QUICK NOTE: We’re both actually majorly Team Justin on this! However, since most people have already heard the story, we wanted to instead report on what their respective fans are debating, and flipped a coin to pick a side to represent. But we totally hear you all! It’s infuriating!
Someone made a good point that Blake's promotional behaviour has Ryan Reynolds all over it. It's what he does for all his own projects and he likely pushed or at least advised her promotion of her side projects. He also has a booze brand. 🤷🏼♀️ But even if that's true, Blake went along with it and played "Mean Girl" by turning everyone against Justin.
@JaneyJJJ, Perhaps because he planned to make it less romantic? The single take home message from all of his promo interviews? "The main question shouldn't be why did she not leave but I want the men watching to think about why is he harming the woman he says he loves. I want the guys to take a step back, and if they recognize any of Ryles behaviors in themselves, to go and seek some help." Paraphrased ever so slightly.
Naming a cocktail is indefensible, though what we do know is that the release of her brands were long planned while IEWU was moved up to August so she was pretty much forced to promote all 3 things at the same time (which means Target had all these expectations of her simultaneously) - it's just unfortunate planning all around
Isn't it natural to defend yourself when the other party is constantly making you cornered and making some shady rumours, you have to defend yourself and we all know compared to Justin, Blake lively is powerful and influential
Yes .... and he knew they would try to make him the bad guy...Plus some people say hiring this PR team is a proof of guilt...because it's the one Johnny Depp hired...but JD was INNOCENT !!! By the way Amber Heard had VERY POWERFULL PR teams spreading lies for years with the help of the MSM... The guy was cancelled because of her powerfull friends...He had no choice but a public trial to get every one hear his side of the story and see his overwhelming evidences
@@bangtanstory34 Yes, exactly. He's up againts some very powerful people that have been in the game much longer than he has. So he needs to hire the best team aviavale to help him deal with this smear campaign that Blake and her team inititated, which now has backfired terribily on them.
Team Justin. The other actors are being bullied into supporting Blake. Justin doesn’t have nearly the same power as Blake (re:Ryan) so he doesn’t have a fighting chance.
"Stuff was blowing up about Lively BEFORE Baldoni hired the crisis PR team. He hired them because Lively started trying to accuse him of sexual harassment and body shaming, things that could have destroyed his career."
Yeah, she definitely tried didn't she? People who defend her saying she's just an actress and who cares forget that trying to ruin someone's reputation, career, essentially life-- given how public this is- is not just a small thing to ignore. Truly cruel
I just wanna say the real problem here is Coleen Hoover who’s Romanticizes violence and defending her son after catch Harasses 16 years old girl and after that makes a coloring book of book talk about dv
Yep. I was thinking the same thing. Her experience was different from others. Her and I see our experiences completely different. And her and her families outcome was different. Many have nothing when they get out. They don’t get to go and have a wonderful life and write books. They may leave physically but never mentally. She doesn’t speak for others and I hate that even this video kind of made her a spokesperson as a survivor.
Thank you for this thread!!! I have just written a lengthy post, pointing out where I feel Colleen should take some accountability. Whether it's the writing, or the movie process that Justin had the grace to allow her to have, pre, during or post production. I won't be watching the sequel anyway.
How is it possible for Justin to both reliquinsh most of the control of production to Blake and basically forced the role on her and was simultaneously a dictator who controlled everything on set? How can two completely opposite criticisms be levied at one person the opposing camp. This seems fishy on Blake’s part.
One, Blake isn't the one directly making these accusations, it's from other people on set or her supporters speculating. Maybe Justin attempted to have tight control over everything at first but wasn't doing a good job. Maybe Blake took it upon herself to take charge and the rest of the cast ended up following her direction. Then later during the press tour Justin frames it as an intentional choice of his to let women on set be in control, when really it was a power struggle the whole time.
@@JoyanneBecker one thing I haven't seen people say is that it's highly likely that his crisis PR team media-trained him on how to come across his best in promotions/interviews while the rest of the cast (who all unfollowed him) are left behaving awkwardly for not having any idea how to handle it
I find it so dense that people assume “getting a crisis firm” or “lawyering up” is equivalent to guilt. We live in an extremely litigious society and it’s wise to have protections against powerful people ESPECIALLY if you’re innocent.
I would never ever hire a crisis team. Especially when he was seen well by the public. No. Celebrities do not hire a crisis team unless they are expecting one. I mean that's common sense. This guy, rumors are he is abusive. But yall are easily manipulated. 🙄 Blake must be controlling all the people on set because she is Dr. EVIL None of the people in the movie or staff want anything to do with him
I find it so dense that you don't know the difference between pr and crisis management and are correcting people about it. No, nobody hires a crisis team unless expecting a crisis. I mean what???.
I want to first write, I love Blake Lively on Gossip Girl. I know some may disagree but I thought it was a good choice to cast her as Serena Van Der Woodson. With that being said, I’m leaning towards Justin. The reason is because of her past professionalism on set. When you have the whole cast of Gossip Girl unfollowed you, that’s a red flag. I will have to agree that working as a producer, director, and actor was too much for Justin. There will bound to be mistakes. His past professionalism on set gives him the edge over Blake. I don’t hate on Blake, but I get the feeling she was using her and hubby’s star power to turn people against Justin. I also find it uncomfortable how light she is about the DV survivors. As someone who witnessed DV in my childhood, it’s nothing light about it. That’s my humble opinion. I’m sure many of you may disagree, but please disagree respectfully.
One layer deeper..... the whole thing from colleen hoover is a marketing thing - ALL of her male leads are terrible and abusive, the book isnt an exploration of dv, it is just set dressing...... that why everyone has distanced themselves from the one guy who took the subject seriously... because hollywood doesnt take anything seriously. For them, the story was popular so it means money, thats why the florals, the nail polish, the colouring book, the marketing alcohol.... because it means nothing to them... we as normal humans go, "oh this is a serious subject" and pick sides.... the sides are the ones making money and the ones looking for meaning, its hollywood vs art, meaning and the audience not this actor or that one....
DP here. i had a similar situation happen with a short film going into production, and at the last minute, someone thought they outranked me and tried to steal the entire production out from underneath me, unless i gave them control which saying no risked derailing the project last minute. i still said no. but i could tell this was the same grimy shit blake was doing the moment i saw this dude doing everything alone
Totally Team Justin. The crew was manipulated into tricking the public into thinking this was a fun romance story with a ‘surprise twist’ …all the while, Justin stood up to them and said, absolutely NOT so they pushed him out.
exactly. This is Hollywood, Justin is not the most powerful one the set. Its Blake as she was a bigger star and married to Deadpool. The cast might not want to make enemies in the industry by deifying Blake/Ryan.
Ah, so a disagreement about how to market the film? That would make sense. It might be that Justin himself decided not to join the main marketing campaign appearances out of disagreement
How on earth is anyone still defending Blake Lively? 🤔 Her "defence" in this video was paper thin and considering that we all have eyes and ears, we've seen and heard enough about her narcism to know she's the problem.
The “closing argument” aka the article goes along with Blake forcing them to back her. Justin also has a history of helping people. During the holidays he and his wife personally run an event to feed and gift homeless/low income families in Los Angeles. Blake and Ryan are Hollywood hot shots. They do nothing for anyone. Blake has a history of bullying. I was born in LA and lived here my whole life. I have heard about many people as well as had my own experiences. Blake is just known as a B. It’s just an accepted fact. Also coming from a DV home both physically and emotionally I (and others have also said) It is always part of who you are. It effects you. Whether it makes you stronger and makes you go on to do great things or like me terrifies you and causes so many issues that effect every part of your life. It doesn’t just go away because you left. Blake’s comments make it seem that way.
Sorry you had to go through that. I agree. I didn't like this take especially since the movie is supposed to be about this subject. So, of course the character is deeply influenced by this. And I think the fact that the author is known for romanticizing DV in her books, shows that it stays with you one way or another… Sure, it isn't EVERYTHING about a person. But it shapes your identity. And especially while being in a relationship like that, it is a HUGE part of who you are and it takes a lot of time to find yourself after finding the strength to leave.
True! Haha 🤣 She’s definitely far from those actresses. I think a lot of her peers are much better actresses, like America Ferrera (who's won a Golden Globe, Emmy, and Screen Actors Guild Award), Alexis Bledel (Emmy winner), and Anna Kendrick (who's been nominated for an Emmy, Oscar, and Tony).
