I actually really enjoyed valravn. I don't know why a lot of coaster enthusiasts hate on the thing. It's a fun ride and that's all that matters at the end of the day.
Completely agreed. I'd give it like an 8 or an 8.5, a 7.5 is a little low. People are for some reason starting to hate on CP a LOT more ever since Taylor reviewed MF.
JAPORTY its a fun coaster we went to cedar point for the first time me and my dad said the same thing as me...this is a plain copy of sheikra I’m an 11 year old coaster enthusiast so please think before you judge.
I do think dive coasters are one trick ponies, but that's the point. They aren't like other roller coasters, and they aren't to be! When done right dive coasters are incredible machines, and that can invoke so much fear. Just look at both Oblivions, Baron 1898, and Krake just to name a few. They are complete their job perfectly. I think that Valravn doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but missed out on some of the dive coaster perks. A tunnel and evil or scary theme would have served this coaster well.
I LOVE this coaster!! As an experienced coaster rider Valravn is a blast it's FUN to ride. I really don't understand why everyone loves Maverick so much. Every time I get off Valravn I am grinning ear-to-ear.
Adam Latimer I love both valravn and maverick. I just don’t understand y most enthusiasts think it’s necessary to look at this coaster as pointless. To b honest, this is in my opinion the most underrated coaster on the planet
Bobb-z Callahan I wanna ride Top Thrill Dragster in the back. I’ve been on it once and only in the front because it was a slow day. I really wanna try the back next time
well even a vekoma SLC would finally get Great Escape a new coaster since the last coaster was in 2005 and also that the Great Escape currently doesn't have a invert
The floater airtime in the front row right side was fantastic, and the view of lake Eerie from the top is sublime. My expectations were low but this ride blew me away
The first Dive coaster was Oblivion at Alton Towers. What was impressive was it dived into a hole. I think if a dive coaster is gonna dive, then dive it into something, make it do what most coasters don’t do which is DIVE into something. Cedar point does not put a wow factor in any coaster like a tunnel, Ravine (you can make a Ravine. All Ravines are not natural) or a water splash down.
I talked to an employee at the cedar point express hotel (who seemed like he knew what he was talking about) and his description of valravn was it suffers from new B&M syndrome where it's so smooth it feels forceless But I got a first ride of the day front row seat so that was a cool enough experience (second day in a row after I got that on raging bull the day before)
the best seat on this ride is front row on the very end on either side. it is amazing. you are sitting off the track and you are just out there like you are flying. it's an awesome feeling
I loved VALRAVN...It's very enjoyable,...Thrilling (Dive), smooth, that roll at the end is an amazing feeling, I got airtime. I dunno...I thought it was a fantastic.
They do on most rides, but the more popular ones have a sign saying "Due to the popularity of this ride, you may have seat assignments" (They have the sign for Rougarou too thou but nobody really rides that)
My friends constantly say “omg the valravn is soooo dangerous it literally gets stuck every time at the top before it goes STRAIGHT DOWN and people just fall out”
The last time I went to Cedar Point was before Valravn and even Rougarou, and I wasn't tall enough to go on Mantis or Raptor. Hopefully I'm going this year.
The ride is a shortened version of the gatekeeper😂 It's ok but don't wait more than 30 mins for it just ride the gatekeeper instead the lines usually shorter
Honestly if Valravn had over the shoulder restraints like Griffon I would want to ride it more, I love airtime so that's a plus that Griffon has over Valravn
Taylor before you do your X2 review, you sat in the outer seats, now that makes a big difference. On the inner seats you get less of that banging, and it is much more enjoyable and actually adds up to the intensity, so before you make the review, understand that it is also possible to get a really good ride on it. Its just like skyrush. Its either amazing or average.
+Coaster Studios Millennium Force was way better than Valravn as you said Mavrick was more intense. This dive coaster was fun to ride but i'm more of a top thrill dragster speed freak.
as for the restrains, just dont let them push the restrains so thight! just sit more in front of your seat when closing it. when you are leaving the station you can sit normal and you have enough space for air-time. i do this all the time and it really gives you alot more airtime!
Taylor, I see what you mean about Valravan being a one trick pony. From a rider or enthusiast stand point, they probably should have added something else. But, I have to say the way they integrated the coaster into the park with a walkway right under the main drop is really cool. My wife would not ride but loved that she could get so close and see people flipping out. I am guessing Cedar Point takes non riders into account when picking a new ride and from a business standpoint it kinda makes sense. Another great example would be the bleachers at TTD, such a cool area for people to watch.
