여러분 안녕하세요. 용접의 종류는 다양합니다. TIG용접, MIG용접, 전기용접, CO2용접, 레이저용접 등등... 용접방법 마다 각각의 장점들과 단점들이 있습니다. 그에 따라서 쓰임새도 각각 다릅니다. 얇은 박판 용접이나 판금용접 그리고 고퀄리티 용접에는 TIG용접기와 레이저용접이 많이 사용됩니다. 그런 용도에 사용하기 적절하기 때문일 겁니다. 오늘은 티그용접과 레이저용접이 어떤 차이점이 있는지 간단하게 비교해보겠습니다. 레이저 용접기 사용방법에 대한 내용들과 더 다양한 비교 영상들도 차후에 소개시켜드리도록 하겠습니다. 시청해주셔서 감사합니다 그리고 즐거운 한주 보내세요. 사용된 알곤용접기 내쇼날시스템 300암페어 AC DC 알곤 용접기 AC DC NST 300FD ↓↓↓↓↓↓ 네이버 쇼핑 bit.ly/39OiCRL smartstore.naver.com/tigwelding/products/6842018935 용접기 및 주변기기에 대한 내용은 제조사에 문의 하시면 더 정확한 답변을 얻으실수 있습니다. ↓↓↓↓↓↓↓ korea@nswel.com 내쇼날시스템 대표전화 051-941-9701~2
Не советую использовать лазерную сварку . Наш директор тоже купился на демонстрацию. В итоге купил аппарат . Теперь этот дорогой хлам за 25000 $ стоит в цеху как декор. А все дело в том что шов не может пройти лабораторные проверки. Шов пористый и от этого не возможно избавиться
It would also be nice to compare the breaking point of the welding to understand the difference between TIG and LASER. Thanks for your nice contribution
С вами полностью согласен, но рассматриваю данный девайс 2 в 1. Прицениваюсь, что бы совместить лазерную очистку поверхностей и лазерную сварку., А так же просчитываю ресурс....
@@TheWinwin4all полторы это не реально нормальный аппарат более менее начинается от 15к $, я себе тиг сварку покупал аппарат месяц назад 1200$ выложить пришлось
The Laser welder was feeding in filler metal for starters and the TIG was a simple fusion weld so apples to oranges. The discoloration of the tig was due to a lack of shield gas flow. If there had been sufficient flow with the gas lens on there the discoloration would have been minimal. With the TIG and a piece of small filler simply layed on top of the joint of the fusion pass it would have resulted in a far better finish.
I wish you spoke English but your welding speaks for itself. I've never seen a laser welder before. Very impressive!!!!!! I hate to know the cost of the machine!!
Hello Master. :) Would you also show how the laser is performing on difficult to weld metals like BRASS? Thin brass is difficult to weld with TIG, and if the laser can make this easy, that will be a great advantage. Thanks for everything that you teach. Very appreciative!
@@JSuparman Flux, as in kolophonium. It removes oxidized metal and protects it from the air causing any further oxidization throughout the soldering process, it also allows solder to flow much better.
this is not entirely true ... during laser welding, the penetration is small, but due to the low temperature of the weld and minimal heat dissipation (energy is applied precisely to the weld and in a much more controlled way) around the weld, you get a weld with much better strength parameters
@@marcinekawski2060 I have edited my comment because i realized I said something stupid and uninformed, you said 50mm is the maximum thickness and 1.5mm is the minimum? I imagine you would have to drastically change your setup right?
@@3ch0_17 I laser weld elements with a thickness of 1.5 -5mm, it all depends on what thickness of wire you use, what frequency of the laser and how many watts. as for thicker welds, I don't know but they told me during the training that you can weld material up to 50 mm thick // sorry but I don't know exactly what all the markings you gave mean, I live in Europe and I'm not very good with other units
I think you should stress test both welds using a simple H shape, table design to test the sheer force to see which performs at the highest loading of weight. The methods work but we should ask ourselves, which is the stronger weld, by testing.
That was my thought also. Almost every weld test I have done didn't care how fast I did it. They wanted to know two things. Did my weld have flaws, bubbles, and did my weld stand up to a stress test? Fast doesn't always mean better. You're stitching two pieces of metal together. That isn't a process that needs to be rushed in some applications. As in pipe fittings. That could mean a failure or even catastrophic failure that could harm, or even hurt, or kill someone. When something is under that much pressure. I would rather burn a weld in for as much longer time than speed up the process and take the risk of a failure. I do see where this tech could be applied in other areas in manufacturing. In some applications it just wouldn't replace the tig welder at all. Those areas Tig is King and will remain superior until someone comes along with something that can beat it. It is a neat rig. I will say that.
pretty sure most places only use laser welding for non structural work ie: decorative pieces and venting. stress test doesnt matter much in those applications only that it holds and is sealed.
