I fail to see how this was an analysis or a test... How about testing a roll before and after? Trying to identify if quality changes in a print... Vs... some vague discussion about grams.
Seen a couple of these dryers now, not uncommon to remove only a couple of grams of moisture out of the filament BUT it makes a BIG difference to the print. Grab another old roll, do a small print, dry it for 6hs minimum then print the same print again and it'll be much cleaner🙂👍
I have the Cyclops, and I can say without a doubt it is incredible at what it does. My only complaint is that I wish it shipped with plugs for the holes. A few short prints later and I'm good to go now. This looks great for single filament spools.
Can you try a before and after drying filament printing test to see what affect it has on printing. If you have nylon then that would be best because nylon is a very hygroscopic material. More than PETG. We use a desiccant drying system to dry our materials where I work. We use a moisture analyzer to test materials. There's a very significant difference between properly dried material and undried. The popping that you see in filaments is the same you see in injection molding. There is popping and drooling of material from the nozzle. There are also visual marks on the parts we mold. Thanks for the video.
On the testing of the drying by weight, I agree with Jim,(Edge of Tech), on that method. The moisture analyzer we use at work uses a scale and heat to remove and weigh the material before and after testing. It's removing water and it absolutely has an affect on the weight of the material. The only difference is that the scale on our analyzer is a lot more accurate than most non industrial commercial scales. I also agree that printing before and after is another good test method. Keep the great videos coming Jim.
Thanks for another great review video Jim! It's great to see more dryers coming out on the market, the lack of competition really makes these pricey in my opinion. I like your idea of putting an exterior hydrometer on the outside through the filament hole however I would suggest trying to get your hands on a really good one so you have accurate readings. You would be able to get readings from the start, at their recommended times and at your times. It'd be great to see the differences. For those saying that it's a ploy to make money through RUclips for Jim, I highly doubt it! Obviously you haven't followed The Edge of Tech for very long 🙄, I can tell you Jim's an honest stand-up guy who's here to help all of us in the makers community! Thanks again Jim! 😊😊
Thanks! I definitely will check that out because I'm curious on the inside temps and humidities. But overall this is not a bad box at all. The funny thing is that the link below is not even an affiliate link lol
"For those saying that it's a ploy to make money through RUclips for Jim" I came to the position of completely disregarding anyone that makes that accusation as being an evil hell bound fool. The reason being that people said that to me years ago when I attempted to start a praise and worship band and try to make money with songs that I have written. Two statements made by two individuals back to back showed their complete hypocrisy. Those statements in order were; "You're not supposed to be trying to make money, you're supposed to just do it for Jesus" which was followed by; "You're just trying to keep from going out and getting work". This confrontation came during the great recession when there was a 15% unemployment rate and in addition to not being called for an interviews, I was homeless and going hungry. When after a year or so I actually found a part time job, I was terminated 3 months later because my health had decline to such a degree that I could not work continuously for 2 hours without coming to such a point of exhaustion that required me to take a break and eat something. Eleven months after that I was in the hospital requiring life saving heart surgery. When I think back on that confrontation; I'm of the opinion that they expected me to do whatever it took to get a job including; lying and taking a job at gun point. My opinion which is based on my experience is that anyone that criticizes or condemns a person for making money on a service they are providing; is a cold hearted murderer.
I’ve been using this dryer & like it a lot. However, I still hope that we get something with better build quality, Desiccant has helped a lot. It would have been nice to see print quality & know more about the spools you chose to dry.
Great to know! I actually put desiccant in it and did the test overnight. Stay tuned to my social medias for the results, but I'll tell you it's pretty good! Thanks for watching!
Do you dry PLA? Do you set the knob to PLA? I got 2. They are cold at the PLA setting, even after many hours. The Humidity on the screen went UP on my 1st 12 hour test.
I just bought this model, 3 hrs and RH dropped from 68% to 20%, with 4 bags of desicant inside. I want to install a thermometer so I'm going to look for that hack.
