@@Hereford1642😂 except the UK counts a person that works 1 day a week and claims benefits as "Employed" whereas the rest of Europe classes these people as unemployed - including Ireland who has a 4% unemployment rate, a true unemployment rate, which is essentially full employment for us. Darn those pesky facts ehhh😂
@@RazorMouth The ONS says this:- 'The Office for National Statistics uses the International Labour Organisation (ILO) definition. This is the internationally agreed definition of unemployment. It is recommended by the ILO - an agency of the United Nations, and used by The Statistical Office of the European Union, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) and other countries.'
There are no tariffs. The eu added document handling charges. The UK has put up no barrier. Get real. The UK border is the only eu external border to get these added charges..
@@adrianrouse5148 get real u say. I've 40yrs experience in airfreight/road freight+ seafreight work. There are certain tariffs added post-brexit. Verifying country of origin is now paramount on car parts for example. Unsure if u don't know,or trying to convince the gullible neanderthals who voted for this
There is a very simply rule, if someone is promising that a decision that will result in HUGE upheaval and a massive change in how things are done will give nothing but benefits, they are lying. Even if you go for something that will end up beneficial, there will ALWAYS be downsides, it's just the nature of big changes.
It wasn't just a lie it was promises and assurances provided by unqualified politicians with a hidden agenda. The majority of economists warned against Brexit.
Rupert plants the seeds. When people hear a politician lying, they have a degree of skepticism. When all the newspapers agree and echo and reinforce the message, it gives the impression of a consensus. But those papers are all owned by ane represent a billionaire tax dodging class, literally 1%. The genius of conservatism has been to present the billionaire interest as the working man's interest, and a corrupt media did this. The BBC echoing it endlessly is criminal.
I remember when you lot cried like babies when you lost. The EU is punishing the UK for having the balls to stnd up to the corrupt EU and you lot still cry give it a dam rest ffs.
Unfortunately he is also a poisonous, mendacious war criminal who along with Blair misled the people of Britain using 'weapons of mass destruction' as a fig leaf to invade Iraq.
The ordinary Joe in the Street wasn't in the position to have all the information about the finances that are involved in leaving the EU, the Tories took advantage of this and lied and conned the British People and preyed on their fears.We should never forgive them for the damage they have done ,they would do anything to remain in power ,the British public can now see them for what they are, self serving liars..!!😡
Would that be the same man who lied to UK voters about weapons of mass destruction?, what makes you convinced he is not lying now?. He should be in prison with his boss Blair.
@@danielwood2901 Agreed, I am a Northern ireland protestant. Family in the Police and Military. Grew up with my Grandfather and Uncles in uniform, followed by my cousins. Yet they all admit unification of some sort is down the road.
I don't agree with the idea of not blaming cretinous Brexit voters, like the ones in this crowd. Their credulous nature has harmed the UK. They're idiots.
😂😂 You get what you vote for!!...Every expert in economics said this would happen...There is an old saying "if u won't listen u will feel" well they did not listen and now they can feel the consequences...
@SilverbackMatt .....no actually I was imagining a Tory government being back in power by then, after five years of Labour. That's how stupid much of the British electorate is...that they would rather have a party in power that doesn't have their best interests at heart, and laughs at them; than have one who have a better record of social justice, and who don't have an irrational hatred of Europe in general.... not just the EU. As for voting Reform UK - are you mad?! lol ...I wouldn't go anywhere near them with loons like Anne Widecombe, Laurence Fox, and Alex Phillips in their party.
@SilverbackMatt Can you explain how Reform will change the UK and the steps required to get there? Or is it all just sound bites that sound good to you and you support that?
@@puffins4007Dude, it’s 2023. There are no “remoaners” any more. There are however an increasing number of people who would opt to rejoin the EU if the opportunity presented itself - including a fair number of people who voted Leave in 2016. The former “remoaners” turned out to be right. Not so stupid, then.
@@just_some_guy_on_the_internet You are having a laugh. We have remoaners everywhere in Westminster, including the civil service, who are still fighting tooth and nail to get us to rejoin. These people are the people who have not delivered Brexit to its full extent and should be ashamed that they have gone against a democratic vote in 2016.
@@mikedon5205 I agree. Mark Twain once wrote "It's easier to fool a man than to convince him he's been fooled". That's because in order to fool him you have to defeat his intellect but to convince him he's been fooled means defeating his pride and most people's pride is stronger than their intellect.
Like a lot of school children who think the consequences of their actions are nothing to do with them - it's all the headmaster's fault, miss! The fact that the headmaster's was a liar, which everyone but the dunces could see through, led us to this sorry state. Unfortunately they are grown-ups, and deemed as mentally competent to vote - so they are actually to blame. Modern England in a nutshell.
If I want to buy a bicycle, I spend more time to inform me about which bicycle I should buy, than these people spent about the consequences of brexit and the future of the country. Even some school children have more common sense.
Stay lied as well. We wanted sovereignty. The vitriolled from the remainers, the moral superiority, the fact what they thought was morally right, was enough to make people vote out.
Exactly, wage inflation (No freedom of movement) Supply side inflation (Restricted access to suppliers) Food inflation (30% of UK food is from EU). We did this to ourselves under the full knowledge of its repercussions.
Have you been to Europe this year? Prices up 30 percent or more across board. Riots in France, Sweden, Spain youth unemployment at 50 percent...and Ukraine are getting bombed to pieces. Funny definition of 'doing better'
@@god1971b About time we started producing our own food then. Plus Germany's bank is on the point of needing to be rescued, which will affect all the EU.
@@denzel270he's just regurgitating right-wing propaganda from the Tories. To make them feel good about voting themselves out of the largest market and turning the uk into a 3rd world country.
Campbell the bully is obsessed by Brexit. He is amongst those of the political classes who have totally undermined people's faith in politicians due to his spinning and behaviour.
@@denzel270As opposed to all those truth telling Tories that lied to you and the rest of the nation, don't be a Muppet if you're going to troll at least be good at it.
@@denzel270your comments explain why some people never learn and will always fall for con men. Not sure if its low IQ, stupidity, ignorance but Brexit only won because of people with these traits
I agree with you Alistair, Johnson should not be forgiven. And you shouldn't be forgiven for the destruction of Iraq and the deaths of our service men and women.
These so called 'Brexiteers' who have apparently changed their mind are actually Remain voters. This is classic propaganda to undermine the Leave vote and encourage people to change their mind. The UK parliament is 85% pro-EU - if they wanted a second referendum they would have had a second referendum. The only reason there has not been a second referendum is they know it would destroy the pro-EU case forever. This 'Europe' thing has always been a top-down minority ideological imposition on the British people.
Don't say that, we used to fly from Spain to the UK quite often, now we drive to France instead, we go across the border and they don't even look at us (most of the time there's no one there) and we spend our holidays in France, so there are benefits.. ....for the french.
There is undoubtedly a growing caucus of opinion in the UK that the country should never have ceased being part of the EU. However translating this growing opinion into action towards that end is a challenge that, as yet, the people of the UK have proved they are unable to achieve. First, an equally large caucus must address the issues that led to such a disastrously catastrophic and fundamental constitutional change, if even they realise or appreciate that this is what happened at all, understand why these issues arose, analyse them with brutal honesty, and fix the underlying problem. To the rest of Europe, indeed to the rest of the world, the UK - not in that it left the EU but in how it went about this - demonstrated the full extent of its constitutional sham, its masquerade of a democracy which it has been mendaciously selling to both the world and itself for generations, the deplorable lack of political agency and citizen-status enjoyed by British people, an even more deplorable ignorance on their part of how the world actually works, and a resultant delusional notion of what the UK's place is within that world. Worse, "Brexit", all that has happened in its aftermath, and especially the level of public discourse about the issues it raised has advertised that, if anything, these deep failings in the UK polity are growing in size and effect and driving the country ever further from those basic functions, practices, principles and inherent rights which define a democracy within the rest of the civilised world. You want to rejoin the EU? Become a democracy, properly constituted and at least equivalent therefore to the other nations which comprise that organisation. In the past it was enough to assert that, despite all indications to the contrary, you were still a "democracy", but just one that did things its own way". This has been exposed as the lie that it has always been, and never again will any sane group of democratic countries allow anything so mendaciously contagious within its orbit. Not without fundamental reform. Get that sorted first.
