If you really wanted to be transparent, at the end of the video you should display the value DJVG would pay for the same games vs price charting vs GS ( mild suggestion )
I won't speak for Cooper, but as a fellow game store owner, I don't give out that information. It's not because I'm trying to be secretive and plan to low ball you in person or something. One of the main reasons is that I need to see the exact item you wish to sell to know what I can actually offer. Stores like GameStop don't care in the slightest about condition or completeness (which hurts the customer in the long run), but many retro game stores will adjust their offers and pricing accordingly. You also can't break down your buy-values ahead of time by those factors, since most people's understanding of "good condition" or "CIB" varies. Also, in Cooper's case, someone might watch this video a couple months from now, and the offers could be completely different just purely based on the constant fluctuation of the prices. Personally, I just don't want to give out any false expectations to my customers. If you want to sell your games, you have to bring them into the store and I will go through everything, test what I need to, and make you an offer.
@@MrNicholas7 That's the thing though, he knows the EXACT condition of the items in his collection, so if he wanted he could throw out a number that if someone that could be assumed to be a "known regular" came in to the store with that exact collection in that exact condition. So yea, the value will change over time, but as of EOY 2024, he showed the price charting value and what Gamestop website would offer, so a DJVG trade in credit value would be an INTERESTING number to have in this video. It's not about false expectations, because literally no one probably has a collection of Sic's calibur, so he could inflate it a little bit, but at least give us an idea of how much DJVG is BETTER than Gamestop, rather than just "I guarentee any retro video game store will give you more than gamestop" ... $1 more? or like... an actual number more.... Just about transparency, who knows maybe then Retro Rick will throw out a video saying he's pay WAY MORE THAN DJVG and we can get that spicy youtube drama going.
@@SicCooperOfficial It did cross you mind since you said at 29:19 that "every other retro video game store would be able to beat gamestop". But anyways, you already replied to another comment DJVG would be between 60 and 80%. So PC value = 7.8k, GS value = 1.2k, GS cash = 0.85, DJVG value @ 70% = 5.5k. Of course if you wanted to be apples to apples with Gamestop not caring if it was CIB, you'd list the PC value as LOOSE only, but that would be nit picking and probably didn't cross your mind to be that thorough. Edit: and since DJ doesn't use PC for reals for reals, lets just put a 33% bump to the PC value for "condition" across the board since that is a pretty sweet collection in better than PC CIB value truly.
@@WaltHeisenberg-b4hyou're probably joking about the YT drama (I hope), but retro rick's and djvg are in two different markets, with different offerings and different market fluctuations. It would serve as (useless, as usual) drama and nothing more
I think it’s been shown for decades now that GameStop does not want to work with 50% margins. They want to make 70-80% profit on anything they take in. The prices they take them in may be low but the prices they sell them at are just good enough that it’ll almost always be instant sellouts when they get them in. They’re always out of stock online because resellers also buy them in hopes of getting complete copies (for something like gamecube) and making profit reselling it. If it’s a loose copy then it’s just an easy return to a local store. As much as it sucks that people sell it for cheap, no one forces them to do that and collectors like me get lucky later on like when I got my copy of emerald for $60 from GameStop last year before they raised prices on it.
Why would you expect to get price charting values at GameStop for 15 plus year old games? They’re basing everything off of suggested market retail and not collector value.
Please trade in your Pokemon games to Gamestop. Last Friday I picked up FireRed at my local GS for only $55. Side note, they also had Jurassic Park for SNES $53.
This is a thing gamestop does. When they are out of stock of the item, they will lower the price of then, so when they get it traded in, the trade in price is much lower and when they got a stock of them in they raise the price closer to retail
price on retro is nuts now here in UK I saw Pokemon Yellow on gameboy for £150...crazy. I guess games are to us the same way antiques are to our parents. I kinda wish when I worked in a videogame store in early 2000's that I bought as many games as I could and kept them sealed.
I don’t have any experience selling retro games at GameStop but I have had sold modern games and consoles before and I have gotten more back than what was told on the site before. I don’t know if it was because of the condition and or I had everything that came with the console or game or maybe it was the employee that I was working with. GameStop is not the place to sell retro games period. They don’t even check if the game is legit or not.
