!
i was an artist, but it's actually hard to call me one, because i never had an imagination and creative mind, i was a tool, i was able only to draw and not to create, to draw the things without any meaning (such as fan-arts of fandoms or some basic and mediocre things), so, eventually i stopped drawing because i was unable to understand what i'm doing this for, and my nihilism only made it worse, i'm just unable to find any motivation to start anything because i'm unable to understand WHY I SHOULD do this in the first place, i will die, joy is not lasting forever, i'm not putting anything into my creations because my "desire" to create something is caused by the pressure from not being as good as someone else in this world or not being good at least at something, not because i actually WANT to do this, and all this fades away because every one of them is just a desire to be happy, but i can't get a happiness from any of it, they will not save me from death, everything i'm spending my life on will be lost, the world itself will die one day and everything that was ever created would cease to exist, all this struggles for nothing. I'm genuinely amazed by the artists and wish i was one of them, but unfortunately i wasn't born with this passion nor mentality. I'm not able to see a meaning in the art anymore, everything was downgraded into a simple fuel for my hedonism and escapism.
hidden gem
I don't care what people think of my art. It's the process and peace in creating for me.
This video is art ❤❤ everything about this is breathtaking
gorgeous video
this video really made me want to start but i am a pathological procrastinater...
This video took me months to make for that reason alone. Allow yourself to procrastinate but don’t allow yourself to do nothing. Sometimes you need that blank space for the best ideas to rise to the top
Underrated af 😢
This was phenomenal
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you. Feel free to share it around
thank you for posting this :)
Thank you
I would not be surprised at all that if in 50 years or so the vacuous nature of AI created art will be fully embraced with the same emotional and intellectual investment that we place in human created/crafted art now; it seems that it may already be happening. As I understand it, AI is marketed as a means to allow us all to be more creative. The quantity of creativity will go through the roof, the qualitative level of all of that creativity itself will become quite mediocre and unless that creativity has some utilitarian purpose behind it, such as a better mousetrap, artistic creativity could well be relegated to meaningless. That would suck.
The plus to being a filmmaker or musician is potential royalties, whereas you can only sell a painting once.
One last thing; as someone who did not make the 600 cut seeing this video was still enjoyable. Thumb up!
I don’t know about that, personally it would take a substantial change in both my ethical and artistic sensibilities before I consider generative AI a genuine form of art, because as it stands, it’s just math that presents itself as an imitation of artistry
@@ZachDoumit That's the point, AI will become so prevalent (not my conclusion) in every aspect of the creative process that creativity will become meaningless. You know what it means and takes to formulate an idea, write a script, put the pieces in place and then go to work to see that vision through; you as the artist become deeply invested in the project.
In the next 15 or so years if you were using AI you could easily knock a video like this one out in an hour or less. All it would take is one or two descriptive sentences and AI would do the rest. And I can guarantee the depth that all your efforts would have normally taken will no longer play into the final piece which though just as polished would greatly suffer. There are a lot of intangibles in creating art which will evaporate.
Look at it as a spectrum with this video as an example. You can avoid using AI all together and come up with a fine finished piece of work. Or you can use AI to just write the script with a bit of guidance or let AI write the whole script. In the same way AI can do the story board, the graphics, images, sound... with you as the human mind behind it guiding the process or just allowing AI to do it all. Thousands of different decisions you put into this one piece could be done by AI, all you would need to do is make the request and shop for what fits then put your stamp on it. The whole process could be done anywhere from 0% AI to 99%.
Whether it's music, film, graphic design, sculpture, etc., at some point the respective target audiences are going to assume AI played a role in the finished product, and if history is any indication the ease of production combined with the market demands will guarantee (IMO) that AI will only grow in use and appreciation for creativity/originality will change accordingly. It's a core element of human nature that our culture itself will shift with the changing technology.
(I'm taking the long perspective here. I started out in film school when the CD was still in the early development stages. Cutting edge tech meant connecting an Apple Computer to an electric organ keyboard.)
