Mini cooper vanos codes P0014 and P0017
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- Опубликовано: 27 фев 2019
- Mini cooper with vanos codes 283d and 288d. Diagnosis info along with vanos adaptation.
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Had this a while ago. All guides were good so a new chain cured it. A good brisk drive readapted it. Thanks for posting
t;hanks!
Superb video,I’ve been searching for this exact problem with our 2006 Cooper for ages,very helpful thank you!
hopefully it helped.
you are about 12 years late for doing a timing chain on a 2006, my dude, lol
Thanks for explaining this really helped with my car thank again
thanks.
Great info very well explained
thanks!
Excellent video! Thank you!
Your welome!
Great info... common issue (chain guides) from what I've heard.
yes, very common.
awesome video. same question as lots of people ask what autel are you using? i am a shop owner, have maxisys 908 purchased in 2019 and have 2013 mini cooper S and 2006 mini cooper base and on both no live data for vanos nor vanos adaptation, so not sure why?
Good video - thank u - I just subscribed.
Thanks so much! I have another mIni video in the queue. Not much time to edit right now as my employee's left, and I'm training a new guy.
I am looking for the altel maxisys tool and there are quite a few to choose from 906 8 something s and pro can you be a little specific. The tools are a little expensive and I am only going to use it on mini cooper's.
Thus is a great help to me
thanks for watching
Thanks for this, ive got a 1.6 Mini Cooper (N12) that has code 283d "adaptation stop" ...the other code isnt present although there was stored in the DME for poor O2 sensing on bank 1 , Im guessing this is in part to issues around VANOS position....Also there was a 2B15 relating to throttle plausibility....I noticed that BMW tech bulletins recalled alot of these for guides and tensioner replacement January 2014...at the moment im just picking my way through any information I can...
good scan tool will help.
Good morning Richard. A pleasure, like always read your post & watch your videos. I have three (3) doubts. 1. A low level of ATF on a 01m transmission can causes one P0740 code?. 2. How many liters of ATF uses one 01m transmission? (complete rebuilding case). 3. Do you buy used parts for 01m transmissions? Best Regards.
1 Yes. 2. 9 if it was dead emply, but you rarely get one that is dead empty. After pan drop you use 3-4.
I have one Hyundai Elantra 2017 and my car start stop for no reason, the mechanical saw is crankshaft position sensor, he change but the problem continues he open the transmission to clean and fix something... the car working but two days after the traction control light is on and together I have the codes p0014, p0017 and p0335 and now the car stopping some times again...
Which autel maxisys version are you using here? So many people who asked; why don’t you tell us?
There are a variety on autel maxisys scanners.
Please tell us the exact model
I've have a 2007 r56 base with 139k mileage. I'm getting the same codes and the exhaust adaptation value was 19.2°. But top guide rail was not broken.
FutureFox so how you fixed the problem?
I did this job. Replace cam actuators timing chain and guides. I use the tool to lock the cams and crank. Our of spec by 7 degrees on both cams. How does this happen?
Sorry, I dont know.
Would be nice to see the new adaptations value in live data! What was the total cost for this repair incl diagnosis? Thank you so much!
I have another car here so maybe I can answer that on a later video.
What brand chain do you use
Whats a fair price for the repair you did on the 2007 Cooper Timing Change job. My code checker is just a cheap FixD so I dont get the adaptation readings like you do. I do have same ODBII errors, and shop I took the cooper too said they believe the VANOS was too blame. I was going to just replace the VANOS exh and intake and hope for the best. Also second question, is there a tester out there that isnt super expensive that will give me the adaptation numbers?
Sorry I do not discuss pricing on repairs on youtube. I think Autel is the cheapest one that would offer the adaptations. I tried the foxwell/schwaben tool and although it acts like it does it, it does NOT! foxwell/schwabe tool lies to you.
Old question ?- which model Maxisys are you using? My version does not have the valve gear screen. Are you using yhe ms906ts ?
I'll check next time I have the machine out.
Thanks, save me good money. Blessings
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CoolAirVw Rm You have new subscript . Tanks
Hi-can the vanos adapt on its own after replacing timing chain and clearing codes? All we have is a basic analyzer that reads and clears codes. Also, to replace the timing chain, are there special tools to lock the cams in place? Thanks for posting this video!
I would assume it adapts on the fly a certain amount, but I dont know. There are special tools.
@@CoolAirVw my car 2007 mini cooper p0012
@@DanielGonzalez-cd3mb Yes you'll need special tools. You may be able to get by without doing the adaptation, but it would be best to have it done, or do it right.
My Friend, I did the adaptations in the VANOS exactly as you explain it here but I have a problem, my numbers are in reverse, 153.7 in the exhaust and 51.9 in the intake, a week ago I replaced the complete chain kit together with the phasers. Why this is happening, your help would be very important.
