I love how in a movie where the earths core stops rotating, causing all sorts of wild effects, and one man designs a craft that can take some people down into the earth's core and restart it using nukes, people still pick fault of certain aspects of a 6min scene that beyond the usual dramatic parts is actually one of the more realistic parts of the whole thing.
you cant land in that river, thats where the bikers do their drug deals, I know this cause of the gta online mission that has me stealing their product
YES. I just played this video to hear it as for some reason it was in my head today. that tune that starts when the shuttle fly over the baseball stadium is sooo good!
This has always been my favorite transition in any movie. Such a beautiful view of zooming into the Earth and seeing the Space Shuttle fly over you. Absolutely amazing!
Things which are right(ish) about this scene: - to deorbit a shuttle does turn tail first and upside down and then uses two motors to slow down which causes it to lose veocity and slowly fall into the atmosphere where air resistance does the rest - the shuttle seems to be descending with its nose up at a fairly high angle, that is also correct because only the bottom and front have a heat shield - if a real crew found out that they are 129 miles off course at 15 000 feet high they really would not be able to correct it and make their original runway - during descent the shuttle does temporarily lose all communication with ground because of the ionized plasma around it EDIT: The shuttle used to lose communication during descent but thanks to a system of satellites put in place later and an antenna on top of the hull which doesnt get that hot it would not have hapenned by the time the movie occurs. Thanks to OtakuMage for making me aware of that. - at 15 000 feet above ground the shuttle would indeed have 2 minutes or less of flight time given that it decends at 150 vertical feet per second (not a typo, it really falls that fast, it only glides about as well as a helicopter which ran out of fuel) - it descends at a fairly large angle of about 20 degrees so I guess its (at least when using movie logic where crazy plans tend to work) plausible to luckily land it between the bridges provided you are OK with it being a hard landing - the shuttle does flare significantly before touching down (it raises it's nose up) to bleed of vertical and horizontal velocity -landing gear gets dropped fifteen seconds before touchdown, here it was more like twenty but that is still pretty close - the shuttle does have an air brake on its tail -later they say the shuttle was destroyed, which it definitely would be Things which are wrong about this scene: - the backwards deorbit burn takes three minutes, not like half a second -then it takes thirty minutes of gradually descending before anything noteworthy happens - the shuttle will do several steep banking turns to bleed off velocity and altitude - the pilot (in the right seat who doesn't fly the shuttle) would be talking the commander (in the left seat, he flies the shuttle) through the landing, reading out the altitude for him - the whole landing takes like an hour, not just a few minutes - in real life there are a million other things I missed or didn't want to mention because if which they would most likely die - it would have been more practical and fairly safe for everyone involved to just point the shuttle somewhere blue or green (no houses thus no people to kill) and jump out. The shuttle has an autopilot which would allow it to glide safely into the sea or an unpopulated area and the crew has parachutes and a hatch they can blow to jump out off. So... Given that this isn't a movie about space or about shuttles and the landing is just a plot device to introduce two new characters and set them up as brave and competent... it's actually OK. Clearly they weren't going for a highly realistic portrayal but they also must have done some research about this and it does show. I would call it semi-realistic as in they clearly started with the actual landing procedure and then changed it to fit the scene they wanted to have. You can see that they do know what it is supposed to look like and most importantly they captured the sense of urgency a real crew would have felt in this situation. They did a really good job at showing how very little time there would be during an emergency landing to think of a solution. If this was shown in a dedicated space movie I wouldn't like it but in the context of a very over the top catastrophic movie it is good.
As much as I love your dissection of this scene, you made one big error. Comms blackouts never happened for the shuttles. By the time they were in service there were hundreds of high orbit communication satellites. The plasma formed on re-entry is only on the ventral side of the hull, so by having an antenna on the dorsal side and bouncing the signal off the satellite, comms never went down.
I may be late but this is one of the most informative things I've ever read, especially since you account for the fact that some of the actions were plot devices. thank you
It is a testament to the quality of acting in this scene, that there are so little special effects and outside sequences to show the actual drama of the situation, the effect relies almost entirely on the timing and reactions of the actors. This kind of small scale interactive setting has been overlooked in more recent films and is much more reminding of older style screen plays.
I don't care how unrealistic the scene is or the fact you can't gear up landing wheels when it's down the music definitely set the mood of how serious this is... in a Sci-fi sense o3o
This scene shows exactly the reason why captains are always the final say on their ships. When you are in the hot seat, as he explains to beck, you have to make the difficult decisions that may not result in the best outcome. Nobody on the ground has any idea what’s going on in that pod, they can’t make the kind of split second decisions needed. The captain is always the last word on the ship.