Their last ground up coaster, and man are they due. I think this coaster made sense because it's a people eater and a generally reliable B&M. (Not for operating year 2022) Hoping their next ground up coaster pushes the envelope like almost every coaster built there from 2000-2007
valravn was amazing, rode it 5 times in 1 day 4 in the front row, Its the first drop that makes the coaster amazing, I love it so much! screw the haters
Rode it for the second time this past weekend, and I must say I was pleasantly surprised. First time I rode it I was part of the GP, then when I became an enthusiast I spent much of the past year reading and watching about how overrated this was. As such, I was surprised how much I liked it. Granted, I haven't ridden the other dive coasters, but this surprised me. Great feeling on the drop, amazing weightless feeling on the zero g-roll, and actual ejector on the airtime hill! Short, yes, but I found it enjoyable. It is a cookie cutter ride with redundant elements, and probably shouldn't have gone to CP, but I still underestimated how much I would like it.
+Coaster studios yesterday I rode valravn. in my opinion valravn is the best coaster I have ever been on. the first drop is insane. I sat on the second row middle seat. the inversions are intense the ride is smooth.
Taylor you're right, they don't let you pick your row on Valravn, or even wait for a row. Weird considering that they let you do that on every other coaster in the park. When I rode it, my group and I requested to wait for front row and we were still told to go to row 2
Well said Taylor and I agree with all of your points. I've never been on a dive coaster prior to Valravn, so I didn't know what to expect. I was hoping for intensity similar to the 1st generation free fall rides, which some weren't over 120ft tall (i.e. demon drop)....or even gyro drops, but that wasn't the case...Of all the rows ridden, I actually experienced more "airtime" in the back row. Second drop is non existent and the back half of ride seemed way too slow to me. I'm not an extreme coaster person in general, but this just didn't give me the "wow" factor I was hoping for. I'm also not impressed by stats, or how many "records" are broken by a ride. In this case, we're talking a matter of approximately 25ft which is a very small margin. I really believe they could have designed a better dive coaster with more intensity and unique layout. I love B & M, but I'm longing for a balance of more intensity (particularly ejector airtime). I'll have to try Griffon whenever I'm in the Virginia area though.
The valraven was very enjoyable but I can't say that I would recommend riding it twice in one trip to cedar point because the line is usually very long.😁😁
Rode it yesterday for the first time. Was in front row right corner. I was underwhelmed. The drop wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be. Most of the rest of the elements were fun but nothing that left an impression. I didn't do it a second time . Elected to hit MF 5 times and Steel Vengeance twice.
In my opinion this ride is not worth the wait. It is honestly kind of boring. It's also stupid that you could wait 3 hours just to sit in the middle or the back.
I rode this is the front and back. Force-wise, the back was pretty similar to the front. I didn't notice a significant difference like you feel on rides like Maverick. The front is still the best seat on this ride for that view on the first drop, though.
There are a few things that I like about Valravn and a lot that I don't. What I Like; 1. The logo 2. The buildings 3. The colors What I don't like; 1. The uninspired layout 2. The fact that it doesn't even TRY to break records (I'll go into detail about that bellow) 3. The fact that it fails to live up to the standards of Cedar Point 4. The fact that it looks like an off-the-shelf model that B&M had lying around 5. The fact that the first half is the exact same as the other large ones 6. The fact that Cedar Point didn't need a B&M dive coaster I'd go as far as to say that Valravn is one of the WORST coasters added this year. How much Valravn 'breaks' records; 1. Length; 195.5 feet longer than previous longest (rcdb.com/3930.htm) 2. Height; 9.7 feet taller than previous tallest (rcdb.com/4224.htm), it's not even ten feet taller than the previous tallest. That was a missed opportunity for a joke in the parody. 3. Drop Height; NA as no other large B&M dive coaster has a listed drop height. 4. Speed; 4 MPH faster than previous fastest (rcdb.com/3631.htm) 5. Inverts; 1 more invert than previous (rcdb.com/3631.htm) I'm sorry but this is pathetic for a 'record-breaking' coaster, Cedar Point can do better. But if the rumors about Mean Streak getting RMC'd are true then this ride makes more sense as it would be a FILLER coaster. As for what I feel could bump up the score is this; 1. Boost the height up to at least 230 feet or 250 feet at most, scale up the drop, immelmen and speed. 2. Instead of going into the brake run have it go over either an air-time hill or a zero-g-roll over the line and lift hill starting area 3. Have a second immelmen following that that goes over the exit path and then go into the mid-course. 4. Not kill so much speed on the mid-course. 5. Have a near-miss with the Valravn logo on it through the roll facing towards Iron Dragon 6. Have the air-time hill exit into a spiraling drop around the drop off of the mid-course and make a quasi-helix 7. Throw a second hill before the brake run 8. Make the brake run not so steep Boom, you have a B&M dive coaster that's more deserving of being at Cedar Point as it would shatter the mold that all of the large ones follow, not waste all of it's speed under a minute after it's reached
I got a 45 minute wait on Valravn, so I got one of the shortest lines on it (for this year, lines should start to go down for next year). The problem with it was that I was put in the back row, so it wasn't nearly as good as the front row would be, but it was still a decent ride.
