Time Stamps 0:00 - Intro 0:57 - Paying for protesters' legal bills 2:08 - Sustainability of the Scientology protest movement 6:13 - Growing your own audience & support 9:44 - The SPTV viewers' support of the protest community 14:22 - Content that succeeds 18:35 - Why a dedicated legal defense fund would not work 29:13 - What will work 33:10 - Promoting protest channels 37:35 - Respecting my audience and their resources 42:54 - Confident Chris 44:40 - Finger pointing = failure 45:43 - Risk of protesting 47:36 - The story of 86 58:38 - Do we really want to shut down Scientology? 1:00:41 - Calling the SPTV Foundation a fraud 1:04:49 - Scientology "Fair Game" tactics have been lame 1:06:53 - Anonymous 1:08:07 - How much money is too much money? 1:13:56 - Holding it together 1:14:40 - The next SPTV cruise 1:15:44 - Who to support or not support? 1:17:29 - Sins of Scientology podcast 1:17:50 - Are donations to the SPTV Foundation tax-deductible? 1:19:20 - Louis Repetto 1:24:34 - The Antisocial Network 1:24:51 - Public defenders 1:27:19 - The SPTV Foundation phone number SCANDAL! 1:32:19 - Game Night is coming back!
I have come to regret all the donations I have sent to protesters and SPTV channels who have recently turned on each other. I have drastically narrowed my support to only those who have never stirred the pot.
This is the video I been waiting for. I have been saying to my husband for weeks about how do these people expect you to promote them after they have done nothing but sh*t talk you. It doesn't take being a rocket scientist to figure out why so its amazing how many people kept sticking up for those people and not understanding why. Also to have someone go on a live and diss the foundation that helped them and call people grifters and such when they have done how many gofundme's and asking for money constantly for trips treatments and so forth. Then others that only been here for a short time telling everyone how they should be running their channels and protesting and saying you are not doing any work if you don't do this or that. WOW is all I can say .
Exactly! It’s literal madness! I’ve never seen another human being get piled on & tormented as much as Aaron for no reason! No grievance any of these people have had make any frikkin sense whatsoever, just flat out false exaggerated delusions or severely twisted misrepresentations! It’s insane & hard to watch …and you get called a “fan girl or fan boy” when you see such gross injustice and stand up for him 🙄 it’s like NO not being a fan it’s just wrong is wrong…and right is right…and facts are facts! If he was wrong we would call it out 🙄duh…and nobody likes drama, BUT we are definitely going to stand up for anyone when they are clearly being unfairly mistreated & abused punched on! It’s hard to stay silent and not respond to trolls I don’t know how Natalie or Aaron or Jenna do it!!! It’s admirable how they handle it ..I know I couldn’t they are better people than I. For real. I think a big problem is that lot of people have this misconception that “men” can’t be abused and it’s okay to pile on Aaron because he looks like a giant ginger Viking 😂 …and because he’s successful… (envy) …they think it’s okay he can take it, and it’s not abuse or bullying when being done to him ??? False. Sucessful men can be targets and victims of abuse too ….Clearly! It’s not ok to blame him for everything just because he’s a big bald man with a successful channel 😭😂 🙄 They clearly all FORGET he worked his ass off for almost a decade building this channel it wasn’t given to him he earned it, he’s a frikkin FATHER, and he’s helped every single person at some point that has turned around and shit on him!!! He’s not perfect but he’s dedicated his life after being raised in a cult towards something GOOD and that’s more than I can say for most people I know!!! All the people throwing stones while living in their glass houses truly are the scum of the earth….and I hope they can figure out how to get a freaking LIFE and just let bro LIVE …leave people alone and worry about themselves! …”You do YOU boo!” And then they shit on Natalie right now too omg they really are whiney tit bag soulless demons 😒 they need to call grifters anonymous ☎️ and file a freakin complaint buncha D-bags.
Agree. When people do a gofundme, then expect to also get money for the same thing from (any) charity/foundation is what I call a fraudster. This person definitely has a warped perception of reality and just plays the blame game. 🤷
Right! I've been so baffled. What *exactly* do people expect to come from publicly bashing Aaron, the SPTV foundation, and those still in the SPTV foundation? It can't be that they think Aaron will be *more* likely to help them, or that the legal rules of the foundation will change, right? So is it that they want to shut this channel and the foundation down? THEN what? There will be one less resource available for people coming out of scientology; who would you want that? And it *certainly* isn't about making Scientology look bad. So...what then? What is the end game here? I am truly, from the bottom of my heart, confused.
@Tonya1823 Exactly!!! Tonya, I think these yah-hoos are what we would call Karens and Darrens: entitled little sh*ts who think the world owes them something. 🙄 Nasty folks...I want nothing to do with them!
I’ve made so many comments/responses to people who couldn’t seem to see the laws concerning a foundation & the reality of the SPTV Foundation. I’m so sorry you’ve taken so much krap from people who like children have their feelings hurt and decide public slander is the best retribution. Especially when it’s people who you have helped so much. You’ve handled it all with grace. This was a great & logical presentation.I knew a little about so many topics you covered, but you really explained so much about all of them-the “anecdotes “ really helped. And you did it all so calmly. The waters are much less muddy now!!
I knew you were gonna come back with all the answers Aaron that’s why I never give up on you no matter what the situation. You are obviously the smart one of the group and you take into consideration all the aspects of what it will entail if you had to fund these protesters, they need to come up with their own damn fund and leave the foundation out of it
Wow! Such a great adult and professional video on these topics! I stumbled upon your channel 3ish years ago and have watched others that you have highlighted. Both other exscientologists and protesters. The last few months I have stopped following a lot of others due to the whining of personal issues, backstabbing, and lying. Not everyone needs to get along, but they also don't need to spew it on YT, it doesn’t help the cause. Thank you for being a breath of fresh air! 🎉Happy Belated Birthday 🎉
I have donated to various protesters directly for their legal costs as well as support in general. That's the way it should be done. I was an anti-draft protester in the late 60's and early seventies. I never expected anyone to pay my bail or court costs when I got arrested. It was my choice, my commitment and my price to pay.
Aaron is right, I don’t give a damn about former members going after other members. If the drama comes up I’m gone. That’s not why I watch. Everyone has grievances, those should be dealt with privately.
@@Aliesha.MedleySame! I had to unsubscribe to them because I can’t even stand seeing their video titles showing up in my feed. Breaks my heart to see people turn on those they claimed to care about just weeks ago.
Keep up your incredible work Aaron. You’ve been so kind and generous to so many. You’ve been a stronghold for so many and endured enormous pressures yourself and you still care so much .
William knows what’s he’s talking about , he has personality, he’s sharp witty funny and he knows when to get serious. He’s a great defender of the people .
I got rid of a lot I was tired of fact checking them of the lies and twisting things around to suit there narrative. And it was very triggering I watch the channels to be informed not drama and backlashing , I love how Aaron promotes his channel and the content it’s educational and not on repeat. The ones that lash out there hurt feelings over their own bs that they created is no use to the cause and it’s sad. Aaron you keep doing what you’re doing your only one person you can’t babysit them. I’m so glad you done this today you done it with grace and truth 😊
Thank you A A Ron for stating what should be obvious. I pity the sucker who attempts to create a charity to support the Protesters, the hate and level of trolling that effort would attract as well as the inevitable escalation of arrests makes it an impossible task.
