That shifter actually makes 3-point turns nice and easy, making it easy to put it in reverse (and not accidentally putting the car in park.) So yes it's weird but at least there's this one advantage ;-)
Just for record, my 2020 CX-9 has hands free lift gate. Also, personally, I prefer the center knob for the infotainment. It keeps my from smudging my screen and. It gets pretty easy to use. My main complaint on my CX-9 is that the infotainment is slow to start. The CX-90 seems to have fixed a lot of my minor complaints. Very nice review.
Great camerawork and good back-n-forth commentary. I really like the PHEV setup, but Mazda pushed me towards the Turbo S with their content structure.....i.e. my wife wanted the Tan Napa leather interior as well as the exterior moldings in body color (BOTH of those 'wants' required us to purchase a Turbo S Prem Plus). IF this PHEV CX-90 had 38,39,or 40 miles of Elec-only range, I would have ignored her and bought this PHEV! But at 28 miles range, she would have used the gas engine every day on her 18mile one-way commute (36mile round trip). I SO wanted her to be able to use elec only 5 days a week and recharge at home every night...close, Mazda, very close. I am a very happy owner of a '24 Turbo S PP.
How is the 8 speed transmission Otis ? Any updates? Normally I'm hesitant on first year cars but I'm sold on cx70 assuming it's not too long. My very first RWD car and it's SUV. Super excited!
@@kevtn8 .....I predict you will love Mazda's new 8-spd transmission. Both in normal and sport I have had no issues at all. It is a well-geared, sporty transmission. Positive shifts into 2nd and 3rd with near-imperceptible shifts above that. GREAT gas mileage. Sadly, if you are waiting for a CX-70, you will have to wait a little longer since the -70 is delayed til mid-2024. However I saw in person a Japan market CX-60 last month on the streets of Yokohama and it was strikingly good looking. My CX-90 drives great and the top-trim interiors, although expensive, really elevate the ownership experience. Good luck with your purchase.
@@OtisSpringerpilot Thanks Otis. Your experience and feedback is great news for all Mazda fans who have been waiting for the Cx70. I just bought '23 Cx5 turbo so I may wait for the second model year of Cx70 so the delay doesn't really bother me at all. Congratulations again and enjoy your Cx90.
You brothers are killing it with the content! 3-4 reviews a week! NICE! Mazda just killed it with the CX-90. They priced it well against the available competition. The plug-in hybrid seems fully-baked and doesn't present a ton of sacrifices. The interior is very plush(though it is a blunder on why they don't offer the full-tilt luxury of the Turbo S PP on the plug-in). It is content laden. And it looks good. As for the competition, don't forget about the Lincoln Aviator GT, as well as the JGC 4Xe.
Great review as usual. I love Mazdas. They are usually a great bargain in terms of a luxurious experience and but not a high price relative to other brands. Wish the taillights totally were lit. It looks like rear taillight portion on the tailgate doesn't actually light up. Not a deal breaker for sure, but seems a bit fake.
Love your reviews! FYI, you guys keep saying that a hands-free power liftgate is new to the Mazda lineup, or Mazda has not had it before the CX-90, but my 2020 CX-9 Grand Touring has it.
I just realized that when you did your acceleration test you were not in the sport mode. TRUST ME, I just picked my CX90 PHEV today, the sports mode makes a BIG difference!!! I believe you would have had a higher smile meter had you put it in sport mode.
Something that I've seen in every review of the CX-90 is the apparent lack of room to put your feet if you're sitting in the 3rd row (see 12:43.) It seems that, for whatever reason, there's not enough room to put your toes under the 2nd row seats. Seems odd.