Just so you know, you actually can request a row Evernote if you aren't fastpass. Cedar Fair usually doesn't strictly assign rows, if thy even assign hen.
I think Valravn is a very fun ride, the vests dont really hurt the weightless feeling too much. The drop is incredible and the 270 degree roll is amazing!(BTW, they let you choose your own seat now
Are you an enthusiast by the way? I don't think you made it clear. Are you expecting a prize? I have been on over 200 coasters but you won't catch me acting like I am better than someone who doesn't realize there are other B&M coasters in the world or doesn't know Vekoma SLCs & boomerangs have been cloned more than a copy of A Christmas Story. The Dive Loop and Zero-G roll at the end are fantastic and the airtime hill gave me some lift but I do agree with you on the vest restraints. The splashdown? Really? Are you a duck and need water? I like your videos but I would think you, as an enthusiast, would prefer two great elements Griffon doesn't offer over some aqua that frankly does nothing.
I agree with you. I would rather had seen them buildssomething like Lightning Rod or Goliath than this. This and Banshee were 2 designs that B&M had pretty much haven't built in about 10 years, so when they made these updated version's they did a pretty good job. I prefer Banshee over Valravn though.
I just went to Cedar Point and I say Valravn is the second best ride there. The number one is Maverick. I think Valravn is the best B&M at Cedar Point.
Great Review, only thing I would contest is that the drop feels like the other dive coasters... personally I really was shocked how much more force Valraven's drop seemed to have than Griffon, which I also rode this year.
This, Yukon Striker, Emperor, Valkyria, Dr. Diabolical’s Cliffhanger, and Iron Menace all break the number 1 rule for dive coasters: Do NOT put vest restraints on dive coasters. Hence, why I like Griffon and SheiKra better.
I sat in back row twice (and front once) and the hold in the front is pretty awesome, but in the back it's like jumping off a building! You pull down very quick on the top, and I prefer the back on most good CP coasters, especially Maverick and Millennium Force. Do you agree?
I stand by that the structure around these rides is what makes them... Griffin's bridge or sheikra's village and jungle theme are why they are superior and I have ridden all 3 in the US multiple times
You want to try Oblvion at Alton Towers in the UK. It is bad all you get is a 60ft drop strait down then it disappears underground for ten seconds then after a banking curve strait into the brake run, the ride lasts 30 seconds. All that after a two hour line der.
Andrew Burton-Fullick are you joking? Oblivion was the very first dive coaster, so it won't have any extra elements and oblivion has a drop of 150+ feet! The tunnel is there for a reason, Alton towers has a height restriction
when i rode it i experienced alot of airtime. also if you ask the staff you can choose your row. it may have been because i went on a good week where the line on valravn was like 20 minutes and everything else had like 5 minute lines
if you get a group of 8 while waiting in line that agree on which row to sit in, the ride operator will let you take that row to save time trying to fill each row during the loading of the previous train, and ps, back row is where it is at!!
it's year 1 for this ride, gatekeeper was the same way, I'm giving either end of next year or 2017 that this will be a 30 minute line, I'm expecting this to be about how long the wait for raptor is when the hype calms down. I personally like this more than griffon due to the phenomenal view you get from the 2 drops, griffon is a better "ride" but I feel valravn is a better overall package due to it opening up the blue streak midway which was always a dead end, how much you can walk through the ride through the midway, and you can get some great views from raptor from the midway. also from walking around the park I noticed that in a few areas they cut down a branch from a few trees so you are able to see the first drop from around the whole park and I thought that that was REALLY smart.
