Honda crf300l vs crf300l rally. Why would you choose the L?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- In this Honda crf 300l vs crf300l rally video I cover the benefits of the 300l vs the 300 Rally.
Having looked at the pros of the Honda CRF 300 Rally in one of my latest videos, I thought it was time to revisit the CRF 300L and discuss the reasosn why you would want to choose this model over the Rally. I also had a blast thrashing about on some local tracks.
I watch because of the beautiful countryside and your a fairly good rider. The compression wipes out the higher production values as well.(:-)
Thanks for the feedback. Always good to hear. Agreed re the compression. The file sizes of videos get huge if I up the quality but it doesn’t always show once uploaded.
After a year you know by heart all the trails near your city, so either you ride again and again the same tracks or you need a trailer attached to your car with the 300L. The Rally is better for exploring far away when you already know all your near area (it will happen soon). In my opinion the suspension is not that terrible to start with and you can upgrade it as you progres to long trips with load or more tech tracks (near or not). Nice video mate.
True, I’m always looking for more tracks. Ive spent all day upgrading parts on the 300L so looking forward to taking it for a ride tomorrow.
I have Rally 300 (well 250 here in Indonesia...). The suspension is a bubble gum joke, I got YSS shock and did Racetech gold valve plus second spring, it's awesome now ($1000 usd). My bike has Euro 5 ECU, terrible off idle fueling, fixing that but as it's weird 250cc bike, not easy. I suggest buying lower crash bars/skid plate, it sure saved my plastic few times already (m15 performance products, made here in Indonesia). The steel bars are also super soft, so fat bar and proper hand guards should be on your list (like the L). I do lots of "adv" rides, 75% small roads, 25% dirt. With stock tires, the front end never felt good, the bike would tip excessively into turns.....After few tries I am now happy with Dunlops D605s ($120 for both here), good balance for both road and dirt. Once you set up the Rally (I got $2000 in my), it's the ultimate, Asian adv bike (just came back from a 3300 km ride). The L is a trail bike, but for that I have a locally made CRF150L, stripped down a bit, at 115 kgs. Good vids, be safe.
Great feedback. Agree about the shock. I have a Rally Raid shock coming from the UK. I have installed Outback Motortek crash bars. Have Acerbis handguards on order and may look into lower engine guards and skid plate although I don’t do too much rough stuff on the Rally so may get away without them. The fuelling on my 300 is great, no issues there. The heat is way better than the 300L which im sorting with an ECU tune and full system.
I’m tempted with Fat bars on my L with risers as I don’t like the standing position on it currently.
How are the D605’s in the wet? I’ve heard some complaints about them.
Love both bikes for different reasons. I used to have the CRF 150L , nice bike but underpowered for what I wanted to do on it.
Thanks for commenting.
@TripleB6036 I ride on side roads that typically are already contaminated with sand and such. When riding in wet, I simply slow down a bit. The 605s are great for my riding style.
@@pawelwolski1316that’s good to know as they seem to be one of the only dual sport tires readily available here.
I run the MT 21 Pirellis front and rear and they work well in all conditions. The throttle works great on my L with the EU ECU after doing a throttle reset. The stock suspension is horrendous off-road. I did the YSS shock and open cartridge forks. This makes a huge improvement although the shock fades quickly when pushing the bike over rough ground. If I had it to do over again I would go with Öhlins or Rally Raid suspension.
@@user-se7vt5ow4eI want the MT21’s on my L and may have finally found a dealer who can supply them here, fingers crossed.
I own a few bikes which I ride quite sedately but once I jump on my crf300l I feel 16 again and ride it like a hooligan which the bike seems to prefer. It feels happier and smoother in the higher rev range plus I find I get a pokier performance when using the better e5 fuel so comined with its lightness, I love it. Oh and with regards the suspension which everyone seems to hate well I love its plushness on the UK potholed roads so I think its pretty much faultless apart from the small fuel tank...just my two cents.
I’m exactly the same, feels like the bikes I started out on but with a bit more power. A Yamaha DT50 and Suzuki TS125. If this was around when I was 17 I’d have been over the moon.
I’ve got some parts arriving for it, hopefully this week but I’m leaving the suspension for now.
I’m amazed how bad the roads are in the uk when I come back to visit. Fuel is t an issue over here, there’s a petroleum station every 10-20km.
I was set on getting the rally but now I think you've changed my mind!
I think it all depends on what your riding priorities are and how much you want a ready to go solution vs doing a few upgrades.
