I did the same with a friend's china. it was a crappy-ass china cymbal, so we thought of modifying it. At first I hammered it as hell, but using an anvil (actually a sledgehammer head) so hammering would no compromise the integrity. Then I put the cymbal on a drill to make it turn like they do in cymbal manufacturing, and sanded it until the finish was smooth. Then I drilled holes, 3/4 inch to 1 and 1/2 inches, and honestly at that point it looked real pretty. Still sounded like crap, but a prettier crap.
Man, at my music school we got cymbals worse than that. Some students gave them away to the school because the ones we had would be stolen even by the own security guys or somethin' So now we got the brand new 14-inch rusted alloy tetanus hi-hats and the 16-inch modern bent shit-blasted FX Crash
This man took a 30 dollar brandless crash... *Ahem* "Ride Cymbal" beat the shit out of it with a hammer, buried it, wrote Minle on it, and claimed it was played by a Prestigious Saxophonist in attempts to sell it....Best Channel on RUclips.
He seriously has a nice touch on the kit. I have definitely learned a thing or two from watching his channel. I absolutely love that Meinl ride with the rivets
there are some filter and effects on the audio. So it isn't true representation on how it actually sound like. I can guarantee, they sound TRASH irl, the only cheap cymbal that sound decent are if it's used on hihat.
What music is this on these time stamps? It sounds so chill, laid back, and beautiful. Is this one of your music that’s going to be released soon? 4:24 & 4:49
My favorite cymbals will always be dream bliss cymbals. I know there's probably better more expensive ones out there. But as soon as I tried them out in highschool, I feel in love. I don't drum anymore because I'm broke, but if I ever can in the future, I'm definitely snagging a set.
My 20" Dream Ride and the 15" hats are godly. I got a solid deal at my local music center, and I like using medium-thin 20" rides as crashes, so it's a perfect sound there. Closest substitute I could find for an old vintage 19" Meinl I abused past its use back in the day.
@@jamesmcmackin8773 man they really are a treat to use, my other band mates found it weird that I liked them so much, they would always say a cymbal was a cymbal no matter what brand/model, then laughed at me for liking the look of the dream dark matter cymbals, and called it a blue corn chip.
@@josezuniga3747 I always liked Wuhan's traditional lines of cymbals. They've gone up in price slightly over the years, but are still very competitively priced for being handmade B20 bronze. Dream is essentially just a logical step up in quality (and price) from those. The decidedly thinner weights are great for a crash/ride if you don't mind a bit of a wash to the tone.
Okay okay, firstly you didn't bury your cymbal not deep enough (you know the 6 feet rule) , and secondly you didn't let it age enough. It takes a good month or two for the earth to transfer its warm tones to the cymbal. Also, if you try again I'd suggest you burry it in a wet soil, not too sandy and with a good clay and humus content. The moisture will help the surface to oxidate which only aids with the transferal of warm earthy tones to the buried cymbal
6:23 I can tell you have studied with the great cymbal smiths :) All jokes aside, this is a great uploads....shows that with a great drummer, you can make about any cymbal or drum sound good!
1:33 BAHAHAHA you got yourself a brass plate! Like the stock ''cymbals'' that came with my beginner drum. I tried piling them to make a stack, but they aren't even good enough for that. For Wish: brass > b20
I always use brass stacks, especially for "clap" sounds. Were yours the heavy kind (like ZBTs/other big 3 starter cymbals)? Because these are super thin which is what you want for stacking.
I had a dream today, where I was at rehersal space with you Zack. For some reason we were shirtless.... You know, I like girls, but it was nice dream and we played some drums))
Hey man, thanks for what you’ve been doing, I’m currently in quarantine cuz of covid, but your videos have been awesome and they are just what I need right now when I can’t be near anyone or do anything. Thanks bro.
after everything you put that cymbal through it turned out as genuinely not a bad trash crash and at least you made it sound kinda more like a ride cymbal albeit a very bad one lmao
Hell yeah I love I found your RUclips channel, loved the zelda music in the background, your drumming skills are awesome I'm trying to get good at playing as well, taking some time but I'm seeing progress
I honestly think non-drummers wouldn't be able to tell it was in the kit. I would love to see a wave form comparison to another more expensive symbol. Keep up the work man.
8:46 is there a name for this type of style? Or like is there a name for that type of groove/beat i dont know what to call it sorry im not super knowledgeable about drumming.