I agree because I hated the theater. I don't know if you went when the theater was still there but it was the ugliest thing. I am still mad that they took out wildcat because that was better than Iron Dragon
I wish B&M could keep the restraint part of the vest restraints, because I love the shape of the restraint itself, and how it locks at your thighs, but put straps like Intamin did with Mav, Storm Runner, Fahrenheit, etc. It would be a lot more open and would still be safe. I don't get why B&M put huge vests on the new restraint, but, it's beyond me.
I think that Valravn is a good ride, but with getting a floor less coaster just last year. I think that a B&M flyer would’ve been better, or even a GCI woodie. I still like it though and it’s my sixth favorite coaster
I actually really enjoyed valravn. I don't know why a lot of coaster enthusiasts hate on the thing. It's a fun ride and that's all that matters at the end of the day.
Completely agreed. I'd give it like an 8 or an 8.5, a 7.5 is a little low. People are for some reason starting to hate on CP a LOT more ever since Taylor reviewed MF.
JAPORTY its a fun coaster we went to cedar point for the first time me and my dad said the same thing as me...this is a plain copy of sheikra I’m an 11 year old coaster enthusiast so please think before you judge.
Caleb K didn’t he still give MF a 9? 😂😂
Japorty I might agree... It was very short, for me at least. It was kinda just blobbed.
Ikr!! I love Valravn
"Hi can I sit in the front row please?"
"No, go to row six!"
"But there's only three..."
"GO TO ROW SIX!!!"
Lol
I do think dive coasters are one trick ponies, but that's the point. They aren't like other roller coasters, and they aren't to be! When done right dive coasters are incredible machines, and that can invoke so much fear. Just look at both Oblivions, Baron 1898, and Krake just to name a few. They are complete their job perfectly.
I think that Valravn doesn't deserve the hate it gets, but missed out on some of the dive coaster perks. A tunnel and evil or scary theme would have served this coaster well.
Hangtime won’t be a one trick pony
Nah dude Valravn sucks
ThemeParkSpotlight r u for real? Valravn is fuckin awesome
COASTER BOT Krake is great but way too short
ThemeParkSpotlight
These are good dive
Griffon, Sheikra, Draken is so much better(OTSR)
I LOVE this coaster!! As an experienced coaster rider Valravn is a blast it's FUN to ride. I really don't understand why everyone loves Maverick so much. Every time I get off Valravn I am grinning ear-to-ear.
Adam Latimer I love both valravn and maverick. I just don’t understand y most enthusiasts think it’s necessary to look at this coaster as pointless. To b honest, this is in my opinion the most underrated coaster on the planet
I agree that it is the most underrated coaster in the park and all around, I had an absolute blast on it
The back row is my favorite. Why? Because, when you go down the dive hills, you feel like you're yanked over them and that feeling is amazing.
The feeling of whipped over the drop is great!
Lol I’m going to cedar point and I’m am going back row so I don’t get hung over the drop cause that scares me I’m am afraid of heights!😂
Bobb-z Callahan I wanna ride Top Thrill Dragster in the back. I’ve been on it once and only in the front because it was a slow day. I really wanna try the back next time
I love it. I rode it twice with the fast pass and the worker gave me row 3 both times
+Jestro “KC Clan” ayy, worlds of fun
If you love it in third row (which in my opinion sucks) you'd LOVE it in front row.
+Jestro “KC Clan” yes
I'm early, here's a joke:
Great Escape getting a new coaster
.......
xD
Funny,( 3 days Later Announces a 4-D Freefly)
xD
well even a vekoma SLC would finally get Great Escape a new coaster since the last coaster was in 2005 and also that the Great Escape currently doesn't have a invert
At least they can't send you to row 6
They can but they'll be in a lot of legal trouble for trying to put a guest behind the ride while in motion
+Coaster Meister lol XD
what is the joke with row 6 can someone explain?
+Metal Coasters coaster studios was put in row 6 on the joker and people started making memes about it
+Metal Coasters Watch his live stream video from 1h 20mins to 1h 30 mins
I loved this ride. It was my first dive coaster. That first drop is insane
Hey, at least with that ride you can't be in row 6
Indeed
Yess!
Save Row 6
This was my first dive coaster and I loved it. Those restraints were restrictive but this is the 3rd best coaster their
The floater airtime in the front row right side was fantastic, and the view of lake Eerie from the top is sublime. My expectations were low but this ride blew me away
I was actually able to pick my own seat on Valravn. I requested front row and got it! Although I think some employees won't let you...
I love all the effort you put in each one of your videos :) I 100% agree with your opinion on this coaster!
