I warned JK Rowling how 'We've all become Westboro' | Megan Phelps-Roper
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Megan Phelps-Roper left behind the Westboro Baptist Church and struck up an unlikely friendship with JK Rowling.
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Megan does a fantastic job at reminding us all that it is imperative to maintain reasonable dialogue, irrespective of the position taken by another.
The witch trials of jk Rowling is so well produced. Megan’s talent blew me away. She is a great interviewer and withholds bias, giving each side of the debate a chance
He never ending probing about the ult right boogie man and forcing JKR to join in to maintain credibility, is the strawman. JKR's positions are the same as the vast majority of the disagreement from everyone. The difference, JKR's position can be expressed in all it's forms openly on the right. The right is having that debate openly the left is demanding obedience. She bring bias, she voices loudly bias and even struggles with "If violence is acceptable to force your ideas." You are being fooled by production and not hearing the words, I think. Did you see who the hyphenated Roper cited as the fact checker? Not biased, wow.
That’s not a good thing, in this situation. It’s not good to give equal treatment to both oppressor and oppressed, and Megan clearly doesn’t get this. I don’t think she has ill intentions, but she’s valuing dispassionate conversation over all else and that’s bad when we’re trying to take people’s rights away.
@@yolandaponkers1581 I am no feminist but have found great joy in the company of a few. Having said that I need to point out; The only right that have been infringed on are woman as a whole. This new truth of an invented protected class of these other genders with the chaos of how they interact in public life is the offender here. They is no oppression other than normal social boundaries that most civilizations have up to now agreed on. Men do not have babies or periods and any self respecting man does not compete with woman professionally in physical sports and those that do should be rightly ridiculed. These ideas are pushed then argued through false equivalence designed to dupe, confuse and divide. These broad tactics come directly from Marxism and refined through Gramsci and have now found a home in "Progressives."
@@johndallara3257You lost me at, “I’m no feminist.”
@@yolandaponkers1581 Well then we have said what needs to be said then.
Social media is one of those things that should be un-invented. Its given every coward & bully the perfect platform to attack anyone they like in complete safety.
This interview makes me actually want to bully J.K. Rowling. Something about feeling no sympathy for one of the richest women to ever live that chooses to pick a fight with people that could never pose a statistically significant threat of any kind. There just aren't enough trans people to do literally anything to any other group of people.
@@HelloThere-xx1ct have you actually read anything she has written about this issue? she has said absolutely nothing derogatory about transgender people what she has said is that women are women and their rights should be defended as well as transgendered people but not one at the expense of the other. That's it. and people who are defending trans rights are jumping on the bandwagon to attack her for it.
@Mr. Mackey You are part of the problem. The only thing trans people want is to be treated equally. Not name calling, calling them crossdressers and whatnot. They are literally transitioning. I am so open to listening to this podcast and I hope everyone listens to it, and keeps an open mind doing so.
What you said about Apple kind of shows me where your mind is at and it had nothing to do with the conversation. Apple isn't the reason we have social media.
JK uses it to abuse SA Victims
@Æthelstan First King of the Anglo Saxons she has said many many anti trans things you abuser
There seems to be an epidemic of self-righteousness.
@Mr. Mackey Very true!
Indeed :(
Megan is so articulate and reasonable.
Megan Phelps-Roper is literally one of my most favourite persons in the world 💛
Ew
@@MrCheenibum64 yeah, i find her overtly unimpressive,
@@johnwatts8346 People who fave hate groups and those that support them are sick
@@MrCheenibum64 seems she went from being way too right to now being very clearly too left...
@@johnwatts8346 who?
I still wonder if Megan, has ever apologized or given any of her money or time, to her victims? She was an adult, who stood outside of peoples funerals holding some of the most nasty and in humane signs, you could imagine. she has built a career off making other people suffer, kind of ironic, now she does that towards trans people.
So you think JK Rowling is hurting trans people, how so? I actually read her words. I don't just believe what people say about them. It's called critical thinking and I'm not sure it's taught as widely as it could be. It used to be explored in college and I believe it should be taught by kindergarten! It used to be important.
It's like people can't imagine they are wrong and on the wrong side. It's insane. It's so strange that he thinks Megan is somewhat on his side or in agreement. It's like they can't imagine that the podcast is meant to wake them up.