Even though this scene is unrealistic, but I always found very well-crafted and entertaining. The design and replicas of the Shuttle and Misson Control are spot on. And with a little bit of coincidence, Endeavour, the fifth and last Shuttle built, is resting in Los Angeles, California. What a world.
Muy buena película.En cuanto al Transbordador "Endeavour" fue ensamblado en las instalaciones de Rockwell International cerca de Pasadena California con el nombre clave de "OV-105" si no estoy mal....
Tbh while the scenario is unlikely it isn't that unrealistic. Sure, attitude adjustment isn't that fast, reentry takes a lot longer (although you can explain that one away with cuts) but they got quite a lot of things right, like the speedbrakes, mentioning the chute, loss of contact during reentry due to plasma occlusion.
And solved it with definitely Pike's style🤣 I can almost imagine Pike say the same word and do the same thing when he found the executive shuttle he flew get f*cked on navigation and going straight torwards San Fransisico at Mach 5
The actress who plays stick is incredibly underrated, and has been in so many important secondary rolls through her career. She played the drunken mother of Tara in true blood most recently. Even though this is a very small role she plays it perfectly, and it is so refreshing to see a accomplished black woman in a position of control and authority at this time in media.
There is one thing in the book that the movie forgot to add. When the paper drops in front of Commander Iverson, he casually says, "I hope our insurance is paid up."
Agreed. The beginning of this movie made no logical sense WHATSOEVER. Happily it straightens up after this and the rest of the movie is completely compatible with our state of knowledge of physics, engineering and geology at the time of the film's release in 1642 AD.
3:49 Would’ve loved to hear Vin Scully’s call on that... “The 3-1 pitch coming from Hampton, and Green fouls it away. And the Endeavour Space Shuttle flying over Dodger Stadium, boy I haven’t seen that in a long time!” “Anyway, 3-2 the count to Shawn Green.”
"The nose and main landing gear can only be retracted during ground operations" - STS Reference Manual by NASA. In other words: Gear retraction (5:51) is not possible during flight. Sincerely, an aeronautical engineer.
+Robert Smithers Those small scientific details make a scifi movie great. Look at movies like Gravity, Interstellar or even 2001: A space odyssey. And even if the retraction of the gear was possible during flight, there would be no possibility to retract it when the wheels are on the ground.
There is a big difference between getting major physics concepts right making a sci fi film more compelling and getting a minor technical factoid wrong to add dramatic flair to a scene. I'm not disputing whether or not the landing gear can be raised in flight or on the ground, I'm disputing whether it matters in an action film if not every detail of every vehicle is 100% correct. You clearly think it does, I am a big space vehicle buff and I don't care if a few minor technical details are altered to add dramatic effect.
+Bolle ke there were almost no scientific details in the first two of those movies, and certainly no plausibility. Can tell an engineer, not an astrophysicist. It's also impossible to land the shuttle in the river culvert, that's what makes it fun. Remove stick from arse before enjoyable cheesy disaster movie.
Everytime I see that scene, I always think the shuttle will crash into that scaffold at the end lol. Poor guy on the scaffold, probably had a heart attack when he turned and saw the shuttle directly in front of him
+Donald Dalpian I was always waiting for the forward RCS thrusters to fire, to make the final stop, and blow the poor unsuspecting worker right off his perch
If Kerbin had Cities we would see a lot of stuff like this. Thankfully my people have figured out the correct order: Space Program first, Civilization later
Cyramor11 I'm going to check if this also happens on 100% vanilla KSP. I mean my last Vessel had quite a large part count (Cockpit, Living Quarters, Life Support, Lab, 2 Landers, Electrics, Tanks, Propulsion) but the framerate was okay around Kerbin (at about 25). The farer my vessel moved away from Kerbin and got closer to Duna the worse it became until it reached something around 5 FPS
I remember watching this trailer in Feb 2003 with the shuttle scenes shown. Some were like "Is this Shuttle Columbia?" (Remember we lost 7 astronauts when the real Shuttle Columbia disintegrated shortly after reentry in Febuary 2003).
I just love how he says we can't use the parashoot. It'll rip off the tail. Then continues to lose the wings, the tail and all kinds of damage to the bottom. Good thing we didn't use the parashoot brakes though. Saved the day.
i'm sorry this is 100% not at all realistic ive lived in la all my life and i guarantee the los angeles river does not have that much water in it that is all
I forgot about that Gamerboy. The weight on wheels switch is active, they can only come back up when the weight off wheels switch is active. Good call.
