Cris Carter and Nick Wright on Kawhi Leonard's trade to Toronto Raptors | NBA | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2018
- Cris Carter, Nick Wright and Jenna Wolfe discuss on First Things First the breaking news that the San Antonio Spurs have traded Kawhi Leonard to the Toronto Raptors. The Spurs have agreed to trade Leonard and Danny Green to the Raptors for guard DeMar DeRozan, center Jakob Poeltl and a protected first-round pick in 2019. Cris and Nick react.
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What are your thoughts on Kawhi Leonard's trade to the Toronto Raptors?
First Things First: Cris Carter and Nick Wright Zaza will injure him because Zaza is on the pistons
Raptors made a big move they could even be the favorites to beat
First Things First: Cris Carter and Nick Wright if you're telling me that getting DeRozan is a better package deal than getting Ingram, Kuzma and two first round pick from the Lakers, you're clearly on drugs. DeRozan is a good scorer, but he doesn't have another gear, he doesn't get better as the stage gets bigger, he instead shrinks in big moments.
The Realist lakers werent offering that. They offered deng and hart
The Realist lakers were offering kawhi a trash package. If they offered ingram and kuzma Kawhi would be in LA by now.
Nick Wright: "Toronto can't win a title" 🤔🤔🤔so much for that expert prediction!!! 🇨🇦🏆
jwh2333 no doubt!!!😄😄😄
Pretty sure he didn't see KD and Klay getting hurt😆
@@jonathanlaque4248 Fair enough lmao😉👍
@@jonathanlaque4248 klay getting hurt for the last 12 mins of the series was inconsequential. They outplayed them with klay games 1,2, 4 and 5. The only game warriors out played them was first half of game 5 when kd was on the court
“They can’t win a title”
Kawhi- “A HA HA HA HA”
Aha ha haaa
Chestnuts Roasting some people had to eat their words!!!😄😄😄😄
Kawhii told pop he didn’t wanna be in SA. So pop took it a step further and sent him out the country😂. That’s tuff
Goatin Aroun 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don’t play around with pop lmao 🤣
Yeah sent him to one of best cities in North America which isn't exactly a loss for Kawhi lol...
right!! lol
😂😂
Masai is a fuxking wizard with these trades
Ok boys nd lady. We're now on the eve of the NBA Champions parade in Toronto led by Kawhi Leonard. What say you now??
Spurs didn’t care about the return they sent that man as far as possible!!!
garrick whitley yup. Part of Pop’s philosophy is to trade assets to the East and not making a West team better.
To add to insult, Kawhi went from a “no state tax” state to paying taxes in Canada.
Lmfao Kawhi is common back to the west next year tho. Then he's gonna beat down the Spurs during the playoffs and reg season.
im not gonna open the door for a Western Conf team with Kawhi to knock me off in the 1st round of the playoffs. Spurs logic makes sense
Thank you, I thought this would be obvious to all of these people arguing about trade value. It was just about giving him the finger.
Just after raptors wins the final... Suddenly all the video about kawhi traded to raptors pops up.. 😂
Agustinus Santoso you gotta love RUclips’s algorithm
Agustinus Santoso u mean without the injuries in the finals, right? Please.
@@kabagemayannick5097 u a loser
Didn't CC say yesterday that Kawhi definitely isn't going to Toronto?😂😂
CC isnt credible talking about basketball only football
michael edwards this is true
MegaDboy7 so true....haahhaha
And he said today he might not show up for training camp. He clearly has a connection to kwahis camp, doubt he meant he could predict what the Spurs would do
Lol they both said there was no way he's getting traded to raptors and put down people for saying that was the spot 😒 nicks a clown cc just talk to talk
8:50-8:58 Oh this didnt age well lol
“They can’t win he east, or a title”
Kawhi: HAUHEHAHEAHE
Adam Bull no doubt!!😄😄😄
Adam Bull u mean without the injuries in the finals, right?
@@kabagemayannick5097 injuries that occur every single postseason? We can play the what if game my dude. Pretend the raps weren't banged up themselves. A big storyline for half that postseason was the fact that KAWHI was hobbled. Get outta here
Austin Neveau i know it was....but what if he was healthy? What if GS was healthy? The Raptors path to the Chip was very impressive but everybody knows GS wins when healthy no matter what. Denial of that just speaks to the unobjectivity of some fans probably including you too. If you think am wrong, imagine a fully healthy kawhi and Raptors team beating a fully healthy battle tested ( over the last years) GS team . Kawhi would be THE UNDISPUTED BEST PLAYER ON THE PLANET and Toronto might be an all time great team ( for 1 year) as the 83' sixers. But you know why it didn't happen? Because GS was at least missing one or two starters each game of the finals and even some of the starters were hobbled too ( Cousins) ; so no matter what happened in the '19 finals, everything the Raptors could do with those circumstances will always have an Asterisk by its side like ( ironically) GS in '15 . But hey y'all got a Chip and it will always be like that in NBA HISTORY. Let's just move on from it.
