Salaries went up drastically since this video came out. 1st year FO at a major now makes 120K and a captain all the way up to 300K+ a year (you top after 10 years in the company). It's now pretty easy to get into a major. In fact, I got hired on a wide body airliner at a major when I was 26 years old. I'm now 28
Just to add to this, my dad works for a major airline in the U.S. he is CA on the 737 and is making $265,000. His Buddy is a CA on the 787 and is making $320,000. I am currently finishing my CFI and my school starts instructors at $21 an hour. Due to the shortage of instructors, it isn't difficult to make $3,000 per month in your first few months. Regional airlines are starting FOs around $40 per hour with a guarantee of 75 paid hours per month. Plus there are signing bonuses that vary all over the place from $10,000 one time payment up to $23,000 every year for 3 years. Just thought I would share another front line experience!
I work for one of the big 3 airlines in USA. I'm a First Officer so I'm not making this, but a reserve 787 Captain here with only the 76 hour guarantee (no per diem, overtime or flying above guarantee) makes $25,000 a month which comes out to $300K/year on reserve. Line holders will obviously be making more.
Garrett Weaver Hey man serious question: Does your dad still enjoy flying? Also, how many years did it take to make his yearly pay now? Im in flight school now, thanks
How big is a pilots salary?? Big enough that you can have a big house, nice sized swimming pool and a fancy Porsche to drive around and still have a big chunk of change!
You may also need some extra money. Like to pay for your flight attendant girlfriend's house. alimony and child suppport for the ex-wife and your children, and money to start up the neew business to helppay for all htese extras.
That’s why you don’t pay for any ones house but your own, don’t get married / have children so there can’t possibly be any alimony or child support payments. Then any business that you do make money on, you can simply spend that money however you please.
I'm a private pilot with a regular job, I didn't become a commercial pilot because I learned early on through other jobs that travel for work is much less fun than travel for leisure, and being away from home comes at it's own costs. That being said, flying is wonderful, and so is travel.
Great video Mentour Pilot. May I just say that many European airlines using contracting agencies actually cover all of the expenses and often pay with a basic salary + per diems, instead of being paid by the hour. I'm in this case, everything is paid for, social security, pension, loss of licence, (full) salary during training, accomodation, transportation, renewal of licences, passport, airport parking, holidays, sick days, and the list goes on. One or two big players in Europe don't do this, but the rest do, for the most part. One more mention, I drive a cheap and very average car, most of my colleagues do too. That Porsche does look and sound very nice though. Fly safe, LFTFD
I seriously winder which Airline that use contracting agencies actually cover all the expenses except the two big players. Do you mind being more specific and maybe guide some wanna be pilots. In the end we are together in this
9 months later and still no helpful answer. Its one thing that the companies are out there and something else to be specific. We are no politicians here so i guess it wouldnt hurt to just advise someone or even help.
I like that you make it so transparent. In fact, you also make your income as a pilot transparent and not many people do that. Of course, the envious people come and make stupid comments about you having a pool and a Porsche, but they have no idea how much work, stress or additional income you have (RUclips, Patreon etc.)... and behind this additional income there is also work. But above all, these envious people are so negative because you show them that you can do what they can't do. Greetings from a small copter pilot 😃 😉 👍
What wasn't mentioned in the video is that you may also try getting trained through the military, if you're okay with that sort of thing. They pay you, you learn to fly, get lots of experience and generally, military pilots are rather well-regarded by airlines because you've learned to fly under stress. You would of course need type ratings and all that sort of thing but it's definitely a leg in the door!
Having followed your channel for some time now, I can see just how far your videos have come in terms of presentation/editing, thanks for your time Mentour, a huge inspiration to me!
You are the best advisor and aviator on RUclips! Hands down! Everything you do is so well put together and clear as crystal! No beating around the bush! With that said, I will be looking to starting flight training soon! The cost is very demoralizing, but I have hope! 😊
I had 3 weeks training as a cable technician for comcast and I make as much as a pilot just after a month of work (80k). I dont know why its advertised everywhere that comcast techs make only minimum wage, when in reality I am bringing in 2k per week (i am an independent contractor) thought I should share this
In the United States, different universities that have flight programs can actually get the 1500 hour requirement down to say 1000 hours. That 1200 hour to 1500 hour requirement was imposed as a recommendation from the NTSB after the Colgan Air regional crash in Buffalo, NY where they found that neither the captain nor the first officer slept in a bed the night before the flight. Yawns were even heard on the cockpit voice recorder. Sullenberger spoke about it essentially calling it ridiculous and that they just need to be paid better. The regional airlines deserve to be heavily criticized. They're are so many testimonies of regional airline pilots in the U.S that make so little they can't even get a place to sleep at night and end up in crash pads and the people at the regional airlines association deny that there is any problem. Horrible!
Don't you just love it when a government agency makes an assumption of what caused a plane to crash and then proceeds to impose a harsh law based on that false assumption?
Every time I went to the crew transit lounge there were always guys stretched out under blankets. Some had been there from 0400 after back of clock sim sessions.
+Timothy Chapman. An assumption ? The Colgan Air crash was the subject of a detailed NTSB enquiry. BOTH pilots made inappropriate responses to a mild flight upset. Fatigue was deduced to be the major contributory factor by experts in the field. As a result, modest changes were made to duty hours although I fear this is not enough. Perhaps you would like to have been a passenger on that flight, in which case you would be dead and unable to spew your uninformed garbage ?
pasoundman : Both the captain and first officer had over 2000 hours each so having a lot of hours don't contribute to safe flying. The FAA imposed unrealistic standards of minimum 1500 hours that will actually hurt air safety because either you have rich parent to pay for the 1500 hours or you borrow through the nose to get your hours. Then you get a job that pays 25K flying commuter. Now if you are 150K in debt, you work 2nd job when your are not flying to pay off the loan because 25k/year won't be enough. So when you are flying you havn't got that much sleep from your 2nd job but since the FAA rules are about flying hours, you had enough rest for the next flight. Oh your post is about dead passengers. So the knee jerk action will be more dangerous like the FAA mandated minimum 1500 hours.
The pilot and first officer reacted wrongly. The plane was beginning to stall and the captain pulled back on the stick while the first officer retracted the slats.
That's a good way to actually damage your health. They are VERY salty. I'm used to salty foods but even my stomach can't tolerate them after a few days. I don't know why people like college students don't try to search out other options than ramen noodles 20-25X a week. Yes, I've known a few who have nothing but ramen stuffed in their food bins when I was in college.
The deeper problem is that many if not most pilots LOVE to fly. They will accept lower wages for quality of life or a larger jet. It's a complicated scenario and mentor gets it right. Keep up the great videos!
Don't forget guys to get your 4-year degrees. The 4-year degrees will get you into United, Delta and Southwest. The degree does not include the 1,500 mandated flight hours. 4 year aviation universities do not have flight schools. That will be an additional $80K on top of a $100K tuition. Without the degree, the only route is American Airlines and they still prefer those with 4-year degrees, even though it's not stated in their basic qualifications. They are competitive with thousands, if not millions, of applicants trying to get in. I wanted to be a pilot, but ended up going into Accounting/Finance and will most likely try to go for a CFO position for the airlines. I love the aviation industry.
Judged on where you are sitting right now, I can make the conclusion that it is totally worth it! I'll be flying a Cessna this summer and going to a summer camp. Thanks so much for inspiring me to becoming a pilot, because I know it's one of the best jobs out there. Stay fantastic Mentour!
