I had a little duster smoke my ass on the short end of the run. beat me like a stepchild out of the hole. I did however catch and pass him on the big end in my 69 1/2 Roadrunner 440 six pac.
Why was nothing mentioned of the 429 Mustang Boss? And why was there a picture of a 1970 GTO when you were talking about the incredibly good looking 1969 GTO Judge???
290hp gross, = about 215 net in todays more accurate terms. No way was it 400bhp. Mar 6, 2006 - The car was running an average of a 13.75 E.T. @ 105 MPH. This is an all original DZ, 4 speed, 4:10's. A 330hp 98 z-28 camaro ran 13.6
The big three all played the same game. The advertised gross HP was always at a fairly tame rpm. The power at actual redline was not mentioned in the brochure!
You failed to mention a few Chevrolet small blocks that were legendary muscle cars engines the 283 hi-proformance with 2 four barrel carbs, the 302 used in the first Camaro z28s, and the 327 that one version made over 360hp
Where’s the 428 CJ ? The beer budget 410 hp 470 ft lb based on the 50s 332 FE? Tasca Ford ring a bell. Or the 351C 4V at 380 hp and 410 lbs. The baby BBC, the Boss 429. Myself the best engine was never made. Imagine the 351 C heads on the FE? They weigh the same a 390-410 with Cleveland heads with the smaller bore 390-410 block a 390-410,bore. The 3.78-3.98 stroke already in the bin. All that 351 alphabet soup was unnecessary. The FE could have continued into the 90s. What were they thinking? Cheap too. Henry II called it his engine, the best in the entire world for all of history. The FE and SBC had a baby together called the LS. If I didn’t have a shed full of FE parts that LS is pretty good.
I'm thinking valve shrouding putting Cleveland heads on a smaller bore FE would happen, I had a 70 Mach1 with a 351C & 4 spd and at the same time (82-85) had a 68 F100 SB 352FE & 3 on the tree that I dropped what I was told a 390 but after breaking some motor mounts found out it was a 68 428CJ and came very close to swapping the engine into the Mustang but they both were running great so I left well enough alone, both those engines should have been brought up in the video, running a 590hp, 600 ft lb on a Super Flow engine dyno 454 bored .030 & stroked 4.25 to 489ci in my 68 Malibu now, lots a fun
@@shovelrick1the Cleveland had 4 inch bores. The 390/410 were 4.05, and the 406/428 were 4.13,the 427 was 4.23. Shrouding? All of the 351s had 4 inch bores. The Cleveland head on a 410/428 would have been a real stomper. On the 390, a high revving 400 ish engine vs the 351 4 inch bore I don’t understand?
@@shovelrick1It’s been so long for most folks. The 428s were a beer budget 427.,a bigger cam would have been better. But NHRA refactored it in Stock to 410 hp with a PI aluminum intake, but 390 with the iron one. And it was an easy block to cast. The 427 was more finicky with core shift.,the 428CJ was pretty well a 427 LR head, an.iron single 4 copy of the PI and the block was a 390 hp, And 406 block. It should have been in intermediates and Mustangs from the start.
There is so much to critique here. 1) Muscle cars NEVER had engines less than 383 CID. 2) Pony Cars and Full-sized cars are NOT Muscle Cars; Therefore a 500 CID Caddy engine is out. 3) You left out Buick and Oldsmobile engines. 4) Get rid of the AI narrator. 5) Better fact check some of your info. "The data on the MIG is inaccurate."
Ford HiPo - then they go to a Nascar shot of DODGE SUPERBIRDS (or Pontiac Daytonas) that used 426 Hemis. This video lost me in the first few seconds, it's so HORRIBLE at fact checking.
