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How does your suspension affect what wheel specs you should choose ? Or does is not ? Feel dumb asking but i want my car to sit a little lower than it currently is so is is worth calculating these measurements now before i lower it or would it be better to wait until after ? Seems logical to wait but thought it be good to check with an expert 😁
This video made things so much more clear for me. New to the hobby, and wheel/tire fitments have been a struggle for me to comprehend until now😂 so even tho this video isn’t new, thank you soooo much fr
I did the exact same thing, but with a Conquest. All the wheel size info on the forum is super old (like tons of broken image links) and also seems incorrect, lol.
@@fitmentindustriesgarage5583 I'm not Roland, but I would kind of like to know how to pick wheel colour combinations to match your car 😅 Specifically for 3 piece wheels, but also 2 and 1 piece. I've been struggling for months -_-
@@fitmentindustriesgarage5583 Sure thing :) I meant in the sense of like the wheel colours that go well with car colours in general. Like if you have a white car, what colour wheels would match. Or a blue car, etc. I'm sure it's impossible to list every combination, but I was wondering if there are guidelines. Like if you have a red car and you make the wheels blue then it'll look bad. Or even shades, like if you have a light shade car colour. Do you match the wheels to the car colour or do you go for a darker wheel colour? With regards to my car, I have a 2008 Nissan 350z and it's a matte white front that fades smoothly to matte black in the rear. I'm going to add the RocketBunny kit and ESR LT11's but I don't know what colour combination to go with. Like if the face must be white or black, or lip be black to match or hardware colour. Initially it was gonna be white face with black lip and white hardware, but then I thought about the face being black. I just don't want the wheel details to be lost. So that gave me the idea of what is the guidelines for picking wheel colours that match your car 😅 Hopefully that makes sense 😅
This video described things that many other videos don't. Thanks! To go further, what we need is a calculator that lets us put in the section width of the new tire. It is misleading using only the tread size!
What about when you turn the front wheel such that the front or rear of it is outside the fender and you encounter a bump that pushes the suspension up? Aren't you going to have clearance issues then because of the overlap of fender and tire?
will a 18x9.5 35 Aodhan DSO8 fit correctly on a 2017 brz. also was wanting to get a stage 1 type stretch just not sure what tire size to get for my first set of "nice" wheels.
The factory offset is 35 I believe. Maybe the best thing is to just leave the car stock or maybe get wheels from the sport trim of your car model. Most stock wheels are much better than aftermarket unless you go with a super expensive alternative
this is true but doing research with all these number you can find a bigger or smaller “rim” and adjust the tire accordingly to keep the total measurement of the tire. In this video his car is obviously lowered so you could go more aggressive on stock suspension and than adjust coils to your liking! And let’s be honest some people can’t go without new aftermarket wheels like myself 🤣🙂
@@PoloZ34 don’t get me wrong, I like aftermarket wheels as well but the good ones cost so much. Recently I bough a pair of WALD Duchatelet 2 for my W211 and a pair of AMG wheels for my S212(wagon). I did a lot of research but I preferred to stay with the stock offset.
I’m just not able to wrap my head around this. It’s very discouraging having a car that is currently rubbing everywhere and I don’t know how to fix it.
@@fitmentindustriesgarage5583 yes, very poorly though. got the car from a guy that tried to give it a wide and low stance a now it runs extremely rich and idles poorly and the rear tires rub on any major bump. Needs a retune from Z1 and definitely a new set of wheels
Does anyone know what, "Inset" is? My 2022 WRX ... The Subi Service Manual for techs states the spec of the wheels is 55mm "Inset." I never heard of that.
My advice is to check out our gallery! Search your car and see what others are running for wheel specs and fitment specs! -> www.fitmentindustries.com/search-wheel-offset-gallery
As long as you don't have poke/your wheels can't contact the fender, you should be fine. On typical suspension setups, it comes down to the suspension geometry.
That is a little to close for my comfort. I hope you're on some stiff air-springs or coil-overs. Not sure if you track the car or not. The body roll that Benz would experience especially if you take corners like an AMG is capable of doing you're gonna be rubbing the fenders. I'm sure you're aware of that though. Just something I noticed. From one Euro owner to another.
Exactly. Of course he's not aware of what you pointed out. That's why he's out there with a ruler & measuring tape trying to figure out what Benz engineers already did when they engineered the car. Got a crazy feeling they didn't do it by going out to the driveway with a ruler.
