Just a “bit”? It’s a small car. Bloody ridiculous pricing. Honda certainly won’t sell many and the insurance costs will be insane given the difficulty in sourcing parts.
@@Hicham017My 2023 eHEV DOES simulate gear changes in Normal Mode, it’s just that the engine is MUCH less noticeable in this mode to the extent that you don’t notice the momentary “dips” in torque output that simulate automatic gear changes. Obviously, in Sport Mode, the augmented engine sound is more noticeable and you this hear the “gear changes” much more clearly especially at wide throttle openings.
When brake-torqued it programs the system to be as fast as possible so it doesn't fake-shift. Otherwise when simply stomping down the pedal it'll add the fake shifts to sound more "natural". Nissan and Subaru do something similar with their CVTs.
It's launch control. You activate it by turning off traction control, holding the brake, pressing the accelerator to the max until revs hit the soft limiter and then releasing the brake.
I saw an ad for an aftermarket part that made this blue look much more like a pale royal blue/grey. It looked really sharp. Too bad it wasn’t actually real.
Unfortunately, the Civic e:Hev doesn't run with engine + electric motor applying power to the road, it's only one or the other. So even if it had the L15B 1.5 turbo with 201hp as in the Accord, it won't be as quick as the 330e to 200 km/h. But it'll definitely be more adept at high speeds compared to the current 2.0 NA Atkinson setup, probably not as economical though.
Great car but it’s $5-$10k too much. Honda seems to think they are still at their peak of 20 years ago and can charge a premium. It’s sad what Honda have become
It costs more than a golf GTI and hyundai i30N sedan (which rivals the civic type r and is faster in the 1/4 mile and some tracks) and you could have a cerato GT for 35k which imo has just as much lux
The Honda is a high quality product! A WAG, BMW or KIA is not comparable in these terms. Owned TSI engine golf that died on me twice. Cam chain and exhaust failure. Volkswagen was not even recognizing it the second time.
@rafawojcik3011 18's won't help wheel spin , pilot sport 4's and correct suspension set up is key as most modern cars have electronic parking brakes that you can't utilise to load up the transmission and suspension.
Yet again a channel has described this vehicle incorrectly. It does NOT have a CVT, in fact it does NOT have a gearbox. I suggest watching including this channel Ko Yamamoto technical advisor to Honda Europe. Not sure why the research is not done before posting a video, so that viewers are correctly informed.
@@PDriveTV No I don't what I would like is not too call it a CVT as it gives the impression that the car has a gearbox, which it doesn't. As I stated look at the video of Ko Yamamoto.
@@greymark420 I think you're getting confused with Honda's 1.5L e:HEV system as seen in the Jazz/Fit. That does not have a planetary gearset, but instead a fixed ratio and clutch system. This is different. This does include a planetary gearset and it's electronically controlled, an eCVT.
@@PDriveTV I am not getting confused, please look at the video he clearly states the Civic EHEV does not have a gearbox. In fact the sounds of the gears changing are piped through the speakers by software. I have ordered one and did some research into it before placing an order.
What a fantastic drivetrain, and quite a good car overall! Toyota could learn a thing or two by binning that crappy 1.8L Hybrid that they've grandfathered in the Australian market for some reason and making the 2L Hybrid option they use overseas a default.
@@jaredscott4829 Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic car but it is dangerously slow. There is a notorious onramp near my house with traffic control lights. When I rented one to try (before I buy), I had to merge into traffic at 90kph because it couldn't reach 110. 13s 0-100 is scary. It was actually the reason why I bought a Cerato GT instead of the Corolla, and the ZR Corolla Hybrid was cheaper at the time. The Corolla Cross managed to get the 2L Hybrid drivetrain I wanted in the Corolla, and the economy figures would only be off by at most 0.5-1L/100.
@@joytech23 load of rubbish, if you can't merge with it, the drive is the problem. 1l/100km is enormous when you are talking about a vehicle that uses 5l...