Aaron making far too much goddamned sense as usual. I’ve been watching this channel for a few years now, LONG before the protests. Then I started meeting your friends, fellow creators and finally the protestors. I have NEVER seen a creator platform and support other channels as much as you have, in fact sometimes I was almost perplexed by it. I followed along though and subscribed to quite a few of them, until all the nonsense started. I’m now back to 2 or 3 channels because I actually started feeling resentful of being dragged into a fight I didn’t want to be in. I have a life that has its own struggles and dramas, I don’t need to find it here on RUclips.
Exactly! I came here to say the same thing! I have unsubscribed and removed my membership support from most other channels in the last few months. I was so sick of others whiney about others and hurt feelings. Personal hurt feelings don't belong on YT platforms, in my opinion.
@Violetta683 Same! Been following A-A-ron since nearly forever, and subbed to EVERYONE he introduced. I unsubbed nearly all of them because of the insanity, stupid drama, and infighting. Now I follow just 3 or 4...that's it.
I’m tired of the complaints. You helped the protesters get platforms. You gave them a way to earn money. If the viewers aren’t supporting maybe they need to figure out why. As a never in that grew up in clear water they alienated us. I took my support to where it was needed. I follow you Aaron cause you’re different. You have ethics and it’s been great watching you accept new ideas also. People need to stop making it all your problem. I hope you feel fine ignoring g this stuff in the future but I get it. Still supporting but can’t with the chat anymore.
@sherylrae Said exactly what I wanted to say. Neither A-A-ron, nor we, "signed up" for the horrible nastiness. None of us are "responsible" for anyone else, especially the protesters!
awesome idea about Game Night!! thank you for your strong and direct approach, i have been around for a while now and mostly avoided the drama unless it's a statement like this, no clue on what's behind but keeping the focus on Scient downfall IS The Goal. again thank you for the honest and fun content that also brought Reese, Tommy and Natalie into my world
This is why I support you, honest, smart, direct! So many questions have been answered and so many of my thoughts have been completely confirmed. And I’m sorry but if a creator says the same thing over and over I’m bored and I’m OUT! Yes we get their message but there’s gotta be more to you a fun side, a lighter side. Creators Make me want to watch you PLEASE!!!
I admit I have not watched your channel very much over the last few months, basically because I wasn't interested in the drama surrounding the protestors. I am glad to hear that you've pulled back on that. Also, regarding a legal defense fund, my first thought was that such a thing could give substance to Scientology's claims of conspiracy, and nobody wants that. I've marched on Washington and participated in various protests during my lifetime, and have always been willing to accept the risks involved.
Thank you for the video, sorry you had to explain. I understand others can say on their channels what they want, and they don’t want to be told what to and not say on theirs. I don’t understand why they think they can tell Aaron what to do on this his. I have almost left the community as a whole the last couple of weeks. I have removed many a channels including more the last few days.
Thank you for getting me my first 50 subs to go live. after that I knew I was on my own. I try to make sure I'm not doing anything I need legal funds for. I hate the infighting. I stay away from it. I don't understand those that want to be involved but I guess that's why reality shows are so popular. Just remember, whatever you say online is forever.
I am so glad to have caught this video. I have been watching you for what seems like 7,8, or 9 years. I had never heard of scientology and became intrigued. This drama caused me to be turned off, and I decided to tune out. The drama was so toxic. I don't hold you responsible at all. I was just so disappointed by so many content creators in this space. The fact that so many had no problem tearing down the foundation of this movement for so many selfish tantrums was disappointing. I look forward to tuning back in and see how it goes. ❤
When you stand so tall, you become an easier target. Kinda sick of certain ex-members and their slander and hate of Aaron. I have unsubbed from their toxic channels. Sorry they took advantage of you Aaron.
I found some of the protesters that work are the ones who are not loud and tell the Scientologists they are loved. Confident Chris is another one. Feral Cheryl and many others have worked. I support people who lift each other up. I hold grace for all ex- Scientologists because of the hell they went through.
What I liked about your channel back in the day when I first stumbled on it and made me want to stay tuned in was that you're very good at explaining/ breaking down all things very well. Scientology is very confusing to those, like me, who did not grow up in it. You're down to earth, genuine, funny, and only rarely use 'spicy' language. All these things are what keep me watching :)
OMG thank you Aaron!!! I just can't believe all the backstabbing and cutthroat gossip/rumours being spewed out there. I also find it funny that some of these people have contradicted themselves from video to video. "There are none so blind as those who will not see" You do you Aaron, that's why we are all still here.
Great video Aaron!! It’s made me think about why these are my favorite channels: - growing up in Scientology - audit Scientology - Natalie - Life After a cult
I remember subscribing to every channel you mentioned in your video. These days, I must be honest Aaron, I delete more channels than I add per month simply because I refuse to support a channel that creates drama and whines about other youtubers when they all have the same common goals. So yeah what you said in this video is so true and i hope some people will take your advice.
So much sense! Thank you for making this video. I hate all the bad mouthing that has been going on, and i have stopped watching them. Thank you for all you do!
Great video, Aaron. Way to explain things without getting defensive and belligerent like some of the other channels I used to watch. I've watched you for a few years now, and think you are fair, honest, sooo intelligent, caring and kind, and nothing anyone can say will convince me otherwise. You just keep doing you and I'll keep watching.
You are the reason I found all these other channels. But yes, all the whining and character assassination of the freaking guy who encouraged me to sub to their channels in the first place was the last straw. They have no one to blame but themselves. My grandmother used to always tell me(in italian of course) Chi sputa in cielo, in faccia gli ritorna. = If you spit at the sky it will come back and hit you in the face.
Thank you for this stream. Its been needed. I've been on a board and understand the constraints. Scope creep is so hard to control. When I was president, I put the mission statement at the top of the agenda for every meeting to try and contain the discussion. It did help. Unfortunately, the people bashing the foundation will never understand. They need something to "blame" for all the worlds problems...
Am I the only person who has absolutely no idea who is fighting and what they're fighting about? I have cut way down on my SP TV watching and mostly just watch Aaron and Natalie occasionally and I have no idea what's been happening
Humans are healing on a platform we can watch from rather than connecting with who they're angry at. Keep in mind, some of them use Aaron and SPTvFoundation as synonyms. They shouldn't, but that's at least resolved some of my confusion. Not saying it makes sense tho
Yes you may be the only person! LOL. Just kidding but consider yourself lucky. Some just can’t make it on their own without either begging for help from bigger channels or blaming the bigger channels for their failures.
I'm with you. I started with AARON when he was running for office in Clearwater. He built his own channel and allowed others to hook on to his parade and expected nothing in return. How and why anyone found fault with that is so far from my priority list of things to follow. Most RUclips channels are NOT successful and the ones that are work really really hard for their success. AAron probably doesn't even realize how hard he worked to build his channel because it's a passion for him and he probably couldn't imagine NOT spending that amount of time and work doing what he did. It just happened because he made it happen. If you believe in what you're doing do it no matter what. Trust that the things you can't stand to keep yourself need to be heard by someone and it might only be that one fricking person who hears it but needs to. Each one of us has a role to play. Just play it!
1:32:24. I think a game night on the SPTV foundation channel and as part of a fundraiser is a great idea! Game nights were so fun and are often requested. It is nice as a viewer that watches Scientology content,( which can be very dark)to watch fun content with content creators we watch. 😊
@Kanonliv I did the same. Her upbringing was especially awful so I always allowed grace. She is severely traumatized and I pray for her healing. After last night I was done though. That was vile.
