Ian Bailey speaks to Neil on review of murder investigation of Sophie Toscan du Plantier | RedFM
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- This morning Neil Prendeville spoke Ian Bailey about him requesting a review into the Garda investigation of the murder of Sophie Toscan Du Plantier. He also talked about the upcoming documentaries and how he feared he may become homeless.
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He got a hard time from the media. I hope if there is a heaven he is there. An innocent for sure! Rip
To the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe the truth.
What a truthful and prevalent comment in this case 👏 Somebody tell that to the Garda.
The west cork pod cast is brilliant
Agree, finished it the other day. Never knew the story.. unreal
@Fiona ...... I agree. And that's from another Fiona, in Scotland. 🧡 😊 🧡
Where do you find it?
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What of the woman that lied about being with a man that night and then lied about who that man was and then recanted having seen Bailey at all? Could she not have been a suspect? Nothing of the murder details proves it was done by a man? I have just finished the series and this is what struck me the most. There is circumstantial evidence against Bailey but didnt that all start with the lie told about the bridge? When Bailey is told the town is talking he may have darkly said yeah right I did this and that...and buddy ran with that out of context...there are just not enough links in the chain to prove guilt.
Yes as far as I know ian only become a suspect due to her claiming she saw him on the bridge but she has now retracted that statement which definitely throws it all into limbo now
@L Peterson
That is what I don't get about people still claiming that Bailey did it. Had Marie Farrell never named Bailey then it is quite possible that he would never have been a suspect at all as there was literarily nothing connecting him to Sophie other than working in her neighbours garden at some time. He lives over 2 miles away as the crow flies so probably 4 or 5 miles by car, not exactly "local" either in terms of walking there and back at night over rough terrain.
@@zed351 indeed it was a good old walk for Ian to get to her house in the middle of the night, what time did his wife say he got out of bed do we know?
@@TomJones-nh3fx
From the DPP report:
"In her statement taken (10E) towards the end of her detention Jules Thomas states that
she went to bed at 1.30 a.m. on 23 December 1996.
She remembers Ian coming into the bedroom and getting into bed. She fell into a sleep
almost straight away having taken two tablets for period pain, these were painkillers.
She said that she was in a sleep and Ian was tossing and turning and he then got up
from bed approximately an hour later. He got up easy so as not to wake her even
though her recollection was poor she feels almost 100% sure that he did.
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She doesn't recall his absence during her further sleep.
She did not take any notice of him leaving the bed as it was common for him to do this.
She can't recall him coming back to bed.
It is clear from the file that it was a mundane act for Bailey to get out of bed in such
circumstances."
@@TomJones-nh3fx
Had he got up at around 2.30am he would have had to walk across rough terrain in the dark during December for at least 4 miles round trip minimum.
He would have been crossing fields, ditches and all sorts of unknown hazards without getting lost, making the return journey without being spotted during the coming daylight hours.
Or, he used the roads, 8 to 10 miles. Again with not one person spotting him.
I've found your interviews with Ian Bailey really informative and insightful. Thank you.
For what it's worth I think Bailey is innocent. He's certainly brash, egotistical and attention seeking, but the flaws in his character don't make him a murderer. I agree with the guy in the Netflix doc who says he's been convicted on his personality.
I feel its much more likely to have been a French hitman, someone connected to or indeed Marie Farrell, or even a total stranger sailing past the lighthouse who saw the lights on in the cottage and came ashore. As outlandish as these theories seem, they are no more far fetched than the case against Bailey.
A proven culprit of this crime is the Garda, whose bungled investigation and intimidation tactics have probably robbed Sophie's family of the chance to ever get real justice.
At this point you would side with the potential murderer just because of the absolute mess up of the whole investigation. Sick of the whole case now, either Ian is guilty or innocent, the mess falls at the guards and lack of investigation. #justiceforsophie
Ian is a narcissist that revels in the attention so it’s even harder to decide wether he did it or not, I agree though the investigation was fucked up from the start and all evidence is seemingly only circumstantial
He hasn't been cleared of charges, he's escaped a trial because of these multiple failures. He's pretty celebratory of it, always been.
@@margot9887
There were no charges, he was never charged due to lack of evidence.
@@zed351 he is a convicted murderer.
I'd be screaming give me a lie detector! This guy is way too intelligent to not be able to clear this up very early in the day. I strongly suspect him to be guilty. 95%
Lie detectors are complete bullshit and not accepted as evidence anywhere in the world except the US and even there it is mainly used as a ruse to inveigle confessions and plea bargains out of reluctant suspects.
Put her family on lie detectors that she went "to fix the heating".
@@docastrov9013 indeed a woman leaving France to go to the middle of buttfuck nowhere in west cork just before Christmas to fix a heater seems unlikely
He'll pass a lie detector; he's been through this for 25yrs, so all the fear and guilt have been conditioned out of him
@@lubumbashi6666 Actually, they aren't accepted in US courts either.