@@jaredscott4829 You can't do much more except put your foot to the floor so it's definitely not driver issue. I had the car for two weeks lol I'm just explaining my experience. The ramp from light to merge is 180-220m. The car accelerates from 0-110 in a distance that exceeds that at wide open throttle. I had another Corolla hybrid in the US a few weeks ago, the economy figures were almost identical to the rental I had here. About 0.1-0.4L/100 difference. By the economy thing, I meant I would compromise economy for a more driveable car. As for acceleration I've seen other cars like the Mitsubishi mirage also fail to merge at speed on some onramps and I think a Pajero or landcruiser? It's not just the Corolla Hybrid.
@@joytech23 That is false. You are talking about the old 1.8 hybrid. No the economy is not the same or even close to identical. Your random anecdote doesn't trump actual scientific testing.
I will never understand why 0-100 is such a big thing. What is far more relevant are intermediate accelerations, like 30-50, or 70-100. Those kind of accelerations you do for merging etc.
Gives a good indication of the performance across a wide range of speed. In the real world, drivers care about 0-30 kmh, and maybe 60-100. Some cars will have a very fast launch but struggle at higher speeds, some launch slow but keep pulling. 0-100 can give a fair indication of both in a video like this where you can see the speedo move.
@@michaelcampbell4990 I think intermediate acceleration figures are a far better indication for allround performance. For example, diesel engines never perform well 0-100 because that is not a diesel's strength. But in intermediate acceleration, turbo diesel engines shine. No need to downshift...you just floor the accelerator. I think the 0-100 performance figure is getting too much weight in the overall decision making. Just like the quarter mile, another useless figure unless you want to use your car for drag races
@@mathisnotforthefaintofheart idk about that, my previous car was a diesel and it had an excellent 0-100 time for it's power and weight. But the time itself isn't that useful, you need a video of it so you can see how the car really accelerates. I.e. EVs always get great 0-100 times because they launch so hard, but then the 80-120 kmh time is worse than comparable petrol cars.
@@Brian-ny4pw No, it is not faster. In USA all the people do the 0-60mph test and sometimes with 1ft rollout, that's why you see there under 7 seconds times. In reality though that new Prius has a real 0-100km/h time of about 7.5-7.7 seconds. Which is slower than this Civic.
The link i posted is from a Japanese source. And just because one manufacturer in US does a 1 foot roll out acceleration time doesn’t mean all manufacturers do it and independent reviewers do it.
@@moses7101 same here. and besides Kia K5 or Optima as its known elsewhere, is much better looking car both inside and outside than Civic, and not to mention bigger car with more features... Honda is just delusional ... :D
Lmao, heavy price. I paid one year back 33k € with 5% price discount for the Sport variant. At that point, there where no similiar good car for that price. Just the Toyota Corolla, but for me the honda looks better overall and has better quality
@@53glowe They’re high performance Michelin summer tires (at least I couldn’t see if these were A/S). That unnecessary on a car like this. I’m not saying go cheap. On an Si, fine but all this needs are some Continental touring all seasons
@@lttsr why would you do such a mistake and have all-season tires that are not as good in the summer as a summer tire and not as good in the winter as a winter tire. All-season tires are mediocre tires. Also you probably are confusing Michelin Pilot Sport 4 with 4S. The Pilot Sport 4 is a good choice for this car because Civic has a very capable sporty chassis.
@@silimarina. All seasons are great if you get a good one. Costs less too to not have a dedicated set. Also, it’s a Hybrid Civic and not a Civic Si. It’s a waste of the tire’s capabilities. If you want summer tires on a car like this, get the Primacy 4 or something
Exciting stuff starts at 3:26
You call that exciting?..
@@4maticeperformance4doorcoupe PDriveTV always comments the higlighted timestamp of the video, I started the trend a little while back.
@@4maticeperformance4doorcoupe So why did you click on this video?
@@STIGRS maybe cuz i was wondering how this car sounds? although it was a year ago, i can still feel the disappointment
very cool mix of power and fuel economy - not a bad styling package too. well done Honda
Miles better than the previous gen. The front looks much better
@@aidankreltszheim3599 Nah. 10th gen looked better.