I've seen two pieces of flat stainless bar laser butt welded together with no wire (fusion weld) then press-brake bent to 90 degree and the result was absolute perfection. Here's a CES demo ruclips.net/video/MbxO6gtQIdo/видео.html
@@RestorationWatch I am someone who worked in a manufacturing environment that used mig welding robots and handheld mig welding. We produced lawnmower parts. This application is for the Aerospace industry. The original video didn't make that clear. It was making a show of how much more superior this laser welder is. In this guy's description. The cost would be WAY too much for a lawnmower manufacture to apply this to its production line. Unless you wanted to mow Mars. The lawn mowers would cost so much it wouldn't make since. Have you priced the cost of Nitrogen gas for welding? Just a small bottle for me to tig weld was $450+ in 2019. I don't want to know what it is now!!! This Laser welder may be Awesome, but it will be for specific applications where absolutely no contamination of the weld can be present, and it MUST be perfect and strong. It is just very new, and everyone needs to see what it is capable of. 👍
@@JAY-fq7sb I was working in a manufacturing environment where we had robot welders back in the 1980s. I also had my own manufacturing business not long after where I used my skills as a First Class Welder MIG welding mild steel. With LASER welding you don't need to use nitrogen at all, in fact, it's REALLY dangerous to be working with nitrogen! With LASER you only need to use standard argon or helium with CO2 being the most used gas for laser welding. Just to be clear, there are much cheaper Chinese LASER welders that come with wire feeders already on the market that are VERY affordable, and when compared to a TIG welder are 4 times faster (up to 4.6 times in fact). They also can clean the weld up with the LASER afterwards, as well as be used to cut metal much like a plasma cutter, but even cleaner. We've all seen LASER cut metals by now. By the way, India are also manufacturing LASER welders with MANY manufacturers. They also use the process heavily in their industry. This is not a niche welding process, but rather the future of welding manufacturing processes. It is not "new" at all, and it taking over in a big way already. All that said, the MIG welder is still king for general manufacturing when it comes to manual welding of mild steel. Not to mention the millions of robot welders that are already in use that populate factories all over the world. These welders have very long lives and are reused in new ventures regularly.
레이저용접기는 끝이 < 이런 모양으로 벌어져있는데요. 필렛용접을 안쪽이 아닌 바깥쪽에서 해야 할때도 용접이 가능한가요? 기계 케이스 공장인데 내부는 용접기가 안들어갈 만큼 입구가 좁은 케이스가 많아 바깥쪽에서 용접 후 사상작업으로 제품을 만들고 있습니다. 지금은 티그용접기로 중간 중간 포인트들을 찍어가면서 용접하고 있는데 레이저용접기로 하면 어떻게 되는지 궁금하네요
Excelente tutorial maestro, el láser es otro nivel, es como una evolución de la soldadura TIG, más rápida y limpia, gracias por compartir sus conocimientos y experiencias, un saludo cordial y por supuesto un gran like desde Narón (Galicia)👍🤓
I have welded mig, tig and arc for years and usually with those 3 you can get the weld speed and penatration, but these new welders seem to look like a nice weld and apparently they are fast and efficient but I have been told that the flash from these machines can be very dangerous to other workers if you don't have a well sealed welding area.?.
Its still a laser, and a very high powered one, essentially. And while looking directly into a regular welding arc is unhealthy over time, a high powered laset can essentially blind you pretty quickly. I dont know the absolute specifics here but, based on my knowledge of industrial lasers and their safety, this would be the main issue.
I'm wrong my friend, this is not like riding a bike, it's not because of an extremely easy machine that a novice will do something like a pro, soldering is not just melting and melting the material you have to know so that there is no damage or even a solder breakage, you are totally wrong in your speech
Лазерная сварка очень специфическая технология. Основной недостаток - нагрев только поверхности и очень низкое КПД лазера. По этому варят лишь тонкие детали. А в космосе варят электронным лучом. (Как кстати и поворотный узел крыла у ТУ160)
@@ikuznyetsov Специфическая ? Да ! И у каждой специфики есть свои предпочтения. Неоспоримые достоинства лазерной сварки это скорость, отсутствие термической деформации в зоне сварки, что в общем то является неоспоримым преимуществом по сравнению с другими видами сварки в автомобильной промышленности при сварке кузовных элементов. Если бы на сервисных центрах и СТО при проведении ремонтно-сварочных работ применяли именно этот вид сварки то кузова в местах сварки долго бы не подвергались воздействию коррозии (имхо).
Tem outro ponto importante: penetração da solda nos materiais e sua resistência final. Só reparar os cordões aos 13:52 da solda a laser e 13:56 da solda TIG. E pelo que notei, posso está enganado, a solda TIG está de forma mais resistente, tem penetração no metal e com isso uma resistência bem maior. Essa laser pode até sem útil para chapas bem fina, mas quando se trata de solda com muita resistência, TIG, MIG-MAG, eletrodo revestido e arco submerso são imbatíveis. Trabalhei um bom tempo numa empresa como soldador por arco submerso. Corimpex a máquina que operava.
Друзья, у каждого вида сварки есть свои плюсы и минусы, так что лазер не везде прокатит... но тенденция к замещению "сварки орудий каменного века" явно прослеживается...Хочется поблагодарить автора подобного материала и далее выкладывать ролики аналитического сравнения видов сварочных работ....
Friends, each type of welding has its pros and cons, so the laser will not work everywhere ... but the trend towards replacing "welding of Stone Age tools" is clearly visible ... I would like to thank the author of such material and continue to upload videos of an analytical comparison of types of welding ....
أصدقائي ، كل نوع من أنواع اللحام له إيجابياته وسلبياته ، لذلك لن يعمل الليزر في كل مكان ... لكن الاتجاه نحو استبدال "لحام أدوات العصر الحجري" واضح للعيان ... أود أن أشكر مؤلف هذه المواد والاستمرار في تحميل مقاطع فيديو لمقارنة تحليلية لأنواع اللحام ....
Amis, chaque type de soudage a ses avantages et ses inconvénients, donc le laser ne fonctionnera pas partout ... mais la tendance à remplacer le "soudage des outils de l'âge de pierre" est clairement visible ... Je voudrais remercier l'auteur d'un tel matériel et continuez à télécharger des vidéos d'une comparaison analytique des types de soudage ....