You’ll fuck up your suspension geometry putting incorrect load on the wheel bearings, changing the tire contact patch, and fucking up your suspension mounts....but do you with your wheel guesses
Video not accurate, my stock rim is 5jx14 ET45, using that calculator linked I get 4.77in backspacing my real backspacing is 5.25 then you mention adding an inch to rim width. Wtih rim width 6in and offset at 45 I get 5.25. Also if I increase rim size 14 to 16 backspacing increase, now have option to go wider rim.
@@mraxlrose2959 last time I bought 20 inch rims aftermarket man my car was so off balance I fuck up the wheel hub screws and tie rod never do that again
@@petermuniz9296 I have a 2004 Grand prix with OEM wheels that have the chrome flaking off. OEM is way more expensive than aftermarket. I want to stay with the stock size too.
Took my 2014 GT Track Pack with Brembo brakes to Discount Tire after I ordered my package online....2 weeks later 😴 after getting front wheels to go with rear staggered setup. Idiots put on front wheels to check rotation to clear brake calipers they rubbed. Had to take off wheels and 30min later install 1/4 spacers to clear.
@@fitmentindustriesgarage5583 I have a M113K swap on my Chrysler Crossfire Srt6. It'll be done next month but I almost bought a 05 E55 with MBH long tubes. Such a VIP car ❤
@@fitmentindustriesgarage5583 yeah they only go one way, you're right. But that way is so the cross drill holes are spiraling off towards the direction of rotation, with the center fins scooping the air.
@@MT-THNDR207 Only the vanes dictate the orientation of the rotors. The vanes spirals outwards opposite of the direction of rotation. Assuming the holes spiral outward along with the vanes, then these rotors are on right.
@@2010ngojo I'm aware that true sport brake setups will have cooling ducts shooting air through the bumper to the rotor vanes in which will scoop the air while rotating and push the air toward the rotor hub. Though I believe F1 rotors function with a duct directing air to the back of the rotor's inner edge, drawing in air and expelling it outward along the circumference of the rotor
Funny thing is, THE ENGINEERS HAVE DONE THIS ALREADY. If you use the proper offsets, you'll have 0% issues 100% of the time under 100% of all conditions of driving, road conditions & suspension travel. The problem is, people go out to their driveway with a ruler & tape measure & think "well I didn't rub when I turned in this parking lot, so I guess 100% of my suspension geometry is totally figured out!" Aftermarket, etc wheel manufacturers COULD try actually making wheels with proper offsets to begin with, but that would make too much sense. Let me go get my string, because of course my string knows more than Mercedes engineers do.
OR ... just use your existing wheels as a guide to then know how much further you want your wheels to sit instead of faffing about with all the unnecessary time wasting bs in the video
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How does your suspension affect what wheel specs you should choose ? Or does is not ? Feel dumb asking but i want my car to sit a little lower than it currently is so is is worth calculating these measurements now before i lower it or would it be better to wait until after ? Seems logical to wait but thought it be good to check with an expert 😁
no
Nope
My wheel offset range is 35, but the wheel I want to purchase offset is 38. What do I have to do to make them fit correctly?
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This video made things so much more clear for me. New to the hobby, and wheel/tire fitments have been a struggle for me to comprehend until now😂 so even tho this video isn’t new, thank you soooo much fr
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I have a z31. I went on a forum for some recommendations on wheel size and the last post was from 2007 so here I am
I did the exact same thing, but with a Conquest. All the wheel size info on the forum is super old (like tons of broken image links) and also seems incorrect, lol.
@@JasonTownsendJasonTownsend same lol
i’m here for the exact same reason
This is exactly what I was needing to know and understand lately praise be FI 🙌
Thanks Roland! What else would you like us to cover that you’ve been trying to learn?!
@@fitmentindustriesgarage5583 I'm not Roland, but I would kind of like to know how to pick wheel colour combinations to match your car 😅
Specifically for 3 piece wheels, but also 2 and 1 piece. I've been struggling for months -_-
@@ethanford9678 what color car do you have, do you plan to paint/wrap it, and what theme are you going with?
Can you be a little more specific?
@@fitmentindustriesgarage5583 Sure thing :)
I meant in the sense of like the wheel colours that go well with car colours in general. Like if you have a white car, what colour wheels would match. Or a blue car, etc.
I'm sure it's impossible to list every combination, but I was wondering if there are guidelines. Like if you have a red car and you make the wheels blue then it'll look bad.
Or even shades, like if you have a light shade car colour. Do you match the wheels to the car colour or do you go for a darker wheel colour?
With regards to my car, I have a 2008 Nissan 350z and it's a matte white front that fades smoothly to matte black in the rear. I'm going to add the RocketBunny kit and ESR LT11's but I don't know what colour combination to go with. Like if the face must be white or black, or lip be black to match or hardware colour. Initially it was gonna be white face with black lip and white hardware, but then I thought about the face being black. I just don't want the wheel details to be lost.