When you got to emerald i had to pause....at 2nd chance i cant even keep pokemon in stock. We pay 50% or more depending on condition and they sell basically as I'm trying to buy them. Ive even sold a copy of crystal that had the label pealed off and i asked an employee to draw it back on. Im cool with gamestop employees and even network with a few in my area try to help customers find what theyre looking for if we dont have it but......oh my gawdddd. Thats some evil reseller stuff. Team rocket would approve.
I heard they offer ridiculously low prices on all their grail / high priced retro cartridge-based games to discourage customers from trading in repros since its not feasible to (and they don't want to invest in) training their entire staff to spot fakes. They also sell them for below market value because they know a good percentage of the ones they are selling could be repros as well. As an example they are currently offering $26.95 cash / $38.50 credit (for PRO members) for Chrono Trigger which they sell for $99.99. It's currently $209.99 (loose) on price charting.
I am a massive pokemon fan and I have every Pokemon game big box special edition cib, every Pokemon console and handheld cib and even Japan versions that the United States never seen. I love pokemon
I don't understand why would GameStop fire someone because a customer of wanted to bring a camera and asked how much he's getting for his video games GameStop have so many made of rules and they be on some shit because I hang out and study them a lot
I got a minty Pokémon Emerald @ GameStop for $56 1 month ago - my jaw dropped when i saw it in their case.. Funny thing is Pokémon BLACK sells @ GS for $80+
My nostalgia for Pokemon games ended with Diamond and Pearl basically so I've never been able to really get into any Pokemon games after that point. I got a flashcart for $8 with 208 ds games on it which include all those other Pokemon games but even then I've tried Pokemon White and played it for a little I'm at like the 3rd Gym maybe 4th but it just doesn't feel the same to me because many of the Pokemon I have no idea who they are... I think I would enjoy Soul Silver or Heart Gold more because I did play crystal version a few times and I at least know those Pokemon but I really loved emerald and saphire growing up so I've been thinking about trying Alpha Saphire. I basically own every pokemon game from the original game boy up to diamond and pearl besides Ruby so that's where my Nostalgia is for me.
Nice video. Out of curiosity, what percentage of PriceCharting does that place GameStop at for their offer? And what percentage of PriceCharting does your store offer? (I’m assuming it’s in the ballpark of 40-70% of PC?)
On a collection like this, we would definitely be in the 60 to 80% range, but more common stuff definitely can get down to that 30 or 40% range sometimes. Gamestop’s cash offer is just under 11% for this collection
Do you have Pokémon cards collection if so would try looking that up spread sheet for game stop see what is worth trading in stores cards I wonder what value on cards would be less too at GameStop
Thing is…GameStop is known to take those famous reproduction (fakes) cartridges for Pokemon. Have seen both in GameStop stores. Actually purchased an authentic Yellow GB version during Covid. Had the number punch in label and battery. This was from my local store. A GameStop I’ve been in NYC on the other hand had a bunch of GBA fakes as no number punch in the labels, and you could tell the plastic looked cheep too. Told employee you know those are fake right? He said yes he knows they are fake but are to still take them hence why they sell Pokemon games way below Price Charting, as average consumer can’t tell and they just want to play the game and don’t care.
while i understand you have complete games, for the sake of additional comparison, you should have also run the simulation with least complete acceptable games (aka cartridge only versions). Just for the sake of fairness.
And even more since price charting at time struggles with certain nuances. (for example seller will declare his game CIB even if it is missing a poster, as long as he has box and manual. And that poster can be additional price difference which price charting is not catching up)
Gamestop isn't that bad as a buyer, you just got to visit enough stores and ask enough times to see retro to get authentic copies for a deal. Or roll the dice and order them online when they get int stock. I got CIB Heartgold, Plat, all the 3DS titles and a handful of the DS rangers between 2020 and 2022 from just asking to see the retro stock. During B2G1 online, scored a lot of loose copies of the Gameboy titles including an autherntic Emerald / Sapphire / Crystal along with the more common R/B/Y. Hit rate 90% authentic, the other 10 had to return in person instore. But yea, if you know the value don't trade in. duh.
Makes you wonder who is selling them the games, that said the prices are amazing if the copies are legit copies when they get them in. To me the credit values is fair compared to what they sell em for but not compared to the actual worth of the item.
