It astounds me how Sam just drops this complete 5-minute bomb on the nature of the mind and does it so eloquently and they don't even engage him on it whatsoever.
Though I wish they all could have engaged with what he said more, I thought that it was absolutely fucking hilarious that joe just starts talking about "apps" immediately afterward.
I love how this Dan fella is trying as politely as possible to break it to Joe that tripping on pot cookies while taking a salt bath in the dark isn't meditation.🤣
@@leonardogeorgecarrai9476 The tank is a sensory deprivation tank which is a dark, soundproof tank filled with salt water, it is designed so there is no external stimulation when you are in it. Apparently being inside it is very relaxing and decreases anxiety and depression
I kinda saw Joes reaction of more like "he just shut up and let the guy talk" cause he sensed something good. Most interviewers would have interupted or interjected, shows his experience.
We gonna act like sam Harris mid video monologue wasn’t the most insightful and clear definition of the benefits of meditation and understanding the perceptive nature of the self
@@peekaygaikwad4117 actually I think that the whole purpose of his explanation was to help people with no experience gain a basic understanding of what meditation can do for you. That's usually the hardest part, explaining what it is and what it does. That was my issue for the longest time. People who didn't really know what it is were trying (and failing) to describe it to me, so it's benefits were lost on me. Also, why bother making an explanation that's intended for people who already know what it is. I think he did an excellent job.
@@MuhammadAliGOAT I think 10:40 is good, but watch the whole thing. It's not that long. I've been trying to meditate at least every day (my goal is 20 minutes after waking and 20 minutes before sleep), but it's probably been more like every other day lol. But that's fine, it's always a work in progress no matter where you are. It's for sure helped me deal with the whole shelter in place situation. Don't make it a chore or a thing to stress about though (you probably will at first but that's ok). The meditative state itself is as much the goal as all the benefits that result from it.
@@michaelfranciotti3900 thank you for your detailed reply, you should start off small though.. setting yourself 20 minutes becomes a chore.. start off for 1 minute and do that for a few weeks and then when you feel its not enough, spend longer and increase over time.. do you roll out of bed and meditate? because meditation is the same as prayer and sometimes I will roll out of bed into prayer (meditation) and I am still all hazy because my body is adjusting to the 'reality' I have now awoken back into and while my body is adjusting my thoughts, I am praying/meditating.. I don't know if this is more powerful than doing other things first, but I like to believe its when we are most connected to the source (also like to think if you have fasted all night and have not eaten, that the connection is more powerful and pure)
I've meditated for a few years and I'm not super articulate when I'm talking, usually only when writing but I don't think meditation has changed that. I'm only 23 so maybe in a decade or so, I swear people who are like 50 are always articulate and say what they mean.
@@ravishingravi started probably in 2015 or 2016, usually do it daily for 10 mins or so, or just spread out through the day in 20 second bursts of just bringing my attention to my breath and that's it. Sometimes I've gone a few months without doing anything so that's not great! Lol
Sam: *drops 5 solid minutes of enlightened dialogue about the mind, pain, suffering and the goals of meditation* Joe: "So, you guys have like, apps, right?"
@@Competitive_Antagonist It was my understanding that this is what Hindus, Buddhists, and other Eastern religions have been teaching for ages. I'm not any of those, so I'm not super sure myself.
@@Austin-on4zr This is what is bad about Sam Harris. Just because some old religion said it, doesn't make it true. Mindfulness is mostly just modernised relious teachings.
I Was never really open to the idea of meditation. Thought it was for weak people or something but after practicing it for a couple weeks Im noticing a huge difference in my ability to control my anger and block out a lot of negativity I encounter everyday. Thanks for the awesome conversation!
Meditation is not an easy thing to do as I imagine most would presume, once you attempt it it's really amazing how difficult it is to sit still and calm your mind from all the ambience of the day.
I used to cringe at the thought of meditation. But i also suffered depression, adhd and ptsd almost my whole life. Ive been doing it for almost a month, and i find myself not getting angry or depressed at the same shit anymore. Also ive gotten so much better sitting still. My adhd is slowly going away and im fuckin happy. Better memory, being able to sit still, being able to focus.
Sam's explanation was beautiful. Mindfulness lets you perceive thoughts as movements into consciousness in the same way that sounds or sights are. You perceive them as states of awareness, not as part of your identity, just like how you would feel with feeling the air against your skin. Once you disassociate yourself from your thoughts, you are able to experience reality in a way that is more observant, and your thinking becomes clearer and more purposeful. Meditation isn't some religious cult. It's just a reformation of the mind in a way that is more conducive towards one's psychological well being. I think everyone should give meditation a try. It's requires no money and very little time, and the effects are profound, as research has shown. I haven't even been at it that long and I've already begun to escape the grips of depression.
Nathanael you can find plenty of sadhus in some northern Shaivite hinduism that smoke copious amounts of ganja in their bhakti yoga practice (though plenty of other traditions within and without hinduism would oppose this). Even some sufis use ganja
I have/had severe debilitating OCD and have almost completely overcame it with mindfulness..... feel like I'm living in a completely different world now... have not felt so present in years and years...... I'm glad its helping with ur depression
I've been a regular meditator for more than 7 years. This is so great, there's so much distilled meditation wisdom in these 23 minutes. Completely worth rewatching this now and then to remind yourself of the basics
that thing Sam Harris said about pain makes so much sense. Maybe that's why you can't tickle yourself? within the conceptual framework, you know when you are going to stop, and so when the feeling stops. so you actually get no feeling at all. mad.
@@Nathan-tg4gu not necessarily true, if ur going to hurt urself most of the time you would think about two things: what action are you going to do? and at what intensity level? you can choose how intense the act is but not when the pain (physical and emotional) will stop, consequential pain as well is something to consider. The pain caused by the consequences of the action (for ex. parents divorce, someone you love died, etc.) versus an instantaneous feeling you have full control and ease to make stop
There's a very real stigma around meditation and mindfulness under the assumption that it does not equate to any REAL results or changes in one's life, and I know this because I once subscribed to this stigma. I can say 100%, though, that anyone contemplating the effectiveness of mindful meditation, or anyone who is contemplating giving it a try, should give it a try (and keep trying, because no one can pick up a guitar and instantly be a virtuoso). Given enough exposure and practice, I believe that anyone can reap its benefits (and there are many, hidden benefits). It's had a real, profound effect on me, and I'm still only a novice at it.