I don’t know why, I understand we don’t know everything, but I just have the feeling that Justin is in the right here. I am probably biased, because I don’t care for Blake. She just rubs me the wrong way.
Me too. My feelings tell me blake is and was the problem and that the cast (not the crew) have picked her side in fear of getting blacklisted. Which might bite them in the ass because her behavior in interviews can turn the audience against her. But this video ain't really interesting for me since I don't really care about all the movie surrounding issues or not. That isn't really what's going on now. Blake is getting criticism for her own behavior and interviews. Most videos I've seen doesn't really talk about the movie itself or what happened on set. But it also rubs me the wrong way in the interview where blake basically says she doesn't get paid for supporting the movie only to play in it but then doesn't see the wrong in using the free publicity for the movie and all the interviews that comes with promoting the movie for her own gain and promoting her own brands. If you don't want to promote the movie then don't, but don't use the publicity d For your own gain either
Watched the entire thing. So.... Yes. It would appear that Lively improved the movie and its box office result. So of course the industry would praise her and stating that they want to make 12 more movies with her. That's the only thing they care about. MUNNY! And it's also no surprise that the vast majority of the cast sided with Lively. She's a star, she has ties to people like Wolverine and Taylor Swift (yes, Wolverine is an actual person), and she's riding a wave of success. Justin on the other hand has an impeccable record previous to this movie. My theory: he spent a lot of his lifetime standing up for women suffering from DV. He embarks onna movie that is just about that topic. But now he has to deal with Lively, a know hot blasé girl who LOVES to bully others. I think she just got the better of him with her unbearable behavior. During parts of the shooting that is. And how messed up must one be to get married at a known former slave plant? I'll never look at Reynolds the same way again. That's just disgusting behavor, and it SO explains why he would be married to this obnoxious lady. #teamjustin
I think Blake is in the wrong just from the facts alone. Justin bought the rights for the movie and she totally steamrolled over him. I also have a theory that all of this drama was a marketing tactic because he’s the “villain” in the movie so that how everyone is treating him. Fans are only seeing everyone separating themselves from Justin and wondering why and seeing Blake act like everything is all hunky dory. Kind of like how things go after a DV relationship. The ex always seems like the good guy to people who don’t know the deeper issues. Idk if any of that theory makes sense but I’ve thought about it a lot and can’t help to see the parallels.
yes, and the argument about Jenny and Blake becoming friends while Jenny and Justin did not a good argument. Even if you know its acting, and the person you are acting with is not a violent person, it can still be hard to get past that and see the actor even after the camera cuts. I've heard interviews like the actor who played Spike on Buffy who said he needed therapy after just 1 episode where his character sexually assaulted Buffy. It can be hard being the actor who has to act violent toward you and being the person you have to react against the violence. Especially when you are a good actor, as both parties have to make it be believable.
Anything against Justin has just been Blake's claims. Of course everyone else will be afraid to back him given Ryan can ruin their career with one sentence. At the start I really thought Justin must've done something and didn't read about it at all, but so much has come out showing Blake's true colors. So glad Justin's career hasn't been ruined- he's the only one who cares about the DV victims.. when asked why he thinks some women don't leave the situation, he responded saying we shouldn't even be asking that question- real question is why they were put in that situation to begin with. My friend who went through DV told me how understood she felt- leaving is so DANGEROUS, and oftentimes the victims get stalked, or face terrifying consequences if they are found in public by their abuser
32:15 I see what you are saying but this is a woman who has been acting her entire life. Her whole family does press tours. A more appropriate response would be “I would much prefer they go through professional channels for DV advice but understand that I do sympathize with what you are experiencing however I am not in anyway trained in this area if expertise. I do however love and appreciate all of you and I’m honored you’d trust in sharing your experiences with me.” She wasn’t caught off guard. She knew this question was coming she just wanted to be sarcastic and snarky like her husband.
And it does come down to people wanting to either further their careers or to ruin them. Blake could’ve easily ruined the interviewers career. The interviewer who talked about Blake’s bump was congratulating her because news just became public and was all over the news that Blake was already 8mo pregnant. She was slouched like she always is in the interviews and her belly looked smaller. It wasn’t a dig. The interviewer is from Norway and English is not her first language. It wasn’t harmful to say that and nobody cared. Blake is just a mean girl. Btw the interviewer is infertile aka she can’t have babies so it was even harder for her. She meant well. It resurfaced and she reposted it to clear the air once and for all because she never felt safe to speak out against how she felt with Blake.
It’s not a coincidence that she marketed her hair care line during the movie. She had creative control since she worked on it for seven years. Just like it’s tone deaf to promote alcohol along with a movie on DV it’s also bloody tone dead to promote hair care products. Cancel her.
yes. She could have a delayed the launch if she really cared about the movie's theme. They have plenty of money that she wouldn't have been hurting financially to just delay it a month, or to not try to tie everything together
Blake's version is a typical Hollywood fun movie that glosses over the real issues, that actual dv survivors have problems with, brings money to sony and all those executives. Justin's version apparently flowed well with these same people, probably won't be as profitable because you know what? Viewers will also choose a fun movie over a serious movie that actually talks about serious stuff. Probably that's why execs would do 12 more movies with lively, not with justin. Who knows CoHo is from a dv home yet other people from dv homes and dv survivors don't see eye to eye with her in most if not all of her works? And she doesn't like the focus being on dv surviving which she based her book upon but rather wants florals, really? It ends with us × It ends with money ✓
FYI - Sony Pictures holds the rights to 900 Marvel characters, including X-Men! It's in their benefit to say they want Blake Lively in 12 of their movies, when her husband is currently EXPLODING at the box office with Deadpool & Wolverine. She's a mean girl who 100% gives me Amber Heard vibes. She doesn't even look convincing in the snippets I've seen.
♥️ Really like the way you presented the information in this video. The interviews with Blake and the cast look like they are bored, embarrassed and under duress.
Clearly no one hear reads celebrity blinds. Blake has always had a bad reputation for how she treats people. Sorry scandy, can’t agree with your team choice this time but love ya anyway
This is the best video on this drama I have seen so far (and I have watched way too many videos about this 😄) Good job. I really liked the idea of portraying both sides like this. And you have brought up some things I haven't thought about or seen yet.
Love the new duo! It’s great to hear both perspectives, and the dynamic between you two makes it even more engaging. It would be cool to see more vids in this format!
I think that Justin was a bit weak in his approach and allowed and even relied on Blake and other people to do things that he should have taken responsibility over. He seems like a laissez-faire kind of guy and I think you need to be a precise and adamant about things as a director for a movie like this. Just imagine how annoying it would be on a movie set where the person who is supposed to be reliably directing the whole process is kind of lost in the sauce or going back and forth with ideas or moving a scene or the script because he heard a good suggestion from someone else last minute. It’s not good for the project and people are going to get frustrated and animosity is going to build. A director is there to set the tone, clarify the underlying themes and dictate an actors emotional response to the scene or dialogue as he guides his actors through his visualization of the script. A director should be a leader with precise goals that he can communicate clearly. I haven’t read the book, but for me, the movie wasted potential and didn’t lay out enough background on the characters or build an emotional connection between the audience and the characters. It seemed to me the two main characters had a nice sexual attraction, but that’s about it, which makes me think this whole intimacy thing really was a problem. There was a number of unnecessary sex scenes that I feel could have been omitted in order to show the characters actually falling in love with each other. Then the abuse would have been SO much more impactful and jarring. The push and pull of “should I forgive and stay or leave” would have been much more of a dilemma, not only for the character, but for the audience too. It was a 2 hour movie (I think) and at the end of it, it’s moral (in my opinion) is don’t let a sexual relationship keep you in an abusive relationship… which I think misses the point of the book. Blake Lively’s press for this movie has come across as very strange, self centered and obnoxious, but the movie really wasn’t ground breaking enough to take it seriously, so I can kind of see her considering it a loss (again, the script and movie could have really been something special). If you’re really passionate about something and it turns to absolute shit, people cope with that failure in ways that may seem bizarre. She’s also trying to make the most out of the press as she has other ventures she’s trying to launch right now. I think she made a decision to focus on her brand (hair care, fashion, whatever else she has going) for her survival because this movie was probably extremely stressful to film (she had to do things she shouldn’t have had to do) and the end result was maybe even potentially devastating to her and she wants to forget she even signed onto the project.
