@@sixstanger00 Oh yeah I've seen that episode. Also, I suddenly remembered how unsettling that scene gets. 👀💦 That said, I like that they had the doctors from Voyager and Enterprise in the same scene.
This is the same man who was turned into a Salamander in excruciating pain for days. Nitric Acid going directly into his bloodstream is child's play to him.
Star Fleet made a mistake by not implementing hologram space marines in star ships. Imagine a soldier that can hit you with the strength of 20 men and have the ability to let matter and phaser fire go right through it without taking damage. That kind of soldier can reduce a platoon of Klingon warriors to dust in minutes.
They would have to be povered by ships energy and it's usually down when boarding happens besides they would propably find a way to get rid of them with some sort of radiation or subspace waves or other stuff.
In Voyager, there was one episode where a hologram murdered his entire crew. Somehow I think Star fleet was better off not implementing space marines, as that would’ve been tricky to deal with.
@@masterchief119-i9p i think that would limit their operational space to few key points and made them quite useless since enemy could just transport around them.
@@thefurrybastard1964 I suppose if the two were forced to fight the battle may literally never end. Sort of like the two Lazaruses going at it at the end of "The Alternative Factor."
late reply, I know, but I imagine it was actually the editors that goofed on that. I doubt the prop made any noise itself and then the editors added the hypo injection noise a little later than Paris' reaction, making it look like the he reacted too soon.
Citro, Seska rigged it so they couldnt end program or give comouter commands. Was great episode, think its called "Worst Case Senario", Tuvok wrote an entertaining muitany training program. Paris & Tuvok got trapped inside when reinitializing the holonovel.
@@andrewtyler7648 Because the holo-emitters are not visible in a holodeck program. Holodeck programs basically seamlessly create a fictional reality that is indistinguishable from real life, requiring vocal commands to the computer or access to well hidden computer panels in order to break the illusion. If they fired a phaser, the phaser would just interact with the holograms and nothing else.
seriously, holo emitters in the corridors, generate up some holographic officer, give them a phaser rifle each et viola, instant EMH, emergrncy marine hologram, should the ship ever be boarded
They don't have deck wide holographic emitters, I.E in the corridors, rooms and other sections of the ship...and that would probably cause more problems than it would solve...did ya even watch the show? Aside from the massive power requirements draining voyagers limited supply and reserves during the most critical or dangerous situations...they could be easily hacked or disabled by a technologically sophisticated enemy as well as just random damage to voyager during battle...not to mention the manpower required to maintain and service the vast holographic network throughout the ship... This is completely ignoring the frequent, practically rampant and inevitable situations when the holographic technology malfunctions and becomes a serious danger to the crew who are using it for "entertainment"...at least those cases are somewhat confined to a none critical area and limited to threatening the lives of a limited number of off duty personnel...now image various hoards of demented holographic characters running freely around the ship unrestricted with the safety protocols disabled...damaging critical systems like the warp core or life support and slaughtering key crew members responsible for say piloting and navigation etc... It's a very bad idea...
@chris ince they litterally design entire holographic towns and citizens for fun on starships...And it's fairly blatantly implied that Quark has a holo brothel on DS9
@@SimplyChris the replicators have gone off the rails, the computer has gone off the rails, the crew frequently goes off the rails and they still have all of those. The EMH for the most part has been a benefit
Indeed. There's another video that explains it. Doc obviously let Tuvok disarm himl. Probably for the same reason he let them go -- the game wouldn't be much fun for Seska if the doctor killed them off. ruclips.net/video/Z8oe-GYhECg/видео.html
for the same reason you can shoot bullets off of Superman's chest but if you throw your gun at him he ducks.... the show writer would say Tuvok grabbed the hypo
@@trilldrake1211 Star Trek writers have historically(or hysterically) made holograms who can touch and be touched on the holodecks and hold hyposprays in the medical bay. sometimes you can wave your hand through them and sometimes you can hug them. keeps us guessing.
This scene takes places in a corrupted holonovel on the holodeck so the most that can happen with that is that Paris feels a lot of pain but he doesn't suffer the side effects.