It'd be really interesting if Toronto is trying to trade with the Lakers to get their young pieces
As far as I'm concerned this MUST be the plan (Lakers or Clippers) especially after at around the 5 min mark, finding out Leonard's people hadn't been contacted by the Raptors. I had assumed they had talk to him. If they hadn't then he's just a trading chip to start their rebuild (cap space, youth and picks), a year early and maybe a lot better off than waiting until next summer.
At least that is what I'm hoping. Heck if they trade him and they sink in the standings as you'd expect then they played the Spurs for suckers as the protected 2019 1st round pick turns into two second round picks. The Raptors GM has been known to scam other GM's in his day.
For Lakers, it would be dumb to trade if it's a forsure thing Kawhi will sign next offseason.
Kevin Williams how long can you bank on Lebrons health though, that hypothetical next summer, and next season would be his 17th season. He might not even get through his 16th this year.
Exactly what I was thinking!
Raptors are not gonna want the kings ransom. Maybe just ingram and 2 1st rounders. They keep green. Lakers keep kuzma and hart. And the lakers get kawai now to help lebron vs warriors.
Lol these guys acting like Canada is on a different planet. Toronto is the fourth largest city in NA lmao.
It seems like these dudes are mad he didn’t go to LA.
Vince loved it in Toronto. And Toronto isn't the highest tax in the NBA
Jeff Brisson where these guys getting their info?
Oliver Davis he’s right they don’t pay the most tax in the nba.
Food Appeal You’re literally the only Canadian in here. 99% of NBA fans are Americans.
@bob Jeff... you’re an idiot
@@bobjeff6899 99%? So the second most global sport in the world and 99% of the fans are American? 😂😂😂 American education at it's finest.
this is Nick attempting not to cry
Eddie Everything bahaha
He's so mad because he knows the lakers have even less chance of maiking/doing well in the playoffs. I love it.
Reilly Davis alot could change in a year boiiii
Eddie Everything he's mad that Lakers didn't get him
No it's very likely he's traded to LA and it's easier to do now
CC's clearly frustrated with this trade.
Taxes in ontario arent even that bad such a dumb argument
connor brown this is The TORONTO Raptors bruh lol
connor brown I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not lol
Nick B lol youll never know
Vince and Tracy didn’t hate it in Toronto. They all say the opposite in interviews. They say they loved it but the front office was wack.
These guys just talk, doing research and knowing what you're talking about is apparently not a job requirement
Chris Carter acts like hes so plugged in with Leonard....lololololol.
What a fool.
Pop is a savage. This dude sent Kawhi to a whole different country
The watched him celebrate right? Hahahahaa funny how things work
cris carter has a conference call scheduled? it seems like he not only knows Kawhi's camp, it sounds like he's part of that camp lol
matt.t his brother his Kawhi's agent or works for his agency. Chris mentioned it on an episode a few weeks ago.
If I did not know better I would think CC is Kawhi s agent
Let him not show up and sit out a year. I don't see that happening although CC seems to imply that he will not show up
So we are just gonna ignore that cris carter said not too long ago that he has insiders in the spurs and he knew for a fact this trade wasn’t gonna happen 🤔 well where are those insiders now?
What can you do....he doesn't want to stay and you don't want him to go to LA....send him East out of the country
alvin081988 -But Green Two.That Was So Dump Deal.
The tax situation is always overstated. LA players pay more in taxes than Toronto players.
I wonder how long before lebron James is mentioned
LOL...the narrative tomorrow will be no star wants to play with LBJ.
Morgan Z Treme yeah right. No way would they talk about that.
😂
Morgan Z Treme Nick would go into a full fledge tantrum on national TV. If they were to mention that...
Pop is savage af. Send kawhi and uncle dennis to another country. They should have sent him to Saudi Arabia
Jerry -And he lost the super max deal.
Facts
And now Kawhi is playing the NBA Finals in this "another country"
@@kingofthescorpio5648 fact isss hes the MVP
Pop took an L
"[Toronto] It's about as far from L.A. as you can possibly get ..." - Boston? New York?
Why does Nick keep saying Tracy hated it in Toronto??