The example Sam explains about our interpretation of pain or the “framework” we put around pain is such a key concept to understand. For example, Goggins talks about how he used to let all his pain and suffering be his reason for being stuck at where he was at. And it wasn’t until he changed his framework around that pain to be a motivator that he changed his life. Perspective is key!
3:35 this happened to me when I was on lsd for the first time and it taught me how to stop being anxious. I seen myself acting out within myself, essentially actively attempting to change who I am, and how I do things
I simultaneously laughed and facepalmed at just the inelegance of that statement after such a powerful description of the key aspects of proper meditation
Mind wandering is one of the biggest stumbling blocks for people new to meditation. They keep thinking that they are failing at meditation because their mind keeps wandering. But this is a part of the process. The "Bicep Curl For Your Brain" idea is an excellent way of helping a new meditator realize that mind-wandering is an essential part of meditation, not a failure on their part.
"Gerbils are naturally found in the sandy plains of Africa, Asia and the Middle East. The gerbil was originally known as a desert rat until they were commercially introduced to North America and bred as pets. The gerbil is a small rodent, similar in many ways to by the mouse and the hamster." Googled it.
You ever heard of Myamoto Musashi. His philosophy when it came to fighting was to fight as if you were already dead, so that you can strike with zero inhibitions. The point being that if you do not fear death and accept it as if you already were dead, that you would fight to your fullest potential without fear. I believe it’s safe to say that he was enlightened.
@@TheRealHerbaSchmurba 'Brahman' means 'expansion', used to denote the way in which the Universe was created, to denote absolute reality, and to denote abiding joy. Joy feels like expansion. Maybe Brahman is where I was, the first time I had a breakthrough in meditation (by accident). It felt like my self expanding to fill the whole world, and joy growing in proportion. Everything I had lived until then was satisfied, there. I saw no reason to continue living in this world, except for the challenge to see if it was possible to live in the world and yet have that joy. After that time, I've learnt and have been thankful for much, but it seemed to me like it would not be a tragedy if I died. Everything after was like surplus time, a post-game. The life that sought justification ended there.
Yamikaiba123 hmm interesting. I know what you mean when you talk about dying, coming from a place of contentment. However it would be a crime not to share that joy with others. Kudos.
I love the awareness that Joe has brought to floating. I own a float spa in redondo beach and I can tell you Joe is correct in what he says, but floating can also allow for profound meditation which is what many of our members do and what he appears to allude to as one of his goals in the tank depending on what he is working on. Think of the tank as a powerful tool that can be used for various things. We have athletes go through visualizations and sequences, creatives exploring ideas and letting other ideas manifest from deep within, etc... and my favorite - pure unadulterated meditation. By reducing the distractions and external stimuli, meditation can be enhanced, especially for those who have limited meditative experience. To be able to learn how to dissociate from your ego, escape the pattern of compulsive thoughts and constant thinking, and access a larger collective consciousness is indescribably liberating. This intrinsic awareness that allows you to be interconnected and merge with anything and everything is truly profound. An infinite ocean of knowledge and deeper truth. Hope this helps and doesn't sound too woo woo! Find a float center and let go. Just be =)
In my experience and research personally, I've noticed a common ground in anyting from the East, that all say to meditate "on" something is a westernized assimilation of meditation. Although I'm sure it is useful just as Joe is explaining. But the Divide between Joe and Danny's perspective on meditation is just further evidence of the case
I like Sam Harris' friendly smirk starting at 6:10 when he inquires into whether Joe does drugs while floating. Like, Sam is a longtime friend of Joe's and already has a pretty good idea of what Joe does in the tank :)
Meditation is what/how Sam is describing. It is awareness of your being; awareness of your chattering self and thereby taking control of it; observing your chattering self going through its emotional tantrums; not blocking it or ignoring it; just knowing its there and gently ignoring its bidding's.
Once years ago, I was really struggling with sleep. I had been about two weeks with hardly any. I'd fall asleep and wake up shortly after, unable to go back to sleep. Well one night I'm at my gfs apt, which had good internet (this was back when not everyone had it, I didn't), and I decided to look up meditation. I spent the next 20-30 mins following a meditation guide on a website. It felt great, and afterwards I felt really good and finally relaxed. I laid down and kinda kept that mindset, soon falling asleep and I slept soundly the entire night. It was great. Ever since then I've really valued the impact of meditation, though I'm pretty inconsistent about doing it.
"The center of the bullseye is not suffering unnecessarily." Very good. For instance, going into an isolation tank for the first time while being high would be causing yourself to suffer unnecessarily.. The isolation tank speeds up the meditation process because we are trying to get past the five senses...the tank already does that for you...mostly...so don't go into that new unexplored territory high your first few times.... Nobody gives medals for stupidity. If you enjoy freaking or want to risk wondering on the side of the road homeless with an irreversible psychotic break...it's up to you. Be kind enough to yourself to build a solid foundation.
I meditated for 30 minutes and then saw this video to learn more... and now, the incorrect spelling of meditation on this 3 year old video is bugging me a little. Funnily enough to make a comment... that no one might ever read... hoping someone might read it and relate or... you know what? Have a good day.
I had an experience one time. It was the 1st time I meditated,and I felt like I was outside of my body,then it got bright. The light was a golden color. I suddenly started seeing people walking around me. I was sitting in the center of all this and they started looking at me. I panicked and opened my eyes. I could hear their voices,see their faces were clear. It scared the shit out of me. I do alot of guided sleep meditations now
Some of my best meditations have been while I’m high. That’s when your state of mind is at peace and it’s just easier to extend your energy out into your surroundings.
Did an iso tank last week..first time. All I can say is I ever run into money, I'm getting one. If I did a float once a day I would be an entirely different person. Did it once..I'm hooked. That's it.