@@bennybob-y8t I seen it every word she was saying was fact checking in my head I was gonna comment but like they say don’t feed the wolves when she spoke of Natalie’s GFM I was gonna ask about hers what she gonna do with the money the lawyer idea is squashed her insurance pays pretty much for her meds so why does she need a GFM I was sub.i think to every SPTV channel out there and protesters I’m down to a handful if that , It sad but it’s there own doings
It was her lies during the live she did with Lara for me. The one where someone[🤨]was off-screen using Lara as a parrot for their vitriol. It's a big red flag for me when people change their personality and alter stories based on who is around them. I saw this with LF so often it became triggering to watch.
I used to view several former Scientology member channels. Mark Rinder, Leah Remini and couple others. A A RON and Growing up in Scientology are the only channel I still view and support. Keep up the great updates and information.
Thank you A Aron. I always admire the way you say things. You stay out of the drama (until forced to confront it). I have unsubbed from everyone except you, Jenna, and Natalie and Reese. It makes me sad to see "friends" turning on each other and bad mouthing each other. If these people allow a foundation, (that they obviously want to help in ways that it was not created for)....then they werent friends to begin with. I will stick with my 3 drama free creators and support them 100%.
Yeah I had to unsub quite of few for my mental health, I didn't sign up for all that drama, I left all that kind of stuff when I left my ex of 33 years 15 years ago and pastoring churches 23 out of those 33 years. People can drain you and effect your mental and your physical health. I went from and Extrovert to and Introvert. It's AMAZING how Christians ( not all ) but most, will lie, spread false rumors, dig up your past and try and use it to tear you down, because they don't like you or how you do things. (Cultists like) Stay Strong Aaron, I see you, and I see them!! 😉❤️
I can't work out why some creators keep making bashing videos... Oh right, they're the only ones that get any clicks 😂 People will get bored of them soon enough and you'll still be here making great content.
Great live, Aaron! I found you via your interview with Cults to Consciousness. It was a fantastic interview and I was hooked to your channel immediately. It was you who promoted Streets in those early weeks/months, as the movement began and grew. You have never waivered from you goals. You have been fair, clear and concise in your content and boundaries. You continue to educate on your channel, as well as putting yourself out there on many other large channels, with a goal of shining a light on the cult. Your knowledge and explanations, far outweighs any other channels I've watched. The direct attacks on you, and the Foundation were quite frankly, disgusting! And yes, we all know which clown poisoned that well. It's for that reason alone, that I unsubbed to anyone who hitched their wagon to the clown train as well as those who promote hate content. I'm subbed to you and a half a dozen others, who have chosen the high road. Keep doing what you're doing, keep your chin up, and keep educating the world with your knowledge about this cult.
I remember clearly that you stated that all calls to the SPTV Foundation went to voice-mail... You would have had to hire several "operators" to answer the calls. I don't have any RUclips channel, but I still get 75-100 every day. My phone is on Do Not Disturb 24/7. Our kids, doctors, dogs' groomers, etc, are marked to call through. Everyone else must be vetted. In any event, regarding the whining, 3rd partying, etc, 1. this too shall pass, and 2. it's going to be okay.
The other thing that has turned me off to a lot of other channels, besides the whining, complaining, and temper tantrums, is the CONSTANT grifting for money. It’s a real turn-off. A few even list out their bills and feel entitled to have everyone else pay their bills. Excuse me, what?!
I will always support Aaron and the SPTV Foundation because of what they both do, which is help people leave a horrible, disgusting, international child trafficking cult! Protesters & their supporters who think different should leave the community because that is the whole reason this community exists. I have unsubscribed to many of the protesters because I subscribed to their channel to see their amazing work in protesting this awful cult but when they changed to be a channel set on creating a negative narrative about Aaron & the foundation, I chose to unsubscribe. I wish people would stay on the topic that they created the channel for, most of these people do not even protest anymore so why would anyone feel the need to support them financially or watch their content if you are just paying them to spread lies about a person and a foundation that is doing the work actually🤷♀
Once again you are forced to disclose more information just to set the record straight that really pisses me off. But every time Aaron you rise to the occasion this is awesome I'm very proud love you all it's not a job everybody can do.
I'm mortified that these people ever claimed to be friends with you when they're so quick to badmouth you after you helped them. Nobody is obligated to talk to them let alone help them with RUclips. It's so immature on their part.
What happened with 86 is the grossest part of the whole protest thing. Just thinking about it irritates me some... Keep fighting the good fight everyone
When you first got Serge on your channel my mind was blown by his intelligence and very astute perspective. So when he made his own channel I was so excited to listen to more. But, for me, his videos are unwatchable. He just gets louder and louder and more irate and it’s really impossible to listen to for me. I do understand why but it’s not helping the situation of kids in Scientology if no one can bear to watch the videos and find out what’s happening. Most people listening to a RUclips video are ground down by life and their own problems and are mainly wanting to listen to someone who kinda feels like a buddy. Aaron feels like my buddy chatting away in the background while I do my dishes. Does that mean I don’t care about what he is talking about? No! I actually do care. But the videos need to hold my interest and not cause me to feel agitated and upset by the delivery. I know people will say, talking about child abuse isn’t fun to listen to. No, it’s not. But I can handle it and I do care and want to listen and support a channel. But if the voice talking to me is LITERALLY shouting at me for an hour my nervous system can’t handle it. So I don’t watch or listen. And if I feel this way, I know others do to.
You're not alone. I WISH I could withstand the force of what Serge brings. But I cannot. I support the effort. But cannot withstand the caustic tone of his advocacy. In writing, more so. But even that is hard for me. It's what needs to be said and it needs to be said loud and clear but all of us are struggling with overload from the constant onslaught of trauma and abuse coming at us day in and day out. I want to support everyone, but I can only put my attention in so many places. I wish it didn't hurt so much, but it does.
Absolutely agree. I could only watch Serge when he was on with AAron because he wasn't so ... bombastic. At the risk of using a cliche, I get 'triggered' when I feel like I'm being yelled at .... and I haven't done anything more than be a concerned never-in.
This was a rational logical conversation about the recent videos bashing Aaron. They keep saying Aaron needs therapy which I think is ridiculous for them to be saying. His videos are rational whereas they make the most vile irrational videos where they come off as unhinged.
I also wanted to say I don't know why some of the protesters that get their self in a situation think Sptv foundation should pay their legal fees and take away from someone that needs help desperately. Help getting out of scientology or that has left and needs help which is what the foundation is solely for from day one. That's kind of selfish on their part IMHO. No disrespect to the protesters!
I thought that the SPTV channels could help support the foundation with the money they received. Sad to see people who have received help from the foundation talk rubbish and don't help raise money - a bit hypocritical. How is the foundation going to get money if many of the never ins get fed up because of what we feel is internal noise that is about trampling each other down.
Streets was huge before he ever got near the cult. His monitoring of corruption in the LAPD was his main focus. I used to watch his channel years ago on twitter. He also knows what he is doing. He knows the law and he isn't naive.
The problem is Streets is not really a protester. He's an auditor guy who had a specific grudge over an incident that took place, has now made his point and has moved on. His only contribution now is the fallout from these legal cases and restraining orders, some of which aren't actually anything to do with scientology. It's kindof remarkable that the biggest anti scientology channel is now someone not involved to any large degree with anti Scientology. But at least he hasn't gone nuts and turned on everybody so we can be grateful for that.