Actually, the Eldorado started with a 525 in it. It was a marine tugboat engine and the biggest gasoline engine GM made. We had one. From there they went to the 507, we had one of those too. And from there they went to the 425, and we had two of those; 6 425's in total in my family, they used them in everything until the 76 Seville, which used a 350. All were excellent engines. The Eldorado's were front wheel drive and both the 525 and 507 could smoke out the front tires on those huge heavy cars. And I mean melt the tires off smoke. And they got about 8 mpg. The 72 525 weighed 5,400 lbs. They got the weight down to 4,600 lbs but the 425 couldn't light them up on dry pavement. But both my 77, and 78 did get 18 mpg on the highway, which was quite amazing, really. They weren't slow, but a huge step down from the monsters, and were also was used in the GMC Motorhomes and Oldsmobile Toronado's which were also Front Wheel Drive. When the end came, they were down to 407's which wasn't enough for the Motorhomes, or the Olds Toronado's. The Motorhome was discontinued. The Toronado was extremely down sized like the Eldorado. Jr. versions of themselves. Comical, really.
Gawd I hate A.I. narrators. I'm only one minute in and I'm annoyed. "Ten Point Five One." No. It's Ten Point Five TO one. Flat TappetSSSSS, not Tappet. Not a "Two point distributor," a DUAL POINTS distributor. And don't get me started on "Trans A....M." "Blues....MoBULL"?
Yes, they were used in everything. Ford's best all time motor when you consider how many were being used. The 3.6 Pentastar made 295 hp and 10 million were made. It's a dual overhead cam V-6. I believe that's the most engines made by anybody on a single engine. I supercharged one and get 600 hp out of it.
The Cadillac 500 was only available in the Eldorado from 1970 to 74. It wasn't available in all models until 75. The 400 HP 500 was one year only in 70. It doesn't take much research to find this information
Shows a Pontiac Trans Am when talking about a Chrysler 340. It’s Trans Am, not Trans A M. Talks a ‘70 Cadillac while showing a ‘75 w/ an HEI. Shows an Oldsmobile in the thumbnail, but then never mentions Oldsmobile in the video.
I'm an ignorant Australian, and even I gave up after 44 seconds because you mentioned the 289 was in the legendary Shelby 350GTH. Do you even know what the H stands for? Why not just mention the 350GT?
I have to agree, the 5000 lb cars really shouldn’t be here. The 410 Mercury should have been a better option than the 390s, also the 428CJ? Would it be mentioned at the street hero level? 410 hp, 470 ft lbs? I am wielded out by the AI narrative too. A lot of great engines didn’t even get a mention.
Correct! And it was NEVER installed in an 80s Diplomat police special, a '64 Imperial, or late '70s L'il Red Express!. The Travco... yes that "muscle car" had a 440 V8!!
@@heyjoe9267 If it was the original engine in the New Yorker, it was a 413 (same RB block, same stroke, smaller bore). If it WAS a 440, it wasn't an original 1964 engine.
COME ON, WHERE'S THE 70 BUICK 455 STAGE 1. HOW IN THE HECK COULD YOU HAVE FORGOT THIS ONE, IT HAD 360 HP. AND 51O LB OF TORQUE AT ONLY 2,800 R.P.M. IF ANYONE KNOWS MUSCLE CARS, SURELY WOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS ONE. THIS BUICK WAS ONE BAD DADDY!!! I KNOW THIS ONE WAS MENTIONED DOWN BELOW BUT, 510 LBS. OF TORQUE AT ONLY 2,800 R.P.M. HOLY MOLY BAT MAN LOL.
The 340 was more like 325hp. O the old 361 with a sit of 906 heads off of a 440 on the 361 bump the Compression up to 12.5 Spin it up by 8800. It's about 700 horses. A 350 chev didn't make that much hp with Factory iron heads. 😊😊
Lose the AI narrator. No one calls them a 2 point distributor. They were called a dual point distributor.
A Chrysler 340 never went into a Firebird. They lost me right there.
no kidding eh the Trans EH EM!
Twin Point as well.
My Buick 455 Gs is a muscle engine🎉
The 440 Six Pack should have been on that list.