The first step to dealing with a problem is understanding and accepting that you have a problem. It has taken years to get past the first step. You are correct that we have a huge mountain to reclimb. Now we are finally seeing it. I do hope we get back in. I think that moving closer to the EU will ease a lot of the problems we have incurred. My biggest worry is that we have not fully unmasked the people behind it and they can try something else. For the first time is 7 years I feel that we have opened a window and let the fresh air in. We should not stop chasing this.
We never voted to join the EU...it was ram-raided by John Major via the Maastricht fiasco 1992. No consultation with the voters whatsoever. Leaving the EU was inevitable. We were the cash cow of Europe; we got cheap EU labour forced on us driving down our wages.
whilst valid points you miss one part, and that is the damage done cannot be fixed by re-joining. It is possible to re-join in principle and the EU would welcome that however we know that the UK cannot re-join and assume it will retrieve it's old status and position within the EU which was unique at the time. The UK had the VERY BEST conditions that were tolerated by the other members who enjoyed the positive aspects that the UK brought. The UK set and recommended MOST of the rules and regulations within the EU that the conservative criminals pretend were "forced upon the UK". The UK enjoyed many perks such as a permanent opt out clause of the monetary union (the Euro) meaning as a member the UK could easily regulate and control the value of its own currency and adjust accordingly in bad times yet still remain a member. These things will not be possible even when re-joining. The EU rule is that ALL "new" members must adopt the Euro. Re-joining for the UK will be tantamount to being a "new" member. The UK is INDEED at the back of the queue (as Obama stated) and the UK - if it were to re-join - will have to accept the Euro currency, the UK will not regain its unique position and as such the prospect of re-joining is almost as dark as it has now become. The UK has permanently damaged itself and will have to adjust to that. It doesn't have an empire anymore, it is politically a lightweight and now a seriously mistrusted nation and will simply have to deal with that going forward. Dark days ahead. Brace yourselves.
Love it. Thanks for making those points Alistair. The country has to realise it has made a huge mistake before there can be agreement on how to put it right.
Peoples have te think about the way they build up their opinion and vote. Bad decisions responsibility cannot be cast only on Johnson and Farage. A lot of peoples said back in the days theses guys were lying. Peoples who voted for the Brexit choose not to listen, and rather listen to the lies, because it was prettier for their ears. Guys, you know now that democracy is not about having the choice, it's about having the responsibility, and voting carefully about what seems to be the wisest one, not the prettiest one. Do that, or democracy is dead. Next time, it will just be another lie, form another politician, on another subject. If lying works, they will lie, obviously. It's up to peoples to be smart enough not to fall for the lies.
@@rogerlapin9809 in fact, nearly no one is interested in the UK or talks about brexit anymore. We moved on. I am speaking of common people. The last time brexit was mentioned around friends was months ago.
@@elipa3 Not true. I'm still interested in Brexit and the possibility of rejoining, and so is every sane person in the country who wants to rescue our economy and standing in the world.
The brexit Paradox is that any govt capable of delivering brexit wouldn't. The brexit reality is that voters clever enough to decode brexit would reject it.
@@puffins4007 The entire country lost, which is why support for rejoining the EU is increasing, even among those who voted to Leave in 2016. Those who need to “grow up” are those who treat the entire thing as a football match. Politics doesn’t work like that; it is never over. As for “getting on with things”, people are eminently capable of doing more than one thing at once.
@@just_some_guy_on_the_internet It makes me laugh when remoaners are on the back foot when their beloved EU is in trouble. Barnier recently said that the EU did not want the UK back, the EU then went into recession and surprise, surprise he then said we were welcome to come back, I wonder why. Even the party tipped to run Germany after the next election want the EU dissolved and a return to a common market approach. The UK will never return to the EU as our financial services would never accept the loss of the pound and the adoption of the euro as our currency. So I suggest remoaners just accept the situation and get on with their lives and accept that they have to que at border control.
@@puffins4007 “You told me not to play with matches but I did it anyway. So you’ll just have to accept that the curtains are now a raging fire and get on with things.”
There was such a lot of warnings, based on facts. Nearly all things that happened in the last years were predicted. It was predicted, that prices for imports would rise. It was predicted, labour shortages would happen. It was predicted, travelling would be more complicated and more expensive. All these warnings were predicted, but these people preferred the ideology of brexit. I remember discussing labour shortages long before brexit did really happen, must have been 5 or 6 years ago. We talked about the NHS, how EU citizens would leave and how difficult it would be, to get replacements. But these people preferred ideology over common sense. I dont pity them. Everyone could get a lot of information about the things to come. One or two hours at the Internet would have done, what it means, if you make imports and exports much more difficult. I pity people who voted against brexit, knowing what would happen. Their forecasts were dismissed as project fear. Now its project here. They are in this mess too. Deary me, I spend more time at the internet to inform me about which bicycle I should buy, than these people spent about the consequences of brexit and the future of the country. I have no compassion.
By ideology, I assume you're being kind and avoiding directly saying "racism'. Is there any doubt left at all that the vast majority of Leave voters did so mainly because they wanted Britain to be "more white"?
Referendums are all about being more clever than your opponent to convince the voters of your cause - personally, I pity remoaners because they are stupid losers.
There are Labour shortages across Europe you plank. How has traveling become more complicated and expensive? examples not sound bites. The NHS recruits from around the world more than it ever did from Europe. Your whole statement was just basically lies and nonsense
Yes, people were lied to but they were also rather stupid to believe the lies. After all it does not take all that much to realize that cutting yourself off from your largest market was never going to be a success story. You only had to take a closer look at prominent Brexit supporters to conclude that they were only interested in advancing their personal gain and any downside was hary going to impact them personally.
I don't think Alastair Campbell was going to say to an audience of Brexit leave voters "You were stupid". However, cognitive dissonance makes it difficult to accept when you have been stupid; so him saying you bought a lie is a way to start the resolution process of wishes versus reality.
Best thing Britain can do is start the process of rejoining the E.U. swallow your pride and stop waisting time before all your small to medium business's go bust
Let me know how that goes. You take, take, take from Westminster, yet the gap between rich and poor is far greater in Scotland than the England and less teenagers go onto Uni, despite it being paid for. The SNP run the NHS and education and what a mess they are in.
Yes Andrew so much for daft Denzils nonsense about our SNP Government. We in Scotland know better. Our NHS, our economy and our education system are twice as good as Engerland. We have given the Ununited Kingdom all our assets and still you think we should help you bailout Thames waters 65 billion deficeit while they gave their shareholders billions in bonuses. Scotland have our own water owned by us the people of Scotland. We are fed up listening to these lies of Little Engerlanders. Westminster is finished it's time to drain swamp and Scotland is no longer a willing partner in this disgraceful, disgusting parody called UK.
We all know Andrew Scotland is taking back control of our assets just as we did with our water. Scotland's only hope is Independence. Most of us know it and we will achieve it very very soon.
Ah yes, the same factors which other European countries also deal with are the main drivers of inflation, not the fact that we left a giant economic market. Thanks torries
Well done Alastair. Remainers should try to understand why people mistakenly believed in Brexit: they were lied to and, although I believe they were naive, it is not time to blame people. We need to look to return to the EU.
They were not just naive. They enjoyed to listen to the little nationalist and racist music. That is a big problem. And that should be solved. About rejoining, it's not up to you anymore, it's up to the EU now. Nothing you can do about it. Solve your problems then.
