I like both the Macan and the Evoque, but it's not exactly fair to compare a $72,000(USD) twin turbo 6cyl with a base $41,000(USD) single turbo inline 4 engine... I think it would be more fair to compare the Range Rover Sport with the Macan, considering they're in the same price range and both have a twin turbo V6 Diesel engine...
Comparing a V8 to a turbo'd V6 pushing similar specs is fair. Comparing a single-turbo inline 4cyl to a twin-turbo V6 that's pumping out 120hp and some 100ftlb of torque more... There's a bit of a mismatch there.
I think the size issue is a more of a visual and obvious difference. This does not have to resort to the spec. Would you compare a Mercedes S class with a BMW 3 series?
I think he's using the diesel RR too, I drove a brand new lr2 yesterday with the 2.0L 240hp/250tq engine and I actually really liked it, the torque from 2-3k rpm is just awesome and its not that fast but its no slouch, plus the lr2 probably weighs more than the evoque so I would expect it to be faster.
While Macan is superior in tarmac performance, fairly sure Evoque is superior in off-road performance. But only about 1% of buyers would do off-road, while about 5% may do enthusiastic tarmac driving, so the Macan is slightly more relevant. Now, Evoque is prettier than Macan to majority of people, but Porsche badge is probably slightly more desirable than RR badge. So, I guess Macan wins.
***** But if you talk to any Range Rover owner that owns a 2012 or below year and they will tell you about the repairs. Must say the off-roading they did wasn't truly off-roading. I'm a Porsche owner/fan and this seemed a tad biased towards Porsche.
There is just no other way to put it, Porsche simply makes better cars than most. And in the SUV category, I still remember how I thought the Cayenne was ugly when it first came out many moons ago when the X5 was the benchmark. Well, guess what ? The Cayenne not only has since grown on me and has now long surpassed the X5. Even when BMW tasked their M-Division to come out with a top-of-the-range model to hopefully regain the throne, they failed. Porsche didn't even need the Cayenne Turbo S to beat out the X5M, just the normal Turbo even with 50 HP down could already accomplish the task. As for the Macan, it is basically the same thing, but only with a smaller model that's all. Don't get me wrong, the Range Rover Evoque is a very nice car in many ways and as long as you don't compare the two you will be alright. But, once you test-drive the cars side by side, the Evoque just won't stand a chance.
Sorry, but when I watch most of AC's reviews, it's usually about supercars in which I can only dream about. So I have to take the reviewer's word for it. But here is something I do have some experience with. 1st. although I've no doubt the Maccan is everything Steve says it is, have you seen the Top Gear review for the Evoque? Are you seriously telling me the Maccan can do that stuff?? 2nd. Are we ever going to get a review of an SUV in which the reviewer doesn't laugh about the fact that most owners of SUVs aren't going to go off road? Well, I do go off road. A lot. I live in the Mideast and drive mostly on tarmac, but have to drive in sand (of varying degress of firmness), as well as heavy snow on and offroad in winter. The Evoque has serious offroading pedigree which few SUVs can boast. I'm amazed Steve just drove the Porche and LR down a country drive way and still claimed the Porche was better. Didn't even go near any mud. But at the end of all my off roading, I can take the Evoque when I go out at the weekends, and my car's the one everyone likes to be seen getting into when it's time to head back home. The Maccan looks like a watered down Porche, and the Porche design has long since stopped turning heads. I don't doubt the Maccan is the better car for on-road driving (and few cars could match Porche's racing pedigree). But Steve Sutcliffe is a racing driver and seems greatly disappointed when not in a sports car.
Personally I think the Macan 'styling library' has a lot in common with the Opel Kadett's styling library. Sutcliffe, like so many auto journalists, wrote his conclusion before he went to pick up the cars and can't begin to imagine what real Land Rover owners want from their vehicles. Otherwise he'd have demonstrated towing capability. Can you see a Macan with towing gear? My Evoque's got it and makes light work out of towing a trailer with an industrial lawn mower or a back-hoe on it. Don't need to to do it every day, of course, but I can when I want to. Same with off-roading. It's not a Defender but the majority of Evoques will find themselves in places that have never seen a Porsche, nor ever will.
So, if its ride quality is worse and the Porsche still manages to run circles around it...Where's the selling point of the Evoque ? It might look better now ( or out of fashion very soon ), but that wouldn't make me wanna pay the same price as for one of the german competitors, if they can outpeform it on so many levels...
The Evoque really looks stunning though. I'm not gonna buy an SUV for handling. Only biggie for me is the engine... the Macan makes good power and sips fuel. I think that is a more legit selling point, but also one that would make sense for JLR to answer. Competition strengthens the breed.
You cant compare the Evoque to it, the Porsche's engine is 50% larger,how about Landrover sticking a 3 litre Jaguar engine in the Evoque then you will see it take on its bigger brother the Cayenne and running rings around it, like what its cousins in the family do to the German cars I.e. the jaguars and supercharge Range Rovers. What RUclips on them vs their German counterparts
Years later the Porsche hasn't change ,still an ugly 4x4,and no amount of cosmetic surgery is going to change it. When it first arrived in the UK many people thought it was a Hyundai
Ian Nixon Exactly. All this guy was saying is that its faster than the Evoque. OFCOURSE ITS FASTER! It has a much larger engine! But thats not everything in a car. the Evoque is much, much better than that ugly looking shit
I love your video, perfect English, no accent, very calm, and, yes, the Range cannot compare to the Porshe, I agree; more than a year to wait for the last, too bad!
The Evoque and Macan are as different as their parent companies history. Range Rover is a luxurious off roader and the Macan is an off road capable sports car. I would probably choose a Porsche product.
I love Porsches, I understand the Macan is a great car but I'd still go for the Evoque. The reason is a combination of the RR having a certain flair and that I personally find it wrong to buy a Porsche SUV. Oh and I'd get the Evoque with the 2 litre petrol engine.
Buddy, probably the best comment I read. You need adaptive dynamics on it. the stability is incredible.trust me, at one point you will forget your in a compact SUV. Its an absolut pleasure to drive, and indeed is a head turner. I don't ever see this macan being that.
I drive a 911 and usually look down my nose at any SUV, including the Cayenne, but sat in a Macan at the dealer the other day and suddenly thought, hey this is a possibility for me if I ever decide that I've had enough of the 911. There I was cosseted in luxury and quality, and it seemed every inch a Porsche. In the flesh it looks lovely too. No gimmicks.
I disagree with many on the below. I used to have a sports car (I am biased bc i drove a Porsche Boxster S), now I need a compact SUV bc i will have to drive on snow. But i want a sporty drive that's an SUV. This seems to me the first car on the market that fits my requirements for fun, sexy driving + size + AWD SUV handling + storage. Yay Porsche. My love affair with you continues...Now if only you could buy the Diesel in the USA.
All Range Rover fanboys: "I'd take the Evoque because it looks better". LOL what about driving experience? It seems that you all are fishing for attention from people on the streets.
The thing is though, that the Evoque is one of the best looking crossovers ever made, because it follows the concept car so much. The Macan looks like a carp that has eaten it's own ass and is currently in the process of vomiting it back out. It's so incredibly ugly, like all Porsche SUV type vehicles, it's painful to look at from some angles. People actually care about the looks of a car.
People care about the looks of a car, but people don't say "well the Porsche is better in every objective aspect, but hey, the Range Rover looks better, so I'm going to spend 50,000-60,000 of my own money on that!"