A little piece of trivia. Robert Picardo actually injected Robert Duncan McNeill with REAL acid during this scene for realism without his prior knowledge. McNeill and Russ' reactions and attempted blows here are genuine and non-scripted.
He also can't exist outside of two rooms on the ship most of the time and, when he does, he has a big obvious f*** me button on his arm. I think that balances things out a bit.
Any doctors want to comment on the therapeutic effects of NITRIC ACID? What does he even have that for? Is he going to do some silver etching for some reason?
Sorry, but I can't help but think of this quote: "The fare is 18 Credits, please! Thank you for choosing Johnny Cab! We hope you enjoyed the ride! Haha!" (Not the first time Robert Picardo played a computerized something that went nuts eheh)
Vulcans are naturally several times stronger than a human. Can the Doctor really "make" himself strong enough to smack down a Vulcan, or is this Seska's story enhancement? Can the Doctor theoretically become the strongest person on the ship when called for?
Because Paris and Tuvok were in a holo deck story at that time. The story was written to first injure and in the end kill them. Before they were at the sick bay, they didn't knew that the doctor would also harm them. Their commands would also have been ignored by the simulations computer. Plus, they might have given the evil characters of the story access to the real ship by using override commands.
@@jonasklose6472 Yes, I remember now. Seska programmed the holodeck, but I'm still surprised that they didn't try to shut his program down before fighting with him.
No matter how the crew acts superior to the Doc, he HAS to be the prospect of reason as fighting him is a prime example that Starfleet is a bunch of moronic babies!
incredible technology ... goes right through clothing fabric... if you could even use it on a knights amor made of steel ? or even a thick wall ?.. treating someone in the next room .... and ohhh look i m healing ... a wonder... and everyone oh look at him ... a SAINT !!! the holy one is here... or version B : a witch burn her !
I love it when they allow Robert Picardo to do unhinged stuff like this, he's so brilliant at it. 😊👍
Agreed! He was perfect on Stargate as well because they let his dark side show more IMO.
You should see him and John Billingsley in The Orville S2's _"Home"_
@@sixstanger00 Oh yeah I've seen that episode. Also, I suddenly remembered how unsettling that scene gets. 👀💦 That said, I like that they had the doctors from Voyager and Enterprise in the same scene.
Always a pleasure to have him on screen.
I love how Paris just seems mostly fine after a little while after having had a STRONG ACID injected into his gibblets
This is the same man who was turned into a Salamander in excruciating pain for days. Nitric Acid going directly into his bloodstream is child's play to him.
Paris is a long lost descendant of Chuck Norris.
@@joelellis7035 Other way around. Don't forget the time he was sent to before the Big Bang.
Based on the show overall, he does come across as another Doctor Bashir, but if so, Paris's genetic enhancements are never uncovered.
@@Nasafalkas1 Of course not. His father is an Admiral. Forbidden tech is only forbidden for the plebs.
I love how Tom starts screaming before the stuff is actually injected.
You know he was a kid scared of needles.
Grabbing an arm with second degree burns on it tends to hurt a bit.
He had been shot.
I have a phobia of hyposprays thanks very much!
also could've been cause he knew what was coming due to the doc saying it
Haha, I love the doctor like this. "You're looking well", while strangling his patient. So obtuse haha
It's more like "You're looking well...and I'm going to do something about it"
If a Ferengi was treated like this by the Doctor, he or she would scream "You jerk, I'll sue you for malpractice!".
Federation Doctor: Erm you realize we don't use money in our society right?
@@CommisarHood Ferengi: Then I'll have your medical license revoked and I'll have you sent to prison for assault!
@@CommisarHood Have you totally forgotten about gold pressed latinum?
sure be a sign on the way in or in there that it say dont piss off the doctor or get what coming to u
Don't worry dude, I got what you were referencing! A Ferengi, or a human turned borg turned human that THINKS she's a Ferengi, am I right?😜
Definitely how I treat my patients when they come in.
At least you get no malingering.
are you a dentist or ortho?
@@thecursed01 Psych. ;)
Star Fleet made a mistake by not implementing hologram space marines in star ships. Imagine a soldier that can hit you with the strength of 20 men and have the ability to let matter and phaser fire go right through it without taking damage. That kind of soldier can reduce a platoon of Klingon warriors to dust in minutes.