There is so much more questions that need answering like why was the person Marie Farrell with that night never revealed? Was he eliminated as a suspect? If he was just a friend why not eliminate him as well.Why was she never cautioned over telling numerous different versions of the story and why wasn't she compelled to let them know in the phone box that she saw a man in a beret watching Sophie near the shop? Also why did Sophie open the door to the person there was no blood in the house yet she ran down the drive? Why not lock the door and stay inside? Also why couldn't they establish what time she had died or had she eaten anything. Also it seems really suspicious about the wine glasses on the draining board and who entered the house after. Yes someone would of had to know the layout of the house and the location but in the depts of winter and with no lighting would the same person have known exactly where to go. If it was such a bloodied attack why wasn't there any dna evidence of the other person. Why did Sophie Lace up her boots and have her dressing gown on? Would she even have time to lace up her boots so fast if someone was at the door. Could someone have opened the window and already been in the house? Also why weren'tall the cars traced from Dublin and Cork seems very strange she came so close to Christmas with a return ticket on her own when her son was quite young. Was someone else following her? Also why didn't they ever find DNA on the door,brick and patterns in the dirt or tire tracks? Were there really Doc Martin prints found? Can't they use any touch DNA now?It seems the killer must of known that no one would be around to investigate this straight away before Christmas. Also why did the gate go missing? They recently came out to say they asked her son to take it back but he didn't want it very strange almost twenty years later. Also did Ian sway the investigation by reporting on it days later? Who knew what at each time? Also did someone really report that he had taken pictures of the body? Other than the fact that he was reported seen near the scene and that he had got up to write there's no evidence he was there unless he got very lucky. Why would he spend all his life fighting it in the courts? None of it makes sense. Also there was reports of someone breaking into her house before she came over were they even true. I think the police know alot more than they are letting on. Why wasn't it mentioned in both documentaries about the taping of the guard stations and the bantry tapes and the missing notes from the jobs book?
Perhaps she had a nice neighbour lady in for a glass of wine...said neighbour lady makes a pass and is rejected as an example...the argument goes outside as she leaves in a huff of anger because she expected her advances to be reciprocated...afraid that her secret will get out (she is after all a married woman) she grabs a rock and just goes to town...not an unheard of set of circumstances...just saying my thoughts out loud.
Aren't there experts that can judge if a person is lying? Has someone examined his contributions to the podcast and documentaries and analysed his behaviour? Interesting to see the results of that.
The Behaviour Panel are amazing. Have you heard of them? I'm going to ask them to do an analysis. They have a RUclips channel
Peter Hyatt is also fantastic. Would love him to get his hands on this one.
Body language is a crock of sh1te
The behaviour panel have a video premiering later today on Bailey
@@padraig9445 thank you!
Whats strange about this hole case is! Everything, its hard to fully believed if Ian Bailey is innocent or not many things he said or done were weird and made fingers point in his direction but there's other aspects that make it a strange case one being the "witness" marie farrel who claims she seen a man fitting ians size and stature in a field at 3 am I've travelled that exact road at 10.15 pm one night in 2019 and for the life of me I could not see my hand in front of my face id say in 1996 less houses in the area it would have being darker, the same witness made initial false phone calls to what I believe where to immediately point the finger of blame elsewhere as quick as possible i believe she needs to be looked into more so, she's changed her statement so many times its baffling shes not charged with preventing the course of justice another issue that stands out with this case is I believe if Ian Bailey was the killer I think a man of his height and stature would have killed by stangleastion or something similar simply to his power and height it wud be a natural action over a small woman, the fact not many are mentioning the fact that sofie was divorcing a powerful man in France which she stood to gain financially and also her then lover who had a history of aggressive violence towards women and here's a woman beating with a rock which takes a violent individual, Ian Bailey was the local outsider weirdo finger of blame would generally point to the oddball, burning his clothes didn't help his cause but as a man who lives and always has in rural remote ireland having a fire in your yard was not an unusual act to be fair but again its a strange case and very interesting, I always believe Marie farrell is a fabricationist she would never give up the so called man she was out with at 3 in the morning simply because there was no man and she wasn't out at 3 am on the road if she was genuine she would off the record at least give the name so that individual could confirm that yes they where out at that time but she could never give a name because there was no such instance, if she was genuine she would want to appear as truthfully and creditable as possible and have her events and movements validated, strange case interesting
The moon could have been bright that night or less cloud cover. Also have a light source nearby would lead to seeing poorly away out of the light source area. That’s why people go stargazing away from artificial light!. So you probably would see more back then.
@@eoinf2773 Ian lied and said he slept that whole night but then he changed his story and said he couldn't sleep and went to his studio to write; if he couldn't sleep, he could be walking the roads; even if he didn't kill her, he could never admit to walking the roads as that obviously would make him look more guilty
@@JohnnytNatural
Walking the roads? Look at a map, it is 2 miles in a straight line, possibly 4 or 5 miles following roads. Then another 4 or 5 miles walking back.
All this done in pitch dark over rough terrain? Yeah sure, him making a round trip of 8-10 MILES on foot sure makes sense!
@@zed351 You do know he drove home from drinking at a pub at 12AM and commented to Jules that "something bad is going to happen tonight" while looking at Sophie's lights. Umm, yes, he has a car he drives around. And yes, you can walk the roads after driving a car to a certain destination.
@@JohnnytNatural
Wow you are REALLY stretching now, there was nothing to suggest he used a car.
The Jails of the world are holding innocent people who committed no crime and some guilty murderers are walking free amongst us .
How does the Garda lose an entire fence with DNA On it?
they didn't lose a fence it was a gate and it wasn't lost the DNA was taken off it and then it was offered back to the family but it was not wanted .
@@opencurtin There was DNA found on her and its not Ian Bailey.
He’s crying for sympathy, that’s a sign of a killer only caring about themselves, also when he denies he had anything to do with the crime he doesn’t say it in a convincing way. He got convicted for beating up he’s wife when he was drunk so maybe he got drunk with Sophie and killed her? He burnt he’s clothes the morning after her murder, he went around telling people that he killed her like seriously so guilty.
"also when he denies he had anything to do with the crime he doesn’t say it in a convincing way."
Wow you have just cracked the case. He must have done it then!
smh....