The Macan is probalbly one of the UGLIEST and the most HIDEOUS looking cars out there. How can you even compare it with a car like Evoque?? Yea maybe the Macan is faster. Thats because it has a much bigger engine. Fuck that! who cares
Umar H Khan You're obviously not aware of what self-irony is...but more importantly you suffer from lapse of good taste while you only can insult someone rather than just give some good reason for your statement which you didn't even mark as "only your oppinion" or similar. /irony on You seem to be one of those people this internet-community really needs to accomplish a nice and healthy way of communication. /irony off
It's always fun to read angry posts when one nation's car loses to another. Every single time, and with no exception to nationality, it's the same anger and accusations. Even normally bright and clever people become totally uncompromising and appalled at the results even when it's in their face and so clear. It's fascinating how people still react to such things.
I saw an Evoque in a parking lot just a few days ago and I waited a bit just to speak with the owner. When I walked up to the owner, once she was in the thing, she rolled down the window as I walked up and already knew what I was going to saw! She said "you want to know about this truck don't you?" to which I had to say "yes, as a matter of fact I am curious." she said, "forget it, this is les than a year old and we had to have the engine replaced already." That summed it up neatly.
"The Range Rover is amazing off road but no ones going to use that" "LOOK HOW AMAZING THIS MACAN IS OFF-ROAD, A NORMAL CAR WOULD GROUND HERE" What a tit.
We traded our Evoque and bought the same model as this. It's a far superior car in everyway apart from hard off road use, which to be honest wel'll never use it for.
Thank you for your honest review! Unfortunately most british auto-journalists are biased on british car-makers (marques) and used to praise to the skies their local products.
I had owned 3 Cayennes One Mercedes and a BMWs but nothing compare with the drive of the porsche I just can change back to the others I just like the behavior and the handling of the Porsche
Most biased car review I've ever watched. On 70% of the video he was driving the Macan talking about its features and in the rest of the video he was driving the Evoque still talking about the Porsche. He didn't even do any proper off-roading (which a LOT of potential buyers are interested in) and he didn't mention the clever adapting electronics of the Evoque which the more expensive Macan seems to lack. And he compares the performance of a 2.2 liter inline 4 with that of a 3 liter V6. It felt like comparing a 1.4 Mini One and a 2.0 Golf GTi -- the latter is faster by default. And an inline 4 diesel will by default feel less refined than a V6 diesel. Even if the Macan is so much better, the Evoque deserves a more thorough and balanced presentation and a much more fair performance comparison.
The RR Evoque isn't a real RR in terms of off-road since they use a Haldex system, Porsche use Visko like any other Quattro from VW i guess. So i would say both would do okay offroad but they are nothing compared to a RR/RR sport/LR Defender/Jeep Wrangler when it comes to rocks etc.
What ? Did you say a "lot" of buyers are interested to take these cars off-road ? You got to be mad unless you can show me some research figures. As to the comparison of different engines, tell me which engine spec would you like to compare it with ? What is the top spec Evoque ? The 240 hp 2 liter 4 cylinder turbo petrol ? It is not Porsche's fault to want to put in more powerful engines in their cars. At the same price range, the Maccan S gives you a 3 liter V6 turbo petrol with 340 hp. In short, the Evoque is over-priced. I won't argue the Evoque may look better, so if you want the better looking car, take the Evoque, but that is all there is going for it.
Alex Fu First things first: I never even as much implied that the Evoque is better. What I said is that 1. It's unfair to compare these specific two cars. The Evoque is designed to be a stylish car that's decent on-road (I believe that no one will ever make an SUV that drives like a proper driver's car, but that's just me), pretty potent off-road, as the Top Gear test showed, and stylish. The Macan is designed with a sportier edge, therefore I will return to my Mini One 1.4 vs Golf GTi analogy: the latter is by default faster, because it's a hot hatch, not a stylish city car. Same thing here. My view is that the Evoque and the Macan are not comparable, it's apples vs. oranges. As for the prices of the Evoque, I do agree they are a little bit steep, but then again you buy great looks, pretty good kit and a potent package that, by the end of the day, has a Range Rover badge on it. That tends to affect the price. 2. Even if the reviewer likes the Macan more, presenting both cars in a balanced professional way is his JOB. By not doing so, he fails to do what his job title involves. That comes from someone who respects Steve quite a lot. As for the off-road stuff. I partly agree with you: most people will use these two in town. The Evoque seems too stylish for anyone who wants to go cross country through swamps and the Macan is a Porsche, therefore it has sporty credentials and isn't part of a rugged off-road lineage. However, practical people who want a car that doesn't break your spine on the road like a Terios does (I've been in one twice and the ride was atrocious), has a decent (or more than decent in the case of the Macan) amount of go and looks good, will want to know about these cars' off-roading capabilities. Plus, they are SUVs, they should be tested off-road by default. Again, Steve didn't do his job properly. And he didn't mention the terrain response system of the Evoque which I believe the Macan does not have.
***** OK, so basically your main problem with this review is on looks rather than performance. What did Steve say ? He did admit he happened to think overall the Range Rover looks better. Isn't that quite a non-biased comment ? I would argue "looks" is subjective, you might like brunettes and I might prefer blondes, there is no right and wrong in either case. Even when using your Mini One vs Golf GTI analogy, honestly speaking I happen to think the Golf GTI looks better as I think the Mini is a girlie-looking car, but that's just me. The question is when you prefer the look of a certain car, at what point will it bother you when the other alternative is so much better in performance ? Or are you saying as long as you like the look of the car, that's all that matters ? As for the price of the Evoque, you say you pay for looks and the Range Rover badge. First of all, I don't know how much do you pay for looks and secondly I would argue Porsche might even have the more prestigious badge. At the very least, the Porsche badge value is no cheaper than that of the Range Rover. As for off-rad capability, Steve also said the Evoque is pretty good off-road, not to say the Porsche isn't. Seriously, I have been driving a SUV for years and I have 2 large dogs, all I have done off-road is to run the car onto grass or wet grass with a bit of mud. I will tell you as long as you have 4-wheel drive, that will sort out most situations. Differences only surface when you take the car to some hardcore off-road proving grounds with 60 degrees slopes and deep water hazards when you want to test the wading depth of the car. For that, in my opinion is way extreme and it will be very rare the owners of either cars will be doing. If you are a huge off-road fan, then these 2 cars are not for you anyway. If you want to bang your SUV on a hardcore off-road course, you are probably better off in a Land Rover Defender or Jeep Wrangler.
That thing you said about a car not being able to offroad on that terrain was very wrong. That was barely even offroad, my FWD kia with 14 inch wheels can even go there
im a porsche enthusiast...i love the 911 and the cayman..and i dont understand why people say the cayenne, macan and panamera arent true porsches. Of course they are, and they are probably the best on their segment...they are just different targets, and porsche need to make the best of it from those markets. There is a big opportunity in making great profit from it to keep running the company with pretty good numbers
Used to buy autocar magazine and were very german biased back then looks like there still same ! You forgot to mention wading depth of 300 mm for Macan to 500 mm for RR , I've been through a lot of floods over 300 mm . I've driven defender for years on my 6th now and never had anything go wrong with any of them , neighbour has a merc had to call breakdown out 3 times in 12 months , there both fantastic cars but you need to show the off road strengths of the evoque which would out shine the Macan in that area ,it's alright sayin people will never use of road maybe not but it's what landrover do so I would expect it to just in case you ever needed to, and don't forget floods and snow!
