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her, saying '' it's so hard to be a female producer '' as kind of an excuse, is a slap in every honest female producers face.....I say: GUILTY
I agree! There's no-one pushing female producers down, and they are as equally competent as male producers. She clearly just doesn't wanna put in the work to make her own original tracks.
Absolute bs for her to pull that card. Put the work in and pay your dues. She clearly wanted the spotlight without having to put the effort in. Now she has big artists on her side saying they don’t see a problem with it?? Wtf
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Yea I don't get why being female was brought up. If anything you think guys would want to sign her more 😅
It also makes her a victim...which is wack af because it takes away from the fact she was using demo shit
By far the worst part about this is her complete lack of accountability.
@@PAXXXMAYNE wtf does her physical appearance have to do with anything?? Go kick rocks.
Women gonna women
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She needs to change her stage name to NotYo Music
Hahaha
I once looked at my SC analytics and noticed I had one individual with so many listens I felt like here is a true fan. As I listened to their tracks 5 tracks were completely ripped from my SC page and one had been released in a record label in Italy. After a number of emails and copyright reports I was able to clean up the mess but I no longer make my newest tracks public because of this. What a shame.
i feel like im stealing if i use a bass drum from some one else sample pack even after i purchase it when i use it in one of my songs. This takes it to another level.
glad it's not just me lol
@IGotTheVaccine. OK 🤡 not like you can produce a track with a one shot note anyway. I couldn't "produce" and make it into a melody of your own with a variety of notes instead of a one shot noise like a snare hit. You think every producer out there records there own snares and bass drums 100% or the time or do they have a collection of royalty free or royalty shared once bought. one shots that anyone can then "produce" with.
Tho since I learned this tip from such a legend 🙌 I'll bust out my fostex 8 track recorder and toss ableton out the window.
Hmm I never really understood this... I play guitar and I've never heard of anyone say guitarists are less valid at their craft bc they don't build the guitars themselves or customize them. The fact that people could feel guilty for basically just using an existing instrument is weird to me
@@Sergio-nb4hj I feel like it’s a mentality that only derived from those who don’t actually produce music for artists, rather are just doing this as a hobby. People use samples and presets everywhere, sometimes exclusively.
@@737simviator this is literally the most retarded statement ever made, like seriously stop smoking crack.
“It’s because I’m a woman”…. Look at Jessica Audrifred … she’s a dubstep artist that actually mixes and makes her own tracks.
This was perfectly put. I’m just so mad because I’ve been working on music since I was 15 and I get questioned all the time to the point I made it my mission to sound design on twitch with timed producer challenges to prove I produce. I’m sitting here 300 tracks deep they are all awful and then I’m like cool girls that are making it but this stuff makes it harder for the girls like me that have been putting in the work for years no short cuts. I appreciate this a lot and I hope we can find more female artists that are actually putting in the work.
post a link to your music! i couldnt find anything on your channel :(
wishing u the best of luck! just remember the more u keep producing the better u get so keep going
What gets me is the "apology", where they say they're taking accountability but they don't even mention what they're taking accountability for. "Sorry for using too many samples & loops", how passive aggressive is that??? LMAO, nobody has a big issue with that, it's such a disingenuous framing of what they were called out on.
She played the woman card hahahahah unbelievable.
As a 50 yo dude that tihS makes me laugh !!! 30 years ago one could get away, nowadays it's impossible, why even try ?
how do people think they can get away with doing this 😂😂
This is what a lack of self awareness and a lack of accountability looks like. "It's hard being a female producer" and "my truth". Boosting someone else's work doesn't care about your gender or your particular brand of "truth".
This a righteous work you're doing here sir. I liken this to those computer hacker type guys who go looking for those scam artists online working in call centres.😁
Thank you for covering this
Thanks for speaking on this 🙌
I'm a woman here and I do everything from scratch with love and don't steal
If you practice and work hard, someone might use 4 bars of your drop in a cool slow motion entrance from a big Hollywood movie!
Congratulations, you’ve made it!
Art has so much value
Been waiting for this all day 😂
She claims it's harder to be a women, but the fact is, if she was a man, not a single person would be defending her
facts.
Exactly! I’m seriously questioning the integrity of EPROM and Of the Trees rn 🤦♂️
Facts
I just come across your videos and very informative in a entertaining way man. I’ll sub too as got to support the fellowship of producers.