@TripleB6036 I have an 1st Gen sv650s for the road, not the most comfortable for touring but it's a dream to ride. I was veering towards the rally because of the extra fuel capacity but as a new rider, I'm going to be dropping the bike, a lot! I could just strap a jerry can on with extra fuel and stick a wind deflector on. I also have a big van, so if i did want to travel around, I'd probably stick the bike in the van. I think I hadn't really considered weight at all until I watched your video. You made a lot of good points I hadn't thought of, much appreciated
@@CB19087yep or stick a rotapax on the back. Glad you found it helpful.
@TripleB6036 ye that's the one I meant 😁 thanks for giving me the real name for it 🤛
In Canada it the price difference is $900+tax extra for the Rally. These are the benefits of the Rally and what it would roughly cost, plus taxes, and possibly labour for those technically incompetent.
+ Aftermarket larger gas tank $400
+ Larger front break $200
+ LED headlights +$800
+ Windscreen $100
+ Comfortable seat $???
+ USB port $50
+ AUX front cable $50
+ Better paint coatings ???
+ Wind protection fairings/plastic engine guards ...the plastics are meant to be cracked to some degree. (and engine guards are typically worse if you get into an accident with them)
Negatives
- $900 more
- 30-33 pounds more (so drive with a 1/2 tank and consider trimming some plastics.
Your numbers are just a little off IMO, but who's counting. What are the prices of all the other parts in your area the Rally has that the 300L doesn't have?
Thanks for your detailed comment.
I think there are going to be variations in each market for pricing.
Also some of the benefits you include for the rally do t apply in all markets. Such as LED lights, which are included as standard on both the Rally and L model here. Also no USB port on the Rally here.
I also note the price of parts may have changed as I quickly checked the Acerbis fuel tank which has increased by about $50 US dollars since I made this video.
Always good to know how things stack up in different parts of the World.
I have family in Toronto, where are you in Canada?
Very helpful & very well thought out information really appreciated the useful information helped make up my mind great 👍🏻
Glad it helped.
Great video and comparison. I decided to go 300l. I don't plan on doing much traveling on it except to some trails. If I want to travel, get a windscreen and a rotopak, and good to go. The videos are quite good that you do. But when you do some traveling and exploring, maybe better quality to catch the beauty of where you are living. Be safe and take it easy.
Yeh I originally chose the L for the same reasons.
Noted re the videos. Locally I just don’t want to get the drone and proper cameras out but when I travel for sure I will.
Nice summary. I had a 2018 250 Rally and sold that, signed up to a new V-Strom 1050 that I still have (looks nice and well made but very heavy) but miss the little Honda and will probably get the 300l next.
Agreed about the 1050, I really liked mine. I only sold it as I left the UK but didn’t want to pick up another one here due to the weight. I did pick up the new VStrom 800 which feels much more manageable than the 1050 even though on paper it’s not worlds apart. Now jumping on the CRF300L like I did yesterday is a blast.
I haven’t tried the V-Strom800 but my love is singles or V-Twins hence the 1050 and I loved the retro looks of the bigger v-Strom more than the 650. Parallel twins like the 800 don’t quite ‘rock my boat’. Anyway I prefer off road given the choice & when on road my ADV350 scoot is actually better for touring than the big Suzuki in many respects (not top speed but certainly storage, comfort, ease of use and weather protection).
@@capitalsoftwoodltd7435I’m not usually a massive fan of parallel twins but the 800 is certainly a good one.
The retro looks worked for me on the 1050xt too. Which colour did you go for?
I used to be purely a road rider but Offroad is fast becoming my preference too. Thanks for commenting.
Dude, this channel is exactly what I'm looking for right now. I'm in the process of getting my license and my first bike. I want something to travel New Zealand's highways and (more importantly) our gravel roads. I don't want to go fast, I want to get to remote places on roads used by 4WDs also. The bottle neck for me as a learner is CC rating, can't go over 650cc for the first 2 years. So I'm looking at bikes like the 300L, 300 Rally, RE Himalayan 450, KTM 390 Adventure, etc. I'm leaning toward the Rally at this point, parts are cheap and easy to find, there are a lot of upgrades available, whereas something like the new Himalayan kind of seems like a hassle for aftermarket stuff and even parts. My concern is highway speeds getting to the off road sections I want to travel. How do those 300s handle highway speeds? Can they keep up with highway traffic on hills comfortably?
That’s great. Glad you found the video helpful. I’ve got a few vids on the Rally and L. You might find this one useful ruclips.net/video/XTYp0gHGUJ0/видео.htmlsi=qvoqxkuwEVGnC8H5
What are highway speeds in NZ, I haven’t been there since 2006 😁 ?
The Rally comfortably cruises at 90-110KPH which is about as fast as I’ll go on the roads over here due to conditions. It will go a little faster but doesn’t get there as quickly.
I’ll be doing more videos on both the L and Rally as soon as I’m back in the Philippines later this month.
