I can understand why not though. With the volume of boards they ship it just isn’t economically viable to ship anything other than factory standard switches. Makes it problematic for soldered boards for sure because if you are used to lubed switches you know how good they can feel and sound and the need to ‘fix’ them can be unbearable 🤣
the price is actually really competetive in comparison to other split keyboard. Additionally the keywell is the reason why hotswapping is not really an option here.
It’s very difficult to have hot swap with a curved key well. You would effectively need a separate pcb for each switch position I expect. Agree it would be great to have a board like this with hot swap though 👍
I have cherry brown switches on my KB at home and I like it, but I want something for the office. Do you think you can dampen the sound even more with a dynamat?
Yes, they are a little too light for me. Ended up selling that one and sticking with the whites. Clicky so not great in an office but think they work great in the Glove
@@benfrainuk cool thanks . I ordered a switch tester for the low profile switches and some key caps from moergo to see if I like the feel. I know I’ll like the feel of the 360 but my hands are smaller so maybe it’s worth the risk of going glove 80 haha
Yes, can be installed in pre-soldered. I added info in the Glove80 Discord discord.com/channels/877392805654306816/1026615764066783232/1146199174975598713
how pronounced the difference in the activation force? I could immediately tell that the stock reds are harder to press than Cherry MX blues, so I'm wondering, whether should I get Pro Reds instead. Would they be as easy to press as Cherry MX reds?
Been ages, but I feel I can answer, as someone who daily drives a 36 key layout, which is a fair bit more extreme than something like this: The reason is ergonomics. Having to stretch your hands and fingers to reach far keys leaves hand tired cramped and prone to RSI’s. Moving to a keyboard where every single key is within one key of the home row, you never stretch your hands again. It’s a pain to learn, as anything beyond letters has to be on layers which is a touch annoying at first, but once you settle in, it’s so good. As someone who programs as a hobby and is a math major writing copious amounts of LaTeX every single day, the ergonomics is incredible. I can type 6+ hours a day doing complex combinations of symbols and odd letters the whole way and my hands aren’t tired in the least when I’m done. It’s not for everyone, but for the enthusiasts into it, it’s truly amazing the difference it makes Not to mention in my case, because my keyboard is so absurdly tiny, I can carry it in my bag easily and have a full desktop class typing experience wherever, without hauling a big desktop keyboard with me. As a student who works in random places on random surfaces more often than I do at home, that’s an enormous bonus
@@Mcdude22 Would love to know how you configured your layers, especially given that you've been optimising with LaTeX and programming in mind. I still find full-keyboards more convenient than a crappy, ill-conceived layout (ie, the only ones I'm apparently capable of producing). I know some people recommend experimenting and iterating, but it's a terrific effort to get used to some layout, realise the symbol positioning sucks, change everything, get used to it again, realise there are five obvious swaps that would objectively reduce your misery, consider whether the cognitive overhead induced by those three-key combos to get to layer four-and-three-quarters is a reasonable trade-off or a poor design decision, realise one of the obvious swaps was a mistake, get used to it again, etc etc... (On a less important note, what keyboard do you use? I assume it's some DIY Corne build or some other such monstrosity? Wired or wireless?)
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I can't believe these premium keyboards are soldering on non-lubed linears.
I can understand why not though. With the volume of boards they ship it just isn’t economically viable to ship anything other than factory standard switches. Makes it problematic for soldered boards for sure because if you are used to lubed switches you know how good they can feel and sound and the need to ‘fix’ them can be unbearable 🤣
@@benfrainuk but at this price point?
the price is actually really competetive in comparison to other split keyboard.
Additionally the keywell is the reason why hotswapping is not really an option here.
Wow, this is much louder than I expected
We're you expecting linears to be quiet or that lubing + neoprene will dampen the sound? 🤔
Thank you for the comparison! Unfortunately, both sound way too loud for me. It's a shame because I love the concept!
I want to love this keyboard, but when I hear the sound … yuk …😔😔
i know right lol
Very interesting. I wouldn’t mind either, but it’s baffling why they would be soldered to the board like that.
It’s very difficult to have hot swap with a curved key well. You would effectively need a separate pcb for each switch position I expect. Agree it would be great to have a board like this with hot swap though 👍
I have cherry brown switches on my KB at home and I like it, but I want something for the office. Do you think you can dampen the sound even more with a dynamat?
Is that a hard operation to do ?
i don't like the pro-reds on the glove80. i feel like they need to be lubed better.
Do you ever get accidental actuation on the pros
Yes, they are a little too light for me. Ended up selling that one and sticking with the whites. Clicky so not great in an office but think they work great in the Glove
@@benfrainuk cool thanks . I ordered a switch tester for the low profile switches and some key caps from moergo to see if I like the feel. I know I’ll like the feel of the 360 but my hands are smaller so maybe it’s worth the risk of going glove 80 haha
Thanks. Is there a guide to adding neoprene? Can this be installed on pre-soldered versions?
Yes, can be installed in pre-soldered. I added info in the Glove80 Discord discord.com/channels/877392805654306816/1026615764066783232/1146199174975598713
how pronounced the difference in the activation force?
I could immediately tell that the stock reds are harder to press than Cherry MX blues, so I'm wondering, whether should I get Pro Reds instead. Would they be as easy to press as Cherry MX reds?
I think pro red chocs definitely feel easier than MX red, but that could be in part due to the reduced travel
First one sounds better
both sound awful
just like a 10 dollar keyboard from logitech lol
These sound sooo aweful like cheap plastic sound.
Why not just get a full keyboard
Been ages, but I feel I can answer, as someone who daily drives a 36 key layout, which is a fair bit more extreme than something like this:
The reason is ergonomics. Having to stretch your hands and fingers to reach far keys leaves hand tired cramped and prone to RSI’s. Moving to a keyboard where every single key is within one key of the home row, you never stretch your hands again. It’s a pain to learn, as anything beyond letters has to be on layers which is a touch annoying at first, but once you settle in, it’s so good. As someone who programs as a hobby and is a math major writing copious amounts of LaTeX every single day, the ergonomics is incredible. I can type 6+ hours a day doing complex combinations of symbols and odd letters the whole way and my hands aren’t tired in the least when I’m done.
It’s not for everyone, but for the enthusiasts into it, it’s truly amazing the difference it makes
Not to mention in my case, because my keyboard is so absurdly tiny, I can carry it in my bag easily and have a full desktop class typing experience wherever, without hauling a big desktop keyboard with me. As a student who works in random places on random surfaces more often than I do at home, that’s an enormous bonus
@@Mcdude22 Would love to know how you configured your layers, especially given that you've been optimising with LaTeX and programming in mind. I still find full-keyboards more convenient than a crappy, ill-conceived layout (ie, the only ones I'm apparently capable of producing).
I know some people recommend experimenting and iterating, but it's a terrific effort to get used to some layout, realise the symbol positioning sucks, change everything, get used to it again, realise there are five obvious swaps that would objectively reduce your misery, consider whether the cognitive overhead induced by those three-key combos to get to layer four-and-three-quarters is a reasonable trade-off or a poor design decision, realise one of the obvious swaps was a mistake, get used to it again, etc etc...
(On a less important note, what keyboard do you use? I assume it's some DIY Corne build or some other such monstrosity? Wired or wireless?)