I have test drive all the luxury SUVs. I decided to purchased the Porsche CayenneS pepper. It really has the greatest driving dynamic, great steering sensation on the road. Porsche really did an excellent job. Porsche has really pull this one off. 🦅🦅🇺🇸
@Autocar - are you planning a revisit of this video with the second edition of the Range Rover Evoque with the new ignium engine? it would be really interesting to see how this new engine compares.
Lets be real about this, it doesn't matter how good it is because this class of vehicle in this price range are basically fashion accessories, designer purses on wheels. Therefore, I wonder, how many of these would have really sold if not for the Porsche badge, same goes for the Evoque, Therefore, it really doesn't matter how fast or how well they handle, as long as there are no hideous issues, they'll continue to sell until something else becomes fashionable.
I think this class of SUVs appeal to a much wider range than just women. Downsizing trend is driving various demographics toward smaller vehicles, given that they preserve the refinement and power of their bigger siblings. The 'sensible' customers will migrate from full size SUVs to compact size in the following years, at least in Europe.
And those up market switches on Macan's stearing wheel. They look very nice. Just like the ones on golfs skodas seats... and other similar premium cars. Lovely! I love what vw is doing with porsche. Just keep on the good work.
Our Land Rover was in the shop, shockingly, and they gave us an Evoque for a loaner. It was very similar to driving a Subaru Forester turbo that we used to have. The engine sounded pretty close. The Subaru was more fun to drive though, being a manual. The Evoque was just OK. It looked sort of stupid. I'd take the Forester over the Evoque any day. Now if the comparison is between the Evoque and the Porsche? I'm not sure what I wouldn't take over the Evoque.
If I had to have one, I would have the Macan after hearing people rave about it. I don't like the looks, the rear isn't bad, but the front isn't what you'd call pretty. Better than the Cayenne, but still not pretty. If it was my money, though, I would have a touring/wagon. For 100 grand for the base model (Australian pricing, don' t you love it?), you could get a decent spec BMW or Mercedes, or get something cheaper and save some money. If I had rough roads, I might consider the Macan, but as our farm has fairly smooth gravel roads that city cars handle with ease, I'd take a wagon.
It would be nice if British car journalists told the truth and NOT a pack of lies. Let's expose it: The base model of the Evoque is £30, 200 (21.7.2015) The base model of the Porsche is £41,578 (21.7.2015) DIFFERENCE: £11,000 Approx. Evoque HSE DYNAMIC LUX £46,000 Porsche Turbo £60,994.00 DIFFERENCE: £15,000 Approx. He does not tell you in these reviews that the Porsche is far higher priced than the equivalent Range Rover. Just think what you can do with an extra 11,000 or £15,000 in your bank! Range Rover also have a thumbs up. They are beautiful and the Porsche is a Quasimodo. Thankn God it never passes a mirror because it would die of fright. Purchased only by the yanks!
Clarissa J The Evoque starts with 2.2 liter Diesel engine, the Porsche with a 3 liter V6. If you compare the two cars with a equvalent engine and extras, the price difference is not so large. The point is in general. the Evoque is just a Range Rover and the Macan a real Porsche. Porsche is and was always lightyears ahed of other cars. The 911/997 is the best example: watch?v=86dtpY9_FOw
+Rick2010100 But here in the US the evoque doesnt have different engine options, just the 2L, 4 cylinder is standard which makes it not very comparable from the engine perspective. Also the ride difference, porshe uses an air suspension while evoque only has springs, not even an option I believe.
+Clarissa J Which is why it costs 10k more at least from the base evoque and the base macan. If I had to compare a macan to any range rover it would be the LR4, both use air suspension in the US, both have the engine size, and both have the same base MSRP.
Clarissa J I am pretty shure, that you never have driven a Porsche, otherways you would not come up with such arguments. I can only say, go to you local dealer, ask for a testdrive and you will see that the Porsche is the MUCH more compete car if you want performance. If i wan´t to go on a world travel, the LR could be a option, but in this case the Merc G-Class is the ultimate choice. Also a bit more expensive than a LR but even the British Army uses some G-Class and Unimog for hardcore tasks. watch?v=gQfFO51TJh4 There is also big Military and Luxuary version of the G-Class: watch?v=n9Kr5RKej-Y watch?v=DrUVMdkb4_k Or people who crossed the world a few times with their G-Class like Gunther: watch?v=YpeYOWK3l9E
My sister and brother in law bought a Range Rover Evoque and it looks awesome. Has a lots of technology and rides smooth. I'm trying to sell my future wife onto the Macan. We are going to wait a few years until demand is down or get a used certified one. I doubt the Macan will see offroad action. We already have an LR3 if we wanted to do that.
Another excellent review by Sutcliffe, as good looking as the Evoque is, it seems very outdated compared to how long ago it was released, while the Macan is proof that Porsche simply makes a superior product to pretty much everything else in their respective segment.
Compartively priced until you factor in the £10k+ worth of options you need on the Macan to bring up it up to the standard spec of the Evoque tested here. Macan still the objectively better car though.
Michael Klein Does Volkswagen not exist in your little world? Guess what dipshit, VW Group also owns Audi. And Lamborghini... And Bentley... And Ducati... And Škoda... And Bugatti... And MAN, Scania, Seat.
British reviews are spot on point and of course Porsche macan is well refined, perhaps I'd wait and buy but if it was between Porsche cayenne and Range Rover Autobiography I'd go for Range Rover, I'd expect little majestic appeal over sporty drive. Nevertheless Porsche has always been my dream brand.
However, this isn't just any diesel engine--it's a variant of the well-regarded 3.0-liter V-6 TDI engine found on several Audi models. Porsche made the engine a tad more refined and matched it with a proper transmission and 4WD system so the performance is there along with the better diesel fuel economy.
Sacto1654 Man, look at this. I drive W220 S600 a 11 year old car. Nothing special, and I can afford to run V12 biturbo, Don't tell me that guy who bought a car for nearly 60 000 € doesn't have money ro run a V6 Biturbo or V8 Biturbo in petrol. If my car use a 15 litres per 100km average, someone who buy this car and have a average of 8-10 litres will doesn't not return as he was thinking Diesel motor just can't fit in the image of Porsche, and will never do. Someone tell me jeeez, but it's a economical purchase, bullshit why buy a Porsche and drive diesels like you were driving a Nissan Qashqai for example. Typical VW thinking "to how to squeeze a every cent of each brand belonging to them. People that knows good automotive from 1980-1990 and early 2000 era especially Porsche know that this sort of cars was made to give maximum driving pleasure with great poise. Nowdays clients of Porsche just thinking it is just a better handling, faster, and bertter equipment VW Toureg or Audi Q5/Q7.
the only thing making me prefer the evoque is the macan's rear...I think it should be a bit straighter . The front is absolutely lovely exceptional design troughout, except for the rear which makes the car look a bit stretched.Also in terms of design I would choose te evoque no doubt but if i was given an opportunity to get one of those for free I would probably go for the macan
You should compare the Macan S Diesel with the BMW X3 xDrive30d. The BMW has a 3 liter,6 cylinder engine too, but it has 258 hp and accelerates from 0 to 100 km/h (0-62mph) in just 5.9 sec with a 144 mph top speed. So, on paper the BMW is better, and don't forget the X3 is available in xDrive35d version, which has the same 3 liter engine, but produces 313 hp, and accelerates in 5.3 sec to 100 km/h. I think the Macan isn't the best performer diesel crossover...
there are two things on my theory, which also serves as MHO. First, The Evoque is based on the Freelander and the Macan is based on the Q5, and second, the styling of the Evoque is derived from the LRX, because it is difficult which one is which and the Macan has styling cues derived from the 918 Spyder but the Macan is much better than the Evoque, so the prettiest (and most affordable of all) is the Subaru Forester XT.