These types of 1 vs 1 are good when the ratio is a bit fair (or 50/50ish). But in this case... and after seeing that "bump" interview... I am not sure what the lady on the left is doing here. This is not like when you're on trial... I am not so sure Justin "FAILED" in anything. My intuition tells that he was pressured into doing some stuff he felt uncomfortable doing; thus his (IMO shady) comment about "Lively is prepared to be a director" when talking about a sequel. He clearly doesn't want anything to do with her, with Hoover or with anyone like them, anymore. And no, the the lady on the left saying "Blake was right saying a DV victim is more than that." in the context of "A DV victim is more than that; it can be a DV victim with a nice hair or with a booze line.", thus promoting her business, or her stupid husband's new film, in a film about DV, is not ok. Also, rewriting a scene without telling the female who was in charge of that, was rude and unfair. I am not so sure why anyone would support Blake Lively either in that stupid interview situation or in this one. I am for Justin in this particular situation.
1000000% agree. I love when people debate points with what facts are available and with some opinions thrown in, without any apparent bias. Like, literally just presenting both sides so the viewer can conclude their own opinion.
Even if Justin is in the wrong. Blake still gave all these horrible interviews, made a reporter want to quit her job, crossed the picked line... Best case she is the worst. Worst case they both are. But she is the worst independently from what he is accused of
Love how you guys took different sides what a creative take on this I e seen so much coverage on this yet enjoyed watching you two duke it out! Great content!
Its understandable justin hired pr agency. Whole cast, even the writer of the book unfollowed him. I can only imagine what blake said or did that could make that happen. Its like johny depp, the world believed in amber before the televised trial. Blake is an amber.
IMHO, which may be wildly unpopular, and may contain my own errors, so please correct me on those, but with a little politeness please. I do think other than Ryan, there's someone who I feel should take some responsibility for the way this has become a mess, and that is the author herself. Once the rights to a book, has been sold, technically the author does not have much say (or sway as to how the story transfers onto screen), which is a completely different medium, and a lot of moving parts. But Justin in his kindness, involved her to see the process...hence she was supposed to be the female gaze. Nobody is actually holding her accountable, in that... 1. She was biased with the casting of Lily, as she is a huge Blake fangurl. 2. During most of the tone deaf interviews, with "grab your girls, wear your florals", she's right there. Is it fair to only point the finger at Blake? 3. The whole reason of all the offers she had received, (info from interviews I have seen of either just her or her and Blake), she claimed was that Justin understood the main message and importance of the dark dv theme. Which he has said constantly and consistently in his interviews. 4. She also mentioned her father was an alcoholic who would then committed the dv. So it's not only Blake, who despite some of her beverage brand, was a little "tasteless", (to continue the theme), and if it was the non alcoholic versions, it may still APPEAR, to the public, (obviously it did leave a bad taste in the mouths of the audience), who were the ones calling Blake out as she should have known about the correlation between alcohol and dv. 5. They had to increase the ages of Lily, (supposed to be 23, and fresh out of college), because she didn't even check or research, (even for the book, which was extremely odd to me), how long it takes to become a neurosurgeon. 6. The focus groups preferring Justin's version, but including the Ryan rewrite on that scene, which you mentioned that it looked very male gaze...was the one by Ryan and Blake. Again, different from what she previously wanted Justin to do. 7.Funnily and finally it's "interesting", that when doing interviews now, the reason she sold the rights to Justin mentioned above, has now changed. When asked about the take home message, she almost parroted the Blake answer, "Hope. I mean when I saw what Blake had done with Lily...er...yes, I think it's hope." And, @50.23, you have said that the author has sold the rights to the sequel to Blake is incorrect. Wayfair, Justin's production company, bought the rights to both novels.
Not a Blake fan but Justin really should have stepped back from being the director. I agree it would have been better to have a female experienced director for a "female gaze" and remain an EP. If his previous film on social issues received flak, he could perhaps learn or observe how others handle such theme. Blake has too much marketing/producing prowess. She is bound to have that seamlessly, especially with her personality and connections. It's too bad there wasn't a firm head at the helm who can navigate the dynamics in the crew and cast.
I think it's likely Blake tried to take control where it's not her job to do so, causing contention. We know she already has an interest in directing. Sometimes when someone has such a huge ego they can give an aura of confidence that people naturally think you know what you are talking about or doing. I think Justin's humbleness and professionalism is actually making Blake look like a hero.
C' mon now, we've always known she's not the brightest crayon in the box but she thinks she is. Funny how that can bsckfire on you in a big way. But when you play big games, you best be willing to take the hit ! Apparently she never saw it coming. Narcissists are very stupid sometimes ! Boo Hoo Blake !💧 💧
Fifth grade recess energy with all these people, especially Hoover and Blake🙄… let’s normalize not idolizing anyone… I DID enjoy both the book and movie, though ☺️
It's funny you describe Blake Lively as "bigger name talent" when other than this, she hasn't had much buzz for an acting role in years because she barely works. At least until her husband hit that big billion dollar mark, now she has 4 in pre-production. 🥴
You know what I think? Blake and Justin actually had a love affair on set that they do not want to talk about. I think Justin ended it and Blake couldn't handle it and set up the whole cast against him and they went for it because Blake is the woman in this situation. The rest is just smoke and mirrors. It seems plausable because many unproblematic celebs have said that Blake is a 'steal your guy' kinda girl.
Yeah, what I'm learning more and more is that you shouldn't trust the actors' personas in social media or in interviews. They're actors. They know how to act. They know how to lie. It's literally their job. Honestly, with all this in mind, I'm team no one on this. Though, I have to admit that I may like Blake Lively less now than I did before I watched this-she seems like a worse version of her husband, Ryan Reynolds. She's the Ryan Reynolds we have at home. LOL.
Yeah, I don't hate anyone but it does seem that, as of rn, I am team J. B seems to have a lot of prior & current issues. Also, a note about CH's ridiculous stance that telling people a book has DV is "spoilers" or that no one would read it if she told them. That stance, imho, is terribly short-sided. I grew up with an abusive parent and have experienced ipv. I avoid most books centered on those types of violence. I do read the occasional book that includes those topics but none that are "centered" on it. And I guarantee you that if I get surprised by such from an author that I WILL DNF the book, leave it a 1 star review, and NEVER, purchase a thing from them again. If I am particularly salty about it I will tell everyone I know that reads, about my experience & thoughts. I have done it & would do it again. So really, all the drama wound up being very helpful to me in confirming that my decision not to read any further CH books and not to see the movie was a good one. And I think CH's view, that B also espoused, that a woman is more than DV is a kind of toxic positivity. The truth is it is just way more complicated than that. And hearing B say that was offensive to me (so I may be biased).
#teamjustin , I saw all those clips, read about it… Blake probably will direct sequel, so it makes sense that the cast would side with her - if they had to chose. There’s just something about Blake that I never really liked …
Though I am not in the slightest interested in this topic, I still enjoyed this video so much and I liked the way it was made. Also, I am so glad I got to be one of the first followers of this channel because I believe that it is one of the best channels that deal with these kind of topics on RUclips
Anyone defending Blake(with all her behavior around this movie, & the interview with her congratulating the interview lady on her “bump”, when that interviewer had infertility issues!) is grasping at straws! She is not a good person, it shows. She is just another out of touch with reality elitist celebrity. Also, people are easily swayed with $ & wanting to stay on the good side of their evil overlords in pe-do-wood(Hollywood), Blake is a powerhouse with her husband Ryan, so of course most of the cast & crew are going to side with Blake. They want to keep working & rub elbows with big names. It’s all a popularity contest. 🙄😒
45:53 see I was concerned that playing an abusive asshole would affect his ability to direct/produce professionally. It’s hard for not only the person doing the acting and directing, but also the people around them to just snap back to reality after every cut. Someone having just screamed at you or pretended to abuse you then telling you what to do calmly can still be very off putting and stressful. I feel like maybe a lot of the drama could have been avoided had they hired an intimacy coordinator, hired a director, and hired a producer. He and Blake could have co-directed/co-produced but I do not think he should have played the abusive character while being like the head boss on set.