Thanks.
Dont know. further checks would be required. If the car were here I would scope cam vs crank and see if cam timing was responding to action of the vanos solenoids.
I learned that I may need an Vanos adaptation. Never knew about it.
Background:
My problem: P00BD code says Mass Air Flow sensor bad. it's not. Replaced it twice. Mini dealer can't figure it out having it 7 days. I rebuilt this motor myself, replacing almost everything. Bought it with a blown head gasket, so Antifreeze and oil mixed into a sludge causing the overheating. The previous owner kept driving it until it would not start again...
Anyway, after 5000 miles of driving it in 9 months, Engine light comes on most of the time. Seems to trip it within 2 minutes of driving. When first starting, it has a slight erratic idle (Vanos?). What leads me to believe it's Vanos, is another Mini dealership/repair RUclipsr said his Vanos solenoid caused the P00BD code along with Vanos codes. That got me to questioning the Vanos.
Although it drives really good, it has a slight erratic behavior at 2900 rpm and very slight load on engine, like it can't set the proper timing for the condition? My son who is an ASE (?) mechanic showed me on his autel (?) that the Short Term Fuel Trim was erratic, essentially shutting off fuel very quickly and then turning it back on at the 2900 rpm erratic part. Almost feels like a miss-fire, but it's not. It's the Fuel trim shutting off quickly.
I do have 0.5mm larger pistons due to out of round cylinders, Head was reworked at reputable shop that did my short block with pistons. I was thinking Mass Air Flow Sensor registered more air because of larger pistons, but I don't think that's it because of seeing timing issues can give P00BD.
I swapped the solenoids. No difference.
I will ask my son to see if he can do the Vanos recalibration.
Question:
Since my oil and anti-freeze mixed into a sludge, could something in the Vanos system have become sludged up and needs to be cleaned preventing Vanos from operating at peak performance?? I cleaned and checked the solenoids and they operate snappy with power applied.
Thanks for teaching me about Vanos recalibration. I hope my son can get help me with actual usable numbers to see if it's in limits. I'm subscribing to your channel.
Sorry, but I think your questions self evident. Of course if its full of crap it might work like crap. But all you need to tell is run the adaptation and it will give you the numbers.
I have same code MAF plausibilty, N12 engine. Switch solenoids, did calibration didn’t help.
Mechanic thinks only way to fix it is head rebuild. Car also has erratic idle when cold, sometimes when breaking before stop it catches idle...
@@wellwh0 Do you have a "S" model car?
@@CoolAirVw no it's One version N12b14a... I did all possible repairs on it. timing chain, thermostat, PCV, water pump, water pump belt, valve cover gasket, oxygen sensor...etc
@@wellwh0 Well interesting to hear someone else has a P00BD after timing chain replacement, switching solenoids etc. I may have some good news. I purchased a Foxwell NT510 Elite for $138 (ordered through Foxwell online), did the Vanos Adaptation to clear and relearn the Vanos advance and retard values. The check Engine light went off the next drive cycle, and stayed off the drive cycle. I will reply back with whether it stays off after a week or more. Erratic idle seemed better when cold, but mine was only slightly erratic for about 5 -7 seconds, then smoothed out when starting. I'll report back in a week or so to see if this fixes it!!! (crossing fingers)
I have this 2 codes with the 4 cylinders misfiring, plus cam position out of wack, I am not going to investigate any further, I am sure it needs a new chain.
Plus water pump and thermostat, no wonder they just wanted to get rid of em, I was going to throw it as an easy flip but I'll do the chain and ask full price
some special tools needed but you can do it!
I have 2008 mini cooper 1.6 base i think a same proble but the timing is new. The engine start in the morning very good but a few minute the engine make a noise , same with you reset vanos and start the engine the noise growling. I need help
Did you figure it out?
Did you replace the cam Phasers/adjusters as well at the chain??
no.
just wondering which software you used in autel since mine does not have those data pids for vanos
don't know. I would promise to check and post it later but I never remember to do so.
@@CoolAirVw That's fine, thanks man, great video though.
Any able to help me I have a mini cooper r56 non turbo, so n12, car feels down on power, garage said it needed timing chain had that done and vvt solenoids changed and camshaft sensors changed, still have this problem of low power, (no engine light or anything, any ideas, could it be to do with the adaption or that fact it's a new engine put in the car maybe something to do with ECU?
Its probably not the relearn but you should try that first just to be sure. Probably should have used a shop that has the equipment to do the relearn. Many things can cause low power. Best way to proceed is to get it to someone good who can diagnose it.
