I had Kenda Juggernaut 30 tpi and I could reduce PSI in the mid/low teens without issue. Worn them down under a 1000 miles and switched to Vee8 120tpi 26X4 fat tires. These tires would pull heavy to the one side with PSI under 15. They were smooth as silk at +17 PSI. The Vee8 at 17-20 PSI felt better on the single track and +20 mph on paved road than the Kenda at any PSI (less noise, better traction, thicker tire tread, less flat prone, 10X more knobby).
Those levels are for sure high PSI for fat biking. I would not go higher than what you’ve tried. The fun thing about fat biking is it’s all your own preference. Some like a slower pace when riding on sand or snow with lower PSI. I always try and get the highest PSI possible before I start bouncing off everything when riding packed trails and roads. Try doing the squeeze tires test before heading out each time and you’ll learn what level of firmness you like best. Obviously at faster speeds more pressure will keep those sidewalls from flexing so much. Definitely avoid going as high as 20 PSI on fat bike tires. That’s about what you want for mounting tubeless tires, but then you’ll want to bring that tire pressure down after mounting tires. You will eventually blow out your bead or cause damage to the tire at high PSI. I know it’s weird at first playing with fat bikes. Just forget everything you know about mountain/regular bikes and you’ll be styling!
@@fatbikeasinine803 The 30 TPI is Threads Per Inch) and that makes a very stiff tire. The Vee8 120 tpi makes for a softer tire and I could fold a 120 tpi tire and place it in my Topeak MTX rack bag because it was so flexible. That extra flexibility worked for single track riding at 17-20 psi AND it worked for faster speeds and less road resistance when work commuting at 18-21 mph.
Squeeze testing is pretty much my method. I always start a little high and then let out some when on the trail. I keep telling myself one day I will buy a high quality gauge and track it, but experience and ride sensation does the job.
Ya with bikes and components costing so much these days, I happy when I can save some money or get by without certain items. I would of course love a high quality gauge... then I could tell bike(fishing) stories about how low of pressure I ran on the trail.... Ha Ha.
I just bought a Giant Yukon 27.5x4.5 I still have my 27.5 skinny so I’m not new to biking just new to fat tire. I been playing with the air pressure keeping front tire about 1 lb lower than front. Started at 10 lbs and now down to 7 lbs the issues I been having are 1. Riding to the trail head which is 2 miles from my house feels like a true work out. 2. Bike seems to have a lot of bounce in it at pressures above 7 lbs. So far the 7 lbs seems the best as far as keeping the bounce out but man what a work out Now after watching your video maybe I should try 14lbs in rear and keep front at 6lbs Thanks for the video
Congrats on the new fatty. I wouldn’t go much higher than 10 psi in fat bike tires. Unless you’re riding on loose sand or snowy trails you can stay much higher so the rolling resistance isn’t as bad. But, yes fat Biking is usually a but of a workout. Shhhhh...😂 ha ha. But seriously, I understand about riding to the trail head with low psi tires. You’re always going to have some bounce on a fat bike, though. Keep experimenting. I just did 3 front 5 back on some snow and it was the toughest MTB riding ever. Like riding exercise bike on 11 😱. For dirt and rocks try 6-8 front and 8-10 in back. That range will be pretty firm. Happy fat biking.
Thanks for watching. My newest videos are 4K and much better quality. Have fun riding your new fatty. It’s going to take a few rides to get used to fat bikes, but you’re going to be hooked!
Just picked up the Larger frame Farley 5. Compared to my schwin 21,speed mountain bike big box store... My Farley 5 is way lighter. The gearing in this 10 speed is Way more of a granny gear than the Schwin granny gear. 3rd gear is equivalent to 1st on Schwin. Still playing with PSI On the Fatty. I'm 215lbs. I'm trying 10psi up front and 11 psi in the rear. Rolls nice. Haven't had it on the hard pack/rocky trails yet . Just picked up yesterday. You think that's to low PSI for my weight and rock rolling/ tiny 4-7 inch jumping?
I think you’re at a good psi range to start out. I weigh about 170lbs and tend to go much lower now a days. As long as you’re not at risk of bottoming out the rim on the ground you’ll be fine. Higher PSI makes fat bikes easier to pedal. It’s fun to see how low you’re at, but the more I do this the more I go by feel. My rule in general is to go higher in the back by about 2 PSI than in the front. I now just pump up the back tire until it’s firm enough that I can just squeeze a little. Then in the front just go a little lower. Every ride is different and there’s really no right or wrong PSI for dry conditions. If you find that you’re really struggling to pedal and keep momentum, that add more air. If you’re sinking into the sand like a regular mtb than reduce pressure. Email me and I give you more advice. Snow of course is a different bike game altogether. info@fatbikeasinine.com. Enjoy your new fat bike!!!