Name one thing that has benefitted the uk people from being in the EU. The answer none. Since being in the EU, things have gone downhill for the people in the UK.
In 2016, the UK was one of the fastest growing economies in the western world as a member of the EU. If it wasn't for the European club you would still be known as the "sick man of Europe". Be more humble and don't spit on the hand that fed you.
Better support with food? The UK is at the end of the supply chains now. Easier travelling? I cant remember these long waiting time at the borders. Better possibilities to sell british products in the EU? The price of british products has doubled. Most british products are replaced by irish ones meanwhile. Cheddar is produced in the ROI. Some time ago, Aldi sold "english winegums ". They were produced in France. The possibility to stay the whole year round in the EU, in Spain for instance? Now reduced to 90 days in 180 days.... Imports and exports much more difficult now due to additional red tape... Less nurses, doctors, engineers from the EU? Where do you get them now? From India, Pakistan, Africa? But brexiteers wanted less migration afaik. There is no magic nurses tree you can shake. Less paying students at the universities, less income for universities... Shall I continue?
Germany and The Netherlands are in recession, and other EU economies are looking very weak, the UK is not in recession, the EU is The Titanic. It has an ageing population, fewer workers, the number of large companies is diminishing.
@@lloydnaylor6113 We are not in recession. We are investing massively at the moment (UK is not) and relocating money. On a paper it looks something like “recession”, but it is far from it. Also our (Eurozone) inflation is heading to 1,3%. UK is in decline, but don’t mix it with the EU.
Coming rich from Campbell talking of Liars He and Tony Blair Lied to the country and took us into an illegal war killing innocent soldiers Blood on their hands and Both Traitors. Reading the comments saying Good for you Alister is sickening how can this be good a man responsible for taking lives? . Have you forgotten?
Last data i see on inflation is; UK 8.7%. EU average 7.1%. So, yes, UK is worse, but not dramatically so. Turkey is 24%. I feel GDP growth is a much more comprehensive measure as it includes consumption, investment, govt spending, exports, minus imports.
All Brexit did was give large corporations, who can afford to navigate the red tape, monopoly status over small businesses that will eventually go out of business. The economic landscape of Britain gets bleaker by the day.
Who could have predicted that the greatest act of economic self harm would result in economic problems...? Pretty much any economist with at least 1 GCSE in economics.
The people who voted Brexit are too arrogant to admit they were wrong. Fueled by this dream of self determination and perhaps a tinge of racist undertones; it is a globalised world, the world has changed. We need to keep up.
He's still utterly desperate to completely deregulate the British economy. As is Tice and the other jokers in Reform UK, who no doubt will pull candidates for the Tories in the general election, just as Farage did with both UKIP and his Brexit party grifts.
We all had access to the same information so the only reason people voted Leave was because they were intellectually stupid and couldn't follow a simple economic argument. Tell me I'm wrong if you can!
@@MRW515 The most compelling economic argument is that it's better to be part of the world's largest trading bloc than to not be in it. Of course, there are countless other solid economic arguments for being in the EU, which I would be happy to share but you would probably dismiss them as Project Fear.
Every household in the UK received a brochure about project fear, the BBC , most of the media were pro EU but they underestimated us knuckle scrapering soon to be pushing up daisies old farts 🤣
@@lloydnaylor6113 There was no project fear and there were no predictions. There were only scenarios put out by independent think tanks, world-leading economists, and the government's own OBR, which showed the likely effects of a no/hard/soft Brexit or WTO. If you heard any predictions then they probably came from something Gazza down the pub posted on social media or the tabloids. Ps. I'm assuming you know the difference between a prediction and a scenario, right?
@@voodooguy2 there was project fear, the brochure from the government the media whining about the consequences. An immediate recession according to Osborne was one comment, it didn't happen.
What exactly do you want to happen? What would be your ideal Brexit? Unless you want Britain to become a failed state like NK, guess what? You are gonna have to align your policies with internationally accepted standards, and in particular, with European regulations. It's hilarious how brexiteers actually thought they were gonna get Britain going rogue and forsaking their largest and wealthiest trading partner. Now you must follow the same regs without any of the benefits of free movement in people and goods. So stupid!
The one that removed the freedom of movement from the majority of uk citizens by a minority of brexit voters. If you unhappy with the brexit you got then that on brexit voters nobody else
keep blaming the populace for being "Too stupid to vote" im sure that middle class neo-liberal arrogance will have no negative consequences later down the line you deserve whats coming to you
So Basically the arguments for leaving and the campaign for leaving was much greater than that of remaining. Rightly or wrongly. The strong voices got what they wanted
I have never forgiven Campbell or Blair for the Iraq War and the death of thousands or even millions of people including Dr.Kelly because of their blatant lies and I voted Labour in both 1997 and 2001. I have never voted Tory in all of the 60 years I have been able to vote.
@@mikedon5205 To basically repeat what I just posted under another thread: Campbell was Blair's press advisor and spokesman, his PR man, his spin doctor and not the man charged with the final decision. Tony Blair was the Prime Minister, Campbell's job was to come up with ways to present those decisions and not to be the moral compass for high office. He was basically a salesman, and taken as such I'd say he did his job well. There's a lot you can pin on Blair, but being shit in front of the camera and appearing a clueless twat in anything but the hardest of the right wing press he was not. Campbell played a big part in that success.
@SilverbackMatt And yet here you are to bitch about it! Tell me something kid, is it all you dreamed of? Because I have yet to see cheaper clothes, food and any of this supposedly delicious "sovereign tea" in any of the supermarkets I've been to. I mean, I noticed the shorter dates and lack of availability almost as soon as we left the European single market and customs union, but I have yet to see any of Rees-Mogg's happy fish... Or happy fisherman for that matter.
@SilverbackMatt Suit yourself, keep posting childish nonsense. On the evidence I've seen, I doubt you're capable of much more. BTW I'm more of a centrist :)
Looking forward to BBC Question Time with only 2016 Remain voting audience to hear how many now think UK independence is a worthwhile thing. If we think about it, Remain was the 'safe' option and Leave the 'high-risk' option - so of those in 'two-minds' (perhaps 50%) many more would have opted for Remain than vice versa. This means many 2016 Remain voters will now be happy with UK independence...
What people didnt realise with brexit, and this is the primary reason we should have stayed, is that once we left we became prey for other large trading entities who only want to benefit themselves. The USA have had a trading deal in negotiating with us that specifically states "the UK cannot sign a trade agreement without express permission from the USA". This could never have been the case if we were in the EU. We foolishly did not understand the global economy we are in. We do not have economic allies. We are not a trading superpower. Yes we can stand on our own, but not like America. Not like China.
@@Iazzaboyce Corbyn did nothing in his entire history as an MP, with perhaps the exception of representing small groups of his electorate. Past pleasing party faithfuls in those small groups he couldn't lead, couldn't certainly lead the UK. And without a doubt couldn't defend himself to criticism either. He sank the Remain effort and was absolutely F*ing Useless, as they put it on Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
It's estimated that the main factor behind the cost of living and inflation situation is out-of-control corporate greed and unsustainable profiteering. Estimates put it at around 60% of the total effect on inflation. Profit-price spirals cause inflation, not wage-price spirals. Wage rise demands are always a result of inflation, never the cause.
@@PayneAdams-mp2zz deflection logical fallacy evidence required for "it's corporate profiteering" Once again which particular bit of brexit are you defending be specific?
they listened OK, just to the likes of Farage and Johnson... a weird mix of cynicism in mainstream politics and gullibility in populism... 100% of us have paid the price for that.
