2003-04 Pistons were arguably the greatest defensive team in nba history.They set so many defensive records that year.And they had so much size.(Sheed,Ben,Tayshaun,Mehmet Okur,Elden Campbell,Corliss Williamson etc.) That was a great team.
@@kevinscott59 they lost Corliss Williamson, Mike James and Okur after that and only got Mcdyess as a bench asset to replace them. The 04 bench was a lot better.
Sheed would have a feast on the post. And guards can handle the warriors guards tayshaun is long enough and fast enough for KD. Big ben well he would do what he. Do the best anchoring the defense inside and getting the ball. 03-04 pistons is damn underrated
Dray would totally eat Little BEN for breakfast; Steph would do white chocolate passes all over Chauncey, Klay would shoot threes all over Rest In Peace Hamilton and KD's matchup on Prince, LOLOLOLOLOL. KD would average 50-60 points on that skinny wuss
Right big ben would of put the clamps on them niggas. Idk why they ask dumb questions tho like if tayshun can lock kobe up. What make you think kd would have been different.
Theres a level of respect in witch those guys dont get. Night in and night out everybody praised kobe. Whole time nobody talks about tayshun tho big ben also
They were too intelligent . And the best five ever plus our bench was deep to the bottom.. just remembering those days gives me chills .. one in a life
#2 Defense in the league that year was the Warriors. 17' Warriors could chance there guards also......04 League rules, this is a close series. Today's Rules, Warriors in 6.
But no one in the mid 2000's could shoot threes at will like the Warriors, and the Piston's have no 20 pt scorers, the Pisstons would average only 40-50 pts per game against the unstoppable Warriors
People say that pistons didn't have a superstar. But Ben Wallace was a superstar,who was robbed of getting a record setting 6 dpoty by artest in 04. Where wallace lead in every defensive Stat. Don't tell me the pistons didn't have a super Star, Fear the Fro was a thing because BEN was a superstar.
Those boys in Golden State wouldn't want the smoke of my Pistons in 04 Chauncey and Rip could guard The splash bros Tayshaun could lock TMac I think he could guard KD Draymond and Bogut would get embarrassed by the Wallace boys Mike James, Lindsay Hunter, Corliss Williamson, Mehmet Okur, Elden Campbell, Darvin Ham on the bench We would take them!
There's a reason the Pistons were so feared back then, and it wasn't just the Starting 5. It was the bench. Now, honestly, our bench was better in 2002-03 then it was in 2003-04, but not by much. And then there's a major wildcard: The Great Question. What if the Pistons had drafted Carmelo Anthony? I think there are FOUR scenarios to look at here. Not only do the rules come in play, but so does The Great Question.
Golden State would win in 4 or 5 games. All that two point stuff in the post isn’t gonna work. Golden state would take off from the gate. Blow outs. They’d have to bench Ben. It wouldn’t even be close.
This “era” had the 05 suns. Steve Nash won back to back mvps. Please hoopers adjust to the era is not like all the sudden nobody from todays nba will remember how to play
I am a spurs fan but even in todays stds I am sure that big Ben, okur and hunter would destroy the warriors because they were good at controlling pace and the warriors lost continuously to teams who controlled the pace
That's a great point. Not only were they great defensively they were the best half court team in the league because of their ball movement and scoring threat from each of the starting five.
The warriors literally had the greatest half court offense ever. Yes the pistons had great ball movement and everyone contributed but so did the warriors at a higher level. The warriors offense is literally based on ball/player movement like no other has. They were much better on offense but the pistons were better defensively.
@@unknowntrademark9992 Not just better defensively. The Pistons were on a short list of arguably the greatest defensive teams of all-time. Their defensive rotations were as seamless as their ball movement.
This logic to me makes no sense and it isn’t credible. You can’t prove that even with the older rules they wouldn’t be able to score. Even hand checking was a crutch. You could will your opponent to stay in front. None of you would even be able to keep up with Steph better yet defend him. They will adjust. Same as you say you would adjust to the new rules. Great players are great in any era. If a player like AI dominated or Kobe succeeded then no way Steph or KD wouldn’t.