Although it’s not the exact groove, I did just get finished listening to that tune “kipling theme” by kamasi washington before i sat behind the drums in that clip haha
My first drums came with 15" crash/ride cymbal, I modified it too (smashed it and threw like frisbee a few times) and now its the perfect thrash china ever
You know, for $30 dollars and some hammering, I might just do it - I'm in need of a medium size trash cymb for my tom side, but am not down spend on an O Zone right now I would consider making a hammered stack with it too
My first thought was, "that doesn't look remotely big enough to be a ride cymbal." And lo and behold, it sounded like he was riding on a splash cymbal.
Zach grooves, I really dig what you do and I like your sound. I have watched all of your videos and I like to see you grow... And become a better musician
Hammering really improved the sound quality! Gonna try that on my e-kit cymbals , thanks Zack!
🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣
Iseewhatchadidthere
As an E-Kit User, can verify this is true.
Deleted system 32 also, big improvement
The "Minle" Killed me.
Wtf it’s Brandon
We need to compare it with a Pistea and a Zidjilan
That cymbal doesnt even sound that bad when played by a skilled drummer like Zack
Facts though.
It's also edited
His mum played it best
Honestly I was digging the last groove. No pun intended.
it still sounds bad
Zack’s consistent uploads are a day saver
Ye very consistent
Week*
@@kitodemey492 so consistent lol
sorry but he’s not consistent, wish he was
but I guess good videos take longer 👍
It kind of sounds like a trash can lid but it actually sounded better when you hammered it 😆
A lot better ngl
There's a reason they make cymbals like that!
I did the same with a friend's china. it was a crappy-ass china cymbal, so we thought of modifying it. At first I hammered it as hell, but using an anvil (actually a sledgehammer head) so hammering would no compromise the integrity. Then I put the cymbal on a drill to make it turn like they do in cymbal manufacturing, and sanded it until the finish was smooth. Then I drilled holes, 3/4 inch to 1 and 1/2 inches, and honestly at that point it looked real pretty. Still sounded like crap, but a prettier crap.
Man, at my music school we got cymbals worse than that. Some students gave them away to the school because the ones we had would be stolen even by the own security guys or somethin'
So now we got the brand new 14-inch rusted alloy tetanus hi-hats and the 16-inch modern bent shit-blasted FX Crash
This man took a 30 dollar brandless crash... *Ahem* "Ride Cymbal" beat the shit out of it with a hammer, buried it, wrote Minle on it, and claimed it was played by a Prestigious Saxophonist in attempts to sell it....Best Channel on RUclips.
Even told them that sweet water was better
What a class jazz drummer, not many these days.
That’s a lie, there are countless talented jazz drummers in every single town
There are many.
Eric Harland and Marcus Gilmore are among my favorite contemporaries :) check them out if you haven’t already!
too many in nyc, thats a fact
He seriously has a nice touch on the kit. I have definitely learned a thing or two from watching his channel. I absolutely love that Meinl ride with the rivets
Yeah it sounds pretty bad lol BUT I love making stacks with poopy cymbals. And honestly after you hammered it 🍆 it actually sounded pretty good
Yep! In stacks, only thinness really matters
"🍆"?
It's nice that you brought a digging expert along when you buried it.
I'll be expecting to see a video of you using this in a gig lol. You will definitely get 10k likes today
It's going to be great.
he’s at 11k now
Godammit
A promise is a promise
Lol
You need to soak it in vinegar and coffee creamer, then leave it outside for a week to make it look expensive
Wait is this for real hahaha.
@@julesdrums6167 ketchup works too😆 i tried it b4 hahahahahah idk abt vinegar and coffee creamer doe
@@KeannuArroyo y’all are just fucking with me right?
@@julesdrums6167 nah bro try it
@@julesdrums6167 rdavidr made a video about making patina on your cymbals
“It took six months to get here?”
“Eight months.”
“Okay, good.”
Love it 😂
got to mention the hammer hits synchronized with the music was very satisfying
Ahh somebody noticed! 😂❤️
4:35
Ugh, that lick hits my soul
Love the post-hammer tones actually. I like it more than how it showed up at least
Bottom line a great musician can make something cheap still sound good
Not even lying, I’m not a drum player but I kinda like the sound of it, sounds different and interesting using a crash cymbal as a ride
Exactly
hahahahahaha
nice one
there are some filter and effects on the audio. So it isn't true representation on how it actually sound like. I can guarantee, they sound TRASH irl, the only cheap cymbal that sound decent are if it's used on hihat.
@Boy Kulot Eh, I always use a crash-ride as my main ride. It does have a slightly stick-forward stick/wash ratio but I live for that washy sound!