@@ZachDoumit Some artists like Edward Skeletrix are already using AI as an aesthetic, and it actually looks good, ofcourse that's completely different to just purely using AI as a way to substitute from real paintings/animations... etc. Skeletrix more so plays with the demented and grotesque look of early generative AI content, to make disturbing and surreal worlds that he combines with his music. Anyway, if AI becomes big enough in the future that it's seen as a dominant art form, there will always be a counter movement, trying to get back to basics, as always happens in moments like this that shake up the art world.
great sound work man
great thumbnail. great video production
really good bro keep uploading
good points well made
Dude you did not need to cook this hard gaddamn
But I did
AI art is valid in the way that action-paintings are valid art. The way both work is by chance and the artist is decididing the setup and chosing which work the artist wants to be associated as his art is the key factor.
Typing a list of prompts into a generator is not an artistic exercise
@@ZachDoumit Neither is cutting a hole into a can of paint and let it dangle over a canvas, if someone would follow the logic in your argument? I would advocate it is. Art history says that a drip painting (Edit: and more so "Schüttbilder" from Hermann Nitsch) is art, too. Typing the words for the prompt is already choosing and eliminating, which is an artistic expression, like choosing the color of the paint, the thickness of the hole or the swing you give it. Someone choosing the words sunflower, table, Stilleben is an artistic expression in the same way. Please elaborate on your statement, I´m really into this topic out of curiosity.
@@ZachDoumit Does your statement take into consideration that subjectively you are doing the prompting with an artistic mindest to create (art)? Putting words on a page isn´t either and yet it is the way of writing literature. Why is me typing this comment is not artistic (leaving the "erweiterter Künstlerbegriff" from Joseph Beuys out of the picture) and why should´nt it be art if my way of writing gets a picture, which is art by definition.
@@drunken87well your comments would be considered art if they had any signifigance to anyone, including yourself, but they don’t.
I don’t paint and draw to become rich or famous.
I do it for the love of the Doing.
This finna blow up
We will see
This is great.
I agree
amazing
Um...hello? Based Department?
holy instant subscribe
Where do you find clips and sound effects like these? I loved the video and the way you edited it.
A cellphone without RUclips installed.
Thanks!
If this is about what I think it is, I’m very happy
Edit: still happy with video, but I thought it was going to be about art historians just straight up making shit up about old paintings. Hate when they do that.
That does sound fascinating
when you asked the audience the question about pretentiousness it really made me think for some reason. at the end i came to a conclusion that the people's opinion isn't that important. a pretentious person is not who is very smart or distant, but who is rude to everyone and considers himself to be higher than everyone. if you're a normal human being and you just know a lot of what people considered pretentious are interested in you're fine
commenting for the algorithm
Doing Gods work
love this video! but also that is an ableist use of schizophrenic
Well, that’s thoroughly depressing, I’ve got an art exhibition opening soon and I’m already resigned to no sales.
You're depressed about the lack of selling? Then that means you see your art as a means of funds. Which means its worthless, unfortunately.
@@Hjea Art is an economic activity, I’ve invested $10,000 to mount this show and the gallery is suffering from low sales because of the current financial climate. The connection of art and money is inextricable, no money - no art.
"To the 600 people who will watch this. Enjoy."
Me, seeing 598 views: almost there
Cheers to 600
There is no meaning in art if the purpose is to make money.
old school
this video made me an intellectual
Every time you watch the video your IQ jumps 5 points
i just think about my own mortality < 3
That's why I'm practicing to create with AI tools now, honing my taste and vision. Everyone can do this now. Yea sure it's not perfect, but that's wasn't really the point is it
my eyes just got a little wider
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What would you say to someone who claims AI can create art because the process of creation-whether from perspective or from algorithm-doesn't necessarily dictate whether the audience experiences it as art or not? (ongoing argument with a friend lol)
The part of the argument doing the heavy lifting here is the “process of creation” part. When a human creates art, the process of creation is both steered by and filtered through their taste, perspective, fears, aspirations - every element that comprises the human experience. A piece of AI art doesn’t have a process of creation, it has a process of amalgamation where the sole goal is to generate what it predicts to be the best approximation of what you’re asking it to based on calculations made with idea training data. That’s not art, that’s math that spits out images it thinks you will perceive as artistic.