Thank you!
+Coaster Studios I wish I could meet you in person. I also wish my channel is as good as your channel. You're 90 times better than me and Hayden!
Valravn is the most underrated roller coaster I have every ridden. It gives airtime to.
I’m going on it for my first time in a couple of weeks maybe next weekend and I’m so scared lol
Best ride literally ever every time I go on it I always get front row and my adrenaline goes up soo big 😂🤩
The first Dive coaster was Oblivion at Alton Towers. What was impressive was it dived into a hole. I think if a dive coaster is gonna dive, then dive it into something, make it do what most coasters don’t do which is DIVE into something.
Cedar point does not put a wow factor in any coaster like a tunnel, Ravine (you can make a Ravine. All Ravines are not natural) or a water splash down.
It’s all about the thrill not the theming tunnels mainly add to theme not so much thrill
I talked to an employee at the cedar point express hotel (who seemed like he knew what he was talking about) and his description of valravn was it suffers from new B&M syndrome where it's so smooth it feels forceless
But I got a first ride of the day front row seat so that was a cool enough experience (second day in a row after I got that on raging bull the day before)
I loved Valravn one of my favorite rides at Cedar Point
the best seat on this ride is front row on the very end on either side. it is amazing. you are sitting off the track and you are just out there like you are flying. it's an awesome feeling
I think six flags magic mountain should get a dive coaster if they take out viper
Viper is the last of its kind I hope they keep it around fun intense ride
am i the only person who thinks dive coasters aren't just one trick ponies?
That doesn’t make them any less awesome. I think people really underestimate valravn
Caleb Reese I know I waited 2 hours and 45 min and it is one of my favorite coasters in was insanely awesome!!
You are not the only one in my state I live in kc and we haven’t gotten in a roller coaster in 10 years also we don’t have a multi launch
Supreme Max my opinion is it’s not worth 2 hours compared to steel vengeance which I’d wait 3 hours in line for
What are the other tricks tho?
I loved VALRAVN...It's very enjoyable,...Thrilling (Dive), smooth, that roll at the end is an amazing feeling, I got airtime. I dunno...I thought it was a fantastic.
They don't let you pick your seats at cedar point? do they send you to row 6?
they do just not on valravn
They do on most rides, but the more popular ones have a sign saying "Due to the popularity of this ride, you may have seat assignments" (They have the sign for Rougarou too thou but nobody really rides that)
I was a single rider and they let me pick. I think it has to do with demand. It was a slow day with a 45 min wait for Valravn so that probably why.
I didn't have that in KD. I could pick my seat (Intimidator 305 backseat rides baby) and they wouldn't complain.
BillyTheSnake No just that ride that year because so many people when on it. every other coaster you choose your own seat
My friends constantly say “omg the valravn is soooo dangerous it literally gets stuck every time at the top before it goes STRAIGHT DOWN and people just fall out”
Sheikra is still my favorite Dive Coaster :)
In the back row the drop felt insane! I love this ride
Yes. Thanks for this vid. Could u do top 10 roller coaster types, such as hybrid,wooden, hyper, stand up, floor less, invert
The last time I went to Cedar Point was before Valravn and even Rougarou, and I wasn't tall enough to go on Mantis or Raptor. Hopefully I'm going this year.
The ride is a shortened version of the gatekeeper😂 It's ok but don't wait more than 30 mins for it just ride the gatekeeper instead the lines usually shorter
Honestly if Valravn had over the shoulder restraints like Griffon I would want to ride it more, I love airtime so that's a plus that Griffon has over Valravn
Taylor before you do your X2 review, you sat in the outer seats, now that makes a big difference. On the inner seats you get less of that banging, and it is much more enjoyable and actually adds up to the intensity, so before you make the review, understand that it is also possible to get a really good ride on it. Its just like skyrush. Its either amazing or average.
The drop and view is better in the front but, it i pretty forceful in the back
"But the enthusiasts are talking about how it isn't very great"
Me with this as my #3: 👁👄👁
I went on this and had my eyes shut for the lift hill and the drop. It was really fun and the inversions were cool!
+Coaster Studios Millennium Force was way better than Valravn as you said Mavrick was more intense. This dive coaster was fun to ride but i'm more of a top thrill dragster speed freak.
as for the restrains, just dont let them push the restrains so thight! just sit more in front of your seat when closing it. when you are leaving the station you can sit normal and you have enough space for air-time. i do this all the time and it really gives you alot more airtime!