I made a solid walnut enclosure for my Prusa MK3s+ with lexan sides and door. A walnut cabinet under it for supplies. And on top of the enclosure I made a drying box that uses a Nesco Gardenmaster dehydrator. Nothin like makin it all look classy. LOL
Used this exact dryer for about a month. Took me that same month to figure out that the spool holder is very much questionable. It’s just a piece of plastic. No bearings, nothing. If you print while drying it might be a very bad idea. At least in my case the fit was so tight that it cased periodic under extrusions and quite a bit of skipping…Switching to Sunlu now.
This is the curse of doing stuff like this in winter up here. Even indoor humidity tends to be super low, and cheap hygrometers aren't likely to be accurate even in the middle of their measurement range, let alone the extremes. It's definitely worth a before & after Benchy if you've got another roll of filament that's been out a while.
Thanks for the idea and for watching! Definitely as much drier right now, but can say that once I put desiccant in it and let it sit overnight, I got a very good result! This afternoon. I'll be posting that on social media's!
5:24 "In the front ... it sucks right through there and blows it right out the back" If it did that, it would be pulling cold air from the box, heating it and blowing the hot air out. It wouldn't be a filament dryer, it would be a space heater. 🤣🤣
So if any of you guys have both the Easdry and Cyclops, which one do you prefer? The only negative of the Cyclops I heard was the clicking relays. So now I'm not sure which one to get.
I've got a dehydrator with some printed PETG sides that can dry up to 3 rolls at a time. It's great. Cost me about 20 bucks for the dehydrator on sale and like 5 bucks worth of petg.
It would've been better if you printed something without drying it and compared it to an identical print after drying it. Then we could see if it actually does work or not.
You could test a half roll that's on a clear spool -- then you could stick the hydrometer in there and see it? Even if the roll didn't really "need" to be dried, you could see what the humidity levels are.
um that fan is pushing air in and thats bad you need sealed you need to heat the filament first have a opening then plug it and let dessacant keep it dry sucking in air from outside is not really helping
No offense, but this video was quite useless. None of the testing results were verified, all "take my word for it." No test prints, nothing of value. 7:36 min. + time of writing this response wasted from my life.
I appreciate the feedback! I definitely understand Not showing prints afterwards, But I do think showing the weight the spool lost has some value. In the future I will make sure to do a more encompassing video, even if it is a little longer, to show more data. Thank you again for watching!
Interesting video, but I really wish you had taken the time to get a timelapse. If it didn't work the first time, then maybe do it again with a different filament. Also, it would have been nice to see your second desiccant pack test. I don't want to go find your social media. It is frustrating to see a video that has one incomplete test and mentions a different test that isn't included.
If it's like their other products I will avoid it, purchased 2 of their 3 products and had problems with both. Eibos replied to an email, said they knew that they had a problem with their product and would fix it. then nothing, totally ignore emails. Better off trying another brand.
"Drying" a spool and weighing it provides no effective data without printing a before and after print. After all better print quality is the goal.....right?......or are we just selling $#!+ on youtube?
I disagree, but I do appreciate you watching the video! I could do a before and after print, and maybe I'll do that in the next test. But what I was trying to see here is if the spool actually lost active weight. I can tell you after sitting overnight with desiccant in the box, it lost a lot more weight too. The link below for this box is not even an affiliate link so there's that. I just wanted to check out and test this box and that's what I did :)
so many techies have oily long hair. bros do yourself some favours grab a haircut or trimmers and do a little self care and your confidence will improve tenfold.