The argument also assumes that art only becomes so when it’s perceived as such. It’s true that all art needs an audience but like I say in the video, both art and artist are generated simultaneously by virtue of entering into the creative act. There is no such thing as creation without an audience.
@@ZachDoumitI guess if art is the holy transaction of experience by molding the abstract into physicality, then AI can only reshape preexisting physicalities. And though AI may be able to fool an ignorant audience with human mimicry, it can never supersede the real thing in the same way the inconsistent reality of subjective experience can’t supersede mathematical and scientific empiricism.
@@harrywhodeeknee4899 This is such an interesting conversation. And in an unrelated but related way, I think AI is reviving Art in real time.
By amalgamating existing works to give approximations of a prompt, it's doing what previous artists used to do (e.g., someone painting a biblical scene in a pre-existing art style was arguably doing the same) except without the necessary imperfections in human art for it to make other humans feel something. (Arguably because the imperfections are the reflection of our Being in the World - but that's a comment for another video.)
But for every chosen AI generated artefact, we get an underbelly of other imperfect (often grotesque) options, which is where I think there's something interesting taking place. That feeling of unease, the uncanniness of badly executed prompts is where AI art can reflect reality in a way that makes us feel something as human beings. It's just a matter of being ready to experience things that are alien to us reflecting us to ourselves for the first time.
We all want to be in the movie, that's why tik tok is increasingly getting more popular.
Cool video but one thing that deeply irks me is Vincent van Gogh absolutely sold more than one painting-that misconception comes from only one painting "The Red Vineyard" being sold through a Gallery. And considering you use this as a point that meritocracy is a scam, which I find Interesting because it's also been pretty well established against another popular misconception within art history, that van Gogh's popularity was going to explode regardless of his death or not because of the work done by his brother (Theo), and his widow, Johanna.
I’m aware that the story of Van Gogh is more nuanced than “crazed poor artist who died unsuccessful” but the truths of that story do matter in this context. Was he starting to become noticed at a local level? Sure. Was he considered a bankable talent or a wealthy person due to his art? Absolutely not. Was he appreciated for his genius during his day? No. And as far as actually selling paintings, his own gallery is the source for him only selling Red Vineyards.
Van Gogh aside, and your emotions aside for that matter, i don't think it detracts from his point in the video 🤨
Even then, the Myth of Van Gogh continues to persist, there's a bunch of "van goghs" in every generation. The story of an influential artist dying penniless or unknown, but then going on to be revered happens all the time. It's still happening till this day.
You would like color of pomegranates i think
Been on my list
The constant barrage of images and music makes it impossible to pay proper attention to the speaker.
Very nihilistic approach abating your ‘pretentiousness’
Go on
A dissenting tone casts a shadow over any thoughts you present making the dialogue inherently nihilistic which makes the ‘pretentiousness’ you charge the audience as judgmental with unavoidable. You’re being pretentious and accusing the audience of calling you pretentious out of superficial judgementality so that you can unconditionally be pretentious. Cool points about mass medias effect on the modern sea of creative output… I guess I just don’t like the dark intellectualism that’s a current RUclips trend as it builds the divide between social class muck akin to carrying a Birkin bag through a Goodwill… just why? Koyaanisqatsi et al critiques the modern condition unconditionally in a way that doesn’t mount the narrative or viewer upon pomposity while letting everyone know you’re a very small piece of a very large play without rote class hierarchy disposition
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@@ZachDoumitgo on
@@ZachDoumit go on