The near-death of scaffolding guy hits a bit different after the Scott Key Bridge accident resulted in the death of several construction workers who didn't hear the call to get off the bridge.
It annoys me so much when scriptwriters make these decisions... if they deployed the parachute, the brackets or cables would brake/snap if they snagged something well before the tail would have broken off, to my understanding.
Most annoying part is how the the gal (can't recall her name) took the blame for the failed shuttle landing and it pretty much ruined her career. That shuttle and crew only survived because of her. But plot wise, it was a cheap move to create a skilled but disgraced pilot that was "perfect" for a suicide mission.
Commander: "our wingspan alone will not be enough" Astronaut 2: "I calculated the L/D max, we can make it" So apparently the lift to drag ratio is enough to shrink the wingspan of the space shift so that they can make it through the bridge, physics checks out.
She apperantly means the glide slope. If preflare doing steep enough they can barely cleared the "several hundred yards" distance between the bridge and land between them. The wingspan.... well, we can see that's actually enough since the shuttle didn't scratched anywhere except the right wingtip.
Quite a lede for such a geology-focused plotline, in a film - and some remarkable acting IMO. Great CGI on the Deorbit maneuver, too. Looking forward to seeing the film. TY PCMag for explaining how this scene fits into the film's narrative timeline. Shoutout to Edgar Rice Burroughs
Day R Yeah that doesn't mean they can't pitch down or turn around. In fact the Shuttle usually turned around to land at Kennedy Space Center in Florida.
Alexandre Fyne Yes, with very small margin for error. They also can't bail, shuttle doesn't have an abort system like that. In fact, that's why the Challenger crew died, because they survived the explosion, the flight cbcvabin went flying, but they had no way to bail
And keep in mind that they were way off course. A plane that had engines could have corrected itself, but an unpowered glider would have needed to lose a lot of speed to get to the base, speed that it needs to not fall out of the sky
Instead of turning for the ocean, where their are no people, lets land it in the LA River right in the middle of the city to maximize casualties... lol
For the sequence of "Shuttle Crash", from the movie "The Core", I think this movie was visual effects done made by with this Australian visual effects company that goes by the name of "Rising Sun Pictures".
+Derek Wall That's the launch cost, which includes all that fuel, the external tank and the SRBs. The shuttle by itself would cost significantly less, probably only around 100 million (wild guess), but yeah, they generally prefer a broken shuttle and living astronauts over an intact shuttle and dead astronauts...
how many wanna bet that despite that little incident with the shuttle, that millions of kids were soon lining up in the street to have their picture taken with a bunch of astronauts who basically landed right in the middle of their hometown?
+RazordraacGaming Actually... yes it can. The shuttle not only performs several banking maneuvers during re-entry, but actually performs a complete turn before final landing approach.
The black girl from Star Trek first contact before she worked for Zefram Cochrane used to work at NASA and Captain Pike before he joined Star Fleet used to be a shuttle pilot. True story.
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I don’t even have to be a NASA engineer to know you’d never see that many people working on a public project in Los Angeles.
Naw, back in '03 there was briefly a city rule where every public works employee had a free CGI helper.
They were also all actually working.....not standing around like normal city workers.
What time mark?
Also it would be a immigrant worker not white
Now they would have their cell phone at the ready recording it.
Flight Officer: It's theoretically possible.
Flight Director: It's confirmed.
I love this lady! 😂😂😂
I love how in a movie where the earths core stops rotating, causing all sorts of wild effects, and one man designs a craft that can take some people down into the earth's core and restart it using nukes, people still pick fault of certain aspects of a 6min scene that beyond the usual dramatic parts is actually one of the more realistic parts of the whole thing.
Yes, what you said. This ain't 2001: a Space Odyssey, it's THE CORE. The ridiculousness of it is part of the fun. It's MADE for geeks like us.
this is why movie categorized as an entertainment..
@@AlanCanon2222 plus its a fun scene
So true man, this is literally the most realistic scene in modern media, of what it would be like if that thing actually decided to take a dive.
you cant land in that river, thats where the bikers do their drug deals, I know this cause of the gta online mission that has me stealing their product
I absolutely loved the soundtrack for this scene. Something about the synths when the view is outside of the ship hits the right spots for me.
The soundtrack was perfect for the scene. This scene should have been inserted at the start of the movie ,your attention is captured immediately.