In the U.S., $15,000 / year ($288 / month) is below poverty line. You will need room mates, because it's extremely difficult to find a rent for less than $800 in rural areas, and $1200 in major cities. Doesn't leave much for food and clothes, and leaves very little indeed for beer. Maybe a six-pack / month. lol
It seems worth it in the long run. You start out in alot of debt and working a not so fun job, then after a couple years you end up making loads of money, travelling and literally getting paid to go on holiday ect.. Yeah, pilot seems like a good job to me honestly.
Hi mentour pilot I'm a 11 year old and ever since a I was 4 yrs old I wanted to became pilot,so when I was 7 years old I've been searching about being a pilot and I really wanted to become a pilot and also I've been watching documentaries about it so when I have heard about your channel I've been watching you ever since and I also hope you'll have more flight hours to come and also more contents to come so wish you luck mentour pilot -yours truly, No.1 biggest fan
Hey Mentour, I was a passenger on a flight from Girona to Baden-Baden thanks for bringing me home safely. PS: about to start flight school, finished my A-levels:)
Paxion202 lol 😂 just dont clean airport or plane windowz as you'll regret giving up on your dream. or u could clean £100K worth of windowz and fund your pilot training? after dedication its always about the money! but a worthy investment
When I lived in the UK my neighbor was a Captain for TUI and I don't know how much he earned but I do know he had a nice house and a new top of the range BMW/Audi parked on his driveway. I now live in the States, and here I know some owner operator truck drivers make a LOT of money, more than most pilots, but obviously they lack the status and have to work a LOT more hours than pilots. I know which I'd choose.
There is huge demand in Canada right now I'm hearing of regionals recruiting with 700 hours and even considering straight from school, and talk on the grapevine of captains making over $500000 CAD
A V oh thanks for setting the record straight. Better tell my instructor who has an interview with westjet encore in august with 700 hours not to bother going... I only stated what I had heard from actual pilots not what I've read on some forum
A V I would also direct you to regional charter north caribou air who recruit right seat on their multi props at 250 hours. It's on their website they cover line training in exchange for a bond
In the US, entry into Commercial Aviation is very expensive when you factor in flight school, ratings,flight hours etc. A CFI is another option if you can find a fixed base flight school that needs instructors. Most of the Airline pilots that I know went the Military Aviation route. Air Force, Navy etc. If the Regional Airlines are so desperate for pilots, maybe they should consider funding a flight school to train their pilots. It would be a way to ease the pilots shortage and attract more applicants.
It's not possible to go directly from the flying school to a job in an airline company in all European states. My flying instructors in a Scandinavian country had to accumulate flying hours, I don't remember how many, but it was a lot, before they could begin as e.g. a cargo pilot in a major European company. They flew for much less than I paid per hour to take my PPL, and they did it for years. You really need to be enthusiastic about flying to survive this year long period of low budget living. I really admire those guys who managed to turn their passion it into a decent living.
And now is a great time to fly for them, they’re low on pilots and I heard they were willing to train up pilots. They’re my country’s airline, so if I actually was able to become a pilot I would most likely fly for them.
The amount of money that a pilot gets is determined by what the pilot's union has negotiated for them in the last contract. Most of those contracts are renegotiable after a couple of years and then their salary can go up, go down, or the pilots might go on strike. Eastern pilots were on strike for over 2 years with no pay coming in. Then after that, the company went chapter 7 bankrupt and out of business and with many pilots out of work.
The answer is 0-15k while you train / work for regional airlines. 25-50 while you gain experience hours. 50-95 as a Captain. 130-250k for a large airline Captain. OR As little as the company can get away with for someone of your qualifications - minus factor X being the laws of supply and demand.
The Captain who flew the SilkAir Flight 185 came from the Air Force (had a long career there before transiting over to the airlines), so no student debt there. While it's true that he did lost some money in the stock market, it is unfair to assume that he would crash the plane intentionally along with so many passengers, crew, etc, just to get an insurance payout to cover it. The NTSB report was somewhat inconclusive to what was the main cause of the accident. If you do read the final report, there are some factors like survivor guilt from his Air Force time (jets in formation flying crashed into mountains and he managed to survive (iirc, his plane did not fly into the mountain)), questionable decision to buy/upgrade his insurance days before the accident and some other factors noted in the report. 1 interesting theory which wasnt fully explored in the investigation was a possible mechanical fault in the tail section which would meant that the Captain's action of pushing the plane's nose down, was the correct solution to that fault. That issue/problem with the tail section happened in other aircraft and was a known issue and the correct action in that case was to push the nose down. Some of the facts in here might be a tiny bit off as it's been years since I study that report.
I work in IT and I make less than what he quoted for some of the low tier instructor jobs, and I still have to deal with all the idiots and the boring meetings. mfw.
Joshual2000 Depends what you do. on contract I know people that work for £895 a day. Your field of expertise in IT can mean you choose to work as a contractor to earn more. But just as with any other job this comes at a risk of having no work and no sick pay etc.
It's about COMMITMENT.!! Stay focused and the returns will come back to you. If you do not have the love for flying or the commitment - get an IT job. As always - awesome video - very informative.
Unfortunately there are no cadet school in the US. Pilots either came out from military or private flying school/university plus 1,500 hours. It took 250 hours to be an instructor making $20/hr at 20 hours week. So it would take about 2 years to full fill 1,500 hours and spent close to $100,000+ before hiring into regional making $20,000 - 25,000 year. One gets promote to captain in about 5 years and make $60 ,000. A 10 year regional captain makes $80-90,000. A regional captain may have to wait 10 years to be a major first officer makes $60 - 70,000 to start and $120,000 in 5 years.
I think you are missing one very typical career paths for pilots in the USA. In fact, of the three airline pilots I personally know, every single one of them took this path. They join the Airforce, Navy or Air National guard. Get their flight certifications and hours through military service. Do ONE full contract then leave and enter civilian airline work. They have to get their type ratings and all that, but they will be in the 2000~3000 flight hours range when they leave so that is not the issue. Also, they are not getting paid McDonalds salary during the decade they spend in military service and they don't pay for flight school. BTW, they are not all combat pilots. One of the guys I know flew the C-141 then the C-17. He never flew for a regional; I think he went straight to what was (then) Northwest Airlines, now Delta. The airline even let him stay in the reserves. Another thing is, I think you are way off on the wages. US regional pilots start at about 60K a year and yes that is bad. It is half what a police officer makes. Nobody makes 25~30K flying any kind of a jet. 25~30K is what you make working full-time at McDonalds!
You must serve you're agreed military time, this could be 8-10 years and get through all the flight schools that they will have you attend and pass. All military pilots are officers so you must have successfully completed 2 years of college with scientific courses. Then if you make that, you probably won't know what type plane they will have you flying in the military. When when you get out, you will probablly have to get reetrained to fly one of the commercial pllanes that the airlinles use.
The C-17 and C-141 are both military cargo planes only and are not flown by civilians. If you wanat a crossover plane, try the 767 which is now used as a tanker plane.
Can you switch from Europe to the USA easily? Like get a European salary as a first officer and then go to the USA to make absolute bank after a couple years’ experience?
That's a cheap way to get a pilot's license without having to pay for it yourself. Except for all the time you have to agree to be in the service flying for the government. Many of the commercial pilots were ex-military pilots. If you are going to join to get your license, don't go in the Air Force. Anybody can takeoff and land a plane on a stable runway. Be the best pilot. Be a Navy pilot. They can land both on runways and bobbing aircraft carriers. Compare the Blue Angles to the Thunderbirds. Be Proud - Be a Naval Aviator!