Very well said.
Today's problems are inherited doppelgangers. Self-righteousness has always been with us. What's different now is the ability to project it around the world driven by corporate algorithms that monetize information and outrage. The lack of gate-keeping has been both a bane and a boon to free speech and society. Yet, many let corporations and "non-profits" that practice the very thing they claim to fight do their thinking for them. Critical thinking is a skill that does not occur naturally, it has to be developed. But it's not taught because a society that can think for itself and question agenda-driven mis-/disinformation being fed to it cannot be easily controlled. This comment section isn't big enough to truly delve into the complexities of this wrangled mess, and too many people barely read more than a sentence or two, if they make it past the misdirecting headlines. Outrage is so easy. Thinking it hard.
I love her soft spoken, well reasoned demeanor.
Certainty doesn’t have to be an issue: I’m very confident that the sun will rise in the east early tomorrow morning. The trick is to know what level of confidence is reasonable in a given concrete situation.
I think social media may make things worse in some respects but political, religious or other forms of dogmatism, along with the accompanying cognitive biases, are not a new thing amongst humans.
Wow, Megan is looking good. Hopefully, one day she will re-connect with her family, and her mother, Shirley, will get to see the grandchildren.
Her looks and mannerisms are so much like her mom's in so many ways. And yet she is so different too...
I think the bible says it best that we are to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves in all our affairs.
I ignored the "gender-theory" madness far too long. If you're unfamiliar with this issue it is very much worth listening to the podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling. Megan did an amazing job covering this topic in the podcast and including the voices of trans-people who are highly critical of Ms. Rowling. Total respect to Megan and Ms. Rowling.
It’s not madness. You’re a transphobe who is co-signing bigotry.
Heros folks.
This Radio Times interviewer is a bit of a berk.
Yes, Twitter is a limited platform on which it's hard to make a nuanced argument. But why would you expect it to be otherwise? This conversation has been happening for years. Twitter is the bite-sized introduction to the topic. You can seek out more long-form, nuanced versions of the argument if you're interested.
But I'm not sure many people want to. Rowling wrote an entire essay setting out her position, and most people simply ignored it, in favour of the Chinese whispers interpretation of what she said.
It comes from laziness and the same thing is at work here. If you want to know what JKR thinks, in a more nuanced way than Twitter, stop pushing for soundbites and summations and listen to the podcast. Although I must admit, I find it hard to believe men when they claim to need women's objections to this ideology explained to them. It's not at all difficult to understand, especially when things like the Nicola Sturgeon / "Isla Bryant" fiasco are still fresh in all our memories.
It's simply called humility.
She used to propagate hate towards the gay, she left her Church and said had changed and rejected their intolerance. Gullible people applauded her. But now she is admiring and defending an LGBT hater! She has lost all credibility!
Our culture perpetuates this idea of not being able to forgive people. She was raised as a CHILD in a cult. Disgusting that after denouncing her own family you would still hold her to that. The conversation she has with Rowling is nuanced and she also talks to trans people. It's objective. Something journalism lacks in 2023. For her first time interviewing someone it is excellent. My guess is you wouldn't know because you won't listen to it. The laziest form of activism does 0 research.
@@loadishstone She was born into a cult, indoctrinated from birth, sheltered from the rest of the world, yet still had the immense courage to leave that cult as a young woman. She is a genuine hero.
yes it's "your"fault, but the medium makes it possible.
We don't all have time to listen to all the stuff she did with Rowling. I wish she would just summarize what she said.
I would say: Either take the time to listen or disengage of the subject. The nuance is something you need to hear to get the message across in the way it’s intended
I understand but try playing the witch trials while you're going off to sleep... Works for me cuz if it's interesting at all, I replay it later.
@@stacyyoust Interesting approach.
Stop buying ads on social media and their incentive to drive engagement through rage and hate goes away.
Can barely hear her, while his voice is way too loud
At least JK knows what a woman is
You're opinion is invalid Ruzzi
@Trans Antidote lolol and we see what this is really all about. Losers with nothing better to do worrying a group of people they will statistically never interact with.
@Trans Antidote Could you tell me one thing of significance you've ever done with your life? Can you justify your existence?