@@potassiumchloride2542 What filters or efx are u talking about bro? The over head mics? Lol
That "sweetwater is better" at the end got me rolling lol
Getting that laugh out of Domo was worth the $30 and 8 month wait lolol
Domo has the best laugh
Ngl that Wish cymbal sounds way better than whatever crash/ride thing came with my first drum kit.
bruh the COD hit scan thing on the bell killed me
What can we learn from this? A great drummer can make anything sound good
"it was played by Charlie Parker"
Ah yes Charlie Parker the great jazz drummer.
It doesn't sound bad! I would say it's a crash for sure.
You've done it now, 500k sub special: Jazz gig on a WISH ONLY kit
the hitmarkers at 5:15 absolutely SENT ME
What music is this on these time stamps? It sounds so chill, laid back, and beautiful. Is this one of your music that’s going to be released soon?
4:24 & 4:49
I NEED to know!!!!
Thanks, Zack... I'll hammer my cymbal now
6:38 It improves...notoriously. 8:45 Improves even more....
it sounds like a splash!!
now im thinking on doing it to my r e a l l y old crash
Bro I used to get yelled at ALL THE TIME for digging holes in the yard...I don't even really remember why I used to do it...
My favorite cymbals will always be dream bliss cymbals. I know there's probably better more expensive ones out there. But as soon as I tried them out in highschool, I feel in love. I don't drum anymore because I'm broke, but if I ever can in the future, I'm definitely snagging a set.
My 20" Dream Ride and the 15" hats are godly. I got a solid deal at my local music center, and I like using medium-thin 20" rides as crashes, so it's a perfect sound there. Closest substitute I could find for an old vintage 19" Meinl I abused past its use back in the day.
@@jamesmcmackin8773 man they really are a treat to use, my other band mates found it weird that I liked them so much, they would always say a cymbal was a cymbal no matter what brand/model, then laughed at me for liking the look of the dream dark matter cymbals, and called it a blue corn chip.
@@josezuniga3747 I always liked Wuhan's traditional lines of cymbals. They've gone up in price slightly over the years, but are still very competitively priced for being handmade B20 bronze. Dream is essentially just a logical step up in quality (and price) from those. The decidedly thinner weights are great for a crash/ride if you don't mind a bit of a wash to the tone.
@@josezuniga3747 saying “a cymbal is a cymbal” really broke my heart.
10k just 3 hours in. Party at Zack's gig y'all!
1:52 I felt that editing 😂
4:25 Bro that track is fire like, its heaven on my ears 😩👌
After some modifications it sounded pretty unique and acceptable. Not the greatest cymbal I've ever heard but definitely usable
6:23 - How to make any of your favorite cymbals like a Paiste Sound-edge with one easy trick!
dude this videos are going to a next level, keep it up please its amazing
Omg his Chills voice impression was on point! I love faking that awkward voice
Dude right 😂😂😂
@@ZackGrooves bro yeah me and my sister impersonate him all the time
It sounds like crash but a unique one without the tape, it could still be used
You are not just one of my overall favorite creators, but also my absolite favorite to watch when I am drunk...
Gotta loooove those Minle cymbals!
i didn't laugh this entire video, until you made that sweetwater comment. im literally crying. ily zach
Dude, I love that you used Epona's Song.
Also, what a savage ending! hahahah
Okay okay, firstly you didn't bury your cymbal not deep enough (you know the 6 feet rule) , and secondly you didn't let it age enough. It takes a good month or two for the earth to transfer its warm tones to the cymbal. Also, if you try again I'd suggest you burry it in a wet soil, not too sandy and with a good clay and humus content. The moisture will help the surface to oxidate which only aids with the transferal of warm earthy tones to the buried cymbal
Nice 👍
6:23 I can tell you have studied with the great cymbal smiths :) All jokes aside, this is a great uploads....shows that with a great drummer, you can make about any cymbal or drum sound good!
The cheap cymbal sounds way better than I expected but that monophonic cymbal has a heavenly wash!
All my homies love Zack 💯
This is Crash, needs more hammering to transform it to ride!!But from a good of wish didn't sound too bad!!
1:33 BAHAHAHA you got yourself a brass plate! Like the stock ''cymbals'' that came with my beginner drum. I tried piling them to make a stack, but they aren't even good enough for that.
For Wish: brass > b20
I always use brass stacks, especially for "clap" sounds. Were yours the heavy kind (like ZBTs/other big 3 starter cymbals)? Because these are super thin which is what you want for stacking.