Sam Harris' meditation app is absolutely amazing. The theory, the contemplation the way he approaches meditation is next level. Ive been a meditator for years. This took me down a new road and expanded on everything I thought I comprehended even more. I highly highly recommend 👏👏👏💛 and at your fingertips is a collective knowledge and wisdom from the greats
What i feel Sam is trying to get across the board at around 13:22 is (Trying to separate & identify anything & everything including your thoughts; To try & gain a better perspective of yourself & the environment around you. Any noises you may hear, anything physical touching agents you, your thoughts, try to notice & identify you thoughts/thought process as well. Take a deep breath, & do it all over again) In what ever meditation pose works for you.
For anybody looking for deeper explanation on meditation types and practices, look up Allan wallace and go down the rabbit hole. "Religious people believe, philosophers think, and scientists look."
Sam is brilliant. He spoke for a few mins and Joe's response. Apps? 😅 that's why sam needs to go to interviewers at his level that can keep the deep conversation going and then bring it to a beautiful place
I’ve had times of consistent meditation and when I do that I’m convinced it could be among the most important and healing / helping things in existence for all mankind. Amazingly I still have a hard time getting back to that daily routine (for me transcendental meditation, 20 mins, twice a day). Joes should have listened more to how those guys meditate. To each their own but I think there’s a lot of misunderstanding about what meditation is. I agree it’s not a switch to shut off the mind. The head chatter is there but by meditation (TM uses mantra) it does seem to quiet down a bit. Thoughts come and go, and that’s the point as I understand it. But thoughts should be let go naturally. If you’re holding onto a thought use the mantra (or whatever your meditation is) and that thought will pass. It’s like your brain has bubbles that are thoughts. They need to come out and surface, where the bubble bursts and that’s the end. Allowing that to happen does indeed calm the mind overall. Pretty much our brains are carbonated with thoughts and we need to just open the valves a bit.
Just wanted to say that I am grateful to have Joe Rogan and his podcast. Always fun and I learn some new interesting stuff. Instead of wasting time with some other dumb shit in TV or Netflix I rather waste it here.
This is one situation where Joe Rogan knows nothing about the experience of mediation and the way it makes you see the truth. One thing these guys didn't mention is that meditating brings you into the present moment. You start to really see things as they really are. You either understand this or you don't. The best way to learn to meditate is to do a meditation retreat. Here is where you will awaken and gain a technique you can keep for life. When you hear people talking about outer body crap and drug induced experiences you know they are not there yet or haven't even attempted to learn to meditate properly. Joe, clearly got caught out making up crap in this situation. Maybe he has learnt to meditate after this interview. :)
"Just Noticing your thoughts are crazy has real value". Amen. DMT and isolation tanks are a recipe for madness. You dont want an isolation tank. Just a sitting cushion and a tree in a quiet glade. Realize the chaos of the mind and detach from thoughts and accept the Universal Love radiating from Jesus and all Buddhas throughout space and time.
Joe I'm a lifelong seeker... I've been thru most of the major drug addictions and love to talk to everybody... i'm endlessly fascinated with life and I salute your podcast... I really want to thank you for being an advocate for psychedelic experiences and i especially enjoy your enthusiasm for eating cannabis and stretching or doing yoga and the inspiration and education you give their especially... hearing you say that is like cupid shooting an arrow thru my heart... the descriptions you use about how terrifying eating cannabis is is so hilariously sarcastic but spot on jive way of speaking that truth... it is a fun kind of rollercoaster anxiety about taking maybe a tiny bit more than you did the last time or cutting back to something more manageable... the excitement of how its gonna land onto that days set of mental issues to deal with... I never feel beaten up by eating marijuana or scolded harshly for going deep... I always wake up refreshed even if i miss a day from the public after an evening of major breakthroughs... I think you are saying what needs to be said Brother...
Thinking that one is bad at meditation because they notice that they have intrusive thoughts while meditation, is like thinking that one is bad at exercise because they feel discomfort or exertion while exercising.
I actually started a new thing called “meta-tation.” It’s a heightened form of meditation where you become of aware of the fact that you’re aware of the fact that there are thoughts going on inside tour head.
When the illusion was lifted and I realized the truth, I realized the key to mental and physical nirvana and fortitude, is discipline. If you can smile through the darkness, sadness, and death, the same as you would smile through light, joy, and life, then you can never be broken nor bent
I like the 3:00 mark where Dan explains what he does. I haven't heard the rest yet so not sure if he'll explain how he does it, because that's not my experience of meditation AT ALL edit - I like 4:50 - 5:00. every time you do that it's a bicep curl for the brain.
If one require anything else then the breath for meditation, then its not mindfulness meditation. Attachment colors our perception of all things and meditation is meant to experience the Nature of Reality, and the Remedy for the Suffering caused by those attachments. One must obtain Proper motivation as it the framwork for this entire journey.
Amelia Seriousface it's embarrassing not only that there's this critical typo in the title, but the number of people using the wrong word in the comments... imbeciles.
So why don't you make one of those videos? RUclips is filled with videos about that subject. Meditation has enormous scientificly proven benifits for mind, body and spirit. I would like to hear what Joe has to say.
Things that may improve your life: - Believe that we got created & manifest - No masturbation & semen retention - Drinking 2-4 liters water a day - not comparing yourself to others (compare you from yesterday) - Not trying to impress people (impress yourself from yesterday) - Cold showers (Even the last 20 seconds of your regular shower) - Meditation - Not relying on relationships for happiness - Working out - Having a leader mentality - Reading books - Breathing in from your nose (reminder) - having gratitude - Cleaning your room - Taking breaks of social media - Not limiting yourself - Making up your bed (discipline practice) - Quitting/moderating caffeine & sugary drinks - Walking in nature - Making your own money (online) - Having a plan for things you wanna do - Being aware of what you doing with your valuable time & energy Please consider to try out at least 1 thing from this list (make a screenshot if you want to!)