I have seen more than one 340 give a fit to a big block.
I had a little duster smoke my ass on the short end of the run. beat me like a stepchild out of the hole. I did however catch and pass him on the big end in my 69 1/2 Roadrunner 440 six pac.
My 69 chevelle SS fell victim to a friends 69 340 Dart. He had worked the heads and built a serious street warrior.
Why was a Trans Am shown during the Mopar part of the video?
Why was nothing mentioned of the 429 Mustang Boss? And why was there a picture of a 1970 GTO when you were talking about the incredibly good looking 1969 GTO Judge???
Where's the screamer: 302 DZ chevy hitting 10,000 RPMs, 290 horsepower but speculated at 400 horsepower
never did 10,000 rpm
290hp gross, = about 215 net in todays more accurate terms. No way was it 400bhp. Mar 6, 2006 - The car was running an average of a 13.75 E.T. @ 105 MPH. This is an all original DZ, 4 speed, 4:10's. A 330hp 98 z-28 camaro ran 13.6
356 horsepower at 6700 rpm with headers.
The big three all played the same game. The advertised gross HP was always at a fairly tame rpm. The power at actual redline was not mentioned in the brochure!
The 351C was the most handicapped engine in PS racing for a reason.
The only triple crown winner in nitro racing was Connie Kalitta with the Cammer.
Where is the discussion on the engine in the thumbnail?????
You failed to mention a few Chevrolet small blocks that were legendary muscle cars engines the 283 hi-proformance with 2 four barrel carbs, the 302 used in the first Camaro z28s, and the 327 that one version made over 360hp
And the LF6 400 that made 400 lbs @ 2200 RPM
Oldsmobile Rocket on cover page never mentioned. Lil Red had 360 police interceptor powerplant.
Where’s the 428 CJ ? The beer budget 410 hp 470 ft lb based on the 50s 332 FE? Tasca Ford ring a bell. Or the 351C 4V at 380 hp and 410 lbs. The baby BBC, the Boss 429. Myself the best engine was never made. Imagine the 351 C heads on the FE? They weigh the same a 390-410 with Cleveland heads with the smaller bore 390-410 block a 390-410,bore. The 3.78-3.98 stroke already in the bin. All that 351 alphabet soup was unnecessary. The FE could have continued into the 90s. What were they thinking? Cheap too. Henry II called it his engine, the best in the entire world for all of history. The FE and SBC had a baby together called the LS. If I didn’t have a shed full of FE parts that LS is pretty good.
I'm thinking valve shrouding putting Cleveland heads on a smaller bore FE would happen, I had a 70 Mach1 with a 351C & 4 spd and at the same time (82-85) had a 68 F100 SB 352FE & 3 on the tree that I dropped what I was told a 390 but after breaking some motor mounts found out it was a 68 428CJ and came very close to swapping the engine into the Mustang but they both were running great so I left well enough alone, both those engines should have been brought up in the video, running a 590hp, 600 ft lb on a Super Flow engine dyno 454 bored .030 & stroked 4.25 to 489ci in my 68 Malibu now, lots a fun
@@shovelrick1the Cleveland had 4 inch bores. The 390/410 were 4.05, and the 406/428 were 4.13,the 427 was 4.23. Shrouding? All of the 351s had 4 inch bores. The Cleveland head on a 410/428 would have been a real stomper. On the 390, a high revving 400 ish engine vs the 351 4 inch bore I don’t understand?
@@Bbbbad724 I’ve been away from Fords too long and forgot bore sizes 🙂
@@shovelrick1It’s been so long for most folks. The 428s were a beer budget 427.,a bigger cam would have been better. But NHRA refactored it in Stock to 410 hp with a PI aluminum intake, but 390 with the iron one. And it was an easy block to cast. The 427 was more finicky with core shift.,the 428CJ was pretty well a 427 LR head, an.iron single 4 copy of the PI and the block was a 390 hp, And 406 block. It should have been in intermediates and Mustangs from the start.