YES. I just played this video to hear it as for some reason it was in my head today. that tune that starts when the shuttle fly over the baseball stadium is sooo good!
This has always been my favorite transition in any movie. Such a beautiful view of zooming into the Earth and seeing the Space Shuttle fly over you. Absolutely amazing!
Things which are right(ish) about this scene:
- to deorbit a shuttle does turn tail first and upside down and then uses two motors to slow down which causes it to lose veocity and slowly fall into the atmosphere where air resistance does the rest
- the shuttle seems to be descending with its nose up at a fairly high angle, that is also correct because only the bottom and front have a heat shield
- if a real crew found out that they are 129 miles off course at 15 000 feet high they really would not be able to correct it and make their original runway
- during descent the shuttle does temporarily lose all communication with ground because of the ionized plasma around it
EDIT: The shuttle used to lose communication during descent but thanks to a system of satellites put in place later and an antenna on top of the hull which doesnt get that hot it would not have hapenned by the time the movie occurs. Thanks to OtakuMage for making me aware of that.
- at 15 000 feet above ground the shuttle would indeed have 2 minutes or less of flight time given that it decends at 150 vertical feet per second (not a typo, it really falls that fast, it only glides about as well as a helicopter which ran out of fuel)
- it descends at a fairly large angle of about 20 degrees so I guess its (at least when using movie logic where crazy plans tend to work) plausible to luckily land it between the bridges provided you are OK with it being a hard landing
- the shuttle does flare significantly before touching down (it raises it's nose up) to bleed of vertical and horizontal velocity
-landing gear gets dropped fifteen seconds before touchdown, here it was more like twenty but that is still pretty close
- the shuttle does have an air brake on its tail
-later they say the shuttle was destroyed, which it definitely would be
Things which are wrong about this scene:
- the backwards deorbit burn takes three minutes, not like half a second
-then it takes thirty minutes of gradually descending before anything noteworthy happens
- the shuttle will do several steep banking turns to bleed off velocity and altitude
- the pilot (in the right seat who doesn't fly the shuttle) would be talking the commander (in the left seat, he flies the shuttle) through the landing, reading out the altitude for him
- the whole landing takes like an hour, not just a few minutes
- in real life there are a million other things I missed or didn't want to mention because if which they would most likely die
- it would have been more practical and fairly safe for everyone involved to just point the shuttle somewhere blue or green (no houses thus no people to kill) and jump out. The shuttle has an autopilot which would allow it to glide safely into the sea or an unpopulated area and the crew has parachutes and a hatch they can blow to jump out off.
So... Given that this isn't a movie about space or about shuttles and the landing is just a plot device to introduce two new characters and set them up as brave and competent... it's actually OK. Clearly they weren't going for a highly realistic portrayal but they also must have done some research about this and it does show. I would call it semi-realistic as in they clearly started with the actual landing procedure and then changed it to fit the scene they wanted to have. You can see that they do know what it is supposed to look like and most importantly they captured the sense of urgency a real crew would have felt in this situation. They did a really good job at showing how very little time there would be during an emergency landing to think of a solution. If this was shown in a dedicated space movie I wouldn't like it but in the context of a very over the top catastrophic movie it is good.
As much as I love your dissection of this scene, you made one big error.
Comms blackouts never happened for the shuttles. By the time they were in service there were hundreds of high orbit communication satellites. The plasma formed on re-entry is only on the ventral side of the hull, so by having an antenna on the dorsal side and bouncing the signal off the satellite, comms never went down.
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I may be late but this is one of the most informative things I've ever read, especially since you account for the fact that some of the actions were plot devices. thank you
The Gear con not be pulled up again when it's down...
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It is a testament to the quality of acting in this scene, that there are so little special effects and outside sequences to show the actual drama of the situation, the effect relies almost entirely on the timing and reactions of the actors. This kind of small scale interactive setting has been overlooked in more recent films and is much more reminding of older style screen plays.
That synth in the back stays with me man
I don't care how unrealistic the scene is or the fact you can't gear up landing wheels when it's down the music definitely set the mood of how serious this is... in a Sci-fi sense o3o
This scene shows exactly the reason why captains are always the final say on their ships. When you are in the hot seat, as he explains to beck, you have to make the difficult decisions that may not result in the best outcome. Nobody on the ground has any idea what’s going on in that pod, they can’t make the kind of split second decisions needed. The captain is always the last word on the ship.
Almost a decade after this movie, Endeavor did "land" in Los Angeles. What a coincidence!
Fortunately, not in the LA River.