What woman who lives in a remote home wod open her door in the middle of the night to a man? Unless she new him or was it a woman ( maybe in distress hope this beautiful woman gets justice 🙏🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
Sophie knew Ian Bailey.
@@margot9887
Sophie's friend made that claim YEARS later.
Had a good education but as a man couldn't live up to it. He had it all but lost it. Went to Ireland working in jobs overqualified for. He was only ever Jules Thomas 's tennant. Intelligent but no common sense. He doesn't like to be told anything either. He liked Ireland and fought so hard to belong he ended up becoming involved in this nightmare. After leaving the UK and journalism he then wanted to get back into it and look what happened. There was no place for him in Ireland. He should have returned home before any of this was allowed to happen. He is no poet. Did they know each other? Who can say? 1996 the world was modern.but I think he and M du Plantier looked at Ireland through rose coloured spectacles. Too much poetry and romance and not realising the world just wasn't like that.
Nick Foster has recently written a book about Ian Bailey and he recalled one interview with Bailey in particular.
He said: “One thing that I do remember was I turned up in Schull in 2015, I sit down at the pine dining table in his cottage and my first question pretty much was ‘Do you miss writing?’
“I meant that in a general sense, but Ian Bailey took it to mean ‘Do you miss writing about the case?’ - because as you’ll remember back in the day he was a journalist who wrote about the case.
“And he said ‘Well no, because now I can play the journalists like puppets on strings’.
I thought ‘What a strange thing to say’... and that was within 15 minutes at the most of arriving at his cottage for the first time”.
During this interview with Neil Prendeville, Bailey seems to deliberately go out of his way to over-compensate for saying to Foster that he did not miss writing about the case- but, in a way that is illustrative in the general sense of things- referring to his career in journalism.
He keeps reiterating here during this interview that the case robbed him of his entire career in journalism. I suspect that this is in response to Fosters’ comments about him.
Guilty or innocent, It just goes to show that the man is highly manipulative.
Another thing, why was he “really shocked” about the new finding that male DNA was found on her boot? An innocent man with nothing to hide would not be “really shocked!”
Sophie’s best friend , who stayed with her once at Toormore, said she spoke to her ‘by phone every day’ and that in early December 1996 she had complained about a ‘weird man’ who lived close to her in Cork and wanted to recite verses of his poetry to her.
‘She was suspicious of him and she did not want to see him,’ Agnes Thomas told the second day of Bailey’s trial in France.
Here’s a link to him peddling his poetry:
ruclips.net/video/pmuBB72IRjQ/видео.html
His movements on the night of December 22 aroused yet more suspicion. At around 4am, it emerged, he had got up, leaving his partner in bed. His explanation? That he couldn’t sleep and went to his desk, in the garden shed, to finish a complicated article he was working on.
How many writers can concentrate and pen articles at night after a heavy night on the whiskey?
He actually denied getting up in the middle of the night at first, and this demonstrates the man’s capacity to exaggerate and to warp the truth.
And we all know the beatings he subjected his partner to. He also tried it on with his partners daughter when she turned 18.
Finally, what’s with all the confessions? (Interestingly - after alcohol) Shouldn’t an accomplished poet and writer know all about the substantiveness of the English language and the weight that it carries?!!!
To be fair why would he ask for a reopening of the case. Lip service maybe. But theres no hard evidence for him killing sophie.... I personally think any man that beats a woman is scum and ive been out of my mind drunk and never been violent with anyone ever when drunk. But no matter what you think of him and he is a very strange man... being an arrogant prick doesn't make you a murderer. The witness Marie who said she saw him that night of the murder - didn't actually.
Anyway if they were gonna pin the murder on someone without forensic evidence pin it on Marie - I think she's one of the most annoying fucking people I've ever had the displeasure of listening to. Pure ape of a woman.
Some excellent points - and thanks for the link to Bailey's poetry! Allow me to add a couple of things that might interest you:
Five of the six people who witnessed Bailey's confessions were English - or of English origin. They were his acquaintances, his workmates, his drinking buddies.They damn well knew what English sarcasm sounds like. And they all insisted that Bailey was NOT being sarcastic or making a sick joke. They insisted he was being serious - that those were serious admissions. During one of these confessions, Bailey was crying. Those witnesses came forward voluntarily to tell the Guards because they were convinced they had heard real confessions - not that they had heard bad jokes.
Here's another point that everyone should consider if they're struggling to work out if Bailey is being truthful or not. Unlike some of the messy stuff that happened later, there is no doubt whatsoever about this one. It's very simple, very black-and-white, and the facts can't be questioned. And all you have to do is use your common sense, your experience of life, your understanding of reality to get this.
Only two days - I repeat - only two days after Sophie's murder, Bailey was asked to fill in a form stating where he had spent the evening in the hours leading up to the murder. Everyone in the area had to fill in the same form. IMPORTANT: Bailey had no reason whatsoever to think that he might be under suspicion (unless he had his own private reasons for believing so). The Garda investigation had barely begun. So no pressure, no coercion, no bullying, no Guards breathing down on him, nothing. Just a standard form to fill in about where he was that evening. Everyone was filling in the same form. Absolutely no reason to lie.
So what did Bailey write down? He wrote down that he spent the entire evening all by himself in a pub called The Courtyard in Schull.
Whoops! That's not where he spent the evening. He spent the evening in another pub in Schull, called The Galley Inn. A couple of weeks later, Bailey went back to the Guards to say he had got all mixed up - and he corrected his story.
Now you might be saying, "Sure, one pub is like any other pub. Easy to get mixed up. Two days had gone by, he just confused the two pubs - anyone could make that mistake, right?"