חברים, לכל סוג ריתוך יש את היתרונות והחסרונות שלו, כך שהלייזר לא יעבוד בכל מקום... אבל המגמה של החלפת "ריתוך כלים מתקופת האבן" ניכרת היטב... אני רוצה להודות למחבר של חומר כזה ולהמשיך להעלות סרטונים של השוואה אנליטית של סוגי ריתוך....
Жаль, что в Беларуси о лазерной сварке пока можно только мечтать. Спасибо за обзор! p.s. не знал, что лазерная сварка может так же варить с присадкой...
@@XaLi_GaLi я немного вам поясню. Иногда лучше молчать и казаться идиотом, чем заговорить и развеять сомнения. Мне очень жаль, что вы из слов которые я написал выше извлекаете только звуки а не смысл слов и предложений. Смысл слов (мечтать в Беларуси) и (мечтать Беларуси) о лазерной сварке отличается. Обратите на это внимание. Прежде чем писать комментарии. А обращение на "Ты" к незнакомому оппоненту говорит о "пропавшем" морально-этическим" вашем воспитании...
@@andrusentjau4348 , милейший, смею заверить, что обращение на "Ты" с заглавной буквы вызывает меньше душевных содроганий, чем на "вы" со строчной. Это так, к размышлению. Адказваць не трэба, гэта лішняе. Уж луше Вам прочесть второе предложение Вашего же ответа :-)
😎👉🏼You sir, are truly a😎👏👏👏👏 "craftsman above craftsmen👏👏👏👏"😎, 👌awesome to watch👀 and 👉🏼beautiful results👈🏼.....you have👏👏 👌👍🏼my utmost respect 👍🏼👌👏👏from this old kiwi......be blessed 🙏🙏🙏🙏
La comparativa no está mal pero a mi parecer falta un parámetro esencial LA PENETRACION. Cuánto penetra la soldadura láser? Porque dependiendo de este parámetro este tipo de soldadura solo vale para espesores delgados en el cual la soldadura no va a llevar una gran responsabilidad. No olvidemos que uno de los puntos fuertes del TIG es la penetracion que tiene aparte de muchos otros.
Хорошая сварка, швы идеальные, скорость сварки выше чем у TIG, только одни преимущества! Но есть один недостаток.... Стоит эта сварка как квартира в центре Москвы...
I really would like to know how's the penetration in laser welding compared to Tig welding. I work stainless steel mostly AISI 304 and 316, I work for pharmaceutical and alimentary, so for me full penetration welding is a daily thing. Can I perform a full penetration weld with the laser? Can I get a good weld on the outside protected by Argon? If it's possible, can I perform a full penetration welding with the same level of "non-deformation" saw in the video, due to the cold precess? Thank u in advance whoever can answer me, I really would like to know, I love improving my workshop and make my employees's lives better.
One important key point is that fiber laser welder is capable of adjusting the output power, of which affecting the laser beam energy thus giving a different penetration on different materials. At present, the most common handheld laser welder is able to coupled with 3kW laser power, with a max penetration at 7-8mm on mild steel materials, 6-7mm on stainless steel. Copper, aluminum or brass are hard materials to be welded by laser due to its high reflection rate on laser wavelength. However, laser technology continues to improve, we will soon have a powerful handheld laser welder which can have much deeper penetration
Сварка аргоном идёт явно с перегревом и недостатком газа. При правильных режимах сварки результаты должны быть одинаковыми. При это оборудование для лазерной сварки очень дорогое и громоздкое. Видео сделано потрясающе.
Интересное сравнение получилось. Да у сварки лазером есть преимущества и в скорости и в меньшем потреблении тепла, что может сказаться на качестве определённых сварочных работ. Спасибо за вашу работу. 👍
Can this laser welding be used for heavy steel construction, such as IWF welding. What is the strength factor? give examples of welding in IWF 600 profile steel
Nice video thanks for sharing!!! The point is that all these laser welding machines are heavy and very expensive for hobbyists so it is not possible to buy everybody only the professionals.... Have good time every time!!! Best regards from Hellas (Greece)
3 minutes in I was pretty sure this is an ad for the laser welding machine. Shows back side of weld for 3 seconds, you can see how little the laser penetrates. I still want one, there are a lot of potential uses for it.
I've only learned about this form of welding recently and I'm convinced this is the future of welding in manufacturing settings. For small scale stuff and outdoors I think MIG and TIG are still the kings due to the safety requirements of this type of welding, you can't exactly setup a tent everywhere you want to weld. But if your producing stuff in a workshop I don't see why one of these wouldn't be perfect, just throw up a few barriers in a corner somewhere and you're good.
Laser has a much sharper focus, this concentrates heat. GTAW power supply is constant current, meaning variable voltage since arc length dictates voltage. Long arc means higher voltage which means more heat over larger area. Laser will not do well in chrome moly, the rapid cooling will make a brittle heat affected zone.
A soldagem tig exige muito mais abilidade do soldador chega a ser um trabalho artesanal de costurar o metal. Ja a doldagem lazer parece ser facil e limpa qualquer um pode fazer. Nao creio que uma va substituir a outra pois ha espaço para as duas.
![weld [HAGOJIBI]](http://yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AIdro_lButtTy6bwshHHOdUuuc7ktsddm0YgRj2FhqoPUm3aQA=s48-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj)
여러분 안녕하세요.
용접의 종류는 다양합니다.
TIG용접, MIG용접, 전기용접, CO2용접, 레이저용접 등등...