The alarm is again a mistake. Because it teaches us to look somewhere else for reminders, and not within for constant "remembering". A reminder is only a permission to forget, which is NOT helpful. Any external thing will be a way to shrug the responsibility for being mindful in THIS moment.
so joe believes in sober psychedelics states, i sound crazy when i talk about my experiences that i can only describe as “ like i’m on drugs”. it’s nice to see someone else bring it up more normally
At 4:00 Dan explains that you should only feel the raw data of breathing, not focus on the breathing itself. Can someone confirm that breathing in slowly and breathing out slowly is not meditating if that is all that you are trying to focus on, while every now and then your thoughts redirect you from this thinking. Meditating as Dan is explaining it is less on focussing on anything (e.g. breathing) but rather feeling / acknowledging it, and intercepting your thoughts dwelling off; you should in fact not focus on anything.
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It astounds me how Sam just drops this complete 5-minute bomb on the nature of the mind and does it so eloquently and they don't even engage him on it whatsoever.
Yep I noticed that. Joe just moves on like what he said had no impact on them. I found it enlightening.
Couldn't be better articulated.
He completely lost them.
Though I wish they all could have engaged with what he said more, I thought that it was absolutely fucking hilarious that joe just starts talking about "apps" immediately afterward.
I was also very disappointed to see no one follow him up :(
I love how this Dan fella is trying as politely as possible to break it to Joe that tripping on pot cookies while taking a salt bath in the dark isn't meditation.🤣
Bill Young I disagree boy
lmao
💯 Bill... Joe is smarter and more enlightened than this... however; at that moment- his fried a fuck, inside the box athlete is showing.
LMFAO! couldn't have said it better! hahaha
Meditation is personal, gatekeeping it is not very useful.
Sam: “Have you ever combined the tank with psyched-“
Joe: “YES”
St. Frank 😂😂😂
What Is "The tank"?
@@leonardogeorgecarrai9476 The tank is a sensory deprivation tank which is a dark, soundproof tank filled with salt water, it is designed so there is no external stimulation when you are in it. Apparently being inside it is very relaxing and decreases anxiety and depression
Hahahahaha!
I never know if the "what is the tank" comments are fake or not
Sam Harris' explanation was f*cking amazing
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what about kotlin can we learn here?
I was almost kind of annoyed when Joe had absolutely nothing to say in response and changed the topic
I kinda saw Joes reaction of more like "he just shut up and let the guy talk" cause he sensed something good. Most interviewers would have interupted or interjected, shows his experience.
He basically summarized the buddha's teaching in the most perfect way. It was amazing
2 guys running meditation apps, the moment Joe asks if people even need an app they don't hesitate to say no. Gotta love these guys.
Dani Muresan For real
A sign of someone practicing a true method sincerely.
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@@hames7497 you must be 10 or trying to come out to your parents
@PC Gamer DttV 😂
“Have you ever combined the tank and pshychadelics” Joe been waiting for that question his whole life
AkadeProductions joe saw the opportunity and ran with it
What is the tank?
LMAOOOO
Hahahaha
So have I
We gonna act like sam Harris mid video monologue wasn’t the most insightful and clear definition of the benefits of meditation and understanding the perceptive nature of the self
To even comprehend what he was saying you need to have experienced the basic level of meditation.
@@peekaygaikwad4117 actually I think that the whole purpose of his explanation was to help people with no experience gain a basic understanding of what meditation can do for you. That's usually the hardest part, explaining what it is and what it does. That was my issue for the longest time. People who didn't really know what it is were trying (and failing) to describe it to me, so it's benefits were lost on me. Also, why bother making an explanation that's intended for people who already know what it is. I think he did an excellent job.
time stamp?
@@MuhammadAliGOAT I think 10:40 is good, but watch the whole thing. It's not that long. I've been trying to meditate at least every day (my goal is 20 minutes after waking and 20 minutes before sleep), but it's probably been more like every other day lol. But that's fine, it's always a work in progress no matter where you are. It's for sure helped me deal with the whole shelter in place situation. Don't make it a chore or a thing to stress about though (you probably will at first but that's ok). The meditative state itself is as much the goal as all the benefits that result from it.
@@michaelfranciotti3900 thank you for your detailed reply, you should start off small though.. setting yourself 20 minutes becomes a chore.. start off for 1 minute and do that for a few weeks and then when you feel its not enough, spend longer and increase over time.. do you roll out of bed and meditate? because meditation is the same as prayer and sometimes I will roll out of bed into prayer (meditation) and I am still all hazy because my body is adjusting to the 'reality' I have now awoken back into and while my body is adjusting my thoughts, I am praying/meditating.. I don't know if this is more powerful than doing other things first, but I like to believe its when we are most connected to the source (also like to think if you have fasted all night and have not eaten, that the connection is more powerful and pure)
I feel like people who meditate are always able to get their point across crystal clear all the time.
That’s a very valid point.
I've meditated for a few years and I'm not super articulate when I'm talking, usually only when writing but I don't think meditation has changed that. I'm only 23 so maybe in a decade or so, I swear people who are like 50 are always articulate and say what they mean.
Jack but when did you start meditating and how long do you do it. A regular practitioner can see the effects.
@@ravishingravi started probably in 2015 or 2016, usually do it daily for 10 mins or so, or just spread out through the day in 20 second bursts of just bringing my attention to my breath and that's it. Sometimes I've gone a few months without doing anything so that's not great! Lol
gravishingravi
"What kind of meditation do you do?"
"I smoke weed"
"I smoke the holy herb, get high as hell and meditate"
There are indian monks who does this...they are called aghori
jaqen noone thx for that
@@moeazam6358 killer mike would be proud of you
@@jaqennoone6863 "monks"
00:10:26 for the Sam Harris wisdom. You're welcome!
Lol saw these other comments mentioning it, was wondering how far I have to listen to find his wisdom. Thanks
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Thank you. Even though I personally find weed helps me, Sam's part was so much more eloquent. Dude is a Jedi.
Sam: *drops 5 solid minutes of enlightened dialogue about the mind, pain, suffering and the goals of meditation*
Joe: "So, you guys have like, apps, right?"
Joe is metawoke already
Suffering only comes from being lost in thought? Sounds like newage horseshit.
I thought the same!
@@Competitive_Antagonist It was my understanding that this is what Hindus, Buddhists, and other Eastern religions have been teaching for ages. I'm not any of those, so I'm not super sure myself.