Well, those two pubs don't exist any more. But I am from the area and I used to go to them all the time. Let me explain the difference to you so you'll know exactly what local people know.
The Courtyard (where Bailey claimed he spent the evening by himself): a tiny, tiny little pub. Room for about a dozen people - more than that and it was crowded. A cosy little place with a fireplace; it was a nice pub to spend a quiet evening by the fire.
The Galley Inn (where Bailey really was): a huge pub whose premises stretched far back off the street. Bright, loud, lively - room for about a 100 people. Usually packed with all kinds of people, young and old. This is where Bailey spent the hours leading up to the murder - and he wasn't alone, as he previously claimed. He was with his partner, Jules Thomas. And there was plenty of entertainment that night: music and poetry, both supplied by...... (surprise!) Bailey himself. He was playing the bodhrán with the session musicians and took the opportunity to regale the audience with his own poetry. He was served drinks five times, had conversations with several people and was the life and soul of the party - as was his habit.
So, if we are to believe Bailey, we must believe that in the space of two days his memory of having a whopping big evening at the Galley Inn, where he was the star of the show....disappeared completely from his brain. And that instead of that memory, a false memory appeared in its place - in which he spent the entire evening all by himself in a quiet little pub for old people. And that this remarkable memory transmogrification happened in just two days. But then in the following two weeks his memory returned to him - and he finally remembered the uproarious evening he had really had at the Galley Inn.
Well, I'll leave it to you to decide if you find Bailey's explanation convincing. But whatever you decide, I would advise everyone to use this incident - the curious incident of the disappearing-reappearing memory - as a yardstick by which to judge everything Bailey says.
@@lukemurphy6244 also to add to midwinter, Marie withdrawing her statement (and expecting to make financial gain from doing so) is not the same as saying it didn't happen. She made statements anonymously, which rules out being coached by guards, and just happened to finger a man with a history of violence and a lot of circumstantial evidence against him, a man who had a habit of confessing while drunk.
Anyway I do think we can agree on the character that both these people have displayed.
You do realise the her friend who recalled Sophie mentioning Bailey only remembered it after 20+ years, ya?? Likely story.
Also, the DPP were happy to accept Bailey’s explanation of the so-called ‘confessions’ as gallows humour/sarcasm.
You’re barking up the wrong tree.
The garda in charge Noel Smith I believe did it! He knew sophie thru alfie lyons and the cannabis scandal he was in the area that night and told marie farrell to put ian there that was Damning !!
can anyone confirm his claim that someone else's DNA was found at the scene?
There was one piece of unidentified DNA found on her boot. There is also a reference in the forensic report to some fingerprints in the house which were never identified.
One would hope that this evidence was kept somewhere so it could be tested against a suspect but on form I would not be surprised if it were lost at this stage.
Would kind of explain why evidence went “missing” if that’s the case, the police had their hearts set on it being Ian so if it they found evidence that it wasn’t him they got rid of it
🤔There will other DNA there, as other people visited, and used this location on a regular basis 🤪dohhhhh
@@brendanpowell9369
Yes and the correct process would have been to identify those people and get their DNA and fingerprints, clearly this was not done as they wanted to pin it on Bailey.
@@zed351 Where is your evidence ?
Why did his wife never make a statement.
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She did but her statement would have been thrown out due to the arse up the gardai made of it.
Partner*, she never married Bailey and recently split with him. She made several. She made a statement voluntarily as did everyone in the area. She was also arrested twice as well. She has always maintained his innocence, as have her daughters who don't like Bailey. One of her daughters was arrested and questioned. Two gardai are on tape discussing whether to tamper with her original statement by removing the opinion of the interviewing garda.
Here is a quote from the Bandon Tapes:
"But you see there are statements here that I have to go back to fill it in. I have to talk to them, one man put in here: 'I believe she was attempting to tell me the truth and trying to recall', you know, yer man interviewing her like, when the evidence clearly shows and everything we were doing that she is anything but, she has been out there working, conniving, twisting."
"That is not fucking evidence," said the chief superintendent.
"I know but it's in the statement, it has to be taken fucking out of it."
So you see here the Gardai are quite comfortable discussing "filling in" of witness statements and taking stuff out that they don't want. Needless to say they did not know they were being recorded.
Ian loves the spotlight, he should do a reaction to both docs with his own commentary
He has.. Just read all "Jack Burton" replies.. 99% certain it's him.
@@MrEnginemount
typical knob-jockey cant win an argument and comes out with b0ll0cks
@@fredbloggs545 Haha.. see you have 2 accounts Jack..(Ian)
@@MrEnginemount
what you on about you div
@@MrEnginemount I am Ian Bailey & I have 3 accounts. Jack Burton, Fred Bloggs & Adam Hardcourt.
Ian's alot of things but if you do your own research and particularly follow the sky doc as appose to the the netflix, i don't think he's the killer . For example in the netflix doc they said they couldnt find the long coat, in the sky and online there is police reports that they took the coat and checked it
I didn't know about this case until Netflix. It pushed hard that Bailey did it and I thought so too.
I then read that Marie Farrell now claimed it was a French man she saw. This pricked my interest, so I watched the Sky documentary and heard the West Cork podcast. I was left annoyed at Netflix with their biased hatched job. I now believe him to be innocent.
@@zed351 you believe yourself to be innocent Ian? How do you only know the case from Netflix when you were the one who caved the poor woman's skull in for not liking your sorry excuse for poetry? You've commented more than 500 times on videos related to this case, either you're Ian Bailey or you're a very sad person, just go and do your time in France. Lucky for you they don't use the guillotine anymore
@@pepesilvia1924
Yawn
@@zed351 Ian, no point denying it now I know it's you, if you're actually innocent I feel very sorry for the public shaming you've had to go through, but if you're guilty why didn't you just do your time and go live in another remote community somewhere? Congratulations on getting your poetry published
@@pepesilvia1924
Ian Bailey uses his real name, you can literally go and talk to him on Twitter you spaz.