@@abbied that might be his greatest revenge and accomplishment. After all, Blake wants to win the Oscar so badly, and him winning it would hurt her and Ryan emotionally.
Guess we'll find out more when a Simple Favour Part Two comes out. They wrapped up filming and it's due out soon on Prime. See what happens with the Anna Kendrick and Blake drama. Only time will tell.
I think what people forget is this is Colleen hoovers book at the end of the day. People were so mad that it didn't haven a powerful ending where he goes to jail.... but this is real life she was writing about because she lived it. Her dad never went away for abusing her mom. He got to live a happy life and that makes sense why she ended the book how she did or even talks about it like a silly girl would a romance book. Its not a romance book but it looks like one, abusers are often happy family men who no one expects would be abusive. Blake supported the writer and, personally, I think did an amazing job.
This was the humorous take on attempting to "both sides" the minor n typical artistic dispute in Hollywood. Personally, it angers me when ppl actually try to attribute nefarious actions/behaviors to Justin. The PR team doesn't honestly have to do anything to paint Blake as a villain -- or Justin as a saint. There are 100s of commentary videos daily doing that job quite well, including this one. These videos tell them directly n in real time how the public n press views their client. I find it telling nothing other than postulation (n the sketchy accusations of Blake early on) has come out about Justin, but there's tons of self inflicted character assassination video evidence, recorded n archived, on Blake. Justin is responsible for this movie even seeing the light of day--the rights were sold to him. He's the only documented one actually fulfilling his mission for the story, rather than promoting himself, as Blake's done. The prolonged silence between the initial story broke n why there's been no more statements by either team is obvious--the PR firms n lawyers are meeting n hammering out the financial n public damage control goals for both stars. I postulate this future: Blake n Justin will amicably settle this outside the public inquiry, cuz honestly it's a typical dispute with an actress who simply starred in the movie n put up some capital to get it made but suddenly took over the project's direction/marketing, even having her husband NOT CONTRACTED by the production write dialogue outside the production's knowledge. Blake "broke" contract perimeters, n some malicious motive can be proven. Justin stands to get a lot of money if he chooses to sell the rights to the released movie n the second book (sequel), which he may do cuz now that Blake has sullied the project. He had actual control of the project n production as him owning the rights entities him to the direction of its marketing, public messaging. As an actress n an investor, Blake's only job was to act the eff out of the lead role n profit at the box office. Period. Blake's sneaky, bullying, controlling, undermining, insensitive behavior made this movie rollout a disaster. I predict he'll keep the rights, but will allow the sequel to be made, he won't have any involvement other than his production company gets to produce n distribute it. He'll have complete background control. Blake stands to lose cuz she truly has no leverage. Despite her being close friends with Colleen, her reputation, past n present, is damaging her brand n celebrity cuz she's chosen to not address the trending negative public n press opinions. The silence reflects both teams are currently negotiating. The "drama" will blow over when they make an announcement on the agreement they reach. Imo Justin stands to gain immensely cuz Blake WANTS this franchise--it's the first thing she's done that a larger audience cares about. Good for Justin. When there IS public inquiry, cuz there definitely will be, Blake will be more business-like, succinct n might possibly include some neutral-to-positive compliment toward Justin to keep the drama from coming back. Her words n future appearances will be much more grounded, reflective n importantly NEUTRAL---a vast juxtaposition to her previous press. She might even include a very low-incendiary commentary/apology for her marketing choices of the movie. JUSTIN: keep the rights to both movies, make the sequel urself, starring the internet's dream cast to revive the project n give it another chance = 🤑🤑🤑,🤑🤑,🤑🤑🤑 ( that's for free, u're welcome. )
You shouldn’t have to try and find holes in Blake’s bad decisions and choices that she constantly chooses to make. She’s been like this for decades. Doesn’t take much digging. She is a rich actor who plays the same type of dry character in everything she’s in. Just like Ryan, she doesn’t really have to act. She’s so far removed from the real world.
Hot take - what if they’re all bad and just competing to make each other look bad. Eventually someone will come out looking worse and that’s potentially Blake because of past discretions.
As a woman in film and photography, I don’t care. Males are much more common in the field. Speaking from experience in all my work and education, men dominate the field just because there’s more men.
There is a systemic issue of women not getting enough positions in the system for them to play a bigger role in production. It’s not only Justin’s decision on who works In production
I think it’s pretty sus that right when the new Deadpool comes out, full of Ryan Reynolds making “fk Disney” jokes, they crash and burn failed to make their woke agenda work with audiences in their other projects and had to fire a bunch of people in Marvel, that now media is turning against and targeting his wife. Hmmmmmm.
She hijacked his film. Not professional. I'm worried about Baldoni, because her family and her husband have a lot of power in Hollywood. In videos in youtube, it is declared Sony and Netflix stand for her.
I struggle to believe that Blake is as Machiavellian as people are making her out to be. Don't get me wrong, she seems incredibly shallow, but it speaks volumes that the people who actually saw what happened are on her side. I really think Justin must be glossing over how badly things went on set; It seems like production was a very messy power struggle and he was the loser, possibly due to incompetence. Whatever happened, I think he genuinely lost the respect of most of the cast and crew, not that they were bullied into submission by Blake.
I heard people weren’t happy about Ryan rewriting lines because they thought it was disrespectful to the script writer and that he was butting in when not needed But I hadn’t heard scab rumors. I’m pretty sure at this point he is considered a screenwriter so he wouldn’t of been able to write during that time either
QUICK NOTE: We’re both actually majorly Team Justin on this!
However, since most people have already heard the story, we wanted to instead report on what their respective fans are debating, and flipped a coin to pick a side to represent. But we totally hear you all! It’s infuriating!
Someone made a good point that Blake's promotional behaviour has Ryan Reynolds all over it. It's what he does for all his own projects and he likely pushed or at least advised her promotion of her side projects. He also has a booze brand. 🤷🏼♀️ But even if that's true, Blake went along with it and played "Mean Girl" by turning everyone against Justin.
Blake's behaviour has been sus since the beginning of the promo tour. Her past videos are also not helping. Its giving entitled nepo baby
But... Why would JB be so attracted to a story where the male abuser is so romanticised and consequentless 😮
@JaneyJJJ,
Perhaps because he planned to make it less romantic? The single take home message from all of his promo interviews?
"The main question shouldn't be why did she not leave but I want the men watching to think about why is he harming the woman he says he loves.
I want the guys to take a step back, and if they recognize any of Ryles behaviors in themselves, to go and seek some help." Paraphrased ever so slightly.
It seems as if you‘re bith basically only arguing for Blake though and making excuses for her fucked up behaviour.
I may have missed it but the fact she promoted alcohol brand and named a cocktail after the abuser. Extremely tone deaf!
yes THIS! haha i don't think Scandy can justify this Blake decision lol
Naming a cocktail is indefensible, though what we do know is that the release of her brands were long planned while IEWU was moved up to August so she was pretty much forced to promote all 3 things at the same time (which means Target had all these expectations of her simultaneously) - it's just unfortunate planning all around
Why? Why? This abuser is not a real person. You do know that, right? He's not real living person?
The argument "why get a PR team if you're not guilty" is so stupid. It's like saying why get a lawyer if you are innocent.
Isn't it natural to defend yourself when the other party is constantly making you cornered and making some shady rumours, you have to defend yourself and we all know compared to Justin, Blake lively is powerful and influential
He understood the severity of the topics at hand. He’s a true king ❤❤
And this is not his first rodeo!
Yes .... and he knew they would try to make him the bad guy...Plus some people say hiring this PR team is a proof of guilt...because it's the one Johnny Depp hired...but JD was INNOCENT !!! By the way Amber Heard had VERY POWERFULL PR teams spreading lies for years with the help of the MSM... The guy was cancelled because of her powerfull friends...He had no choice but a public trial to get every one hear his side of the story and see his overwhelming evidences
@@bangtanstory34 Yes, exactly. He's up againts some very powerful people that have been in the game much longer than he has. So he needs to hire the best team aviavale to help him deal with this smear campaign that Blake and her team inititated, which now has backfired terribily on them.
Team Justin. The other actors are being bullied into supporting Blake. Justin doesn’t have nearly the same power as Blake (re:Ryan) so he doesn’t have a fighting chance.
