There’s no evidence because he burned it in his back garden straight after murder! Also he nearly beat his partner to death 3 times, on top of all the other circumstantial evidence how the hell is he not in prison? I feel sorry for Sophie and her family but at least he was found guilty in France
None of that makes him guilty does it. And your desire for it to be so doesn't either. I feel sorry for the family, but trying to condemn a man against whom there was not a shred of evidence of his guilt will not help them, or bring Sophie back. Leave him alone.
@@3am.chapters What evidence? The coat was not burnt, the police took it. It is documented by them that it was taken and cut up for analysis in their lab. People like you are the reason innocent people are in prison, you believe utter nonsense without bothering to fact check it.
I watched ..Sophie: a murder in West Court ..many times and no matter what Ian Bailey wants to think 🤔 all the way from San Antonio Texas.. I believe that he knocked on her door she answered it he yanked her out… she went running away and then he went after her with anger rage and beat her up with a rock I think he is guilty as hell!!
As a woman living alone I'd never sleep with an open door or open my door to a male I do not expect (even one I know) in the evening hours. I don't believe Sophie did either. I believe Sophie's murder might have been arranged by a jealous female from the village. Perhaps a shopkeeper (?)...I guess Sophie visited local shops quite often. Perhaps the shop lady's husband had an eye for Sophie and this was not appreciated...
@@mpat100 Why? Does it not make you you wonder who was the mysterious man that was met by 'Fiona' near the crime scene around the time of the murder? And what he was invited there for? Somehow everyone can make judgements about Ian on here but other obvious suspects can be overlooked (?)I believe Sophie deserves to have the real murderer(s) brought to justice.
@@shakirathebudgie7271 It is astounding that police had Marie Farrell saying she was near the crime scene with a man, but the police never treated either of them as potential suspects and didn't even bother identifying the man she was with. I feel the same about the neighbours who allegedly had disputes with Sophie. The police and their single minded focus on Bailey has resulted in the murderer slipping though their fingers, exactly like the Colin Stagg case.
He was on the scene before they told him who was murdered. He wrote about the fact that she wasn't sexually assaulted before that information was released (in fact he wrote the article before the autopsy was even finished). He said he didn't know her, but others say he met her. He confessed to killing her to multiple people, including a teenage boy when he was drunk: saying that he hasn't been well since he "smashed that woman's head in" (we know the boy wasn't lying because Bailey admitted saying it, and claimed he was "joking". Hilarious joke smh). The murderer would have had scratches all over his arms due to the fact that the body was found laying in bramble/briars. Well guess what? Bailey had scratches all over his hands and forearms. He claimed it was from "cutting down Christmas trees". Well they tested this theory and his scratches were not consistent with cutting down pine trees. In fact, his scratches were thin parallel lines, perfectly consistent with bramble and briar scratches. He had a cut on his face but claimed it was from "killing a turkey". His alibi was that he was sleeping next to his wife, which changed to "oh I may have gotten up and wrote in the kitchen", to "oh I may have gone out to my office on the other side of the property and done some writing in the middle of the night" (which was a good 20 minutes walk away - Sophie's house was 30 minutes drive from his house). His wife vouched for him and said he was in bed, and then changed her story to match his, concurring that he was up writing. However she didn't really know if he left the house or not, she just said "well he must have because I saw the finished article" (as if he couldn't have written the article at any time, how would she know?). He just happened to have a bonfire shortly after Sophie was killed and a witness claimed that he had his dark coat soaking in a bucket in the bathroom. On top of all of that, he is clearly a delusional narcissist (fancying himself a poet - but his poetry is lacklustre to say the least) and he was a violent man with a history of assault against women (almost choking his ex wife to death at one point).
@@brianmcginley2743 "@mpat100 that old temper of your ian.... be careful, you might give yourself a heart attack.... or confess again...." How embarrassing for you Brian McGinley that I have seen @mpat100 make comments after Bailey's death. Yet another one you accused of being Bailey, you sad little spamming troll. *YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED BRIAN MCGINLEY*
@@WyreForestBiker hi how are yu I hope yur well I appreciate what yu are saying but none the less experts can still be wrong my belief is that he is totally innocent from watching the interviews which I have seen I honestly don't think he could remain so calm chilled and relaxed if he was guilty the worst thing about some of these so called experts is they tend to over asses and therefore complicate things ie I could be totally wrong thanks for yur comment
@@WyreForestBiker Body language is pseudoscience. It is utter nonsense. They start with the belief that he is guilty and the rest is confirmation bias.
I believe Bailey is totally innocent there is no way if he had committed the murder he could talk and discuss about it in such a relaxed manner if he was guilty
If he is a pathological liar, he can. Another narcissist is Prince Harry’s wife. She ‘s a proven pathological liar , and she lies convincingly. She’s a middle - midranged narcissists , I believe Ian Bailey is a malignant narcissist.