Were you not publicly in trouble so having empathy?
Cork is one fucked up place though! a brother murdering his two brothers and himself, a father murdering his own sun then him and his other son killing eachother and this murder, i wouldn't even visit Cork with life insurance!
Marie Farrell is a fool, Im suspecting her at this stage. However why was ian burning a mattress, and girl that was staying with them saw his coat drenched in water etc?. Also as it turns out he did know Sophie according to French sources and why admit to a 14 year old that he did it. None of them saw it as 'black humour' as he made out! Also Bailey had a history of violence and beat Jules to a pulp a few mths before. Sophie was beautiful and attracted attention. Still how did guards lose gate? This is just really weird!
"I had nothing to do with it" x about 20... why can't he just say he didn't do it?
Ffs he is saying his truth.. who cares how he says it. The man is innocent
@@supernova101010 Who did it then?
@@robicenco1 there are many other possibilities that weren't look at by the joke gardai. They only focused on bailey.
@@supernova101010 OK thanks. I know that police very often become fixated with pinning a crime on one indivdual, rather than on actually working out what happened. Perhaps that happened in this case - it certainly looks like some policemen, including Mr O'Dwyer, can be accused of doing it. The trouble is that it does seem to many people (myself included) that he may be right.
But I keep an open mind. The issue I have is that this crime was committed in a very small, very remote rural community where not many people live (I come from one of these too, in England). If someone other than Bailey did it, wouldn't everyone in west Cork and beyond have known about it, probably from day 2 or 3 after the murder? Wouldn't that person's name be one of the best known in Ireland? I know that the answer to these questions isn't automatically "yes", but it feels like there'd be something out there by now if it was someone else who did it.
@@robicenco1 the locals do know about a crazy cop, he had a bad name in the area, harrasing people etc. It is said that sophie knew him as she had reported drug dealing in the area and I think Alfie was busted growing weed too. A guy outside marie Farrels shop wearing a beret watching sophie. A German acquaintance/ lover of sophie who lived close by committed suicide 2 months after Sophie's death... amongst other possibilities. The cold case needs to look at all of these things
the autopsy people need to look at it again understanding that the block was there to keep the gate open and she may have taken a nasty fall while opening or closing the gate. Her injuries which are constantly misreported by the press have in fact been known to occur with taking a bad fall. They went into it assuming it was murder. It wasn't it was an accident. Talk is made of multiple blows in fact they were unable to determine how many blows and one blow can cause multiple fracture lines. They need to be prepared to admit mistakes after all an innocent man has had his life ruined.
Innocent my arse.
And after she fell, she managed to get up, smash her own face into an unrecognisable mess and hang herself up on the briar?
@@drnope3289 she may have been confused and disoriented after falling and got caught up in the briars. Her face would have been a mess if it collided with a concrete block.
Shocking the way he's been treated. If they have no evidence then he should be left alone. A person should tried in court, not by a public witch hunt.
Ha! Nice try, Ian. If there really is no evidence in the Garda file, then you'll have no problem releasing it to the public, right? Instead of jealously hoarding it all these years, you'll finally let the truth sing from the rooftops, right? So, what are you waiting for, Ian? Let everybody see the "no evidence" in the 670 separate pieces of evidence in the file. You'll release it first thing tomorrow, yes? Great, I look forward to it!
He has been tried in France. He also has faced a jury here that didn't go well for him. I know someone from a jury of his peers here who got to see stuff we haven't. He has no doubt of his guilt. But the guards made errors and harbison made a bollix of the pathology. Whether he did it or not its right not to convict without cast iron proof sadly for Sophie. My guess is the guards are waiting for Jules. If it's not forcomming just try him, roll the dice f**k it, if he walks he walks. I mean he is walking now anyway
@@Midwinter2 listening to him being interviewed and reading about the case he is saying a lot of people are lying. I have heard him mention "its just he said she said ".... there is an awful lot of she said but only one he said. The DPP looked at each piece of evidence in isolation and said it is weak but there is so much of it it can't be regarded in isolation. Circumstantial evidence is good evidence (DNA can be Circumstantial)
The fact that his DNA wasn't found does not prove him innocent, nobody's DNA was found but somebody committed the crime. Truly sad for Sophie and family
@@Midwinter2 - you do realise that the DPP’s office refused twice to send the case to trial because they said it would collapse in no time due to lack of evidence, yes??
@@daithipol - French law is completely different - they were allowed to use statements that would not be allowed here (including Marie Farrell’s lies). Also, he NEVER faced a trial here, you’re talking utter rubbish.
'Anything that would take the focus away from me has been ignored.' Narcissistic killer.
He would have continued being a journalist and writing stories in a small town where nothing ever happened. He made a storyhappen. He has been milking the attention for over 20 years. If he'd confessed and done the time, he'd be out again by now and people would have forgotten about him. As it is, his long term partner has finally chucked him out after 'suffering her own torture" and nobody in the locality wants to sort him out with lodgings.
When he talks about the crime he had 'nothing to do with' he always refers to a body rather than using Sophie's name. Everything he says just points to a man in a practical pickle rather than a man whose life has been undeservedly ruined by a false accusation.
I know people who live in his locality and he apparently revels in his notoriety- hence he never moved away. The whole town knows he did it.
"The whole town knows he did it."