@@superj2644 Its the same people all the resellers at yard sales and flea markets and facebook market place refreshers are looking for - normal people who just want to clear space in their attic / garage and really don't care how much an item is worth if they can just get some cash or credit without having to deal with looking up values, ebay, selling fees, taxes, etc. Gamestop offers that service and plenty of people take them up on that offer because of their (many) locations and current gen inventory. Probably half the people on this channel from the 80s/90s probably had the majority of their gaming collection thrown away at the dump because empty-nester mom wanted that room for storing yarn or something after we went to college and didn't give a sheet about some old Atari or NES games.... because Halo and Goldeneye was so much cooler! Then come to find out years later that Power Blade 2 was actually worth some cash but all we told mom to keep was an old beat up Zelda game and Mario Bros 3 worth $15 (sadly, a true story)
To be fair, they offer good trade value compared to what they sell the item for That said most retro games are not worth it to sell to gamestop vecause they sell them for so cheap. Great place to sell a wii sports or a modern game Also you should've put how much gs sells the games for compared to how much credit they give.
I've never been to any retro game store that doesn't give at least 50% in trade value. Use emerald for example. Gamestop sells it for $55, and will give you $11 (20%). Literally any retro game store at 50% trade, 25% cash (which is low for cash) would give you at least $100 trade or $50 cash. I don't see where they give "Good trade value" 😂
In the UK, CEX has become the defacto place to trade in old games. They're hit or miss from my experience, but at least they list CIB, boxed with no manual and loose for cartridge games. The percentages vary pretty wildly by game, but taking CIB Pokemon Crystal as an example, cash is 63% and trade credit is 73% compared to PriceCharting value, way better than what GameStop offers. 😅
Two things you should have done. Calculate the value of your stuff loose as well. Yes I understand it’s CIB but because GameStop pays the same to be fair you should show the value as loose. Also you should show what your store would pay for the game in loose as well. That would really show accurately how bad they are
@@adequatejtm7371 while both of those ideas might be fun, they would kind of defeat the purpose of the video, which was to show how much my personal Pokémon collection is worth at Gamestop. If I only calculated part of my collection, or compared it to the trade or cash value at my own store, that would change the video completely. I don’t want the videos on this channel to be about my store. That’s what the Double Jump channel is for lol
Guess what Coop!? Video games, including retro games are unfortunately going the way of the Buffalo!! And, I like you as a person, but you definitely rely too much on being a video game store owner, but unfortunately I can bet my retirement money, that your going to STRUGGLE to keep your store open after 5 more years. I wish it wasn't true myself, but it's so obviously true. I'm older than you are, and I love physical media myself, but you're going to have to find a new way to make a living. And, quit telling people to hold onto stuff, it's starting to plummet for real reasons. Nobody is going to keep buying this shit for much longer!?
I 100% disagree. People said the same stuff 10 years ago, and retro gaming and collecting has only gotten more and more popular. Companies release retro style products like the NES and SNES classic because they know people love the older games, and I don't see that changing any time soon. People will be interested in retro gaming for decades to come, and as soon as it becomes a little cheaper, even more people will get into it.
Is based off of supply and demand. Which controls the value of basically all goods and services. These also aren’t just games anymore people collect them. So they have become collectors items.
Is this actually a question because if so then you are watching the wrong channel and you apparently don't understand BASIC rules of capitalism and supply demand or collecting. Here's your thought process....that 57 Chevy bel air is old why isn't it $100....good god
I bought a copy of fire red for $50 at GameStop. Might’ve been the best deal I got
If you really wanted to be transparent, at the end of the video you should display the value DJVG would pay for the same games vs price charting vs GS ( mild suggestion )
I won't speak for Cooper, but as a fellow game store owner, I don't give out that information. It's not because I'm trying to be secretive and plan to low ball you in person or something. One of the main reasons is that I need to see the exact item you wish to sell to know what I can actually offer. Stores like GameStop don't care in the slightest about condition or completeness (which hurts the customer in the long run), but many retro game stores will adjust their offers and pricing accordingly. You also can't break down your buy-values ahead of time by those factors, since most people's understanding of "good condition" or "CIB" varies. Also, in Cooper's case, someone might watch this video a couple months from now, and the offers could be completely different just purely based on the constant fluctuation of the prices. Personally, I just don't want to give out any false expectations to my customers. If you want to sell your games, you have to bring them into the store and I will go through everything, test what I need to, and make you an offer.
