For those asking, 91 octane is recommended not required. Source is the 2023 Honda Accord press kit: hondanews.com/en-US/honda-automobiles/releases/release-d95e86a42b1b62ebbbc78120ff00a1fd-2023-honda-accord-press-kit
Just got a sport-L in black. It’s amazing black leather, black paint and blacked out wheels. I was thinking about the ex-L model but it only has 17 inch wheels and no diffusers or spoiler . But it does give your parking sensors and 3 mpg more. It really all comes to personal preference
The more I look at the car the more I love the simple aesthetic. The top trim sport needs all of the features from the Touring. it’s a disappointment I can get bose and rear seat vents/USB on the touring but none of the above on the top trim sport. It’s a really neat car and I love the price. I look forward to checking one out.
Great video! However, I am curious on your source for Honda recommending 91 octane for every Accord engine. In the 2023 Accord Hybrid user’s manual, Honda specifically recommends 87 octane or higher.
@@stevehammes I have a 2023 Accord Touring, and nowhere on the spec sheet does it reference any mention of 91 octane, recommended or otherwise. Since it is the same engine and transmission, I would assume that the Sport version is not different t.
I'm confused with all these premium 91 octane fuel recomendations. I noticed that they changed their recomendations for the 1.5 turbo engine, they now say that it requires 91 octane fuel since it's a turbo engine with 20psi of boost, you need to avoid pre ignition at all cost. But I taught we would be good with ordinary fuel on this atmospheric R20 based Atkinson engine, but I read it has a 13.9:1 compression ratio, it's really high for an engine like this, then I said to myself, should I also put 91 octane fuel in this one? What's the real answer?☕🍩
Great review of what I think is a gorgeous car. One-pedal driving in an HEV?? That’s awesome. I think Honda has really de-uglified a chunk of its lineup: Accord, Civic, HR-V, and CR-V.
When you see a a row of white ones on the dealer lot they really don't look good. However the red and black versions look great. I saw a l black with black wheels going down the road and I did a double take because I thought it was a new Audi and actually looked dangerous! I took a Sport trim level for a test drive and I agree with you Steve its a great car
Best review. Thanks. I was just able to get a touring model. I love it thus far. Any shortcomings negates the fact that this is one fantastic vehicle. I feel quite confident with Hondas reputation that I made a wise choice.
@Brayden Rawson yikes! I believe that's the highest trim $$$. Well..for an Accord lover, reliability and "not so flashy" design is what attracts me. I rarely get back seat passengers anyway. Sport tri. Is the highest trim for me
I have no idea why Honda didn't offer the Clarity plug-in hybrid drive system in the Accord. I have a Clarity and the Accord is better looking with more back seat room.
I liked the look of it in pictures when it first came out. Then I saw it in person and wasn't so thrilled. The wheels look too narrow and don't fill out the wheel wells at all. I don't like the over styled Hondas. But, this simple styling needs a little help.
I believe your comment about requiring 91 octane is incorrect. I would not have bought one if that were true. Funny that you found the interior noisy inside. I have the new Touring and it is WAY more quiet than the outgoing generation. Perhaps the Touring has some tweaks to quiet it down inside?
Please be kind enough to highlight the 91 octane ‘recommendation, not requirement’. I have read your link to the press kit, twice, and find no reference to octane ratings at all, while the owners manual for the car DOES say 87 pump octane will suffice.
The problems I find with the 2023 Honda Accord: 1. No All Wheel Drive is available 2. No heated steering Wheel is available 3. No spare tire is available 4. No XM Radio. If a 2023 or 2024 car missing all of these features is fine for you, then get one. Hopefully, by the time 2025 comes around these deficiencies will be resolved. I hope someone from Honda reads this and decides to deal with these omissions.
I thought about getting one of these. But..for the price, you don't get enough creature comforts and such. I paid 40k for my santa fe limited, it's not a hybrid but has every feature I want/need in a vehicle. This? No ventilated seats, interior looks and feels cheap, only fwd (obviously you could get a crv, but still has all the same 'issues'), etc. Yeah, only getting 20ish mpg kind of sucks, especially coming from a rav4 hybrid where I got 42+ mpg all day every day no matter what with absolutely no change to my spirited driving style. But, it's a trade off that is worth it to me for now. I'm going to keep the santa fe, and pick up a maverick XL hybrid for the fuel economy aspect. Even less creature comforts, but the interior doesn't actually seem cheap..and easily $10k cheaper than one of these, for basically the same fuel economy and much more versatility with the bed/being able to tow a small trailer/and the height.
Steve, you are the first video reviewer I've seen that mentioned that Honda is recommending the higher octane for the Accord. Huge fail and I'm more than a little surprised. The low HP rating wouldn't lead you to assume that at all. This really makes me rethink my purchase options. Shame, because I'm truly smitten with the new Accord.
It's recommended but not required for both the 1.5T and 2.0. Honda doesn't quote seperate output figures for various octanes nor do I know how it might affect MPG.
I downloaded the 2023 Accord Hybrid Owner's Manual... nowhere does it state that Honda recommends 91 octane for this car. Page 504 of the manual specifically states "87 octane or higher".