@@Austin-on4zr
This is what is bad about Sam Harris. Just because some old religion said it, doesn't make it true. Mindfulness is mostly just modernised relious teachings.
I Was never really open to the idea of meditation. Thought it was for weak people or something but after practicing it for a couple weeks Im noticing a huge difference in my ability to control my anger and block out a lot of negativity I encounter everyday. Thanks for the awesome conversation!
Meditation is not an easy thing to do as I imagine most would presume, once you attempt it it's really amazing how difficult it is to sit still and calm your mind from all the ambience of the day.
it IS a superpower. and its quite a useful tool
Your ego is telling you it’s for the weak.
lol ur an idiot
I used to cringe at the thought of meditation. But i also suffered depression, adhd and ptsd almost my whole life. Ive been doing it for almost a month, and i find myself not getting angry or depressed at the same shit anymore. Also ive gotten so much better sitting still. My adhd is slowly going away and im fuckin happy. Better memory, being able to sit still, being able to focus.
Sam's explanation was beautiful. Mindfulness lets you perceive thoughts as movements into consciousness in the same way that sounds or sights are. You perceive them as states of awareness, not as part of your identity, just like how you would feel with feeling the air against your skin.
Once you disassociate yourself from your thoughts, you are able to experience reality in a way that is more observant, and your thinking becomes clearer and more purposeful. Meditation isn't some religious cult. It's just a reformation of the mind in a way that is more conducive towards one's psychological well being.
I think everyone should give meditation a try. It's requires no money and very little time, and the effects are profound, as research has shown. I haven't even been at it that long and I've already begun to escape the grips of depression.
Nathanael you can find plenty of sadhus in some northern Shaivite hinduism that smoke copious amounts of ganja in their bhakti yoga practice (though plenty of other traditions within and without hinduism would oppose this). Even some sufis use ganja
I have/had severe debilitating OCD and have almost completely overcame it with mindfulness..... feel like I'm living in a completely different world now... have not felt so present in years and years...... I'm glad its helping with ur depression
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@@whitetrashtrucker908👀 any tips?
Summary: Joe is trying to get these two guys in his tub.
Preferably all at the same time.
I'd watch that. Forever.
Yes! Reality
with him lol.
Hot
I've been a regular meditator for more than 7 years. This is so great, there's so much distilled meditation wisdom in these 23 minutes. Completely worth rewatching this now and then to remind yourself of the basics
I could do without the whole section where Joe is talking about getting high in the tank, but I agree.
Man, I freaking love Sam Harris. He always speaks so clearly.
that thing Sam Harris said about pain makes so much sense. Maybe that's why you can't tickle yourself? within the conceptual framework, you know when you are going to stop, and so when the feeling stops. so you actually get no feeling at all. mad.
Holy shit
That shit was great
I can tickle my feet. But the sides...the sides!!!!
But if that was the case you wouldn't be able to hurt yourself either, since you know when the pain will stop.
@@Nathan-tg4gu not necessarily true, if ur going to hurt urself most of the time you would think about two things: what action are you going to do? and at what intensity level? you can choose how intense the act is but not when the pain (physical and emotional) will stop, consequential pain as well is something to consider. The pain caused by the consequences of the action (for ex. parents divorce, someone you love died, etc.) versus an instantaneous feeling you have full control and ease to make stop
16:00 Sam had got done dropping gems and it seems to me that Joe didn't understand what he was saying. I really wish he did.
He didn't act like he didn't understand it. He seemed to take that in and move on with the conversation
Ah, yeah eating drugs and trying not to die, my favorite.
Some nice lucy is the best . or some shroom tea !
Peanut Butter - lmao
i had a good laugh over this
Same shit every day
Exactly. I'm listening and thinking "this guy is actually a moron".
Does anybody else find Sam's voice so incredibly clear and soothing? So easy to listen to
There's a very real stigma around meditation and mindfulness under the assumption that it does not equate to any REAL results or changes in one's life, and I know this because I once subscribed to this stigma.
I can say 100%, though, that anyone contemplating the effectiveness of mindful meditation, or anyone who is contemplating giving it a try, should give it a try (and keep trying, because no one can pick up a guitar and instantly be a virtuoso). Given enough exposure and practice, I believe that anyone can reap its benefits (and there are many, hidden benefits). It's had a real, profound effect on me, and I'm still only a novice at it.
Joe "in the tank" rogan
The example Sam explains about our interpretation of pain or the “framework” we put around pain is such a key concept to understand. For example, Goggins talks about how he used to let all his pain and suffering be his reason for being stuck at where he was at. And it wasn’t until he changed his framework around that pain to be a motivator that he changed his life. Perspective is key!
3:35
this happened to me when I was on lsd for the first time and it taught me how to stop being anxious. I seen myself acting out within myself, essentially actively attempting to change who I am, and how I do things
Dan: *gives elaborate reason why meditation works*
Joe: yeah same thing happens in the tank
Well Dan did say what he did in the tank with the breathing was meditation. And it is honestly.
@@TheRealHerbaSchmurba i was pretty high when i wrote that comment, i just found it hilarious the way joe came out with that
I simultaneously laughed and facepalmed at just the inelegance of that statement after such a powerful description of the key aspects of proper meditation
@@TheRealHerbaSchmurba true
@@TheRealHerbaSchmurba I was high too and had the same reaction lmao
Sam: Have you ever combined the tank with psychedelic states
Joe: yeah
Sam: yeah
Joe: yeah
Sam: yeah (smirks)
😂
This is funny 🤣
what is the tank?
If you've been to Tenerife, Joe's been to Elevenerife.
God this is so good
He is a mental and actual midget with overinflated ego
denis la That’s how I view him lol
"bicep curl for your brain" DEEP!!!!
Jessica Jones lol
Meditation: the true sport of the mind
how about a lunge? or a step? bicep curls works just as well but seems as though you have an attachment to that concept
Ocean O'Kelly lmaooo relaxxxx
Mind wandering is one of the biggest stumbling blocks for people new to meditation.
They keep thinking that they are failing at meditation because their mind keeps wandering. But this is a part of the process.
The "Bicep Curl For Your Brain" idea is an excellent way of helping a new meditator realize that mind-wandering is an essential part of meditation, not a failure on their part.