Tmacs knows, todays rules is why the warriors were able to be the team they were. Back in the early 2000s? The warriors wouldn't even make the Western conference finals. Pistons would choke them out and win in a 5-6 game series
This wpupd be pure gold to watch.. i would see draymond getting bullied like zach randolph on d cousins. Draymond would turn into donkey from shrek and roll over with tucked tail. Lol
Pistons win this series. Warriors wouldnt know what to do playing a defense like that. Warriors dont have a shaq or a kobe and the pistons beat them easily. Warriors are a more balanced team than thst lakers team. Theyd make it a better series than L.A. but that pistons team takes this
@@curtiszyr you didn't watch them. I watched both. You can't understand something you never experienced. Today's era is a joke. Just look at the Olympics. Struggling to beat South Sudan 😂😂😂. 2010 on is possibly the weakest the NBA has ever been. Comparable to when wilt played. Just weak all around
Curry would cook Chauncey at home and the beginning of the series, as it moves on Billups would have his clutch three and mid range moments and slowly adjust to curry, Thompson is a 3 point version of rip although rip ran a little more so Klay being tired might let RIP go loose or either lose his shot slightly. Prince has no ego to defend and will humbly guard Durant as much as he can and will probably get him on nearly every Scrappy play, but KD will stand firm, even against the just as lengthy tayshaun prince. Sheed would SMOKE Draymond if they aren't joking around with each other but at least Green won't back down. Ben would play with more energy, speed, power, and overall determination vs Zaza. Curry and Durant still average around 20, Thompson will be on and off, Draymond scores sightly less, and Zaza gets nothing easy. Chauncey, Rip, and Prince all score normally but will HAVE to work on lockdown, Sheed and Ben have a hayday. Gs in 5 in 2017 with homecourt Gs in 6-7 in 2017 with DET HC DET in 5 either way back then because of the 3 game 5 being home when on the lower seed
Crazy how the guy talks about guarding Lebron, he was just a rookie then. Now all of them are retired, this is a brand new era, and hes still dominating the league like day 1
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2003-04 Pistons were arguably the greatest defensive team in nba history.They set so many defensive records that year.And they had so much size.(Sheed,Ben,Tayshaun,Mehmet Okur,Elden Campbell,Corliss Williamson etc.)
That was a great team.
Incredibly deep team too. The 2000’s Pistons never had a good bench after that year aside from Mcdyess
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The following year they still had a solid bench.They went to the nba finals the following year after all.
@@kevinscott59 they lost Corliss Williamson, Mike James and Okur after that and only got Mcdyess as a bench asset to replace them. The 04 bench was a lot better.
That team was how about no.
No they are the best team no one could beat them
2004 Pistons my favorite team of all time! Deeeetroit Basketbaaaall!
Sheed would have a feast on the post. And guards can handle the warriors guards tayshaun is long enough and fast enough for KD. Big ben well he would do what he. Do the best anchoring the defense inside and getting the ball. 03-04 pistons is damn underrated
Dray would totally eat Little BEN for breakfast; Steph would do white chocolate passes all over Chauncey, Klay would shoot threes all over Rest In Peace Hamilton and KD's matchup on Prince, LOLOLOLOLOL. KD would average 50-60 points on that skinny wuss
Warriors sweep the Bad Boy wannabes
Right big ben would of put the clamps on them niggas. Idk why they ask dumb questions tho like if tayshun can lock kobe up. What make you think kd would have been different.
Theres a level of respect in witch those guys dont get. Night in and night out everybody praised kobe. Whole time nobody talks about tayshun tho big ben also
@@cyberpunkalphamale how sheed is a stratch big like mr big shot said they would be fine.
Even with today's rules the pistons would hold their own..
They were too intelligent . And the best five ever plus our bench was deep to the bottom.. just remembering those days gives me chills .. one in a life
My 2004 Detroit Pistons would beat them down and we stop teams at 85 points
2014 spurs would’ve kicked y’all ass
Warriors on 4. Nobody on that team can scorw at all.
#2 Defense in the league that year was the Warriors. 17' Warriors could chance there guards also......04 League rules, this is a close series. Today's Rules, Warriors in 6.
