Iggor Cavalera (Cavalera Conspiracy, Petbrick, Mixhell) & Aaron Spectre (Drumcorps) Interview

Drummer Iggor Cavalera and electronic artist Aaron Spectre (Drumcorps) discuss the soulful nature of drums, creativity, extreme music, why music the ethos and energy of industrial, hardcore and electronic music, the status of Iggor’s many projects (Cavalera Conspiracy, Petbrick, Mixhell, et al), the decision he made when he left Sepultura to only make music with people he loves and lots more.
INTERVIEW CONTENT GUIDE:
00:00 Welcome to The Void
00:55 Live drums as the instrument that speaks to Iggor’s soul
03:29 Iggor on Aaron’s live drum sound, programmed with human energy
04:52 How Iggor found Drumcorps & their relationship
11:02 Getting starstruck meeting John Carpenter
12:25 Making cinematic music that makes you trip without drugs
13:57 Expending energy with aggressive music, for chill
14:42 Making music with Iggor’s brother Max in Cavalera Conspiracy
16:44 Max’s diverse musical taste and passion for research (and dub)
18:31 Iggor’s new spoken word mixtape with an all-star cast of speakers
19:51 The power of women, Laima and the “Sisters with Transistors” film
21:44 The origin story of Iggor and Laima’s project, Mixhell
23:26 Aaron feeling constrained by dance music
24:34 Do people digest the complex ideas of Sepultura lyrics & why Iggor can’t relate to Metallica
26:16 How you can’t control the gap between your intentions and the way music is received and dealing with Nazis
28:24 The connection between the Black Flag reunion show in London and Iggor’s decision to embark on the “Return to Roots” tour
31:00 Aaron’s new EP “Better Days” - engaging with the darkest reality whilst refusing to yield to cynicism, hardcore ethos
33:52 The intensity of Petbrick and the passionate reality of extreme music
38:02 The only reason Petbrick exists is because of Aaron
39:32 The Code Orange cutting room floor, too many tracks vs. minimalism
41:17 Soul music and escaping formulas; what Aaron and Iggor share
43:04 The contrasting worlds of hardcore and industrial music - Iggor’s experiences, then Aaron’s experiences, from a DRI tape on the playground to his new life as a one man hardcore band
48:44 Stage diving and the urge to take care of each other, Boston hardcore shows
52:45 Iggor’s charity work in Uganda and Palestine with “In Place of War”
54:35 The tools to have a voice & post-capitalism with Aaron
57:24 Aaron’s anonymous letter from Iraq that he carries with him
1:00:50 Iggor tape trading with Norway
1:03:15 Mixing metal to sound different
1:00:05 At the end of Sepultura, Iggor’s decision to only make music with people he loves
1:09:52 Bill Ward, Black Sabbath and Stewart Copeland and other life-changing drummers and why drums should be treated with the same reverence as guitar riffs. They are riffs.
1:11:02 Cult Leader and how the drums lead the guitars (which become a percussive element)
1:14:45 Iggor’s dream collaboration: Aphex Twin

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INTERVIEW CONTENT GUIDE:
00:00 Welcome to The Void
00:55 Live drums as the instrument that speaks to Iggor’s soul
03:29 Iggor on Aaron’s live drum sound, programmed with human energy
04:52 How Iggor found Drumcorps & their relationship
11:02 Getting starstruck meeting John Carpenter
12:25 Making cinematic music that makes you trip without drugs
13:57 Expending energy with aggressive music, for chill
14:42 Making music with Iggor’s brother Max in Cavalera Conspiracy
16:44 Max’s diverse musical taste and passion for research (and dub)
18:31 Iggor’s new spoken word mixtape with an all-star cast of speakers
19:51 The power of women, Laima and the “Sisters with Transistors” film
21:44 The origin story of Iggor and Laima’s project, Mixhell
23:26 Aaron feeling constrained by dance music
24:34 Do people digest the complex ideas of Sepultura lyrics & why Iggor can’t relate to Metallica
26:16 How you can’t control the gap between your intentions and the way music is received and dealing with Nazis
28:24 The connection between the Black Flag reunion show in London and Iggor’s decision to embark on the “Return to Roots” tour
31:00 Aaron’s new EP “Better Days” - engaging with the darkest reality whilst refusing to yield to cynicism, hardcore ethos
33:52 The intensity of Petbrick and the passionate reality of extreme music
38:02 The only reason Petbrick exists is because of Aaron
39:32 The Code Orange cutting room floor, too many tracks vs. minimalism
41:17 Soul music and escaping formulas; what Aaron and Iggor share
43:04 The contrasting worlds of hardcore and industrial music - Iggor’s experiences, then Aaron’s experiences, from a DRI tape on the playground to his new life as a one man hardcore band
48:44 Stage diving and the urge to take care of each other, Boston hardcore shows
52:45 Iggor’s charity work in Uganda and Palestine with “In Place of War”
54:35 The tools to have a voice & post-capitalism with Aaron
57:24 Aaron’s anonymous letter from Iraq that he carries with him
1:00:50 Iggor tape trading with Norway
1:03:15 Mixing metal to sound different
1:00:05 At the end of Sepultura, Iggor’s decision to only make music with people he loves
1:09:52 Bill Ward, Black Sabbath and Stewart Copeland and other life-changing drummers and why drums should be treated with the same reverence as guitar riffs. They are riffs.
1:11:02 Cult Leader and how the drums lead the guitars (which become a percussive element)
1:14:45 Iggor’s dream collaboration: Aphex Twin

[@oleksandrapuzan]

Aaron is the beast! both of these guys are great. the amount of talent on this episode is beyond. nice to see Aaron here again

[@christopherk111]

thats really fucking strange,,and really fucking surprising to hear Iggor say he didnt listen to metallica,,,,amazing conversation once again,,thank you Christina !!!!

[@mihranbodromian]

I'm here because of Aaron! Excellent podcast. You just got a subscriber!

[@brunodomingues2625]

I saw Iggor and I give like! Cheers from Brazil!

[@Outsider214]

i started in 84 too

[@mihranbodromian]

You should try getting an interview with Igorrr. French artist who does crazy electronic metal fusion.

[@falcon12]

Napalm Death, Poison Idea, MIsfits, Sore Throat, O.L.D., Sepultra's Beneath the Remains, Slayer's SOuth of Heaven. Sabbat's Dreamweaver and 7 Seconds' The Crew, etc. were my biggest influences of Punk/Metal/Hardcore/Grindcore......

[@dillinguuur79]

Shit, I was looking for a Drumcorps remix and this popped u!! I forgot your short blonde hair!! Do you still do anything with this channel?

[@skimask5049]

long live dave brockie

[@transdutormusic]

My goooood... Igor and Aaron Spectre together? It´s a new kind of nuclear bomb??????????????? 🤣🤣🤣

[@mmmuscraft5558]

Aarón drinks Mate?!