Even though this scene is unrealistic, but I always found very well-crafted and entertaining. The design and replicas of the Shuttle and Misson Control are spot on. And with a little bit of coincidence, Endeavour, the fifth and last Shuttle built, is resting in Los Angeles, California. What a world.
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Muy buena película.En cuanto al Transbordador "Endeavour" fue ensamblado en las instalaciones de Rockwell International cerca de Pasadena California con el nombre clave de "OV-105" si no estoy mal....
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Tbh while the scenario is unlikely it isn't that unrealistic. Sure, attitude adjustment isn't that fast, reentry takes a lot longer (although you can explain that one away with cuts) but they got quite a lot of things right, like the speedbrakes, mentioning the chute, loss of contact during reentry due to plasma occlusion.
Yes Dysneyland movies are 'always unrealistic'
Completely ridiculous, but so COOOL.
And this from a space shuttle nerd.
Admiral Christopher Pike's ancestor making a phenomenal landing.
I know right? 😂
Reminds me of a line from star trek...you just took an epic beating....lol
jj takovym kravinam verit 😀
And solved it with definitely Pike's style🤣
I can almost imagine Pike say the same word and do the same thing when he found the executive shuttle he flew get f*cked on navigation and going straight torwards San Fransisico at Mach 5
A well executed scene to introduce the main characters.
I loved the calm patois of the crew in the space shuttle emergency. I'm a helicopter pilot. It was very believable for me.
Hands down the best scene in the film. You can watch it a hundred times and still be on the edge of your seat every time.
6:36 (in the book) Commander: “Tell me we are insured.”
Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there...
@@AngieMarie985I’ve opened a portal for you to go back to your original universe after atleast 4 years
The actress who plays stick is incredibly underrated, and has been in so many important secondary rolls through her career. She played the drunken mother of Tara in true blood most recently. Even though this is a very small role she plays it perfectly, and it is so refreshing to see a accomplished black woman in a position of control and authority at this time in media.
She also played Zephram Cochranes assistant in Star Trek First Contact
@@mikeb6902 JFC bro you’re right, I didn’t even realize that was Lily, you totally just out trekked me.
@@mikeb6902I never knew that. Learn something new every day.
c'mon people, use her name: Alfre Woodard
@@FletchBrendanGood Thanks for letting us know!
Despite being… well honestly the movie isn’t great… this whole scene is thrilling. Like heart pounding levels of thrilling.
A real "light the fires, kick the tires" kind of scene. High thick stakes.
There is one thing in the book that the movie forgot to add. When the paper drops in front of Commander Iverson, he casually says, "I hope our insurance is paid up."
Even if it's unrealistic, it had my heart racing.
This is how Space Shuttle Endeavour got to the California Science Center. True Story.
which year?
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2003
it says in the desc
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@AJS THUNDER oh
No it's not!
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Another happy landing
Ratio Tile: The nobody greets.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Anakin: Do I know how to land what's left of this thing?
Dang it I was about to say that! 😂😂😂
Hello there.
Totally unrealistic. I mean - how many workers on that scaffolding? You never see anyone working on public road works, let alone 9 guys at once!
Also it's rush hour and there's baseball on?
Agreed. The beginning of this movie made no logical sense WHATSOEVER. Happily it straightens up after this and the rest of the movie is completely compatible with our state of knowledge of physics, engineering and geology at the time of the film's release in 1642 AD.
Gee. A sci-fi movie which is unrealistic. How about that.
to be fair only one guy was working, that's why he didn't notice to run away.
@@fess9867 yeah
one of the best crash-landing-scenes I´ve ever seen in my life!
6:42, I don't know why but that shot is so great
I think what stands out to me is you don't often see depictions of just how massive the shuttle is in media like that
Thank you so much for uploading this! It's one of my all-time favorite scenes and I know it entirely by heart. :-)
Best scene in the whole movie.
For me, the whole movie was the best scene, great movie.
“Hang on, this isn’t going to be subtle!”
3:49 Would’ve loved to hear Vin Scully’s call on that...
“The 3-1 pitch coming from Hampton, and Green fouls it away. And the Endeavour Space Shuttle flying over Dodger Stadium, boy I haven’t seen that in a long time!”
“Anyway, 3-2 the count to Shawn Green.”
"The nose and main landing gear can only be retracted during ground operations" - STS Reference Manual by NASA.
In other words: Gear retraction (5:51) is not possible during flight.
Sincerely, an aeronautical engineer.
+Bolle ke It's a movie.
