PolyDryer TWO AT ONCE!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Glad you liked the Double Barrel mod Joel! TOTALY go full clear. It looks stellar.
good job buddy
That is super neat, extra since you can dry your dessicant at the same time - 2 Thumbs up and 2 H5 ... I would have loved to see a timelapse with some wet dessicant and spools in there, too see how the numbers change ... do it Joel ... do it!
Next up; someone uses an airfrier as the dryer portion...
Oooh, that's an idea ;)
That's one thing that is funny about 3d-Printer products, the very nature of the customer base is likely to make improvements to your product within a short time. It's like free R&D.
That’s so true!
You're going to want to take care of the trapped resin. Sooner or later, it will work through the cured resin and leak.
Yeah, you're right. Drill bit and a drill happening later.
@@3DPrintingNerd Flush really well with IPA and if you have a air compressor handy with a small tip,blowout excess before recuring it. Great video.Mine will be here in June when there back in stock.Great video.
@@3DPrintingNerd Could you hit it with enough UV that it would cure on the inside, or is it never gonna pierce through enough to do that?
Polymaker also had the polysher to smooth out PVB and the polybox which was a bigger drybox with no heater to remove moisture, its not their first hardware product but it still cool
There are so many dissenters in this comments section that aren’t considering one of the best parts of this set up. Which is filament storage. Not only can you dry the filament, but you can STORE it and KEEP it dry with the built in hydrometer as proof. That’s not even mentioning the integrated desiccant that gets recharged every time you dock it to the dryer. This thing is the whole package and is a cut above just a regular dryer.
I think this is well said, man.
yea, I previously used something very similar to this dry box without it's active element. sealed acyrilix box with dessicant. worked fine, to a point. then I got an Eibos Cyclopes and it's active, but two spools. It's great for active use, and prepping the next spool. but the option to grab the box and store it longer term while leavingthe heater... it's a great idea.
I can definitely see a market here. hadn't even realized the dessicant would be recharged by the active heater, that's a really nice bonus.
I don't think blowing some warm air from the PolyDryer Unit around inside the enclosed box it removing any moisture from the dessicant. The warm air just helps to release moisture from the filament, so the dessicant can absorb it from the air more easily. This only happens until the dessicant is saturated with moisture. Then you have to dry the dessicant in a hot oven (>100°C) to remove the moisture from it and "recharge" it.
You are right, this is a good and unique set of features. In UK the container box without the heating module cost £30 + shipping from Germany, a Sunlu filament drier is £35 from Amazon. I don't know how it compares to competition in US, but where I live it is hard to justify the purchase unless you are ordering in bulk for a 3d printing farm. So maybe 3d printing farms is the intended target market?
Trapped resin looks cool but it's not fun later. Drain it and fill it with something else! 🥰
You could make it look like an old Orbitz bottle!
I love this idea, seriously!
Just published my 3d printable version of this box on Printables! I still have to print this adapter for two boxes, but I thought about splitting this model in two and making it clickable together. Then you can simply print two halves and don't have to worry about the bridges.
The Python AMS replacement mod for x1c/p1 Bambulab printers uses up to 4 of these to heat 4 spools which are being controlled with the guts of a doner AMS.
Definitely take a drill to that resin part and drain the uncured resin. If you don't, it will build up pressure inside and eventually split open leaving a nasty crack/gash in the model and likely spilling resin out. It has happened to me and I didn't even know that's the reason why until recently.
I personally really like the EIBOS FIlament Dryer Series X (Or on Amazon, listed as 【EIBOS Official】 3D Printer Filament Dryer Easdry) but if I were to buy a unit like that, being able to mod it for drying two spools would be the way to go I think.
Oh no! You removed the feet on the RUclipss! Now I also know who to see for some legs 🤣🤣
DUDE. hahahah holy crap that made me laugh
@@3DPrintingNerd 😂😂
at first i was printing statues without holes and i had trapped resin and after a few months they exploded and i had uncured resin all over the place, uncle jessi had the same problem with one head from a magnito statue as well, in the end i didnt mind the damage because it was so cool that i used the statue with lights and made it like it had got hit with a tank or a rocket in a diorama XD but now i print only with holes or at 100% infill
Here’s another idea for bambu users. The drying unit seems very compact. What about building an enclosure for the AMS lite and putting the dryer inside. Or even build an enclosure with a 3D vent attached to the dryer outside the box?