Very nice channel. Very interesting too. I know somebody who's a pilot with KLM, first he flew as an f/o on Boeing 747's ,but now he's a triple 7 f/o, since they are outphasing the 747 with KLM. Some years ago he offered me a flight with a smaller airplane, a small prop-airplane, and i had a blast while sitting next to him as we flew over my house, my parents house and that of my late grandmother. Much different ofcourse than flying a big commercial airliner, but it was great fun to sit next to a pilot and seeing what it takes to actually fly an aircraft. Flew in airliners as well ofcourse, but as a passenger. But this flight in this small KLM prop was so much more fun.Listening through the headset to all the conversations, looking to all the switches and dials, looking what it actually takes to fly an airplane.. it is just great! I am never going to be a pilot, but i have great respect for guys and girls who fly airplanes. So much responsability and professionalism. it just blows my mind every time
No offense mate but the captain payscale for US major captains a little outdated. At least with Delta, under their new contract, a captain can easily cap out at 400,000 to 450,000 especially when taking into account green and white slips. Edit: As an update a delta captain hourly rate on a 747 is 330 (before raise from new contract)
i just cant belive all these numbers are so high, i mean if 1 customer pays 100$ for his flight ticket and theres 100 passangers, thats 10k, and theres much more than the pilot thats getting paid, each flight ticket with a captain cost 10k each or what? ofcourse i understand also its based on how long you fly but even with 500$ a ticket it would be 50k, and if only the pilot is gonna get his 400k years salary thats 8 trips and 1 guy is paid for a year meanwhile the cost of the airplane, gas, engineers checking the plane, people updating the flight site getting customers into right places, engineers at the airport making the system of tickets and stuff work etc etc etc all need to be paid by your 100-500$ flight ticket
You guys should be on 500k per year. The training and responsibility is massive. You have a brain full of schematics, physics, engineering, mathematics, management, physical endurance, professionalism. I missed stuff out I think. By the way, politicians are useless.
Thanks Captain. Good series and great timing. My son is a junior in high school and is considering a career as a pilot. Any advice on approach to training? Our local community college has an aviation program where I did my private ground school. They do not offer flight training or ATP but he could do his private, instrument and commercial ground there. Four year colleges with ATP programs seem like a good way to go but tuition seems quite high.
In Italy, for example, a pilot who gets to fly 750 block hours and get paid 90 euros each, has a gross salary of 67.500 euros. If then you remove the % of taxes from the gross salary that's around 37% of it, a well paid pilot has a salary of just 3500€ per month. Also, in italy, you can't save money from your salary and invest it on property because you will get a lot of taxes per each one
Hungry Guy it's 1500 hours total time. however you'll also need Turbine time, Instrument time, multi engine time, cross country time, and all that jazz. you cant just do 1500 100$ hamburger hops and go apply to an airline.
Well, you could do it that way if you wanted to. I been at this for almost 43 years now, I fly mostly helicopters now, or freight in airplanes. You are going to need some twin time, back when I was young, you have to be at least 23 to get an ATP, I had mine for 38 years now. You needed 500 to 1000 hours of multi time alone just to complete. I remember interviewing with a commuter airline that was flying Twin Otters but would be phasing them out, I was the lowest time guy in the room, the only civilian trained pilot, everybody else was Air Force or Navy and I was the lowest time guy in both total time and turbine time, and I had 6000 hours in my logbook at the time. There is the minimum hire times and then there are the competitive hire times, it all depends on how tall the stack of resumes are on the Cheif pilots desk! What you do is you start off as a flight instructor and build time. Then once you get to that 1500- 2000 hours in your log, the next step would be a freight hauling job in a twin of some sort, you do that for a year and get really good at instrument flying, then you go to the airlines. Lots of guys bust the interview sim ride because they are not really current flying instruments. I will tell you this, it's hard work and a lot of it is thankless too. Is it doable yeah it is, but you will need to get your ducks in a row, you get out of flight school with 190 to 250 hours, you should have and idea of where you are going to go, I tell guys in Flight school make a list of all the low time pilot jobs you see advertised and start making phone calls and putting a resume together before you take your final check rides. Have a bag packed and a reliable car.
Are you talking single engine or double engine Cessna. The course where you study the engines must match the number of engines currently in the plane you are flying.
I find it shocking that airlines in Europe are essentially sourcing pilots from the gig economy. I know this video is old so I don't know if this is still going on but in the UK at least this is being outlawed in my industry (driving HGVs). I hate this way of working. If companies need pilots, drivers or indeed any employee, then they should employ them, and respect our hard-won worker's rights, and pay them appropriately. And also pay the appropriate taxes Anything else is nothing short of exploitation. (and tax avoidance). This applies whether you are an airline pilot a truck driver a cleaner and everything in between.
I really appreciate the honesty shown in these kind of videos, getting to the top on the aviation world is really tough and unless you’re truly passionate about it, you’re most likely gonna quit midway, which can be truly devastating. There’s always also the risk of running into unexpected health issues that might prevent you from passing the medical Class 1 test every year, leading again to catastrophic consequences. There can also be a pandemic and you can lose your job, etc etc. I cannot stress it enough how being a pilot isn’t at all the comfortable and luxurious world it used to be, those days are long gone for good. On these days, unless you really enjoy flying, it honestly isn’t advisable to take these risks, which is really sad, but hopefully it will also contribute to a better atmosphere in the cockpits. It’s also advisable to become financially independent from the aviation world to minimize these risks, but that ofc isn’t easy, and it definitely isn’t for everyone.
Hey Mentour! I am 12 years old and want to be a pilot on the B737-800NG. I live in the home country of Ryanair (Ireland). I have been recently looking up flight school in Ireland. I know what airline you work for as I saw the career video and dont worry I wont say it. If you feel I'm violating the way that you dont discuss your airline delete this comment. Just wanted to know was it hard to get into your airline and if you failed application process a few times? Thanks
Cian Ryan Well it is hard to say if it will be hard to join the company in 7 years for example. When i was 12 i wanted to become a pilot and now with 25 i'm working for the same company. Try to be good in school , fly PMDG on FSX save money after school and dont give up your dream than you will be a pilot one time.
Cian Ryan make sure you study maths well and when you go to secondary school do science subjects like physics. study hard, save hard and persevere. good luck mo chairde
Cian Ryan sounds like you love aviation. I have no doubt you will reach your goal, except the model plane you reference, may be replaced by a newer version when you are ready for airline life💖
Start saving for the flight school. The airline isn't just going to hire you and send you to flight school for free. You should show up, on day one, with flight certificate in hand. You're way too lyoung to apply now, anyway.
A friend of mine is a captain for an international airline. He was recently on call (as required as part of his job) and did 6 long haul segments over a two week period and was paid 32700€ for the fortnight. I believe he is on an older wage agreement than most pilots today tho
I did my ppl one hr at the time. Even worked with UBER to pay for the training. I'm 47years old. A bit old to make it to an airline so I purchased and old Piper tomahawk and I having fun with it.
And i’m from Saudi Arabia and I got a scholarship from Saudi Airlines to study Aviation in the US. We don’t need to built hours to work we just need the license and our first salary is $5,500 which is 66K a year. I don’t know if it’s average or below but it’s decent for a graduate student.
In the United States contract pilots are common for charter business jets. Usually need around 2,000-4,000 hours. Airlines are a bit less at 1,500 hours.