He was traded after his rookie season, and is on record talking about how much he loves toronto
Poetl will be good in the spurs system. Compare his first two seasons with Clint Capelas first two
I'm ready for some Derozan reference on a Drake song
cloudyboy45 drake gonna sing about how kawhi broke his heart a year from now
Lived in the 6 but get love in Texas like I’m derozan ( drake v )
There's already a song called fake love; "I got fake people showin' fake love to me
Straight up to my face, straight up to my face"
11 months later and Kawhi Leonard is one win away from winning the NBA Championship.
Tj Zielman ANNNNDDD HE DID IT
Oh how things have changed in a year. Raps are 2019 NBA Champs, Kawhi is healthy - the best player in the league, and he wants to stay in TO.
GTAGamer 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Good trade by both teams.. given the circumstancds
Not only did Kawhi show up, but i think we in the finals right now my dude CC. Lmao
Good trade for spurs
Yep
Yea it was, but next year Kawhi is comming back to the west. No one on the Spurs can stop Kawhi, but he can stop any of their players.
Jose Garcia -cut we got the shaft. to trade Kawhi for what they got only..and green for Free..The Spurs number 1and 2 defense player.. and Boths can hits the 3..it was a bad deal. but teams got cry baby in your team now.poor green will be miss here in SA -TX more.
It's okay. No good picks. Even tho SA does pick good late in the draft. Derozan is good. Except he's a shoot guard who can't shoot the 3... Which is really bad in today's leauge.
If u think about it the trade mine as well be for derozan for kawahi and that's actually terrible Trade... You get a pick thay is outside of top 20 and a player who will make a VERY minimal impact... It's a bad trade for everybody lol.
Ramiro Benavidez I agree.. It was a bad deal. For both teams actually lol.
Drake's gonna have to finesse an extension out of Kawhi
Props to Carter and whoever his sources are. He was the only talking head, talking about this possibly happening.
5:45 Jenna gagging in the back like 😂😂
"Kawhi and his group". CC is the group!
Players pay more taxes, but the players expenses are in Canadian dollars. It a 30% discount ......
Great move for both teams. Those hating on the Raps and Spurs can go cry.
All those young guys listed on the Raptors turned out pretty good
Sorry chris..kawhi showed up...probably will win a 2nd championship monday in game 5 with a 2nd mvp under his belt!!
and they are not winning a title hahaha
Can't wait to see Kawhi face
mrtrapmusic100 it'll be the same old poker face 😂😂😂
U should see it now after that championship 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Take an extra good look at his face now ahaha
Wrong Vince embraced Toronto. Made business deals there and opened a playground so kids could hoop
And here we are. Top of the East, even with all the injuries. The effect of the trade has been crazy every since.
Raptors Pulse And now here you guys are.. 2019 NBA Champions
I’m happy with this trade,both kawhi and spurs have their fair share in this conflict,but kawhi really put san antonio in a really rough spot,only wanting to go to la limited a lot his trade value,he acted as a kid and pop sent him to a galaxy far far away and still got derozan
Demar thought he got away from LeBron😭😂😂
Toronto is a very cool city, it's a long shot but they could pull it off.
Tyler Hatch I doubt it. They just traded a dude who they told they would never trade. Why would kawhi trust an organization in a city he doesn’t want to play for or be in? At least they got D Green.
Tyler hatch.....they did sir lol
And the talking heads ramble on and wrong as usual
WE THE CHAMPS !!! 🇨🇦🥂❤️ Haahhhaaahhaa y'all are dumb.
Amps3000 u mean without the injuries in the finals, right? FOH
Wow great job San Antonio
Derozan isn't consistent. don't be surprised if he averages 17 a game in the playoffs taking 20 shots and playing sub par defence. I love my boy Demar, but it's just the truth. LA and Demar together isn't the freshest combo
Spurs won. Nick Wrong is salty because the spurs are now better than 'his' lakers.
Spurs organization and coaching staff can get the most out of DeMar. All they need is his scoring and playmaking ability. The defense will come.
Why? This trade is trash for them.
Derozan & Pop equals 28ppg and a 4 seed in the West. BOOK IT.
Demar has had how many chances to prove his worth and how many exits has Lebron given him? Aren’t they like 2/12 with that lowry/defrozen combo now?
I didn’t know Tom Green was into NBA news casting 😝
😂😂 kawhi to Toronto oh yea and yo uncle too
cortez thompson what a great trade for Toronto 😂😂😂
whos laughin now
His uncle gets a ring too?