Somebody already is working on putting the poly maker heater attached to the regular AMS
@@rkwjunior2298 I'd like to see a version for the AMS Lite
> I kinda like it slosh around
Until resin offgassing blows it up open and spills all the uncured resin everywhere
and than he can make a video about it, it's a win-win
Very slick. Nice to see the materials manufacturers starting to get into the care of their materials.
I miss the "practical print" sessions. Maybe something for a future episode?
Maybe, instead of a base mod to get two boxes on one drier, you could try a cover mod? (go vertical instead of horizontal)
That could be useful for folks who have limited counter space for their gear.
Rather than "double barrel," you can call it the "long barrel" mod.
The idea of going horizontal keeps a much better airflow, as the air is forced to circle around the filament spool with one outlet and one intake. If you stack another box on top, this is not going to work anymore, the upper box would hardly get any airflow as it tends to take the path of least resistance thru the lower box.
Definitely go with a matching resin part. It looks sooooo good.
Right? Like SO SO GOOD
Desiccant will do the job of preventing the moisture damaging your filament, the dryer will do the job for filament already saturated. Buy as many boxes as you need and you still only need the one dryer. I use magnetic connectors for the Bowden Tube that would be my 3D print addition. As it is, I use a food dehumidifier and Tupperware boxes, intended to take a (filament sized spool) cake. Works really well 🙂 This of course is an off the shelf solution.
I dig your solution!
It has one major issue.....its sold out.
The best mod for this would be a Sunlu s4. No janky resin filled parts and without the insane pricetag.
MY RESIN PART ISN'T JANKY hahahhaa
Yeah, only one important thing about the Sunlu S4. It takes up a LOT more physical space. It is overkill for two spools. Just different tradeoffs.
@@3DPrintingNerd Well if they are filled with resin I can tell you from experience that it won't end well. Drill it out, flush the resin and it's all good.
@@johnsanford3596 That is true, the S4 is freaking huge. I'd love to have a Polydryer for near the printer (to prrint from with nylons etc.) and use my S4 away from the printer to dry all 4 spools that go in the ams at once. And 4 polydryers would be just as big as an S4 I believe.
You should take the filament out of the boxes, toss in a bit of glitter or something just to see how good the air circulation is.
It probably wouldn't look too interesting. I'm willing to bet it's a slow fan much like a boot or shoe dryer
To many parts to loose, also you pay extra for modularity. If you need the modularity and all the hacks that is OK.
Unfortunately they were constantly out of stock for months so the hype disapated and the price is too high so hobbyists cant afford it as easily.
My dual spool filament dryer that works perfectly and does the job cost $23. I could built one for less than $7. These things are overpriced.
You can design an adapter to store two boxes on top of each other so dry 4 rolls at once.
You mentioned a lack of supports compromised the print ..
Could you cover why, or if you’ve covered it already post a link to it…
Im printing this.
Great idea.
Probably double the time for drying?
It‘s not Polymaker‘s first product. They made the Polysher.
I have tried two, returned the first, not using the second. They are so loud it’s super irritating. I wonder if this noise level is normal or if I received two units that are both bad?
Quad barrel mod with two dryer units.
Or 12 barrel mod with 6 dryer modules.....
first this has very low rating on it's own. and now as double will be completely a junk
Why would you need the spool rod? the rollers keep the spool continuously rolling with out spool hop
I'm curious how much the loose fit between the dryer base and the mod hampers its ability to dry
So $80 to dry one roll? If you do the double barrel mod $160. There are currently tons of active dryers that hold two spools for $45. The price of these is ridiculous.
The dry box is 30 and the dryer with a dry box is 80. So double barrel would be 110. Still pricey for the box but not as horrible as it seems
It's a cost, but it's neat. There are DIY options, and someone just released this: x.com/Extrutim/status/1788983819149668593
Sunlu 4 roll drier for the price of 2
@@3DPrintingNerd While I do love Extrutim's box, it still is a kg of PETG, so not much cheaper than the original dry box :).
@3DPrintingNerd sooo a box on a box?
But does it work? Wow, how could you not address this question!
"they're in the hardware game now" I think you forgot about the Polysher from eons ago...
Yep, I did forget about it. I don't think I'm the only one :)
Just redesign the heater unit's shell to lock togeather with another for as many as your circuit can handle. Then you will benifit from the performance of a single heater per chamber.
ooh, a US 20amp circuit could do A LOT
I think you should go both ways. See how many you can run off of one and how long it takes to dry. Then how many driers can you get into one and how fast that takes to dry!