I love your vids keep it up man all I see in you is
SUCCESS
When I was at Cedar Point I was in the regular line and I requested front and they said yes.
Taylor, I see what you mean about Valravan being a one trick pony. From a rider or enthusiast stand point, they probably should have added something else. But, I have to say the way they integrated the coaster into the park with a walkway right under the main drop is really cool. My wife would not ride but loved that she could get so close and see people flipping out. I am guessing Cedar Point takes non riders into account when picking a new ride and from a business standpoint it kinda makes sense. Another great example would be the bleachers at TTD, such a cool area for people to watch.
You're absolutely right- the area around Valravn looks magnificent!
Their last ground up coaster, and man are they due. I think this coaster made sense because it's a people eater and a generally reliable B&M. (Not for operating year 2022)
Hoping their next ground up coaster pushes the envelope like almost every coaster built there from 2000-2007
It is a slow smooth coaster like gatekeeper. The thing that makes this my top favorite is the gorgeous view of the lake.
7:22 Awe-inspiring + Jaw-dropping = Awe-dropping?
valravn was amazing, rode it 5 times in 1 day 4 in the front row, Its the first drop that makes the coaster amazing, I love it so much! screw the haters
Rode it for the second time this past weekend, and I must say I was pleasantly surprised. First time I rode it I was part of the GP, then when I became an enthusiast I spent much of the past year reading and watching about how overrated this was. As such, I was surprised how much I liked it. Granted, I haven't ridden the other dive coasters, but this surprised me. Great feeling on the drop, amazing weightless feeling on the zero g-roll, and actual ejector on the airtime hill! Short, yes, but I found it enjoyable. It is a cookie cutter ride with redundant elements, and probably shouldn't have gone to CP, but I still underestimated how much I would like it.
I would choose valravn over griffin any day.
Griffon best dive
Zachary Giles in your opinion.
Then we have Yukon Striker at Canada's Wonderland. LOL
i think the back is the best
I picked my row when I rode it
I rode this coaster twice! It was super fun! :)
+Coaster studios yesterday I rode valravn. in my opinion valravn is the best coaster I have ever been on. the first drop is insane. I sat on the second row middle seat. the inversions are intense the ride is smooth.
Taylor you're right, they don't let you pick your row on Valravn, or even wait for a row. Weird considering that they let you do that on every other coaster in the park. When I rode it, my group and I requested to wait for front row and we were still told to go to row 2
I honestly loved it. 5th favorite in the park.
Well said Taylor and I agree with all of your points. I've never been on a dive coaster prior to Valravn, so I didn't know what to expect. I was hoping for intensity similar to the 1st generation free fall rides, which some weren't over 120ft tall (i.e. demon drop)....or even gyro drops, but that wasn't the case...Of all the rows ridden, I actually experienced more "airtime" in the back row. Second drop is non existent and the back half of ride seemed way too slow to me. I'm not an extreme coaster person in general, but this just didn't give me the "wow" factor I was hoping for. I'm also not impressed by stats, or how many "records" are broken by a ride. In this case, we're talking a matter of approximately 25ft which is a very small margin. I really believe they could have designed a better dive coaster with more intensity and unique layout. I love B & M, but I'm longing for a balance of more intensity (particularly ejector airtime). I'll have to try Griffon whenever I'm in the Virginia area though.
To b honest this ride is extremely underrated by enthusiasts. They don’t give it the credit it deserves
I thought that it was very good and super comfortable. I love it. I don’t really care about what people say about it. I think it’s great.
Great review! To me, Valravn looks pretty sick in my opjnion. Gonna ride it this month! :)
Can you do an actual review of raptor at cedar point please?
The valraven was very enjoyable but I can't say that I would recommend riding it twice in one trip to cedar point because the line is usually very long.😁😁
I went on all rows and thought it was extremely fun!
Valraven? Valravun? Valravan? “Valravn”
Ceder Point Should Get a Flying Coaster
Love the ride, love the park.
Rode it yesterday for the first time. Was in front row right corner. I was underwhelmed. The drop wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be. Most of the rest of the elements were fun but nothing that left an impression. I didn't do it a second time . Elected to hit MF 5 times and Steel Vengeance twice.
Valravn is my favorite Coaster
Why's the third row on the train farther back then the 2nd
I'm guessing it's for people who are more scared for the ride, on the drop they don't hang over and stuff like that.
I've already rode it 6 times and it is an amazing ride especially front row
In my opinion this ride is not worth the wait. It is honestly kind of boring. It's also stupid that you could wait 3 hours just to sit in the middle or the back.