Nope, the "whole town" actually believe it was a Guard and Bailey was framed.
@@zed351 Is that why he can't get any accomodation now his long term partner has finally kicked him out? My dad lives over there and works on the same market.
He wasn't framed at all. You might be interested in watching a few more documentaries about it all. Yes, the Guarda naffed up the whole thing- they're just not geared up for dealing with murders, especially not during Christmas.
@@drnope3289
I didn't say he was framed, I was correcting your preconceived idea what the "whole town" thought.
Of course he can't get accommodation for the same reason other people can't. It is simply difficult.
@@zed351 Wotevs Jack Burton.
Our opinions on this differ obviously.
I know what I think.
@@drnope3289
Yes you put it in your comment and it is nonsense.
What is Marie Farell and Bailey had been together. Marie perhaps killed Sophie?! After all Marie would not name the man she with, could have been jealous that Bailey liked Sophie and murdered her.
Good point always found it strange how they comvienantly overlooked the person with her in the car that night and yet she made up the name Fiona when reporting seeing someone that night in the phone box but didn't report the man with the beret till later. Could it have been a guard? Or someone in Authority. Also why did Marie Farrell in the Jim Sheridan documentary not know that the road near the kealfada bridge was the start ofthe turnoff to the road to Sophie's house?
@@olearymiriam Ya def dodge, she should so be arrested, especially for lying in court and in statements. Total nutter.
Tend to think he was a convenient person to lay the blame on
@T Y Cobb where's the forensic evidence linking him to the scene? None it's all circumstantial
@@sandhurstwolves3956 Go back to sleep.....
@@jamesgerardbutler9804 👍
James Gerard Butler your such a prick, I hope your never on a jury. Your the kinda man that says the police have never been corrupt just like that prosecutor Dwyer.
@@bytheivy strange one ; he was under enormous stress had an alcohol problem and v paranoid ? Some may be his dark humour some to get attention from people whatever he comes across his own worst enemy at times but still don't think he's guilty
Ian Bailey is an innocent man. The Gardai failed Sophie's family with their catastrophic handling of this case. They've destroyed an innocent man whilst the real criminal walks free. Disgusting.
I don't think he's an innocent man, but there just isn't enough evidence to convict him of murder under the legal system of Ireland. French law allows hearsay for conviction, which was the basis of their conviction of Bailey.
Ian is charming and flamboyant, a proven liar from his changing of alibis, has a history of domestic abuse against his partner and was at the bare minimum aware of Sophie living next door to a property he worked on (not to even mention his unusual behavior immediately after the crime and subsequent behaviour following Gardai investigation), so he is justifiably the primary suspect, but he should never be extradited on the basis of lack of scene evidence or proven eyewitness accounts.
@@mrsnrub2952 I fully accept those points mate. He's a strange character indeed but looking I can't see past the fact that the gardai just decided he was their man. They forced false statements implicating Bailey. Marie Farrell later withdraws her statement then swearing that it wasn't Bailey outside the shop or down at Kealfadda Bridge washing his boots (literally the only "evidence" the garda had). They tried to build their case around Bailey and tried to force him into the picture. Whether he seems like he could be a killer or not doesn't really matter. And its not that there wasn't enough evidence to convict him of murder, there was absolutely none.
@@TheSlashfan85 Not arguing with you that their handling was catastrophic but it's possible for the guards to be corrupt, incompetent and still have the right suspect.
@@lubumbashi6666 You're absolutely right mate. But there's not a single shred of evidence linking Bailey to the murder. A man in a black jacket spotted near the scene of the crime and a very poorly described chance meeting with Sophie Toscan Du Plantier is all they ever had. I think they messed up hugely with the crime scene and didn't do enough to gather any evidence or dna. Bailey didn't help himself a lot of the times but I think the garda were extremely lazy and just picked him out and tried to implicate him as best they could.
@@lubumbashi6666
However, had Marie Farrell not pointed the finger at the wrong man, would Bailey have even been a suspect at all?
I hear there's suitable accommodation for him in Portlaoise and Castlerea
What career? There was no career at the time of the murder other than writing bad poetry and odd gardening jobs. I'd like to know the identity of the tall man in Sophie's hire car who handed Sean Murray the $.
He was a journalist. His colleagues said a good one. It's why he was contacted as he was the closest journalist.
@@zed351 You sure you're not related Jack? LOL
@@MrEnginemount
stupid comment
@@zed351 he stated that he was interested in investigative journalism. Why, as a ‘good journalist’, could he not produce a believable narrative? Or crack open the case? He couldn’t provide sources to his claims about men visiting Sophie in articles that he wrote. Go listen to how he talks about the domestic violence instances with Jules; he doesn’t want to talk about it because ‘it’s long ago’, he shifts blame to the victim by him saying it ‘takes two’ and saying that she was drunk and started it, he takes no responsibility.
@@christinegouws5204
So?
That poor man has been bullied for 25 years, which is despicable! Whoever is responsible in Garda, should pay the price. Granted, he is not the most pleasant of men - he drank, he had drunken fights with his partner, he wrote dark songs, but NONE of it is the proof that he is a murderer! God help us all if this is how "justice" done.
He’s told multiple people he did it
@@michaeloconnell5850 context though? That’s just he said she said… He could have been sarcastic or joked about it, he is certainly an odd character, the drunken fights with his ex certainly don’t help build a picture of a good man … but can’t see how he would actually confess to the locals…. That defies all reason not just logic.
@@Dalabombana sure, except all the people he told never thought he was joking they know the context they were there and they swore under oath that he admitted it. Different people at different times and locations. You say fights with his partner in truth he beat her so badly her eye was swollen like a grapefruit she had clumps of hair missing and needed eight stitches for her torn lip.