This video is what I think is going to happen to me when I sample a hi hat.
weaver always opens his videos with gut buster jokes gotta love his humor
Damn this is sad because on the 4th of July 2021 I went to a rave (dnb/dubstep/uptempo) on top of a parking garage in LA and saw NotLö perform behind the decks and hung out with her for a while behind the stage and she was super kind, humble and friendly and gave me a NotLo keychain. Seriously tho what an amazing night, I even bought medicinal shrooms from a vendor on top of the parking garage that I didn't even eat and gave them to someone who I knew was having a rough day instead
Medical shrooms on a rave for someone with a rough day. You can't make this shit up.
@@chf4486 Medicinal* Shrooms lol. I'm 100% serious though, I'll post footage of it soon. I have a few other crazy jungle parties I'm probably gonna post first though
her response def made it worse, but the sample isn't the issue, it's the blatant copying of the entire demo track. I thought this was going to be a Pvlace / Gunboi type situation but you really can't stop people from being uncreative and boring with premade music. But for her, being signed and saying she's "still learning" lmfao learning to make original music? like god damn, and I hate that she used the woman card. I'm a woman and I know not to rip people off. I'm just extra salty because I recently had someone steal my beats and sell/publish them as their own work. These types of people have no self respect lol like how do you look at yourself and say "I'm a producer" after that kind of shit.
My bro runs a label she was on, removed all her shit on his label so quick. Was an absolute sh!tstorm for him. The label was catching shade over it, but why would you EVER think to check if the tunes are original?
The gloves at the beginning had me 😄
I saw this in the morning & I still can’t believe that someone would, not only try to pull this kinda crap but almost got away with it too! :/
great video bro, hopefully she learned from this
The most difficult thing for me is how much of an absolute banger Remainder is. It's done stuff to everyone I've ever shown it to. That bothers me so much. The warping bass of that track is just incredible.
Big up the sample designers eh
She must have used a very good sample pack ❤ the original designers are still very talented people. Scum like this only exists in music scenes that care about money not culture.
That is very good 😊
That producer has no tegridy
Danm, I used to run a label called BLC and had many great submissions by Notlo in which we heard variations and changes in each copy. Sad to see someone who was very capable taking the easy route and stealing. super bummer
weaver beats unison audio sample pack! peak analog warmth guaranteed!
there are plenty of women in the bass space, who are amazing at what they do. take layz for example. she’s growing in popularity because she has her own spin on a specific dubstep genre.
EVA808 has made some proper bangers.
I don’t want to get anything on my hands. Definitely the right way to open.
they'll only get so far , it will sort it self out
Don’t drink every time he says sample pack!!! Great perspective
I like what this video discuss because that fascinates me. people stealing!
Such a disgrace. She needs to end her career. Period.
The biggest issue with all of it truly comes down to the fact she addresses what she did wrong, BUT acts like this is something she USED to do. One of these tracks is 6 months old like… that right there is why she’s lost so much respect. She’s literally lying.
Lol never thought a signed producer would do this 😂
reminds me of the Caked Up situation like 8 years ago
DEFENTLY GOILTY!! :)
I like how eprom started excusing her and saying that digital artists do this all the time with templates... If she just used some samples (a lot of us do, I do it myself, it's not something that shameful if you do it ok) I don't think anyone would've sayed something to her, but using full drop loops is not ok... And playing the victim afterwards that you are a woman and its hard it's also not ok, there are a lot of female artists who can produce unique stuff, this subject doesn't have anything to do with their sex.
Also there are a lot of artists doing this, Iphaze, Carvar & Clock did this with the track Miskatonik and I had another example but it slips my mind now... Sometimes I really don't understand why even some talented producers do this shit..
Oh yeah, Ozma - Acces Code is the same thing, I really love his other productions and I hope his other stuff is unique, but Acces Code the drop is just a loop from a pack, I forgot which one but I will check, he didn't do much to it, just chopped it a bit and he applied a different eq and some fx to mix it in the track.
She just gave every woman trying to make in the edm industry a very bad look. They already had it tough lol
That was the most none apology I've ever seen hahaha wtf
Yeah I’m not paying for sample packs these days ngl.
the "woman" thing was so unbelievably bullshit as a woman myself, idk i dont feel like im held back in any way for that
she doin' all dope female producers a disservice, like focus on making the music better not your gender lmaooo
Massive Audacity. Damn. 😮
Some sample packs come with fully loaded construction kits, so I get how it sounded like very small tweaks, kuz she could have just used the bass stem and added her own drums or Similar ones. But if u not gonna full on cut the sample up and redress it, at least change the pitch or something, throw a mince and hack on it lol. Something! Lol
mince and hack?