Brexiteers counting on an American trade deal is hilarious! America already has the equivalent in Canada, in walking distance. And for cheaper labor there lies Mexico to the South. And nobody is gonna replace China, America's economic drug of choice. Wtf was Britain bringing to the table for any significant trade deal with the U.S.?😂
“We know what we’re voting for” 4 years later. “We didn’t vote for this” (You did .. you voted for leaving the eu, not the unicorn version of brexit that never existed)
@@WH-hi5ew Yes, a democratic choice. Ireland, France and The Netherlands also had a democratic choice and voted for 'no further EU integration, they were told to vote again until they got the 'correct result'
@@jasonkingshott2971 An in our case it was a choice that costs our economy in the region of £500m per week - so our economy is about 2.5-3% worse off than it would have been with no Brexit (but with the recession, cost of living/inflation crisis, Ukraine etc that we didn't vote for). So far I cant see any upsides to Brexit - just a worse economy and more red tape (not less) for businesses. We have more immigration as well, less from EU countries but much more from the rest of the world.
@@WH-hi5ew Well, the UK never voted to join the EU organisation in the first place. The upsides?...thanks to the democratic majority of the UK who voted for sovereignty, independence from a corrupt, anti democratic, unaccountable, declining, protectionist, mafioso organisation run by a bunch of childish, vindictive, self serving, gravy train riding, free loading parasites. Leaving was about self governance, empowering the UK to make its own decisions. It does not set in stone what those decisions must be, it's back in the hands of the UK public and not in the hands of or shackled to Brussels.
@@donalhackett2231 The problem with you remoaners is that you do not like the UK outperforming the EU and you all go quiet. Suck it up, the decision to leave the EU will be vindicated despite the treacherous MP's and civil servants who along with the EU have tried to overturn the democratic vote in 2016.
@@RazorMouth So you think that Ireland is an independant country that can do what it likes and the EU is some kind of club where you can pick and choose what you adopt. Do you all have the same currency?, can you ignore any laws passed down from Brussels?, do you have to accept the number of migrants that Brussells tells you to accept or be find for every one you do not?, thought not. So you are all 27 tied together being ruled by a corrupt organisation, good luck with that.
@@puffins4007I remember recently enough Scotland tried to pass a law for the transgenders and found out pretty quickly it's not a sovereign nation. As for a corrupt organization, the only organization more corrupt than the UK is FIFA.
UK food inflation 18%. German French Dutch food inflation 6%. Same war. Same covid.
Unemployment - Uk 3.8%, Germany 5.6%, France 7.1%
@@Hereford1642😂 except the UK counts a person that works 1 day a week and claims benefits as "Employed" whereas the rest of Europe classes these people as unemployed - including Ireland who has a 4% unemployment rate, a true unemployment rate, which is essentially full employment for us.
Darn those pesky facts ehhh😂
@@RazorMouth The ONS says this:-
'The Office for National Statistics uses the International Labour Organisation (ILO) definition. This is the internationally agreed definition of unemployment. It is recommended by the ILO - an agency of the United Nations, and used by The Statistical Office of the European Union, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) and other countries.'
@@Hereford1642 put this into your search bar "uk unemployment rate is not accurate"
What a pile of rubbish. I have friends in Germany. Believe me there figures are far higher. You can't compare when different models are used.
Leaving EU here in Denmark, came to a grinding halt after seeing the consequence of Brexit.
Need to grow some balls...
That's what all this nonsense EU media is about, keeping the members worried lol, too scared to leave🤣🤣🤣
What consequences? Don't believe every whining remoaner rejoiner quisling from the UK or EU trolls.
@@ukqwerty999 so we don't hold all the cards 🤣🤣
Cognitive dissonance from brexit voters detected.
@@NeilCWCampbell You think i bother vote 🤣🤣🤣
Living on an island and voting to put up barriers. Great knowledgeable people.
The only barrier being put up is by the protectionist EU.
There are no tariffs. The eu added document handling charges. The UK has put up no barrier. Get real. The UK border is the only eu external border to get these added charges..
@@adrianrouse5148 get real u say. I've 40yrs experience in airfreight/road freight+ seafreight work. There are certain tariffs added post-brexit. Verifying country of origin is now paramount on car parts for example. Unsure if u don't know,or trying to convince the gullible neanderthals who voted for this
@@adrianrouse5148
What was the point of Brexit then?... To keep the foreigners out?
@@adrianrouse5148 No one is suggesting putting up barriers
We survived for thousands of years with out the EU.
I remember a couple who flew in from their retirement home in Spain to help Nigel with Brexit. O the irony
There is a very simply rule, if someone is promising that a decision that will result in HUGE upheaval and a massive change in how things are done will give nothing but benefits, they are lying. Even if you go for something that will end up beneficial, there will ALWAYS be downsides, it's just the nature of big changes.
So vote for the nobody? Vote for the one whose policies you don't like....DUMB!
Very true, our fortunes will rise & fall in or out of the EU, just as the EU themselves. They don't seem to be exactly roaring ahead of us!
It wasn't just a lie it was promises and assurances provided by unqualified politicians with a hidden agenda. The majority of economists warned against Brexit.
@@TPT6148
Let me guess, you're one of those who thinks recessions last forever right?...
Rupert plants the seeds. When people hear a politician lying, they have a degree of skepticism. When all the newspapers agree and echo and reinforce the message, it gives the impression of a consensus. But those papers are all owned by ane represent a billionaire tax dodging class, literally 1%.
The genius of conservatism has been to present the billionaire interest as the working man's interest, and a corrupt media did this. The BBC echoing it endlessly is criminal.
I remember being laughed at at work when I said Brexit would make everything more expensive.
I suppose now we're not in the EU - they think of you as a 'mover and shaker' lol.
🤣 still laughing at you , you whining remoaner rejoiner.
I remember when you lot cried like babies when you lost. The EU is punishing the UK for having the balls to stnd up to the corrupt EU and you lot still cry give it a dam rest ffs.
Did they not know how intelligent you are 😉
@@timcomley5948 It’s more to do with common sense than intelligence or having experience of trading in imports and exports.
Alastair Campbell - the best demolition of Brexit in 2 minutes - well said !
Unfortunately he is also a poisonous, mendacious war criminal who along with Blair misled the people of Britain using 'weapons of mass destruction' as a fig leaf to invade Iraq.
The ordinary Joe in the Street wasn't in the position to have all the information about the finances that are involved in leaving the EU, the Tories took advantage of this and lied and conned the British People and preyed on their fears.We should never forgive them for the damage they have done ,they would do anything to remain in power ,the British public can now see them for what they are, self serving liars..!!😡
We were all lied too!!!!
wow campbell knows how to argue. spot on.
Never thought I'd agree with Campbell so strongly...strange times!
Would that be the same man who lied to UK voters about weapons of mass destruction?, what makes you convinced he is not lying now?. He should be in prison with his boss Blair.
@@danielwood2901 Agreed, I am a Northern ireland protestant. Family in the Police and Military. Grew up with my Grandfather and Uncles in uniform, followed by my cousins. Yet they all admit unification of some sort is down the road.
I don't agree with the idea of not blaming cretinous Brexit voters, like the ones in this crowd. Their credulous nature has harmed the UK. They're idiots.
He’s become a voice of strong reason in the last few years I believe
For this Australian, Anand is constantly a clear explanation of UK political-economy.
😂😂 You get what you vote for!!...Every expert in economics said this would happen...There is an old saying "if u won't listen u will feel" well they did not listen and now they can feel the consequences...
....and what's more, we're not even close to rock bottom. That's about a decade away.
@SilverbackMatt .....no actually I was imagining a Tory government being back in power by then, after five years of Labour.
That's how stupid much of the British electorate is...that they would rather have a party in power that doesn't have their best interests at heart, and laughs at them; than have one who have a better record of social justice, and who don't have an irrational hatred of Europe in general.... not just the EU.
As for voting Reform UK - are you mad?! lol ...I wouldn't go anywhere near them with loons like Anne Widecombe, Laurence Fox, and Alex Phillips in their party.
@SilverbackMatt Is that when most of reforms support dies of old age?
@SilverbackMatt Can you explain how Reform will change the UK and the steps required to get there? Or is it all just sound bites that sound good to you and you support that?