Pistons would lock everyone down. Detroit in 5
But no one in the mid 2000's could shoot threes at will like the Warriors, and the Piston's have no 20 pt scorers, the Pisstons would average only 40-50 pts per game against the unstoppable Warriors
Pistons has in 7. Deeeeeetroit Basketbaaaaaallll!
Yo somebody change the nba rules so alot of these soft as players can get exposed
David Stern changed the rules bc of the The 04’ Pistons. Stern hated the Pistons and wanted LeBron to win Chips.
Pistons win that matchup. That Pistons defense was the best I’ve ever seen.
People say that pistons didn't have a superstar. But Ben Wallace was a superstar,who was robbed of getting a record setting 6 dpoty by artest in 04. Where wallace lead in every defensive Stat. Don't tell me the pistons didn't have a super Star, Fear the Fro was a thing because BEN was a superstar.
Facts
bro they beat kobe and shaq in 5 games arguably the two best players ever at their position definitely taking the pistons
Those boys in Golden State wouldn't want the smoke of my Pistons in 04
Chauncey and Rip could guard The splash bros
Tayshaun could lock TMac I think he could guard KD
Draymond and Bogut would get embarrassed by the Wallace boys
Mike James, Lindsay Hunter, Corliss Williamson, Mehmet Okur, Elden Campbell, Darvin Ham on the bench
We would take them!
The 04 pistons could just lock about everyone up even kobe.
04 pistons could take them and it wouldn't be close.
With the 04 rules, Detroit in 5. With the 17 rules GS in 7. Yes Sir!
Lol I like the DET team so much I couldn’t give it to GS but they probably got it in 7 like said. And I’m a Lakers fan 👀👻😂
The 04 rules are the same rules as today
The pistons were just a defensive anomaly I think they would win in 6 or 7 honestly
Thing is though that we don't consider, would we pick the 96 bulls to sweep the warriors? Or do the Pistons push them
It’s hard for me to imagine Curry and Durant guarded by these Bad Boys… They were so hungry, a truly unbelievable team to watch.
I honestly think the 89 bad boy pistons get over looked that team was deep.
There's a reason the Pistons were so feared back then, and it wasn't just the Starting 5. It was the bench. Now, honestly, our bench was better in 2002-03 then it was in 2003-04, but not by much.
And then there's a major wildcard: The Great Question.
What if the Pistons had drafted Carmelo Anthony?
I think there are FOUR scenarios to look at here. Not only do the rules come in play, but so does The Great Question.
Golden State would win in 4 or 5 games. All that two point stuff in the post isn’t gonna work. Golden state would take off from the gate. Blow outs. They’d have to bench Ben. It wouldn’t even be close.
This “era” had the 05 suns. Steve Nash won back to back mvps. Please hoopers adjust to the era is not like all the sudden nobody from todays nba will remember how to play
I am a spurs fan but even in todays stds I am sure that big Ben, okur and hunter would destroy the warriors because they were good at controlling pace and the warriors lost continuously to teams who controlled the pace
That's a great point.
Not only were they great defensively they were the best half court team in the league because of their ball movement and scoring threat from each of the starting five.
The warriors literally had the greatest half court offense ever. Yes the pistons had great ball movement and everyone contributed but so did the warriors at a higher level. The warriors offense is literally based on ball/player movement like no other has. They were much better on offense but the pistons were better defensively.
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Not just better defensively.
The Pistons were on a short list of arguably the greatest defensive teams of all-time.
Their defensive rotations were as seamless as their ball movement.
Yeah. Warriors in 4. Nobody on that team is keeping up with Durant or curry.
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Rip was on some freaky shit first he talking about laying wood then he saying 6'11with mouth 😂
I was sooo happy we got sheed back then thats my dog. Hands down gs wouldnt be able to fuck woth us fr
Teams were having trouble scoring 70 against the 04 pistons.
This logic to me makes no sense and it isn’t credible. You can’t prove that even with the older rules they wouldn’t be able to score. Even hand checking was a crutch. You could will your opponent to stay in front. None of you would even be able to keep up with Steph better yet defend him. They will adjust. Same as you say you would adjust to the new rules. Great players are great in any era. If a player like AI dominated or Kobe succeeded then no way Steph or KD wouldn’t.
exactly I couldn't agree more
THANK YOU!!! It’s that simple
Tmacs knows, todays rules is why the warriors were able to be the team they were. Back in the early 2000s? The warriors wouldn't even make the Western conference finals. Pistons would choke them out and win in a 5-6 game series
This wpupd be pure gold to watch.. i would see draymond getting bullied like zach randolph on d cousins.