One of my gripes is the Windsor and Cleveland needed the same deck height s. 50 years later I'm still a bit pissed off, lol.
There is so much to critique here. 1) Muscle cars NEVER had engines less than 383 CID. 2) Pony Cars and Full-sized cars are NOT Muscle Cars; Therefore a 500 CID Caddy engine is out. 3) You left out Buick and Oldsmobile engines. 4) Get rid of the AI narrator. 5) Better fact check some of your info. "The data on the MIG is inaccurate."
The Pontiac GTO! The Judge! Glenn
Ford HiPo - then they go to a Nascar shot of DODGE SUPERBIRDS (or Pontiac Daytonas) that used 426 Hemis.
This video lost me in the first few seconds, it's so HORRIBLE at fact checking.
Actually, the Eldorado started with a 525 in it. It was a marine tugboat engine and the biggest gasoline engine GM made. We had one. From there they went to the 507, we had one of those too. And from there they went to the 425, and we had two of those; 6 425's in total in my family, they used them in everything until the 76 Seville, which used a 350. All were excellent engines. The Eldorado's were front wheel drive and both the 525 and 507 could smoke out the front tires on those huge heavy cars. And I mean melt the tires off smoke. And they got about 8 mpg. The 72 525 weighed 5,400 lbs. They got the weight down to 4,600 lbs but the 425 couldn't light them up on dry pavement. But both my 77, and 78 did get 18 mpg on the highway, which was quite amazing, really. They weren't slow, but a huge step down from the monsters, and were also was used in the GMC Motorhomes and Oldsmobile Toronado's which were also Front Wheel Drive. When the end came, they were down to 407's which wasn't enough for the Motorhomes, or the Olds Toronado's. The Motorhome was discontinued. The Toronado was extremely down sized like the Eldorado. Jr. versions of themselves. Comical, really.
Gawd I hate A.I. narrators. I'm only one minute in and I'm annoyed. "Ten Point Five One." No. It's Ten Point Five TO one. Flat TappetSSSSS, not Tappet. Not a "Two point distributor," a DUAL POINTS distributor. And don't get me started on "Trans A....M." "Blues....MoBULL"?
you would think that part would be fixed by now. but No, Everyone knows what a Trans A.M. is. lol
They didn't call the 396 BIG BLOCK RUMBLE GUTS for nothing. And that's exactly what they were. LOL
Is it me , not being a ford guy but IA seems to confuse FE side oiler and cammer...
The vanishing Point Challenger actually was equipped with the 426 (7.0L) HEMI.
It was a 440 in the original 1971 movie.
A mildly built 289 is a lot of fun in a light car
Yes, they were used in everything. Ford's best all time motor when you consider how many were being used. The 3.6 Pentastar made 295 hp and 10 million were made. It's a dual overhead cam V-6. I believe that's the most engines made by anybody on a single engine. I supercharged one and get 600 hp out of it.
Loved this video, really. Just as suggestion, 5 sec of their voices after description =)
You didn't mention the Ford 351 Cleveland. Perhaps a little more research.
Interesting video but the AI mispronunciations and grammar salad are just too annoying. Just record your own voice!
Grammar so you or good at pronunciation but don’t know shit about cars maybe you should turn to grammar section
All the Trans Am cars in Smokey and the Bandit were not 400 Pontiacs , all three Trans Ams were 403 Oldsmobile Small Blocks and T350 Autos.
Hey bozo you forgot a couple , chevy 302 dz , 409 , 350 lt1 , Pontiac 421 , 455, Buick 455 stage 1 , oldsmobile ,303,324,371,394 w31 350 ,w30 455 ,425 400 , and others ,come on now !!!
Add Ford Boss 429 !!!! Boss 351C
The Cadillac 500 was only available in the Eldorado from 1970 to 74. It wasn't available in all models until 75. The 400 HP 500 was one year only in 70. It doesn't take much research to find this information
Shows a Pontiac Trans Am when talking about a Chrysler 340.