@Trans Antidote Lol got it so the answer is no. Yes, good point everyone knows children are a prime money making market for Big HealthCare. Those elementary schools do have killer insurance plans lololololol
@Trans Antidote There is a movie on elementary school insurance plans? Wow, I am out of the loop!
Don't know why I expected balance.
"never done anything hateful" sure.
Name something she's done that's hateful. Be specific about it. The onus is on you, not her.
Well this is vague. Keep fighting the good fight with nothing to say.
@@neonatalpenguin the lies she's spread about trans folk
@@jt8572 stay ignorant, chief
@@neonatalpenguinLobbies against trans women's rights to public spaces and accurate documents, called trans women "penised individuals," called trans women "men." She also supports bigots like KJK and Magdalen Berns
Everyone wants her? Please, keep her!
Happy to. 😊
@@LH-kr4od ew
If I could translate JK in humanistic terms: "Every transphobic argument can be basically boiled down to "I don't know the science at all or have a good argument here, but trans people challenge my long held view of the world and it's very uncomfortable and because I am rich and famous, everyone should be expected to move around my discomfort".
Keep not listening to what is being said; that's sure to pay off in the long run.
Wrong ; "transphobia" is anti fascism in action
My son is a trans man & he agrees with JK Rowling. So do I. Gender ID is a metaphysical belief, not a scientific fact. Sex is a scientific fact. Laws must be based on facts, not on beliefs.
My son is female, and TW are male. The law should reflect those facts.
@@pennyadrian7774 - your son is a trans man, his feelings reflect his feelings. But the science is very clear that gender is a taught social construct. And either your biology agrees or doesn’t. If JK is worried about predatory men, she should focus on cis men, because the stats are very conclusive.
Sorry Mark, but there is a reason it's called - "Gender Theory" - and that is because it has NOTHING to do with science - and is simply another branch of Post Modern "theory" and philosophy.
It's good that Meghan has changed, but she's still not completely innocent. She has done terrible things to others. You can't just say, well I'm done with them I'm a good person now. It doesn't work like that. Karma will come for her sooner or later.
Yes, shame on her for being indoctrinated into a cult that she was literally born into and believing what she was taught until she became an adult and realized those beliefs were wrong and left the only life she had ever known. Aren’t you glad we’re all so much better than her???
What a bleak way to view the world. Maybe one day you’ll come to understand how incredibly nuanced human behavior is, and you’ll realize that we’ve all done hurtful things in our lives without fully understanding the gravity of our actions at the time.
@@thereisbeauty7 She was old enough to know better. If we go by your logic, then we should not arrest underage children for crimes, cause they don't know better.
@@jukio02 "She was old enough to know better." She left.
She has been disowned by her family for leaving the cult. That can't be easy. Karma can also come to those who judge and aren't able to forgive.
Out of interest, do you think her change is genuine regardless of whether you think she needs to pay for her past life?
Sure, but there are right and wrong answers. J.K. Rowling chooses to promote demonstrably wrong answers that obviously harm people. Megan doesn't seem to understand that her "church" wasn't wrong because they were cruel, they were wrong because there is no evidence for any of their beliefs.
no she doesn't. you've obviously not read anything rowling has actually said.
You should try critical thinking. It's really worth it. The people attacking J.K. Rowling are a malicious cult with an evil agenda. The just pretend to be on the good side to get the gullible on board
@@zz-if1ic lol if only we could criminalize stupidity! Sadly I don’t think that would help because we’d lose about half the population. But your half would think that lolololololol
@@HelloThere-xx1ct i kindly suggest you're promoting self imprisonment as you're obviously daft and in the "wrong" half of society. try reading what she actually said before commenting nonsense.
Please do not contribute to the reading of second-hand opinions on twitter without looking at the source. This is the reason everything has been blown out of context
Unsubbed
No1 cares.
Lol someone else different opinion to much for you , in a way your making her point perfectly so many people online are incapable of any discourse.
@Carver Pete so true. Just as with Westboro, the TRA approach is "fingers in the ears, not listening to anyone, but shouting mantras as loud as possible.
@@LH-kr4od "only two genders" is a mantra y'all whine whenever trans folk just walk on the street
@carverpete3580 Don't be a hypocrite. I'm sure if this "opinion" went the other way around, you'd be the one commenting "unsubbed".