Bosh went to Miami to win championships.. period. DeMar woulda done the same thing in the same situation but he was not in the same situation. I will forever love DeMar and respect him greatly for the effort he put into repping that raps jersey. Him and Vince are by far my favourite Raptors of all time and DeMar loved this city. I understand why he is upset and I honestly don't know how to feel about it. He is the first jersey I ever bought, he got Toronto back on the map to be the top 3 teams in the east and is the first Allstar to resign. Wish him the best in life and hope he does well in SA. At the same time I'll be wearing that Leonard jersey praying he resigns next year.
considering kawhi Leonard disappeared last season as a spurs fan this trade to me is basically danny green for derozan, poeltl, and a pick and I can't complain about that
I think Derozan will be a great player under coach Pop, right now he is a good player.
LMAO Nick said dude is an OK rotational player, and he isn't even an OK TV analyst.
raptors only have 2 years left with their core. it was gonna be a
rebuild mode anyways. have to take a chance. is what it is. demar might
be passionate about wanting to stay but he choked the last 2
playoffs.... wasnt working in TO.
Have the people of FTF not been following their own story lines? Kawhi didn’t want to be a Spur, pop took it from there and granted his wish.
Taxes are higher but expenses are lower in CAD
Yeah, I'm sure Toronto won't win the championship...
CC- "I talked to Kawhi's people, he may not show up", as they are talking at that moment, Kawhi is texting Lowry saying let's go win the chip. LOL, Carter and Wright and all of them fools need to get off their high horse, read real time comments and listen to fans who know much, much more and would crush them on these shows in a debate.
Gather here for a selfie if you are here after the Raptors won the championship
"I am just like DeRozan, if I shoot it, it goes in " 🎵🎶🎶🎵🔊
Correct me if im wrong but didnt the Lakers offer them Lonzo Engram and a couple picks?
Let's try to get more Canadian players to help with retaining them in Toronto
When you just wanted to go to la but they trade you to a different country
Is it better? The United States is more free than Canada.
he would have to get used to the cable up there
Canada is so much more free and waaay less guns and shooting lmaoooo
dog is god backwards guns are great
Like how you can go to jail for using the wrong pronoun or you criticize the LBGT community? Some dude in Toronto got 2 years for handing out anti-LBGT pamphlets at a pride parade.
the fact that Masai didnt trade any of toronto's top 4 youngest players (vanvleet, siakam, OG ANUNOBY, delon) whilst landing Kawhi + Green, makes Ujiri a LEGEND. Toronto STOLE Kawhi, arguably the best player in the East, a 2X DPOY, 2X ALLSTAR, 1X FINALS MVP (youngest player to do so in NBA history), and he has a championship ring. People forget that the last time he was healthy he was in discussion on who was the 2nd best player in the LEAGUE. PLUS a 3 and D guy in Danny Green who both have played for Greg's winning system. We can learn a lot from these 2. Obviously, a 1 year rental does not sit well for us Toronto fans but we could seriously make a push for the NBA Finals now that Lebron has left the east. From a business perspective,this was a brilliant move. We as Toronto fans must support Kawhi even if he does plan on leaving next year, we have 1 season to win Kawhi's heart, STAND UP CANADA!!! #WETHEKLAW
Great show, Nick has gotta lean to let others finish or make their point he keeps on interrupting
I think most are missing the obvious power push-back from the owners and coaches, on the players. Its to let the players know that what ever you think you have power in - you dont - This isnt about the players its about the organization.. Eitherway its a " lose on my terms" for San Antonio
if Toronto wants to use kawhi as a resource to trade other players, that would be a very good deal for Toronto.
idiot
some real A plus quality reporting there cris carter. I quote you as saying "call me and ask me not kawhi. He will not play in toronto".
so the smart thing to do would be make a deal with a l.a team to get a couple good player's
Nick the only one think Toronto made a good decision
Jalen Rose does too.
It was good only because they got that contract gone and and can rebuild...cant rebuild wit bug contract players on roster
Hakeem Legend you free up cap space but what free agent is coming to Toronto.
Literally all of the smart minds on basketball twitter (writers, former front office executives, etc) all think this was a great deal for Toronto.
Draft stars and sign role players.
The trade makes sense for the Raptors. They weren't going to win as currently constituted, so now they have a chance to go deep into the playoffs. If Kawhi decides to leave, that leaves them a ton of free cap space to bring in new guys. This is assuming Kawhi does not intentionally sabotage the deal by claiming he is still hurt, thus failing his physical. I wouldn't put it past him to try something like that.