went and drove the I-6 liked it ..... rear wheel drive is so much better than fwd , just wish this size had 2row for us who have no need, want or will ever use a 3rd row , save some added wt and lil under floor storage Locker where the 3rd row seat was... to stash camera's , drones and goodies out if sight always a good review
What the computer says for EV range is NOT what you will get. Reviewers that actually drove the CX-90 in EV only mode got 25 miles of range. The CX-90 is rated at 25 mpg in combined driving so charging will only save you 1 gallon of gas. Some people do not consider this but electricity is not free and in my area it cost the same to charge that battery as the cost for one gallon of gasoline so why pay $4,000 for a PHEV option that does not save you money? Take your last electric bill(tax and fees included) and divide the cost by the Kwh used. Then multiple 16 Kwh by your calculated electric rate. Compare you cost to charge the battery to the cost of 1 gallon of regular gas. Then figure out how many years it will take to break even on that $4,000 PHEV extra cost
@Avi Glickman No actually NO reviewer got it or presented that simple fact that the PHEV will take years if ever to break even on the PHEV option cost. Go back to corporate Mazda and tell them to pay me off like they did every reviewer
Is there a switch or menu option to turn off the fake engine noise? Please please say yes! I love this new Mazda and it would be a plus to squelch that dumb fake engine noise.
Great review guys, how do you comoare this with inline 6 turbo S? Is there a big difference in deiving and power between phev and I6? Which one do you suggest?
Do you guys have any info on if the CX 70 will be an actual different body or will it be a 2 row seat CX 90? Difficult to find info on it. I’m hoping it’ll be the Anerican version of the current CX 60 available overseas.
It'd be awesome if Mazda puts this drivetraion into the upcoming CX-70, or even better, a re-imagined Mazda 6 sedan. Bonus points if they saw fit to making a new Mazda 6 Estate (wagon). There's probably a better chance of pigs taking flight, but a guy can dream, right?
Besides the Turbo S feeling a little faster than the PHEV, any other notable differences in how they drive? I understand the PHEV is about 500 pounds heavier.
Nothing substantial. Still handles nicely for a big SUV. We didn't sample one with smaller wheels, but that would likely have a positive impact on the ride
After watching the review and thinking that Single charge only Saves 1 gallon of fuel. - How does this drive system actually work? The first 25 miles run on battery then ICE kicks in?? - How long does battery last if you drive in normal mode??. - is my understanding correct that after driving more than 25 miles, I would need to plug in to recharge the battery?
Is that mean CX-90 will have 369 lb ft torque all the time regardless of battery status?. I guess it turns into hybrid mode as ICE charges the battery??
Any EV folks out there? Bottom line - at a "charging station"- how much would it cost to fully charge this car, one time? I Googled but I keep getting KW this, kw/h that..... I was hoping to know the actual dollar amount for one charge. Thanks
You do realize that in EV mode you are "burning" electrons and electricity is not free. 25 miles of EV range on 16 Kwh of battery capacity or 25 miles (EPA) on one gallon of gas combined driving. So, the most you can save in EV mode is one gallon of gas. My electric rate (including tax and fees is 0.20 per Kwh or $3.20 to charge that battery. Just filled up at Costco at $3.05 per gallon. For me it would be cheaper to run in hybrid mode than EV.
Personally 26 miles it’s not enough range for my daily commute. If it had a Federal tax credit then maybe it’s worth a consideration. I still think the I-6 engine is the way to go but to each their own.
Yeah I wish they would have just added the PHEV to the de-tuned inline-6 version and made it their top end model. The smooth I-6 is a good match for electric motor. Also does need a slightly larger battery. 30miles of real-world range is minimum.
Mazda needs another 44 trim levels for their sport, off-road, full ev lines. That seatbelt chime is a deal breaker for me. 3 chimes would've been fine but like what? 8? Seriously Mazda? Why isn't the shifter section in full not center with the main console? It's off centered to the left a little. No 8 seats on the higher trims is a mistake. I do give them props for that engine tho.
17:32 - unless your commute includes dropping your kids off, you shouldn't be using this as a daily driver with just one person in it. And by the way, has the EPA released MPG figures yet, including numbers for after the battery is exhausted? That acceleration starting at 18:38 looked pretty leisurely, but I suppose it's adequate as long as you're not in a giant hurry. P.S. I post separate comments for each topic to help the RUclips algorithm, which I have heard factors in the number of comments into how wide the video is distributed.
lol, I see plenty of pick up trucks that look like they have never carried cargo. This is ‘murica. People love their big trucks and SUV’s. I drive a small hatchback that is still big enough for a surfboard or bike.