@@bobjones4024 his channel isn't remotely the largest anti-scientology channel. if you are going by amount of viewers, it really means nothing. they are just plain fans of streets. the "turning on everybody" is somewhat just drama queens. and somewhat that the truth needs to come out. as an ex i could point out all kinds of shady stuff. but all that would get is more haters. i don't care about protestors nor do i remotely think they will bring down the cult. they are mostly just a side circus. if it floats their boat, fine. won't take down the cult though. even larafm has said if they dumped her father out, she would stop. he doesn't want to leave.
@@bobjones4024 well my response here disappeared. as far as i'm concerned, the biggest anti-scientology channel is aaron. i don't really watch streets if i'm looking for cult content. i don't watch protesters. and i don't watch the channels geared to talking to never-ins. been there done that no need to do it twice. it's just sad when i see things being said that aren't correct. and if you try to point that out, you get called all sorts of crap. there are a lot of haters posting on this page. there are a lot of haters posting on reddit. and some of them are exes that just are completely FOS. case in point: "TheSneakster2020 2mo ago Edited 2mo ago Charities not complying with I.R.S. regulations have put so very many violators in prison. I wonder whether Erring Smith-Levin and whomever is currently the nominal CFO understands that ?"
Amazing video A-a-Ron! ❤ I flat refuse to spend my free time listening to drama. Trauma does not give people the authority to drag other people down with noise! I hate to inform the geniuses that they are only hurting their own channels, I am systematically unsubbing from these channels one by one.
This make sense AAron ! I can’t imagine dealing with all of this! Also, your demeanor is very respectful on this video. Whatever you’re doing is agreeing with you . I hope you however make up with someone. I like when you get together and collaborate with other ex-Scientologist . Love this video. 😊
The infighting is such bs. It's ok to have different opinions and modes of operation.. and you're responsible for your own actions. These attacks are a symptom of cancel culture. 😢
Arron, I started with you some years ago…. I stand with you till the end. Everyone else is an add on, some are true and others are drama… I left them with their mitch brisker motives & emotions. Those people use you for CLICKS! Period…..
Yeah, I could never understand how people try to frame you as the bad guy for promoting other people's channels... you were obviously just trying to help. My thinking is that these people are going to be hating no matter what ya do 🤦🏻♂️ I think you put it best when you said "symbiotic relationship". Great video as always A-A-Ron!
Foundation should not fund protesting. If I give money to a foundation I want it to help the people leaving or ex scientologists that in need of help within boundaries.
And likewise, if I want to help the protesters, there are ways that I can do that separately, without it having to be Foundation money. One doesn't exclude the other!
This, in my opinion is why I wouldn't protest because I wouldn't want to ask for money for legal fees and I wouldn't want to plead guilty, some protestors come across very naive
One of the things that attracted me to the protester channels was seeing such diverse people supporting one another. It was so special and so wonderful to experience. I miss it.
Fighting against abuse, while simultaneously abusing someone who wants to help you, is so disingenuous-86 didn’t deserve that!! He has put up boundaries and nobody has the right to criticise him for that. Wish him all the best!
Didn’t 86 also fund the occupy protest as well? And wasn’t in the middle of that when all the hate started being thrown at him? I’ve seen him throwing super chats for ages. He has always been so generous. That was also when Denver Jay backed out ?
Streets has a regular job. He is doing his protesting for the right reasons. Then there are the victims of Scientology who have escaped and want to share the horror they have lived. There are those who really want to help even though they are not there pounding the pavement they donate financially. Then there are those who see this as an easy way to make a buck without having a job. Taking advantage of the goodness of others. Roll around looking for the next group they will protest. Nothing from the heart. This was disappointing when I realized it to be true.
@NYCgirl927 Nailed it! Most of the "protesters" are in it just because they're LAZY. The good ones do it *right.* Get a big enough group of people together, there WILL be troublemakers...always!
I have been wondering about the SPtv Foundation purpose because it did not seem logical to me that the purpose could be to address the needs of people leaving Scientology and protestors at once, and under the 501C3 law, you must have one purpose and one target demographic group. Thank you for clarifying that indeed, the foundation purpose would not legally be able to include a legal defense fund for protesters.
Time Stamps
0:00 - Intro
0:57 - Paying for protesters' legal bills
2:08 - Sustainability of the Scientology protest movement
6:13 - Growing your own audience & support
9:44 - The SPTV viewers' support of the protest community
14:22 - Content that succeeds
18:35 - Why a dedicated legal defense fund would not work
29:13 - What will work
33:10 - Promoting protest channels
37:35 - Respecting my audience and their resources
42:54 - Confident Chris
44:40 - Finger pointing = failure
45:43 - Risk of protesting
47:36 - The story of 86
58:38 - Do we really want to shut down Scientology?
1:00:41 - Calling the SPTV Foundation a fraud
1:04:49 - Scientology "Fair Game" tactics have been lame
1:06:53 - Anonymous
1:08:07 - How much money is too much money?
1:13:56 - Holding it together
1:14:40 - The next SPTV cruise
1:15:44 - Who to support or not support?
1:17:29 - Sins of Scientology podcast
1:17:50 - Are donations to the SPTV Foundation tax-deductible?
1:19:20 - Louis Repetto
1:24:34 - The Antisocial Network
1:24:51 - Public defenders
1:27:19 - The SPTV Foundation phone number SCANDAL!
1:32:19 - Game Night is coming back!
YES!!!! A positive and adult conversation! This is why I continue to support you!!!
I have come to regret all the donations I have sent to protesters and SPTV channels who have recently turned on each other.
I have drastically narrowed my support to only those who have never stirred the pot.
@@LoveWinterMaineWoods yes, I think alot of us feel the same way. Who wants to watch nasty entitled people who just keep asking for money.
@@Green-Fairy agree 100% @LoveWinterMaineWoods
I think it’s mentally unhealthy to keep watching this stuff.
Same with all the things happening in our country right now I just couldn’t take any more mental stress.
@@Green-FairyI feel this would encourage worse behavior in the same problematic people.
Chris is the GOAT. I will continue to support him. Plus, he makes me laugh. Best giggle ever. ❤😂
@@I-Heart-Snoopy yes! Chris is hilarious and I never get tired of watching him. I miss Chris Without A Hellcat.
@@cerisewilson4088Me too, Cerise. He was great. But after what happened to him, so awful, I don’t blame him a bit😥
@@elizabethconnolly3260 I don’t know what happened to him. I just knew that all the sudden he was no longer protesting.
@@cerisewilson4088 I confused Chris without a hellcat for Confident Chris. CC was the person attacked while getting into his car early this year.
This is the video I been waiting for. I have been saying to my husband for weeks about how do these people expect you to promote them after they have done nothing but sh*t talk you. It doesn't take being a rocket scientist to figure out why so its amazing how many people kept sticking up for those people and not understanding why. Also to have someone go on a live and diss the foundation that helped them and call people grifters and such when they have done how many gofundme's and asking for money constantly for trips treatments and so forth. Then others that only been here for a short time telling everyone how they should be running their channels and protesting and saying you are not doing any work if you don't do this or that. WOW is all I can say .