용접방법 마다 각각의 장점들과 단점들이 있습니다.
그에 따라서 쓰임새도 각각 다릅니다.
얇은 박판 용접이나 판금용접 그리고 고퀄리티 용접에는 TIG용접기와 레이저용접이 많이 사용됩니다.
그런 용도에 사용하기 적절하기 때문일 겁니다.
오늘은 티그용접과 레이저용접이 어떤 차이점이 있는지 간단하게 비교해보겠습니다.
레이저 용접기 사용방법에 대한 내용들과 더 다양한 비교 영상들도 차후에 소개시켜드리도록 하겠습니다.
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Would be nice to see a cross section cut to see the penetration, etc but otherwise fantastic video, thank you!
I agree
研磨はできないね
Не советую использовать лазерную сварку . Наш директор тоже купился на демонстрацию. В итоге купил аппарат . Теперь этот дорогой хлам за 25000 $ стоит в цеху как декор. А все дело в том что шов не может пройти лабораторные проверки. Шов пористый и от этого не возможно избавиться
@_𝟏𝟑𝐤𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐨𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐤_ thank you for that very important information. I wonder if the type of material vs laser wattage could make a difference.
Mohamed
I would really like to know the strength test results between laser and TIG.
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Very strong! I have both.
Здорово! 👍
Провар одинаковый или разный? Лазерная сварка видимо поверхностная, если говорить о качестве шва то tiq сварка мне кажется лидирует.
Да профи с присадкой быстрее бы заварил тигом. Он нарочно перегревал нержавейку, так делать нельзя.
@@denisyegorov5109 Согласен, по сварке даже заметно было нагрев!
@@denisyegorov5109 Это скорее может и реклама. Деньги знаете ли могут многое 😂
Для 3 мм нержавейки ток 80А маловато будет. Наверное нужно было ставить 100-110А, скорость перемещения была бы больше, и перегрева меньше.
@@nuneznaiu4512 согласен реклама.
По чему не была показана обратная сторона свариваемых пластин в первом случае, интересна обратная сторона шва, есть ли провар ?
Конечно нет там провара), совсем!
Такого класса аппарат проварит хорошо 1мм.
Конечно там нет провара /)))
Really great tutorial. Many thanks for the English subtitles.
It would also be nice to compare the breaking point of the welding to understand the difference between TIG and LASER.
Thanks for your nice contribution
Tig wins by long shot.
Как всегда классно показано и рассказано. Но есть одно но лазерная сварка очень дорогая, так что она не всем под силу
С вами полностью согласен, но рассматриваю данный девайс 2 в 1. Прицениваюсь, что бы совместить лазерную очистку поверхностей и лазерную сварку., А так же просчитываю ресурс....
Полторы штуки зелёными
@@TheWinwin4all полторы это не реально нормальный аппарат более менее начинается от 15к $, я себе тиг сварку покупал аппарат месяц назад 1200$ выложить пришлось
Все так от 15тыс баксов на заводах в Корее стоят такие лазера
The Laser welder was feeding in filler metal for starters and the TIG was a simple fusion weld so apples to oranges. The discoloration of the tig was due to a lack of shield gas flow. If there had been sufficient flow with the gas lens on there the discoloration would have been minimal. With the TIG and a piece of small filler simply layed on top of the joint of the fusion pass it would have resulted in a far better finish.
slow tig wedding I was thinking 150 amps and get a move on thais was bull shit
Aparte la soldadura laser no tiene penetración,dudo que sirva en trabajos que este expuesto a fuerzas y presiones,
So... what does he have in his left hand during the fillet weld?
Ottima presentazione. Il laser ha evidenti vantaggi in più sul tig.
👍👍👍😊
I wish you spoke English but your welding speaks for itself. I've never seen a laser welder before. Very impressive!!!!!! I hate to know the cost of the machine!!
we own one and it costs around $15k, very lightweight and even a non-professional welder can use it when set correctly, also it saves a lot of time.
Джин ждал с нетерпением про этот вид сварки! Спасибо за твой труд
Dura
Excelente!! tú como siempre, explicando cual maestro, lo único es que la máquina de laser es muy cara saludos cuídate mucho
Дякую , такого відео ще не має на просторі ютуба.
The speed is awesome for sheetmetal work... but I would seriously question the bond and penetration, for anything thicker than 10 gauge.
Are you from New Bedford?
Try it, give it the bend test, the hammer test, then send it to the x-ray lab
@@normalassguy - nope
@@darrinjones9387 - just cut through it and acid dip it. The fade will indicate the penetration.
Excellent video , keeping up on new tech .Amazing how little heat distortion lazer welding offers .
У tig сварки есть импульсный режим. Автор не умеет варить
Muchas gracias por su video, maestro, larga vida y prosperidad para usted y los suyos
Very well presented video and thank you for the subtitles
Отличное сравнение. Хороший специалист.
ну и чем этот чимида хороший? поставил на тиге ток для пивных банок и сравнивает лазер с пальцем... шарлатан чимида
Hello Master. :) Would you also show how the laser is performing on difficult to weld metals like BRASS? Thin brass is difficult to weld with TIG, and if the laser can make this easy, that will be a great advantage.
Thanks for everything that you teach. Very appreciative!
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I think that flux is necessary for brass.
@@luciusirving5926 Fluxcore Welding - you mean?
@@JSuparman Flux, as in kolophonium. It removes oxidized metal and protects it from the air causing any further oxidization throughout the soldering process, it also allows solder to flow much better.
TIG Brazing With Silicon Bronze works great on brass. Pretty easy really.