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Got a cx90 commercial immediately 😂
The best kind to have 😂
That shifter actually makes 3-point turns nice and easy, making it easy to put it in reverse (and not accidentally putting the car in park.) So yes it's weird but at least there's this one advantage ;-)
Just for record, my 2020 CX-9 has hands free lift gate. Also, personally, I prefer the center knob for the infotainment. It keeps my from smudging my screen and. It gets pretty easy to use. My main complaint on my CX-9 is that the infotainment is slow to start. The CX-90 seems to have fixed a lot of my minor complaints. Very nice review.
Great camerawork and good back-n-forth commentary. I really like the PHEV setup, but Mazda pushed me towards the Turbo S with their content structure.....i.e. my wife wanted the Tan Napa leather interior as well as the exterior moldings in body color (BOTH of those 'wants' required us to purchase a Turbo S Prem Plus). IF this PHEV CX-90 had 38,39,or 40 miles of Elec-only range, I would have ignored her and bought this PHEV! But at 28 miles range, she would have used the gas engine every day on her 18mile one-way commute (36mile round trip). I SO wanted her to be able to use elec only 5 days a week and recharge at home every night...close, Mazda, very close. I am a very happy owner of a '24 Turbo S PP.
Thanks! Congrats on your new fully-loaded CX-90!
How is the 8 speed transmission Otis ? Any updates? Normally I'm hesitant on first year cars but I'm sold on cx70 assuming it's not too long. My very first RWD car and it's SUV. Super excited!
@@kevtn8 .....I predict you will love Mazda's new 8-spd transmission. Both in normal and sport I have had no issues at all. It is a well-geared, sporty transmission. Positive shifts into 2nd and 3rd with near-imperceptible shifts above that. GREAT gas mileage. Sadly, if you are waiting for a CX-70, you will have to wait a little longer since the -70 is delayed til mid-2024. However I saw in person a Japan market CX-60 last month on the streets of Yokohama and it was strikingly good looking. My CX-90 drives great and the top-trim interiors, although expensive, really elevate the ownership experience. Good luck with your purchase.
@@OtisSpringerpilot Thanks Otis. Your experience and feedback is great news for all Mazda fans who have been waiting for the Cx70. I just bought '23 Cx5 turbo so I may wait for the second model year of Cx70 so the delay doesn't really bother me at all. Congratulations again and enjoy your Cx90.
You brothers are killing it with the content! 3-4 reviews a week! NICE!
Mazda just killed it with the CX-90. They priced it well against the available competition. The plug-in hybrid seems fully-baked and doesn't present a ton of sacrifices. The interior is very plush(though it is a blunder on why they don't offer the full-tilt luxury of the Turbo S PP on the plug-in). It is content laden. And it looks good.
As for the competition, don't forget about the Lincoln Aviator GT, as well as the JGC 4Xe.
Great review as usual. I love Mazdas. They are usually a great bargain in terms of a luxurious experience and but not a high price relative to other brands. Wish the taillights totally were lit. It looks like rear taillight portion on the tailgate doesn't actually light up. Not a deal breaker for sure, but seems a bit fake.
We have a cx-9 gt 2021, and it has the hands-free trunk open by waving your foot :)
GREAT channel guys - really enjoy your dialog back and forth which makes the discussions very interesting
Thanks so much!
Love your reviews! FYI, you guys keep saying that a hands-free power liftgate is new to the Mazda lineup, or Mazda has not had it before the CX-90, but my 2020 CX-9 Grand Touring has it.
Thanks! Yes, we did forget about that. I think we were thinking of CX-5
I just realized that when you did your acceleration test you were not in the sport mode. TRUST ME, I just picked my CX90 PHEV today, the sports mode makes a BIG difference!!! I believe you would have had a higher smile meter had you put it in sport mode.
We will be getting a week long loan in Kentucky soon so we will test that out!
Something that I've seen in every review of the CX-90 is the apparent lack of room to put your feet if you're sitting in the 3rd row (see 12:43.) It seems that, for whatever reason, there's not enough room to put your toes under the 2nd row seats. Seems odd.
went and drove the I-6 liked it ..... rear wheel drive is so much better than fwd , just wish this size had 2row for us who have no need, want or will ever use a 3rd row , save some added wt and lil under floor storage Locker where the 3rd row seat was... to stash camera's , drones and goodies out if sight always a good review
What the computer says for EV range is NOT what you will get. Reviewers that actually drove the CX-90 in EV only mode got 25 miles of range. The CX-90 is rated at 25 mpg in combined driving so charging will only save you 1 gallon of gas.