FULL SEND!
The resin part will burst if you dont pour out the resin be aware!
Use it on an enclosure as an optional heater/dryer…?
Free money is cool!
You need lights in the resin parts
LIGHTS YESSSS. RGB ALL THE THINGS.
I’d be worried about that resin! It expands and gassed off, creating pressure, especially with heat. It can and will eventually explode 😬
Yeah, it’s getting drilled soon. Heh. Don’t want that!
god, i wish you had mentioned how high of temp this goes to
4:48 I use a heat gun and then squash them down. easy fix.
Where is the Perfect Packaging Peanut? ;)
If it's transparent - can't you just cure it for a really long time to reach the center? I would throw it in for an hour and see what happens. Or leave it out in the sun all day.
Oh sure, I could cure the heck out of it! I think I'm going to drill it out, drain it, and cure it.
Rose's metal, Rose metal or Rose's alloy is a fusible alloy with a low melting point.
Rose's metal consists of 50% bismuth, 25-28% lead and 22-25% tin. Its melting point is between 94 and 98 °C (201 and 208 °F). The alloy does not appreciably contract or expand on solidification, this characteristic being a function of its bismuth percentage, but does slightly contract on cooling.[1]
please metal printer
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose%27s_metal
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusible_alloy
what does that say lead
I certainly hope that Polymaker supports that product better than they supported their Polysher. Their support abandoned it but they still sell them. Not a good sign.
I still have mine, but haven't used it in YEARS
The price is just too high for what you get…
I have zero resin printing experience, so take this as a question rather than a warning - aren't prints with trapped uncured resin known to burst 😱?
I do like the idea of a second resin print with a standard drain hole as a good side-by-side comparison. Maybe try what Andrew Sink did and add some cool color inks to the inside of the clear print after it's cured.
Um... They *can* but I think only if temps cycle like crazy. I think.
@@3DPrintingNerd They will, in time, just weaken the part till it just come apart. Have had it happen to a large figure I printed and had trapped resin.
Shall I help design a shape to test? ;)
How well sealed is the feed tube? On all my dryers there is little to no seal, thus humid air can seep back through the feed tube? Or is it recommended to retract all the filament and remove the feed tube for storage?
Great review.. I want one.. or maybe 4 😂
Another thing is no one seems to mention.. if you have a badly humidified roll of filament how long would it take for this to dry it out, or should I stick with my huge food dehydrator?
From what little I've used my PolyDryer, it seems like it barely has enough power to dry one roll of filament at a time. Using the dry box with only the hygrometer and dessicant it took about 2 hours to get to 70c measured right at the vent.
Damn... I just had ordered a SUNLU Fila Dryer S2... still very cool idea! Neat upload as usual!
It would be very nice if there would be a smart filament dryer. To monitor the temperature and humidity. And also turn on/off the dryer.
A modular design would also be great. E.g. to add a filament scale to monitor the remaining filament on the spool.
Most resins will soften with heat. Since it's filled to uncured resin, it's going to explode in no time. However, even without the uncured resin, I think it will heat up and sag, unlike the ASA.
Keep them resin with no drain hole
Love that they came out with this, need to see if there's a place where it fits into my workflow.
The price of the unit (sans heater) is good... except 6 of them is almost the cost of a repbox, which can also fit 6 1kg spools and if I have smaller spools then I can get more in there. But I also have a small but growing selection of 2kg/3kg spools so I still need a larger container for storage (Polymaker said they're working on larger one too). But then there's the 10k videos about how there's such a thing as too dry, and that you really don't want to dry a filament more then 4-5 times before the process of absorbing moisture and then removing it starts to degrade the polymer. All that's before taking into account env. and whatnot. And the fact that desiccant is good for maintaining an env. and once I dry some filament, a box of freezer bags and some color indicating desiccant costs less then one of the boxes. I also have the issue that the person I trust for product testing who ALSO happens to have one of these said it was meh and they'll probably give it away and sent a list of feedback to Nick.