I had fast pass so it was like a 5 minute wait
im getting fast lane if we go to ceder point
+Funny Moments and Videos I agree. Carowinds is the same. I waited 2 hours for fury 325 only for the staff to put me in the very middle of the train.
I rode this is the front and back. Force-wise, the back was pretty similar to the front. I didn't notice a significant difference like you feel on rides like Maverick. The front is still the best seat on this ride for that view on the first drop, though.
There are a few things that I like about Valravn and a lot that I don't.
What I Like;
1. The logo
2. The buildings
3. The colors
What I don't like;
1. The uninspired layout
2. The fact that it doesn't even TRY to break records (I'll go into detail about that bellow)
3. The fact that it fails to live up to the standards of Cedar Point
4. The fact that it looks like an off-the-shelf model that B&M had lying around
5. The fact that the first half is the exact same as the other large ones
6. The fact that Cedar Point didn't need a B&M dive coaster
I'd go as far as to say that Valravn is one of the WORST coasters added this year.
How much Valravn 'breaks' records;
1. Length; 195.5 feet longer than previous longest (rcdb.com/3930.htm)
2. Height; 9.7 feet taller than previous tallest (rcdb.com/4224.htm), it's not even ten feet taller than the previous tallest. That was a missed opportunity for a joke in the parody.
3. Drop Height; NA as no other large B&M dive coaster has a listed drop height.
4. Speed; 4 MPH faster than previous fastest (rcdb.com/3631.htm)
5. Inverts; 1 more invert than previous (rcdb.com/3631.htm)
I'm sorry but this is pathetic for a 'record-breaking' coaster, Cedar Point can do better. But if the rumors about Mean Streak getting RMC'd are true then this ride makes more sense as it would be a FILLER coaster.
As for what I feel could bump up the score is this;
1. Boost the height up to at least 230 feet or 250 feet at most, scale up the drop, immelmen and speed.
2. Instead of going into the brake run have it go over either an air-time hill or a zero-g-roll over the line and lift hill starting area
3. Have a second immelmen following that that goes over the exit path and then go into the mid-course.
4. Not kill so much speed on the mid-course.
5. Have a near-miss with the Valravn logo on it through the roll facing towards Iron Dragon
6. Have the air-time hill exit into a spiraling drop around the drop off of the mid-course and make a quasi-helix
7. Throw a second hill before the brake run
8. Make the brake run not so steep
Boom, you have a B&M dive coaster that's more deserving of being at Cedar Point as it would shatter the mold that all of the large ones follow, not waste all of it's speed under a minute after it's reached
I got a 45 minute wait on Valravn, so I got one of the shortest lines on it (for this year, lines should start to go down for next year). The problem with it was that I was put in the back row, so it wasn't nearly as good as the front row would be, but it was still a decent ride.
It's not my favorite coaster but I still love it and enjoy it. Very smooth too.
Just so you know, you actually can request a row Evernote if you aren't fastpass. Cedar Fair usually doesn't strictly assign rows, if thy even assign hen.
I love your videos my health doesn't let me ride coasters so I'll just take your word for it and I loved your analysis of Mystic Timbers l
I love this coaster in the front row It's also my #5 coaster a Cedar Point
I think Valravn is a very fun ride, the vests dont really hurt the weightless feeling too much. The drop is incredible and the 270 degree roll is amazing!(BTW, they let you choose your own seat now
Are you an enthusiast by the way? I don't think you made it clear. Are you expecting a prize? I have been on over 200 coasters but you won't catch me acting like I am better than someone who doesn't realize there are other B&M coasters in the world or doesn't know Vekoma SLCs & boomerangs have been cloned more than a copy of A Christmas Story. The Dive Loop and Zero-G roll at the end are fantastic and the airtime hill gave me some lift but I do agree with you on the vest restraints. The splashdown? Really? Are you a duck and need water? I like your videos but I would think you, as an enthusiast, would prefer two great elements Griffon doesn't offer over some aqua that frankly does nothing.
Those of u who think the splashdown will make the coaster need to rethink ur lives
@Jonny B row 3 gets wet in griffon&clone
I love this ride 💙💙
I personally LOVE this ride, I had fast passes when I rode it so I didn't deal with the line, and front row is the best!
I agree with you. I would rather had seen them buildssomething like Lightning Rod or Goliath than this. This and Banshee were 2 designs that B&M had pretty much haven't built in about 10 years, so when they made these updated version's they did a pretty good job. I prefer Banshee over Valravn though.