Looks for 2023 Accord is too blend....Honda, take a look at 2023 Prius...for your inspiration....from all the edgy designers that work for you, this is the best you can do?
The new Accord is extremely disappointing. Features and interior quality of an economy car in the compact segment. Combined with a firm-ish ride, heavier steering, and Honda's typical road noise, it's not worth your money. The CR-V is MUCH better, but unfortunately has even HEAVIER, dangerously unusable steering.
For those asking, 91 octane is recommended not required. Source is the 2023 Honda Accord press kit: hondanews.com/en-US/honda-automobiles/releases/release-d95e86a42b1b62ebbbc78120ff00a1fd-2023-honda-accord-press-kit
Owners manual says 87
This is only on turbo models not hybrid
@@davewilson7602 Not true.
I opened up the Honda Press Kit and cannot find where it says anything about Octane or Fuel.
Getting close to 100k subscribers Steve. Well deserved...you are one of the best.
Appreciate that!!! Maybe next year.
Why he doesn’t have far more subscribers already is a great mystery
Just got a sport-L in black. It’s amazing black leather, black paint and blacked out wheels. I was thinking about the ex-L model but it only has 17 inch wheels and no diffusers or spoiler . But it does give your parking sensors and 3 mpg more. It really all comes to personal preference
How much did it cos
If I’m not mistaken, this hybrid system ranked better then Hybrid Camry. Source from 2020 Accord Hybrid owner. I love my Accord!
The more I look at the car the more I love the simple aesthetic. The top trim sport needs all of the features from the Touring. it’s a disappointment I can get bose and rear seat vents/USB on the touring but none of the above on the top trim sport. It’s a really neat car and I love the price. I look forward to checking one out.
Been watching you for I think 7 years and driven or owned most of what you ranked high and always agreed - another winner for Honda!
Thanks!
@@stevehammeshow much slower does it feel than the 2.0T, in practical terms (keyword practical )?
Great video! However, I am curious on your source for Honda recommending 91 octane for every Accord engine. In the 2023 Accord Hybrid user’s manual, Honda specifically recommends 87 octane or higher.
I came here for this comment
Recommended not required. It's right on the spec sheet. 91 octane
@@stevehammes I have a 2023 Accord Touring, and nowhere on the spec sheet does it reference any mention of 91 octane, recommended or otherwise. Since it is the same engine and transmission, I would assume that the Sport version is not different t.
@@CageyLeigh facts. Don’t know what Steve talking bout
I'm confused with all these premium 91 octane fuel recomendations. I noticed that they changed their recomendations for the 1.5 turbo engine, they now say that it requires 91 octane fuel since it's a turbo engine with 20psi of boost, you need to avoid pre ignition at all cost. But I taught we would be good with ordinary fuel on this atmospheric R20 based Atkinson engine, but I read it has a 13.9:1 compression ratio, it's really high for an engine like this, then I said to myself, should I also put 91 octane fuel in this one?
What's the real answer?☕🍩
It looks good but for some reason it kinda looks like a futuristic car from the 80s.
😂, true, maybe that's the start of the new retro futuristic trend.
😂😂fr
great video, Steve! (as always)
Thanks Jake! Trying to get out of the winter shoots and get into the spring.
Great review as always Steve!! Greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷
Thank you, sir!
Great review of what I think is a gorgeous car. One-pedal driving in an HEV?? That’s awesome. I think Honda has really de-uglified a chunk of its lineup: Accord, Civic, HR-V, and CR-V.
I like the look of the CR-V. The Accord, not so much.
When you see a a row of white ones on the dealer lot they really don't look good. However the red and black versions look great. I saw a l black with black wheels going down the road and I did a double take because I thought it was a new Audi and actually looked dangerous! I took a Sport trim level for a test drive and I agree with you Steve its a great car
White with 20 or 5% tint? Looks really, really good..
Agree with All You have said Steve 👍
It's all about class plus many more.
Good video review
Best review. Thanks. I was just able to get a touring model. I love it thus far. Any shortcomings negates the fact that this is one fantastic vehicle. I feel quite confident with Hondas reputation that I made a wise choice.
Mind sharing those short comings? Thinking of getting this model soon
Steve: how slow does this feel compared to the 2.0t and the old v6 from 2017 model? Is it much faster than 1.5t?
Why u comparing Hybrid engine to 2.0T weirdo
Excellent review...
I went to Daytona Beach when I was 13...great memories.
Steve, were you comfy in the back seat? It my cheap but comfortable is more important IMO
It's certainly spacious but there are no HVAC vents on the back of the console, just one seatback pocket, a flacid armrest and no heated seats,
@@stevehammes yup. Honda ran out of money for the redesign😢
@@cisky1972 the touring comes with all of those features
@Brayden Rawson yikes! I believe that's the highest trim $$$. Well..for an Accord lover, reliability and "not so flashy" design is what attracts me. I rarely get back seat passengers anyway. Sport tri. Is the highest trim for me
Steve you mentioned loud operation interior noise. Did you mean road noise or the mechanical bits working?
Just a lack of sound deadening letting in road noise.