I nearly done 3 years in prison for 5 witnesses falsely claim seeing I assaulted someone with a glass in a bar. So I'm weary of believing the peasants and the town mob from my own experience.
Exactly. Witnesses are notoriously unreliable and even make stuff up. It is bizarre that people put so much faith in witness testimony, especially after the so-called witnesses have already been told by the police that he is the murderer! I have no doubt that the town was in a state of hysteria.
100% agree. When you see what the screaming hordes believe en masse about religion, politics etc and how they change their opinions over generations then you see that their opinions aren't worth much at all.
I agree with you Connor, this man (Ian Bailey) has withstood 25 years of scrutiny and accusations ... until there is unfalsifiable evidence (i.e. not witness testimony) then he is innocent until PROVEN guilty.
Emm no, all the evidence lead to Ian are circumstantial, if I'm defending Ian, I can surely cross examine the witness who talked about the black coat soaked in a bucket, the scratches at Ian hand.. No physical evidence of Ian at the crime scenes, none whatsoever, guarda needs to find one tiny physical factor that can't links Ian to the crime scenes.
@@julesmail639 The coat soaking in a bucket witness changed her story for the documentary. Her original statement to police said it was *dark clothing in the bath* Funny how she changed her story years later to a coat in a bucket, it's almost like she is making it up....oh and would that be the same coat that was burned on the bonfire, so which is it? Washed or burnt? Maybe both? However it could not have been burnt as the police took it as evidence. How on Earth would you get blood stains out of a coat and dried by the next day in December anyway? He was seen, on video, at the beach wearing it. More example of the utter nonsense from hysterical witnesses who constantly change their story.
I think he was obsessed with her knew about her party's stalked her from her window and became deluded with fantasies of what he wanted to do with her . He pursued her over poetry. He could of been at one of her parties for all we know could of been swingers even definetly some sort of relationship happened all the evidence of burning clothing denying knowing her he's quite starnge character who likes to beat women and drink I think he knocked on the door or was there that night and they got in to a fight
If he knew about her, then he would have written about her in his diary. If she knew him, she would have also written about it in hers. They both kept extensive diaries.
@@denisebarlow7458 Making up theories of secret diaries to explain that they did know each other is stretching credulity. The fact their extensive dairies had zero content regarding each other is quite telling. If Bailey knew Sophie then he would not have kept that quiet, the whole town would have known. Even her neighbour Alfie only claimed that they had been introduced once in his garden and he wasn't sure about that. Alfie would definitely have known if Bailey knew Sophie because he knew Bailey well and of course would have seen him visiting her home etc. Claims from France that Sophie had said she knew Bailey are wishful thinking. Agnes Thomas claimed that in 1996 Sophie mentioned she was due to meet a man in Ireland who wrote poetry. However the question is, why did she not say this at the time? She claims that she had blanked out this conversation for 18 years due to the shock over her murder but then "remembered" it in 2015? Can you see how ridiculous that claim is?
It's not about making up theory's it's a possibility only because one diary was found doesn't meant she didn't know him cause he wasn't mentioned in it ...and the sister could of suffered trauma from havin her sister murdered when things get brought up years later important memories can be recollected
He reminds me of someone I knew who also saw himself in Ian Bailey. Two narcissists who can lie pathologically without batting an eye.... Several confessions that he denies or discounts...he lied about his whereabouts that night....Has no alibi.... The journalist who first arrived from outside Schull to cover the story said Bailey seemed to know way too much about what happened- and this was before the police released any statement. He severely beat up his partner, three times, so he's one of those kind of men... (Most men wouldn't )..I also heard he made advances to Mme. Du Plantier while in the pub that night and she said something back to him (a rebuke)- that rebuke would hurt his fragile ego, hence bringing on narcissistic rage (Jules's beatings confirms to me that he had narcissistic rage).....the odds are stacked up .... A woman beater (fact, the photos show how badly he beat her), no alibi, several confessions, scratches....and there's more (a local video of a community dive the next day and the very first thing Ian Bailey says is 'i want an attorney's - only Ian Bailey knows what Ian Bailey did or didn't do.