They would have to be povered by ships energy and it's usually down when boarding happens besides they would propably find a way to get rid of them with some sort of radiation or subspace waves or other stuff.
@@Bolshevik.remover True, hey how about the hologram soldiers have their own protected power source, like the star ship's main computer.
In Voyager, there was one episode where a hologram murdered his entire crew. Somehow I think Star fleet was better off not implementing space marines, as that would’ve been tricky to deal with.
@@lucaslucas2933 that's another reason.
@@masterchief119-i9p i think that would limit their operational space to few key points and made them quite useless since enemy could just transport around them.
One blow from the EMH puts Tuvok down. I wonder how much the hit would have affected Data.
Voided his service warranty.
I think the EMH can be as strong as he needs to be, so he could concievably floor Data.
@@thefurrybastard1964 But he presumably isn't always maxed out. I was referring to his default strength.
@@terminat1 Fair point. And there's also the fact that wasn't the EMH in this video but a character in a Holonovel.
@@thefurrybastard1964 I suppose if the two were forced to fight the battle may literally never end. Sort of like the two Lazaruses going at it at the end of "The Alternative Factor."
When you show up for an appointment and you have insurance that always gives the doctor a hassle.
Thankfully The Doctor's bedside manner improved over this. :D
That was the most threatening "you're looking well" I've ever heard
That hurt so much!
Glad you're ok.
Did it hurt worse than being in Masters of the Universe in 1987?
@@DonCDXX that was my doppelganger, Robert Duncan McNeil. People get us mixed up all the time!
Love that smile he does like "Can't hurt me"
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Tom Paris' scream?
20 cc is a lot of fluid to be injecting into someone.
The injection probably wasn't completed.
"You're looking well"
Paris: I’m fine
Also Paris: UAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Another patient snatched from the jaws of health
Well, they always told me, doctors have a bad bedside manner. An that just about provides it. 😂lol🤣
I think Paris reacted a moment too soon with the nitric acid.
He was probably reacting to the dispenser being pressed into his injury first then the nitric acid.
late reply, I know, but I imagine it was actually the editors that goofed on that. I doubt the prop made any noise itself and then the editors added the hypo injection noise a little later than Paris' reaction, making it look like the he reacted too soon.
He was reacting in expectation of pain upon realizing what the doctor said.
His prostate exams are real killers.
At least you never need a second one.
😳😳😆😆
Why didn’t they just say, computer, deactivate emh.
Citro, Seska rigged it so they couldnt end program or give comouter commands. Was great episode, think its called "Worst Case Senario", Tuvok wrote an entertaining muitany training program. Paris & Tuvok got trapped inside when reinitializing the holonovel.
T Snowy23 you are correct. I’ve just watched it on Netflix. 👍
How come they do shoot the holo-emitters?
@@andrewtyler7648 Because the holo-emitters are not visible in a holodeck program. Holodeck programs basically seamlessly create a fictional reality that is indistinguishable from real life, requiring vocal commands to the computer or access to well hidden computer panels in order to break the illusion. If they fired a phaser, the phaser would just interact with the holograms and nothing else.
@@korvasterindar9672 With a real Phaser it might work, but theirs were part of the program
seriously, holo emitters in the corridors, generate up some holographic officer, give them a phaser rifle each et viola, instant EMH, emergrncy marine hologram, should the ship ever be boarded
They don't have deck wide holographic emitters, I.E in the corridors, rooms and other sections of the ship...and that would probably cause more problems than it would solve...did ya even watch the show?
Aside from the massive power requirements draining voyagers limited supply and reserves during the most critical or dangerous situations...they could be easily hacked or disabled by a technologically sophisticated enemy as well as just random damage to voyager during battle...not to mention the manpower required to maintain and service the vast holographic network throughout the ship...