@@richardwattior It's a stutter effect that comes with a pack on ableton suite. Bad ass too if I might say
Awesome! show me the gold! gimme the gold! i want the gold!
Completely delusional. Most 'producers' these days can't even tell major from minor, much less play an actual instrument on a beginner level.
@@lardavmercy7584 What do you think?
This practice is rampant in the videogame world. A lot of asset stores sell "skeleton of a game" kind of projects that are intended to be used as the foundation for your own game: they have some basic mechanics implemented and a level or two to show them off. Unfortunately, quite a few people buy such a project, change a few things (name that is shown in the menu, logo and stuff like that) and then release them on Steam as their own game. Legally there's nothing wrong with it. The license agreement doesn't specify how much you have to change to claim the game as your own creation. However, having a bunch of identical games that can barely be called such clogging up Steam store is really annoying.
Those disclaimers work everytime, we all know that.....
I see it coming, eventually you won't be able tell ppl you produce and play pre made music, mofos gonna start asking producers to cookup on the spot lol. "Nah homie, don't show me yo beats, cookup from scratch homie!"🤦🏾♂️😂
lol lemme cop that pack sir
The more I watch your vids the more I like them. Not sure it’s the same effect as when you listen to a shitty song over and over again until it sounds good, but
I like m.
The redbar of music
As AI progress more I feel like there's gonna be a whole fucking lotta stolen beats popping up and being realized. The amount of tutorials on YT I've seen that stole loops or midi from popular songs is insane. I don't make the best beats ever but at least my shit all og 🤷♂️
the fucking reverb on 'woman'
Stealing music is stealing music - whether you can be sued for it is besides the point. She took something that wasn't hers, said it was hers, and got paid for it. That's stealing.
NotLo="Night of the Living Onion."
I produce house music, and have downloaded sample packs in the past.
I’ll still occasionally use a small part of a drum loop, layered with other stuff, but I’d always thought the melodic stuff in packs was shit.
Make the parts yourself if you’re planning to release tracks.
I'm currently at 3:54 in the video. I'm wondering if there's a possibility that by using these sounds from the sample pack so directly, other people who use them in a more "ethical way" might be mistakenly tagged for copyright infringement? Come to think of it, it seems like a risk with using any sample longer than one second in a track.
royalty free samples, no infringements
It really lets you know what time we live in where someone can make a career by just playing Legos.
What’s even more telling is she can totally just keep doing it. She’s not breaking any laws and dubstep fans are too vapid to even give a shit as long as you come pretend to DJ at a show.
i don't mind if people use sample packs i use them sometimes (i do try and chop the samples up and make em more unique tho) but all cool there! but when you just take a whole demo song and copy and paste it that is not ok. also who has never heard a demo track for sample packs i have never heard of someone that just buys random sample packs unless its for a challange or something like that
Unbelievable… i remember some producer stole mick gordon samples and altered them a little bit and tried to sell them on splice… can‘t remember the name right now… we live in a copy and paste world… or better rob and steal world… fuck this shit… create and do your own music damnit 😅
Damn bro how tf do you find these lol
terminally online
Alotta packs come with construction kits or project files. thats what she ripped, coulda just apologized and took her L smh
Maybe a case could be made to write, compose and arrange your own songs and instruments instead of samples?
"It's so much harder being a woman," No, it's so much easier. You can easily see this by how many dudes were giving her a pass for blatant copying. She is taking zero accountability for her actions and trying to play the victim.
hahaha dude i love your videos
We are giving a thief sooo much free promo...
i cannot believe that wakaan did not check these.. i actually like this label
I know Jack. I'm going to guess that he feels like it's better to give a non-answer rather than risk the blowback for slamming a woman even if she is in the wrong due to how unreasonable people seem to be these days
And I thought why deadbeats A&R haven’t checked my music? Comes out should’ve been sample pack demo Lmaoo
I want my WAKAAN release dude
i’d have believed she uploaded old tracks and forgot they were sample tracks she played on..
no shame in that response lmao
This is hilarious!!! I use ghost syndicate samples from time to time and I swear I had heard that song before when I heard her track. Mystery solved.