How do you know he is a narcissist? Are you qualified to make that phycological assessment? Have you interviewed him or even spoken to him? "Several confessions that he denies or discounts" Had you read the context of the discussions you would know that they are clearly sarcasm in the face of accusations being made to him. Read the 2001 Irish DPP report, it provides the context. You do agree that the context of any such claim is important to establish first? "Bailey seemed to know way too much about what happened" Except he didn't. He got much of his speculation wrong. Like anybody else, he was listening to rumour and gossip and then reporting it. If you had actually looked at his reports from the time you would already know much of it was way off the mark. Alfie and Shirley would have been on the telephone to everybody they knew after discovering the murder and the rumours would have been flying around in hours. A friend of theirs knew that Sophie was murdered before noon, before Bailey knew, and they live in Cork City! "He severely beat up his partner, three times, so he's one of those kind of men.." That does not make him a murderer. His ex-wife stated that he never hit her, so it was limited to Jules. Of course in 90's rural Ireland, drunken domestic violence was common, meaning it could have been half the village too. "I also heard he made advances to Mme. Du Plantier while in the pub that night " You heard wrong. They never met in the pub that night. Stop spreading utter nonsense. "no alibi" He has an alibi, he wrote an article (which was found the next day on the kitchen table) and went to the studio house to type it, as that is where his typewriter is. Jules stated that he often left the bed, so it would not be unusual. You not believing his alibi is irrelevant, he did have one. "scratches" You mean the scratches that Jules' daughter testified that he had before the murder? The ones from the tree that he climbed and topped and then was witnesses by a neighbour dragging it home? Ah yes the video next day, the one where Ian Bailey prominently features, the video that police showed to star witness Marie Farrell who could not identify Bailey on it after claiming she had see him outside her shop...of course years later she admits she lied about Bailey anyway.
Trying to manufacture a case? What evidence is there he killed her? None, or the police would have charged him. And got a conviction. Neither of which happened.
@@random6809 you have obviously had no personal dealings with a narcissist. The narcissist I lived with recognised himself in Ian Bailey. The journalist Brigid McLoughlin who spent 3 days with him described his sudden rage switch and more. I know this type of man. You lived it once, it's a lesson you never forget. So yes I am clinically diagnosing him by my four year PhD in narcissistic personality disorder.
For that you will need evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. The Irish DPP haven't even charged him, that is how weak it is. They stated: "A prosecution against Bailey is not warranted by the evidence."
As annoying as it may seem, IMHO there’s not enough to convict him beyond reasonable doubt. I also think with all the publicity, he could never receive a fair trial. That’s not to say I don’t think he did it. I think the fact is that the killer, whoever that may be, has got away with it. I’m also baffled by women, in this day and age, who seem to want to throw themselves at men who have committed horrific violent crimes against women.
Well gardai are now investigating a French man from Paris who's a friend of her ex husband ,if his DNA matches the ones on her and glasses of wine at the house they will have finally got there man. Bailey is just a English weirdo no killer.
@@denzel1989 I hear you Denzel my only issue with the hired killer from abroad theory..if that’s what you were saying..is how difficult to find the location is for a stranger. And the method of killing very messy for a professional? Outside, and using rocks/breeze blocks? Would a pro, unfamiliar with the area and how many people pass by, really want to do this in public? And a method that would likely require a pro to have to change clothes? Doesn’t seem a professional way. Just seems more like a frenzied attack from a weirdo. Ok it could have been a way to throw police off the scent, but over elaborate, risky, and too random IMHO
Ian Bailey... how is this individual still walking free !! having been convicted of the Murder of Sophie Toscan DP... Bailey is a very deceitful & contrived individual with a previous history of assaulting's his previous partners.. he actually admitted to killing Sophie to a variety of locals & yet subsequently backtracked when arrested on two occasions in connection with the murder as a main suspect, Bailey stated he never knew of the victim or had ever spoken to her which was proved to be more lies! yes there is a lot of circumstantial evidence in this case, however it all points most clearly to Ian Bailey so much so it was enough to convict him of the Murder of Sophie in a French court and be sentenced to 25yrs, Ireland refuse to recognise the conviction and so will not let grant France the extradition.. probably because the "Garda" made such a cluster F...K of the investigation by failing to cordon off the murder scene & effectively and let vital evidence disappear including an entire farm gate covered in blood from Sophie... I hope Sophie gets justice and there is Justice for the family.. and so still "Ian Bailey" lords it up in cork living of the back of his notoriety, I am amazed by now he hasn't found himself leaving this world by unnatural causes..
" how is this individual still walking free" Because Ireland has the Common Law principle of Innocent Until Proven Guilty. He has been convicted by the French who have nothing to do with it and convict people based on hearsay. If you would prefer to be on trial using the French Napoleonic system, then good luck, you will need it. "Bailey is a very deceitful & contrived individual with a previous history of assaulting's his previous partners." Bailey has assaulted Jules, however his wife stated that he has never assaulted her. Domestic violence against your current partner does not mean you go out and murder somebody else. If it did then there would be millions of murders. "he actually admitted to killing Sophie to a variety of locals" No he did not. The prosecution make it clear that he was using sarcasm in the face of people making ridiculous accusations to him. You do understand the use of sarcasm? You may not agree with his use of it, but that does not make them "confessions". "Bailey stated he never knew of the victim or had ever spoken to her which was proved to be more lies!" No it has not. Sophie's neighbour claimed to have introduced them in his garden 18 months prior to the murder. Bailey claims that she was simply pointed out to him. There is no evidence that they ever met. They both kept extensive diaries, he was never mentioned in Sophie's and she was never in Bailey's. If he knew her he would have absolutely wrote about her. Justice for the family is not convicting the local convenient weirdo based on nothing more than hearsay and village gossip.