He does have a chance though bc the public can see what’s real and honest. Justin has a squeak clean track record. He’s a genuinely great human.
Team Justin 👑
"Stuff was blowing up about Lively BEFORE Baldoni hired the crisis PR team. He hired them because Lively started trying to accuse him of sexual harassment and body shaming, things that could have destroyed his career."
Exactly, just the fact that she tried to immediately divert negative attention his way is telling!
Agree. Justin needs to do that. The whole cast unfollowed him, thats how powerfull blake (and ryan) was
This!
Yeah, she definitely tried didn't she? People who defend her saying she's just an actress and who cares forget that trying to ruin someone's reputation, career, essentially life-- given how public this is- is not just a small thing to ignore. Truly cruel
100 percent agree.
I just wanna say the real problem here is Coleen Hoover who’s Romanticizes violence and defending her son after catch Harasses 16 years old girl and after that makes a coloring book of book talk about dv
Yep. I was thinking the same thing. Her experience was different from others. Her and I see our experiences completely different. And her and her families outcome was different. Many have nothing when they get out. They don’t get to go and have a wonderful life and write books. They may leave physically but never mentally. She doesn’t speak for others and I hate that even this video kind of made her a spokesperson as a survivor.
Colleen has the right to tell her own story.@@ilovela0068
No this is so real like Colleen is the real problem here. the book should never have existed.
Yes agreed CH writes trauma and not romance imo. She wanted Blake bc she was a fan girl lmao. It’s embarrassing
Thank you for this thread!!! I have just written a lengthy post, pointing out where I feel Colleen should take some accountability. Whether it's the writing, or the movie process that Justin had the grace to allow her to have, pre, during or post production. I won't be watching the sequel anyway.
How is it possible for Justin to both reliquinsh most of the control of production to Blake and basically forced the role on her and was simultaneously a dictator who controlled everything on set? How can two completely opposite criticisms be levied at one person the opposing camp. This seems fishy on Blake’s part.
One, Blake isn't the one directly making these accusations, it's from other people on set or her supporters speculating. Maybe Justin attempted to have tight control over everything at first but wasn't doing a good job. Maybe Blake took it upon herself to take charge and the rest of the cast ended up following her direction. Then later during the press tour Justin frames it as an intentional choice of his to let women on set be in control, when really it was a power struggle the whole time.
@@JoyanneBecker one thing I haven't seen people say is that it's highly likely that his crisis PR team media-trained him on how to come across his best in promotions/interviews while the rest of the cast (who all unfollowed him) are left behaving awkwardly for not having any idea how to handle it
Easily team Justin. I didn't know much about either of them before this scandal, but his side is much more believable and compelling.
I find it so dense that people assume “getting a crisis firm” or “lawyering up” is equivalent to guilt. We live in an extremely litigious society and it’s wise to have protections against powerful people ESPECIALLY if you’re innocent.
I would never ever hire a crisis team. Especially when he was seen well by the public. No. Celebrities do not hire a crisis team unless they are expecting one.
I mean that's common sense.
This guy, rumors are he is abusive. But yall are easily manipulated. 🙄 Blake must be controlling all the people on set because she is Dr. EVIL
None of the people in the movie or staff want anything to do with him
I find it so dense that you don't know the difference between pr and crisis management and are correcting people about it. No, nobody hires a crisis team unless expecting a crisis. I mean what???.
I want to first write, I love Blake Lively on Gossip Girl. I know some may disagree but I thought it was a good choice to cast her as Serena Van Der Woodson. With that being said, I’m leaning towards Justin. The reason is because of her past professionalism on set. When you have the whole cast of Gossip Girl unfollowed you, that’s a red flag. I will have to agree that working as a producer, director, and actor was too much for Justin. There will bound to be mistakes. His past professionalism on set gives him the edge over Blake. I don’t hate on Blake, but I get the feeling she was using her and hubby’s star power to turn people against Justin. I also find it uncomfortable how light she is about the DV survivors. As someone who witnessed DV in my childhood, it’s nothing light about it. That’s my humble opinion. I’m sure many of you may disagree, but please disagree respectfully.
It's not just the GG cast not following her. Many of the cast still keep in touch and have moved on to bigger projects.
@@wilfreddale764 You mean the cast of GG though (right?)
One layer deeper..... the whole thing from colleen hoover is a marketing thing - ALL of her male leads are terrible and abusive, the book isnt an exploration of dv, it is just set dressing...... that why everyone has distanced themselves from the one guy who took the subject seriously... because hollywood doesnt take anything seriously. For them, the story was popular so it means money, thats why the florals, the nail polish, the colouring book, the marketing alcohol.... because it means nothing to them... we as normal humans go, "oh this is a serious subject" and pick sides.... the sides are the ones making money and the ones looking for meaning, its hollywood vs art, meaning and the audience not this actor or that one....
This is a really smart and interesting view. I totally agree!
I really like this take on the situation.
I felt the same about this whole thing. You worded it beautifully.
DP here. i had a similar situation happen with a short film going into production, and at the last minute, someone thought they outranked me and tried to steal the entire production out from underneath me, unless i gave them control which saying no risked derailing the project last minute. i still said no. but i could tell this was the same grimy shit blake was doing the moment i saw this dude doing everything alone
What does “DP” stand for though? (Just asking) thank you
@@abbieddirector de fotografia
@@brutadosqueixos Gracias 👍🏻😌
it screams mean girl with a target
EXACTLY this. That's my hunch too. Blake having an ego and interest in directing overstepping her role.
Totally Team Justin. The crew was manipulated into tricking the public into thinking this was a fun romance story with a ‘surprise twist’ …all the while, Justin stood up to them and said, absolutely NOT so they pushed him out.
exactly. This is Hollywood, Justin is not the most powerful one the set. Its Blake as she was a bigger star and married to Deadpool. The cast might not want to make enemies in the industry by deifying Blake/Ryan.
Ah, so a disagreement about how to market the film? That would make sense. It might be that Justin himself decided not to join the main marketing campaign appearances out of disagreement
How on earth is anyone still defending Blake Lively? 🤔 Her "defence" in this video was paper thin and considering that we all have eyes and ears, we've seen and heard enough about her narcism to know she's the problem.
Some people have a very hard time admitting they have been duped, unfortunately.
BRAVO 👏👏👏
Totally agree with your comments!!@
YYou do know this video is svripted right? They are telling both sides of the story.
The “closing argument” aka the article goes along with Blake forcing them to back her. Justin also has a history of helping people. During the holidays he and his wife personally run an event to feed and gift homeless/low income families in Los Angeles. Blake and Ryan are Hollywood hot shots. They do nothing for anyone. Blake has a history of bullying. I was born in LA and lived here my whole life. I have heard about many people as well as had my own experiences. Blake is just known as a B. It’s just an accepted fact. Also coming from a DV home both physically and emotionally I (and others have also said) It is always part of who you are. It effects you. Whether it makes you stronger and makes you go on to do great things or like me terrifies you and causes so many issues that effect every part of your life. It doesn’t just go away because you left. Blake’s comments make it seem that way.
Sorry you had to go through that.
I agree. I didn't like this take especially since the movie is supposed to be about this subject.
So, of course the character is deeply influenced by this.
And I think the fact that the author is known for romanticizing DV in her books, shows that it stays with you one way or another…
Sure, it isn't EVERYTHING about a person. But it shapes your identity. And especially while being in a relationship like that, it is a HUGE part of who you are and it takes a lot of time to find yourself after finding the strength to leave.
The haircare line and booze business during the promotion look pretty tacky... to say the least
So did the attempts to be a Barbieheimer with all her call ours to Ryan on the red carpets
This would’ve been so much better as an indie film by Justin and his team. Blake and Sony really Hallmarked the heck out of it… 😢
You and your friend actually complement eachothers well and her commentary matches yours pretty good. She’s a good vibe.
Just let me hate Blake Lively in peace already! lol
Justin all the way
A lot of info has come out to show that Blake is a mean girl.. 🤷🏻♀️
I don't think anyone would be surprised by that tbh.
Who wouldn’t side with Sony, wife of Ryan Reynolds and bestie of Taylor Swift? like I would had done the same.