@@michaeloconnell5850 I agree that he shouldn’t get away with that behaviour. As a woman no arguments there. It’s appalling.
It still, no matter how horrible he is, doesn’t make him a murderer. I think sadly, without the necessary forensics, added to the sloppy police work at the beginning, we may never truly know.
We all want justice for Sophie and her family, I can’t even begin to imagine what they have been through…. but, it has to be done fairly, otherwise it’s not justice to Sophie.
It’s important to stay true to innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt, otherwise it’s another small community witch hunt, and we have all seen how badly those can play out.
@@michaeloconnell5850 The informal confessions don't stand up all that well. You have the phone call with Helen Callanan and first off its a phone call where context is hard to read and secondly it was in the context where Bailey was trying to find out who was slandering. Then you have Malachy Reed, who was a child at the time and according to his mother's statement he wasn't bothered after the lift home with Bailey. It was only the following day, after a garda came to his school and talked to him that he was concerned and told his mother. Then you have Richie and Rose Shelley who again didn't come forward until 11 months after their night of heavy drinking with Bailey. Richie seems to have been poking around looking for evidence at the time when Bailey said "I did it, I did it" but didn't say more.
It's just not useful evidence.
If you watch the new Sky crime documentary series, its pretty clear that he did it. He's a deluded psychopath. He's completely dangerous and could kill again. I would be afraid living in West Cork
But in 25 years hasn't.
What was it that convinced you, Ana?
@@lubumbashi6666 Many things:: his history of violence towards women, visciously beating his wife so she had to go to HOSPITAL 6 months before the murder, him leaving his house the night of the murder and having no alibi, the poems he wrote after the murder saying how he murdered her, the scratches on his hands noticed by many people including gardaí, his confessions towards many neighbours where he was crying, being spotted my Marie Farell close to the house that night, that he contacted Sophie in France a few weeks before even tho he said he didn't know her at all, the bonfire in the back of his studio house on the 26th December. And much more. Unfortunately there was just no physical evidence, such as DNA and thats what the Irish system requires for a person to be charged.
@@anak5271 Thank u for that. Those are all the details known for years and much of that can be argued away, or would not hold up under scrutiny of a barrister, especially the testimony about scratches because three witness said he had scratches on 22nd December, before the murder.
I am not saying you are wrong but since you watched the documentary series I was wondering there was anything that that you noticed in particular that really stood out? It sounds to me it was the pictures of Jules that convinced you.
@@lubumbashi6666 The big thing actually was the poetry he wrote after her death, talking about "I destroyed you and in doing so I destroyed me" etc. But yes, like the fact he beat his PARTNER so badly around the FACE that she had to go to hospital is a MASSIVE red flag. It means he is capable of extreme violence and beatings while drunk and enraged
the thing is, i have been a victim of a malicious false allegation and was arrested due to the false allegation against me, but i was angry during the interrogation. I was royally pissed off and i simply refused to even have a lawyer. And sure enough, the CCTV footage revealed i was innocent of any crime and i was released without charge. Point is, when an innocent man is arrested they will not go quietly, he may start off calm due to the shock of being arrested, but it is simply impossible for any innocent person to continually remain calm after arrest. Your body, mind and soul will simply not allow you to go down for a crime you did not commit and you will express anger.
If Bailey is innocent why the quiet, calm and controlled demeanour? In my opinion, innocent people become frantic and lose their shit!
@J P
"most people"? Do they? How do you know? Are you an expert on the phycology of people wrongly accused or is that just a baseless assumption?
@@zed351 no given my experience I have greater insight and knowledge about how wrongly/falsely accused people react.
@@You_Tube000
No you don't. Your experience is *YOUR* experience. It is not how *OTHERS* may react and to suggest otherwise is armchair psychobabble nonsense.
@@zed351 I suggest you quit projecting. You are clueless about such things so please stop embarassing yourself. Since my experience i have studied extensively and interviewed hundreds of falsely accused people. Speak to any police force in the world and the results are the same: the majority of innocent people arrested will exhibit anger and frustration during interviews because that is the human condition. Granted, some may be timid and scared but even those individuals will soon errupt shouting from the hills to declare their innocence.
@@You_Tube000
Yeah of course you have. Liar.
I believe Bailey was totally innocent and was used as a scapegoat
I don't think Ian Bailey killed Sophie but he very well may know who did. He may well have scratches from a fight with a woman but it might have been a woman he knew well. A woman close to Ian Bailey might have been driven by jealous rage to confront a perceived rival, Bailey may have fuelled the jealousy and therefore feels a little to blame, perhaps enough to try and manipulate the investigation away from the perpetrator. There may have been a confrontation that night between the two women. It would explain why Sophie left the house wearing just night clothes and boots if she thought she was speaking with another woman. It would also explain how he knew for certain that she had not been sexually assaulted too. Just my theory. I hope you find out the truth one day soon.
I thought that as well. Strange that they did not look at any other motives - in fact, the word 'motive' was not even mentioned. A jealous woman (Jules is a possibility), a husband who paid someone to get rid of Sophie to escape custody and money battles... Not mentioning the fact that he almost immediately married someone much, much younger.
Is it true fairies still live in Southern Ireland?
@@MrEnginemount no only up north. Most of them moved to the Uk.
If he had been jailed when he should have been 25 years ago .....he'd be out of prison now
He is has never been charged with the murder, what are you on about?
Wouldn't do Prendiville any harm to research his "guests" beforehand. Might avoid him being made a clown of by them.