"Gerbils are naturally found in the sandy plains of Africa, Asia and the Middle East. The gerbil was originally known as a desert rat until they were commercially introduced to North America and bred as pets. The gerbil is a small rodent, similar in many ways to by the mouse and the hamster." Googled it.
lmao
Thank you so much! LOL
The more you know! 🌟
Fuckin bet
Gerbils are naturally found up Rogan’s ass🐹🐹
"Clearing your mind is impossible, unless you're enlightened or dead."
Those two are the same. Yet I never felt as alive until I saw It.
You ever heard of Myamoto Musashi. His philosophy when it came to fighting was to fight as if you were already dead, so that you can strike with zero inhibitions. The point being that if you do not fear death and accept it as if you already were dead, that you would fight to your fullest potential without fear. I believe it’s safe to say that he was enlightened.
TheRealHerbaSchmurba wish I had that mindset
Nick Diaz the way is in practice. As he says.
@@TheRealHerbaSchmurba 'Brahman' means 'expansion', used to denote the way in which the Universe was created, to denote absolute reality, and to denote abiding joy.
Joy feels like expansion.
Maybe Brahman is where I was, the first time I had a breakthrough in meditation (by accident). It felt like my self expanding to fill the whole world, and joy growing in proportion.
Everything I had lived until then was satisfied, there. I saw no reason to continue living in this world, except for the challenge to see if it was possible to live in the world and yet have that joy.
After that time, I've learnt and have been thankful for much, but it seemed to me like it would not be a tragedy if I died. Everything after was like surplus time, a post-game.
The life that sought justification ended there.
Yamikaiba123 hmm interesting. I know what you mean when you talk about dying, coming from a place of contentment. However it would be a crime not to share that joy with others. Kudos.
I love the awareness that Joe has brought to floating. I own a float spa in redondo beach and I can tell you Joe is correct in what he says, but floating can also allow for profound meditation which is what many of our members do and what he appears to allude to as one of his goals in the tank depending on what he is working on. Think of the tank as a powerful tool that can be used for various things. We have athletes go through visualizations and sequences, creatives exploring ideas and letting other ideas manifest from deep within, etc... and my favorite - pure unadulterated meditation. By reducing the distractions and external stimuli, meditation can be enhanced, especially for those who have limited meditative experience. To be able to learn how to dissociate from your ego, escape the pattern of compulsive thoughts and constant thinking, and access a larger collective consciousness is indescribably liberating. This intrinsic awareness that allows you to be interconnected and merge with anything and everything is truly profound. An infinite ocean of knowledge and deeper truth. Hope this helps and doesn't sound too woo woo! Find a float center and let go. Just be =)
Great video! I just decided to get into meditation and it has absolutely made the difference in my life
Good luck to you stranger. Together with clarity this world can be a much better place.
In my experience and research personally, I've noticed a common ground in anyting from the East, that all say to meditate "on" something is a westernized assimilation of meditation. Although I'm sure it is useful just as Joe is explaining. But the Divide between Joe and Danny's perspective on meditation is just further evidence of the case
Ovidian plenty of hindu Shaivite sadhus (holy men) smoke copious amounts of ganja in their practice
I like Sam Harris' friendly smirk starting at 6:10 when he inquires into whether Joe does drugs while floating. Like, Sam is a longtime friend of Joe's and already has a pretty good idea of what Joe does in the tank :)
6:13 😂 Rogan stares at Same like ‘oh you know’
Joe: “yeah”
Sam: “yeah?”
Joe:”yeah..........”
Sam: “yeah.......”
@@Sprite_525 what is the tank?
@@moza9835 you know, the one where water comes into your taps from-the same haha.
I feel like people like you have difficulty maintaining eye contact with others
Mediation? As a lawyer this typo is clickbait.
lol
I didn’t even notice
I only scrolled this far down the comments to find this post. Smh lol Jamie slipping up ! Expecting an amazing podcast
Was scrolling down looking for this comment 😆
I was really confused the entire video. Weirdest legal video ever.
I sucked at mediation until I had my awakening. Now I can meditate at any time. Nothing but the present moment is truth...
Meditation is what/how Sam is describing. It is awareness of your being; awareness of your chattering self and thereby taking control of it; observing your chattering self going through its emotional tantrums; not blocking it or ignoring it; just knowing its there and gently ignoring its bidding's.
6:11
sam: have u ever combined the tank with psychedelics?
joe: yeah!
s: yeah
j: yeah
s: yeah
dan: yeah
Yeah
Hahahahaha
Lmao
yeah
yeah lol
Sam Harris always perks up when someone says they did psychedelics haha
Haha yes, he has himself experimented with them.
Wow. That first few minutes of Dan's talk is quite possibly the best advice for meditation I've ever heard.
Thanks for the video!
Nothing quite like getting to the end of your guided meditation session led by Sam Harris, to suddenly hear “hello, freak bitches” comparatively loud.
Where DO gerbils run wild?
Joe's "Where do Hamsters live" wasn't as good was it.
"What kind of meditation do you do?"
"I eat pot and get inside a tank"
Dan Harris' explanation of mindfulness is the most helpful I've ever heard
15:56 Sam finishes dropping a 5 minute knowledge bomb and all Joe can think to say is "Tell me about your app."
@@Hinsiey is english your second language?
how do you follow up that mind blow??? xD
Lol yeah that was a weird segue
Apparently Joe is a stuck up 😂 can't wrap his tiny head around new information.
@@clevelandclowns5880 Agreed. It was like they were even listening
Once years ago, I was really struggling with sleep. I had been about two weeks with hardly any. I'd fall asleep and wake up shortly after, unable to go back to sleep. Well one night I'm at my gfs apt, which had good internet (this was back when not everyone had it, I didn't), and I decided to look up meditation. I spent the next 20-30 mins following a meditation guide on a website. It felt great, and afterwards I felt really good and finally relaxed. I laid down and kinda kept that mindset, soon falling asleep and I slept soundly the entire night. It was great. Ever since then I've really valued the impact of meditation, though I'm pretty inconsistent about doing it.