@@MrNicholas7 That's the thing though, he knows the EXACT condition of the items in his collection, so if he wanted he could throw out a number that if someone that could be assumed to be a "known regular" came in to the store with that exact collection in that exact condition. So yea, the value will change over time, but as of EOY 2024, he showed the price charting value and what Gamestop website would offer, so a DJVG trade in credit value would be an INTERESTING number to have in this video. It's not about false expectations, because literally no one probably has a collection of Sic's calibur, so he could inflate it a little bit, but at least give us an idea of how much DJVG is BETTER than Gamestop, rather than just "I guarentee any retro video game store will give you more than gamestop" ... $1 more? or like... an actual number more.... Just about transparency, who knows maybe then Retro Rick will throw out a video saying he's pay WAY MORE THAN DJVG and we can get that spicy youtube drama going.
This video isn’t about my store though, so that thought never even crossed my mind.
@@SicCooperOfficial It did cross you mind since you said at 29:19 that "every other retro video game store would be able to beat gamestop". But anyways, you already replied to another comment DJVG would be between 60 and 80%. So PC value = 7.8k, GS value = 1.2k, GS cash = 0.85, DJVG value @ 70% = 5.5k. Of course if you wanted to be apples to apples with Gamestop not caring if it was CIB, you'd list the PC value as LOOSE only, but that would be nit picking and probably didn't cross your mind to be that thorough.
Edit: and since DJ doesn't use PC for reals for reals, lets just put a 33% bump to the PC value for "condition" across the board since that is a pretty sweet collection in better than PC CIB value truly.
@@WaltHeisenberg-b4hyou're probably joking about the YT drama (I hope), but retro rick's and djvg are in two different markets, with different offerings and different market fluctuations. It would serve as (useless, as usual) drama and nothing more
Pokémon Arceus at my local GameStop brand new is $60, pre owned is $54.99 without the original cover art. I laughed as I walked out of the store 🤣
I think it’s been shown for decades now that GameStop does not want to work with 50% margins. They want to make 70-80% profit on anything they take in. The prices they take them in may be low but the prices they sell them at are just good enough that it’ll almost always be instant sellouts when they get them in. They’re always out of stock online because resellers also buy them in hopes of getting complete copies (for something like gamecube) and making profit reselling it. If it’s a loose copy then it’s just an easy return to a local store. As much as it sucks that people sell it for cheap, no one forces them to do that and collectors like me get lucky later on like when I got my copy of emerald for $60 from GameStop last year before they raised prices on it.
Pretty sure even if you give them the box they throw them out anyway for cartridges. Only thing they keep is if it has a CD case style box.
Why would you expect to get price charting values at GameStop for 15 plus year old games?
They’re basing everything off of suggested market retail and not collector value.
Please trade in your Pokemon games to Gamestop. Last Friday I picked up FireRed at my local GS for only $55. Side note, they also had Jurassic Park for SNES $53.
Man I haven’t traded anything into GameStop since Obama was President lol. GameStop has been lost the plot
This is a thing gamestop does. When they are out of stock of the item, they will lower the price of then, so when they get it traded in, the trade in price is much lower and when they got a stock of them in they raise the price closer to retail
price on retro is nuts now here in UK I saw Pokemon Yellow on gameboy for £150...crazy. I guess games are to us the same way antiques are to our parents. I kinda wish when I worked in a videogame store in early 2000's that I bought as many games as I could and kept them sealed.
I don’t have any experience selling retro games at GameStop but I have had sold modern games and consoles before and I have gotten more back than what was told on the site before. I don’t know if it was because of the condition and or I had everything that came with the console or game or maybe it was the employee that I was working with. GameStop is not the place to sell retro games period. They don’t even check if the game is legit or not.
What a jaw dropping collection... thats crazy.
Is there a complimentary bottle of Gamestop branded lube when you do a trade in on these?
Hey Cooper, could you do a video showing various ways to identify fake Pokemon games? Not just loose copies but maybe fake boxes as well?
When you got to emerald i had to pause....at 2nd chance i cant even keep pokemon in stock. We pay 50% or more depending on condition and they sell basically as I'm trying to buy them. Ive even sold a copy of crystal that had the label pealed off and i asked an employee to draw it back on. Im cool with gamestop employees and even network with a few in my area try to help customers find what theyre looking for if we dont have it but......oh my gawdddd. Thats some evil reseller stuff. Team rocket would approve.