@@random6809 Well there are conflicting views .. and many lies from Bailey… why would he randomly burn 🔥 a set of clothing a day after the murder..🤔 .. scratches on his face 🤷♂️ Bailey stated that it was some branches more bull 💩 … the open deceit of this individual is unbelievable.. he was subsequently identified on the night the murder took place by a key witness .. yes she later said she lied 🤥.. but the court & judge decided that she did originally tell the truth … when interviewed Bailey stated he never left his house that evening, the murder took place ..and then his wife/partner subsequently told the local “Garda” that he did leave the house randomly in the early hours of the morning😏… Bailey then had to admit that he left the house in the early hours 0100-2000hrs to walk up to another property half a mile from where Sophie was found murdered the following day 🤔…. Seriously look at the amount of background to this case and the continual lying 🤥 of Bailey .. he’s 100% guilty !! even “Inspector Clouseau” would come to the same conclusion… Ian Bailey Guilty as charged ..
@@salvaquest2123 "why would he randomly burn a set of clothing a day after the murder" What clothing are you referring to? "scratches on his face. Bailey stated that it was some branches more bull" No he did not. The single hairline scratch was from the turkey. Where are you getting this nonsense from? "he was subsequently identified on the night the murder took place by a key witness .. yes she later said she lied 🤥.. but the court & judge decided that she did originally tell the truth" Marie Farrell lied, she admitted she lied. She wanted to go to France to say that she had lied. Them knowingly using her lies shows how corrupt the French justice system is! You think that is acceptable? "Bailey stated he never left his house that evening, the murder took place ..and then his wife/partner subsequently told the local “Garda” that he did leave the house randomly in the early hours of the morning" Jules stated that Bailey often left the bed. She did not say he had left the house, Bailey did. The studio is next to the main house, not half a mile from Sophie. Again where are you getting this nonsense? Your grasp of the basic facts is incredibly poor!
@@random6809 🤔 Well it appears you feel compelled to defend this “convicted” individual as you want to seemingly provide a counter argument for all that I detail .. I wonder why …. In regard to the clothes that were set fire 🔥 these were found at the rear of the studio, the recent fire remains contained partial remains of a coat including coat buttons, & burned boots? So why would someone randomly sets fire to a set of clothes in their garden? Ultimately to conceal any potential DNA? It’s the one proven method to destroy any potential link with the clothing & Sophie. 🤔 True not all individuals who assault their partners will go on to murder, however “Ian Bailey” described in a psychiatrists report as having a personality constructed on narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity, with an intolerance to frustration & great need for recognition, and when under the influence of alcohol became violent. Ian Bailey with 3 convictions for assaulting his partner didn’t just assault his partner on one occasion he battered her so badly she was hospitalised!! Kicked & Punched from head to foot, a violent ugly act from an imposing self absorbed cowardly man, any one of the kicks or punches could have resulted in a tragic loss of life, Bailey has the audacity to sit and defend his actions based upon his drinking, absolute Bull 💩…..and yet you feel compelled to defend this bully of a man 🤷♂️ There are far too many coincidences, and altered statements along with some of the ridiculous excuses that have come from Bailey, the Turkeys claw that apparently scratched his head? That nobody previously witnessed, the scratches on Baileys hands and arms apparently from climbing a tree to remove the top 🤥 utter nonsense, this very act of cutting the tree top was repeated exactly as Bailey had told the story & yet they could not replicate the cuts/ scratches to their arms/hands. Changing statements on the night of the murder, first he was in bed then no he got up in the early hours to finish writing, but decided to walk 300 metres to the studio to do so 🤷♂️.. Ian Bailey had even told others that the victim was French before he was actually told himself!! You clearly have an agenda to challenge what others may feel or choose to believe however I think you need to remove those rose tinted glasses, individuals and professional bodies far more qualified have amassed a lot of information & evidence yes it may be circumstantial, but it was all enough to convict “Ian Bailey” of the unlawful killing ( Murder) of “Sophie Toscan du Plantier” We will I am sure have to agree to disagree on this one, however if you feel so compelled to prove this individual had nothing to do with the Murder of Sophie then ask/get him to agree to a “Polygraph Test” I’d be intrigued to review the findings/results as no doubt would the family of Sophie. Maybe just maybe the family would get some closure. 🤔 The final thought, So if I was an investigate journalist apparently very good at my job ( and the finger of suspicion was directed at me) I would make it my task to investigate the murder that I was convicted of, not just make up stories for deflection and to sell newspapers, stating utter nonsense about French assassins!! but actually use all the contacts I had and turn over every stone possible….. and clear the suspicion against me. French assassins that choose a random item of stone as a weapon of choice !! Utter nonsense! 🤔 maybe one day before he leaves this world “Ian Bailey’s conscience will finally get the better of him & he will come clean, but somehow I get the impression he’ll continue he’s act of deceit and deflection to the bitter end.