Seems to me that the 1500 hours is somewhat arbitrary considering that an airline pilot is flying a jet that travels hundreds of miles per hour while a flight instructor is maybe flying an aircraft that can do a little over one hundred. I think a better rule would be to require a pilot to demonstrate that he/she can control a jet at speeds, first in an FAA-approved simulator, then in a real aircraft with an experienced pilot ready to take over at a moment's notice. From what I understand, a jet is a lot easier to over-stress than a 172, right?
jawel, als je net als mij op de markt werkt, dan kan je 85 euro per dag krijgen (ongeveer 13 uur per dag werken) en ik werk alleen zaterdags dus 340 per maand alleen zaterdagen
$120-150K for working merely 20 hours a week with auto pilot doing most of the flying............awesome job!! A little grind in the beginning 4-5 years but as Captain said, once you make it to the cockpit of the majors, you have made it.
Amit KP Like in lots of other jobs requiring an extensive education, the payment is not only for doing your job. It is for being able to handle exceptional situations. And if you fail at that, you are out. May happen after 1 year, 5 years, even never if you are lucky.
That's very true. Especially when safety of hundreds of others is on line. Same as police officers, it matters when the "heated" situation arrives, then all the training and experience is what counts.
The requirement from the FAA is that if you earn a bachelors degree with a major in aviation, you only need 1000 flight hours to be hired by an airline. Military pilots need 750 and with an associates degree in aviation you need 1250 flight hours.
Is it easy to separate the average pilots form the great ones? I would think that there would be a big element of luck, even bad luck that is handled well. Doing well in the sim probably doesn't always translate to real life when the stress changes from passing the test to surviving and having other lives in your hands.
Qucik yes/no question: When your landing (with autothrottle) and you need to put the throttle to idle. Can you just take the throttle and move it backwards or do you have to turn off autothrottle on the AP panel first and then move the throttle backwards?
In some Asian airlines the pilots can get bonded for a number of years in exchange for the pilot license - Singapore Airlines typically bond pilots for 7 years and these years aren't paid well at all.
The chances of failing miserably and going broke is just way too high to risk the time becoming a pilot. I believe there's more shattered dreams than success stories.
Probably, but you can decide on relevant safety precautions to avoid that happening to you. Avoid large debt for example, do proper tests before starting your training etc.
"I believe there's more shattered dreams than success stories." Unemployment, for pilots jobs, amongst pilot in EU is 15%. So there is probably more successful stories than shattered dreams.
First thing about wanting to be a pilot. You'll have to like traveling a lot. I read some piolets quit in 2 months because they can not get used to being away that long.
I always like your videos dude! Great jargon busting info for pilot wannabes- I find it easy to follow as you have a logical approach and make undeniable points. Thanks a bunch
A friend of the family was a pilot for South African Airways and he flew the first Boeing 747 purchased by SAA back from Everett in 1971. Don't think he earned particularly much money though.
If I were to go to air force for conscription, do I have an advantage in getting to be a pilot afterwards? If so, what would the difference between having an air force background vs not having an air force background?
None. Becoming a pilot in the air force is like achieving any otherAir Force job except you have to be healthier smarter and selected from among all the other people seeking a pilot's job. Oh, and pilots are all officers so you must have at least 2 successful years of college completed when you apply.
when you get your PPL. But if you mean for major airlines like Delta, United, etc... that's when you have thousands of hours and experience flying regional airlines (which you can fly at 1500 hours)
I believe I can fly I believe I can make a dime I think about it everytime I fly Don those stripes and fly away I don't wanna be poor I see me running through Embry-Riddle's door I believe I can fly No more ramen noodles Away I fly, toodles!
Salaries went up drastically since this video came out. 1st year FO at a major now makes 120K and a captain all the way up to 300K+ a year (you top after 10 years in the company). It's now pretty easy to get into a major. In fact, I got hired on a wide body airliner at a major when I was 26 years old. I'm now 28
Regional still bad?
wow 26 thats incredible you just set my new goal lol
@@SneakyCaleb regionals in the US are now 90-100k starting
Just to add to this, my dad works for a major airline in the U.S. he is CA on the 737 and is making $265,000. His Buddy is a CA on the 787 and is making $320,000. I am currently finishing my CFI and my school starts instructors at $21 an hour. Due to the shortage of instructors, it isn't difficult to make $3,000 per month in your first few months. Regional airlines are starting FOs around $40 per hour with a guarantee of 75 paid hours per month. Plus there are signing bonuses that vary all over the place from $10,000 one time payment up to $23,000 every year for 3 years. Just thought I would share another front line experience!
265k for a 737 Captain?! Wow that's a 777 Captain's salary here in Canada.
I actually highly doubt that those numbers are correct. Don't always believe what all people say on here.
I work for one of the big 3 airlines in USA. I'm a First Officer so I'm not making this, but a reserve 787 Captain here with only the 76 hour guarantee (no per diem, overtime or flying above guarantee) makes $25,000 a month which comes out to $300K/year on reserve. Line holders will obviously be making more.
emb145flyer that's one thing I forgot to mention, both my Dad and his friend are line holders.
Garrett Weaver Hey man serious question: Does your dad still enjoy flying? Also, how many years did it take to make his yearly pay now? Im in flight school now, thanks
I got distracted by the inflatable shark on the pool.
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I was looking at all the things in the background that might indicate where the video is being filmed.
Me too
Same.
What really I didn't got distracted even didn't noticed hah
How big is a pilots salary??
Big enough that you can have a big house, nice sized swimming pool and a fancy Porsche to drive around and still have a big chunk of change!
You may also need some extra money. Like to pay for your flight attendant girlfriend's house. alimony and child suppport for the ex-wife and your children, and money to start up the neew business to helppay for all htese extras.
That’s why you don’t pay for any ones house but your own, don’t get married / have children so there can’t possibly be any alimony or child support payments. Then any business that you do make money on, you can simply spend that money however you please.
Only after spending 70k just to get the ratings, then grinding hard for about 15 years... it's not fun.
The Merovingian sounds like college
That’s a small as pool
I'm a private pilot with a regular job, I didn't become a commercial pilot because I learned early on through other jobs that travel for work is much less fun than travel for leisure, and being away from home comes at it's own costs.
That being said, flying is wonderful, and so is travel.
Great video Mentour Pilot.
May I just say that many European airlines using contracting agencies actually cover all of the expenses and often pay with a basic salary + per diems, instead of being paid by the hour.
I'm in this case, everything is paid for, social security, pension, loss of licence, (full) salary during training, accomodation, transportation, renewal of licences, passport, airport parking, holidays, sick days, and the list goes on.
One or two big players in Europe don't do this, but the rest do, for the most part.
One more mention, I drive a cheap and very average car, most of my colleagues do too. That Porsche does look and sound very nice though.
Fly safe,
LFTFD
I seriously winder which Airline that use contracting agencies actually cover all the expenses except the two big players. Do you mind being more specific and maybe guide some wanna be pilots. In the end we are together in this
I wonder too which those two big players are.
hello
excusme if anyone who dont have enough money to pay flight training fee. so is there any other way to fulfuil his dream.
Khan Jan join the military and get free paid training
9 months later and still no helpful answer. Its one thing that the companies are out there and something else to be specific. We are no politicians here so i guess it wouldnt hurt to just advise someone or even help.
Finally, honest information about salaries. Use the same pool for discussing ocean ditching.
haha
I like that you make it so transparent. In fact, you also make your income as a pilot transparent and not many people do that. Of course, the envious people come and make stupid comments about you having a pool and a Porsche, but they have no idea how much work, stress or additional income you have (RUclips, Patreon etc.)... and behind this additional income there is also work. But above all, these envious people are so negative because you show them that you can do what they can't do.
Greetings from a small copter pilot 😃 😉 👍
What wasn't mentioned in the video is that you may also try getting trained through the military, if you're okay with that sort of thing. They pay you, you learn to fly, get lots of experience and generally, military pilots are rather well-regarded by airlines because you've learned to fly under stress. You would of course need type ratings and all that sort of thing but it's definitely a leg in the door!