Some people do not consider this but electricity is not free and in my area it cost the same to charge that battery as the cost for one gallon of gasoline so why pay $4,000 for a PHEV option that does not save you money?
Take your last electric bill(tax and fees included) and divide the cost by the Kwh used. Then multiple 16 Kwh by your calculated electric rate. Compare you cost to charge the battery to the cost of 1 gallon of regular gas. Then figure out how many years it will take to break even on that $4,000 PHEV extra cost
@Avi Glickman No actually NO reviewer got it or presented that simple fact that the PHEV will take years if ever to break even on the PHEV option cost.
Go back to corporate Mazda and tell them to pay me off like they did every reviewer
Is there a switch or menu option to turn off the fake engine noise? Please please say yes! I love this new Mazda and it would be a plus to squelch that dumb fake engine noise.
Not that we're aware of... But we will check thoroughly when we have this model to test out for an entire week in July!
Number one the engine is NOT fake as second there is no way to shut off the engine noise since it is piped in via a sound tube off the intake.
@@thejmcGarage So it's not coming in through the stereo as well? Interesting. Thanks.
@@jsfbay1 only on the turbo 6 it comes through the car speakers, but on the PHEV the sound is only sourced via the intake sound tube
@@thejmcGarage Thank you.
With the touchscreen....does that mean you need a smartphone - to do NAV? Thanks
It still has a built in navigation system but it's not nearly as sophisticated as Google Maps built into your phone
Mazda is currently as of October 2023 giving a $7500 rebate (to use as a down payment ) on the CX-90 PHEV!
Leases only. We took the bait…
What about the Sorento Phev when compared to this PHEV? Sorento got 32+ miles. I'd appreciate your feedback. Thanks
Nice looks
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Great review guys, how do you comoare this with inline 6 turbo S? Is there a big difference in deiving and power between phev and I6? Which one do you suggest?
Very good video.
Thanks!
Can this vehicle be updated over the air (OTA)? That would be a real miss to not include this on a brand new vehicle...
Can you get by with regular gas instead of the vastly more expensive premium?
Do you guys have any info on if the CX 70 will be an actual different body or will it be a 2 row seat CX 90? Difficult to find info on it. I’m hoping it’ll be the Anerican version of the current CX 60 available overseas.
Mazda hasn't told us anything official yet but we should find out about it soon
It'd be awesome if Mazda puts this drivetraion into the upcoming CX-70, or even better, a re-imagined Mazda 6 sedan. Bonus points if they saw fit to making a new Mazda 6 Estate (wagon). There's probably a better chance of pigs taking flight, but a guy can dream, right?
Perhaps my monitor isn't calibrated, but the white interior looks like a dark gray (5:49)
📽️ CX 90 vs Lexus TX 350 or Toyota GH?
Does the new shifter not have any manual shifting anymore? I'm guessing it's paddles only for manual shifting? Bummer.
I really like the plugin hybrid trim level, but they all with full options or fully loaded 😢
Excellent
do driver seat memory settings also memorize side mirror settings?
Yes
It looks great!!!
So the PHEV doesn't come as an 8 seater?
Actually, the entry level will seat 8. The preferred and preferred have 2nd row captain seating standard.
Preferred and preferred+, should say.
@@ipla88keys that's good to know, thanks. Still don't get why bigger families can't have premium trims because most manufacturers cut down seats.
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Hahaha thanks
Besides the Turbo S feeling a little faster than the PHEV, any other notable differences in how they drive? I understand the PHEV is about 500 pounds heavier.
Nothing substantial. Still handles nicely for a big SUV. We didn't sample one with smaller wheels, but that would likely have a positive impact on the ride
After watching the review and thinking that Single charge only Saves 1 gallon of fuel.
- How does this drive system actually work? The first 25 miles run on battery then ICE kicks in??
- How long does battery last if you drive in normal mode??.