Stunning car the Porsche. I wish I was one of the ones near the front of the waiting list but what of the Audi SQ5? With 313 bhp from a 3.0 v6 diesel from Audi's 'S' division. Does that not factor in the sporting SUV debate? In addition apart from a few corporate differences both cars look pretty much the same.
regardless, I still want both. But I want the evoque with a better engine. No diesel. But the Macan I wouldn't mind having a high out put diesel or with the high out put V6.
would much rather say i have a porsche than an evoque as i would feel guilty saying i drive a range rover when talking about the evoque but so used to seeing panameras and cayennes that the macan is a true porsche in this modern age.
Drove them both and then bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit. Fully stuffed for a great price. Especially when I drove the Macan I realized that this is not what I want. Too sporty, too refined, it just does not feel like an offroader. Yes it's a Porsche and it actually feels like a Porsche. Great job, but wrong car for me. I like to sit high and cruise around with a huge car and btw here in Germany my Jeep with the 20 ″ wheels and the big chrome grill turns more heads than a Macan.
This is odd review as the engine sizes are different and there uses different.So the Porsche is an updated Q5 a competitor to the discovery SPORT.Clearly your comparison with engine size in this test is pointless.The discovery sport is more of a comparison
+peter jones the discovery sport uses the same engine as the evoque in the us. Does the discovery sport have a larger engine in the EU? or are you talking about the RANGE ROVER SPORT? not the discovery sport lol.
+bustex1 To be clear the Porsche is a re badged version of the Spanish built Audi Q5. According to Land Rover this is the Freelander replacement.Its initial jaguar sourced engine is shared with the Smaller Evoque on entry level models and the Evoke is equivalent to the Audi Q3 NOT the Q5 model size. The RR Sport should be compared directly with the Porcshe Macan. The Range Rover Sport will according to Land Rover be fitted with a larger possibly V6 in some markets to directly compare with the Porsche and Audi . To be clear if Land Rover confuse Journalists it is an adjunct of Land Rovers Very Poor Marketing and Sales department. The most important point here is NOT to waste the time of your readers (Their time is Valuable). The job in hand was to compare the smaller Evoque with similar cars not mismatches. This was just a very poor bit of Journalism
+peter jones the RR sport already has a 3L V6 supercharged engine stock. They also come in a 5L V8. So I don't know why they want a bigger engine then the V8 unless they raise the base engine from a 3L to a 3.5 or a 3.6. Which then again is over kill for a macan. A base RR sport has 340 Hp. A base macan has 340 hp. The RR sport costs 12k more though.... If you look at the Lr4 it's the same price and also 340 hp.
+bustex1 So we both agree the correct comparison was the review between the RRD Sport and the Porsche. RRD Sport's smaller sister the Evoque clearly looks to be a mismatch in comparison with the Porsche. Your attention is also drawn to other motoring press that the RR Sport offers so much more car in power plants and specs than the vastly over priced Evoque which compares more favorably with the Audi Q3.
Cant compare the two at all. Rovers in general aren't meant to really be sporty. Im not saying that are specifically for off roading but they are indeed a more luxury type suv. I test drove the Macan today and the amount of torque it has is incredible. 340hp for the S and it handles like a sports car. Don't get me started about the noise it makes too... wow
Engineering-wise Porsche is on a completely different level. I don't know why people keep comparing their cars with other brands and expect a fair fight, it's always a foregone conclusion.
What a useless review!!! It's a 4x4 not a drag racing machine??? Plus you can get a new Evoque for under 40k but not even a used Macan under 50k so you may as well compare a 911 with a Ford RS - pointless rubbish.
it's Autocar so Range Rover & Land rover Always Win ;),,,,,,,,,oh Wait!! Autocar for the First time have Chosen Something Else,,,, Hallelujah ;)
As always... Porsche must win over other companies
Fuck porsche
***** ah bro u are mad... look at ur profile picture and name dude -_-
Ashraf Khan Khan u seem respectable dude ;)
don't worry bro... you will feel good next time when your favourite company win ;)
Of course the Porsche is better; It is, after all, a Porsche.
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You're not seriously going for that rr?
I like both the Macan and the Evoque, but it's not exactly fair to compare a $72,000(USD) twin turbo 6cyl with a base $41,000(USD) single turbo inline 4 engine...
I think it would be more fair to compare the Range Rover Sport with the Macan, considering they're in the same price range and both have a twin turbo V6 Diesel engine...
Even so, the Range Rover Sport is up against the Cayenne.
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Yes but it's also up against the Evoque. Pity it looks like the Audi Q3...
Comparing a V8 to a turbo'd V6 pushing similar specs is fair. Comparing a single-turbo inline 4cyl to a twin-turbo V6 that's pumping out 120hp and some 100ftlb of torque more... There's a bit of a mismatch there.
I think the size issue is a more of a visual and obvious difference. This does not have to resort to the spec. Would you compare a Mercedes S class with a BMW 3 series?
I think he's using the diesel RR too, I drove a brand new lr2 yesterday with the 2.0L 240hp/250tq engine and I actually really liked it, the torque from 2-3k rpm is just awesome and its not that fast but its no slouch, plus the lr2 probably weighs more than the evoque so I would expect it to be faster.
While Macan is superior in tarmac performance, fairly sure Evoque is superior in off-road performance. But only about 1% of buyers would do off-road, while about 5% may do enthusiastic tarmac driving, so the Macan is slightly more relevant. Now, Evoque is prettier than Macan to majority of people, but Porsche badge is probably slightly more desirable than RR badge. So, I guess Macan wins.
***** But if you talk to any Range Rover owner that owns a 2012 or below year and they will tell you about the repairs. Must say the off-roading they did wasn't truly off-roading. I'm a Porsche owner/fan and this seemed a tad biased towards Porsche.
Finally Sutcliffe gives us a proper objective review! Keep on in this way please!
There is just no other way to put it, Porsche simply makes better cars than most. And in the SUV category, I still remember how I thought the Cayenne was ugly when it first came out many moons ago when the X5 was the benchmark. Well, guess what ? The Cayenne not only has since grown on me and has now long surpassed the X5. Even when BMW tasked their M-Division to come out with a top-of-the-range model to hopefully regain the throne, they failed. Porsche didn't even need the Cayenne Turbo S to beat out the X5M, just the normal Turbo even with 50 HP down could already accomplish the task. As for the Macan, it is basically the same thing, but only with a smaller model that's all. Don't get me wrong, the Range Rover Evoque is a very nice car in many ways and as long as you don't compare the two you will be alright. But, once you test-drive the cars side by side, the Evoque just won't stand a chance.
Sorry, but when I watch most of AC's reviews, it's usually about supercars in which I can only dream about. So I have to take the reviewer's word for it. But here is something I do have some experience with.
1st. although I've no doubt the Maccan is everything Steve says it is, have you seen the Top Gear review for the Evoque? Are you seriously telling me the Maccan can do that stuff??