@@googlewolly definitely not.
@@uberefficent3936 Nah, it definitely did.
@@googlewolly its outdated, man
I test drove it, and it’s great for this C segment. I ordered one and should get it in October (1 year waiting time in Europe).
Why did it take so long in Europe?
@@muhammadfajrianto2932 They come from the Japan factory and it seems they are still experiencing heavy semiconductor / parts shortages
@@muhammadfajrianto2932 not sure but I know there is a sales stop of the Civic now in Europe.
When did you order yours?
@@thibaultbernard5240 Beginning October 2022.
I have not seen a bad review of this car yet. Honda seemed to have nailed it.
In fact , just catched one bad review for the 1.5 Turbo version (Oil Leak),
@@parrou3 turbo+cvt is nasty. Hybrid (NA engine+electric motor) is better.
I bought it in Taiwan, and fully satisfied with it
Best civic ever made in recent times
Debatable. It is nice, though.
What about the R
yay the civic hybrid has made a comeback
Wow pretty fast. Looks nice too but just a bit expensive.
I agree 👍
Give me a hyundai i30n sedan / golf gti / wrx wagon
Just a “bit”? It’s a small car. Bloody ridiculous pricing. Honda certainly won’t sell many and the insurance costs will be insane given the difficulty in sourcing parts.
Lol give it time
thanks for the video. Dumb question, what do u mean by stepped gears when u tested the century sprint?
How to dissable the stepped gear change?
You indicate with stepped gearing the time is 1 second more. What does this mean? Is there an option with the gearbox?
It's fake gear shift
A full second shaved off of 0-60 times by not trying to fake gear shifts. Why do car companies do that?
it only does it in Sport mode
@@Hicham017My 2023 eHEV DOES simulate gear changes in Normal Mode, it’s just that the engine is MUCH less noticeable in this mode to the extent that you don’t notice the momentary “dips” in torque output that simulate automatic gear changes. Obviously, in Sport Mode, the augmented engine sound is more noticeable and you this hear the “gear changes” much more clearly especially at wide throttle openings.
Strong hybrid preformance, how can you go from holding rpm to stepped gears doesnt tbe paddles only offer Regen intensity
When brake-torqued it programs the system to be as fast as possible so it doesn't fake-shift. Otherwise when simply stomping down the pedal it'll add the fake shifts to sound more "natural". Nissan and Subaru do something similar with their CVTs.
@@scott8919 No its just sport mode. Makes it slower.
Just watched an accord hybrid video US and I can confirm brake boosting does program it to max power
How do you chose between continuously variable and stepped gearing? I didn't see any mention of how to chose on your website's review.
Is the stepped gears a setting that can be disabled? How do you manage to get the different times?
It's launch control. You activate it by turning off traction control, holding the brake, pressing the accelerator to the max until revs hit the soft limiter and then releasing the brake.
Can you tune it?
How is it Toyota can do a hybrid a full size up for 3/4 the price?
Flat 7 seconds is a very decent number for this car.
I saw an ad for an aftermarket part that made this blue look much more like a pale royal blue/grey. It looked really sharp. Too bad it wasn’t actually real.
This car with an aftermarket turbo kit can give BMW 330e a run for its money.
Unfortunately, the Civic e:Hev doesn't run with engine + electric motor applying power to the road, it's only one or the other. So even if it had the L15B 1.5 turbo with 201hp as in the Accord, it won't be as quick as the 330e to 200 km/h. But it'll definitely be more adept at high speeds compared to the current 2.0 NA Atkinson setup, probably not as economical though.
Can you explain how this hybrid model works and the various modes it has?
What altitude?