I just got a couple of these, disappointed straight away so I just tore it down to look inside at the setup. The fan pulls air in then pushes it over the heater element then exists through 4 tiny slots only millimeters away from the fan intake hole. That seems odd its going to recycle the exit air straight back in the intake. Noisy fan and disappointed it has no timer or even a temp gauge in the $1 hygrometer. I think a glorified pos plastic box, very low tech no airflow design. I bought it on the recommendation of another channel and see he has pulled his affiliate discount link as has been getting complaints these don't work so I would say keep your money. Maybe you should have cracked it open Jim, a hammer would have been appropriate
@@TheEdgeofTechDirect from their site. I finally heard back from them. They told me they hadn't answered because they are "Not a social company". Lol. They finally shipped them, and arrived yesterday.
I'm sure it's just me but; Anytime I go to a product page and find that I have to click the buy button in order to see the price; I figure the product is so far overpriced that the seller is embarrassed by it.
You might be surprised how much 2 grams of water is. That's 2 mL. For reference, this is a 1mL vial: m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71PYXB807cL._AC_SL1001_.jpg When you're talking about steam forming at the tip of a nozzle with a diameter of (usually) less than half of a millimeter, this makes a big difference.
I fail to see how this was an analysis or a test...
How about testing a roll before and after? Trying to identify if quality changes in a print... Vs... some vague discussion about grams.
Seen a couple of these dryers now, not uncommon to remove only a couple of grams of moisture out of the filament BUT it makes a BIG difference to the print. Grab another old roll, do a small print, dry it for 6hs minimum then print the same print again and it'll be much cleaner🙂👍
I have the Cyclops, and I can say without a doubt it is incredible at what it does. My only complaint is that I wish it shipped with plugs for the holes. A few short prints later and I'm good to go now. This looks great for single filament spools.
Yeah it's pretty important to trap the moist air inside and let it condensate... Venting the saturated air out would make too much sense. Gj...
I absolutely love the thin profile on this dryer, it's perfect for sitting right next to a desktop FDM 3D printer!
I agree! Just wanted to do a first look and test, but this sitting next to a printer looks pretty dang good!
Can you try a before and after drying filament printing test to see what affect it has on printing. If you have nylon then that would be best because nylon is a very hygroscopic material. More than PETG. We use a desiccant drying system to dry our materials where I work. We use a moisture analyzer to test materials. There's a very significant difference between properly dried material and undried. The popping that you see in filaments is the same you see in injection molding. There is popping and drooling of material from the nozzle. There are also visual marks on the parts we mold. Thanks for the video.
On the testing of the drying by weight, I agree with Jim,(Edge of Tech), on that method. The moisture analyzer we use at work uses a scale and heat to remove and weigh the material before and after testing. It's removing water and it absolutely has an affect on the weight of the material. The only difference is that the scale on our analyzer is a lot more accurate than most non industrial commercial scales. I also agree that printing before and after is another good test method. Keep the great videos coming Jim.
Thanks for another great review video Jim! It's great to see more dryers coming out on the market, the lack of competition really makes these pricey in my opinion. I like your idea of putting an exterior hydrometer on the outside through the filament hole however I would suggest trying to get your hands on a really good one so you have accurate readings. You would be able to get readings from the start, at their recommended times and at your times. It'd be great to see the differences.
For those saying that it's a ploy to make money through RUclips for Jim, I highly doubt it! Obviously you haven't followed The Edge of Tech for very long 🙄, I can tell you Jim's an honest stand-up guy who's here to help all of us in the makers community! Thanks again Jim! 😊😊
Thanks! I definitely will check that out because I'm curious on the inside temps and humidities. But overall this is not a bad box at all. The funny thing is that the link below is not even an affiliate link lol
"For those saying that it's a ploy to make money through RUclips for Jim"
I came to the position of completely disregarding anyone that makes that accusation as being an evil hell bound fool.
The reason being that people said that to me years ago when I attempted to start a praise and worship band and try to make money with songs that I have written.
Two statements made by two individuals back to back showed their complete hypocrisy. Those statements in order were; "You're not supposed to be trying to make money, you're supposed to just do it for Jesus" which was followed by; "You're just trying to keep from going out and getting work".