I really like your vids, you are a great orator, clear ideas, right to the point. The people that has chance to work with you, sure are very lucky.
Having followed your channel for some time now, I can see just how far your videos have come in terms of presentation/editing, thanks for your time Mentour, a huge inspiration to me!
You are the best advisor and aviator on RUclips! Hands down! Everything you do is so well put together and clear as crystal! No beating around the bush! With that said, I will be looking to starting flight training soon! The cost is very demoralizing, but I have hope! 😊
"150 thousand... over... 200 thos---"
I get paid to fly planes?
"Yes"
Where do I sign up
I'm still young like 4 years away from Flight school and your videos seriously helps me a lot :) Please never stop making them.
I'm probably about 8, 9 or 10 years away lol
@V. M. bruh you probably don't even no what flaps do
V. M. Ever heard of loans? Or joining the Air Force?
I had 3 weeks training as a cable technician for comcast and I make as much as a pilot just after a month of work (80k). I dont know why its advertised everywhere that comcast techs make only minimum wage, when in reality I am bringing in 2k per week (i am an independent contractor)
thought I should share this
In the United States, different universities that have flight programs can actually get the 1500 hour requirement down to say 1000 hours. That 1200 hour to 1500 hour requirement was imposed as a recommendation from the NTSB after the Colgan Air regional crash in Buffalo, NY where they found that neither the captain nor the first officer slept in a bed the night before the flight. Yawns were even heard on the cockpit voice recorder. Sullenberger spoke about it essentially calling it ridiculous and that they just need to be paid better. The regional airlines deserve to be heavily criticized. They're are so many testimonies of regional airline pilots in the U.S that make so little they can't even get a place to sleep at night and end up in crash pads and the people at the regional airlines association deny that there is any problem. Horrible!
Don't you just love it when a government agency makes an assumption of what caused a plane to crash and then proceeds to impose a harsh law based on that false assumption?
Every time I went to the crew transit lounge there were always guys stretched out under blankets. Some had been there from 0400 after back of clock sim sessions.
+Timothy Chapman. An assumption ? The Colgan Air crash was the subject of a detailed NTSB enquiry. BOTH pilots made inappropriate responses to a mild flight upset. Fatigue was deduced to be the major contributory factor by experts in the field. As a result, modest changes were made to duty hours although I fear this is not enough. Perhaps you would like to have been a passenger on that flight, in which case you would be dead and unable to spew your uninformed garbage ?
pasoundman : Both the captain and first officer had over 2000 hours each so having a lot of hours don't contribute to safe flying. The FAA imposed unrealistic standards of minimum 1500 hours that will actually hurt air safety because either you have rich parent to pay for the 1500 hours or you borrow through the nose to get your hours. Then you get a job that pays 25K flying commuter. Now if you are 150K in debt, you work 2nd job when your are not flying to pay off the loan because 25k/year won't be enough. So when you are flying you havn't got that much sleep from your 2nd job but since the FAA rules are about flying hours, you had enough rest for the next flight. Oh your post is about dead passengers. So the knee jerk action will be more dangerous like the FAA mandated minimum 1500 hours.
The pilot and first officer reacted wrongly. The plane was beginning to stall and the captain pulled back on the stick while the first officer retracted the slats.
In North America prepare to eat Ramen noodles for a LONG time. By the end of your career, you could probably buy the company making Ramen noodles.
That's a good way to actually damage your health. They are VERY salty. I'm used to salty foods but even my stomach can't tolerate them after a few days. I don't know why people like college students don't try to search out other options than ramen noodles 20-25X a week. Yes, I've known a few who have nothing but ramen stuffed in their food bins when I was in college.
......when the joke goes right over your head
Tiny Rick true
largol33t1 r/woooosh
That's hilarious!
The deeper problem is that many if not most pilots LOVE to fly.
They will accept lower wages for quality of life or a larger jet.
It's a complicated scenario and mentor gets it right.
Keep up the great videos!
Who is on a marathon of mentour
You
Me, lol during covid, like 3 hours now, not stopping, bye
Don't forget guys to get your 4-year degrees. The 4-year degrees will get you into United, Delta and Southwest. The degree does not include the 1,500 mandated flight hours. 4 year aviation universities do not have flight schools. That will be an additional $80K on top of a $100K tuition. Without the degree, the only route is American Airlines and they still prefer those with 4-year degrees, even though it's not stated in their basic qualifications. They are competitive with thousands, if not millions, of applicants trying to get in. I wanted to be a pilot, but ended up going into Accounting/Finance and will most likely try to go for a CFO position for the airlines. I love the aviation industry.
I'm glad to see that someone goes into a salary question. I found out, the hard way, that it's very unseemly to ask. At least in The Netherlands.
Judged on where you are sitting right now, I can make the conclusion that it is totally worth it! I'll be flying a Cessna this summer and going to a summer camp. Thanks so much for inspiring me to becoming a pilot, because I know it's one of the best jobs out there. Stay fantastic Mentour!
your a smart man and someone to look up to, keep up good vids man
In the U.S., $15,000 / year ($288 / month) is below poverty line. You will need room mates, because it's extremely difficult to find a rent for less than $800 in rural areas, and $1200 in major cities. Doesn't leave much for food and clothes, and leaves very little indeed for beer. Maybe a six-pack / month. lol
Now I just need £100K to do all the training....
No you live with your parents while training then whilse being a instructor pay bad your fees. Win win you get your hours and pay the training fee
Jamie Wilson Work hard and focus on other subjects because some flight schools give free tuition for a few lucky students
you can do it for half of that
Huh? If I were to do it here (Scotland) it would only cost me like £70K including a type licence (Assuming it costs £30K) so...
If you can do it at that cost full time I would be surprised. I know part time (modular) is cheaper.
It seems worth it in the long run. You start out in alot of debt and working a not so fun job, then after a couple years you end up making loads of money, travelling and literally getting paid to go on holiday ect.. Yeah, pilot seems like a good job to me honestly.
I had a teacher that was talking about when he was a pilot and his last pay was 12.800 dollars and in Swedish it is 128.000 kr just in a month
Hi mentour pilot I'm a 11 year old and ever since a I was 4 yrs old I wanted to became pilot,so when I was 7 years old I've been searching about being a pilot and I really wanted to become a pilot and also I've been watching documentaries about it so when I have heard about your channel I've been watching you ever since and I also hope you'll have more flight hours to come and also more contents to come so wish you luck mentour pilot
-yours truly,
No.1 biggest fan
Yes. I see now that you do what you do because you LOVE it. A special type of person can only do this job.
Hey Mentour, I was a passenger on a flight from Girona to Baden-Baden thanks for bringing me home safely. PS: about to start flight school, finished my A-levels:)
I'm poor i can't afford to go to a flying school, so now my dream is to become a window cleaner 😞
Paxion202 lol 😂 just dont clean airport or plane windowz as you'll regret giving up on your dream. or u could clean £100K worth of windowz and fund your pilot training? after dedication its always about the money! but a worthy investment
Paxion202 dude get a loan
Paxion202 tgats what i am gonna do
Ironic that you say you are poor but sent that on either a computer or an iPad AND have a descent intro on your channel...
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When I lived in the UK my neighbor was a Captain for TUI and I don't know how much he earned but I do know he had a nice house and a new top of the range BMW/Audi parked on his driveway. I now live in the States, and here I know some owner operator truck drivers make a LOT of money, more than most pilots, but obviously they lack the status and have to work a LOT more hours than pilots. I know which I'd choose.