SHE'S NOT THAT GOOD OF AN ACTRESS, SHE'S NO ANGELINA JOLIE OR MARGOT ROBBIE
True! Haha 🤣 She’s definitely far from those actresses. I think a lot of her peers are much better actresses, like America Ferrera (who's won a Golden Globe, Emmy, and Screen Actors Guild Award), Alexis Bledel (Emmy winner), and Anna Kendrick (who's been nominated for an Emmy, Oscar, and Tony).
I don’t know why, I understand we don’t know everything, but I just have the feeling that Justin is in the right here. I am probably biased, because I don’t care for Blake. She just rubs me the wrong way.
Me too. My feelings tell me blake is and was the problem and that the cast (not the crew) have picked her side in fear of getting blacklisted. Which might bite them in the ass because her behavior in interviews can turn the audience against her. But this video ain't really interesting for me since I don't really care about all the movie surrounding issues or not. That isn't really what's going on now. Blake is getting criticism for her own behavior and interviews. Most videos I've seen doesn't really talk about the movie itself or what happened on set. But it also rubs me the wrong way in the interview where blake basically says she doesn't get paid for supporting the movie only to play in it but then doesn't see the wrong in using the free publicity for the movie and all the interviews that comes with promoting the movie for her own gain and promoting her own brands. If you don't want to promote the movie then don't, but don't use the publicity d
For your own gain either
@LotusBloom0309
i am right there with you. she seems shady to me.
There is a parallel world where Trisha Paytas got the role
Is that for real? She was considered for that?
@@sr28774 Apparently so 😂
@@abbied wow 😮
@@sr28774 Lol, yup
Watched the entire thing. So.... Yes. It would appear that Lively improved the movie and its box office result. So of course the industry would praise her and stating that they want to make 12 more movies with her. That's the only thing they care about. MUNNY! And it's also no surprise that the vast majority of the cast sided with Lively. She's a star, she has ties to people like Wolverine and Taylor Swift (yes, Wolverine is an actual person), and she's riding a wave of success. Justin on the other hand has an impeccable record previous to this movie. My theory: he spent a lot of his lifetime standing up for women suffering from DV. He embarks onna movie that is just about that topic. But now he has to deal with Lively, a know hot blasé girl who LOVES to bully others. I think she just got the better of him with her unbearable behavior. During parts of the shooting that is. And how messed up must one be to get married at a known former slave plant? I'll never look at Reynolds the same way again. That's just disgusting behavor, and it SO explains why he would be married to this obnoxious lady. #teamjustin
34:50…the flowers on the cover are shattered…personally they look more like orchids, but when I look it up it says they’re *shattered lilies* …
Your are right!!!! He did fail but not for the reasons you stating on this video. HE FAILED BECAUSE HE HIRED Blake!!!!!!!!
Team Justin. Coleen has come out with colouring books about DV, make up etc. Blake and Coleen deserve each other.
I think Blake is in the wrong just from the facts alone. Justin bought the rights for the movie and she totally steamrolled over him. I also have a theory that all of this drama was a marketing tactic because he’s the “villain” in the movie so that how everyone is treating him. Fans are only seeing everyone separating themselves from Justin and wondering why and seeing Blake act like everything is all hunky dory. Kind of like how things go after a DV relationship. The ex always seems like the good guy to people who don’t know the deeper issues. Idk if any of that theory makes sense but I’ve thought about it a lot and can’t help to see the parallels.
yes, and the argument about Jenny and Blake becoming friends while Jenny and Justin did not a good argument. Even if you know its acting, and the person you are acting with is not a violent person, it can still be hard to get past that and see the actor even after the camera cuts. I've heard interviews like the actor who played Spike on Buffy who said he needed therapy after just 1 episode where his character sexually assaulted Buffy. It can be hard being the actor who has to act violent toward you and being the person you have to react against the violence. Especially when you are a good actor, as both parties have to make it be believable.
Anything against Justin has just been Blake's claims. Of course everyone else will be afraid to back him given Ryan can ruin their career with one sentence. At the start I really thought Justin must've done something and didn't read about it at all, but so much has come out showing Blake's true colors. So glad Justin's career hasn't been ruined- he's the only one who cares about the DV victims.. when asked why he thinks some women don't leave the situation, he responded saying we shouldn't even be asking that question- real question is why they were put in that situation to begin with. My friend who went through DV told me how understood she felt- leaving is so DANGEROUS, and oftentimes the victims get stalked, or face terrifying consequences if they are found in public by their abuser
The RUclips algorithm is obviously against Scandy. How does she not have millions of subs by now??!
The account hasn't been around for too long
For real great content
32:15 I see what you are saying but this is a woman who has been acting her entire life. Her whole family does press tours. A more appropriate response would be “I would much prefer they go through professional channels for DV advice but understand that I do sympathize with what you are experiencing however I am not in anyway trained in this area if expertise. I do however love and appreciate all of you and I’m honored you’d trust in sharing your experiences with me.”
She wasn’t caught off guard. She knew this question was coming she just wanted to be sarcastic and snarky like her husband.
And it does come down to people wanting to either further their careers or to ruin them. Blake could’ve easily ruined the interviewers career. The interviewer who talked about Blake’s bump was congratulating her because news just became public and was all over the news that Blake was already 8mo pregnant. She was slouched like she always is in the interviews and her belly looked smaller. It wasn’t a dig. The interviewer is from Norway and English is not her first language. It wasn’t harmful to say that and nobody cared. Blake is just a mean girl. Btw the interviewer is infertile aka she can’t have babies so it was even harder for her. She meant well. It resurfaced and she reposted it to clear the air once and for all because she never felt safe to speak out against how she felt with Blake.
The Team Justin girl is too nice. Scandy does not like to loose and comes up with crazy justifications for Blakes unjustifiable behavior.
It’s not a coincidence that she marketed her hair care line during the movie. She had creative control since she worked on it for seven years. Just like it’s tone deaf to promote alcohol along with a movie on DV it’s also bloody tone dead to promote hair care products. Cancel her.
yes. She could have a delayed the launch if she really cared about the movie's theme. They have plenty of money that she wouldn't have been hurting financially to just delay it a month, or to not try to tie everything together
Yup Justin side all the way
Blake's version is a typical Hollywood fun movie that glosses over the real issues, that actual dv survivors have problems with, brings money to sony and all those executives.
Justin's version apparently flowed well with these same people, probably won't be as profitable because you know what? Viewers will also choose a fun movie over a serious movie that actually talks about serious stuff. Probably that's why execs would do 12 more movies with lively, not with justin. Who knows
CoHo is from a dv home yet other people from dv homes and dv survivors don't see eye to eye with her in most if not all of her works? And she doesn't like the focus being on dv surviving which she based her book upon but rather wants florals, really?
It ends with us ×
It ends with money ✓
FYI - Sony Pictures holds the rights to 900 Marvel characters, including X-Men! It's in their benefit to say they want Blake Lively in 12 of their movies, when her husband is currently EXPLODING at the box office with Deadpool & Wolverine. She's a mean girl who 100% gives me Amber Heard vibes. She doesn't even look convincing in the snippets I've seen.
♥️ Really like the way you presented the information in this video. The interviews with Blake and the cast look like they are bored, embarrassed and under duress.
Team Justin all the way
Clearly no one hear reads celebrity blinds. Blake has always had a bad reputation for how she treats people. Sorry scandy, can’t agree with your team choice this time but love ya anyway
This is the best video on this drama I have seen so far (and I have watched way too many videos about this 😄)
Good job.
I really liked the idea of portraying both sides like this. And you have brought up some things I haven't thought about or seen yet.
Can’t wait for the lawsuit follow up!
it obvious the cast are brainwashed
Love the new duo! It’s great to hear both perspectives, and the dynamic between you two makes it even more engaging. It would be cool to see more vids in this format!
Noted!
Please, please, PLEASE do an update on this. PLEASE! The lawsuit has brought so much to light.
I think that Justin was a bit weak in his approach and allowed and even relied on Blake and other people to do things that he should have taken responsibility over. He seems like a laissez-faire kind of guy and I think you need to be a precise and adamant about things as a director for a movie like this.
Just imagine how annoying it would be on a movie set where the person who is supposed to be reliably directing the whole process is kind of lost in the sauce or going back and forth with ideas or moving a scene or the script because he heard a good suggestion from someone else last minute. It’s not good for the project and people are going to get frustrated and animosity is going to build.