And then on top of it pull out every excuse in the book...hard for female producers, trying to emulate other artists sounds, it's jussst sampling and was using racks...etc. it's hard for anyone breaking into the game. Everyone here probably does the same as me...smash your head against the keyboard when everything youre writing sounds like shit. Still never had a thought of doin some shit like this. Just goes to show the level some people will go to. It's not like she didn't profit from it and the fact that other producers are justifying it. I bet if I went and ripped one of ternion sounds tracks and labeled it as my own they would be putting me on blast...or maybe they have a sample pack demo I can grab real quick 🤣🤣
Nailed it. this is how I feel about the entire situation. It’s not even that hard to chop up/ manipulate a loop if you have said 4 years of experience but idk man I think she just didn’t expect to be caught or something
The re-released tracks sound rendered directly to mp3 128. Seems like bad rendering more than “tweaking “.
The difference with the Steven Angello situation is/was that Vengance makes loop packs and he took a loop as it was and added drums and arranged it and so forth, he didn't steal an already made song and put it out as his, altough I admit that the melody in his song "KNAS" is the standout thing and that melody was not made by him (Steve Angello) but he paid for the loop pack, to use as he sees fit, Vengance whole business model is to make loops for other people to use.
I mean if I buy a loop pack and I like a loop straight up as it is and take said loop, put drums on it, maybe chop the loop up to fit my beat/song, put some other instruments on the beat/song, I don't consider that stealing because the whole point of the loop pack is to get loops to use for your project, you paid for them and if you like a loop and think it's perfect without changing it then that's great in my opionen.
The producer you are talking about in your video took everything, not just a bass/melody loop, she maybe even took the demo template, and released it as her own without adding her own drums, arrangement or nothing so that is straight up stealing, the only thing I could hear was that she slowed down the song with 3-5 bpm or so.
Guilty
sample packs are a mistake.
alot of producers wouldnt be doing that good if it wasnt for sampple packs and im not talking bout the people who use them
It’s even good it sounds like a goose farting n the fog
Sampleception~
The leafy intro
And I already feel guilty using some preset synth sounds so I almost always alter them. And then there are these people having the audacity to use whole samples packs lol. wtf. not sure if bold move or just foolish af.
damn im a big fan of notlo im only 1min in
more importantly, why was regular show trending on twitter? some news i missed?
aren't these sample packs meant to be used to make track? I'm just wondering what's the threshold for using samples or stems.. bit of the devils advocate but, hear me out, so you buy a sample pack, drum kits, leads, bass samples, some stems, synth patches the works.. how much or how little tweaking is acceptable? ust a thought
not to copy paste the entire demo track, tf
@@Weaverbeatsalright after listening to some of it, most are gone it seems, or I just couldn't find the post.. anyway, you're right it's the laziest shit I've seen in a while.. regardless though I still think its a legit question, it doesn't apply in her case, that's just plagiarism.. love your vids by the way, cheers
You are supposed to make your own track with the samples. Not copy and paste the demo. She bought a sample pack and instead of using the samples, she used the demo and pretended that she made it. She is an artist, but a con artist.
"It's so hard to be a female producer"
Alison Wonderland, Krewella, Dino Shadix, MAIA, and more: "It smells like bitch in here!"
and literally none of them actually produce
0:08
We listening to grime
Lol I doubt that guy would be defending so hard if it was a man
Thievery 😂
she was just sampling 💀
oh you can definitely be sued for stuff like this. As soon as a track is recorded and released it's thereby protected by copyright law, regardless of whether 1 or 1 million people have listened to it
I dunno, 4 yr producer signed with label, uses samples, still learning, made their own samples and is now trying to sell lessons? I bet this is the new norm for dubstep 😎
It's all lies while trying to play the victim. It's disgusting behavior when you really look at it.
IVE LOST RESPECT FOR ANY ARTIST DEFENDING HER
Imagine being good enough to be signed by a label and then ripping demo samples for easy money 💀
Anybody know if it’s cool to play out the sample pack songs if the dj doesn’t claim them at the set?
I think it’s fine to play in a DJ set. What this girl did was try and claim that she wrote the song.
@@Trapphausmusic yea I’m a lil sad trees co-signed this fuckery
@@Jhizzle473 yeah turns out all the artists who defended her have the same manager: eprom,100tree,mr bill, of the tree, & more. Pathetic all the people defending using a sample pack demo as your own.