2nd. Are we ever going to get a review of an SUV in which the reviewer doesn't laugh about the fact that most owners of SUVs aren't going to go off road? Well, I do go off road. A lot. I live in the Mideast and drive mostly on tarmac, but have to drive in sand (of varying degress of firmness), as well as heavy snow on and offroad in winter. The Evoque has serious offroading pedigree which few SUVs can boast. I'm amazed Steve just drove the Porche and LR down a country drive way and still claimed the Porche was better. Didn't even go near any mud.
But at the end of all my off roading, I can take the Evoque when I go out at the weekends, and my car's the one everyone likes to be seen getting into when it's time to head back home. The Maccan looks like a watered down Porche, and the Porche design has long since stopped turning heads.
I don't doubt the Maccan is the better car for on-road driving (and few cars could match Porche's racing pedigree). But Steve Sutcliffe is a racing driver and seems greatly disappointed when not in a sports car.
Personally I think the Macan 'styling library' has a lot in common with the Opel Kadett's styling library.
Sutcliffe, like so many auto journalists, wrote his conclusion before he went to pick up the cars and can't begin to imagine what real Land Rover owners want from their vehicles. Otherwise he'd have demonstrated towing capability.
Can you see a Macan with towing gear? My Evoque's got it and makes light work out of towing a trailer with an industrial lawn mower or a back-hoe on it. Don't need to to do it every day, of course, but I can when I want to. Same with off-roading. It's not a Defender but the majority of Evoques will find themselves in places that have never seen a Porsche, nor ever will.
@@ethelburga Funny conclusion... The Porsche Macan can tow more than the Evoque.
Considering you misspelled "Porche" and "Maccan" I don't think your opinion is valid.
So, if its ride quality is worse and the Porsche still manages to run circles around it...Where's the selling point of the Evoque ? It might look better now ( or out of fashion very soon ), but that wouldn't make me wanna pay the same price as for one of the german competitors, if they can outpeform it on so many levels...
The Evoque really looks stunning though. I'm not gonna buy an SUV for handling. Only biggie for me is the engine... the Macan makes good power and sips fuel. I think that is a more legit selling point, but also one that would make sense for JLR to answer. Competition strengthens the breed.
You cant compare the Evoque to it, the Porsche's engine is 50% larger,how about Landrover sticking a 3 litre Jaguar engine in the Evoque then you will see it take on its bigger brother the Cayenne and running rings around it, like what its cousins in the family do to the German cars I.e. the jaguars and supercharge Range Rovers. What RUclips on them vs their German counterparts
JLR has a 3.0L TDI V6.... just a matter of seeing if they can fit it into the Evoque's nose.
Years later the Porsche hasn't change ,still an ugly 4x4,and no amount of cosmetic surgery is going to change it. When it first arrived in the UK many people thought it was a Hyundai
Ian Nixon Exactly. All this guy was saying is that its faster than the Evoque. OFCOURSE ITS FASTER! It has a much larger engine! But thats not everything in a car. the Evoque is much, much better than that ugly looking shit
I love your video, perfect English, no accent, very calm, and, yes, the Range cannot compare to the Porshe, I agree; more than a year to wait for the last, too bad!
I only wish Macan could look as brutal on the rear as it is on the front
0:39 when he says hes gonna give everything in second gear, hes actually in third gear
I concur with this review. Test drove both SUVs and the Macan seems more worth it in terms of price, luxury and quality #porschemacan
The Evoque and Macan are as different as their parent companies history. Range Rover is a luxurious off roader and the Macan is an off road capable sports car.
I would probably choose a Porsche product.
I love Porsches, I understand the Macan is a great car but I'd still go for the Evoque. The reason is a combination of the RR having a certain flair and that I personally find it wrong to buy a Porsche SUV. Oh and I'd get the Evoque with the 2 litre petrol engine.
Buddy, probably the best comment I read. You need adaptive dynamics on it. the stability is incredible.trust me, at one point you will forget your in a compact SUV. Its an absolut pleasure to drive, and indeed is a head turner. I don't ever see this macan being that.
There is only one thing I do not like about the Macan and that is its name.
You can remove the name on the car :D
Reminds me of bacon
The name I thinks sounds(pronouncing) funny, but looks(appearance) nice
on the car...lol
andyb0x oh yeah? macan/makan means "eat" in my language. so macan turbo be like "eat turbo"
And those fleas are range rovers and bmws
better forward this onto my dad. he was interested in getting an Evoque! now I think he should change his mind. awesome review :)
I drive a 911 and usually look down my nose at any SUV, including the Cayenne, but sat in a Macan at the dealer the other day and suddenly thought, hey this is a possibility for me if I ever decide that I've had enough of the 911. There I was cosseted in luxury and quality, and it seemed every inch a Porsche. In the flesh it looks lovely too. No gimmicks.
John McDermott ZO6 Corvette is better than ugly piece of shit Porshe
I disagree with many on the below. I used to have a sports car (I am biased bc i drove a Porsche Boxster S), now I need a compact SUV bc i will have to drive on snow. But i want a sporty drive that's an SUV. This seems to me the first car on the market that fits my requirements for fun, sexy driving + size + AWD SUV handling + storage. Yay Porsche. My love affair with you continues...Now if only you could buy the Diesel in the USA.
All Range Rover fanboys: "I'd take the Evoque because it looks better". LOL what about driving experience? It seems that you all are fishing for attention from people on the streets.
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The thing is though, that the Evoque is one of the best looking crossovers ever made, because it follows the concept car so much. The Macan looks like a carp that has eaten it's own ass and is currently in the process of vomiting it back out. It's so incredibly ugly, like all Porsche SUV type vehicles, it's painful to look at from some angles. People actually care about the looks of a car.
People care about the looks of a car, but people don't say "well the Porsche is better in every objective aspect, but hey, the Range Rover looks better, so I'm going to spend 50,000-60,000 of my own money on that!"
The Macan is probalbly one of the UGLIEST and the most HIDEOUS looking cars out there. How can you even compare it with a car like Evoque??
Yea maybe the Macan is faster. Thats because it has a much bigger engine. Fuck that! who cares
Umar H Khan
...said (U)mar (H) Khan .... oh yea..I'm so funny! :D
But seriously..one of the ugliest cars out there??? How many cars do you know of? x)
Umar H Khan You're obviously not aware of what self-irony is...but more importantly you suffer from lapse of good taste while you only can insult someone rather than just give some good reason for your statement which you didn't even mark as "only your oppinion" or similar.
/irony on
You seem to be one of those people this internet-community really needs to accomplish a nice and healthy way of communication.
/irony off
Umar H Khan Drives better, more refined, bigger backseat, bigger boot, more reliable... i rest my case.
Yes the orders are huge but I suspect it has stolen a fair few orders of the Cayenne. Makes the Cayenne seem a bit pointless
It's also a lot less ugly than the Cayenne. And the Panamera.
It's always fun to read angry posts when one nation's car loses to another. Every single time, and with no exception to nationality, it's the same anger and accusations. Even normally bright and clever people become totally uncompromising and appalled at the results even when it's in their face and so clear. It's fascinating how people still react to such things.
Land Rover is owned by India... Jaguar Pakistan... its not British for a while now...
I love land rovers interior cabins they are so nice and full of light
I saw an Evoque in a parking lot just a few days ago and I waited a bit just to speak with the owner. When I walked up to the owner, once she was in the thing, she rolled down the window as I walked up and already knew what I was going to saw! She said "you want to know about this truck don't you?" to which I had to say "yes, as a matter of fact I am curious." she said, "forget it, this is les than a year old and we had to have the engine replaced already." That summed it up neatly.