This meditation stuff is fascinating but I came here to hear dan sand Sam Harris discuss mediation.
He's mediating Joe's extreme and misguided ideas of meditating.
Lol
Lmao!!!
"The center of the bullseye is not suffering unnecessarily." Very good. For instance, going into an isolation tank for the first time while being high would be causing yourself to suffer unnecessarily.. The isolation tank speeds up the meditation process because we are trying to get past the five senses...the tank already does that for you...mostly...so don't go into that new unexplored territory high your first few times.... Nobody gives medals for stupidity. If you enjoy freaking or want to risk wondering on the side of the road homeless with an irreversible psychotic break...it's up to you. Be kind enough to yourself to build a solid foundation.
I think Joe has a fundamental misunderstanding of meditation.
I think Harris as well
Chris Bartos Not Sam
ya, you may have a fundamental misunderstanding of Joe Rogan having fun.
There is a shit ton of different forms of meditation, anyone who thinks their way of meditating is "the right way" has a fundamental misunderstanding
1 who thinks they understand meditation, doesnt know.
All my brothers and sisters that meditate I'm so proud of you. I don't do it enough. Bless the world.
I meditated for 30 minutes and then saw this video to learn more... and now, the incorrect spelling of meditation on this 3 year old video is bugging me a little. Funnily enough to make a comment... that no one might ever read... hoping someone might read it and relate or... you know what? Have a good day.
Oh fuck shit beetch
Spelling mistake
I had an experience one time. It was the 1st time I meditated,and I felt like I was outside of my body,then it got bright. The light was a golden color. I suddenly started seeing people walking around me. I was sitting in the center of all this and they started looking at me. I panicked and opened my eyes. I could hear their voices,see their faces were clear. It scared the shit out of me. I do alot of guided sleep meditations now
Lmaoo bullshit
You got psychotic on meditation I see. There is people who go through this
Joe is the type of guy who smokes a joint and think he is meditating 😂
Shari can be anything he wants it to be
Some of my best meditations have been while I’m high. That’s when your state of mind is at peace and it’s just easier to extend your energy out into your surroundings.
Por que no los dos?
@@crunchy1547 These "meditations" may give you a more pleasurable experience but that is not the goal of regular yogic meditation practice.
11 hydroxy " Joe Rogan " metabolite
messner geography
You mean
Joe “11 hydroxy metabolite” Rogan
@@tylerfiecke that was the joke....
Dan Harris: "What's your motivation when your eating the pot?"
Joe Rogan: "See what happens, be scared, be terrified."
16:29 Dan Harris become aware of his thoughts, amazing!
Did an iso tank last week..first time. All I can say is I ever run into money, I'm getting one. If I did a float once a day I would be an entirely different person. Did it once..I'm hooked. That's it.
10% Happier
Sam: "What's 10% of zero?"
Sam Harris doesn't need the tank, he's achieved and surpassed the state joe talks about with just his meditation and concentration
Isolation tanks are awesome. " I am, that I am " meditation works as well if you dont have access to one of those tanks.
Joe Rogan assuming everyone can have access to an isolation tank. And that everyone wants to get high af.
Isolation tanks are awesome however " I am that I am " meditation works well for me
I didn’t get that sense of an assumption at all.
Eloy they have home ones now
Right? I would be scared of passing out and choking on my own vomit.
I want to
Sam Harris' meditation app is absolutely amazing. The theory, the contemplation the way he approaches meditation is next level. Ive been a meditator for years. This took me down a new road and expanded on everything I thought I comprehended even more. I highly highly recommend 👏👏👏💛 and at your fingertips is a collective knowledge and wisdom from the greats
Joes always gotta one up
well, they asked about the tank, and that dan guy was kind of judgemental about it... like "you do drugs? woooooooow"
It's cause he's low iq. His ego feels threatened
@@vodkacannon Yes
What i feel Sam is trying to get across the board at around 13:22 is (Trying to separate & identify anything & everything including your thoughts; To try & gain a better perspective of yourself & the environment around you. Any noises you may hear, anything physical touching agents you, your thoughts, try to notice & identify you thoughts/thought process as well. Take a deep breath, & do it all over again) In what ever meditation pose works for you.
Summary: Ben Stillers releasing a meditation app
“What’s 10% happier of 0?” Looks around smiling and laughing lmao
Mafs: "illegal move"
Fuking hell SH is 50. Looking good, bro.
Thanks dude i appreciate it
@@EddieStriked wtf
Appreciate it dude we try
Thanks man
Cheximus thanks bud
Joe Rogan has never let someone talk this long without interrupting them. He saved his breath for his moment too.
For anybody looking for deeper explanation on meditation types and practices, look up Allan wallace and go down the rabbit hole.
"Religious people believe, philosophers think, and scientists look."
Thank you! :)
That's a bit of an oversimplification, but I think I get the point that quote is trying to make.
Sam is brilliant. He spoke for a few mins and Joe's response. Apps? 😅 that's why sam needs to go to interviewers at his level that can keep the deep conversation going and then bring it to a beautiful place
I dig the way that these guys break down the meditation process 😎👍
I’ve had times of consistent meditation and when I do that I’m convinced it could be among the most important and healing / helping things in existence for all mankind. Amazingly I still have a hard time getting back to that daily routine (for me transcendental meditation, 20 mins, twice a day).
Joes should have listened more to how those guys meditate. To each their own but I think there’s a lot of misunderstanding about what meditation is. I agree it’s not a switch to shut off the mind. The head chatter is there but by meditation (TM uses mantra) it does seem to quiet down a bit. Thoughts come and go, and that’s the point as I understand it. But thoughts should be let go naturally. If you’re holding onto a thought use the mantra (or whatever your meditation is) and that thought will pass. It’s like your brain has bubbles that are thoughts. They need to come out and surface, where the bubble bursts and that’s the end. Allowing that to happen does indeed calm the mind overall. Pretty much our brains are carbonated with thoughts and we need to just open the valves a bit.
I wasn't sure if this was about meditation or mediation
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Just wanted to say that I am grateful to have Joe Rogan and his podcast. Always fun and I learn some new interesting stuff. Instead of wasting time with some other dumb shit in TV or Netflix I rather waste it here.