@@salvaquest2123 "I wonder why " So others reading these comments get facts, not the nonsense claims that you have made out of ignorance of the case. "In regard to the clothes that were set fire these were found at the rear of the studio, the recent fire remains contained partial remains of a coat including coat buttons, & burned boots?" The police found nothing of evidential value and the fire was not recent. Jules stated that the bonfire was November, she was clearing out the studio house. The police took his coat as evidence and cut it for samples, so it wasn't burnt because it was in their own evidence room! "described in a psychiatrists report" Bailey was never interviewed by that psychiatrist. You do know that, right? "True not all individuals who assault their partners will go on to murder" Then go on again to labour the point that assaulted Jules. Yes we know! It is not being disputed! "the Turkeys claw that apparently scratched his head?" It has been verified that he slaughtered the turkeys that day and sold them. "the scratches on Baileys hands and arms apparently from climbing a tree to remove the top" He was witnessed topping the tree, he was also witnessed dragging it home. You WILL get your arms scratched. "this very act of cutting the tree top was repeated exactly as Bailey had told the story" No it wasn't. The officer stated that they climbed a tree, they did not cut the top off it, drag it down the tree and then drag it home. "Changing statements on the night of the murder, first he was in bed then no he got up in the early hours to finish writing" The paper confirmed that he had a deadline the following day. Jules stated he often left the bed. So what? "Ian Bailey had even told others that the victim was French before he was actually told himself!" Cassidy had told him she was French. " individuals and professional bodies far more qualified have amassed a lot of information & evidence yes it may be circumstantial, but it was all enough to convict “Ian Bailey” of the unlawful killing ( Murder) of “Sophie Toscan du Plantier” The Irish DPP are the professionals. Had you bothered to read the 2001 report stating the reason why on four occasions they have refused to prosecute Bailey, then you may have more of a clue about this case. If you knew the fundamental difference between the Irish and French methods of investigating and prosecuting crimes, you would know why the French trial was fatally flawed too. Stop getting your "facts" from Netflix. You do know that the documentary had Sophie's cousin as a producer?
Definitely innocent if Bailey was guilty he couldn't discuss the case in such an extremely relaxed manner definitely innocent he is too calm and chilled if he was guilty it definitely would show
Je pense qu il est innocent, un homme excentrique oui qui aime provoquer, c est dans sa nature, mais il est innocent. Pourquoi, ne pas chercher l homme avec qui elle a eu une relation, je pense plutot à lui, que Bailey!!
Are you joking? Since time began, murderers are pathological weirdos who revel in sticking around for getting one up on people, and as much notice as possible...
He may be eccentric and arrogant, he may even enjoy the attention. however, there is no evidence that he is guilty. the rich, powerful family basically forced the french courts to rush to judgement.
@@carpe1959 "and 99% of schull thinks he is guilty the other 1% being him" No they don't, many believe it was a senor police officer. Others believe it was her neighbour Alfie, who had connections with the local drugs trade. There were 50+ other suspects.
What about it? They had a bonfire to burn stuff at the studio house. Jules stated it was November, a month *before* the murder. The police found nothing of any evidential use in it. Bailey was seen wearing his coat days and weeks *after* the murder. The police took it as evidence, so it wasn't burnt. Netflix lied.
@@brianmcginley2743 Bailey was wearing bedding? The bit you fail to mention Brian McGinley, as usual, is that the police also stated that there was nothing of evidentiary value.
@@random6809 We’re a kangaroo court we don’t need it. Now, if you’re going to demand a fair, unbiased investigation I regret to tell you we only care about rumor and intrigue. Besides, we found him guilty before his trial started and are already eating lunch.
@@random6809I have watched it over and over and over probably six times, Ian bragged about it let’s not forget that and the woman that came forward that saw him was the only one to call the police about him in that area and then backed out…
@@keepitforreally4501 Watched what six times? He didn't "brag about it", if you read the Irish DPP report they provide the context. He was clearly using sarcasm in the face of people making silly accusations to him. For example, you may say to me, "you stole my watch", to which I may sarcastically reply, "yeah of course I did". Is that a confession? Marie Farrell? She is now claiming that it is somebody known to Sophie's husband that she identified from a photo.
The Irish authorities ,like the amateurs they are in so many facets of Irish life,messed up, and even when he was convicted by a French court for Sophies murder,they still did not act.He is dead now and no one ever escapes their Karma.He will crave a life again and so will set in motion the conditions of rebirth and through his own karma he will among the many and varied events of his future life he will reap the experience that he has caused to another.