Draymond would turn into donkey from shrek and roll over with tucked tail.
Lol
Damn good match up!!!
5 straight games holding opponents under 70 pts. Crazy
warriors only good cuz the rules nowadays truth. they'd blow in other eras
This is the way basketball should be play.
They would blow everyone our I agree. Best team of all time.
That 04 Pistons can beat any great teams in NBA history
Detroit Pistons defense stop flow.
No one beating 2017 warriors when KD was on there. They’re splashing 3s all day
Pistons win this series. Warriors wouldnt know what to do playing a defense like that. Warriors dont have a shaq or a kobe and the pistons beat them easily. Warriors are a more balanced team than thst lakers team. Theyd make it a better series than L.A. but that pistons team takes this
Lmao take your meds please 😂
@@curtiszyr another clueless idiot smh
@@curtiszyr you didn't watch them. I watched both. You can't understand something you never experienced. Today's era is a joke. Just look at the Olympics. Struggling to beat South Sudan 😂😂😂. 2010 on is possibly the weakest the NBA has ever been. Comparable to when wilt played. Just weak all around
Rachel was so pretty back then
Today's rules.... Warriors in 7
Rules from 2004? Pistons
The 2004 pistons would kill Golden State Draymond can't do anything with Ben Wallace or Rasheed.
How many rings did the Warriors win? And how many rings did the Pistons win? Debate over. Give me a god damn break.
😂😂😂😂👏🏾
After they traded for sheed, they set records for defense. That team had mehmet okur off the bench too.
Kobe Kobe were you was at mamba mentality
2019 Raptors could beat the 2004 Pistons NP
I got Pistons
Curry would cook Chauncey at home and the beginning of the series, as it moves on Billups would have his clutch three and mid range moments and slowly adjust to curry, Thompson is a 3 point version of rip although rip ran a little more so Klay being tired might let RIP go loose or either lose his shot slightly. Prince has no ego to defend and will humbly guard Durant as much as he can and will probably get him on nearly every Scrappy play, but KD will stand firm, even against the just as lengthy tayshaun prince. Sheed would SMOKE Draymond if they aren't joking around with each other but at least Green won't back down.
Ben would play with more energy, speed, power, and overall determination vs Zaza.
Curry and Durant still average around 20, Thompson will be on and off, Draymond scores sightly less, and Zaza gets nothing easy.
Chauncey, Rip, and Prince all score normally but will HAVE to work on lockdown, Sheed and Ben have a hayday.
Gs in 5 in 2017 with homecourt
Gs in 6-7 in 2017 with DET HC
DET in 5 either way back then because of the 3 game 5 being home when on the lower seed
Lmao
Detroit in 5!
Warriors in 4 easy. Pistons were straight doo doo
McGrady so out of place, not their teammate, not a champ.
Detroit Pistons are my team, but they'd get swept in today's rules
Their a garbage team . It's cringe how much they and the fans milk their 1 fluke championship like the 2008 celtics.
That's ridiculous. No way they'd get swept.
Crazy how the guy talks about guarding Lebron, he was just a rookie then. Now all of them are retired, this is a brand new era, and hes still dominating the league like day 1
The 2003-2004 Detroit Pistons are sooo overrated. They milk their 1 fluke championship even more than the 2008 Celtics LMAO.
Shut up
I don't think you can call it a fluke when they went to game 7 in the finals the next year. They were a Robert Horry 3 away from a repeat.
I swear people just say anything 🤦
@@DyersEve726 Almost and " if's " don't matter this is the pro's man. Not little league or college.
@@frankbj1152 1 Chip from 2003-2008 AKA complete fluke. It's ok tho keep celebrating that 2004 chip even tho it's 2022 hahahahhaha
CHAUNCERY U BUST U WOULDNT OF WON REGARDLESS LMAo
are you dumb?
Chauncey Billups was that dude.
bro they beat kobe and shaq in 5 games arguably the two best players ever at their position definitely taking the pistons