A director is there to set the tone, clarify the underlying themes and dictate an actors emotional response to the scene or dialogue as he guides his actors through his visualization of the script. A director should be a leader with precise goals that he can communicate clearly.
I haven’t read the book, but for me, the movie wasted potential and didn’t lay out enough background on the characters or build an emotional connection between the audience and the characters. It seemed to me the two main characters had a nice sexual attraction, but that’s about it, which makes me think this whole intimacy thing really was a problem. There was a number of unnecessary sex scenes that I feel could have been omitted in order to show the characters actually falling in love with each other. Then the abuse would have been SO much more impactful and jarring. The push and pull of “should I forgive and stay or leave” would have been much more of a dilemma, not only for the character, but for the audience too.
It was a 2 hour movie (I think) and at the end of it, it’s moral (in my opinion) is don’t let a sexual relationship keep you in an abusive relationship… which I think misses the point of the book.
Blake Lively’s press for this movie has come across as very strange, self centered and obnoxious, but the movie really wasn’t ground breaking enough to take it seriously, so I can kind of see her considering it a loss (again, the script and movie could have really been something special). If you’re really passionate about something and it turns to absolute shit, people cope with that failure in ways that may seem bizarre. She’s also trying to make the most out of the press as she has other ventures she’s trying to launch right now. I think she made a decision to focus on her brand (hair care, fashion, whatever else she has going) for her survival because this movie was probably extremely stressful to film (she had to do things she shouldn’t have had to do) and the end result was maybe even potentially devastating to her and she wants to forget she even signed onto the project.
These types of 1 vs 1 are good when the ratio is a bit fair (or 50/50ish).
But in this case... and after seeing that "bump" interview... I am not sure what the lady on the left is doing here. This is not like when you're on trial...
I am not so sure Justin "FAILED" in anything. My intuition tells that he was pressured into doing some stuff he felt uncomfortable doing; thus his (IMO shady) comment about "Lively is prepared to be a director" when talking about a sequel. He clearly doesn't want anything to do with her, with Hoover or with anyone like them, anymore.
And no, the the lady on the left saying "Blake was right saying a DV victim is more than that." in the context of "A DV victim is more than that; it can be a DV victim with a nice hair or with a booze line.", thus promoting her business, or her stupid husband's new film, in a film about DV, is not ok.
Also, rewriting a scene without telling the female who was in charge of that, was rude and unfair.
I am not so sure why anyone would support Blake Lively either in that stupid interview situation or in this one.
I am for Justin in this particular situation.
I love the trial setup- if you ever do this format again bring back the BFF!! She’s awesome lol
1000000% agree. I love when people debate points with what facts are available and with some opinions thrown in, without any apparent bias. Like, literally just presenting both sides so the viewer can conclude their own opinion.
Even if Justin is in the wrong. Blake still gave all these horrible interviews, made a reporter want to quit her job, crossed the picked line...
Best case she is the worst. Worst case they both are. But she is the worst independently from what he is accused of
Love how you guys took different sides what a creative take on this I e seen so much coverage on this yet enjoyed watching you two duke it out! Great content!
Its understandable justin hired pr agency. Whole cast, even the writer of the book unfollowed him. I can only imagine what blake said or did that could make that happen. Its like johny depp, the world believed in amber before the televised trial. Blake is an amber.
team justin
IMHO, which may be wildly unpopular, and may contain my own errors, so please correct me on those, but with a little politeness please. I do think other than Ryan, there's someone who I feel should take some responsibility for the way this has become a mess, and that is the author herself.
Once the rights to a book, has been sold, technically the author does not have much say (or sway as to how the story transfers onto screen), which is a completely different medium, and a lot of moving parts. But Justin in his kindness, involved her to see the process...hence she was supposed to be the female gaze. Nobody is actually holding her accountable, in that...
1. She was biased with the casting of Lily, as she is a huge Blake fangurl.
2. During most of the tone deaf interviews, with "grab your girls, wear your florals", she's right there. Is it fair to only point the finger at Blake?
3. The whole reason of all the offers she had received, (info from interviews I have seen of either just her or her and Blake), she claimed was that Justin understood the main message and importance of the dark dv theme. Which he has said constantly and consistently in his interviews.
4. She also mentioned her father was an alcoholic who would then committed the dv. So it's not only Blake, who despite some of her beverage brand, was a little "tasteless", (to continue the theme), and if it was the non alcoholic versions, it may still APPEAR, to the public, (obviously it did leave a bad taste in the mouths of the audience), who were the ones calling Blake out as she should have known about the correlation between alcohol and dv.
5. They had to increase the ages of Lily, (supposed to be 23, and fresh out of college), because she didn't even check or research, (even for the book, which was extremely odd to me), how long it takes to become a neurosurgeon.
6. The focus groups preferring Justin's version, but including the Ryan rewrite on that scene, which you mentioned that it looked very male gaze...was the one by Ryan and Blake. Again, different from what she previously wanted Justin to do.
7.Funnily and finally it's "interesting", that when doing interviews now, the reason she sold the rights to Justin mentioned above, has now changed. When asked about the take home message, she almost parroted the Blake answer, "Hope. I mean when I saw what Blake had done with Lily...er...yes, I think it's hope."
And, @50.23, you have said that the author has sold the rights to the sequel to Blake is incorrect. Wayfair, Justin's production company, bought the rights to both novels.
Great point. CH's inactions could be considered careless at best and at its worse, calculated and money-hunger
Not a Blake fan but Justin really should have stepped back from being the director. I agree it would have been better to have a female experienced director for a "female gaze" and remain an EP. If his previous film on social issues received flak, he could perhaps learn or observe how others handle such theme.
Blake has too much marketing/producing prowess. She is bound to have that seamlessly, especially with her personality and connections. It's too bad there wasn't a firm head at the helm who can navigate the dynamics in the crew and cast.
Not finished your video enjoying watching you both together! I call for more collabs!
Justin all the way too!
I think it's likely Blake tried to take control where it's not her job to do so, causing contention. We know she already has an interest in directing. Sometimes when someone has such a huge ego they can give an aura of confidence that people naturally think you know what you are talking about or doing. I think Justin's humbleness and professionalism is actually making Blake look like a hero.
Team Justin 🤝🏽
C' mon now, we've always known she's not the brightest crayon in the box but she thinks she is. Funny how that can bsckfire on you in a big way. But when you play big games, you best be willing to take the hit ! Apparently she never saw it coming.
Narcissists are very stupid sometimes !
Boo Hoo Blake !💧
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Fifth grade recess energy with all these people, especially Hoover and Blake🙄… let’s normalize not idolizing anyone… I DID enjoy both the book and movie, though ☺️
It's funny you describe Blake Lively as "bigger name talent" when other than this, she hasn't had much buzz for an acting role in years because she barely works. At least until her husband hit that big billion dollar mark, now she has 4 in pre-production. 🥴
You both have a great dynamic! I hope you include your best friend more in future videos :)
I hope so too!
You know what I think? Blake and Justin actually had a love affair on set that they do not want to talk about. I think Justin ended it and Blake couldn't handle it and set up the whole cast against him and they went for it because Blake is the woman in this situation. The rest is just smoke and mirrors. It seems plausable because many unproblematic celebs have said that Blake is a 'steal your guy' kinda girl.
Yeah, what I'm learning more and more is that you shouldn't trust the actors' personas in social media or in interviews. They're actors. They know how to act. They know how to lie. It's literally their job. Honestly, with all this in mind, I'm team no one on this. Though, I have to admit that I may like Blake Lively less now than I did before I watched this-she seems like a worse version of her husband, Ryan Reynolds. She's the Ryan Reynolds we have at home. LOL.
Yeah, I don't hate anyone but it does seem that, as of rn, I am team J. B seems to have a lot of prior & current issues. Also, a note about CH's ridiculous stance that telling people a book has DV is "spoilers" or that no one would read it if she told them. That stance, imho, is terribly short-sided. I grew up with an abusive parent and have experienced ipv. I avoid most books centered on those types of violence. I do read the occasional book that includes those topics but none that are "centered" on it. And I guarantee you that if I get surprised by such from an author that I WILL DNF the book, leave it a 1 star review, and NEVER, purchase a thing from them again. If I am particularly salty about it I will tell everyone I know that reads, about my experience & thoughts. I have done it & would do it again. So really, all the drama wound up being very helpful to me in confirming that my decision not to read any further CH books and not to see the movie was a good one. And I think CH's view, that B also espoused, that a woman is more than DV is a kind of toxic positivity. The truth is it is just way more complicated than that. And hearing B say that was offensive to me (so I may be biased).