This confrontation came during the great recession when there was a 15% unemployment rate and in addition to not being called for an interviews, I was homeless and going hungry. When after a year or so I actually found a part time job, I was terminated 3 months later because my health had decline to such a degree that I could not work continuously for 2 hours without coming to such a point of exhaustion that required me to take a break and eat something. Eleven months after that I was in the hospital requiring life saving heart surgery.
When I think back on that confrontation; I'm of the opinion that they expected me to do whatever it took to get a job including; lying and taking a job at gun point.
My opinion which is based on my experience is that anyone that criticizes or condemns a person for making money on a service they are providing; is a cold hearted murderer.
I’ve been using this dryer & like it a lot. However, I still hope that we get something with better build quality, Desiccant has helped a lot. It would have been nice to see print quality & know more about the spools you chose to dry.
Great to know! I actually put desiccant in it and did the test overnight. Stay tuned to my social medias for the results, but I'll tell you it's pretty good! Thanks for watching!
Do you dry PLA? Do you set the knob to PLA? I got 2. They are cold at the PLA setting, even after many hours. The Humidity on the screen went UP on my 1st 12 hour test.
I just bought this model, 3 hrs and RH dropped from 68% to 20%, with 4 bags of desicant inside. I want to install a thermometer so I'm going to look for that hack.
I made a solid walnut enclosure for my Prusa MK3s+ with lexan sides and door. A walnut cabinet under it for supplies. And on top of the enclosure I made a drying box that uses a Nesco Gardenmaster dehydrator. Nothin like makin it all look classy. LOL
Used this exact dryer for about a month. Took me that same month to figure out that the spool holder is very much questionable. It’s just a piece of plastic. No bearings, nothing. If you print while drying it might be a very bad idea. At least in my case the fit was so tight that it cased periodic under extrusions and quite a bit of skipping…Switching to Sunlu now.
Mine doesn't even get warm on the PLA setting. Which Sunlu did you get, and do you like it?
This is the curse of doing stuff like this in winter up here. Even indoor humidity tends to be super low, and cheap hygrometers aren't likely to be accurate even in the middle of their measurement range, let alone the extremes. It's definitely worth a before & after Benchy if you've got another roll of filament that's been out a while.
Thanks for the idea and for watching! Definitely as much drier right now, but can say that once I put desiccant in it and let it sit overnight, I got a very good result! This afternoon. I'll be posting that on social media's!
5:24 "In the front ... it sucks right through there and blows it right out the back"
If it did that, it would be pulling cold air from the box, heating it and blowing the hot air out. It wouldn't be a filament dryer, it would be a space heater. 🤣🤣
I'm curious, what were the results with the desiccant over night?
So if any of you guys have both the Easdry and Cyclops, which one do you prefer? The only negative of the Cyclops I heard was the clicking relays. So now I'm not sure which one to get.
The clicking will drive you mad, going on experience with their products. I will avoid anything that they sell.
It doesn’t drop below 10% because that is the lowest it will go.
I've got a dehydrator with some printed PETG sides that can dry up to 3 rolls at a time. It's great. Cost me about 20 bucks for the dehydrator on sale and like 5 bucks worth of petg.
Can you link me to it?
Has anyone found a way to load and feed the filament out of the case with ease? It’s not like it’s impossible, but does take some finesse
Yeah it is a bit finicky 😅
It would've been better if you printed something without drying it and compared it to an identical print after drying it. Then we could see if it actually does work or not.
What settings would I use for nylon
You could test a half roll that's on a clear spool -- then you could stick the hydrometer in there and see it? Even if the roll didn't really "need" to be dried, you could see what the humidity levels are.
Good point! Thanks for the idea!
um that fan is pushing air in and thats bad you need sealed you need to heat the filament first have a opening then plug it and let dessacant keep it dry sucking in air from outside is not really helping
No offense, but this video was quite useless. None of the testing results were verified, all "take my word for it." No test prints, nothing of value. 7:36 min. + time of writing this response wasted from my life.