It’s Trans Am, not Trans A M.
Talks a ‘70 Cadillac while showing a ‘75 w/ an HEI.
Shows an Oldsmobile in the thumbnail, but then never mentions Oldsmobile in the video.
Terrible video
I'm an ignorant Australian, and even I gave up after 44 seconds because you mentioned the 289 was in the legendary Shelby 350GTH. Do you even know what the H stands for? Why not just mention the 350GT?
I have to agree, the 5000 lb cars really shouldn’t be here. The 410 Mercury should have been a better option than the 390s, also the 428CJ? Would it be mentioned at the street hero level? 410 hp, 470 ft lbs? I am wielded out by the AI narrative too. A lot of great engines didn’t even get a mention.
I’m surprised that the AI narrator didn’t call the 340 Cuda AAR as the aar!
This has been one of the worst engine videos I've seen, lot's of mistakes 😢😮
That is right. Dual point distributor But win Electronic lgnition came out Hallelujah
The 440 didn't come out Until 1966.
Correct! And it was NEVER installed in an 80s Diplomat police special, a '64 Imperial, or late '70s L'il Red Express!. The Travco... yes that "muscle car" had a 440 V8!!
My first 440 had a production stamping from 1964. Took it out of a Chrysler New Yorker and dropped into a Dodge Dart.
@@heyjoe9267 If it was the original engine in the New Yorker, it was a 413 (same RB block, same stroke, smaller bore). If it WAS a 440, it wasn't an original 1964 engine.
It's not lb-feet, it's ft-lbs! Get it right!
302 BOSS made 290 HP at 5400 rpm & more at 6250 rpm . 290 hp was the maximum hp at 5400 rpm.
By the auto editors of consumer guide you will like that book
Ford has the mustang, truck and 302 and thats it. now they don't even have a truck really. lol
what about the chevy 327 good motor
Of a 327 got you out the hole. You played hell to run him down
I'm partial to Pontiac GTOs 400
That was a 1970 GTO!!!!!!
The AMC 390 or the 401 were the worst Big Block Engine ever fitted in a Pony Car
COME ON, WHERE'S THE 70 BUICK 455 STAGE 1. HOW IN THE HECK COULD YOU HAVE FORGOT THIS ONE, IT HAD 360 HP. AND 51O LB OF TORQUE AT ONLY 2,800 R.P.M. IF ANYONE KNOWS MUSCLE CARS, SURELY WOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS ONE. THIS BUICK WAS ONE BAD DADDY!!! I KNOW THIS ONE WAS MENTIONED DOWN BELOW BUT, 510 LBS. OF TORQUE AT ONLY 2,800 R.P.M. HOLY MOLY BAT MAN LOL.
The 340 was more like 325hp. O the old 361 with a sit of 906 heads off of a 440 on the 361 bump the Compression up to 12.5 Spin it up by 8800. It's about 700 horses. A 350 chev didn't make that much hp with Factory iron heads. 😊😊
327 Try to find one GOLD
1964 327 put out 365 horsepower, probably 425 horsepower
That was at the flywheel. So, 290hp net, maybe 365 if underrated.
I own a 351 c talk about it
283 was one of Chet best small black But no match for 327
428 super cobra jet broke high 13 429 boss 429 cobra jet low 14
Great generic footage. At 1:20, we see a 4WD Mustang being assembled.
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Go to book store like for. Kings of the street. American music cars
Keep ur gm all gm 😂
No L88
Trans A M ?
Trans A M. Get rid of the AI voice.
Muscle cars all had big block motors hence the name muscle
I've seen small blocks beat Big blocks.
Big blocks don't define muscle
He forgot the Chevy 302
Not true
@@Kamala-aint-Black and the 283 hi performance and the 327
@@Kamala-aint-Blackand the 283 and 327
Fin stupid AI
Go to book store like for. Kings of the street. American music cars