This is one situation where Joe Rogan knows nothing about the experience of mediation and the way it makes you see the truth. One thing these guys didn't mention is that meditating brings you into the present moment. You start to really see things as they really are. You either understand this or you don't. The best way to learn to meditate is to do a meditation retreat. Here is where you will awaken and gain a technique you can keep for life. When you hear people talking about outer body crap and drug induced experiences you know they are not there yet or haven't even attempted to learn to meditate properly. Joe, clearly got caught out making up crap in this situation. Maybe he has learnt to meditate after this interview. :)
I can listen to these two talk for days.🙏🏾🙏🏾
"Just Noticing your thoughts are crazy has real value". Amen. DMT and isolation tanks are a recipe for madness. You dont want an isolation tank. Just a sitting cushion and a tree in a quiet glade. Realize the chaos of the mind and detach from thoughts and accept the Universal Love radiating from Jesus and all Buddhas throughout space and time.
Joe I'm a lifelong seeker... I've been thru most of the major drug addictions and love to talk to everybody... i'm endlessly fascinated with life and I salute your podcast... I really want to thank you for being an advocate for psychedelic experiences and i especially enjoy your enthusiasm for eating cannabis and stretching or doing yoga and the inspiration and education you give their especially... hearing you say that is like cupid shooting an arrow thru my heart... the descriptions you use about how terrifying eating cannabis is is so hilariously sarcastic but spot on jive way of speaking that truth... it is a fun kind of rollercoaster anxiety about taking maybe a tiny bit more than you did the last time or cutting back to something more manageable... the excitement of how its gonna land onto that days set of mental issues to deal with... I never feel beaten up by eating marijuana or scolded harshly for going deep... I always wake up refreshed even if i miss a day from the public after an evening of major breakthroughs... I think you are saying what needs to be said Brother...
10:26 - 16:00 - pure Sam Harris wisdom
6:14
“Yeah”
“Yeah”
“Yeah”
“Yeah”
“Yeah”
And then
" chupa chips"
Whooooooa!!! I never knew these two guys were brothers
Thinking that one is bad at meditation because they notice that they have intrusive thoughts while meditation, is like thinking that one is bad at exercise because they feel discomfort or exertion while exercising.
Dan and Sam: Notice your thoughts.
Joe: DMT? DMT? DMT? DMT?
Thank you Sam, Dan and joe. This conversation may help me explain some things. Good shit guys. 💯
I actually started a new thing called “meta-tation.” It’s a heightened form of meditation where you become of aware of the fact that you’re aware of the fact that there are thoughts going on inside tour head.
When the illusion was lifted and I realized the truth, I realized the key to mental and physical nirvana and fortitude, is discipline. If you can smile through the darkness, sadness, and death, the same as you would smile through light, joy, and life, then you can never be broken nor bent
16:19
SOMEONES TUMMY MADE A HUNGRY NOISE
I thought it was me at first
Lmaoo I was hoping someone commented about that.
I like the 3:00 mark where Dan explains what he does. I haven't heard the rest yet so not sure if he'll explain how he does it, because that's not my experience of meditation AT ALL
edit - I like 4:50 - 5:00. every time you do that it's a bicep curl for the brain.
Joe Rogan the 1 upper
Brett what do you mean?
@@keiahnigbruder1453 He means Joe always tries to get one up when discussing things with others.
If one require anything else then the breath for meditation, then its not mindfulness meditation. Attachment colors our perception of all things and meditation is meant to experience the Nature of Reality, and the Remedy for the Suffering caused by those attachments. One must obtain Proper motivation as it the framwork for this entire journey.
i actually thought this was going to be about mediation and how to be diplomatic in a society where we are ever more in a us vs them world.
Amelia Seriousface it's embarrassing not only that there's this critical typo in the title, but the number of people using the wrong word in the comments... imbeciles.
Amelia Seriousface lol me too exactly
So why don't you make one of those videos? RUclips is filled with videos about that subject. Meditation has enormous scientificly proven benifits for mind, body and spirit. I would like to hear what Joe has to say.
Things that may improve your life:
- Believe that we got created & manifest
- No masturbation & semen retention
- Drinking 2-4 liters water a day
- not comparing yourself to others (compare you from yesterday)
- Not trying to impress people (impress yourself from yesterday)
- Cold showers (Even the last 20 seconds of your regular shower)
- Meditation
- Not relying on relationships for happiness
- Working out
- Having a leader mentality
- Reading books
- Breathing in from your nose (reminder)
- having gratitude
- Cleaning your room
- Taking breaks of social media
- Not limiting yourself
- Making up your bed (discipline practice)
- Quitting/moderating caffeine & sugary drinks
- Walking in nature
- Making your own money (online)
- Having a plan for things you wanna do
- Being aware of what you doing with your valuable time & energy
Please consider to try out at least 1 thing from this list (make a screenshot if you want to!)
I appreciate the subtitles writes "nap" instead of "app".
Joe: "Does everyone need a nap?"
The alarm is again a mistake. Because it teaches us to look somewhere else for reminders, and not within for constant "remembering". A reminder is only a permission to forget, which is NOT helpful.
Any external thing will be a way to shrug the responsibility for being mindful in THIS moment.
I was looking for this comment. Thank you.
19:28
After promoting both their meditation apps...
Joe: "do you need an app?"
Both: "no"
This explained more than anything ever in regards to meditation in all of youtube
so joe believes in sober psychedelics states, i sound crazy when i talk about my experiences that i can only describe as “ like i’m on drugs”. it’s nice to see someone else bring it up more normally
Great meditation advice i thought i was failing with so many thoughts i really needed this
“What’s 10% of 0” should have got a bigger laugh 😂
At 4:00 Dan explains that you should only feel the raw data of breathing, not focus on the breathing itself. Can someone confirm that breathing in slowly and breathing out slowly is not meditating if that is all that you are trying to focus on, while every now and then your thoughts redirect you from this thinking. Meditating as Dan is explaining it is less on focussing on anything (e.g. breathing) but rather feeling / acknowledging it, and intercepting your thoughts dwelling off; you should in fact not focus on anything.