Yet four times the Irish prosecution have said that there is not even enough evidence to charge him. When the prosecutors are saying it, you should be reading their report into why they are saying it, not getting your "facts" from the TV.
@@random6809 there's a lot of circumstantial evidence but there isn't any definitive physical evidence (yet) because the local police were severely inexperienced. Nobody in living memory had been murdered in the town. The Garda had no clue what they were doing. They left her body outside in the elements for something like 14 hours, they trampled all over the crime scene and they missed opportunities to detect evidence. That's why this clown hasn't been convicted. Not because he is innocent.
@@TA-ik3kf Her neighbour Alfie Lyons claims that he introduced them 18 months before in his garden. Bailey claims she was merely pointed out to him. Well so what? That isn't a lie, Alfie said he wasn't sure and it was a year and half before so either or them could be mistaken. The claim that she spoke to her family about him is nonsense. That claim was made by one her relatives years later. Why wait years to say it? It's BS, that is why!
Do you have evidence that the Barristers at the DPP don't, as they saw ALL the evidence and refused to even charge him. TWICE. Well? Edit: Looks like @helenmclaren941 has run away.
He knew about the murder before anyone new about it, he also said to his gf the same night that something bad is going to happen there this night. He has marks all over his body that suddenly appear overnight in the morning. He is a cleaver psychopath. And of course he owned the same type of boots and coat as the person stalking her around cities, and then burned it two days after the murder. He even was the same hight as the stalker. Since late 2022 they are trying to get a DNA sample from the brick.
"He knew about the murder before anyone new about it... " No he didn't. People in Cork city knew about it an hour after Alfie and Shelley found the body. "he also said to his gf the same night that something bad is going to happen there this night." Oooh he must be the murder then! smh... "And of course he owned the same type of boots and coat as the person stalking her around cities, and then burned it two days after the murder." You mean the coat that the police took as evidence? The one that was in their own evidence room? How was that burnt when the police themselves had it and cut it for samples as documented in their own files? "He even was the same hight as the stalker. " No he wasn't. Marie Farrell's first statement was of a much short man, not even the same build. It was only after police said it was Bailey that her later statement said he was similar in height. You do know that Farrell has since said it was not Bailey she saw? She has identified a man matching the description of a friend of Sophie's husband as the man she saw "stalking" Sophie. Do keep up with the latest developments!
@@fredbloggs545 Maybe because he comments and argus with everyone on every single video on YT about how he did NOT do it? Ho use their time on YT 24/7 protecting some guy?
1 min I think he's guilty as sin an the next I think he's been harangued and wrongly accused 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ Im so confused.. But more than anything.. I really feel for Sophie family.. I've lost a son who's age wasn't much younger than Sophie 😢
@@firstladygenevieve3688 I am not suggesting he is the murderer of course, but Googling that name does reveal how focused the police were on Bailey and not on other possibilities. The same thing happened in the Colin Stagg case. I read from unverifiable sources that Karl Heinz Wolney lived less that one mile from Sophie (half the distance than IB) and had no alibi. He was allegedly a violent drunk wife beater. He committed suicide a couple of months after the murder with a friend saying that he had said he'd done a terrible thing. Of course when you dig you also find that Sophie's neighbour and one of the witnesses who went to the French trial aren't so innocent either....
It is clearly true that he met her,but knowing her ,he did not and I'm convinced of that..All this proves to me that is that he had no real. Friends,which proves again the the W.Cork people are not all they're cracked up to be You just cannot accept malicious remeurs or libellous rumours from anybody
The Irish prosecutors may do? Read the 2001 DPP report, it rips apart the police investigation. When even the prosecution say there is nowhere near a level of evidence to charge him, they should be listened to! Despite being arrested twice, they have refused to charge him.
It is a story you can't really make head nor tail of. What I find funny is how him and Jules Thomas made a living all these years. On top of all of this I get the feeling that Bailey was nothing but a tennant to Miss Thomas then when everything blew up she was left having to put a brave face on with a man she found she didn't really know. Stuck out on the Prarie he came across as a reprobate. Seems to have lived a funny life to me has Mr BaIley.
" Seems to have lived a funny life to me has Mr BaIley." Yeah being hounded as a murderer for 25 years will have that affect. Just be thankful that it isn't you, I wonder what YOU would end up like...