Are there tubes that’ll go over 20psi? I’m on a 2015 expert Fatboy rigid , tubed and I only ride pavement with a trailer for my 3yo and I’m at 20psi but with Everything attached and my basket loaded up I’m pudgy on the rear tire .
There isn’t anything for fat bikes over 20 psi. I think you should be riding much lower air pressure for fat bike tires. They should be fairly firm for pavement, but going past 15 psi could result in a tire bead pop. I know it sounds crazy, but 20 psi level is best for mounting a tire bead, but then quickly lower it once mounted. However if you’re not having issues so far🤷. Check your tires for max psi and don’t go near that. Email me for more personalized advice. info@fatbikeasinine.com. I’m happy look into this more.
Damn man, thanks. Nice and simple explanation on tire pressure. All others make it ia cryptic seemingly complex thing, you just kept it real lol. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! Ya I like to keep things simple... not to mention that a pump that registers below 10 PSI is expensive. Glad you enjoyed the video. Let me know if there’s anything else we could simplify!
Yes for a cheap in price pump the Air Attack 650 is great. Been using the same pump for several years now. Thanks for watching. I’m working on a new tire pressure video soon!
Try 10-12 psi. Give the tire a squeeze and it should barely give. Try a little less in front, I find it’s ideal in all conditions. At 12 psi your tires will be pretty solid. I only go higher when I’m trying to mount a tubeless tire. Otherwise stay away from 20 psi. Fat bikes roll a little bit slower than other bikes so keep that in mind when airing up tires. If you go to high you will feel any bump in the road. Too low and you’ll get some resistance on pedal strokes. I weigh 170 lbs. Try a tad more air if you are a lot heavier. Thanks for watching, I’m doing a new series soon about tire pressure in various conditions.
We’re getting better at making these videos. Our newest couple have the music drop out when people are speaking. Thanks for watching! It’s only going to get better!
For road and pavement riding starts around 10-12psi. Give a squeeze check and your tires should be be pretty firm. Don’t go higher than 15psi. Try a little less air in front to help absorb some of those little bumps.
There’s some videos done last winter on snowy trails. I try and say what my tire pressure is now in the videos. 4psi in front and 5-6psi in back is a good place to start out with on snow. Unless it’s a groomed trail then go lower and ride slower👍
I’m about 5 foot 9 inches. I have it in a small size. I find it to be a perfect fit for me. The bike is a 2020 Rocky Mountain Blizzard 20. This bike weighs a whopping 34 lbs. in small size, but rides so nice as is. Hope that helps you get the right fat bike!
If comparing to a regular mountain bike, fat bikes are more stable on all surfaces due to the wide tires. They are a little tough on rolling resistance when you have the tires aired to very low air pressure. But, in general fat bikes are being built with the same drive trains and breaks as regular mountain bikes these days so they ride really well on everything. Just like any style of bike, if you buy cheap than it will weigh more and not be as nice. I recommend checking out a fat bike with SRAM 1x12 drive train. You'll love it and you can always upgrade parts later on if you fall in love with fat biking (you will).
Fat bike tires are completely different from mtb. Every rider has a different weight. So it’s impossible to give exact psi ranges for everyone in one short video. This video is just to encourage riders to get a “feel” for how much pressure to use. We have a blog post from a while back that has a chart that you’ll find helpful. fatbikeasinine.com/blogs/news/fat-bike-tire-pressure-101-how-to-select-the-correct-air-pressure-for-fat-biking
This is a quick way to setup your tire pressure. It's what I'm doing now. Give your tires the squeeze test!
i bought a dual motor fully with 26x4 ... love it...
I had Kenda Juggernaut 30 tpi and I could reduce PSI in the mid/low teens without issue. Worn them down under a 1000 miles and switched to Vee8 120tpi 26X4 fat tires. These tires would pull heavy to the one side with PSI under 15. They were smooth as silk at +17 PSI. The Vee8 at 17-20 PSI felt better on the single track and +20 mph on paved road than the Kenda at any PSI (less noise, better traction, thicker tire tread, less flat prone, 10X more knobby).