Thanks for all you do and for your honest opinion.
I'm still undecided😢!
Its been a while since i was where you're at. I believe it was 1985 back when Subic Bay was open.
Monkey's and Bats come to mind,lol!
Thanks for your comment. Appreciate it.
I guess it depends on what type of riding you’re going to do.
Wow the place would look totally different to you now.
@TripleB6036 Oh yeah for sure. Just wondering 🤔, is it a safe place to vacation at? I'd love to go back and see how it's changed.
@@scottlocke3645yeh it’s safe with the usual provisos of not going in shady areas at night, be aware of your surroundings and don’t look like a victim.
Ive never had any problems here in 10 years as long as you’re respectful then people are very kind and friendly. Just be aware of girls who profess their love very quickly, claim to be a student but can’t afford to finish their studies or mention of sick relatives very early on in knowing them. They’re almost always scammers trying to get money. Basically never send money or give to anyone you don’t really know and you won’t be taken for a fool. But as a general tourist it’s safe and friendly .
@TripleB6036 Well that's certainly good to know!
And oh yeah I remember that part as well.
Sounds like that part hasn't changed much.
I'd like to go back to Grande Island that place was very interesting. Somewhere I have a picture of me behind the prison bars in one of the dugout cells.
Thanks for the info,be safe😊
Looks better than the Rallye too… msg you in a day or two! 👍🏻
I like em both looks wise. Good man. Looking forward to a ride.
Can you do a vid of it riding underwater, really deep, even for a short time, how long can it stay working? flash flood? underwater? threw river/ coss stream /survival/does it need modifications to do this/ what are its limitations?
I’m afraid the only water near me is the sea. 😂
what do you mean :P you HAVE TO CHANGE THE SUSPENSION TO EVEN RIDE THE THING xD atleast that's what all the reviews tell you :P love your vids m8
Haha, oh yeh, full suspension and revalving at least 👀
Thanks mate.
I used to have the CRF 250L in Thailand and did much the same style of exploring riding, only holding off going crazy due to lack of rider gear & emergency care compared to back in the UK. Did you have a go on the older 250? I'm wondering how much better the new 300 is?
Haha yeh, I’m definitely aware of the 2 hour trip to a half decent hospital here which makes me hold back a little when riding.
I had a 2019 250L. Never did a video on it. The 300 engine just tips it over that point of not feeling underpowered. The clutch is way lighter, the bike feels a little lighter too. The gearing is much better. It’s not worlds apart but all the little changes add up to make a difference. The 300L kicks out a lot more heat at slow speeds though. I’m hoping to sort that with the Yoshimura and ECU I’ve got coming.
One big difference for the weight is mostly going to be noticed if you ride American highways say 60% or more of the time. You'll
want that extra weight while riding at 70mph w/ all the traffic. ChronicleofSolid Channel did a pretty good split on these 2 bikes
and why he chose the "L" ..... lol, lighter, more agile, and on the single tracks after picking her up all day you'll want the lighter
bike. But I know nothing, looking at the Rally as a 1st bike... peace
Good point about the weight and also wind protection.
Until 2 weeks ago I had no idea the "Rally" was a version of the 300L..... lol, I kinda thought it was a key-word thing
that Riders called their bike at a certain point in the mod process >> > I was wrong but pleasantly surprised at the
stuff that came stock on her. FuelGear indicators on the display was one & the wind screen will do a lot more than
people think. Fuel capacity is pretty good & I've got 2-3 months until I'll have the money to buy her.... Good video
you've given us. peace
I chose the rally
How are you finding it?
According to the Honda web site the 300L weight in at 311lbs, but the CRF450L weight 289lbs!! Have you rode one of the CRF450Ls? Again, according to the web site, you get a bigger engine and less weight.
I’m not sure on the weights but quite likely . I haven’t rode one as it’s not available here. They’re a different class of bike with a significant different in price and maintenance schedule.
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Is there not also a difference in seat height ?
There is, the rally is slightly taller I believe but it squats so much in stock form the seat heights are almost irrelevant until you actually sit on them.
Do you have the ABS on the rally or 300l. Quality of video good enough.
Thanks. Both models I e got are non abs as it’s the only one available in the Philippines.
I sold my BMW M1000R Competition, time for a 300L.
Quite a change.
@TripleB6036 im actually going with the monkey. Put a deposit down today.
What made you go for the Monkey? Enjoy your new bike when it arrives.
@TripleB6036 i have always loved Honda Motorcycles, I've owned three. I moved to a rural property with trails for miles. It is a fun and economical choice for getting around.
@@UBERBENZ fair play. I was always tempted with the more ‘exotic’ brands when I was younger but now, I appreciate Hondas more and more.