This is completely ignoring the frequent, practically rampant and inevitable situations when the holographic technology malfunctions and becomes a serious danger to the crew who are using it for "entertainment"...at least those cases are somewhat confined to a none critical area and limited to threatening the lives of a limited number of off duty personnel...now image various hoards of demented holographic characters running freely around the ship unrestricted with the safety protocols disabled...damaging critical systems like the warp core or life support and slaughtering key crew members responsible for say piloting and navigation etc...
It's a very bad idea...
@chris ince they litterally design entire holographic towns and citizens for fun on starships...And it's fairly blatantly implied that Quark has a holo brothel on DS9
Becasue Holos in Star Trek have never gone off the rails...
@@SimplyChris the replicators have gone off the rails, the computer has gone off the rails, the crew frequently goes off the rails and they still have all of those. The EMH for the most part has been a benefit
@@Shamelesscritique1 But you'd totally watch that episode.
Wait, how does Tuvok disarm the doctor when Paris can't even make physical contact? :/
Indeed. There's another video that explains it. Doc obviously let Tuvok disarm himl. Probably for the same reason he let them go -- the game wouldn't be much fun for Seska if the doctor killed them off. ruclips.net/video/Z8oe-GYhECg/видео.html
He was holding a hypospray. If the arm was not solid it would fall from his grasp.
for the same reason you can shoot bullets off of Superman's chest but if you throw your gun at him he ducks....
the show writer would say Tuvok grabbed the hypo
The hypo spray was an actual physical object while the doctor is just a hologram.
@@trilldrake1211 Star Trek writers have historically(or hysterically) made holograms who can touch and be touched on the holodecks and hold hyposprays in the medical bay. sometimes you can wave your hand through them and sometimes you can hug them. keeps us guessing.
Most urgent cares be like:
My doctor is like that too, doesn't even buy me a drink before stabbing or impaling me XD
I remember this episode it the one where Paris and Tuvok are trapped in a dangerous holodeck program made by a old adversary of the star ship voyager
Now I need to find someone whos never seen this episode and watch their reaction
I have no clue of what is happening
@@andrel8243 basically the two guys are stuck in a holographic program and everyone wants to make them suffer
this is pretty much how the
EMH
was during season 1
This clip is from seven years back. Oddly I was thinking of this episode this morning, but only vaguely. Then this shows up in my recommended. Weird.
Coincidence I think not!
Picardo chewed the scenery so hard there XD
dont you put the "proverbial nitric acid in the wound
This is how engineers always feel about clients... "Just listen, take my advice, you will thank me later, now go away".
I might have to watch this episode again tonight.
The Doc pulled an Obito uchiha on Paris lol
Searched for the Naruto reference, not disappointed.
Nitric acid? Rip Tom and his suddenly acidic blood
Blood's acidic normally, injecting a shot of acid would just give him a burn/ulcer. Depends how concentrated it is.
This scene takes places in a corrupted holonovel on the holodeck so the most that can happen with that is that Paris feels a lot of pain but he doesn't suffer the side effects.
**When you're not health insured**
Lol! 0:10. I miss Voyager.😢
Doctor "You require treatment "
Tom" Your treatment can kiss my heiny"
Doctor" It can be arranged with 20 cc's of butt-asaurus acid "
Doctor own them like a Wraith.
It's funny when the doctor fights the voyager crue he seems so strong but when they're attacked by enemies he's always weaker and easy to defeat...:))
It's always easier to abuse your own family.
His program has safeties built in. He's only a danger if his program is messed with.
He must've downloaded that big NHS software update
Somehow I missed this episode
Lucky this wasn't the real doctor. It was just a hologram of him
Now his blood is flammable.
A little piece of trivia. Robert Picardo actually injected Robert Duncan McNeill with REAL acid during this scene for realism without his prior knowledge.
McNeill and Russ' reactions and attempted blows here are genuine and non-scripted.
I wonder did Seska like the doctors attitude
Personally, I could have enjoyed watching Doc beat up Paris some more.
And they said the EMH didn't have a good bed-side manner....
'Now lets go to the messhall and let Neelix burn us with a frying pan.'
Reminds me of my local GP.
Doctor seems a little sassy today.
How the fuck was the Doctor corporeal enough to choke Tuvok and immaterial enough for Tom's hand to go through his head?