It doesn't make sense! You said all of that, and didn't bring up coaching?!?!? So they gave away their best player and coach.... now go figure 😂😂😂
Canadians would gladly welcome Kawhi Leonard, whether he plays or not! He would Love it here! Toronto is the wealthiest city in Canada.
That sucks they had to give up Danny Green. He was prolific 3 point shooter and played defense.
The Raptors have actually has a history of letting franchise player leave or being traded away starting with Damon Stoudamire followed by Marcus Camby, Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter, Chris Bosh and now DeMar DeRozan
it's called the difference of class in the West vs East.
san antonio saying kawhi was faking...well, vince carter actually did because they wouldn't hire Dr J.
I’m still getting use to ex football legends covering basketball.
I think the spurs consider Poeltl a lottery pick. He ripped the spurs when they played... Poeltl is gonna be a very good Center if he develops any sort of mid range jumper. Mobile 7 foot shot blocker
Poeltl is an extremely good athlete for a 7 ft...young...He can fly if he gets some steam and dunk with authority....Pops is gonna develop him into a starter no problem...Dudes wrong about him....Not saying an all star..but a quality starter...not just a rotation guy.
Cris Carter seems to know a lot lol Kawhi not gonna show up lol yeah he surely did and WON the Raptors a Championship lmfao... I sometimes wonder if these clowns go back and re run the predictions hahhahahaa
Good analysis. Add to everything, if the Raptors get to the Finals (Leonard>DeRozan by factor of about 3), it's going to be emotionally hard for Leonard to leave. Carter, McGrady and Bosh were immature and not part of contending teams...
I think Kawhi not wanting to be in Toronto , he’s going to be uninspired the whole year
I said “I think” which means my opinion , like he’s going to be outta there after 1 year watch
The Spurs could have signed him to a five-year designated veteran extension worth $221.3 million. That deal is gone now. The Raptors, his incumbent squad, can offer him a five-year, $189.7 million pact. The most another team (aka the Lakers) can give him is four years and $140.6 million.
Use the Spurs' could-have-been offer as the baseline, and leaving for Los Angeles subtracts a grand total of one year and $80.7 million from his earning potential. Oof.
In other word... today KL lost 80 million plus ... if he woulda stay quiet 🤫... at least the Laker resigning wouldn’t have been that bad, now in order to get max he has to sign for one year and resign ... and he knows that with his health history this is a major setback... tomorrow he can get an $500 million check for a shoe deal and put all of it in a bank account, he still is short $80 mill and to add insult to injury... this year now he is going from a NO tax state to : US expats living in Toronto find themselves having to file both US taxes as a US citizen, and Canadian taxes as a Canadian resident though. Living in Toronto is a great experience. ... Canadian federal income tax rates 33%. There is also a provincial income tax that varies from province to province.... so KL got played out of possible $100 million today... apple.news/AigAetoj4Qq-QsdNtcMUewQ
Raffy Serrano-Yejo
Wow hahahahaha
Bill Williams you’re correct, $80 -$ 100 is generational money.... would you give the opportunity to set your family up for generations? Also ... everyone thought that he was gonna be traded to the Lakers or kept till free agency by going to raptors 2 team after original... $40 millions less ...is not about selling your soul is about risking a lot with an injury like he has right thigh tendinopathy.... let’s say that’s is a caree recurring injury ( not ending)... throughout the contract he’ll be a player who cannot play full seasons... when he has to resign... this $80-$100 will be missed...
Bill Williams 80 million is literally another max contract worth of money. You’re stupid if you think anyone is okay with losing that amount of money.
MsMrapplepie hey! At least he’ll be the first human being with a bank account of “soul money”
Emotions aside this was the best for both teams
That Kawhi Leonard raptors jersey bouta be fire
Kawhi did not talk to nobody from the Spurs. They didn't tell him about this trade. Quite fair.
yall think that toronto was going to keep the same cast if they fired their coach i knew they was going to change their roster...
9:36 Cris Carter says Kawhi Leonard doesn't want to join a super team or position himself 2 just win championships in this video but now he says kawhi going 2 the Lakers is a done deal and all he wanna do is win championships 😂🤣😂🤣🤦🏾♂️
Kawhi might be a raptors now but at the end of the day i still think he will find himself in LA playing for one of those 2 LA team
Thomars Carter for sure, he's in LA by next year and spurs did the right thing, they got another scorer all NBA player AND got Kawhi out of the West for an extra year
Pop got out of a tough situation. He the GOAT.
Didn't see that coming...
I think spurs could’ve got more , for sure and they gave up Danny green? Wow I’m upset
I think Danny Greens gonna go off this year in Toronto