Those levels are for sure high PSI for fat biking. I would not go higher than what you’ve tried. The fun thing about fat biking is it’s all your own preference. Some like a slower pace when riding on sand or snow with lower PSI. I always try and get the highest PSI possible before I start bouncing off everything when riding packed trails and roads. Try doing the squeeze tires test before heading out each time and you’ll learn what level of firmness you like best. Obviously at faster speeds more pressure will keep those sidewalls from flexing so much. Definitely avoid going as high as 20 PSI on fat bike tires. That’s about what you want for mounting tubeless tires, but then you’ll want to bring that tire pressure down after mounting tires. You will eventually blow out your bead or cause damage to the tire at high PSI. I know it’s weird at first playing with fat bikes. Just forget everything you know about mountain/regular bikes and you’ll be styling!
@@fatbikeasinine803 The 30 TPI is Threads Per Inch) and that makes a very stiff tire. The Vee8 120 tpi makes for a softer tire and I could fold a 120 tpi tire and place it in my Topeak MTX rack bag because it was so flexible. That extra flexibility worked for single track riding at 17-20 psi AND it worked for faster speeds and less road resistance when work commuting at 18-21 mph.
Squeeze testing is pretty much my method. I always start a little high and then let out some when on the trail. I keep telling myself one day I will buy a high quality gauge and track it, but experience and ride sensation does the job.
Ya with bikes and components costing so much these days, I happy when I can save some money or get by without certain items. I would of course love a high quality gauge... then I could tell bike(fishing) stories about how low of pressure I ran on the trail.... Ha Ha.
From what i see here in north shore, the fastest and the gnarliest guy doesn't even know his tire pressure he just rides it by feel. LOL
I just go by feel for the most part. It’s fun to know how low you’re at though too, but most helpful for newbies to fat biking. Thanks for watching!
I just bought a Giant Yukon 27.5x4.5 I still have my 27.5 skinny so I’m not new to biking just new to fat tire.
I been playing with the air pressure keeping front tire about 1 lb lower than front. Started at 10 lbs and now down to 7 lbs the issues I been having are
1. Riding to the trail head which is 2 miles from my house feels like a true work out.
2. Bike seems to have a lot of bounce in it at pressures above 7 lbs.
So far the 7 lbs seems the best as far as keeping the bounce out but man what a work out
Now after watching your video maybe I should try 14lbs in rear and keep front at 6lbs
Thanks for the video
Congrats on the new fatty. I wouldn’t go much higher than 10 psi in fat bike tires. Unless you’re riding on loose sand or snowy trails you can stay much higher so the rolling resistance isn’t as bad. But, yes fat Biking is usually a but of a workout. Shhhhh...😂 ha ha. But seriously, I understand about riding to the trail head with low psi tires. You’re always going to have some bounce on a fat bike, though. Keep experimenting. I just did 3 front 5 back on some snow and it was the toughest MTB riding ever. Like riding exercise bike on 11 😱.
For dirt and rocks try 6-8 front and 8-10 in back. That range will be pretty firm. Happy fat biking.
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No google stuff around here! We do have a brand we’re building though. Check out the apparel store. fatbikeasinine.com
Good video, I got my fat bike yesterday and am hitting the trails today, this will be very helpful, Thanks.
Thanks for watching. My newest videos are 4K and much better quality. Have fun riding your new fatty. It’s going to take a few rides to get used to fat bikes, but you’re going to be hooked!
Just picked up the Larger frame Farley 5. Compared to my schwin 21,speed mountain bike big box store... My Farley 5 is way lighter. The gearing in this 10 speed is Way more of a granny gear than the Schwin granny gear. 3rd gear is equivalent to 1st on Schwin. Still playing with PSI On the Fatty. I'm 215lbs. I'm trying 10psi up front and 11 psi in the rear. Rolls nice. Haven't had it on the hard pack/rocky trails yet . Just picked up yesterday. You think that's to low PSI for my weight and rock rolling/ tiny 4-7 inch jumping?
I think you’re at a good psi range to start out. I weigh about 170lbs and tend to go much lower now a days. As long as you’re not at risk of bottoming out the rim on the ground you’ll be fine. Higher PSI makes fat bikes easier to pedal. It’s fun to see how low you’re at, but the more I do this the more I go by feel. My rule in general is to go higher in the back by about 2 PSI than in the front. I now just pump up the back tire until it’s firm enough that I can just squeeze a little. Then in the front just go a little lower. Every ride is different and there’s really no right or wrong PSI for dry conditions. If you find that you’re really struggling to pedal and keep momentum, that add more air. If you’re sinking into the sand like a regular mtb than reduce pressure. Email me and I give you more advice. Snow of course is a different bike game altogether. info@fatbikeasinine.com. Enjoy your new fat bike!!!
Are there tubes that’ll go over 20psi? I’m on a 2015 expert Fatboy rigid , tubed and I only ride pavement with a trailer for my 3yo and I’m at 20psi but with Everything attached and my basket loaded up I’m pudgy on the rear tire .