So that gave me the idea of what is the guidelines for picking wheel colours that match your car 😅
Hopefully that makes sense 😅
This video described things that many other videos don't. Thanks! To go further, what we need is a calculator that lets us put in the section width of the new tire. It is misleading using only the tread size!
What about when you turn the front wheel such that the front or rear of it is outside the fender and you encounter a bump that pushes the suspension up? Aren't you going to have clearance issues then because of the overlap of fender and tire?
Great question, I'm surprised no one answered you yet
That is why I dont want to buy any wheel that has offset and width too far from stock wheel
Getting the same question
How do you know how far to jack up the suspension to get to ride height??
It’s never going to be “perfect” but essentially you’re going to want to start lifting on the suspension until the car starts lifting.
Fitment Industries Garage ahhh that’s a really good idea!! I need to re-time my bushings since lowering my car and this will make it much easier!
My question is once you find out your offset than what is the calculation to figure out the minimum and maximum offset allowed?
will a 18x9.5 35 Aodhan DSO8 fit correctly on a 2017 brz. also was wanting to get a stage 1 type stretch just not sure what tire size to get for my first set of "nice" wheels.
The factory offset is 35 I believe. Maybe the best thing is to just leave the car stock or maybe get wheels from the sport trim of your car model. Most stock wheels are much better than aftermarket unless you go with a super expensive alternative
this is true but doing research with all these number you can find a bigger or smaller “rim” and adjust the tire accordingly to keep the total measurement of the tire. In this video his car is obviously lowered so you could go more aggressive on stock suspension and than adjust coils to your liking! And let’s be honest some people can’t go without new aftermarket wheels like myself 🤣🙂
@@PoloZ34 don’t get me wrong, I like aftermarket wheels as well but the good ones cost so much. Recently I bough a pair of WALD Duchatelet 2 for my W211 and a pair of AMG wheels for my S212(wagon). I did a lot of research but I preferred to stay with the stock offset.
I have abc suspension. Can I just lift my arm like that too or do I need to make some sort of prepairing to do it?
Won't changing the factory offset affect ABS brakes?
this video made it super easy
Perfect I have a w211 amg as well!
I hope you exchanged those Harbor Freight Jack Stands when they recalled them.
Looking for help. Will 235/45/17 tires on wheels with 38 offset work on a 2010 cls 550?
Fab video, will certainly link this when trying to explain offset to people! Would be interesting to know your rear specs on the E55 too!
Damn I was really hoping this would be like a Hoonigan Project Cars channel :( I wanna see more work you guys do!
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
I’m just not able to wrap my head around this. It’s very discouraging having a car that is currently rubbing everywhere and I don’t know how to fix it.
Are all your fenders rolled and pulled?
@@fitmentindustriesgarage5583 yes, very poorly though. got the car from a guy that tried to give it a wide and low stance a now it runs extremely rich and idles poorly and the rear tires rub on any major bump. Needs a retune from Z1 and definitely a new set of wheels
Does anyone know! If 17x9.5 with 35 offset will fit a c5 corvette? Thanks
Does anyone know what, "Inset" is? My 2022 WRX ... The Subi Service Manual for techs states the spec of the wheels is 55mm "Inset." I never heard of that.
I have a 2010
Toyota Avalon xls, and soon to buy custom rims, I want my rims flush with fender, what would my offset be, please respond..
My advice is to check out our gallery! Search your car and see what others are running for wheel specs and fitment specs! -> www.fitmentindustries.com/search-wheel-offset-gallery
Really useful thanks
You're welcome! What would you like to learn next?!
is it a feasible option to measure the size and offset of a wheel when it's mounted the tires?
It should be labeled on the inside of the wheel
What if you have you car on shocks? Does the measurements change?
I don’t get how to use the fitment industries calculator. Can’t find it.
Rule of thumb, the higher the offset, the less aggressive the wheel. The lower the offset, the more aggressive the wheel!
How do i account for slammed stance when parked on air suspension?
As long as you don't have poke/your wheels can't contact the fender, you should be fine. On typical suspension setups, it comes down to the suspension geometry.
What I did was search up the stock wheel spec the car came with and it told me everything
That is a little to close for my comfort. I hope you're on some stiff air-springs or coil-overs. Not sure if you track the car or not. The body roll that Benz would experience especially if you take corners like an AMG is capable of doing you're gonna be rubbing the fenders. I'm sure you're aware of that though. Just something I noticed. From one Euro owner to another.
Exactly. Of course he's not aware of what you pointed out. That's why he's out there with a ruler & measuring tape trying to figure out what Benz engineers already did when they engineered the car.