Sincerely, a watcher of movies.
+Robert Smithers Those small scientific details make a scifi movie great. Look at movies like Gravity, Interstellar or even 2001: A space odyssey. And even if the retraction of the gear was possible during flight, there would be no possibility to retract it when the wheels are on the ground.
There is a big difference between getting major physics concepts right making a sci fi film more compelling and getting a minor technical factoid wrong to add dramatic flair to a scene. I'm not disputing whether or not the landing gear can be raised in flight or on the ground, I'm disputing whether it matters in an action film if not every detail of every vehicle is 100% correct. You clearly think it does, I am a big space vehicle buff and I don't care if a few minor technical details are altered to add dramatic effect.
+Bolle ke there were almost no scientific details in the first two of those movies, and certainly no plausibility. Can tell an engineer, not an astrophysicist. It's also impossible to land the shuttle in the river culvert, that's what makes it fun. Remove stick from arse before enjoyable cheesy disaster movie.
Gravity is not a good example for a scientifically accurate movie.
Everytime I see that scene, I always think the shuttle will crash into that scaffold at the end lol. Poor guy on the scaffold, probably had a heart attack when he turned and saw the shuttle directly in front of him
+Donald Dalpian I was always waiting for the forward RCS thrusters to fire, to make the final stop, and blow the poor unsuspecting worker right off his perch
didnt have a heart attack, but more than likely had to go change his underwear
Activate KSP jokes
If Kerbin had Cities we would see a lot of stuff like this. Thankfully my people have figured out the correct order: Space Program first, Civilization later
*****
Figuring out how to restore a playable framerate after switching to our crew revolving around Duna
keep me updated, facing similar problems
Cyramor11
I'm going to check if this also happens on 100% vanilla KSP. I mean my last Vessel had quite a large part count (Cockpit, Living Quarters, Life Support, Lab, 2 Landers, Electrics, Tanks, Propulsion) but the framerate was okay around Kerbin (at about 25). The farer my vessel moved away from Kerbin and got closer to Duna the worse it became until it reached something around 5 FPS
In KSP you die anyway when you touch the ground :D
jebediah just did a little mistake
+Lukaselin Altkanava Yeah Jeb just have some mis calculation in orbit this counts as Perfect landing WOO zhOO
And be ensured he paid for it!
Kerbal Dude A N O T H E R H A P P Y L A N D I N G
That's why one should use MechJeb
This wouldn't have happened if they had just gone ahead and added... MOAR BOOSTERS
First time I saw this movie was on and international flight ... and they edited out this entire sequence! Best part of the movie!
I remember watching this trailer in Feb 2003 with the shuttle scenes shown.
Some were like "Is this Shuttle Columbia?"
(Remember we lost 7 astronauts when the real Shuttle Columbia disintegrated shortly after reentry in Febuary 2003).
The movie's release in theatres was delayed due to the Columbia disaster.
One of my all time favorites!
Captain pike in his star fleet cadet days
bro just landed a shuttle in the downtown of LA, impressed the Starfleet and get the command of the Enterprise
I just love how he says we can't use the parashoot. It'll rip off the tail. Then continues to lose the wings, the tail and all kinds of damage to the bottom. Good thing we didn't use the parashoot brakes though. Saved the day.
Deleted scene: After the shuttle lands, LA Gangs stripped the shuttle for spare parts!
That is just a cover story, it was actually art grad students who were getting ready for an exhibition at MOCA.
Man he hit that ball hard...
3:56
*insert airforceproud95 fly over voices*
Haha yes!
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Clickco Cookie?
-Blue Angel 6- Endeavour, you just buzzed an LA baseball stadium, and i'm going to have to request that you NEVER, EVER do that again!
don't you mean groundpound69?
I just watched this movie today ... Loved it
The coolest scene in a movie ever!
WTF is this? Space shuttle mod for GTA V?
how could it look like gta v ?????
WTF are you 11 year old gta v kid?
Maybe i am 11 but iam probably smarter than you. Also, how could i know so much english when i am from romania?
+This Crazy Gamer sorry but i was in a rush
+This Crazy Gamer for lunch
Such a good movie this was.
reaction in the baseball ground "well that's something you don't see every day"
Unless they're from new York. Than it's "Ahh I've seen it before."
Why you never turn at Albuquerque...
+mindlessgonzo why do you need to tell us you're not a clopper what omg what is this
Re what does that have to do with this?