Now those two inversions have been beaten by Steel Curtain’s first inversion.
I just went to Cedar Point and I say Valravn is the second best ride there. The number one is Maverick. I think Valravn is the best B&M at Cedar Point.
Coaster Nano it is
I’d give this coaster a 10 out of 10
Great Review, only thing I would contest is that the drop feels like the other dive coasters... personally I really was shocked how much more force Valraven's drop seemed to have than Griffon, which I also rode this year.
This, Yukon Striker, Emperor, Valkyria, Dr. Diabolical’s Cliffhanger, and Iron Menace all break the number 1 rule for dive coasters: Do NOT put vest restraints on dive coasters. Hence, why I like Griffon and SheiKra better.
I sat in back row twice (and front once) and the hold in the front is pretty awesome, but in the back it's like jumping off a building! You pull down very quick on the top, and I prefer the back on most good CP coasters, especially Maverick and Millennium Force. Do you agree?
*back, far side edge on Valravn
I like the back on all coasters anywhere.
Heres a question i've always had:
Are dive coaster tracks bigger in width than standard b&m track?
I would assume so given the size of the cars, but the track for standard B&M inverts is already so huge I can't even imagine it being much bigger.
Canada Absolutely. Valravn's track is massively wide (6.5 feet).
I stand by that the structure around these rides is what makes them... Griffin's bridge or sheikra's village and jungle theme are why they are superior and I have ridden all 3 in the US multiple times
My most favorite element on valravn is the dive loop.
I love Griffon the most!
SheiKra is equivalent.
The first Drop is Amazing!
The enthusiasts .... sister Please!! 😝
#1 Maverick
#2 Gatekeeper
#3 Valravn
#4 Top thrill dragster
#5 iron dragon
lol damn, is Millennium Force really that underwhelming?
I personally liked Valravn since it is the only dive coaster I've ridden. So I placed it in probably #3 for favorite rides at CP. (I'm not GP FYI)LOL
You want to try Oblvion at Alton Towers in the UK. It is bad all you get is a 60ft drop strait down then it disappears underground for ten seconds then after a banking curve strait into the brake run, the ride lasts 30 seconds. All that after a two hour line der.
Andrew Burton-Fullick are you joking? Oblivion was the very first dive coaster, so it won't have any extra elements and oblivion has a drop of 150+ feet! The tunnel is there for a reason, Alton towers has a height restriction
When I was there it was horrible hearing all the gp saying things like. Oh! Valravn goes down straight and it's just a glorious ride
Airtime is a MUST!
If you love themed roller coasters, go visit Efteling in the Netherlands!
when i rode it i experienced alot of airtime. also if you ask the staff you can choose your row. it may have been because i went on a good week where the line on valravn was like 20 minutes and everything else had like 5 minute lines
if you get a group of 8 while waiting in line that agree on which row to sit in, the ride operator will let you take that row to save time trying to fill each row during the loading of the previous train, and ps, back row is where it is at!!
It’s a fun ride but very forceless the best part is the inversion at the end
Aka the 270 degree roll
it's year 1 for this ride, gatekeeper was the same way, I'm giving either end of next year or 2017 that this will be a 30 minute line, I'm expecting this to be about how long the wait for raptor is when the hype calms down. I personally like this more than griffon due to the phenomenal view you get from the 2 drops, griffon is a better "ride" but I feel valravn is a better overall package due to it opening up the blue streak midway which was always a dead end, how much you can walk through the ride through the midway, and you can get some great views from raptor from the midway. also from walking around the park I noticed that in a few areas they cut down a branch from a few trees so you are able to see the first drop from around the whole park and I thought that that was REALLY smart.
I completely agree!
I agree because I hated the theater. I don't know if you went when the theater was still there but it was the ugliest thing. I am still mad that they took out wildcat because that was better than Iron Dragon
this ride would have been so much better with the old restraints though
*Valravn
I wish B&M could keep the restraint part of the vest restraints, because I love the shape of the restraint itself, and how it locks at your thighs, but put straps like Intamin did with Mav, Storm Runner, Fahrenheit, etc. It would be a lot more open and would still be safe. I don't get why B&M put huge vests on the new restraint, but, it's beyond me.
Great Ride
I think that Valravn is a good ride, but with getting a floor less coaster just last year. I think that a B&M flyer would’ve been better, or even a GCI woodie. I still like it though and it’s my sixth favorite coaster