Exactly! It’s literal madness! I’ve never seen another human being get piled on & tormented as much as Aaron for no reason! No grievance any of these people have had make any frikkin sense whatsoever, just flat out false exaggerated delusions or severely twisted misrepresentations! It’s insane & hard to watch …and you get called a “fan girl or fan boy” when you see such gross injustice and stand up for him 🙄 it’s like NO not being a fan it’s just wrong is wrong…and right is right…and facts are facts! If he was wrong we would call it out 🙄duh…and nobody likes drama, BUT we are definitely going to stand up for anyone when they are clearly being unfairly mistreated & abused punched on! It’s hard to stay silent and not respond to trolls I don’t know how Natalie or Aaron or Jenna do it!!! It’s admirable how they handle it ..I know I couldn’t they are better people than I. For real. I think a big problem is that lot of people have this misconception that “men” can’t be abused and it’s okay to pile on Aaron because he looks like a giant ginger Viking 😂 …and because he’s successful… (envy) …they think it’s okay he can take it, and it’s not abuse or bullying when being done to him ??? False. Sucessful men can be targets and victims of abuse too ….Clearly! It’s not ok to blame him for everything just because he’s a big bald man with a successful channel 😭😂 🙄 They clearly all FORGET he worked his ass off for almost a decade building this channel it wasn’t given to him he earned it, he’s a frikkin FATHER, and he’s helped every single person at some point that has turned around and shit on him!!! He’s not perfect but he’s dedicated his life after being raised in a cult towards something GOOD and that’s more than I can say for most people I know!!! All the people throwing stones while living in their glass houses truly are the scum of the earth….and I hope they can figure out how to get a freaking LIFE and just let bro LIVE …leave people alone and worry about themselves! …”You do YOU boo!” And then they shit on Natalie right now too omg they really are whiney tit bag soulless demons 😒 they need to call grifters anonymous ☎️ and file a freakin complaint buncha D-bags.
Agree. When people do a gofundme, then expect to also get money for the same thing from (any) charity/foundation is what I call a fraudster. This person definitely has a warped perception of reality and just plays the blame game. 🤷
Right! I've been so baffled. What *exactly* do people expect to come from publicly bashing Aaron, the SPTV foundation, and those still in the SPTV foundation? It can't be that they think Aaron will be *more* likely to help them, or that the legal rules of the foundation will change, right? So is it that they want to shut this channel and the foundation down? THEN what? There will be one less resource available for people coming out of scientology; who would you want that? And it *certainly* isn't about making Scientology look bad. So...what then? What is the end game here? I am truly, from the bottom of my heart, confused.
@Tonya1823
Exactly!!! Tonya, I think these yah-hoos are what we would call Karens and Darrens: entitled little sh*ts who think the world owes them something. 🙄 Nasty folks...I want nothing to do with them!
@Tori_in_the_Trees
Tori, IF this type of person ever had the purpose of truly getting rid of Scientology, they forgot that purpose.
I’ve made so many comments/responses to people who couldn’t seem to see the laws concerning a foundation & the reality of the SPTV Foundation. I’m so sorry you’ve taken so much krap from people who like children have their feelings hurt and decide public slander is the best retribution. Especially when it’s people who you have helped so much. You’ve handled it all with grace. This was a great & logical presentation.I knew a little about so many topics you covered, but you really explained so much about all of them-the “anecdotes “ really helped. And you did it all so calmly. The waters are much less muddy now!!
I literally don't have time for all the drama, I am here for exposing Scientology. Keep it up Aaron 🎉
I knew you were gonna come back with all the answers Aaron that’s why I never give up on you no matter what the situation. You are obviously the smart one of the group and you take into consideration all the aspects of what it will entail if you had to fund these protesters, they need to come up with their own damn fund and leave the foundation out of it
Streets pays little attention to the chat, that's why he succeeds
Wow! Such a great adult and professional video on these topics! I stumbled upon your channel 3ish years ago and have watched others that you have highlighted. Both other exscientologists and protesters. The last few months I have stopped following a lot of others due to the whining of personal issues, backstabbing, and lying. Not everyone needs to get along, but they also don't need to spew it on YT, it doesn’t help the cause. Thank you for being a breath of fresh air! 🎉Happy Belated Birthday 🎉
I have donated to various protesters directly for their legal costs as well as support in general. That's the way it should be done. I was an anti-draft protester in the late 60's and early seventies. I never expected anyone to pay my bail or court costs when I got arrested. It was my choice, my commitment and my price to pay.
@@heartshapedisle😂😂😂😂😂 Do some research into Vietnam era protesting. Legal fees 😂😂😂😂
Aaron is right, I don’t give a damn about former members going after other members. If the drama comes up I’m gone. That’s not why I watch. Everyone has grievances, those should be dealt with privately.
I have grown to not even want to click on certain channels just because it is heartbreaking to see friends tear each other apart…for no real purpose
@@Aliesha.MedleySame! I had to unsubscribe to them because I can’t even stand seeing their video titles showing up in my feed. Breaks my heart to see people turn on those they claimed to care about just weeks ago.
@Aliesha.Medley
Same! I had to quit watching SO many of them! Very sad to see these folks tearing each other down like rabid dogs.
Keep up your incredible work Aaron. You’ve been so kind and generous to so many. You’ve been a stronghold for so many and endured enormous pressures yourself and you still care so much .
This was well done. Thanks for being the grown-up in the room ✌️
William knows what’s he’s talking about , he has personality, he’s sharp witty funny and he knows when to get serious. He’s a great defender of the people .
I wish everyone would follow Gude's example. He's strong, and most importantly, he's autonomous.
BRAVO Aaron so spot on! Glad to hear you address this!
I got rid of a lot I was tired of fact checking them of the lies and twisting things around to suit there narrative. And it was very triggering I watch the channels to be informed not drama and backlashing , I love how Aaron promotes his channel and the content it’s educational and not on repeat. The ones that lash out there hurt feelings over their own bs that they created is no use to the cause and it’s sad. Aaron you keep doing what you’re doing your only one person you can’t babysit them.
I’m so glad you done this today you done it with grace and truth 😊
Thank you A A Ron for stating what should be obvious. I pity the sucker who attempts to create a charity to support the Protesters, the hate and level of trolling that effort would attract as well as the inevitable escalation of arrests makes it an impossible task.
not to mention scientology's lawyers would use it as evidence of conspiracy in their efforts to get rid of ALL protestors once and for all
Aaron making far too much goddamned sense as usual. I’ve been watching this channel for a few years now, LONG before the protests. Then I started meeting your friends, fellow creators and finally the protestors. I have NEVER seen a creator platform and support other channels as much as you have, in fact sometimes I was almost perplexed by it. I followed along though and subscribed to quite a few of them, until all the nonsense started. I’m now back to 2 or 3 channels because I actually started feeling resentful of being dragged into a fight I didn’t want to be in. I have a life that has its own struggles and dramas, I don’t need to find it here on RUclips.
Exactly! I came here to say the same thing! I have unsubscribed and removed my membership support from most other channels in the last few months. I was so sick of others whiney about others and hurt feelings. Personal hurt feelings don't belong on YT platforms, in my opinion.
@Violetta683
Same! Been following A-A-ron since nearly forever, and subbed to EVERYONE he introduced. I unsubbed nearly all of them because of the insanity, stupid drama, and infighting. Now I follow just 3 or 4...that's it.
Thank you for helping that young man! The SPTV Foundation rocks.
Yes! I agree with every word you said. This is why we stick with the content creators that keep their eye on the prize. ❤
I’m tired of the complaints. You helped the protesters get platforms. You gave them a way to earn money. If the viewers aren’t supporting maybe they need to figure out why. As a never in that grew up in clear water they alienated us. I took my support to where it was needed. I follow you Aaron cause you’re different. You have ethics and it’s been great watching you accept new ideas also. People need to stop making it all your problem. I hope you feel fine ignoring g this stuff in the future but I get it. Still supporting but can’t with the chat anymore.