But that's all being super negative... if I bought some expensive nylon or other material, this would totally be on the shopping list and it would live in there until the spool runs out. I'm glad a multi-unit was made by the community as I felt a single unit was going to get a good first impression but be limiting in the long term. Add a cap so you can remove a unit from the multi-dryer, but keep running the other unit, and the setup is golden. I need to see about power requirements... less "how much power does it use" and more "do I have any open outlets somewhere?" I've switched a ton of electronics to PoE so I can do as much as possible with a single outlet and a PoE switch, so going back to "do I buy 1 dryer and need to dry a 12 boxes over days" or "do I buy 12 dryers so I can dry 12 boxes over hours" and that's a bit where this comes into play.
I must be the only one who wants to rewind the spool after printing. And none of all the fancy filament boxes provide this. Sure I can open the cover but that exchanges all the dryed air in there.
The Python AMS now uses these
You should’ve been able to stack those boxes on top of each other and let the dryer unit dry multiple boxes at once.
polydryer pool wall hack
It's better to dry one, seal it, dry the other one. The heater won't be able to maintain target temperature in two boxes at the same time, too much heat losses.
What if you turned your current feet/mod upside down and then you could send 2 heaters into one box?
Probably be better to use something like this after each spool is already well dried to keep them dry during printing
Idk, I paid 40$ for a dryer that holds 2 rolls already
Awesome!
They should sell the dry dock separately. I would love to attach one at each end of my bamboo Ams.
They should have made it modular so you can stack 2 to 3 on top with a dryer unit at the bottom>
curious on if the trapped resin will end up a problem if just setting it out in the sun for a day would just harden it.
This is awesome Joel! I want to get a second polydryer just to try this out!
Go full clear or the clear blue. Be sure to drain that sealed will Crack and leak eventually
Clear resin, hollow, and stuff it with LEDs !
Bambu Python AMS with dryer. 🎉
Trapped resin will eventually rupture the part.
Yeah. Lots saying that. It’s getting drilled soon.
If you let the resin print sit in the sun for a while it should cure all the way through.
Drill a drain hole and put LEDs inside the transparent resin print!
p.s. good job Fedor @ over at 3D Print SOS 😘
I wonder if the Filamentalist will fit inside of that box.
Looks janky as hell and joel is a glorified infomercial anymore
How about an adapter to use the diy cereal box train we all jumped on
Or get the Sunlu one and dry 4 rolls at once :)
I did! Enclosing the Prusa XL - SUMO!
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Umm yeah, I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday.
Drill a small hole, drain the resin. RINSE the inside out thoroughly. Then refill with your preferred liquid that you can color / add glitter / etc. Plug. Get the coolness of the stuff inside without the downsides of it being resin.
Great tip!
Create a wooden and PCV box that can store a dozen dry boxes then put valves so you can automatically dry one spool at a time.
Great project idea
I like the idea and wonder if a mod that can mount next to printer to keep hydroscopic filaments dry while doing large prints. I’ve noticed with dryers that sometimes the roll doesn’t move as freely and if this does. Just the dry box would be enough after drying roll put it in there to print with.
The boxes are sealed well, if you have a dry filament and you add it to the box, and can connect the PTFE tube to the hot end, I bet you wouldn't need the active dryer.
Is the lid able to be clipped on backwards? and is there only one hole for the dowden tube coming out the front of the box? I have a dryer but had to modify it cause I need the display stuff in the front but the filament coming out the back and it seems like a lot of companies making these just don't make them that way.
Yes the lid can be clipped on either way. From hole and hole up top.
now if the heaters base was just available
Joel I haven't hear what happened with your Voron 2.4. Is it working ok?
Yes still works!
If you added more, say 4 boxes, you should have the outer ones higher for better air flow. The feet could also be put on the legs of the adapter.
ooh, stack em!
Uh a flap to set the air to one or the other so then full performance. No need to seal the flap, the tiny amount of leakage isn’t likely to matter
oh.. OH! yes!
Shame it's out of stock
They are trying so hard to get it back in stock
Neat, good thing i stull use my dual comgrow. This is a big snazzier though.
They should add “it’s snazzy!” in the description on the site!
I'd add a drain hole. Resin isn't something you want to have on your skin if it starts to leak.
YEAH. That's 100%.
I feel that the model is very close to the Recognizer in the original Tron movie
YESSS!
Nice video, thank you :)
Do you think the clear resin will perform better because it's more air tight?
Um... no. But it'll look dope.
The trapped resin will expand + the air in it and then ... boom it will leak!
it'll be drilled out hahahah.
Nothing about nylons.
Not explain tubes but guess they used to load and use dried filament?
Yep.