@@robtyman4281 Sadly you are right. It will take a decade for us to understand how much investment and infrastructure we have lost.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. George Carlin
Great phrase but no originally his!
You are obviously referring to remoaners.
@@puffins4007Dude, it’s 2023. There are no “remoaners” any more. There are however an increasing number of people who would opt to rejoin the EU if the opportunity presented itself - including a fair number of people who voted Leave in 2016. The former “remoaners” turned out to be right. Not so stupid, then.
@@just_some_guy_on_the_internet You are having a laugh. We have remoaners everywhere in Westminster, including the civil service, who are still fighting tooth and nail to get us to rejoin. These people are the people who have not delivered Brexit to its full extent and should be ashamed that they have gone against a democratic vote in 2016.
@@puffins4007
Nope, he was referring to Brexit supporters.
Answer to the question posed: NO.
Anyone that voted leave in 2016 was gullible, naive and easily fooled. Anyone that still supports it today is simply thick.
Some are benefiting from it on the financial markets betting against the pound, or simply good old fashion xenophobia.
My guess is because the debate was so bitter its difficult to admit now to being wrong
@@mikedon5205 I agree. Mark Twain once wrote "It's easier to fool a man than to convince him he's been fooled". That's because in order to fool him you have to defeat his intellect but to convince him he's been fooled means defeating his pride and most people's pride is stronger than their intellect.
Not everybody was as clever as you, dub.
Voted OUT based purely on the facts...and 47 wasted years of membership which brought no benefits.
While brexit is not the ONLY cause it is a significant factor and has made the current crisis worse. To deny this is to deny basic facts
Like a lot of school children who think the consequences of their actions are nothing to do with them - it's all the headmaster's fault, miss!
The fact that the headmaster's was a liar, which everyone but the dunces could see through, led us to this sorry state.
Unfortunately they are grown-ups, and deemed as mentally competent to vote - so they are actually to blame.
Modern England in a nutshell.
If I want to buy a bicycle, I spend more time to inform me about which bicycle I should buy, than these people spent about the consequences of brexit and the future of the country.
Even some school children have more common sense.
Stay lied as well. We wanted sovereignty. The vitriolled from the remainers, the moral superiority, the fact what they thought was morally right, was enough to make people vote out.
Define sorry state
Cost of living not caused by Brexit? How come all other European countries do much better then?
Exactly, wage inflation (No freedom of movement) Supply side inflation (Restricted access to suppliers) Food inflation (30% of UK food is from EU). We did this to ourselves under the full knowledge of its repercussions.
Have you been to Europe this year? Prices up 30 percent or more across board. Riots in France, Sweden, Spain youth unemployment at 50 percent...and Ukraine are getting bombed to pieces. Funny definition of 'doing better'
@@god1971b About time we started producing our own food then. Plus Germany's bank is on the point of needing to be rescued, which will affect all the EU.
@@denzel270what bank? You are just making things up.
@@denzel270he's just regurgitating right-wing propaganda from the Tories. To make them feel good about voting themselves out of the largest market and turning the uk into a 3rd world country.
Alister told the truth surrounded by Brexit supporting panel. BRAVO!
Campbell the bully is obsessed by Brexit. He is amongst those of the political classes who have totally undermined people's faith in politicians due to his spinning and behaviour.
@@denzel270As opposed to all those truth telling Tories that lied to you and the rest of the nation, don't be a Muppet if you're going to troll at least be good at it.
@@MagicMike-n6u you do realise Alastair Campbell is a pathological liar.
@@denzel270your comments explain why some people never learn and will always fall for con men. Not sure if its low IQ, stupidity, ignorance but Brexit only won because of people with these traits
@@denzel270 We don't care about his past but what he delivers now. He is delivering, Brexit is not.
I agree with you Alistair, Johnson should not be forgiven. And you shouldn't be forgiven for the destruction of Iraq and the deaths of our service men and women.
This is brilliant! An all Brexit voting audience, pretty much acknowledged they now know they were lied to, with that round of applause.
These so called 'Brexiteers' who have apparently changed their mind are actually Remain voters. This is classic propaganda to undermine the Leave vote and encourage people to change their mind. The UK parliament is 85% pro-EU - if they wanted a second referendum they would have had a second referendum. The only reason there has not been a second referendum is they know it would destroy the pro-EU case forever. This 'Europe' thing has always been a top-down minority ideological imposition on the British people.
They probably were applauding they were lied to by project fear.
Brexit has no benefits…….nothing
@@danielwood2901It would've been easier for you to move before Brexit.
Don't say that, we used to fly from Spain to the UK quite often, now we drive to France instead, we go across the border and they don't even look at us (most of the time there's no one there) and we spend our holidays in France, so there are benefits.. ....for the french.
@@BeemerTwelve you confusing moving with going on holiday.
This is why we need an educational standard before voting in future
There is undoubtedly a growing caucus of opinion in the UK that the country should never have ceased being part of the EU. However translating this growing opinion into action towards that end is a challenge that, as yet, the people of the UK have proved they are unable to achieve. First, an equally large caucus must address the issues that led to such a disastrously catastrophic and fundamental constitutional change, if even they realise or appreciate that this is what happened at all, understand why these issues arose, analyse them with brutal honesty, and fix the underlying problem.
To the rest of Europe, indeed to the rest of the world, the UK - not in that it left the EU but in how it went about this - demonstrated the full extent of its constitutional sham, its masquerade of a democracy which it has been mendaciously selling to both the world and itself for generations, the deplorable lack of political agency and citizen-status enjoyed by British people, an even more deplorable ignorance on their part of how the world actually works, and a resultant delusional notion of what the UK's place is within that world. Worse, "Brexit", all that has happened in its aftermath, and especially the level of public discourse about the issues it raised has advertised that, if anything, these deep failings in the UK polity are growing in size and effect and driving the country ever further from those basic functions, practices, principles and inherent rights which define a democracy within the rest of the civilised world.
You want to rejoin the EU? Become a democracy, properly constituted and at least equivalent therefore to the other nations which comprise that organisation. In the past it was enough to assert that, despite all indications to the contrary, you were still a "democracy", but just one that did things its own way". This has been exposed as the lie that it has always been, and never again will any sane group of democratic countries allow anything so mendaciously contagious within its orbit.
Not without fundamental reform. Get that sorted first.
Great comment.
I continue to live in an oxymoronic state of pessimistic hope.
:-(
The first step to dealing with a problem is understanding and accepting that you have a problem. It has taken years to get past the first step. You are correct that we have a huge mountain to reclimb. Now we are finally seeing it. I do hope we get back in. I think that moving closer to the EU will ease a lot of the problems we have incurred.
My biggest worry is that we have not fully unmasked the people behind it and they can try something else.
For the first time is 7 years I feel that we have opened a window and let the fresh air in. We should not stop chasing this.
We never voted to join the EU...it was ram-raided by John Major via the Maastricht fiasco 1992.
No consultation with the voters whatsoever.
Leaving the EU was inevitable.
We were the cash cow of Europe; we got cheap EU labour forced on us driving down our wages.
Basically another Charles De Gaul
Non non non to UK joining the EEC
whilst valid points you miss one part, and that is the damage done cannot be fixed by re-joining. It is possible to re-join in principle and the EU would welcome that however we know that the UK cannot re-join and assume it will retrieve it's old status and position within the EU which was unique at the time. The UK had the VERY BEST conditions that were tolerated by the other members who enjoyed the positive aspects that the UK brought. The UK set and recommended MOST of the rules and regulations within the EU that the conservative criminals pretend were "forced upon the UK". The UK enjoyed many perks such as a permanent opt out clause of the monetary union (the Euro) meaning as a member the UK could easily regulate and control the value of its own currency and adjust accordingly in bad times yet still remain a member. These things will not be possible even when re-joining. The EU rule is that ALL "new" members must adopt the Euro. Re-joining for the UK will be tantamount to being a "new" member. The UK is INDEED at the back of the queue (as Obama stated) and the UK - if it were to re-join - will have to accept the Euro currency, the UK will not regain its unique position and as such the prospect of re-joining is almost as dark as it has now become. The UK has permanently damaged itself and will have to adjust to that. It doesn't have an empire anymore, it is politically a lightweight and now a seriously mistrusted nation and will simply have to deal with that going forward. Dark days ahead. Brace yourselves.