Nah they were defo partners, with him leeching off her & drawing the dole. The house was hers, she seemed to be a woman of means in terms of her home at the least. As with all sociopaths, their partners simply can't get rid of them even when the 'love' has gone. In the end before she threw him out, he really was like a belligerent child to her, a nuisance who refused to become independent. In an ironic way, I think Jules was finally able to throw him out as his violence towards her was high profile & in a strange way this protected her. He was an immature imp of a sociopath who Jules had the misfortune of meeting & falling in love with. The downfall of many a person. 2 alcoholics the pair of them were, and Jules looked rattled from the booze. Amazed she can remember anything that happened on the night of the murder
There were over fifty suspects, yet in ten days it was just Bailey. How is that even logistically possible? Karl Heinz Wolney: He was a musician, allegedly a violent drunk and wife beater. Lived just a mile from her, half the distance than Bailey. No alibi and was playing in Crookhaven where she was that night. He killed himself a month later and it is alleged he told his friend that he had done something terrible. George Pecout: Bruno Carbonnet and Sophie met him in Ireland. Bruno said he behaved oddly. He lived near her housekeeper Josie Hellen and had an interest in Sophie's cottage. He also killed himself. I find this case similar to Colin Stagg, in that the police focussed all their attention on one suspect without investigation into other leads properly.
There’s no evidence because he burned it in his back garden straight after murder! Also he nearly beat his partner to death 3 times, on top of all the other circumstantial evidence how the hell is he not in prison? I feel sorry for Sophie and her family but at least he was found guilty in France
Burned what? The coat that police took as evidence and cut up for samples?
None of that makes him guilty does it. And your desire for it to be so doesn't either. I feel sorry for the family, but trying to condemn a man against whom there was not a shred of evidence of his guilt will not help them, or bring Sophie back. Leave him alone.
@@verairemonger1260open your eyes, evidence can’t be clearer than this. People like you are the reason Sophie didn’t get justice.
@@3am.chapters
What evidence? The coat was not burnt, the police took it. It is documented by them that it was taken and cut up for analysis in their lab.
People like you are the reason innocent people are in prison, you believe utter nonsense without bothering to fact check it.
I watched ..Sophie: a murder in West Court ..many times and no matter what Ian Bailey wants to think 🤔 all the way from San Antonio Texas.. I believe that he knocked on her door she answered it he yanked her out… she went running away and then he went after her with anger rage and beat her up with a rock I think he is guilty as hell!!
Google Karl Heinz Wolney
As a woman living alone I'd never sleep with an open door or open my door to a male I do not expect (even one I know) in the evening hours.
I don't believe Sophie did either. I believe Sophie's murder might have been arranged by a jealous female from the village. Perhaps a shopkeeper (?)...I guess Sophie visited local shops quite often. Perhaps the shop lady's husband had an eye for Sophie and this was not appreciated...
@@shakirathebudgie7271 You cant just post a comment like that please remove it.
@@mpat100 Why? Does it not make you you wonder who was the mysterious man that was met by 'Fiona' near the crime scene around the time of the murder? And what he was invited there for? Somehow everyone can make judgements about Ian on here but other obvious suspects can be overlooked (?)I believe Sophie deserves to have the real murderer(s) brought to justice.
@@shakirathebudgie7271
It is astounding that police had Marie Farrell saying she was near the crime scene with a man, but the police never treated either of them as potential suspects and didn't even bother identifying the man she was with. I feel the same about the neighbours who allegedly had disputes with Sophie.
The police and their single minded focus on Bailey has resulted in the murderer slipping though their fingers, exactly like the Colin Stagg case.
Bailey had absolutely nothing to do with the lady's murder wouldn't be doing interviews if he was why don't they go after the real suspects?
He was on the scene before they told him who was murdered. He wrote about the fact that she wasn't sexually assaulted before that information was released (in fact he wrote the article before the autopsy was even finished). He said he didn't know her, but others say he met her. He confessed to killing her to multiple people, including a teenage boy when he was drunk: saying that he hasn't been well since he "smashed that woman's head in" (we know the boy wasn't lying because Bailey admitted saying it, and claimed he was "joking". Hilarious joke smh). The murderer would have had scratches all over his arms due to the fact that the body was found laying in bramble/briars. Well guess what? Bailey had scratches all over his hands and forearms. He claimed it was from "cutting down Christmas trees". Well they tested this theory and his scratches were not consistent with cutting down pine trees. In fact, his scratches were thin parallel lines, perfectly consistent with bramble and briar scratches. He had a cut on his face but claimed it was from "killing a turkey". His alibi was that he was sleeping next to his wife, which changed to "oh I may have gotten up and wrote in the kitchen", to "oh I may have gone out to my office on the other side of the property and done some writing in the middle of the night" (which was a good 20 minutes walk away - Sophie's house was 30 minutes drive from his house). His wife vouched for him and said he was in bed, and then changed her story to match his, concurring that he was up writing. However she didn't really know if he left the house or not, she just said "well he must have because I saw the finished article" (as if he couldn't have written the article at any time, how would she know?). He just happened to have a bonfire shortly after Sophie was killed and a witness claimed that he had his dark coat soaking in a bucket in the bathroom.