Got a crazy feeling they didn't do it by going out to the driveway with a ruler.
Great help Mate love the calculator AAAA++++
Thank you
Is Off set really important?
Yes, if it’s not correct, it can fry your wheel bearings
I need a drink offset or algebra 😂
Easier to just mount the wheel on and see if its good to go 😂 the calculation quite confusing
Very true... It is easier to just mount the wheel. But are you going to know what wheel width, offset and diameter to order?
You’ll fuck up your suspension geometry putting incorrect load on the wheel bearings, changing the tire contact patch, and fucking up your suspension mounts....but do you with your wheel guesses
oh yeah? just install the wheel you want to buy? the wheel i don’t have yet? why didn’t i think of that? 😐
Oh wow, I thought choosing wheels is as simple as going to the store telling your tire size and they will give you the wheels that fit.
You are correct on that, they will sell you the rim that will match with your tires, but not with the car :D
why you guys do suv
What kind of car is this?
Great question! This is my 2003 Mercedes E55 AMG!
Video not accurate, my stock rim is 5jx14 ET45, using that calculator linked I get 4.77in backspacing my real backspacing is 5.25 then you mention adding an inch to rim width. Wtih rim width 6in and offset at 45 I get 5.25.
Also if I increase rim size 14 to 16 backspacing increase, now have option to go wider rim.
Mines is 50 but no after market has it
Mine is 52 stock.
@@mraxlrose2959 aftermarket don’t make rim like the factor what to do
@@mraxlrose2959 last time I bought 20 inch rims aftermarket man my car was so off balance I fuck up the wheel hub screws and tie rod never do that again
@@mraxlrose2959 my car was shaking like it was running on top of a mountain
@@petermuniz9296 I have a 2004 Grand prix with OEM wheels that have the chrome flaking off. OEM is way more expensive than aftermarket. I want to stay with the stock size too.
Took my 2014 GT Track Pack with Brembo brakes to Discount Tire after I ordered my package online....2 weeks later 😴 after getting front wheels to go with rear staggered setup. Idiots put on front wheels to check rotation to clear brake calipers they rubbed. Had to take off wheels and 30min later install 1/4 spacers to clear.
E55 baby
HELL YEAH
@@fitmentindustriesgarage5583 I have a M113K swap on my Chrysler Crossfire Srt6. It'll be done next month but I almost bought a 05 E55 with MBH long tubes. Such a VIP car ❤
This video made me feel stupid. Lol
Think I'll rather let the wheel shop figure out what wheel is suited to my car.
Lol
Leave it to the pros not the joes
Pro tip just use metric guys. Way easier and just convert it to standard.
just demonstrate with the physical wheels and tires
Mans got his front rotors on opposite
They only go one way my dude. These are OEM.
@@fitmentindustriesgarage5583 yeah they only go one way, you're right. But that way is so the cross drill holes are spiraling off towards the direction of rotation, with the center fins scooping the air.
@@MT-THNDR207
Only the vanes dictate the orientation of the rotors. The vanes spirals outwards opposite of the direction of rotation. Assuming the holes spiral outward along with the vanes, then these rotors are on right.
@@2010ngojo That's true. I've always known that people often don't know the proper orientation of cross drilled rotors
@@2010ngojo I'm aware that true sport brake setups will have cooling ducts shooting air through the bumper to the rotor vanes in which will scoop the air while rotating and push the air toward the rotor hub. Though I believe F1 rotors function with a duct directing air to the back of the rotor's inner edge, drawing in air and expelling it outward along the circumference of the rotor
I had high hopes this would help me but you talked way too quickly and didn't show visually the calculations so much, so I was lost in seconds.
Guy uses the straight edge the wrong way. Close enough I suppose. LOL
Funny thing is, THE ENGINEERS HAVE DONE THIS ALREADY. If you use the proper offsets, you'll have 0% issues 100% of the time under 100% of all conditions of driving, road conditions & suspension travel.
The problem is, people go out to their driveway with a ruler & tape measure & think "well I didn't rub when I turned in this parking lot, so I guess 100% of my suspension geometry is totally figured out!"
Aftermarket, etc wheel manufacturers COULD try actually making wheels with proper offsets to begin with, but that would make too much sense. Let me go get my string, because of course my string knows more than Mercedes engineers do.
So the best thing is try to find the same exact width and offset aftermarket wheels as the stock ones?
This video was not helpful, its does not give you an exact way to measure but more of guessing situation.
OR ... just use your existing wheels as a guide to then know how much further you want your wheels to sit instead of faffing about with all the unnecessary time wasting bs in the video