+mindlessgonzo nothing i just see you everywhere and i wanted to ask because its weird its the first thing i see if i go over your avatar
+mindlessgonzo Should have taken a left turn at Albuquerque. lol
The traffic sucks here lol
one of my favourite scenes in this movie :)
i'm sorry this is 100% not at all realistic
ive lived in la all my life and i guarantee the los angeles river does not have that much water in it
that is all
LOL,
That's hilarious. It really is the LA trench.
True, but you also can't put the gear back up after you put it down.
I forgot about that Gamerboy. The weight on wheels switch is active, they can only come back up when the weight off wheels switch is active. Good call.
They can never come back by the crew in the shuttle! Never! :)
The famous "gear up" switch in the shuttle....
Now that’s an emergency landing
Oh, I just realized you actually see the aircraft go off course slightly to the right before it disappears off the radar, dats neat.
Holy crap I don't remember this. That was intense.
As a superintelligent Elder AI beer can who's had some experience with space travel, I can confirm there are absolutely no inaccuracies in this video.
Of course it's unrealistic. Ironically. Endeavor is on static display at Exposition Park in South Los Angeles
The near-death of scaffolding guy hits a bit different after the Scott Key Bridge accident resulted in the death of several construction workers who didn't hear the call to get off the bridge.
Jeb Kerman could have landed that smoother, just sayin'
i'm pretty sure Jeb could land the ISS on a dime, shock heating be damned.
As a glider, the shuttle actually has far greater lattitude for landing on it's descent. Well, that's Hollywood for you :0)
Isn't there an airport in LA?
The runway would be far too short for the space shuttle.
W7KMS Not with parachutes.
Dash No, any of the LAX runways would still be WAYYYYY too short for a shuttle.
Logan Mainord I guess you're right
Dash
The shortest runway at LAX is 8900 feet long and the shuttle needs about 8000 feet to stop, so it would be possible.
"Can you clear a freeway"
😂😂😂 in LA????
[Insert KSP joke here]
+TiTanAEfull Jeb's first flight.
+Jože Ivešić Much flight, Such Landing Wow Pilotskills :D
+TiTanAEfull You can't park here.
+TiTanAEfull God dammit, I missed the runway again!
Just another day at the office with Bill, Bob, and new kerbalnaut Valentina.-Jebediah Kerman
your working your everyday job then suddenly a wild spaceshuttle appeared from no where .. what a scene...
6:30 - Didn't know the Shuttle had a jet engine.
I think that was the guy's saw as it was powering down.
A drill
It was the saw powering down not the shuttle lmao
This is as realistic as Polar Express drift scene. But that what makes it so good
smallest spaceshuttle ever seen
Space shuttle endeavour was the smallest of the shuttles Thant is bieng the largest endeavour was 115 feet Atlantis bieng 127 feet long
i just loved this movie . sure it has its flaws but i have seen it countless times.
... What happened to the parachute?
It annoys me so much when scriptwriters make these decisions... if they deployed the parachute, the brackets or cables would brake/snap if they snagged something well before the tail would have broken off, to my understanding.
Joe N. yeah, plus they don't need that tail anymore than they need the gear
I would say this is some bull crap to this event.
The pilots explicitly state they can't deploy it.
The beginning of this movie was the best.
Pretty normal landing for me in KSP
Most annoying part is how the the gal (can't recall her name) took the blame for the failed shuttle landing and it pretty much ruined her career. That shuttle and crew only survived because of her.
But plot wise, it was a cheap move to create a skilled but disgraced pilot that was "perfect" for a suicide mission.
Commander: "our wingspan alone will not be enough"
Astronaut 2: "I calculated the L/D max, we can make it"
So apparently the lift to drag ratio is enough to shrink the wingspan of the space shift so that they can make it through the bridge, physics checks out.
She apperantly means the glide slope. If preflare doing steep enough they can barely cleared the "several hundred yards" distance between the bridge and land between them.
The wingspan.... well, we can see that's actually enough since the shuttle didn't scratched anywhere except the right wingtip.
Quite a lede for such a geology-focused plotline, in a film - and some remarkable acting IMO. Great CGI on the Deorbit maneuver, too. Looking forward to seeing the film. TY PCMag for explaining how this scene fits into the film's narrative timeline. Shoutout to Edgar Rice Burroughs
Turn to the ocean and bail, goddamn! Anyways, they reacted slow, at the altitude over the stadium they'd be down in six seconds.
filipinordabest They can't do it, once the shuttle re-enters they become a glider. A glider at orbital speed that is
Let alone a glider that can't even bank.