I like that you also had Rachel in the video! Great addition!
#teamjustin , I saw all those clips, read about it… Blake probably will direct sequel, so it makes sense that the cast would side with her - if they had to chose. There’s just something about Blake that I never really liked …
TEAM JUSTIN
Seems like a solid guy to me .❤
Why does the way they're sitting next to eachother make me feel like my two moms are gonna explain to me why our family is different 😭
Justin has been in the creative field since he was a teen. He’s always been producing amazing work, literally for decades
Though I am not in the slightest interested in this topic, I still enjoyed this video so much and I liked the way it was made. Also, I am so glad I got to be one of the first followers of this channel because I believe that it is one of the best channels that deal with these kind of topics on RUclips
Aw we love having you here!
Anyone defending Blake(with all her behavior around this movie, & the interview with her congratulating the interview lady on her “bump”, when that interviewer had infertility issues!) is grasping at straws! She is not a good person, it shows. She is just another out of touch with reality elitist celebrity. Also, people are easily swayed with $ & wanting to stay on the good side of their evil overlords in pe-do-wood(Hollywood), Blake is a powerhouse with her husband Ryan, so of course most of the cast & crew are going to side with Blake. They want to keep working & rub elbows with big names. It’s all a popularity contest. 🙄😒
Vote for Justin.
45:53 see I was concerned that playing an abusive asshole would affect his ability to direct/produce professionally. It’s hard for not only the person doing the acting and directing, but also the people around them to just snap back to reality after every cut. Someone having just screamed at you or pretended to abuse you then telling you what to do calmly can still be very off putting and stressful. I feel like maybe a lot of the drama could have been avoided had they hired an intimacy coordinator, hired a director, and hired a producer. He and Blake could have co-directed/co-produced but I do not think he should have played the abusive character while being like the head boss on set.
I ❤ this video and its different take on the It Ends With Us drama
Imagine if Justin Baldoni gets nominated for an Oscar for this movie.
He just might!
@@abbied that might be his greatest revenge and accomplishment. After all, Blake wants to win the Oscar so badly, and him winning it would hurt her and Ryan emotionally.
@@tonymedina1014 I agree
Guess we'll find out more when a Simple Favour Part Two comes out. They wrapped up filming and it's due out soon on Prime. See what happens with the Anna Kendrick and Blake drama. Only time will tell.
Anna Kendrick is just as vile as Blake.
I think what people forget is this is Colleen hoovers book at the end of the day. People were so mad that it didn't haven a powerful ending where he goes to jail.... but this is real life she was writing about because she lived it. Her dad never went away for abusing her mom. He got to live a happy life and that makes sense why she ended the book how she did or even talks about it like a silly girl would a romance book. Its not a romance book but it looks like one, abusers are often happy family men who no one expects would be abusive. Blake supported the writer and, personally, I think did an amazing job.
This was the humorous take on attempting to "both sides" the minor n typical artistic dispute in Hollywood. Personally, it angers me when ppl actually try to attribute nefarious actions/behaviors to Justin. The PR team doesn't honestly have to do anything to paint Blake as a villain -- or Justin as a saint. There are 100s of commentary videos daily doing that job quite well, including this one. These videos tell them directly n in real time how the public n press views their client. I find it telling nothing other than postulation (n the sketchy accusations of Blake early on) has come out about Justin, but there's tons of self inflicted character assassination video evidence, recorded n archived, on Blake. Justin is responsible for this movie even seeing the light of day--the rights were sold to him. He's the only documented one actually fulfilling his mission for the story, rather than promoting himself, as Blake's done. The prolonged silence between the initial story broke n why there's been no more statements by either team is obvious--the PR firms n lawyers are meeting n hammering out the financial n public damage control goals for both stars. I postulate this future: Blake n Justin will amicably settle this outside the public inquiry, cuz honestly it's a typical dispute with an actress who simply starred in the movie n put up some capital to get it made but suddenly took over the project's direction/marketing, even having her husband NOT CONTRACTED by the production write dialogue outside the production's knowledge. Blake "broke" contract perimeters, n some malicious motive can be proven. Justin stands to get a lot of money if he chooses to sell the rights to the released movie n the second book (sequel), which he may do cuz now that Blake has sullied the project. He had actual control of the project n production as him owning the rights entities him to the direction of its marketing, public messaging. As an actress n an investor, Blake's only job was to act the eff out of the lead role n profit at the box office. Period. Blake's sneaky, bullying, controlling, undermining, insensitive behavior made this movie rollout a disaster. I predict he'll keep the rights, but will allow the sequel to be made, he won't have any involvement other than his production company gets to produce n distribute it. He'll have complete background control. Blake stands to lose cuz she truly has no leverage. Despite her being close friends with Colleen, her reputation, past n present, is damaging her brand n celebrity cuz she's chosen to not address the trending negative public n press opinions. The silence reflects both teams are currently negotiating. The "drama" will blow over when they make an announcement on the agreement they reach. Imo Justin stands to gain immensely cuz Blake WANTS this franchise--it's the first thing she's done that a larger audience cares about. Good for Justin. When there IS public inquiry, cuz there definitely will be, Blake will be more business-like, succinct n might possibly include some neutral-to-positive compliment toward Justin to keep the drama from coming back. Her words n future appearances will be much more grounded, reflective n importantly NEUTRAL---a vast juxtaposition to her previous press. She might even include a very low-incendiary commentary/apology for her marketing choices of the movie.
JUSTIN: keep the rights to both movies, make the sequel urself, starring the internet's dream cast to revive the project n give it another chance = 🤑🤑🤑,🤑🤑,🤑🤑🤑 ( that's for free, u're welcome. )
You shouldn’t have to try and find holes in Blake’s bad decisions and choices that she constantly chooses to make. She’s been like this for decades. Doesn’t take much digging. She is a rich actor who plays the same type of dry character in everything she’s in. Just like Ryan, she doesn’t really have to act. She’s so far removed from the real world.
Hot take - what if they’re all bad and just competing to make each other look bad. Eventually someone will come out looking worse and that’s potentially Blake because of past discretions.
Interesting approach to this type video, enjoyed it!!
As a woman in film and photography, I don’t care. Males are much more common in the field. Speaking from experience in all my work and education, men dominate the field just because there’s more men.
SCANDY NEVER MISSES
Your bestie is gorgeous and GREAT on camera! Get it get it!
I think so too!
There is a systemic issue of women not getting enough positions in the system for them to play a bigger role in production. It’s not only Justin’s decision on who works In production
I think it’s pretty sus that right when the new Deadpool comes out, full of Ryan Reynolds making “fk Disney” jokes, they crash and burn failed to make their woke agenda work with audiences in their other projects and had to fire a bunch of people in Marvel, that now media is turning against and targeting his wife. Hmmmmmm.
Blake is GUILTY!
I love this video format
Great video.Im currently Team. Justin but I have no idea what the actual truth is
Team justin, i hate nepo babies
She hijacked his film. Not professional.
I'm worried about Baldoni, because her family and her husband have a lot of power in Hollywood. In videos in youtube, it is declared Sony and Netflix stand for her.
I LOVE your videos.
I struggle to believe that Blake is as Machiavellian as people are making her out to be. Don't get me wrong, she seems incredibly shallow, but it speaks volumes that the people who actually saw what happened are on her side. I really think Justin must be glossing over how badly things went on set; It seems like production was a very messy power struggle and he was the loser, possibly due to incompetence. Whatever happened, I think he genuinely lost the respect of most of the cast and crew, not that they were bullied into submission by Blake.
is it my computer or are the clips of them talking laggy? like the audio is fine but the video cam is really laggy?
its your computer
I heard people weren’t happy about Ryan rewriting lines because they thought it was disrespectful to the script writer and that he was butting in when not needed
But I hadn’t heard scab rumors. I’m pretty sure at this point he is considered a screenwriter so he wouldn’t of been able to write during that time either
You guys show one of the "lifts" at 44:25 of this RUclips post. It was in the rooftop scene.
Team Justin!!! Are u kidding me??
38:00 poor dog just wants to go outside