How was he made a clown?
The Garda made a complete hash of this case which is an awful shame but there is something off with this guy, granted not evidence but he’s pure suspect..too many points in the podcast that were questionable on his behalf.
Evidence going missing including the big metal gate is a red flag to me, I mean how does that happen?
He's just escaped a trial.
@@margot9887 guys totally agree...
@@margot9887
You need evidence for a trial, unlike in France with its kangaroo court system convicting people based on gossip.
Looking for accommodation ..... eh no thanks!
There is absolutely no other suspect and this guy has too many strings hanging off him. If it looks like a duck, if it walks like a duck and it sounds like a duck. It is a duck.
See I would agree with you however the investigation was fudged from the start, evidence seemingly went missing including the massive gate with blood on( how does that happen?) and I’ve read that there potentially was other suspects but it was just never investigated, nothing solid connects ian to the murder and all evidence is seemingly circumstantial
@Edd explain please, what mother in law?
William McNamara
There were *50* suspects. Yet in just two weeks the Gardai had reduced it from 50 to 1, how is that even possible?
The Gardai, under huge pressure to find someone have no physical evidence and no motive, so they pick their favorite suspect and hang strings off him, enough to convince lazy Netflix viewers anyway. Job done.
@@lubumbashi6666
Fortunately the Irish DPP were not stupid!
Interviewer is sympathetic to Ian... Who should go to France and stand trial for a crime he allegedly had nothing to do with!! There is so much evidence to show that he did it. Luckily the Irish bungled the investigation. Now he is whinging about being tortured! What comes around goes around. I hope he lives a long and wretched life.
"There is so much evidence to show that he did it."
No there wasn't. Read the DPP report and educate yourself.
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The big red flags for me (along with his history of domestic violence) are:
1. Actually stopping and gazing at Sophie's house (when she quite possibly had her bedroom light on) at midnight on the way home;
2. Getting up in the middle of the night and allegedly walking to his 'studio';
3. The scratches on his arms and mark on his face.
He did it.
1. I'd do that.
2. Jules said he often got up to work.
3. Witnesses state the scratches were there before the murder.
Is that all you've got? You should work for the Gardai.
@@zed351 Ian, is that you?!
@@jackfrost3360
Yawn
@@jackfrost3360
stupid commnet
I am Ian, Fred
& Adam Hardcourt.
Has Ian arrived yet on his Jack Burton burner account?
Stop being a knob-jockey, Ian Bailey is on Twitter, you can literally talk to him there. He uses his *REAL NAME* you spaz!
LOL Pepe Le Pew got burnt!
Seems logical. Methinks Jack protests too much.
@@MrEnginemount
Ian Bailey would use his real name like on Twitter.
@@MrEnginemount
mate whats logical is that ian would use his real name like twitter
Hopefully the truth will come out before the psychopathic killer departs this earth. I would be of the suspicion a certain person so integral to this grotesque story is 99.99% guilty.
The killer may already be dead, the two men who committed suicide soon after. The German guy lived 1 mile from Sophie and was a violent drunk who beat his partner, he stated to a friend that he had done something terrible before his death. Pity the incompetent Gardai didn't investigate these two properly, instead they put all their resources into going after Bailey and not the other 49 suspects they had. They had reduces the number of suspects from 50 to 1 in only 2 weeks.
As for other suspects, it has now been revealed that the person stood outside Marie Farrells shop wearing a beret is alleged to be a Frenchman known to Sophie's ex-husband. Gardai are investigating this latest claim.
You may wish to stop jumping to conclusions.
@@zed351 I will jump to whatever conclusions i see fit. Lets hope it is solved one way or the other.
@@dublinsfaircity
Yeah you can based on nothing more than gossip.
@@zed351 ... Guessing you're really Ian Bailey. Good luck evading justice.
@@MrEnginemount
Yawn what are you, 5?
He should be locked up with the key thrown away. Everything leads back to him, just shows how flawed the justice system is! Poor woman ☹️
Really! Actually it shows how robust the system is! There is no direct evidence against him at all. There is quite a lot of evidence that was tainted meaning it wouldn't stand up in court!
He probably did do it but you need evidence.
@Loading Opinions The DPP report clearly states that the "confessions" are taken out of context.
Husband of Sophie didn't even fly to Ireland whether divorced or separated or whatever the reason,she was his lover at some point and (even stepfather to the boy visiting to him for christmas holida)do nothing about her.Not just mere mysterious dead or natural cause of dead,she was killed by such a voilent way that alone should make ex husband(well-known French film producer and advisor to some newspaper) & son duo should seek for revenge 😁 at least try to find justice and peace.But it took 23 years to get a verdict.
The ones who really guility are all of those "friends/relatives and some locals who dont know but still judge Ian Bailey.
@@ThaNathanater I am not saying Ian Bailey is innocent .Scratched marks,fresh wound on forehead,changing the story time to time and Love to be center of Spotlight all the time.Time can change the guility to innocencd and innocence to guility.That's all I am saying😁
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Random Task is Bailey so is jack burton.
"whinging pom"... why is he using Aussie slang?
I feel that he is not guilty.
An UFO did it.
It’s impossible to say
@@TomJones-nh3fx Ridiculous.
@@margot9887 nothing concrete ties Ian to the case, I am not saying he is or isn’t guilty, all evidence is just circumstantial
@@TomJones-nh3fx An awfull lot of circumstantial evidences. On French law it's with a trial.
Move on!!!
I’m Ian Bailey & I’m guilty.
I’m also an idiot who writes the worst poetry. I have a few other accounts Fred Bloggs, Adam Hardcourt, & a couple others.
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