There isn’t anything for fat bikes over 20 psi. I think you should be riding much lower air pressure for fat bike tires. They should be fairly firm for pavement, but going past 15 psi could result in a tire bead pop. I know it sounds crazy, but 20 psi level is best for mounting a tire bead, but then quickly lower it once mounted. However if you’re not having issues so far🤷. Check your tires for max psi and don’t go near that. Email me for more personalized advice. info@fatbikeasinine.com. I’m happy look into this more.
Definitely do more air in rear tire than the front as your weight is over the rear tire.
Damn man, thanks. Nice and simple explanation on tire pressure. All others make it ia cryptic seemingly complex thing, you just kept it real lol. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! Ya I like to keep things simple... not to mention that a pump that registers below 10 PSI is expensive. Glad you enjoyed the video. Let me know if there’s anything else we could simplify!
@@fatbikeasinine803 Most tyre gauges register down to 3 psi for dial type
I am using this pump since 2017 n still going strong
Yes for a cheap in price pump the Air Attack 650 is great. Been using the same pump for several years now. Thanks for watching. I’m working on a new tire pressure video soon!
@@fatbikeasinine803 yes 100% agreed n i pumped upto 2.8 plus tires without any problem
His laugh xD love this guy
hi what pressure do i need for riding on the road , with fat tyres , the max on the side of the tyres is 20 psi
Try 10-12 psi. Give the tire a squeeze and it should barely give. Try a little less in front, I find it’s ideal in all conditions. At 12 psi your tires will be pretty solid. I only go higher when I’m trying to mount a tubeless tire. Otherwise stay away from 20 psi. Fat bikes roll a little bit slower than other bikes so keep that in mind when airing up tires. If you go to high you will feel any bump in the road. Too low and you’ll get some resistance on pedal strokes. I weigh 170 lbs. Try a tad more air if you are a lot heavier. Thanks for watching, I’m doing a new series soon about tire pressure in various conditions.
Good explanation but the music makes it hard to hear your voice.
We’re getting better at making these videos. Our newest couple have the music drop out when people are speaking. Thanks for watching! It’s only going to get better!
That’s why it’s called Asinine .
Thanks 😎
What pressure for road only
For road and pavement riding starts around 10-12psi. Give a squeeze check and your tires should be be pretty firm. Don’t go higher than 15psi. Try a little less air in front to help absorb some of those little bumps.
Thank You
If we keep more pressure we have challenges of tyre opening while running, and it’s jam
What?😂
GO FAT BIKING, You Know it FBA ;-)
Thanks Old Man Fat Bike!
get rid of distracting music
Ya that’s an older one before pro level cameras and editing software. The newest videos are much better… going forward better. Thanks for watching.
@@fatbikeasinine803 I ride mostly on snow ..do you have a vid on tire pressure guide for those conditions?
There’s some videos done last winter on snowy trails. I try and say what my tire pressure is now in the videos. 4psi in front and 5-6psi in back is a good place to start out with on snow. Unless it’s a groomed trail then go lower and ride slower👍
How tall are you? What size is that bike? Thanks man!
I’m about 5 foot 9 inches. I have it in a small size. I find it to be a perfect fit for me. The bike is a 2020 Rocky Mountain Blizzard 20. This bike weighs a whopping 34 lbs. in small size, but rides so nice as is. Hope that helps you get the right fat bike!
Are fat bikes easier to ride. I am a beginner
If comparing to a regular mountain bike, fat bikes are more stable on all surfaces due to the wide tires. They are a little tough on rolling resistance when you have the tires aired to very low air pressure. But, in general fat bikes are being built with the same drive trains and breaks as regular mountain bikes these days so they ride really well on everything. Just like any style of bike, if you buy cheap than it will weigh more and not be as nice. I recommend checking out a fat bike with SRAM 1x12 drive train. You'll love it and you can always upgrade parts later on if you fall in love with fat biking (you will).
Cant hear you over the music.
Ya that was in the early days where I only had basic video creation skills and software. Thanks for commenting
Quit with the music
Yes the newer videos don’t have music like this. Thanks for commenting.
Tell me the psi range not useless blah blah?
Fat bike tires are completely different from mtb. Every rider has a different weight. So it’s impossible to give exact psi ranges for everyone in one short video. This video is just to encourage riders to get a “feel” for how much pressure to use. We have a blog post from a while back that has a chart that you’ll find helpful. fatbikeasinine.com/blogs/news/fat-bike-tire-pressure-101-how-to-select-the-correct-air-pressure-for-fat-biking