@sherylrae
Said exactly what I wanted to say. Neither A-A-ron, nor we, "signed up" for the horrible nastiness. None of us are "responsible" for anyone else, especially the protesters!
awesome idea about Game Night!! thank you for your strong and direct approach, i have been around for a while now and mostly avoided the drama unless it's a statement like this, no clue on what's behind but keeping the focus on Scient downfall IS The Goal. again thank you for the honest and fun content that also brought Reese, Tommy and Natalie into my world
This is why I support you, honest, smart, direct! So many questions have been answered and so many of my thoughts have been completely confirmed. And I’m sorry but if a creator says the same thing over and over I’m bored and I’m OUT! Yes we get their message but there’s gotta be more to you a fun side, a lighter side. Creators Make me want to watch you PLEASE!!!
I admit I have not watched your channel very much over the last few months, basically because I wasn't interested in the drama surrounding the protestors. I am glad to hear that you've pulled back on that. Also, regarding a legal defense fund, my first thought was that such a thing could give substance to Scientology's claims of conspiracy, and nobody wants that. I've marched on Washington and participated in various protests during my lifetime, and have always been willing to accept the risks involved.
Thank you for the video, sorry you had to explain. I understand others can say on their channels what they want, and they don’t want to be told what to and not say on theirs. I don’t understand why they think they can tell Aaron what to do on this his. I have almost left the community as a whole the last couple of weeks. I have removed many a channels including more the last few days.
Replay crew, here -- thank you, A-Aron, for all you do, all you wade through, and all you call out.
Thank you for getting me my first 50 subs to go live. after that I knew I was on my own. I try to make sure I'm not doing anything I need legal funds for. I hate the infighting. I stay away from it. I don't understand those that want to be involved but I guess that's why reality shows are so popular. Just remember, whatever you say online is forever.
Absolutely loving what you have been focusing on these days 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I am so glad to have caught this video. I have been watching you for what seems like 7,8, or 9 years. I had never heard of scientology and became intrigued. This drama caused me to be turned off, and I decided to tune out. The drama was so toxic. I don't hold you responsible at all. I was just so disappointed by so many content creators in this space. The fact that so many had no problem tearing down the foundation of this movement for so many selfish tantrums was disappointing. I look forward to tuning back in and see how it goes. ❤
When you stand so tall, you become an easier target. Kinda sick of certain ex-members and their slander and hate of Aaron. I have unsubbed from their toxic channels. Sorry they took advantage of you Aaron.
So have I! Back to my regular handful! 😁
I found some of the protesters that work are the ones who are not loud and tell the Scientologists they are loved. Confident Chris is another one. Feral Cheryl and many others have worked. I support people who lift each other up. I hold grace for all ex- Scientologists because of the hell they went through.
What I liked about your channel back in the day when I first stumbled on it and made me want to stay tuned in was that you're very good at explaining/ breaking down all things very well.
Scientology is very confusing to those, like me, who did not grow up in it.
You're down to earth, genuine, funny, and only rarely use 'spicy' language.
All these things are what keep me watching :)
OMG thank you Aaron!!! I just can't believe all the backstabbing and cutthroat gossip/rumours being spewed out there. I also find it funny that some of these people have contradicted themselves from video to video. "There are none so blind as those who will not see" You do you Aaron, that's why we are all still here.
Great video Aaron!! It’s made me think about why these are my favorite channels:
- growing up in Scientology
- audit Scientology
- Natalie - Life After a cult
I also love AuditLA, Confident Chris and MDMedia. No drama.
100% spot on Aaron. Well done and great points made!!!
For those who need to know, I’m giving you a standing ovation!! Well said Aaron!
I’ll second that 💕🏴💕
@Onionja_
I third that! 😊💕👍
This was amazing! Thanks for clearing up something that shouldn't need to be complicated
I remember subscribing to every channel you mentioned in your video. These days, I must be honest Aaron, I delete more channels than I add per month simply because I refuse to support a channel that creates drama and whines about other youtubers when they all have the same common goals. So yeah what you said in this video is so true and i hope some people will take your advice.
Same!
me roo 100%
Comment, I don’t agree with everything you have said / done, however, I do agree with this live. Thank you
So much sense! Thank you for making this video. I hate all the bad mouthing that has been going on, and i have stopped watching them. Thank you for all you do!
Great video, Aaron. Way to explain things without getting defensive and belligerent like some of the other channels I used to watch. I've watched you for a few years now, and think you are fair, honest, sooo intelligent, caring and kind, and nothing anyone can say will convince me otherwise. You just keep doing you and I'll keep watching.
Thanks for sharing your feelings. It is nice to hear the full picture
The mission statement is directed fully towards ex Scientos & their famlies. Nothing else. Thats what the board of directors signed up for too.
My Sci viewing time dropped by 50% while waiting for the 🚽🪠 to clear.
Does You Tube offer tutorials to teach new channels the ropes? There must be some avenues to learn more.
Actually...YES. Along with content creators who ALSO put out helpful videos.
You are the reason I found all these other channels. But yes, all the whining and character assassination of the freaking guy who encouraged me to sub to their channels in the first place was the last straw. They have no one to blame but themselves. My grandmother used to always tell me(in italian of course) Chi sputa in cielo, in faccia gli ritorna. = If you spit at the sky it will come back and hit you in the face.
Thank you Aaron appreciate you and all you do!
Thank you for this stream. Its been needed. I've been on a board and understand the constraints. Scope creep is so hard to control. When I was president, I put the mission statement at the top of the agenda for every meeting to try and contain the discussion. It did help. Unfortunately, the people bashing the foundation will never understand. They need something to "blame" for all the worlds problems...
Oh, and 1000% agree with you with the legal fund management. Impossible to determine who is worthy and how much to give.
And that is why we love you! 🔥🔥👍👍
Am I the only person who has absolutely no idea who is fighting and what they're fighting about? I have cut way down on my SP TV watching and mostly just watch Aaron and Natalie occasionally and I have no idea what's been happening
Humans are healing on a platform we can watch from rather than connecting with who they're angry at. Keep in mind, some of them use Aaron and SPTvFoundation as synonyms. They shouldn't, but that's at least resolved some of my confusion. Not saying it makes sense tho
Yes you may be the only person! LOL. Just kidding but consider yourself lucky. Some just can’t make it on their own without either begging for help from bigger channels or blaming the bigger channels for their failures.
I don’t know either. When the drama starts, I move on.
I'm with you. I started with AARON when he was running for office in Clearwater. He built his own channel and allowed others to hook on to his parade and expected nothing in return.
How and why anyone found fault with that is so far from my priority list of things to follow.
Most RUclips channels are NOT successful and the ones that are work really really hard for their success.
AAron probably doesn't even realize how hard he worked to build his channel because it's a passion for him and he probably couldn't imagine NOT spending that amount of time and work doing what he did. It just happened because he made it happen.
If you believe in what you're doing do it no matter what. Trust that the things you can't stand to keep yourself need to be heard by someone and it might only be that one fricking person who hears it but needs to.
Each one of us has a role to play. Just play it!
There is nothing worth knowing😂 unless you enjoy junior high-school like drama.
1:32:24. I think a game night on the SPTV foundation channel and as part of a fundraiser is a great idea! Game nights were so fun and are often requested. It is nice as a viewer that watches Scientology content,( which can be very dark)to watch fun content with content creators we watch. 😊
I watched the most recent video from LF. Such gross behaviour, I felt like I needed to take a shower after it.