Great car but it’s $5-$10k too much. Honda seems to think they are still at their peak of 20 years ago and can charge a premium. It’s sad what Honda have become
It costs more than a golf GTI and hyundai i30N sedan (which rivals the civic type r and is faster in the 1/4 mile and some tracks) and you could have a cerato GT for 35k which imo has just as much lux
The Honda is a high quality product! A WAG, BMW or KIA is not comparable in these terms. Owned TSI engine golf that died on me twice. Cam chain and exhaust failure. Volkswagen was not even recognizing it the second time.
i am very curious how much it consumes on the highway at an alert peace.
6l
why the advanced model is slower than the sport?
Due to the extra weight of the sunroof and other stuff, whereas power remains the same. So yeah, a little bit slower
Great car. How much?
55k+
Skyline v37 hybrid❤
With 0 wheel spin in those 0 to 100kmph the times would improve with narrower tyres , less rolling mass and resistance.
But then you come to a corner😅.
@@perpetualgrin5804which is a bit more important also the wider tyre would help with stopping
Ive got the narrower tyres (17 215/50)and let me tell you wheel spin is an issue - I recommend going for 18 inch instead.
@rafawojcik3011 18's won't help wheel spin , pilot sport 4's and correct suspension set up is key as most modern cars have electronic parking brakes that you can't utilise to load up the transmission and suspension.
I wonder why it never come to Canada 🇨🇦😢
If it is in india ❤
There is no CVT transmission or any other type of transmission. Stop with spreading this nonsense.
Yet again a channel has described this vehicle incorrectly. It does NOT have a CVT, in fact it does NOT have a gearbox. I suggest watching including this channel Ko Yamamoto technical advisor to Honda Europe. Not sure why the research is not done before posting a video, so that viewers are correctly informed.
Honda Australia officially calls it: "Electric Continuously Variable Transmission (E-CVT)".
Do you prefer we write all of that?
@@PDriveTV No I don't what I would like is not too call it a CVT as it gives the impression that the car has a gearbox, which it doesn't. As I stated look at the video of Ko Yamamoto.
@@greymark420 I think you're getting confused with Honda's 1.5L e:HEV system as seen in the Jazz/Fit. That does not have a planetary gearset, but instead a fixed ratio and clutch system. This is different. This does include a planetary gearset and it's electronically controlled, an eCVT.
@@PDriveTV I am not getting confused, please look at the video he clearly states the Civic EHEV does not have a gearbox. In fact the sounds of the gears changing are piped through the speakers by software. I have ordered one and did some research into it before placing an order.
@@greymark420 I couldn't find such a video. I only found one with him explaining the 1.5 system in the Jazz.
The sad thing is Honda Australia isn't selling vehicles at all so there days are numbered
What a fantastic drivetrain, and quite a good car overall! Toyota could learn a thing or two by binning that crappy 1.8L Hybrid that they've grandfathered in the Australian market for some reason and making the 2L Hybrid option they use overseas a default.
Its Japanese built, so we get the Japanese powertrain which is the 1.8L, its more efficient than the 2.0L version.
@@jaredscott4829 Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic car but it is dangerously slow.
There is a notorious onramp near my house with traffic control lights. When I rented one to try (before I buy), I had to merge into traffic at 90kph because it couldn't reach 110. 13s 0-100 is scary.
It was actually the reason why I bought a Cerato GT instead of the Corolla, and the ZR Corolla Hybrid was cheaper at the time.
The Corolla Cross managed to get the 2L Hybrid drivetrain I wanted in the Corolla, and the economy figures would only be off by at most 0.5-1L/100.
@@joytech23 load of rubbish, if you can't merge with it, the drive is the problem.
1l/100km is enormous when you are talking about a vehicle that uses 5l...
@@jaredscott4829 You can't do much more except put your foot to the floor so it's definitely not driver issue. I had the car for two weeks lol I'm just explaining my experience. The ramp from light to merge is 180-220m. The car accelerates from 0-110 in a distance that exceeds that at wide open throttle.
I had another Corolla hybrid in the US a few weeks ago, the economy figures were almost identical to the rental I had here. About 0.1-0.4L/100 difference.
By the economy thing, I meant I would compromise economy for a more driveable car.