- is my understanding correct that after driving more than 25 miles, I would need to plug in to recharge the battery?
In about 3 weeks we will have one to test out at home for 7-days. Hopefully we can answer some of those questions then so stay tuned!
What happens to the power and torque when the EV mileage is drained out and the car runs on gas only mode? Do we still get 323 hp and 369 lb ft?
Yes because Mazda does not allow the battery to totally drain down to zero
I think 10% you cannot use EV mode anymore
Actually it's 20% but it's adjustable through the infotainment screen
Is that mean CX-90 will have 369 lb ft torque all the time regardless of battery status?. I guess it turns into hybrid mode as ICE charges the battery??
@@geosch9956 correct on all your points.
Any EV folks out there? Bottom line - at a "charging station"- how much would it cost to fully charge this car, one time? I Googled but I keep getting KW this, kw/h that..... I was hoping to know the actual dollar amount for one charge. Thanks
Nice
It really ticks me off that Mazda didn't put 4-way lumbar on at least the driver's seat! They want to be premium? Then include premium features!!!
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This is the only Mazda PHEV SUV to drive.
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I like this model CX 90 but the chime sound when start the engine…8 times…that’s kinda annoying…I think 3-4 times should be enough…
Put seatbelt on and it stops after 3 chime
6 chimes should be the standard maximum! 8 times is indeed too much and annoying!
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you should accelerate in sport!
I keep telling them on other vids too, but they don't lissen 😀
1st world problem: But do you have to hear that seat belt chime every time you start the car, and you haven't even had a chance to put on the belt???
I forgot there names but the one in blue has a hearing aid. Never knew
I like this car 👍🏿
Great
You do realize that in EV mode you are "burning" electrons and electricity is not free. 25 miles of EV range on 16 Kwh of battery capacity or 25 miles (EPA) on one gallon of gas combined driving. So, the most you can save in EV mode is one gallon of gas. My electric rate (including tax and fees is 0.20 per Kwh or $3.20 to charge that battery. Just filled up at Costco at $3.05 per gallon. For me it would be cheaper to run in hybrid mode than EV.
Personally 26 miles it’s not enough range for my daily commute. If it had a Federal tax credit then maybe it’s worth a consideration. I still think the I-6 engine is the way to go but to each their own.
Yeah I wish they would have just added the PHEV to the de-tuned inline-6 version and made it their top end model. The smooth I-6 is a good match for electric motor. Also does need a slightly larger battery. 30miles of real-world range is minimum.
toyota highlander is 55.9, please correct
The lack of exhaust pipes is a deal breaker for me
Your loss I guess.
You can’t afford one anyway Bucky
That’s a silly reason not to buy a vehicle
Wow
Mazda needs another 44 trim levels for their sport, off-road, full ev lines.
That seatbelt chime is a deal breaker for me. 3 chimes would've been fine but like what? 8? Seriously Mazda? Why isn't the shifter section in full not center with the main console? It's off centered to the left a little. No 8 seats on the higher trims is a mistake. I do give them props for that engine tho.
Don't have to deal with the seat belt chime if you buckle before you start the vehicle
17:32 - unless your commute includes dropping your kids off, you shouldn't be using this as a daily driver with just one person in it. And by the way, has the EPA released MPG figures yet, including numbers for after the battery is exhausted? That acceleration starting at 18:38 looked pretty leisurely, but I suppose it's adequate as long as you're not in a giant hurry.
P.S. I post separate comments for each topic to help the RUclips algorithm, which I have heard factors in the number of comments into how wide the video is distributed.
Still not finding any fuel economy numbers on the EPAs website for the PHEV yet. Thanks, that probably helps!
I would never carpool with people. I will always drive by myself. And yes, I would be getting an oversized suv just because
lol, I see plenty of pick up trucks that look like they have never carried cargo. This is ‘murica. People love their big trucks and SUV’s. I drive a small hatchback that is still big enough for a surfboard or bike.
@@kevinW826 Hey, I drive a 22 year-old Suburban by myself, so, I was just being green for a moment 🙂
@@jsfbay1 is your suburban green?
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I am not happy with the mpg. Rather go for Toyota with cheap cabin but save a lot of gas.
You can’t afford anyway
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