@@CoolAirVw on my odb on test results I'm getting 02 bank1 senor 2, rich to learn threshold voltage(constant) any clue, it does seem to run abit rich, could it be a 02 sensor? Maybe
@@josh-uk9627 Does your scan tool show fuel trims? Do you understand fuel trims? Look at fuel trims to see if it actually is rich, then create a vacuum leak while watching short term fuel trim to see if the 02 responds. I don't have any "rich diagnosis" video but there are others on youtube. Things like leaking injectors, maf sensor or 02 sensors ect will make it rich.
So I found what was the problem, it's a 1.4 they put in the wrong engine 😅 just my luck
Hi, I have the snap-on solus edge scan tool that doesn’t support the features your Autel unit does. I need to upgrade but not sure which scanner to get that will provide data I need to diagnose 2015 Paceman with vanos issues. Getting that degree data after recal would be great! Nice feature for sure. Thx for this great video.
I dont know which scanner for sure, especially on a 2015 but Autel seems to do a good job with on mini and BMW and most other makes also. Some folks call it 'Aweful-tell" here on youtube, but its beat out snap on for mini's for sure.
Thanks for your response. My friend has the new Zurich android device. We ran it through the recalibration but it only displays what seems like a default for the intake and exhaust cam timing degrees of 65535.
Doesn’t make sense, but my thinking is that it’s not recording or picking up the actual degrees for each cam.
My customer friend drove the car to Portland from Bend Oregon and the CEL didn’t trigger for about 85 miles. Seems more intermittent.
I was wondering which Autel unit you use, which one you used for this video because that device seems to do a great job reading the actual data.
Also, so far, I’ve replaced both vanos solenoids as the customer drove about 12,000 miles between oil changes and my first concern was that he varnished them up pretty well. Research and lacking experience with this product lead me in that direction at first.
There are cam phasers on both cams on this turbocharged model. The issue seems to be with the intake, but I’m wondering if maybe it’s a phaser issue?
The engine has less than 36k miles. I’ve changed the oil twice using the castrol edge 5-30, but, before, I think he was going to an oil change place, they typically don’t use the correct oil in my experience. I’ve seen firsthand how that can damage vvt systems on say the eurovans.
I’m hoping to get more data feedback before beginning a mechanical teardown and exploratory. I’m not one to throw parts at a repair at a customers expense. Solenoids could be part of the issue but maybe an incorrect recommendation in hindsight, so I’m trying to avoid that any further by zeroing in on this issue.
Any insights are greatly appreciated.
@@anthonyttoigo dont know. Sorry only so much I can do
@@anthonyttoigo 65535 is actually a Decimal value for Hex FFFF. It just says whatever is measuring it sees all ones (1111 1111 1111 1111) which is FFFF in Hexadecimal. likely it is not measuring the correct location or value, so a useless value??
where are you located i have the same issues with a manual trans vehicle ! I’m in Naples, Fl anyone you recommend ? Thanks
Kansas City Area (Missouri) Go Cheifs.
Hello sir I replace timing chain 2008 mini with new vonos and sensors but still getting code p0015. I also did adaptation exhaust side say 19 degrees and intake 154.? degrees
What is the problem could b?
I check timing with timing tool all good.I open 3rd time it's frustrating 😑. Any help 🙏
what scan tool are you using? Fox and Shwabe tools lie. They are not doing the test and lying about it.
Would love to know how much a job like this would cost as my 2009 mini is giving me the same Codes. great video all the same.
find a shop near you.
What do you think, how much does it cost to fix this Problem?
I do not give quotes on youtube. Call some shops near you.
What is the scanner that you use?
I think I was using an Autel in this video. In some early videos I used a foxwell tool. foxwell and Schwabin are the same thing. Foxwell wont do Vanos adaptation.
What Autel scanner are you using?
Maxisys. It does work well on Mini.
CoolAirVw Rm which model? I have a similar problem with wife mini so I’m looking at getting one. Thanks
Nice job , I had the same fault code on the mini vanos adaptation stop , the car start but when I vel it it's shut down , no idle , what the solution sir I need you help
Run the adaptation with a compatible scan tool and see if the numbers are in specification. If they are off on just one side (intake or exhaust) then you can swap the vanos solenoids, to identifiy if its a stuck solenoid. If the numbers are off on both sides then you most likely need timing chain work. There are other issues that it could be also but that would be beyond the scope of what I can advise you of in a "youtube comment".
@@CoolAirVw eish my scan tool doesn't do adaptation
@@CoolAirVw it's autel MD808 PRO
There are things that a DIY cannot do. This may be one. But you can try swapping the solenoids and you could remove the valve cover and inspect the chain and the upper guide.
@@CoolAirVw thanks sir
Hi good information what's mileage of this car Thanks
175k
Can you drop a link for this scanner or one capable of doing that
scanner I use that is good for vanos adaptation & results is Autel Maxisys.
Is it the 906b?
Hello is that an n- 16 engine?
N12