He kept his hands solid, but not the rest of himself.
He can change his form at will and become corporeal or not corporeal anytime he wants.
Computers.
His hands were pc compatible and his torso and head Mac...
Space magic.
He just shot 20 mL of nitric acid into his arm. Oww.
(Smack. Throat grab) "You're looking well." 🤣🤣🤣
Okay, so the holographic doctor has mass when he wants to, but doesn't have mass when he also doesn't want to.
This is way too OP.
He was given that upgrade during the beowulf episode
Not mass. Force fields.
@@Shadowkey392 Not only that, but apparent fine control telekinetics.
He also can't exist outside of two rooms on the ship most of the time and, when he does, he has a big obvious f*** me button on his arm. I think that balances things out a bit.
@Phillip Banes Wrong fan base, buddy.
He should have listen to the doctor
Jesus uss voyager The EMH ethical subroutines had a major meltdown what did them 2 officer's do to piss the EMH off
What the actual ....
I watched this on tv 5 mintues ago
It's episode 3x25.
Yes, it seems it was ep25, not 24. I have corrected the error and added additional credits. Thanks
Thank you x
0:24 American health care in a nutshell
And Canada when they don't get their raises.
Ah the power of medical procedures...
A holodeck program went haywire thanks to Saska
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Britain's NHS after five more years of the Tories
😂 voyages doctor in a bad mood
Can someone please say what episode this is?
"Worst Case Scenario" from season 3, episode 25. It's in the description.
Any doctors want to comment on the therapeutic effects of NITRIC ACID? What does he even have that for? Is he going to do some silver etching for some reason?
Great make up job...doesn't even look like my doctor...and yet.
You broke your arm? how is this twists auugh
Sorry, but I can't help but think of this quote:
"The fare is 18 Credits, please! Thank you for choosing Johnny Cab! We hope you enjoyed the ride! Haha!"
(Not the first time Robert Picardo played a computerized something that went nuts eheh)
"Sue me, dickhead!"
haha i loved when he said "The door opened, you got in!" like damn what do you say to that?
@@aerisgainsborough2141 LOL! I know right?
This happens when you go to a doctor as a Medicare patient.
Right-winger detected.
Vulcans are naturally several times stronger than a human. Can the Doctor really "make" himself strong enough to smack down a Vulcan, or is this Seska's story enhancement? Can the Doctor theoretically become the strongest person on the ship when called for?
His solidity/strength is just cleverly applied force fields so his upper limit would probably depend on the capacity of the holo projector.
Why didn't someone just tell the computer to deactivate the EMH? Lol
Because Paris and Tuvok were in a holo deck story at that time. The story was written to first injure and in the end kill them. Before they were at the sick bay, they didn't knew that the doctor would also harm them. Their commands would also have been ignored by the simulations computer. Plus, they might have given the evil characters of the story access to the real ship by using override commands.
@@jonasklose6472 Yes, I remember now. Seska programmed the holodeck, but I'm still surprised that they didn't try to shut his program down before fighting with him.
Maybe they should have kept Seska around for longer. An intelligent recurring enemy could have done the show some good.
Starfleet + Maquis + Vulcan traitor spy = Voyager crew ... set aside their feud, cooperate and join forces to get home.
Voyager crew + Cardassian spy = unforgivable, irredeemable, irreversible, irrevocable hatred and enmity.
Not gonna lie. It drives me bonkers that Star Trek has this pathological need to put the word "proverbial" in front of ludicrously obvious proverbs.
How many Renaissance and Protestant Reformation proverbs do you know? Especially if they came from another planet
Funny!
So funny😊
No matter how the crew acts superior to the Doc, he HAS to be the prospect of reason as fighting him is a prime example that Starfleet is a bunch of moronic babies!
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incredible technology ... goes right through clothing fabric... if you could even use it on a knights amor made of steel ? or even a thick wall ?.. treating someone in the next room .... and ohhh look i m healing ... a wonder... and everyone oh look at him ... a SAINT !!! the holy one is here... or version B : a witch burn her !
20 mL of a strong acid will have a little more effect than you going AHHHH
I fucking hate how little this show knows what holograms are.
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