I heard they offer ridiculously low prices on all their grail / high priced retro cartridge-based games to discourage customers from trading in repros since its not feasible to (and they don't want to invest in) training their entire staff to spot fakes. They also sell them for below market value because they know a good percentage of the ones they are selling could be repros as well. As an example they are currently offering $26.95 cash / $38.50 credit (for PRO members) for Chrono Trigger which they sell for $99.99. It's currently $209.99 (loose) on price charting.
I'll give you tree fidy.
I am a massive pokemon fan and I have every Pokemon game big box special edition cib, every Pokemon console and handheld cib and even Japan versions that the United States never seen. I love pokemon
I don't understand why would GameStop fire someone because a customer of wanted to bring a camera and asked how much he's getting for his video games GameStop have so many made of rules and they be on some shit because I hang out and study them a lot
I got a minty Pokémon Emerald @ GameStop for $56 1 month ago - my jaw dropped when i saw it in their case.. Funny thing is Pokémon BLACK sells @ GS for $80+
& YES its authentic -
Really cool video dude, you're gonna blow up nex̌t year.
My nostalgia for Pokemon games ended with Diamond and Pearl basically so I've never been able to really get into any Pokemon games after that point. I got a flashcart for $8 with 208 ds games on it which include all those other Pokemon games but even then I've tried Pokemon White and played it for a little I'm at like the 3rd Gym maybe 4th but it just doesn't feel the same to me because many of the Pokemon I have no idea who they are... I think I would enjoy Soul Silver or Heart Gold more because I did play crystal version a few times and I at least know those Pokemon but I really loved emerald and saphire growing up so I've been thinking about trying Alpha Saphire.
I basically own every pokemon game from the original game boy up to diamond and pearl besides Ruby so that's where my Nostalgia is for me.
Nice video. Out of curiosity, what percentage of PriceCharting does that place GameStop at for their offer?
And what percentage of PriceCharting does your store offer? (I’m assuming it’s in the ballpark of 40-70% of PC?)
On a collection like this, we would definitely be in the 60 to 80% range, but more common stuff definitely can get down to that 30 or 40% range sometimes.
Gamestop’s cash offer is just under 11% for this collection
Do you have Pokémon cards collection if so would try looking that up spread sheet for game stop see what is worth trading in stores cards I wonder what value on cards would be less too at GameStop
Thing is…GameStop is known to take those famous reproduction (fakes) cartridges for Pokemon. Have seen both in GameStop stores. Actually purchased an authentic Yellow GB version during Covid. Had the number punch in label and battery. This was from my local store. A GameStop I’ve been in NYC on the other hand had a bunch of GBA fakes as no number punch in the labels, and you could tell the plastic looked cheep too. Told employee you know those are fake right? He said yes he knows they are fake but are to still take them hence why they sell Pokemon games way below Price Charting, as average consumer can’t tell and they just want to play the game and don’t care.
Daaang bro, love the high effort on this one! Background changes, b-roll, j-cuts, tight script, you really outdid yourself here!
No script!! Thanks man :)
I think the market is about to "adjust" pretty drastically.
while i understand you have complete games, for the sake of additional comparison, you should have also run the simulation with least complete acceptable games (aka cartridge only versions). Just for the sake of fairness.
But the point of the video is how much MY collection is worth at Gamestop, so thats what we looked at.
And even more since price charting at time struggles with certain nuances. (for example seller will declare his game CIB even if it is missing a poster, as long as he has box and manual. And that poster can be additional price difference which price charting is not catching up)
Nice Lorna shore shirt! Also super jealous of some of that pokemon stuff you got!
Gamestop isn't that bad as a buyer, you just got to visit enough stores and ask enough times to see retro to get authentic copies for a deal. Or roll the dice and order them online when they get int stock. I got CIB Heartgold, Plat, all the 3DS titles and a handful of the DS rangers between 2020 and 2022 from just asking to see the retro stock. During B2G1 online, scored a lot of loose copies of the Gameboy titles including an autherntic Emerald / Sapphire / Crystal along with the more common R/B/Y. Hit rate 90% authentic, the other 10 had to return in person instore. But yea, if you know the value don't trade in. duh.