"The Range Rover is amazing off road but no ones going to use that"
"LOOK HOW AMAZING THIS MACAN IS OFF-ROAD, A NORMAL CAR WOULD GROUND HERE"
What a tit.
We traded our Evoque and bought the same model as this. It's a far superior car in everyway apart from hard off road use, which to be honest wel'll never use it for.
Thank you for your honest review! Unfortunately most british auto-journalists are biased on british car-makers (marques) and used to praise to the skies their local products.
I had owned 3 Cayennes One Mercedes and a BMWs but nothing compare with the drive of the porsche I just can change back to the others I just like the behavior and the handling of the Porsche
Most biased car review I've ever watched. On 70% of the video he was driving the Macan talking about its features and in the rest of the video he was driving the Evoque still talking about the Porsche. He didn't even do any proper off-roading (which a LOT of potential buyers are interested in) and he didn't mention the clever adapting electronics of the Evoque which the more expensive Macan seems to lack. And he compares the performance of a 2.2 liter inline 4 with that of a 3 liter V6. It felt like comparing a 1.4 Mini One and a 2.0 Golf GTi -- the latter is faster by default. And an inline 4 diesel will by default feel less refined than a V6 diesel. Even if the Macan is so much better, the Evoque deserves a more thorough and balanced presentation and a much more fair performance comparison.
The RR Evoque isn't a real RR in terms of off-road since they use a Haldex system, Porsche use Visko like any other Quattro from VW i guess.
So i would say both would do okay offroad but they are nothing compared to a RR/RR sport/LR Defender/Jeep Wrangler when it comes to rocks etc.
What ? Did you say a "lot" of buyers are interested to take these cars off-road ? You got to be mad unless you can show me some research figures. As to the comparison of different engines, tell me which engine spec would you like to compare it with ? What is the top spec Evoque ? The 240 hp 2 liter 4 cylinder turbo petrol ? It is not Porsche's fault to want to put in more powerful engines in their cars. At the same price range, the Maccan S gives you a 3 liter V6 turbo petrol with 340 hp. In short, the Evoque is over-priced. I won't argue the Evoque may look better, so if you want the better looking car, take the Evoque, but that is all there is going for it.
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Alex Fu First things first: I never even as much implied that the Evoque is better. What I said is that
1. It's unfair to compare these specific two cars. The Evoque is designed to be a stylish car that's decent on-road (I believe that no one will ever make an SUV that drives like a proper driver's car, but that's just me), pretty potent off-road, as the Top Gear test showed, and stylish. The Macan is designed with a sportier edge, therefore I will return to my Mini One 1.4 vs Golf GTi analogy: the latter is by default faster, because it's a hot hatch, not a stylish city car. Same thing here. My view is that the Evoque and the Macan are not comparable, it's apples vs. oranges. As for the prices of the Evoque, I do agree they are a little bit steep, but then again you buy great looks, pretty good kit and a potent package that, by the end of the day, has a Range Rover badge on it. That tends to affect the price.
2. Even if the reviewer likes the Macan more, presenting both cars in a balanced professional way is his JOB. By not doing so, he fails to do what his job title involves. That comes from someone who respects Steve quite a lot. As for the off-road stuff. I partly agree with you: most people will use these two in town. The Evoque seems too stylish for anyone who wants to go cross country through swamps and the Macan is a Porsche, therefore it has sporty credentials and isn't part of a rugged off-road lineage. However, practical people who want a car that doesn't break your spine on the road like a Terios does (I've been in one twice and the ride was atrocious), has a decent (or more than decent in the case of the Macan) amount of go and looks good, will want to know about these cars' off-roading capabilities. Plus, they are SUVs, they should be tested off-road by default. Again, Steve didn't do his job properly. And he didn't mention the terrain response system of the Evoque which I believe the Macan does not have.
***** OK, so basically your main problem with this review is on looks rather than performance. What did Steve say ? He did admit he happened to think overall the Range Rover looks better. Isn't that quite a non-biased comment ? I would argue "looks" is subjective, you might like brunettes and I might prefer blondes, there is no right and wrong in either case. Even when using your Mini One vs Golf GTI analogy, honestly speaking I happen to think the Golf GTI looks better as I think the Mini is a girlie-looking car, but that's just me. The question is when you prefer the look of a certain car, at what point will it bother you when the other alternative is so much better in performance ? Or are you saying as long as you like the look of the car, that's all that matters ? As for the price of the Evoque, you say you pay for looks and the Range Rover badge. First of all, I don't know how much do you pay for looks and secondly I would argue Porsche might even have the more prestigious badge. At the very least, the Porsche badge value is no cheaper than that of the Range Rover.
As for off-rad capability, Steve also said the Evoque is pretty good off-road, not to say the Porsche isn't. Seriously, I have been driving a SUV for years and I have 2 large dogs, all I have done off-road is to run the car onto grass or wet grass with a bit of mud. I will tell you as long as you have 4-wheel drive, that will sort out most situations. Differences only surface when you take the car to some hardcore off-road proving grounds with 60 degrees slopes and deep water hazards when you want to test the wading depth of the car. For that, in my opinion is way extreme and it will be very rare the owners of either cars will be doing. If you are a huge off-road fan, then these 2 cars are not for you anyway. If you want to bang your SUV on a hardcore off-road course, you are probably better off in a Land Rover Defender or Jeep Wrangler.
Is it more appropriate to compare that Porsche Macan with the Range Rover Sport Diesel?
They need to put the 3 td6 engine in the evoque, the 1 that's in the discovery and jag xf etc.
In what world does the Range Rover look better than the Porsche? Okay, the front is not that great, but dat ass!
That thing you said about a car not being able to offroad on that terrain was very wrong. That was barely even offroad, my FWD kia with 14 inch wheels can even go there
The Range Rover is such a gas guzzler, PORSCHE MACAN FOR THE WIN!!!
No one cares about that anymore
im a porsche enthusiast...i love the 911 and the cayman..and i dont understand why people say the cayenne, macan and panamera arent true porsches. Of course they are, and they are probably the best on their segment...they are just different targets, and porsche need to make the best of it from those markets. There is a big opportunity in making great profit from it to keep running the company with pretty good numbers
Used to buy autocar magazine and were very german biased back then looks like there still same ! You forgot to mention wading depth of 300 mm for Macan to 500 mm for RR , I've been through a lot of floods over 300 mm . I've driven defender for years on my 6th now and never had anything go wrong with any of them , neighbour has a merc had to call breakdown out 3 times in 12 months , there both fantastic cars but you need to show the off road strengths of the evoque which would out shine the Macan in that area ,it's alright sayin people will never use of road maybe not but it's what landrover do so I would expect it to just in case you ever needed to, and don't forget floods and snow!
Yay, a fair review from Autocar where the Range Rover doesn't automatically win! Great work! :)
I sold my Evoque to get a Macan. The turbo Macan does 62mph in 4s
Nice to hear an English chap dissing a Range Rover. Thanks for telling the bloody truth.
I have test drive all the luxury SUVs. I decided to purchased the Porsche CayenneS pepper. It really has the greatest driving dynamic, great steering sensation on the road. Porsche really did an excellent job. Porsche has really pull this one off. 🦅🦅🇺🇸
Vw's emissions on that engine in the Porsche will all be fake lol
@Autocar - are you planning a revisit of this video with the second edition of the Range Rover Evoque with the new ignium engine? it would be really interesting to see how this new engine compares.