I appreciate the feedback! I definitely understand Not showing prints afterwards, But I do think showing the weight the spool lost has some value. In the future I will make sure to do a more encompassing video, even if it is a little longer, to show more data. Thank you again for watching!
yet you wasted more time of your life, typing this useless hate post.
I'm not on social media. How did it do?
lol
The title of your community post says you removed 8 grams yet in this video you say 2 grams...
Which is it?
Interesting video, but I really wish you had taken the time to get a timelapse. If it didn't work the first time, then maybe do it again with a different filament. Also, it would have been nice to see your second desiccant pack test. I don't want to go find your social media. It is frustrating to see a video that has one incomplete test and mentions a different test that isn't included.
It's hygrometer. Not hydrometer.
What size dessicant packs fit?
Did you ever find out? I asked EIBOS and got no reply (As usual)
Lawson Port
Maybe get a shot glass and measure out 2 grams of water that way we can see how much 2 grams actually is
2 grams of water is 2ml.
Hygrometer not hydrometer.
Champlin Lakes
and it wont shut off its on all the time
this video is so long for about 1 minute of content...
If it's like their other products I will avoid it, purchased 2 of their 3 products and had problems with both. Eibos replied to an email, said they knew that they had a problem with their product and would fix it. then nothing, totally ignore emails. Better off trying another brand.
Most ghetto dryer i have seen $60 and no display, but a $1 hydrometer.... o.0
"Drying" a spool and weighing it provides no effective data without printing a before and after print. After all better print quality is the goal.....right?......or are we just selling $#!+ on youtube?
I disagree, but I do appreciate you watching the video! I could do a before and after print, and maybe I'll do that in the next test. But what I was trying to see here is if the spool actually lost active weight. I can tell you after sitting overnight with desiccant in the box, it lost a lot more weight too. The link below for this box is not even an affiliate link so there's that. I just wanted to check out and test this box and that's what I did :)
so many techies have oily long hair. bros do yourself some favours grab a haircut or trimmers and do a little self care and your confidence will improve tenfold.
The whole 2 grams may not even be from the filament. The spool is plastic and probably has some moisture in in it………
I just got a couple of these, disappointed straight away so I just tore it down to look inside at the setup. The fan pulls air in then pushes it over the heater element then exists through 4 tiny slots only millimeters away from the fan intake hole. That seems odd its going to recycle the exit air straight back in the intake. Noisy fan and disappointed it has no timer or even a temp gauge in the $1 hygrometer. I think a glorified pos plastic box, very low tech no airflow design. I bought it on the recommendation of another channel and see he has pulled his affiliate discount link as has been getting complaints these don't work so I would say keep your money. Maybe you should have cracked it open Jim, a hammer would have been appropriate
This ruins my filament, knob control don't work and melted my PLA's
Wow. Mine barely even get warm
Nooo
The best dryer? A ziplock bag a bag of desiccant.
That does work very well! But it does not have active heated drying. Thanks for watching!
nope. That will help avoid getting it wet, but it won't dry it after it's wet
Wow that was useless.
I’ll post on social media what I find? Ok.
They are either a Scam, or no longer in business. They don't respond to emails or anything on socials. They don't ship orders...
Hmm. Where did you order from?
@@TheEdgeofTechDirect from their site. I finally heard back from them. They told me they hadn't answered because they are "Not a social company". Lol. They finally shipped them, and arrived yesterday.
I'm sure it's just me but;
Anytime I go to a product page and find that I have to click the buy button in order to see the price;
I figure the product is so far overpriced that the seller is embarrassed by it.
You might be surprised how much 2 grams of water is. That's 2 mL. For reference, this is a 1mL vial: m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71PYXB807cL._AC_SL1001_.jpg When you're talking about steam forming at the tip of a nozzle with a diameter of (usually) less than half of a millimeter, this makes a big difference.