Makes you wonder who is selling them the games, that said the prices are amazing if the copies are legit copies when they get them in. To me the credit values is fair compared to what they sell em for but not compared to the actual worth of the item.
@@superj2644 Its the same people all the resellers at yard sales and flea markets and facebook market place refreshers are looking for - normal people who just want to clear space in their attic / garage and really don't care how much an item is worth if they can just get some cash or credit without having to deal with looking up values, ebay, selling fees, taxes, etc. Gamestop offers that service and plenty of people take them up on that offer because of their (many) locations and current gen inventory. Probably half the people on this channel from the 80s/90s probably had the majority of their gaming collection thrown away at the dump because empty-nester mom wanted that room for storing yarn or something after we went to college and didn't give a sheet about some old Atari or NES games.... because Halo and Goldeneye was so much cooler! Then come to find out years later that Power Blade 2 was actually worth some cash but all we told mom to keep was an old beat up Zelda game and Mario Bros 3 worth $15 (sadly, a true story)
To be fair, they offer good trade value compared to what they sell the item for
That said most retro games are not worth it to sell to gamestop vecause they sell them for so cheap. Great place to sell a wii sports or a modern game
Also you should've put how much gs sells the games for compared to how much credit they give.
I've never been to any retro game store that doesn't give at least 50% in trade value.
Use emerald for example. Gamestop sells it for $55, and will give you $11 (20%). Literally any retro game store at 50% trade, 25% cash (which is low for cash) would give you at least $100 trade or $50 cash.
I don't see where they give "Good trade value" 😂
Great info!
Pokémon is for your sister pal
I curious u should do it
Did they make Pokémon games for Nintendo family computer Nintendo super family computer Nintendo virtual boy
No offense but you’re obviously gonna pay more at your store then GameStop would…they’ve got thousands of employees and more bills then you have…
And they have hundreds of locations. It’s all relative
In the UK, CEX has become the defacto place to trade in old games. They're hit or miss from my experience, but at least they list CIB, boxed with no manual and loose for cartridge games. The percentages vary pretty wildly by game, but taking CIB Pokemon Crystal as an example, cash is 63% and trade credit is 73% compared to PriceCharting value, way better than what GameStop offers. 😅
Two things you should have done. Calculate the value of your stuff loose as well. Yes I understand it’s CIB but because GameStop pays the same to be fair you should show the value as loose. Also you should show what your store would pay for the game in loose as well. That would really show accurately how bad they are
@@adequatejtm7371 while both of those ideas might be fun, they would kind of defeat the purpose of the video, which was to show how much my personal Pokémon collection is worth at Gamestop. If I only calculated part of my collection, or compared it to the trade or cash value at my own store, that would change the video completely. I don’t want the videos on this channel to be about my store. That’s what the Double Jump channel is for lol
Great Video!
Gamestop 😂😅
Guess what Coop!? Video games, including retro games are unfortunately going the way of the Buffalo!! And, I like you as a person, but you definitely rely too much on being a video game store owner, but unfortunately I can bet my retirement money, that your going to STRUGGLE to keep your store open after 5 more years. I wish it wasn't true myself, but it's so obviously true. I'm older than you are, and I love physical media myself, but you're going to have to find a new way to make a living. And, quit telling people to hold onto stuff, it's starting to plummet for real reasons. Nobody is going to keep buying this shit for much longer!?
I 100% disagree. People said the same stuff 10 years ago, and retro gaming and collecting has only gotten more and more popular. Companies release retro style products like the NES and SNES classic because they know people love the older games, and I don't see that changing any time soon. People will be interested in retro gaming for decades to come, and as soon as it becomes a little cheaper, even more people will get into it.
Give me more
No game should cost more than $100, especially old games. Nintendo 64 is old, why are games more than $5
Is based off of supply and demand. Which controls the value of basically all goods and services. These also aren’t just games anymore people collect them. So they have become collectors items.
Is this actually a question because if so then you are watching the wrong channel and you apparently don't understand BASIC rules of capitalism and supply demand or collecting. Here's your thought process....that 57 Chevy bel air is old why isn't it $100....good god
No coin, or stamp, or sport card should be more than a few dollars, especially old ones..... 🙄