Leaving EU it was all about immigration let's be honest
Love it. Thanks for making those points Alistair. The country has to realise it has made a huge mistake before there can be agreement on how to put it right.
Peoples have te think about the way they build up their opinion and vote. Bad decisions responsibility cannot be cast only on Johnson and Farage. A lot of peoples said back in the days theses guys were lying. Peoples who voted for the Brexit choose not to listen, and rather listen to the lies, because it was prettier for their ears.
Guys, you know now that democracy is not about having the choice, it's about having the responsibility, and voting carefully about what seems to be the wisest one, not the prettiest one.
Do that, or democracy is dead. Next time, it will just be another lie, form another politician, on another subject. If lying works, they will lie, obviously. It's up to peoples to be smart enough not to fall for the lies.
Have you considered euthanasia?
Will take decades, probably...
@@rogerlapin9809 in fact, nearly no one is interested in the UK or talks about brexit anymore. We moved on.
I am speaking of common people. The last time brexit was mentioned around friends was months ago.
@@elipa3 Not true. I'm still interested in Brexit and the possibility of rejoining, and so is every sane person in the country who wants to rescue our economy and standing in the world.
Good for Alistair.
I am to this day relieved that in 2014 I immigrated to an EU country, it was one of the best decisions of my life.
Profiteering too.
Campbell lectures us about government lies?
Oh the delicious irony!
He’s not wrong on this one by the way!
That last sentence... Couldn't agree more!
Alastair Campbell 👏👏👏👏👏
The brexit Paradox is that any govt capable of delivering brexit wouldn't. The brexit reality is that voters clever enough to decode brexit would reject it.
There we go again remoaners thinking they are more clever, please grow up, accept you lost and get on with things.
@@puffins4007 The entire country lost, which is why support for rejoining the EU is increasing, even among those who voted to Leave in 2016. Those who need to “grow up” are those who treat the entire thing as a football match. Politics doesn’t work like that; it is never over. As for “getting on with things”, people are eminently capable of doing more than one thing at once.
@@just_some_guy_on_the_internet It makes me laugh when remoaners are on the back foot when their beloved EU is in trouble. Barnier recently said that the EU did not want the UK back, the EU then went into recession and surprise, surprise he then said we were welcome to come back, I wonder why. Even the party tipped to run Germany after the next election want the EU dissolved and a return to a common market approach. The UK will never return to the EU as our financial services would never accept the loss of the pound and the adoption of the euro as our currency. So I suggest remoaners just accept the situation and get on with their lives and accept that they have to que at border control.
@@puffins4007
“You told me not to play with matches but I did it anyway. So you’ll just have to accept that the curtains are now a raging fire and get on with things.”
@@magnificentbastard5085 And for the English speaking amongst us?.
Well said Mr CAMPBELL!!! Thank YOU for saying the TRUTH!
King of the Liars!
Wilko has gone bankrupt. Which company will disappear from the market next after Brexit?😂
There was such a lot of warnings, based on facts. Nearly all things that happened in the last years were predicted.
It was predicted, that prices for imports would rise. It was predicted, labour shortages would happen. It was predicted, travelling would be more complicated and more expensive.
All these warnings were predicted, but these people preferred the ideology of brexit. I remember discussing labour shortages long before brexit did really happen, must have been 5 or 6 years ago. We talked about the NHS, how EU citizens would leave and how difficult it would be, to get replacements.
But these people preferred ideology over common sense.
I dont pity them. Everyone could get a lot of information about the things to come. One or two hours at the Internet would have done, what it means, if you make imports and exports much more difficult.
I pity people who voted against brexit, knowing what would happen. Their forecasts were dismissed as project fear. Now its project here. They are in this mess too.
Deary me, I spend more time at the internet to inform me about which bicycle I should buy, than these people spent about the consequences of brexit and the future of the country.
I have no compassion.
By ideology, I assume you're being kind and avoiding directly saying "racism'. Is there any doubt left at all that the vast majority of Leave voters did so mainly because they wanted Britain to be "more white"?
Referendums are all about being more clever than your opponent to convince the voters of your cause - personally, I pity remoaners because they are stupid losers.
@@nowandrew4442 You really are thick
There are Labour shortages across Europe you plank. How has traveling become more complicated and expensive? examples not sound bites. The NHS recruits from around the world more than it ever did from Europe. Your whole statement was just basically lies and nonsense
You don't need to pity the Brexit voters. But you can pity the Remain voters and everyone under 25 today.
Some of these people are so uninformed and listed to the shit they were lied to about
Alastair Campbell 👍
They had to be barking mad to believe the big red bus was actually true.
Yes, people were lied to but they were also rather stupid to believe the lies. After all it does not take all that much to realize that cutting yourself off from your largest market was never going to be a success story. You only had to take a closer look at prominent Brexit supporters to conclude that they were only interested in advancing their personal gain and any downside was hary going to impact them personally.
I don't think Alastair Campbell was going to say to an audience of Brexit leave voters "You were stupid". However, cognitive dissonance makes it difficult to accept when you have been stupid; so him saying you bought a lie is a way to start the resolution process of wishes versus reality.
Best thing Britain can do is start the process of rejoining the E.U. swallow your pride and stop waisting time before all your small to medium business's go bust
Roll on Scottish independence!!
Saor Alba 🏴
The EU keeps the lights on for Scotland.
Let me know how that goes. You take, take, take from Westminster, yet the gap between rich and poor is far greater in Scotland than the England and less teenagers go onto Uni, despite it being paid for. The SNP run the NHS and education and what a mess they are in.
Yes Andrew so much for daft Denzils nonsense about our SNP Government. We in Scotland know better. Our NHS, our economy and our education system are twice as good as Engerland. We have given the Ununited Kingdom all our assets and still you think we should help you bailout Thames waters 65 billion deficeit while they gave their shareholders billions in bonuses. Scotland have our own water owned by us the people of Scotland. We are fed up listening to these lies of Little Engerlanders. Westminster is finished it's time to drain swamp and Scotland is no longer a willing partner in this disgraceful, disgusting parody called UK.
@@denzel270 Then you must be very happy to get rid of them?
We all know Andrew Scotland is taking back control of our assets just as we did with our water. Scotland's only hope is Independence. Most of us know it and we will achieve it very very soon.
Ah yes, the same factors which other European countries also deal with are the main drivers of inflation, not the fact that we left a giant economic market. Thanks torries
Well said Alistair Campbell !
Alistair Campbell has had the greatest redemption arc in UK politics.
Well done Alastair. Remainers should try to understand why people mistakenly believed in Brexit: they were lied to and, although I believe they were naive, it is not time to blame people. We need to look to return to the EU.
Who cares what a minority of illeducated people think.
Brexit voters should pay for brexit
They were not just naive. They enjoyed to listen to the little nationalist and racist music. That is a big problem. And that should be solved. About rejoining, it's not up to you anymore, it's up to the EU now. Nothing you can do about it. Solve your problems then.
Name one thing that has benefitted the uk people from being in the EU. The answer none. Since being in the EU, things have gone downhill for the people in the UK.
In 2016, the UK was one of the fastest growing economies in the western world as a member of the EU.
If it wasn't for the European club you would still be known as the "sick man of Europe".
Be more humble and don't spit on the hand that fed you.
Better support with food? The UK is at the end of the supply chains now.
Easier travelling? I cant remember these long waiting time at the borders.