Is there a white noise app one can use on android auto or Apple carplay.😂 I love the Accord but Steve wasn't too excited on the level of comfort
@@stevehammes Thanks for the reply.
@Hans Defang Road noise is a long term issue with Hondas that they just won't fix. Been a problem for years.
The touring had insulated glass in front and every review says the touring is dead silent
I have no idea why Honda didn't offer the Clarity plug-in hybrid drive system in the Accord. I have a Clarity and the Accord is better looking with more back seat room.
I really liked the Clarity PHEV...even its quirky styling.
The Accord used to carry handsome, lean and athletic looks. This design looks like a fat slice of plain Jane tofu...
I liked the look of it in pictures when it first came out. Then I saw it in person and wasn't so thrilled. The wheels look too narrow and don't fill out the wheel wells at all. I don't like the over styled Hondas. But, this simple styling needs a little help.
I believe your comment about requiring 91 octane is incorrect. I would not have bought one if that were true. Funny that you found the interior noisy inside. I have the new Touring and it is WAY more quiet than the outgoing generation. Perhaps the Touring has some tweaks to quiet it down inside?
Recommended not required. It's right on the spec sheet. 91 octane
@@stevehammes Someone from big oil must have had input in writing the press kit. No mention of this in owners manual, fuel door or website.
Please be kind enough to highlight the 91 octane ‘recommendation, not requirement’.
I have read your link to the press kit, twice, and find no reference to octane ratings at all, while the owners manual for the car DOES say 87 pump octane will suffice.
It's right there in the engine specs . Can't miss it.
I must be blind
The problems I find with the 2023 Honda Accord: 1. No All Wheel Drive is available 2. No heated steering Wheel is available 3. No spare tire is available 4. No XM Radio. If a 2023 or 2024 car missing all of these features is fine for you, then get one. Hopefully, by the time 2025 comes around these deficiencies will be resolved. I hope someone from Honda reads this and decides to deal with these omissions.
Same trunk as the previous gen (10th gen) both have 16.7 ft³
Yeah I was comparing it to back in the day when it was compromised.
Great design. The rear sloping roof-line gives it strong station wagon vibes.
I personally dont like the styling but it somehow manages to look more upscale. Its just not for me, seems very basic
Honda does not require 91 octane fuel. They actually recommend "regular unleaded" on all of their cars.
Recommended not required. It's right on the spec sheet. 91 octane
Love it
This car is so bland it hurts. It looks like a stock photo of a generic car. Doesn’t mean it’s bad.
I thought about getting one of these. But..for the price, you don't get enough creature comforts and such. I paid 40k for my santa fe limited, it's not a hybrid but has every feature I want/need in a vehicle. This? No ventilated seats, interior looks and feels cheap, only fwd (obviously you could get a crv, but still has all the same 'issues'), etc. Yeah, only getting 20ish mpg kind of sucks, especially coming from a rav4 hybrid where I got 42+ mpg all day every day no matter what with absolutely no change to my spirited driving style. But, it's a trade off that is worth it to me for now. I'm going to keep the santa fe, and pick up a maverick XL hybrid for the fuel economy aspect. Even less creature comforts, but the interior doesn't actually seem cheap..and easily $10k cheaper than one of these, for basically the same fuel economy and much more versatility with the bed/being able to tow a small trailer/and the height.
Honda
Working hard to make each generation of cars more generic than the last one.
In 5 years, the Accord will just be a piece of looseleaf paper
Why do you say its loud inside, when every other reviewer say its dead silent pretty much? Guess its all suggestive
Most likey becasue a lot of other reviewers regurgitate what their peers say 😂
Premium gas, really?
Steve, you are the first video reviewer I've seen that mentioned that Honda is recommending the higher octane for the Accord. Huge fail and I'm more than a little surprised. The low HP rating wouldn't lead you to assume that at all. This really makes me rethink my purchase options. Shame, because I'm truly smitten with the new Accord.
It's recommended but not required for both the 1.5T and 2.0. Honda doesn't quote seperate output figures for various octanes nor do I know how it might affect MPG.
I downloaded the 2023 Accord Hybrid Owner's Manual... nowhere does it state that Honda recommends 91 octane for this car. Page 504 of the manual specifically states "87 octane or higher".
Don't fret it. It does not need higher octane. I believe the press release is in error. I have 1700 miles on mine. 87 octane only. 45mpg combined.
@@stevehoppenjan It’s not in error. Honda confirmed for both the Accord Hybrid and CR-V Hybrid.
Looks for 2023 Accord is too blend....Honda, take a look at 2023 Prius...for your inspiration....from all the edgy designers that work for you, this is the best you can do?
91 octane? Fr
The new Accord is extremely disappointing. Features and interior quality of an economy car in the compact segment. Combined with a firm-ish ride, heavier steering, and Honda's typical road noise, it's not worth your money. The CR-V is MUCH better, but unfortunately has even HEAVIER, dangerously unusable steering.
91 octane? really?
nope, 87 all the way
🤔It's not a CVT at all, 🤨check Your data.🤐
E-CVT. Absolutely is.
It sucks the new Accord is also the ugliest Accord ever 😞
What a design disaster 🤮