There is huge demand in Canada right now I'm hearing of regionals recruiting with 700 hours and even considering straight from school, and talk on the grapevine of captains making over $500000 CAD
CaptainMav Bullshit !! , in Canada you need at least 1500 hours!!
A V oh thanks for setting the record straight. Better tell my instructor who has an interview with westjet encore in august with 700 hours not to bother going... I only stated what I had heard from actual pilots not what I've read on some forum
A V I would also direct you to regional charter north caribou air who recruit right seat on their multi props at 250 hours. It's on their website they cover line training in exchange for a bond
@@AV-kc5wr Wrong
@@CaptainMav Don't listen to A V, they are incorrect. Regionals are hiring pilots at around 750 - 1000 hours. Source: My Class 2 Flight instructor
In the US, entry into Commercial Aviation is very expensive when you factor in flight school, ratings,flight hours etc. A CFI is another option if you can find a fixed base flight school that needs instructors. Most of the Airline pilots that I know went the Military Aviation route. Air Force, Navy etc. If the Regional Airlines are so desperate for pilots, maybe they should consider funding a flight school to train their pilots. It would be a way to ease the pilots shortage and attract more applicants.
I love how casually he throws $80,000 dollars around like it's nothing.
Where i live, apartment rent is $35000 a year for a one bedroom.
It's not possible to go directly from the flying school to a job in an airline company in all European states. My flying instructors in a Scandinavian country had to accumulate flying hours, I don't remember how many, but it was a lot, before they could begin as e.g. a cargo pilot in a major European company. They flew for much less than I paid per hour to take my PPL, and they did it for years. You really need to be enthusiastic about flying to survive this year long period of low budget living. I really admire those guys who managed to turn their passion it into a decent living.
Qantas pilots get a average of 380,000$ a year!
Mentour Pilot yessss
Mentour Pilot A A380 captain gets 450,000$ a year
how many for experiance for get this salare please ?
And now is a great time to fly for them, they’re low on pilots and I heard they were willing to train up pilots. They’re my country’s airline, so if I actually was able to become a pilot I would most likely fly for them.
The amount of money that a pilot gets is determined by what the pilot's union has negotiated for them in the last contract. Most of those contracts are renegotiable after a couple of years and then their salary can go up, go down, or the pilots might go on strike. Eastern pilots were on strike for over 2 years with no pay coming in. Then after that, the company went chapter 7 bankrupt and out of business and with many pilots out of work.
Nice video! Gotta love REAL numbers.
Great video! keep up the good work :)
The answer is 0-15k while you train / work for regional airlines.
25-50 while you gain experience hours.
50-95 as a Captain.
130-250k for a large airline Captain.
OR
As little as the company can get away with for someone of your qualifications - minus factor X being the laws of supply and demand.
I think the pilot on silkair flight 185 crashed the plane because he lost over 1 million (don't know the currency) on the stock market
They have to gamble to pay off the flying student debt.
The Captain who flew the SilkAir Flight 185 came from the Air Force (had a long career there before transiting over to the airlines), so no student debt there.
While it's true that he did lost some money in the stock market, it is unfair to assume that he would crash the plane intentionally along with so many passengers, crew, etc, just to get an insurance payout to cover it. The NTSB report was somewhat inconclusive to what was the main cause of the accident. If you do read the final report, there are some factors like survivor guilt from his Air Force time (jets in formation flying crashed into mountains and he managed to survive (iirc, his plane did not fly into the mountain)), questionable decision to buy/upgrade his insurance days before the accident and some other factors noted in the report. 1 interesting theory which wasnt fully explored in the investigation was a possible mechanical fault in the tail section which would meant that the Captain's action of pushing the plane's nose down, was the correct solution to that fault. That issue/problem with the tail section happened in other aircraft and was a known issue and the correct action in that case was to push the nose down. Some of the facts in here might be a tiny bit off as it's been years since I study that report.
A US legacy senior FO (10 years) makes $200-300K/year depending on the company and how much they work.
I'll stick with plumbing. Pays 130k per year, benefits, pension, etc and I don't have to worry about crashing. :P
Well you obviously don’t know what’s happening in the real world.
@@kalebbagrowicz3648 well, you obviously can't take a joke.
@@Bawlswhet k just don't get over emotional there bud
@@kalebbagrowicz3648 good one... 👎 😂🤣
Holy shit i just saw you on the Ryanair recruitment website. No wonder you're so good at explaining stuff, you're the actual instructor.
Ssshh...no one’s supposed to know he works for RA. He has their blessing to post as long as it doesn’t create liability for them
I work in project IT and make more than double. Unsatisfactory work though. Office based, always dealing with idiots and boring meetings constantly.
Justin Campbell Everyone I know in IT says there's too many idiots. Is IT full of idiots or what?
Dee Man experienced pilots earn far more 😂
I work in IT and I make less than what he quoted for some of the low tier instructor jobs, and I still have to deal with all the idiots and the boring meetings. mfw.
Joshual2000 Depends what you do. on contract I know people that work for £895 a day. Your field of expertise in IT can mean you choose to work as a contractor to earn more. But just as with any other job this comes at a risk of having no work and no sick pay etc.
+Dee Man I know exactly what you mean!
It's about COMMITMENT.!! Stay focused and the returns will come back to you. If you do not have the love for flying or the commitment - get an IT job.
As always - awesome video - very informative.
I love your videos! And your intro is fantastic 😍
Greetings from Germany 👋
Unfortunately there are no cadet school in the US. Pilots either came out from military or private flying school/university plus 1,500 hours. It took 250 hours to be an instructor making $20/hr at 20 hours week. So it would take about 2 years to full fill 1,500 hours and spent close to $100,000+ before hiring into regional making $20,000 - 25,000 year. One gets promote to captain in about 5 years and make $60 ,000. A 10 year regional captain makes $80-90,000. A regional captain may have to wait 10 years to be a major first officer makes $60 - 70,000 to start and $120,000 in 5 years.
I think you are missing one very typical career paths for pilots in the USA. In fact, of the three airline pilots I personally know, every single one of them took this path. They join the Airforce, Navy or Air National guard. Get their flight certifications and hours through military service. Do ONE full contract then leave and enter civilian airline work. They have to get their type ratings and all that, but they will be in the 2000~3000 flight hours range when they leave so that is not the issue. Also, they are not getting paid McDonalds salary during the decade they spend in military service and they don't pay for flight school. BTW, they are not all combat pilots. One of the guys I know flew the C-141 then the C-17. He never flew for a regional; I think he went straight to what was (then) Northwest Airlines, now Delta. The airline even let him stay in the reserves.
Another thing is, I think you are way off on the wages. US regional pilots start at about 60K a year and yes that is bad. It is half what a police officer makes. Nobody makes 25~30K flying any kind of a jet. 25~30K is what you make working full-time at McDonalds!
You must serve you're agreed military time, this could be 8-10 years and get through all the flight schools that they will have you attend and pass. All military pilots are officers so you must have successfully completed 2 years of college with scientific courses. Then if you make that, you probably won't know what type plane they will have you flying in the military. When when you get out, you will probablly have to get reetrained to fly one of the commercial pllanes that the airlinles use.
The C-17 and C-141 are both military cargo planes only and are not flown by civilians. If you wanat a crossover plane, try the 767 which is now used as a tanker plane.
Can you switch from Europe to the USA easily? Like get a European salary as a first officer and then go to the USA to make absolute bank after a couple years’ experience?
Is it possible to fly as an military pilot and then after that flying for a commercial airline? Too pay less money for your license?
Yes it is. Check out my video on "How to become a pilot". I am talking about that, and other things, there.
Yes!!!!!!