Better possibilities to sell british products in the EU? The price of british products has doubled. Most british products are replaced by irish ones meanwhile. Cheddar is produced in the ROI.
Some time ago, Aldi sold "english winegums ". They were produced in France.
The possibility to stay the whole year round in the EU, in Spain for instance? Now reduced to 90 days in 180 days....
Imports and exports much more difficult now due to additional red tape...
Less nurses, doctors, engineers from the EU? Where do you get them now? From India, Pakistan, Africa? But brexiteers wanted less migration afaik. There is no magic nurses tree you can shake.
Less paying students at the universities, less income for universities...
Shall I continue?
I disagreed strongly with Campbell and Blair on Iraq, but Campbell is absolutely right here.
OMG that was war They talk about brexshitter 😂
Suspicious cut-off?
WOW was my reaction when this video ended.... he bloody nailed it....
Celebrating your loss of freedom of movement what the he'll is that all about
BoZo said that the brexshit will be a Titanic Success 🎉 Well he lied 🤥 It will be more like Titanic Submarine Success 🤔 Brace for the impact 👍
Germany and The Netherlands are in recession, and other EU economies are looking very weak, the UK is not in recession, the EU is The Titanic. It has an ageing population, fewer workers, the number of large companies is diminishing.
@@MRW515 You stick with that line 👍
@@verttikoo2052 we all are, dispute the facts!
@@lloydnaylor6113 We are not in recession. We are investing massively at the moment (UK is not) and relocating money. On a paper it looks something like “recession”, but it is far from it. Also our (Eurozone) inflation is heading to 1,3%. UK is in decline, but don’t mix it with the EU.
Maybe a very small part, but it always would for a few years we only left in 2020, give it till 2040.
Good man Campbell! 🤌
Well, it's kinda all obvious, but yeah kudos to Campbell for calling it as it is👏
Well said👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
And we have only ever been lied to by CAMPBELL
Good for you Alistair, well said!
I would not believe a word that man says, he should be in prison along with Blair.
I agree with puffins4007....
I life long con voter. Will not be at next GE. I know when i've been had. Shame Liebour supporters don't!
Coming rich from Campbell talking of Liars He and Tony Blair Lied to the country and took us into an illegal war killing innocent soldiers Blood on their hands and Both Traitors.
Reading the comments saying Good for you Alister is sickening how can this be good a man responsible for taking lives? . Have you forgotten?
Last data i see on inflation is; UK 8.7%. EU average 7.1%. So, yes, UK is worse, but not dramatically so. Turkey is 24%. I feel GDP growth is a much more comprehensive measure as it includes consumption, investment, govt spending, exports, minus imports.
Dutch inflation peaked at 17.4%, German inflation peaked at a higher rate than the UK, indeed the Baltic States peaked at over 20%.
Well done Alastair!!
Unlike the war in Iraq
The printing of billions of pounds
ie: inflating the currency = inflation
And in France 🇫🇷
And Ireland 🇮🇪 😂
We did warn them.
In the Netherlands too hahahaha , stupid Brexshiteers hahaha .
All Brexit did was give large corporations, who can afford to navigate the red tape, monopoly status over small businesses that will eventually go out of business. The economic landscape of Britain gets bleaker by the day.
Who could have predicted that the greatest act of economic self harm would result in economic problems...? Pretty much any economist with at least 1 GCSE in economics.
‘we will be better off on day one’ 😂
The people who voted Brexit are too arrogant to admit they were wrong. Fueled by this dream of self determination and perhaps a tinge of racist undertones; it is a globalised world, the world has changed. We need to keep up.
Oh don't blame Brexit then, that only leaves the Tories to blame and of course Brexit that the `Tories told you lies about.
Please don't excuse the fool Habib for Brexit.
Habib is a total liar. Can't believe Campbell didnt stick his boot in.
He's still utterly desperate to completely deregulate the British economy.
As is Tice and the other jokers in Reform UK, who no doubt will pull candidates for the Tories in the general election, just as Farage did with both UKIP and his Brexit party grifts.
This is rich coming from Campbell, people have short memories regarding his part in taking us into the Iraq war, wake up you lot 🤦♂️
Deflection logical fallacy
Can't see where anyone defending the Iraq war.
We all had access to the same information so the only reason people voted Leave was because they were intellectually stupid and couldn't follow a simple economic argument. Tell me I'm wrong if you can!
Which economic argument are you referring to?
@@MRW515 The most compelling economic argument is that it's better to be part of the world's largest trading bloc than to not be in it. Of course, there are countless other solid economic arguments for being in the EU, which I would be happy to share but you would probably dismiss them as Project Fear.
Every household in the UK received a brochure about project fear, the BBC , most of the media were pro EU but they underestimated us knuckle scrapering soon to be pushing up daisies old farts 🤣
@@lloydnaylor6113 There was no project fear and there were no predictions. There were only scenarios put out by independent think tanks, world-leading economists, and the government's own OBR, which showed the likely effects of a no/hard/soft Brexit or WTO. If you heard any predictions then they probably came from something Gazza down the pub posted on social media or the tabloids. Ps. I'm assuming you know the difference between a prediction and a scenario, right?
@@voodooguy2 there was project fear, the brochure from the government the media whining about the consequences. An immediate recession according to Osborne was one comment, it didn't happen.
it is britishs' fault to believe in unicorns :)
Brexit, what Brexit? I’m still waiting.
What exactly do you want to happen? What would be your ideal Brexit? Unless you want Britain to become a failed state like NK, guess what? You are gonna have to align your policies with internationally accepted standards, and in particular, with European regulations. It's hilarious how brexiteers actually thought they were gonna get Britain going rogue and forsaking their largest and wealthiest trading partner. Now you must follow the same regs without any of the benefits of free movement in people and goods. So stupid!
The one that removed the freedom of movement from the majority of uk citizens by a minority of brexit voters.
If you unhappy with the brexit you got then that on brexit voters nobody else
Fiona visibly cringing as someone says something nasty about Boris Johnson.
I don't like Boris Johnson, but he can't be blamed for people's own stupidity to vote for something they did no research of their own on
Why can't he be blamed?
@@grrr.9998 I explained that in the comment.....
Every household got a brochure explaining the benefits of EU membership, paid for by the taxpayer.
keep blaming the populace for being "Too stupid to vote" im sure that middle class neo-liberal arrogance will have no negative consequences later down the line
you deserve whats coming to you
Alistair Campbell would blame the firebombing of Dresden on brexit.
Well said Alastair never seen such a Good example of Self Harm in our Nation as Britexit.
Thank you Farage & Johnson
So Basically the arguments for leaving and the campaign for leaving was much greater than that of remaining. Rightly or wrongly. The strong voices got what they wanted
A remainer only showing one side of the argument. Shock
Excellent
Which particular bit of brexit are you defending be specific 😂😂
I have never forgiven Campbell or Blair for the Iraq War and the death of thousands or even millions of people including Dr.Kelly because of their blatant lies and I voted Labour in both 1997 and 2001. I have never voted Tory in all of the 60 years I have been able to vote.
Yeah but Alistairs past actions are irrelevant in relation to what he is currently saying, which I totally 100% support.
Agreed on iraq that said regardless who was pm , tory or Labour they would have gladly followed America into a war in Iraq
@@mikedon5205
To basically repeat what I just posted under another thread:
Campbell was Blair's press advisor and spokesman, his PR man, his spin doctor and not the man charged with the final decision.
Tony Blair was the Prime Minister, Campbell's job was to come up with ways to present those decisions and not to be the moral compass for high office.
He was basically a salesman, and taken as such I'd say he did his job well.
There's a lot you can pin on Blair, but being shit in front of the camera and appearing a clueless twat in anything but the hardest of the right wing press he was not.
Campbell played a big part in that success.
@SilverbackMatt
And yet here you are to bitch about it!
Tell me something kid, is it all you dreamed of?