As for acceleration I've seen other cars like the Mitsubishi mirage also fail to merge at speed on some onramps and I think a Pajero or landcruiser? It's not just the Corolla Hybrid.
@@joytech23 That is false. You are talking about the old 1.8 hybrid.
No the economy is not the same or even close to identical. Your random anecdote doesn't trump actual scientific testing.
You should try the Camarro SS 10 speed and the ZL1 (2023’s). Greetings 🙏🏻❤️
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I will never understand why 0-100 is such a big thing. What is far more relevant are intermediate accelerations, like 30-50, or 70-100. Those kind of accelerations you do for merging etc.
traffic light pulls
Gives a good indication of the performance across a wide range of speed. In the real world, drivers care about 0-30 kmh, and maybe 60-100. Some cars will have a very fast launch but struggle at higher speeds, some launch slow but keep pulling. 0-100 can give a fair indication of both in a video like this where you can see the speedo move.
@@Hicham017 Traffic light pull all the way too 100? In cities?
@@michaelcampbell4990 I think intermediate acceleration figures are a far better indication for allround performance. For example, diesel engines never perform well 0-100 because that is not a diesel's strength. But in intermediate acceleration, turbo diesel engines shine. No need to downshift...you just floor the accelerator. I think the 0-100 performance figure is getting too much weight in the overall decision making. Just like the quarter mile, another useless figure unless you want to use your car for drag races
@@mathisnotforthefaintofheart idk about that, my previous car was a diesel and it had an excellent 0-100 time for it's power and weight. But the time itself isn't that useful, you need a video of it so you can see how the car really accelerates. I.e. EVs always get great 0-100 times because they launch so hard, but then the 80-120 kmh time is worse than comparable petrol cars.
The prius is faster how is that possible. Honda needs to up the game
Prius is not faster.
When is a Prius "faster" than this? Are you talking about the new gen?
Yes new generation prius. you guys have not seen it?
@@Brian-ny4pw No, it is not faster. In USA all the people do the 0-60mph test and sometimes with 1ft rollout, that's why you see there under 7 seconds times.
In reality though that new Prius has a real 0-100km/h time of about 7.5-7.7 seconds. Which is slower than this Civic.
The link i posted is from a Japanese source. And just because one manufacturer in US does a 1 foot roll out acceleration time doesn’t mean all manufacturers do it and independent reviewers do it.
It's nice and all but every new car seems like a bloody rip off.
Wheels are too small
55000 $ for Civic which isn't type R? hahaha Honda must be joking :D
@Mlaggione, for that price, I rather get 2 Kia K5 LS; one for the Mrs and myself.
@@moses7101 same here. and besides Kia K5 or Optima as its known elsewhere, is much better looking car both inside and outside than Civic, and not to mention bigger car with more features... Honda is just delusional ... :D
Boom. Bingo
Lmao, heavy price. I paid one year back 33k € with 5% price discount for the Sport variant. At that point, there where no similiar good car for that price. Just the Toyota Corolla, but for me the honda looks better overall and has better quality
Yuck cvt
not that CVT that you know
those tires are serious overkill for this car.
Good tyres can never be serious overkill...they can be the difference between living and dying 🤔
@@53glowe They’re high performance Michelin summer tires (at least I couldn’t see if these were A/S). That unnecessary on a car like this. I’m not saying go cheap. On an Si, fine but all this needs are some Continental touring all seasons
@@lttsr This is Australia mate...
@@lttsr why would you do such a mistake and have all-season tires that are not as good in the summer as a summer tire and not as good in the winter as a winter tire. All-season tires are mediocre tires. Also you probably are confusing Michelin Pilot Sport 4 with 4S. The Pilot Sport 4 is a good choice for this car because Civic has a very capable sporty chassis.
@@silimarina. All seasons are great if you get a good one. Costs less too to not have a dedicated set. Also, it’s a Hybrid Civic and not a Civic Si. It’s a waste of the tire’s capabilities.
If you want summer tires on a car like this, get the Primacy 4 or something