That's a cheap way to get a pilot's license without having to pay for it yourself. Except for all the time you have to agree to be in the service flying for the government. Many of the commercial pilots were ex-military pilots. If you are going to join to get your license, don't go in the Air Force. Anybody can takeoff and land a plane on a stable runway. Be the best pilot. Be a Navy pilot. They can land both on runways and bobbing aircraft carriers. Compare the Blue Angles to the Thunderbirds. Be Proud - Be a Naval Aviator!
James Koralewski I want to join the air force so that they can pay for my schooling. Is that wrong?
Very nice channel. Very interesting too. I know somebody who's a pilot with KLM, first he flew as an f/o on Boeing 747's ,but now he's a triple 7 f/o, since they are outphasing the 747 with KLM. Some years ago he offered me a flight with a smaller airplane, a small prop-airplane, and i had a blast while sitting next to him as we flew over my house, my parents house and that of my late grandmother. Much different ofcourse than flying a big commercial airliner, but it was great fun to sit next to a pilot and seeing what it takes to actually fly an aircraft. Flew in airliners as well ofcourse, but as a passenger. But this flight in this small KLM prop was so much more fun.Listening through the headset to all the conversations, looking to all the switches and dials, looking what it actually takes to fly an airplane.. it is just great! I am never going to be a pilot, but i have great respect for guys and girls who fly airplanes. So much responsability and professionalism. it just blows my mind every time
No offense mate but the captain payscale for US major captains a little outdated. At least with Delta, under their new contract, a captain can easily cap out at 400,000 to 450,000 especially when taking into account green and white slips.
Edit: As an update a delta captain hourly rate on a 747 is 330 (before raise from new contract)
+Tom Sawyer Thank you! I was running with the figures I had available from on-line sources.
Np man its hard to get accurate stuff online. Families in the industry so informations a little easier to come by.
i just cant belive all these numbers are so high, i mean if 1 customer pays 100$ for his flight ticket and theres 100 passangers, thats 10k, and theres much more than the pilot thats getting paid, each flight ticket with a captain cost 10k each or what? ofcourse i understand also its based on how long you fly but even with 500$ a ticket it would be 50k, and if only the pilot is gonna get his 400k years salary thats 8 trips and 1 guy is paid for a year meanwhile the cost of the airplane, gas, engineers checking the plane, people updating the flight site getting customers into right places, engineers at the airport making the system of tickets and stuff work etc etc etc all need to be paid by your 100-500$ flight ticket
Foxy, you have misunderstood. No pilot is remunerated according to seats occupied.
Agreed. I doubt many ever exceed 300k tops and they'll be the guys at the very top.
You guys should be on 500k per year. The training and responsibility is massive. You have a brain full of schematics, physics, engineering, mathematics, management, physical endurance, professionalism. I missed stuff out I think.
By the way, politicians are useless.
I like your way of thinking!!
Thanks Captain. Good series and great timing. My son is a junior in high school and is considering a career as a pilot.
Any advice on approach to training? Our local community college has an aviation program where I did my private ground school. They do not offer flight training or ATP but he could do his private, instrument and commercial ground there. Four year colleges with ATP programs seem like a good way to go but tuition seems quite high.
In Italy, for example, a pilot who gets to fly 750 block hours and get paid 90 euros each, has a gross salary of 67.500 euros. If then you remove the % of taxes from the gross salary that's around 37% of it, a well paid pilot has a salary of just 3500€ per month. Also, in italy, you can't save money from your salary and invest it on property because you will get a lot of taxes per each one
What is your salary??
Talking about your own salary in your own backyard with a nice pool, that's the epitome of success right there.
Can you get those 1500 hours just flying around in your Cessna for fun? Or do those hours have to be as a commercial pilot?
Hungry Guy it's 1500 hours total time. however you'll also need Turbine time, Instrument time, multi engine time, cross country time, and all that jazz. you cant just do 1500 100$ hamburger hops and go apply to an airline.
Byron Henry lmao hamburger hops
Well, you could do it that way if you wanted to. I been at this for almost 43 years now, I fly mostly helicopters now, or freight in airplanes. You are going to need some twin time, back when I was young, you have to be at least 23 to get an ATP, I had mine for 38 years now. You needed 500 to 1000 hours of multi time alone just to complete. I remember interviewing with a commuter airline that was flying Twin Otters but would be phasing them out, I was the lowest time guy in the room, the only civilian trained pilot, everybody else was Air Force or Navy and I was the lowest time guy in both total time and turbine time, and I had 6000 hours in my logbook at the time. There is the minimum hire times and then there are the competitive hire times, it all depends on how tall the stack of resumes are on the Cheif pilots desk! What you do is you start off as a flight instructor and build time. Then once you get to that 1500- 2000 hours in your log, the next step would be a freight hauling job in a twin of some sort, you do that for a year and get really good at instrument flying, then you go to the airlines. Lots of guys bust the interview sim ride because they are not really current flying instruments. I will tell you this, it's hard work and a lot of it is thankless too. Is it doable yeah it is, but you will need to get your ducks in a row, you get out of flight school with 190 to 250 hours, you should have and idea of where you are going to go, I tell guys in Flight school make a list of all the low time pilot jobs you see advertised and start making phone calls and putting a resume together before you take your final check rides. Have a bag packed and a reliable car.
Are you talking single engine or double engine Cessna. The course where you study the engines must match the number of engines currently in the plane you are flying.
I find it shocking that airlines in Europe are essentially sourcing pilots from the gig economy. I know this video is old so I don't know if this is still going on but in the UK at least this is being outlawed in my industry (driving HGVs). I hate this way of working. If companies need pilots, drivers or indeed any employee, then they should employ them, and respect our hard-won worker's rights, and pay them appropriately. And also pay the appropriate taxes Anything else is nothing short of exploitation. (and tax avoidance). This applies whether you are an airline pilot a truck driver a cleaner and everything in between.
I could watch the intro all day.
I really appreciate the honesty shown in these kind of videos, getting to the top on the aviation world is really tough and unless you’re truly passionate about it, you’re most likely gonna quit midway, which can be truly devastating. There’s always also the risk of running into unexpected health issues that might prevent you from passing the medical Class 1 test every year, leading again to catastrophic consequences. There can also be a pandemic and you can lose your job, etc etc.
I cannot stress it enough how being a pilot isn’t at all the comfortable and luxurious world it used to be, those days are long gone for good. On these days, unless you really enjoy flying, it honestly isn’t advisable to take these risks, which is really sad, but hopefully it will also contribute to a better atmosphere in the cockpits.
It’s also advisable to become financially independent from the aviation world to minimize these risks, but that ofc isn’t easy, and it definitely isn’t for everyone.
Hey Mentour! I am 12 years old and want to be a pilot on the B737-800NG. I live in the home country of Ryanair (Ireland). I have been recently looking up flight school in Ireland. I know what airline you work for as I saw the career video and dont worry I wont say it. If you feel I'm violating the way that you dont discuss your airline delete this comment. Just wanted to know was it hard to get into your airline and if you failed application process a few times? Thanks
Cian Ryan Well it is hard to say if it will be hard to join the company in 7 years for example. When i was 12 i wanted to become a pilot and now with 25 i'm working for the same company.
Try to be good in school , fly PMDG on FSX save money after school and dont give up your dream than you will be a pilot one time.
Cian Ryan make sure you study maths well and when you go to secondary school do science subjects like physics. study hard, save hard and persevere. good luck mo chairde
Cian Ryan sounds like you love aviation. I have no doubt you will reach your goal, except the model plane you reference, may be replaced by a newer version when you are ready for airline life💖
Thanks to everyone for your motivational comments. I hope to see you all on board in the future if I achieve my dream!