I shut down the video after half a minute and unsubscribed.. and I have watched a million of her vids
I have reported it and speaking of legal funds….i would donate for Aaron and Natalie to take legal action against her for slander!
@Kanonliv I did the same. Her upbringing was especially awful so I always allowed grace. She is severely traumatized and I pray for her healing. After last night I was done though. That was vile.
@@bennybob-y8t I seen it every word she was saying was fact checking in my head I was gonna comment but like they say don’t feed the wolves when she spoke of Natalie’s GFM I was gonna ask about hers what she gonna do with the money the lawyer idea is squashed her insurance pays pretty much for her meds so why does she need a GFM I was sub.i think to every SPTV channel out there and protesters I’m down to a handful if that , It sad but it’s there own doings
It was her lies during the live she did with Lara for me. The one where someone[🤨]was off-screen using Lara as a parrot for their vitriol.
It's a big red flag for me when people change their personality and alter stories based on who is around them. I saw this with LF so often it became triggering to watch.
It is so good to hear from you again. Excellent discussion and I remain supporter..
I used to view several former Scientology member channels. Mark Rinder, Leah Remini and couple others. A A RON and Growing up in Scientology are the only channel I still view and support. Keep up the great updates and information.
Thank you,and welcome back.
I feel that things were pretty good in L.A. before that whole encampment situation 😮
YEP! And it took only ONE idiot to ruin the whole thing. 😠👺
Thank you A Aron. I always admire the way you say things. You stay out of the drama (until forced to confront it). I have unsubbed from everyone except you, Jenna, and Natalie and Reese. It makes me sad to see "friends" turning on each other and bad mouthing each other. If these people allow a foundation, (that they obviously want to help in ways that it was not created for)....then they werent friends to begin with. I will stick with my 3 drama free creators and support them 100%.
I'm also so sick of the badmouthing. Initially, I subscribed to all antisci channels. I've removed many channels that concentrate on the hate.
I did exactly the same!
I did as well. The amount of nonsense was overwhelming.
Same as well , sick of all the bitchin’
So did I as it isn't enjoyable and causes anger.
Yeah I had to unsub quite of few for my mental health, I didn't sign up for all that drama, I left all that kind of stuff when I left my ex of 33 years 15 years ago and pastoring churches 23 out of those 33 years. People can drain you and effect your mental and your physical health. I went from and Extrovert to and Introvert. It's AMAZING how Christians ( not all ) but most, will lie, spread false rumors, dig up your past and try and use it to tear you down, because they don't like you or how you do things. (Cultists like)
Stay Strong Aaron, I see you, and I see them!! 😉❤️
I can't work out why some creators keep making bashing videos... Oh right, they're the only ones that get any clicks 😂 People will get bored of them soon enough and you'll still be here making great content.
Afknmen A-a-ron Finally someone said it …Thank you ❤❤
Great live, Aaron! I found you via your interview with Cults to Consciousness. It was a fantastic interview and I was hooked to your channel immediately. It was you who promoted Streets in those early weeks/months, as the movement began and grew. You have never waivered from you goals. You have been fair, clear and concise in your content and boundaries. You continue to educate on your channel, as well as putting yourself out there on many other large channels, with a goal of shining a light on the cult. Your knowledge and explanations, far outweighs any other channels I've watched.
The direct attacks on you, and the Foundation were quite frankly, disgusting! And yes, we all know which clown poisoned that well. It's for that reason alone, that I unsubbed to anyone who hitched their wagon to the clown train as well as those who promote hate content. I'm subbed to you and a half a dozen others, who have chosen the high road. Keep doing what you're doing, keep your chin up, and keep educating the world with your knowledge about this cult.
Journey is going through my mind again just the northern girl
@@donnahanna10565 🤣🤣😁
TY Aaron....definitely not here for the drama. BTW i heard about how you helped Chance. That was amazing. Keep up the good work 👏
Well said. Continue doing you. The haters will always find something to witch about. Because of that i have unsubscribe. Tired of the whining
You mean people should take responsibility for themselves, their lives and their channels???? What a concept! LOL
What a concept! People should also realize that trauma is not an excuse for poor behavior.
My PEARLS!
@@LawNerdFan WOW you mean like being an adult and living in the real world? Novel concept!!
WOW! 🤯…holy shit 🤔I think you’re on to something!! 💡👏🏻…😜😂💯💯💯💯💯💯
I remember clearly that you stated that all calls to the SPTV Foundation went to voice-mail... You would have had to hire several "operators" to answer the calls. I don't have any RUclips channel, but I still get 75-100 every day. My phone is on Do Not Disturb 24/7. Our kids, doctors, dogs' groomers, etc, are marked to call through. Everyone else must be vetted. In any event, regarding the whining, 3rd partying, etc,
1. this too shall pass, and
2. it's going to be okay.
The other thing that has turned me off to a lot of other channels, besides the whining, complaining, and temper tantrums, is the CONSTANT grifting for money. It’s a real turn-off. A few even list out their bills and feel entitled to have everyone else pay their bills. Excuse me, what?!
I will always support Aaron and the SPTV Foundation because of what they both do, which is help people leave a horrible, disgusting, international child trafficking cult! Protesters & their supporters who think different should leave the community because that is the whole reason this community exists. I have unsubscribed to many of the protesters because I subscribed to their channel to see their amazing work in protesting this awful cult but when they changed to be a channel set on creating a negative narrative about Aaron & the foundation, I chose to unsubscribe. I wish people would stay on the topic that they created the channel for, most of these people do not even protest anymore so why would anyone feel the need to support them financially or watch their content if you are just paying them to spread lies about a person and a foundation that is doing the work actually🤷♀
Thank you, Aaron. Thank you!
Once again you are forced to disclose more information just to set the record straight that really pisses me off. But every time Aaron you rise to the occasion this is awesome I'm very proud love you all it's not a job everybody can do.
Dayum, Aaron, coming out gunsa blazing! Great points man.
I'm mortified that these people ever claimed to be friends with you when they're so quick to badmouth you after you helped them. Nobody is obligated to talk to them let alone help them with RUclips. It's so immature on their part.
What happened with 86 is the grossest part of the whole protest thing. Just thinking about it irritates me some...
Keep fighting the good fight everyone
When you first got Serge on your channel my mind was blown by his intelligence and very astute perspective. So when he made his own channel I was so excited to listen to more. But, for me, his videos are unwatchable. He just gets louder and louder and more irate and it’s really impossible to listen to for me.
I do understand why but it’s not helping the situation of kids in Scientology if no one can bear to watch the videos and find out what’s happening. Most people listening to a RUclips video are ground down by life and their own problems and are mainly wanting to listen to someone who kinda feels like a buddy.
Aaron feels like my buddy chatting away in the background while I do my dishes. Does that mean I don’t care about what he is talking about? No! I actually do care. But the videos need to hold my interest and not cause me to feel agitated and upset by the delivery.
I know people will say, talking about child abuse isn’t fun to listen to. No, it’s not. But I can handle it and I do care and want to listen and support a channel. But if the voice talking to me is LITERALLY shouting at me for an hour my nervous system can’t handle it. So I don’t watch or listen. And if I feel this way, I know others do to.