Lets be real about this, it doesn't matter how good it is because this class of vehicle in this price range are basically fashion accessories, designer purses on wheels. Therefore, I wonder, how many of these would have really sold if not for the Porsche badge, same goes for the Evoque, Therefore, it really doesn't matter how fast or how well they handle, as long as there are no hideous issues, they'll continue to sell until something else becomes fashionable.
I think this class of SUVs appeal to a much wider range than just women. Downsizing trend is driving various demographics toward smaller vehicles, given that they preserve the refinement and power of their bigger siblings. The 'sensible' customers will migrate from full size SUVs to compact size in the following years, at least in Europe.
And those up market switches on Macan's stearing wheel. They look very nice. Just like the ones on golfs skodas seats... and other similar premium cars. Lovely! I love what vw is doing with porsche. Just keep on the good work.
Nice review! BTW, do you use a Sony RX100 to record the in-car part?
Our Land Rover was in the shop, shockingly, and they gave us an Evoque for a loaner. It was very similar to driving a Subaru Forester turbo that we used to have. The engine sounded pretty close. The Subaru was more fun to drive though, being a manual. The Evoque was just OK. It looked sort of stupid. I'd take the Forester over the Evoque any day. Now if the comparison is between the Evoque and the Porsche? I'm not sure what I wouldn't take over the Evoque.
Nice straight forward review !!!
Would be handy if the Price As Tested was given in a review etc
I live within few miles from JLR in the Midlands. Evoque FTW!!
Macan looks better too
naaaa
Carlos Barragan too many plastic bits on the rover
evoque coupe looks humiliates your vw toureg porsche LOL
Love Porsches. Even love the Cayenne GTS. But I do not like the Macan. I'd prefer the Evoque.
If I had to have one, I would have the Macan after hearing people rave about it. I don't like the looks, the rear isn't bad, but the front isn't what you'd call pretty. Better than the Cayenne, but still not pretty. If it was my money, though, I would have a touring/wagon. For 100 grand for the base model (Australian pricing, don' t you love it?), you could get a decent spec BMW or Mercedes, or get something cheaper and save some money. If I had rough roads, I might consider the Macan, but as our farm has fairly smooth gravel roads that city cars handle with ease, I'd take a wagon.
My dad got the Porsche macan yesterday
Why do Porsche insist on putting a 'diesel' badge on the front wings, they do the same with the Panamera diesel, it just looks stupid.
that porsche steering wheel looks very nice
Love the Macan S Diesel, it's so cool.
It would be nice if British car journalists told the truth and NOT a pack of lies. Let's expose it:
The base model of the Evoque is £30, 200 (21.7.2015)
The base model of the Porsche is £41,578 (21.7.2015)
DIFFERENCE: £11,000 Approx.
Evoque HSE DYNAMIC LUX £46,000
Porsche Turbo £60,994.00
DIFFERENCE: £15,000 Approx.
He does not tell you in these reviews that the Porsche is far higher priced than the equivalent Range Rover.
Just think what you can do with an extra 11,000 or £15,000 in your bank!
Range Rover also have a thumbs up. They are beautiful and the Porsche is a Quasimodo. Thankn God it never passes a mirror because it would die of fright.
Purchased only by the yanks!
Clarissa J The Evoque starts with 2.2 liter Diesel engine, the Porsche with a 3 liter V6. If you compare the two cars with a equvalent engine and extras, the price difference is not so large. The point is in general. the Evoque is just a Range Rover and the Macan a real Porsche. Porsche is and was always lightyears ahed of other cars. The 911/997 is the best example:
watch?v=86dtpY9_FOw
+Rick2010100 But here in the US the evoque doesnt have different engine options, just the 2L, 4 cylinder is standard which makes it not very comparable from the engine perspective. Also the ride difference, porshe uses an air suspension while evoque only has springs, not even an option I believe.
+bustex1 You must remember that you are paying MORE for the suspension. It's a huge amount over what the Range Rover costs.
+Clarissa J Which is why it costs 10k more at least from the base evoque and the base macan. If I had to compare a macan to any range rover it would be the LR4, both use air suspension in the US, both have the engine size, and both have the same base MSRP.
Clarissa J I am pretty shure, that you never have driven a Porsche, otherways you would not come up with such arguments.
I can only say, go to you local dealer, ask for a testdrive and you will see that the Porsche is the MUCH more compete car if you want performance.
If i wan´t to go on a world travel, the LR could be a option, but in this case the Merc G-Class is the ultimate choice. Also a bit more expensive than a LR but even the British Army uses some G-Class and Unimog for hardcore tasks.
watch?v=gQfFO51TJh4
There is also big Military and Luxuary version of the G-Class:
watch?v=n9Kr5RKej-Y
watch?v=DrUVMdkb4_k
Or people who crossed the world a few times with their G-Class like Gunther:
watch?v=YpeYOWK3l9E
I don't really like the Macan Turbo, but this one makes much more sense. I want one.
really hope i'll be able to afford a macan, seems like angreat car:)
I think the advantage of Range rover evoque it looks more stylish and beautiful car !!
Which car is better?
nice video, but this is not a comparison , this is a Porsche commercial. Very unfair for the Evoque
My sister and brother in law bought a Range Rover Evoque and it looks awesome. Has a lots of technology and rides smooth. I'm trying to sell my future wife onto the Macan. We are going to wait a few years until demand is down or get a used certified one. I doubt the Macan will see offroad action. We already have an LR3 if we wanted to do that.
Another excellent review by Sutcliffe, as good looking as the Evoque is, it seems very outdated compared to how long ago it was released, while the Macan is proof that Porsche simply makes a superior product to pretty much everything else in their respective segment.
I assume you haven't read the reviews on the F-type coupe R?
Compartively priced until you factor in the £10k+ worth of options you need on the Macan to bring up it up to the standard spec of the Evoque tested here. Macan still the objectively better car though.
1 year wait? Its all part of their marketing plan. Go buy an Audi or BMW and stick your fingers up at Porsche.
Audi owns Porsche.
Michael Klein VW owns Audi
everyone knows that
Michael Klein Audi never owned Porsche.
Michael Klein Does Volkswagen not exist in your little world? Guess what dipshit, VW Group also owns Audi. And Lamborghini... And Bentley... And Ducati... And Škoda... And Bugatti... And MAN, Scania, Seat.
finally fair review and i liked it
Which is better off road?
Jeez that was interesting: a nine minutes blabber on an suv without offroad testing. Ingenius.
British reviews are spot on point and of course Porsche macan is well refined, perhaps I'd wait and buy but if it was between Porsche cayenne and Range Rover Autobiography I'd go for Range Rover, I'd expect little majestic appeal over sporty drive. Nevertheless Porsche has always been my dream brand.
The Macan in the first vehicle since a 1972 3-speed Toyota Landcruiser, which could convince me to get an SUV.
The Macan seems so much more free and flexible but Evoke seems so bulky and slow 🤔🤔
Small SUV with diesel engine?!? Ferdinand Porsche is turning in his grave
I think that Prosche financial health matter more than "SUV diesel engine". And clearly, so far, Porsche made the right choice ; 1 year waiting list.
akell2 Yeah, because Porsches owner - VW, are so poor that they can't afford to not make a lot of money of Porsche
branot89 damn right
However, this isn't just any diesel engine--it's a variant of the well-regarded 3.0-liter V-6 TDI engine found on several Audi models. Porsche made the engine a tad more refined and matched it with a proper transmission and 4WD system so the performance is there along with the better diesel fuel economy.