One thing I've noticed about laser welding is that, unless everyone gets the settings incorrectly, it does not penetrate the base metal very much
because you don't see real welding laser,this is onlt laser for see where you put the wire
this is not entirely true ... during laser welding, the penetration is small, but due to the low temperature of the weld and minimal heat dissipation (energy is applied precisely to the weld and in a much more controlled way) around the weld, you get a weld with much better strength parameters
@@marcinekawski2060 I have edited my comment because i realized I said something stupid and uninformed, you said 50mm is the maximum thickness and 1.5mm is the minimum? I imagine you would have to drastically change your setup right?
@@3ch0_17 I laser weld elements with a thickness of 1.5 -5mm, it all depends on what thickness of wire you use, what frequency of the laser and how many watts. as for thicker welds, I don't know but they told me during the training that you can weld material up to 50 mm thick // sorry but I don't know exactly what all the markings you gave mean, I live in Europe and I'm not very good with other units
WELL, WELL,WELL. WE HAVE BETTER THINK TWICE B'4 GETTING THAT MACHINE. WRIGHT?
I think you should stress test both welds using a simple H shape, table design to test the sheer force to see which performs at the highest loading of weight. The methods work but we should ask ourselves, which is the stronger weld, by testing.
That was my thought also. Almost every weld test I have done didn't care how fast I did it. They wanted to know two things. Did my weld have flaws, bubbles, and did my weld stand up to a stress test? Fast doesn't always mean better. You're stitching two pieces of metal together. That isn't a process that needs to be rushed in some applications. As in pipe fittings. That could mean a failure or even catastrophic failure that could harm, or even hurt, or kill someone. When something is under that much pressure. I would rather burn a weld in for as much longer time than speed up the process and take the risk of a failure. I do see where this tech could be applied in other areas in manufacturing. In some applications it just wouldn't replace the tig welder at all. Those areas Tig is King and will remain superior until someone comes along with something that can beat it. It is a neat rig. I will say that.
pretty sure most places only use laser welding for non structural work ie: decorative pieces and venting. stress test doesnt matter much in those applications only that it holds and is sealed.
I've seen two pieces of flat stainless bar laser butt welded together with no wire (fusion weld) then press-brake bent to 90 degree and the result was absolute perfection. Here's a CES demo
ruclips.net/video/MbxO6gtQIdo/видео.html
@@RestorationWatch I am someone who worked in a manufacturing environment that used mig welding robots and handheld mig welding. We produced lawnmower parts. This application is for the Aerospace industry. The original video didn't make that clear. It was making a show of how much more superior this laser welder is. In this guy's description. The cost would be WAY too much for a lawnmower manufacture to apply this to its production line. Unless you wanted to mow Mars. The lawn mowers would cost so much it wouldn't make since. Have you priced the cost of Nitrogen gas for welding? Just a small bottle for me to tig weld was $450+ in 2019. I don't want to know what it is now!!! This Laser welder may be Awesome, but it will be for specific applications where absolutely no contamination of the weld can be present, and it MUST be perfect and strong. It is just very new, and everyone needs to see what it is capable of. 👍
@@JAY-fq7sb I was working in a manufacturing environment where we had robot welders back in the 1980s. I also had my own manufacturing business not long after where I used my skills as a First Class Welder MIG welding mild steel. With LASER welding you don't need to use nitrogen at all, in fact, it's REALLY dangerous to be working with nitrogen! With LASER you only need to use standard argon or helium with CO2 being the most used gas for laser welding. Just to be clear, there are much cheaper Chinese LASER welders that come with wire feeders already on the market that are VERY affordable, and when compared to a TIG welder are 4 times faster (up to 4.6 times in fact). They also can clean the weld up with the LASER afterwards, as well as be used to cut metal much like a plasma cutter, but even cleaner. We've all seen LASER cut metals by now. By the way, India are also manufacturing LASER welders with MANY manufacturers. They also use the process heavily in their industry. This is not a niche welding process, but rather the future of welding manufacturing processes. It is not "new" at all, and it taking over in a big way already. All that said, the MIG welder is still king for general manufacturing when it comes to manual welding of mild steel. Not to mention the millions of robot welders that are already in use that populate factories all over the world. These welders have very long lives and are reused in new ventures regularly.
شكرآ على ما تقدم من نصائح والمعلومات في مجال التلحيم 👍🇩🇿
Excellent and beautiful work, thank you very much, my dear brother from Egypt, I encourage you ❤
레이저용접기는 끝이 < 이런 모양으로 벌어져있는데요. 필렛용접을 안쪽이 아닌 바깥쪽에서 해야 할때도 용접이 가능한가요? 기계 케이스 공장인데 내부는 용접기가 안들어갈 만큼 입구가 좁은 케이스가 많아 바깥쪽에서 용접 후 사상작업으로 제품을 만들고 있습니다. 지금은 티그용접기로 중간 중간 포인트들을 찍어가면서 용접하고 있는데 레이저용접기로 하면 어떻게 되는지 궁금하네요
미래의 용접을 보는것 같습니다
오늘도 좋은 영상 감사합니다^^~
Awesome video. Only thing I would have liked to see more of is the difference in penatration
Me too would like to if it can make x-ray quality welds.