Because I have yet to see cheaper clothes, food and any of this supposedly delicious "sovereign tea" in any of the supermarkets I've been to.
I mean, I noticed the shorter dates and lack of availability almost as soon as we left the European single market and customs union, but I have yet to see any of Rees-Mogg's happy fish... Or happy fisherman for that matter.
@SilverbackMatt we are sucking it up unfortunately 😆 🤣
no shame in being a brexiteer......................................................that's the problem
Found these Iraqui weapons of mass destruction yet Campbell ?
That's not the point here though is it ?
whatabout
@SilverbackMatt lol we have a boris fanboy here
@SilverbackMatt Lol ... Grow up
@SilverbackMatt Suit yourself, keep posting childish nonsense. On the evidence I've seen, I doubt you're capable of much more.
BTW I'm more of a centrist :)
Looking forward to BBC Question Time with only 2016 Remain voting audience to hear how many now think UK independence is a worthwhile thing. If we think about it, Remain was the 'safe' option and Leave the 'high-risk' option - so of those in 'two-minds' (perhaps 50%) many more would have opted for Remain than vice versa. This means many 2016 Remain voters will now be happy with UK independence...
BBC viewer? Daily Mirror or Grundian reader perhaps?
@@lloydnaylor6113 Why you say this?
@@Iazzaboycewhy do you ask?
@@NeilCWCampbell Why do you need to ask - is it because you eat all that porridge?
@@Iazzaboyce so no answer.
Remember it other readers you trying to convince 😔
What people didnt realise with brexit, and this is the primary reason we should have stayed, is that once we left we became prey for other large trading entities who only want to benefit themselves.
The USA have had a trading deal in negotiating with us that specifically states "the UK cannot sign a trade agreement without express permission from the USA". This could never have been the case if we were in the EU. We foolishly did not understand the global economy we are in. We do not have economic allies. We are not a trading superpower. Yes we can stand on our own, but not like America. Not like China.
That was predicted.
@@elipa3 The general public had no idea. There was some small amount of awareness, but it was never discussed in any debate.
@@chrisdrakes2332 ofc the general public knew.. brexit voters just chose to vote with their emotions rather than intelligently
We have a massive trade surplus with the US, we have a massive trade deficit with the EU.
@@lloydnaylor6113 And now we have mountains of red tape with with the continent where we receive most of our raw materials from.
Yes
And don't forget you also had Corbyn, a Brexiter, in the Remain camp undermining everything they were trying to tell you - The Truth.
I'd forgot about Corbyn - there's me thinking it was just Boris pushed out of UK politics for Brexit...
@@Iazzaboyce Corbyn did nothing in his entire history as an MP, with perhaps the exception of representing small groups of his electorate. Past pleasing party faithfuls in those small groups he couldn't lead, couldn't certainly lead the UK. And without a doubt couldn't defend himself to criticism either. He sank the Remain effort and was absolutely F*ing Useless, as they put it on Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
Corbyn a Brexiteer says it all really
It all boils down to who can make the most money out of this situation. And guess who.
Those who funded and promoted Brexit? Farage, Jacob, Johnson etc etc etc?
Alistair son you lied about the Iraq war have you forgotten that, away an gie yersel peace,. Love from Scotland 🏴, we haven’t forgotten.😢
No it’s got everything to do with poor incompetent business owners who failed in 5 yr waiting period to make appropriate changes and corrupt gov.
That was the point of it all: ruining small businesses
It's estimated that the main factor behind the cost of living and inflation situation is out-of-control corporate greed and unsustainable profiteering. Estimates put it at around 60% of the total effect on inflation. Profit-price spirals cause inflation, not wage-price spirals. Wage rise demands are always a result of inflation, never the cause.
Yes that's an effect of brexit you correct
@@NeilCWCampbell how is british corporate profiteering caused by brexit
@@PayneAdams-mp2zz deflection logical fallacy evidence required for "it's corporate profiteering"
Once again which particular bit of brexit are you defending be specific?
I’m afraid that it was all rather obvious that this disaster would happen but 52% of people just wouldn’t listen
they listened OK, just to the likes of Farage and Johnson... a weird mix of cynicism in mainstream politics and gullibility in populism... 100% of us have paid the price for that.
Never was a fan of Campbell b/c he didn’t give Corbyn the support he needed as Labour leader, but he’s spot on about brexit.
No.
Brexiteers counting on an American trade deal is hilarious! America already has the equivalent in Canada, in walking distance. And for cheaper labor there lies Mexico to the South. And nobody is gonna replace China, America's economic drug of choice. Wtf was Britain bringing to the table for any significant trade deal with the U.S.?😂
“We know what we’re voting for”
4 years later.
“We didn’t vote for this”
(You did .. you voted for leaving the eu, not the unicorn version of brexit that never existed)
Give it up Alistair.. deluded nonsense.
Did Brexit cause the recession in Germany and the Euro zone to Australia?
They didnt have Brexit, like us though they would be worse off with Brexit. Recessions are inevitable... Brexit was a choice !
@@WH-hi5ew Yes, a democratic choice. Ireland, France and The Netherlands also had a democratic choice and voted for 'no further EU integration, they were told to vote again until they got the 'correct result'
@@jasonkingshott2971 An in our case it was a choice that costs our economy in the region of £500m per week - so our economy is about 2.5-3% worse off than it would have been with no Brexit (but with the recession, cost of living/inflation crisis, Ukraine etc that we didn't vote for). So far I cant see any upsides to Brexit - just a worse economy and more red tape (not less) for businesses. We have more immigration as well, less from EU countries but much more from the rest of the world.
@@WH-hi5ew Well, the UK never voted to join the EU organisation in the first place.
The upsides?...thanks to the democratic majority of the UK who voted for sovereignty, independence from a corrupt, anti democratic, unaccountable, declining, protectionist, mafioso organisation run by a bunch of childish, vindictive, self serving, gravy train riding, free loading parasites. Leaving was about self governance, empowering the UK to make its own decisions. It does not set in stone what those decisions must be, it's back in the hands of the UK public and not in the hands of or shackled to Brussels.
So, people born in Dorset have to live their whole lives in Dorset, because there's no transport out of Dorset??
Thanks for pointing out the collapse of GBP and inflation. It amazes me that Politicians dont acknowledge this
The GBP has not collapsed, look at the EUR/GBP, set the chart to have 1 month candlesticks.
@@MRW515 the pounds is 25 pence lower to the Euro and Dollar than it was prior to the Brexit referendum
@@environm3ntalist549 in the 1950s you could get 5 dollars to the pound , is that down to brexit too? Currencies move nugget.
@@lloydnaylor6113 funny how this currency literally lost its value the day after Brexit and hasn’t recovered since, nugget.
Well that was a one sided snippet. No reply? Ill watch the whole programme
How is the EU economy doing compared to the UK. they are in recession and the UK are not, yet.
your desperate for a Brexit benefit
@@donalhackett2231 The problem with you remoaners is that you do not like the UK outperforming the EU and you all go quiet.
Suck it up, the decision to leave the EU will be vindicated despite the treacherous MP's and civil servants who along with the EU have tried to overturn the democratic vote in 2016.
The EU is 27 nations, why are you talking as if we're 1? Ireland is booming thanks for asking. 👍 Keep coping pal, that will help 😢
@@RazorMouth So you think that Ireland is an independant country that can do what it likes and the EU is some kind of club where you can pick and choose what you adopt. Do you all have the same currency?, can you ignore any laws passed down from Brussels?, do you have to accept the number of migrants that Brussells tells you to accept or be find for every one you do not?, thought not. So you are all 27 tied together being ruled by a corrupt organisation, good luck with that.
@@puffins4007I remember recently enough Scotland tried to pass a law for the transgenders and found out pretty quickly it's not a sovereign nation.
As for a corrupt organization, the only organization more corrupt than the UK is FIFA.