You're not alone. I WISH I could withstand the force of what Serge brings. But I cannot. I support the effort. But cannot withstand the caustic tone of his advocacy. In writing, more so. But even that is hard for me. It's what needs to be said and it needs to be said loud and clear but all of us are struggling with overload from the constant onslaught of trauma and abuse coming at us day in and day out. I want to support everyone, but I can only put my attention in so many places. I wish it didn't hurt so much, but it does.
Absolutely agree. I could only watch Serge when he was on with AAron because he wasn't so ... bombastic. At the risk of using a cliche, I get 'triggered' when I feel like I'm being yelled at .... and I haven't done anything more than be a concerned never-in.
I agree!
Same. His anger is getting in his own way of doing what he can to fight Scientology.
I find Serge very difficult to understand. He tends to waffle on a lot without making a point.
This was a rational logical conversation about the recent videos bashing Aaron. They keep saying Aaron needs therapy which I think is ridiculous for them to be saying.
His videos are rational whereas they make the most vile irrational videos where they come off as unhinged.
I'm so glad I don't know who is making these videos bashing Aaron. His and Jenna's are the only ones I watch.
Preach! Couldn’t agree more. Their therapy isn’t working, which is apparent in the way they act.
@@BlissfulDee You are not missing anything.
I also wanted to say I don't know why some of the protesters that get their self in a situation think Sptv foundation should pay their legal fees and take away from someone that needs help desperately. Help getting out of scientology or that has left and needs help which is what the foundation is solely for from day one. That's kind of selfish on their part IMHO. No disrespect to the protesters!
I thought that the SPTV channels could help support the foundation with the money they received. Sad to see people who have received help from the foundation talk rubbish and don't help raise money - a bit hypocritical. How is the foundation going to get money if many of the never ins get fed up because of what we feel is internal noise that is about trampling each other down.
Streets was huge before he ever got near the cult. His monitoring of corruption in the LAPD was his main focus. I used to watch his channel years ago on twitter. He also knows what he is doing. He knows the law and he isn't naive.
The problem is Streets is not really a protester. He's an auditor guy who had a specific grudge over an incident that took place, has now made his point and has moved on. His only contribution now is the fallout from these legal cases and restraining orders, some of which aren't actually anything to do with scientology. It's kindof remarkable that the biggest anti scientology channel is now someone not involved to any large degree with anti Scientology. But at least he hasn't gone nuts and turned on everybody so we can be grateful for that.
@@bobjones4024 his channel isn't remotely the largest anti-scientology channel. if you are going by amount of viewers, it really means nothing. they are just plain fans of streets. the "turning on everybody" is somewhat just drama queens. and somewhat that the truth needs to come out. as an ex i could point out all kinds of shady stuff. but all that would get is more haters. i don't care about protestors nor do i remotely think they will bring down the cult. they are mostly just a side circus. if it floats their boat, fine. won't take down the cult though. even larafm has said if they dumped her father out, she would stop. he doesn't want to leave.
@@bobjones4024 well my response here disappeared. as far as i'm concerned, the biggest anti-scientology channel is aaron. i don't really watch streets if i'm looking for cult content. i don't watch protesters. and i don't watch the channels geared to talking to never-ins. been there done that no need to do it twice. it's just sad when i see things being said that aren't correct. and if you try to point that out, you get called all sorts of crap. there are a lot of haters posting on this page. there are a lot of haters posting on reddit. and some of them are exes that just are completely FOS. case in point:
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Charities not complying with I.R.S. regulations have put so very many violators in prison. I wonder whether Erring Smith-Levin and whomever is currently the nominal CFO understands that ?"
Amazing video A-a-Ron! ❤ I flat refuse to spend my free time listening to drama. Trauma does not give people the authority to drag other people down with noise! I hate to inform the geniuses that they are only hurting their own channels, I am systematically unsubbing from these channels one by one.
This make sense AAron ! I can’t imagine dealing with all of this! Also, your demeanor is very respectful on this video. Whatever you’re doing is agreeing with you . I hope you however make up with someone. I like when you get together and collaborate with other ex-Scientologist . Love this video. 😊
The infighting is such bs. It's ok to have different opinions and modes of operation.. and you're responsible for your own actions. These attacks are a symptom of cancel culture. 😢
Dank Aaron!/Thanks Aaron! Groeten uit Nederland/Greetings from The Netherlands!🌷🌍🌷
Arron, I started with you some years ago…. I stand with you till the end. Everyone else is an add on, some are true and others are drama… I left them with their mitch brisker motives & emotions. Those people use you for CLICKS! Period…..
You do make sense, Aaron, and I can see why CoS would be happy to see the infighting 😢 Can't we all get along😊❤🎉
THIS is what I meant when I said “Where you at?” 😅
Yeah, I could never understand how people try to frame you as the bad guy for promoting other people's channels... you were obviously just trying to help. My thinking is that these people are going to be hating no matter what ya do 🤦🏻♂️
I think you put it best when you said "symbiotic relationship".
Great video as always A-A-Ron!
I don’t listen to these channels who attack each other. It is not conducive to end Scientology.
Same.
I LOVE that you were able to talk with Steve regarding this man.
Bravo Aaron bravo ! I've been waiting for this. 100% agrre with everything you said ❤
Damn straight. Welcome back, A A Ron.
If anybody chooses to do this, it certainly shouldn’t include SPTV or ASL, in any way whatsoever.
Foundation should not fund protesting. If I give money to a foundation I want it to help the people leaving or ex scientologists that in need of help within boundaries.
And likewise, if I want to help the protesters, there are ways that I can do that separately, without it having to be Foundation money. One doesn't exclude the other!
Love the idea of SPTV Foundation game nights ❤❤❤❤
You are saying what everyone needs to hear. Thanks fir taking the time to do it.
Solid!
A-Aron coming in hot with the mic drop 🎤 well done my friend 👏
This, in my opinion is why I wouldn't protest because I wouldn't want to ask for money for legal fees and I wouldn't want to plead guilty, some protestors come across very naive
One of the things that attracted me to the protester channels was seeing such diverse people supporting one another. It was so special and so wonderful to experience. I miss it.
Too bad that 86 is no longer there to help those who really need it. 😢👊🏼🧡
I agree but can't blame the poor guy for leaving. Some people bit the hand that fed them and the rest were too cowardly to say anything.
Fighting against abuse, while simultaneously abusing someone who wants to help you, is so disingenuous-86 didn’t deserve that!!
He has put up boundaries and nobody has the right to criticise him for that. Wish him all the best!
Didn’t 86 also fund the occupy protest as well? And wasn’t in the middle of that when all the hate started being thrown at him? I’ve seen him throwing super chats for ages. He has always been so generous. That was also when Denver Jay backed out ?
Streets has a regular job. He is doing his protesting for the right reasons. Then there are the victims of Scientology who have escaped and want to share the horror they have lived. There are those who really want to help even though they are not there pounding the pavement they donate financially. Then there are those who see this as an easy way to make a buck without having a job. Taking advantage of the goodness of others. Roll around looking for the next group they will protest. Nothing from the heart. This was disappointing when I realized it to be true.
@NYCgirl927
Nailed it! Most of the "protesters" are in it just because they're LAZY. The good ones do it *right.*
Get a big enough group of people together, there WILL be troublemakers...always!
I have been wondering about the SPtv Foundation purpose because it did not seem logical to me that the purpose could be to address the needs of people leaving Scientology and protestors at once, and under the 501C3 law, you must have one purpose and one target demographic group. Thank you for clarifying that indeed, the foundation purpose would not legally be able to include a legal defense fund for protesters.