From the bend you could say tig was better
Excelente tutorial maestro, el láser es otro nivel, es como una evolución de la soldadura TIG, más rápida y limpia, gracias por compartir sus conocimientos y experiencias, un saludo cordial y por supuesto un gran like desde Narón (Galicia)👍🤓
si, pero no tiene la penetracion de la tig. para soldaduras que requieran torciones y fuerzas no sirve
@@chochics Cada proceso de soldadura, es para lo que es, más apropiado para unos trabajos y menos para otros.👍
I have welded mig, tig and arc for years and usually with those 3 you can get the weld speed and penatration, but these new welders seem to look like a nice weld and apparently they are fast and efficient but I have been told that the flash from these machines can be very dangerous to other workers if you don't have a well sealed welding area.?.
Pretty much, you just set up a screen around your welding area and tell everyone to bugger off whilst you're working
Its still a laser, and a very high powered one, essentially.
And while looking directly into a regular welding arc is unhealthy over time, a high powered laset can essentially blind you pretty quickly.
I dont know the absolute specifics here but, based on my knowledge of industrial lasers and their safety, this would be the main issue.
거의 1티이하의 제품용접할떄쓰임,,, 3티제품은 비교대상이 아님,,, 작업속도 10배차이난다고 보면됨,, 후처리 할작업도 없고, 열로인한 제품이훼손또한 거의 발생하지 않음,, 그리고 한가지더 고기능의 용접사가 해야할일을 초보 아주머니도 할수있음,,,
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I'm wrong my friend, this is not like riding a bike, it's not because of an extremely easy machine that a novice will do something like a pro, soldering is not just melting and melting the material you have to know so that there is no damage or even a solder breakage, you are totally wrong in your speech
Co2용접 배우고있는 초보입니다 레이저용접이 1티 이하만 가능하다는 건가요?
@@지지-v9r 금속의 물리적인 변형없이 접합이 가능한 기기중, 레이저용접기는 1티이하의 얇은 금속의 접합작업에 특출나다는걸 말한겁니다,, 레이저용접기 역시 두꺼운 금속 용접도 가능하지만 얇은금속작업시 급격희 효율이 떨어진다는걸 말한겁니다
@@양봉업자-r7k 친절한 설명 감사합니다! 기회된다면 레이저 용접도 해보면서 차이점을 느껴보고싶네요ㅎㅎ
Muy buenos tus videos 👌👌👌 excelente los que nos enseña con tus contenidos _saludos desde Argentina
Лазерная сварка это космос ! И она так же не доступна для простых смертных 😃
На алиэкспрессе от $1400 продают лазерные сварки
братан найди мне заказ на пару лет по ценам аргона, я думаю что у тебя появится этот аппарат...
@@TheWinwin4all на авито 150к руб
Лазерная сварка очень специфическая технология. Основной недостаток - нагрев только поверхности и очень низкое КПД лазера. По этому варят лишь тонкие детали. А в космосе варят электронным лучом. (Как кстати и поворотный узел крыла у ТУ160)
@@ikuznyetsov Специфическая ? Да ! И у каждой специфики есть свои предпочтения. Неоспоримые достоинства лазерной сварки это скорость, отсутствие термической деформации в зоне сварки, что в общем то является неоспоримым преимуществом по сравнению с другими видами сварки в автомобильной промышленности при сварке кузовных элементов.
Если бы на сервисных центрах и СТО при проведении ремонтно-сварочных работ применяли именно этот вид сварки то кузова в местах сварки долго бы не подвергались воздействию коррозии (имхо).
Хорошо.
С идеальной подгонкой детали лазер великолепен.
А как он варит зазор?
Допустим 1-4мм.🤔
Na tig tbm dá para adiantar, dependendo do que irá soldar é só aumentar a energia de soldagem e ter mais velocidade de trabalho.
Também achei... até empenou a peça por solda incorreta. tig é top e laser é muito cara e "tem horas uso que vence" emite RX perigo!
Tem outro ponto importante: penetração da solda nos materiais e sua resistência final. Só reparar os cordões aos 13:52 da solda a laser e 13:56 da solda TIG. E pelo que notei, posso está enganado, a solda TIG está de forma mais resistente, tem penetração no metal e com isso uma resistência bem maior. Essa laser pode até sem útil para chapas bem fina, mas quando se trata de solda com muita resistência, TIG, MIG-MAG, eletrodo revestido e arco submerso são imbatíveis. Trabalhei um bom tempo numa empresa como soldador por arco submerso. Corimpex a máquina que operava.
Thank You Nice Sharing, Vedio Amazing Welding MIG AND LASER 👍🏾🇮🇩
Сваривание в глубоких карманах и в труднодоступных местах в студию!!
Да хотя бы трубку показали как варит. Диаметра 18-22 мм, например.
Друзья, у каждого вида сварки есть свои плюсы и минусы, так что лазер не везде прокатит... но тенденция к замещению "сварки орудий каменного века" явно прослеживается...Хочется поблагодарить автора подобного материала и далее выкладывать ролики аналитического сравнения видов сварочных работ....
朋友们，每种焊接都有其优点和缺点，因此激光并非无处不在......但取代“石器时代工具焊接”的趋势是显而易见的......我要感谢这种材料的作者并继续上传焊接类型分析比较的视频......
Friends, each type of welding has its pros and cons, so the laser will not work everywhere ... but the trend towards replacing "welding of Stone Age tools" is clearly visible ... I would like to thank the author of such material and continue to upload videos of an analytical comparison of types of welding ....
أصدقائي ، كل نوع من أنواع اللحام له إيجابياته وسلبياته ، لذلك لن يعمل الليزر في كل مكان ... لكن الاتجاه نحو استبدال "لحام أدوات العصر الحجري" واضح للعيان ... أود أن أشكر مؤلف هذه المواد والاستمرار في تحميل مقاطع فيديو لمقارنة تحليلية لأنواع اللحام ....