Start saving for the flight school. The airline isn't just going to hire you and send you to flight school for free. You should show up, on day one, with flight certificate in hand. You're way too lyoung to apply now, anyway.
A friend of mine is a captain for an international airline. He was recently on call (as required as part of his job) and did 6 long haul segments over a two week period and was paid 32700€ for the fortnight. I believe he is on an older wage agreement than most pilots today tho
I did my ppl one hr at the time. Even worked with UBER to pay for the training.
I'm 47years old. A bit old to make it to an airline so I purchased and old Piper tomahawk and I having fun with it.
I just flew w a 54 yr old new hire at a Legacy. He never gave up.
And i’m from Saudi Arabia and I got a scholarship from Saudi Airlines to study Aviation in the US. We don’t need to built hours to work we just need the license and our first salary is $5,500 which is 66K a year. I don’t know if it’s average or below but it’s decent for a graduate student.
Är du från Sverige? (Are you from Sweden?) :-)
Tyckte jag hörde svenskan bakom engelskan, så att säga ;-)
¿Estás viviendo en España? (Are you living in Spain?)
じloloもloloゃhsジャjs哺o (Do you speak martien?)
Skjønner du norsk? ( Do u understand Norwegian)
O čemu vi pričate? (What are you talking about?)
In the United States contract pilots are common for charter business jets. Usually need around 2,000-4,000 hours. Airlines are a bit less at 1,500 hours.
great video as always
Seems to me that the 1500 hours is somewhat arbitrary considering that an airline pilot is flying a jet that travels hundreds of miles per hour while a flight instructor is maybe flying an aircraft that can do a little over one hundred. I think a better rule would be to require a pilot to demonstrate that he/she can control a jet at speeds, first in an FAA-approved simulator, then in a real aircraft with an experienced pilot ready to take over at a moment's notice. From what I understand, a jet is a lot easier to over-stress than a 172, right?
I get €3,50 for one hour doing the dishes in a restaurant 😂
+Florax_ Florax You need to do some salary negotiations man! 😂
Mentour Pilot I'm 15 years old and you can't really get better than this in The Netherlands 😂
jawel, als je net als mij op de markt werkt, dan kan je 85 euro per dag krijgen (ongeveer 13 uur per dag werken) en ik werk alleen zaterdags dus 340 per maand alleen zaterdagen
On those wages i think you may need to forgo the Swimming pool, for the time being at least.
Florax_ Florax I'm getting £4.05 in a bakery looool
$120-150K for working merely 20 hours a week with auto pilot doing most of the flying............awesome job!! A little grind in the beginning 4-5 years but as Captain said, once you make it to the cockpit of the majors, you have made it.
Amit KP Like in lots of other jobs requiring an extensive education, the payment is not only for doing your job. It is for being able to handle exceptional situations. And if you fail at that, you are out. May happen after 1 year, 5 years, even never if you are lucky.
That's very true. Especially when safety of hundreds of others is on line. Same as police officers, it matters when the "heated" situation arrives, then all the training and experience is what counts.
“You will be able to get a good car” shows a Porsche
And?
well, yeah it is a good car
The requirement from the FAA is that if you earn a bachelors degree with a major in aviation, you only need 1000 flight hours to be hired by an airline. Military pilots need 750 and with an associates degree in aviation you need 1250 flight hours.
“Is it worth?” Sitting in front of a pool!!! 🤣😂
My son dream to become a pilot. Hopefully next year God's will. Even i'm a single parent i'm doing my best to support him for his dream.
Is it easy to separate the average pilots form the great ones? I would think that there would be a big element of luck, even bad luck that is handled well. Doing well in the sim probably doesn't always translate to real life when the stress changes from passing the test to surviving and having other lives in your hands.
Starting wages for a regional job is now 60,000$US/annual. Source: I just went to a career fair.
Pilot salaries? I live in Switzerland, have a pool (a luxury enjoyed by one in a million Swiss) and drive a Porsche. Does that give you any idea?
Do you?
I live in Spain, and drive a second hand Porsche. :)
Mentour Pilot Sadly, I do not. Enjoy the joie de vivre of Spain. It looks fantastic.
Fantastic Mentour. Really appreciate your efforts
Legend has it the real reason for the 'hump' on a 747 is to enable to the pilot to sit on his wallet! :)
Qucik yes/no question:
When your landing (with autothrottle) and you need to put the throttle to idle. Can you just take the throttle and move it backwards or do you have to turn off autothrottle on the AP panel first and then move the throttle backwards?
Turn off
Ironic that you're doing a video about pilots salary whilst sat in front of your swimming pool at your villa 😉
where is the irony?
Mentour Pilot do you suggest completing a PPl before taking a ATPL
you need your ppl for your atpl...
Nope, you can do an integrated course and get an ATPL directly.
DJ Br8k Not true, I have a CPL with ATPL theory credit. No PPL. I am talking about EASA BTW
Another note is that US regional pilots make 50-60k when you include bonuses these days and upgrades are happening a lot quicker...
Pilots starting new position get put on probation?
That's scary.
How can a pilot fail a probation?
Enthusiastic Coder Crash the plane lol
Sure, they can. They can also fail a recertification. they have to be recertified once a year in a level D simulator by the FAA.
In some Asian airlines the pilots can get bonded for a number of years in exchange for the pilot license - Singapore Airlines typically bond pilots for 7 years and these years aren't paid well at all.
The chances of failing miserably and going broke is just way too high to risk the time becoming a pilot. I believe there's more shattered dreams than success stories.
Probably, but you can decide on relevant safety precautions to avoid that happening to you. Avoid large debt for example, do proper tests before starting your training etc.
"I believe there's more shattered dreams than success stories."
Unemployment, for pilots jobs, amongst pilot in EU is 15%. So there is probably more successful stories than shattered dreams.
First thing about wanting to be a pilot. You'll have to like traveling a lot. I read some piolets quit in 2 months because they can not get used to being away that long.
I always like your videos dude! Great jargon busting info for pilot wannabes- I find it easy to follow as you have a logical approach and make undeniable points. Thanks a bunch
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Ur a legend. The way you explain things
What about cargo pilots? Like for UPS and Fedex?
~ 234.000 $ a year for FedEx
A friend of the family was a pilot for South African Airways and he flew the first Boeing 747 purchased by SAA back from Everett in 1971. Don't think he earned particularly much money though.
If I were to go to air force for conscription, do I have an advantage in getting to be a pilot afterwards? If so, what would the difference between having an air force background vs not having an air force background?
I think you still need to get your licence from millitary to civil. but yea u can, watch his video on how to become a pilot and he touches up on it.
None. Becoming a pilot in the air force is like achieving any otherAir Force job except you have to be healthier smarter and selected from among all the other people seeking a pilot's job. Oh, and pilots are all officers so you must have at least 2 successful years of college completed when you apply.
For commuter pilots in the US, the Greyhound bus driver is probably making more but if flying is your dream then do it.
How early can you start flying
23 i guess
when you get your PPL. But if you mean for major airlines like Delta, United, etc... that's when you have thousands of hours and experience flying regional airlines (which you can fly at 1500 hours)
I really love that last bit! 👌🏽
These days with the Covid pandemic many of these pilots might end up making $0/year.
This was a great presentation and well done. Very informative. Greetings from Arizona.
I believe I can fly
I believe I can make a dime
I think about it everytime I fly
Don those stripes and fly away
I don't wanna be poor
I see me running through Embry-Riddle's door
I believe I can fly
No more ramen noodles
Away I fly, toodles!
Very simple,down to earth with elegance.superb captain