Sacto1654 Man, look at this. I drive W220 S600 a 11 year old car. Nothing special, and I can afford to run V12 biturbo, Don't tell me that guy who bought a car for nearly 60 000 € doesn't have money ro run a V6 Biturbo or V8 Biturbo in petrol. If my car use a 15 litres per 100km average, someone who buy this car and have a average of 8-10 litres will doesn't not return as he was thinking Diesel motor just can't fit in the image of Porsche, and will never do. Someone tell me jeeez, but it's a economical purchase, bullshit why buy a Porsche and drive diesels like you were driving a Nissan Qashqai for example. Typical VW thinking "to how to squeeze a every cent of each brand belonging to them. People that knows good automotive from 1980-1990 and early 2000 era especially Porsche know that this sort of cars was made to give maximum driving pleasure with great poise. Nowdays clients of Porsche just thinking it is just a better handling, faster, and bertter equipment VW Toureg or Audi Q5/Q7.
I'm happy with my Infiniti EX35 next compact SUV or crossover I'm gonna get would be the GLA AMG 45
Simon Stephens Africa is not a country
well in australia the porsche is not just a bit expensive than evoque. the cheapest evoque would be around $65000 and the porsche is around $100000
Wow £40k for a range rover which is around $85k singapore dollars. Here in sg it costs $223k which is around £103k ):
the only thing making me prefer the evoque is the macan's rear...I think it should be a bit straighter . The front is absolutely lovely exceptional design troughout, except for the rear which makes the car look a bit stretched.Also in terms of design I would choose te evoque no doubt but if i was given an opportunity to get one of those for free I would probably go for the macan
Should have tested it vs BMW X3 and Audi Q5. Range Rover Evoque is in a smaller class.
next, let's compare the Mazda MX5 against the La Ferrari(!)
Not really fair to compare these two, the new velar is more in the same class as the Macan and would make a much better comparison
Range Rover wi..... Oh wait, what!?
£32k evoque (with auto) compared to £42k macan...why?
Macan is longer than Evoque, yet Evoque has the larger trunk volume. He misleadingly claims Macan has more trunk space.
You should compare the Macan S Diesel with the BMW X3 xDrive30d. The BMW has a 3 liter,6 cylinder engine too, but it has 258 hp and accelerates from 0 to 100 km/h (0-62mph) in just 5.9 sec with a 144 mph top speed. So, on paper the BMW is better, and don't forget the X3 is available in xDrive35d version, which has the same 3 liter engine, but produces 313 hp, and accelerates in 5.3 sec to 100 km/h. I think the Macan isn't the best performer diesel crossover...
there are two things on my theory, which also serves as MHO. First, The Evoque is based on the Freelander and the Macan is based on the Q5, and second, the styling of the Evoque is derived from the LRX, because it is difficult which one is which and the Macan has styling cues derived from the 918 Spyder but the Macan is much better than the Evoque, so the prettiest (and most affordable of all) is the Subaru Forester XT.
Stunning car the Porsche. I wish I was one of the ones near the front of the waiting list but what of the Audi SQ5? With 313 bhp from a 3.0 v6 diesel from Audi's 'S' division. Does that not factor in the sporting SUV debate? In addition apart from a few corporate differences both cars look pretty much the same.
Had a porshe macan for 2 years, had so many issues. 2 times ransfer cases replacement, finally had to get rid of it.
regardless, I still want both. But I want the evoque with a better engine. No diesel. But the Macan I wouldn't mind having a high out put diesel or with the high out put V6.
Another thing that the Porsche is better at is rear visibility!!
Oh i was wrong
would much rather say i have a porsche than an evoque as i would feel guilty saying i drive a range rover when talking about the evoque but so used to seeing panameras and cayennes that the macan is a true porsche in this modern age.
Drove them both and then bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit. Fully stuffed for a great price. Especially when I drove the Macan I realized that this is not what I want. Too sporty, too refined, it just does not feel like an offroader. Yes it's a Porsche and it actually feels like a Porsche. Great job, but wrong car for me. I like to sit high and cruise around with a huge car and btw here in Germany my Jeep with the 20 ″ wheels and the big chrome grill turns more heads than a Macan.
Land Rover needs to bring out an Evoque SVR with over 300hp! But the Macan is a great Car, looks much better than the Cayenne!
I'd be happy with an Evoque nice looking car, nice inside, the only reason you'd buy the Porsche over the Evoque is because it's better to drive
Great video but shouldn't compare 4 cylinder and a 6 cylinder. Macan is more expensive too.
This is odd review as the engine sizes are different and there uses different.So the Porsche is an updated Q5 a competitor to the discovery SPORT.Clearly your comparison with engine size in this test is pointless.The discovery sport is more of a comparison
+peter jones the discovery sport uses the same engine as the evoque in the us. Does the discovery sport have a larger engine in the EU? or are you talking about the RANGE ROVER SPORT? not the discovery sport lol.
+bustex1 To be clear the Porsche is a re badged version of the Spanish built Audi Q5.
According to Land Rover this is the Freelander replacement.Its initial jaguar sourced engine is shared with the Smaller Evoque on entry level models and the Evoke is equivalent to the Audi Q3 NOT the Q5 model size.
The RR Sport should be compared directly with the Porcshe Macan. The Range Rover Sport will according to Land Rover be fitted with a larger possibly V6 in some markets to directly compare with the Porsche and Audi . To be clear if Land Rover confuse Journalists it is an adjunct of Land Rovers Very Poor Marketing and Sales department. The most important point here is NOT to waste the time of your readers (Their time is Valuable). The job in hand was to compare the smaller Evoque with similar cars not mismatches.
This was just a very poor bit of Journalism
+peter jones the RR sport already has a 3L V6 supercharged engine stock. They also come in a 5L V8. So I don't know why they want a bigger engine then the V8 unless they raise the base engine from a 3L to a 3.5 or a 3.6. Which then again is over kill for a macan. A base RR sport has 340 Hp. A base macan has 340 hp. The RR sport costs 12k more though.... If you look at the Lr4 it's the same price and also 340 hp.
+bustex1 So we both agree the correct comparison was the review between the RRD Sport and the Porsche. RRD Sport's smaller sister the Evoque clearly looks to be a mismatch in comparison with the Porsche. Your attention is also drawn to other motoring press that the RR Sport offers so much more car in power plants and specs than the vastly over priced Evoque which compares more favorably with the Audi Q3.
+peter jones i agree with half of what ur saying. Let's leave it at that lol
Cant compare the two at all. Rovers in general aren't meant to really be sporty. Im not saying that are specifically for off roading but they are indeed a more luxury type suv. I test drove the Macan today and the amount of torque it has is incredible. 340hp for the S and it handles like a sports car. Don't get me started about the noise it makes too... wow
For the prize of the Macan you can buy a Range Rover Sport V6 258hp or a V6 292hp of stock. The Evoque is not a rival to the Macan.
Engineering-wise Porsche is on a completely different level. I don't know why people keep comparing their cars with other brands and expect a fair fight, it's always a foregone conclusion.
What a useless review!!! It's a 4x4 not a drag racing machine??? Plus you can get a new Evoque for under 40k but not even a used Macan under 50k so you may as well compare a 911 with a Ford RS - pointless rubbish.
Haha... Butthurt?
Good point!