Amis, chaque type de soudage a ses avantages et ses inconvénients, donc le laser ne fonctionnera pas partout ... mais la tendance à remplacer le "soudage des outils de l'âge de pierre" est clairement visible ... Je voudrais remercier l'auteur d'un tel matériel et continuez à télécharger des vidéos d'une comparaison analytique des types de soudage ....
חברים, לכל סוג ריתוך יש את היתרונות והחסרונות שלו, כך שהלייזר לא יעבוד בכל מקום... אבל המגמה של החלפת "ריתוך כלים מתקופת האבן" ניכרת היטב... אני רוצה להודות למחבר של חומר כזה ולהמשיך להעלות סרטונים של השוואה אנליטית של סוגי ריתוך....
Super comparatif et magnifique soudure au laser
Je suis presque certain que cette machine laser doit être très couteuse.
Merci
Au delà de 10000 en général c'est ça le problème ,c'est très chère !!!
Greetings to China from San Luis Potosí Mexico excellent machines 👍👍👍👍❤️
Спасибо за видеоуроки вы настоящий учитель🙏🙏🙏
Excelente contenido maravillosa explicación muchísimas gracias por compartir tu conocimiento y tus vídeos saludos desde Venezuela Maracaibo. 👍
Жаль, что в Беларуси о лазерной сварке пока можно только мечтать. Спасибо за обзор!
p.s. не знал, что лазерная сварка может так же варить с присадкой...
это можешь мечтать только Ты, а не Беларусь. В промышленности лазерная сварка по-прежнему уступает полуавтоматам в большинстве стран мира ...
@@XaLi_GaLi я немного вам поясню.
Иногда лучше молчать и казаться идиотом, чем заговорить и развеять сомнения.
Мне очень жаль, что вы из слов которые я написал выше извлекаете только звуки а не смысл слов и предложений.
Смысл слов (мечтать в Беларуси) и (мечтать Беларуси) о лазерной сварке отличается. Обратите на это внимание. Прежде чем писать комментарии.
А обращение на "Ты" к незнакомому оппоненту говорит о "пропавшем" морально-этическим" вашем воспитании...
@@andrusentjau4348 , милейший, смею заверить, что обращение на "Ты" с заглавной буквы вызывает меньше душевных содроганий, чем на "вы" со строчной. Это так, к размышлению. Адказваць не трэба, гэта лішняе. Уж луше Вам прочесть второе предложение Вашего же ответа :-)
@@andrusentjau4348 , и на посошок:
Мечтал в РБ Aндрэй о сварке,
Лічыў капейку, слёзы ліў.
Весьма занудливым, но ярким
Был буквоедом, граммафил ... 😁
@@XaLi_GaLi А ты уверен, что "ты" пишется с большой буквы ?!
excelente video saludos desde Colombia
😎👉🏼You sir, are truly a😎👏👏👏👏 "craftsman above craftsmen👏👏👏👏"😎, 👌awesome to watch👀 and 👉🏼beautiful results👈🏼.....you have👏👏 👌👍🏼my utmost respect 👍🏼👌👏👏from this old kiwi......be blessed 🙏🙏🙏🙏
La comparativa no está mal pero a mi parecer falta un parámetro esencial LA PENETRACION.
Cuánto penetra la soldadura láser? Porque dependiendo de este parámetro este tipo de soldadura solo vale para espesores delgados en el cual la soldadura no va a llevar una gran responsabilidad. No olvidemos que uno de los puntos fuertes del TIG es la penetracion que tiene aparte de muchos otros.
Спасибо за ознакомление, лазерная сварка это класс !
Ресурс диода интересен, при его-то цене.
Thank you from Brazil
Хорошая сварка, швы идеальные, скорость сварки выше чем у TIG, только одни преимущества! Но есть один недостаток.... Стоит эта сварка как квартира в центре Москвы...
150к на авито.
레이저 용접기에 대한 궁금증이 많습니다. 이렇게 소개해 주시는점 감사합니다.
대단합니다 용접실력이 놀랍네요
역시 레이저용접 한 대 가지고 다닐까요,,,,,
Just i love it the tig welding 😍😍😍😍🤩🤩
I also like tig
I really would like to know how's the penetration in laser welding compared to Tig welding. I work stainless steel mostly AISI 304 and 316, I work for pharmaceutical and alimentary, so for me full penetration welding is a daily thing. Can I perform a full penetration weld with the laser? Can I get a good weld on the outside protected by Argon? If it's possible, can I perform a full penetration welding with the same level of "non-deformation" saw in the video, due to the cold precess?
Thank u in advance whoever can answer me, I really would like to know, I love improving my workshop and make my employees's lives better.
One important key point is that fiber laser welder is capable of adjusting the output power, of which affecting the laser beam energy thus giving a different penetration on different materials. At present, the most common handheld laser welder is able to coupled with 3kW laser power, with a max penetration at 7-8mm on mild steel materials, 6-7mm on stainless steel. Copper, aluminum or brass are hard materials to be welded by laser due to its high reflection rate on laser wavelength. However, laser technology continues to improve, we will soon have a powerful handheld laser welder which can have much deeper penetration
Thank you for sharing a very good video comparing tig and laser welding
Сварка аргоном идёт явно с перегревом и недостатком газа. При правильных режимах сварки результаты должны быть одинаковыми. При это оборудование для лазерной сварки очень дорогое и громоздкое. Видео сделано потрясающе.