Day R Yeah that doesn't mean they can't pitch down or turn around. In fact the Shuttle usually turned around to land at Kennedy Space Center in Florida.
Alexandre Fyne Yes, with very small margin for error. They also can't bail, shuttle doesn't have an abort system like that. In fact, that's why the Challenger crew died, because they survived the explosion, the flight cbcvabin went flying, but they had no way to bail
And keep in mind that they were way off course. A plane that had engines could have corrected itself, but an unpowered glider would have needed to lose a lot of speed to get to the base, speed that it needs to not fall out of the sky
So lucky they had a film crew on board to capture this!
wait I thought the space shuttle couldn't put up gear once it put it down....
true when the gear is down it stays down. and the angle of the shuttle is so wrong they would be metled XD
exactly
Fredson Hu they are suppose to put it down at 300 feet or they would have stalled lol. But I guess not.
cinema movies... what do you expect..? ;D
The gear is clearly down once they touched down, they lost the nose gear upon impact though.
Interesting how the last bridge they went under tore the top of the tail off, but it reappeared miraculously when they stopped.
Instead of turning for the ocean, where their are no people, lets land it in the LA River right in the middle of the city to maximize casualties... lol
Damien Mullins up
River is a better place to land than an ocean. It has less waves.
mesoth mesoth the river also has way less water, more bridges and walls, and is a far smaller target
Well ya know they have this one place LAX.
Space shuttle can only divert at Max 5 km from original landing coordinate.
I just randomly remembered this scene today
Wasnt the landing gear unretractable once it was deployed?
Valen Arenas true, they used it for dramatic events though
It is
Yes but nevertheless the commander was such a badass the shuttle couldn't help but obey his commands
For the sequence of "Shuttle Crash", from the movie "The Core", I think this movie was visual effects done made by with this Australian visual effects company that goes by the name of "Rising Sun Pictures".
seriously Jeb, how can you miscalculate your approach?
After Endeavour came to a stop and LAPD arrived, I wanted the next lines to be, "Get out of the vehicle! NOW! SHOW ME YOUR HANDS!"
I doubt they'd ever attempt something like that, the space shuttle is $2,000,000,000 bird
Probably in simulations, they simulate everything
Derek Wall If its an emergency, and there is no other landing strips, then they will be forced to land in a big spillway or the Los Angeles river
+Derek Wall They would if they had no other choice. The alternative would be certain destruction, this is at least a shot.
10 dollars more then apollo
+Derek Wall That's the launch cost, which includes all that fuel, the external tank and the SRBs. The shuttle by itself would cost significantly less, probably only around 100 million (wild guess), but yeah, they generally prefer a broken shuttle and living astronauts over an intact shuttle and dead astronauts...
how many wanna bet that despite that little incident with the shuttle, that millions of kids were soon lining up in the street to have their picture taken with a bunch of astronauts who basically landed right in the middle of their hometown?
Underrated movie.
Love that scene and the music tnat went with it
The Shuttle cannot glide this well. It's essentially a flying brick IRL.
+RazordraacGaming Actually... yes it can. The shuttle not only performs several banking maneuvers during re-entry, but actually performs a complete turn before final landing approach.
The best comparison I've heard so far is that it has the gliding characteristics of a concert grand :P
K1productions yes, but that's while it's still high up probably while they're still in the Strato or Mesosphere
If you call THAT gliding... That's falling WITHOUT style
RazordraacGaming /waves to DARPA.FWIW Secure World Foundation on WWW has some dox, so to speak, abt USAF current projects. Shoutout to FAS
The damn music. It's so beautiful.
The black girl from Star Trek first contact before she worked for Zefram Cochrane used to work at NASA and Captain Pike before he joined Star Fleet used to be a shuttle pilot. True story.
What’s terrifying is that this movie was released on the same year that Space Shuttle Columbia was destroyed.
armageddon is more accurate than this.... AND WE ALL KNOW HOW ACCURATE ARMAGEDDON IS
LeBleu
Both big budget, B films. Sorry folks!
LeBleu lol
Hint - it’s called a movie not a documentary
I like Armageddon. One of the big popcorn films I love. It doesn't have to be accurate just entertaining enough.
I can’t help but wonder that at 1:32 The space shuttle is already to the right of course
Is that Ryan Gosling on the bridge scaffolding?
Probably
This is 100% accurate.
Si de cualquier aterrizaje sales caminando, es un buen aterrizaje.
Engineer: you just destroyed an entire shuttle!
Pilot:....
5:31 Grease 3 - space edition