Ok ngl, I kinda liked how the “ride” cymbal sounds as a crash (before zack tortured and buried it alive)
I had a dream today, where I was at rehersal space with you Zack.
For some reason we were shirtless....
You know, I like girls, but it was nice dream and we played some drums))
LMAO
Those CHORDS. 😱😱😱😱🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hey man, thanks for what you’ve been doing, I’m currently in quarantine cuz of covid, but your videos have been awesome and they are just what I need right now when I can’t be near anyone or do anything. Thanks bro.
If you leave a cymbal buried long enough, you'll forget how it sounded before.
Ahahahaha! Zack really just buried that cymbal 😂
as the saying goes, "you get what you pay for!'
Played by you it's absolutely amazing. I consider myself as the best drummer in the world but today this video change my mind. You are the boss!
Still waiting on that jazz gig with this
Really bro... wish. nice.
Edit: 8:29 you got some nice earthy dry cymbals right there 🔥
I love how you uploaded this video after just getting signed to Meinl😂 love the vids Zach
Come here..... no, a little closer
😘 GOTCHA
5:04 made me laugh
after everything you put that cymbal through it turned out as genuinely not a bad trash crash and at least you made it sound kinda more like a ride cymbal albeit a very bad one lmao
I've never played the drums, but this is excellent content lol
Still waiting on a gig with that cymbal
Good to see the mother, I'm subbed to her channel aha
Not gonna lie, sounds dope as a fast crash.
Gotta use it for a Cymbal stack dawg
I'm glad you told us when it was being played without music, I was unsure.
Come on y’all, lets show our “like” chops and get this vid to 10K. Who doesn’t want to see the switch out??? 😂😂😂
Just like clothing, you have to order several sizes larger than you need when ordering from Wish. You want a ride? Order a gong.
Loving the longer vids!
Hell yeah I love I found your RUclips channel, loved the zelda music in the background, your drumming skills are awesome I'm trying to get good at playing as well, taking some time but I'm seeing progress
imagine they were actually good lol, i am suprised they even came in the mail
I honestly think non-drummers wouldn't be able to tell it was in the kit. I would love to see a wave form comparison to another more expensive symbol. Keep up the work man.
I bought a monophonic because of you. Peak beauty 💦
sexy bonus points for the lon lon ranch theme
As a former guitar center employee I can attest we all know that sweetwater is better
that $30 ride sounded better than the meinl one dry and smooth
8:46 is there a name for this type of style? Or like is there a name for that type of groove/beat i dont know what to call it sorry im not super knowledgeable about drumming.
Although it’s not the exact groove, I did just get finished listening to that tune “kipling theme” by kamasi washington before i sat behind the drums in that clip haha
My first drums came with 15" crash/ride cymbal, I modified it too (smashed it and threw like frisbee a few times) and now its the perfect thrash china ever
Wish: hot deals for when quality doesn't matter
Drill some holes, might be an amazingly weird FX crash
You know, for $30 dollars and some hammering, I might just do it - I'm in need of a medium size trash cymb for my tom side, but am not down spend on an O Zone right now
I would consider making a hammered stack with it too
your hats, though. OMG. Such magnificance!
I really dig this crash. It’s my kind of sound, bright, articulate and fast.
He makes that cymbal sound pretty good 👍
Bro nobody gunna mention him talking like Chills?? That shit had me so weak I knew immediately 😂😂😂😂 it’s like you know me Zack I swear
I love how he was being gentle with the cymbal when burying it at first, but then he just stomped it in and kinda brushed over the fact that he did 😂
It sounds like a splash cymbal When you crash it
“Sweetwater’s better” ☠️😂🤣😂🤣😂 DECEASED
That bell man, god damn. The overall sound of the cymbal is like a vsti kit come to life
9:00 Yeah! 🤘
Ngl that actually sounded way better than I was expecting
honestly after the hammer and dirt experiment, it would make a decent secondary cymbal. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Got an ad when you said I am going to blindfold my mother
My first thought was, "that doesn't look remotely big enough to be a ride cymbal." And lo and behold, it sounded like he was riding on a splash cymbal.
Zach grooves, I really dig what you do and I like your sound. I have watched all of your videos and I like to see you grow... And become a better musician
It's the adult version of the cymbal that comes with one of those First Act Discovery kid's sets.
Im loving the idea of taking it around and trying sell it as a minle I died when I saw that!!!!!!
Thats Meinl's Chinese brother Minlee