Thank you so much master😊😊😊
Great video 👍
Excelente demostración maestro cuánto es el.costos de la máquina de láser sebe. Qes una chulada de máquina
muchas gracias... muy buen trabajo
How is it for removing wrinkles around my eyes or on cataracts ?
非常謝謝大師級的教導與分享，從中學到非常多有用的知識，能夠在職場上更加活躍。關於leaser 方面的焊接，希望能夠繼續有新的影片❤再次謝謝您的影片！👍
شحل تمن ديله
Dimana boleh beli berapa harga
почему не показали шов в разрезе... то что Tig проварил я не сомневаюсь, а проварил ли лазер?
Интересное сравнение получилось. Да у сварки лазером есть преимущества и в скорости и в меньшем потреблении тепла, что может сказаться на качестве определённых сварочных работ. Спасибо за вашу работу. 👍
Dura
в стационарных условиях прокатит,а ккак с таким огромным пистолетом на монтаже работать?Особенно между труб подлазить
Лазерная сварка постепенно заменит рынок аргонно-дуговой сварки
А как же глубина провара? Заметили, как скромно не показали обратную сторону шва? Лазер красиво прилепил детали, ТИГ намертво сварил.
@@ikuznyetsov Главное, что бы год гарантии выхаживало изделие :-)
Как всегда интересно смотреть ваши ролики 👍🤝
박판이라 큰의미는 없겠지만 절단면 용입 상태를 볼 수 있으면 좋았을것 같은데 아쉽네요.
항상 좋은 영상 감사합니다.
Máy này không thể che vào đâu được. Trên cả tuyệt vời luôn. Như giá cả thế nào. Bạn cho mình hỏi xíu nhé. Cảm ơn bạn
Интересно посмотреть на результаты тестов сварных швов, на разрыв, глубину провара.
он тигом перегрел шов, с нарушением сварочных норм и правил, по сути это брак
@@akaMamKa Диванный эксперт в деле) ТИГом он хоть проварил, а этой шляпой только вид сделал.
@Женя Панкратов дак ещё и варит в тепличных условиях, в стык углом назад он не может видеть где шов ............
Шов цветной, не черный значит не перегрел и ничего не нарушил
Your presentation is impressive, thanks for sharing
Merci beaucoup Mr, très super
Vs êtes très sympa
Je suis toujours vos cupules
Спасибо !
Excellent machine welds quickly and does not need too much heat . saludos a china desde San Luis Potosí México 👍👍👍👍
Great welding comparison, just as wonderful as our machines
7:44But what about the depth and strength of the weld?
What to do after bending?
Замечательный способ но это для тонкого материала и в мастерской
Уже видел на кузове старай машины лазерной багажник подваривали. Ну очень эффектно было.
와아~!! 레이저 용접기가 굉장히 혁신적이네요!! 레이저 용접기 (Laser Welder) 한국산 (Made in Korea) 맞나요?
Can this laser welding be used for heavy steel construction, such as IWF welding. What is the strength factor? give examples of welding in IWF 600 profile steel
Ótima demonstração não tem igual muito precisa ótima máquina de solda a laser . Pergunta já tem está máquina no Brasil .???
tem, mas custa 188 mil. corta a plasma, solda e faz limpeza com laser. dificil é ver uma fora de empresas grandes.
Which of these welding equipment can I use, and not have problems with burning my eyes?
Muy buena demostración
would be nice a link on where to buy this laser welder in particular.....
Thanks for comparation. As everytime very good and useful video. Good luck.
Thanks great video straight to the point.
사용된 레이져 용접기 가격이 얼마인가요?
Nice video thanks for sharing!!! The point is that all these laser welding machines are heavy and very expensive for hobbyists so it is not possible to buy everybody only the professionals....
Have good time every time!!!
Best regards from Hellas (Greece)
3 minutes in I was pretty sure this is an ad for the laser welding machine. Shows back side of weld for 3 seconds, you can see how little the laser penetrates. I still want one, there are a lot of potential uses for it.
Request dong pengelasan plat stenlis 3 mm. Posisi 2G dan 3G tembusan..
I've only learned about this form of welding recently and I'm convinced this is the future of welding in manufacturing settings.
For small scale stuff and outdoors I think MIG and TIG are still the kings due to the safety requirements of this type of welding, you can't exactly setup a tent everywhere you want to weld.
But if your producing stuff in a workshop I don't see why one of these wouldn't be perfect, just throw up a few barriers in a corner somewhere and you're good.
im happy to have a laser welding,cause it is very easy to use and clean surface,,thanks
Buena comparativa amigo taca taca
How would you compare the strength of both? Like which would hold most weight
Thank you for this excellent welding comparison.
Muito Bom!
Parabéns!
Good job, for me both welders are really good
Laser has a much sharper focus, this concentrates heat. GTAW power supply is constant current, meaning variable voltage since arc length dictates voltage. Long arc means higher voltage which means more heat over larger area.
Laser will not do well in chrome moly, the rapid cooling will make a brittle heat affected zone.
un bon travail 👍
Спасибо за отличные видео примеры!👌👏👏👏
Отличные примеры? А почему не показали обратную сторону шва? Побоялись показать, что глубина провара 0,1мм!
@@ikuznyetsov да! Сверху налепили, а если тепла в стыке не,так как он в глубине состыкуется?. Наверно никак.
thanks for tutorial welding laser good
A soldagem tig exige muito mais abilidade do soldador chega a ser um trabalho artesanal de costurar o metal. Ja a doldagem lazer parece ser facil e limpa qualquer um pode fazer. Nao creio que uma va substituir a outra pois ha espaço para as duas.
what shielding gas are you using with the laser welder ?