On top of all of that, he is clearly a delusional narcissist (fancying himself a poet - but his poetry is lacklustre to say the least) and he was a violent man with a history of assault against women (almost choking his ex wife to death at one point).
aww pooh pooh anthony are you a psychiatrist and a poetry expert? what are you qualifications do tell
@@mpat100 get bent
@@karlisd2870 Go away trollface
@@brianmcginley2743
"@mpat100 that old temper of your ian.... be careful, you might give yourself a heart attack.... or confess again...."
How embarrassing for you Brian McGinley that I have seen @mpat100 make comments after Bailey's death. Yet another one you accused of being Bailey, you sad little spamming troll.
*YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED BRIAN MCGINLEY*
@@mpat100
I have seen you commenting after Bailey died, so you are clearly not him like Brian McGinley accused you of being!
I believe Bailey was totally innocent there is no way he could talk about the murder in such a relaxed manner if he was guilty
yes
Every body language expert thinks he is as close to 100% guilty as it gets.
@@WyreForestBiker hi how are yu I hope yur well I appreciate what yu are saying but none the less experts can still be wrong my belief is that he is totally innocent from watching the interviews which I have seen I honestly don't think he could remain so calm chilled and relaxed if he was guilty the worst thing about some of these so called experts is they tend to over asses and therefore complicate things ie I could be totally wrong thanks for yur comment
@@WyreForestBiker no they dont
@@WyreForestBiker
Body language is pseudoscience. It is utter nonsense. They start with the belief that he is guilty and the rest is confirmation bias.
Innocent man,one would think,would be bawling from the roof tops. But this man seems pretty happy,even slightly boastful, in his churlish disavowals.
It's been 25 years and he still protests his innocence. What exactly is it you want him to say?
@@random6809 That's for the Irish police. If they'd done their investigations properly, he might have been fully exonerated.
@@MrResearcher122
Hopefully the cold case will reveal more.
I believe Bailey is totally innocent there is no way if he had committed the murder he could talk and discuss about it in such a relaxed manner if he was guilty
If he is a pathological liar, he can. Another narcissist is Prince Harry’s wife. She ‘s a proven pathological liar , and she lies convincingly. She’s a middle - midranged narcissists , I believe Ian Bailey is a malignant narcissist.
I nearly done 3 years in prison for 5 witnesses falsely claim seeing I assaulted someone with a glass in a bar. So I'm weary of believing the peasants and the town mob from my own experience.
Exactly. Witnesses are notoriously unreliable and even make stuff up. It is bizarre that people put so much faith in witness testimony, especially after the so-called witnesses have already been told by the police that he is the murderer! I have no doubt that the town was in a state of hysteria.
100% agree. When you see what the screaming hordes believe en masse about religion, politics etc and how they change their opinions over generations then you see that their opinions aren't worth much at all.
I agree with you Connor, this man (Ian Bailey) has withstood 25 years of scrutiny and accusations ... until there is unfalsifiable evidence (i.e. not witness testimony) then he is innocent until PROVEN guilty.
@@brianmcginley2743 In France......
@@brianmcginley2743 Still not convicting evidence I'm afraid.
Laura Richards did a show on her podcast along with an FBI homicide veteran and they pretty well showed that he is guilty af
Emm no, all the evidence lead to Ian are circumstantial, if I'm defending Ian, I can surely cross examine the witness who talked about the black coat soaked in a bucket, the scratches at Ian hand.. No physical evidence of Ian at the crime scenes, none whatsoever, guarda needs to find one tiny physical factor that can't links Ian to the crime scenes.
@@julesmail639
The coat soaking in a bucket witness changed her story for the documentary. Her original statement to police said it was *dark clothing in the bath*
Funny how she changed her story years later to a coat in a bucket, it's almost like she is making it up....oh and would that be the same coat that was burned on the bonfire, so which is it? Washed or burnt? Maybe both? However it could not have been burnt as the police took it as evidence.
How on Earth would you get blood stains out of a coat and dried by the next day in December anyway? He was seen, on video, at the beach wearing it.
More example of the utter nonsense from hysterical witnesses who constantly change their story.
Surely if he was there would be some evidence. Which there isn't. Is that a problem for you?
I think he was obsessed with her knew about her party's stalked her from her window and became deluded with fantasies of what he wanted to do with her . He pursued her over poetry. He could of been at one of her parties for all we know could of been swingers even definetly some sort of relationship happened all the evidence of burning clothing denying knowing her he's quite starnge character who likes to beat women and drink I think he knocked on the door or was there that night and they got in to a fight
If he knew about her, then he would have written about her in his diary. If she knew him, she would have also written about it in hers. They both kept extensive diaries.
There could of been another diary? And she supposedly mentioned him to her sister
@@denisebarlow7458
Making up theories of secret diaries to explain that they did know each other is stretching credulity.
The fact their extensive dairies had zero content regarding each other is quite telling. If Bailey knew Sophie then he would not have kept that quiet, the whole town would have known. Even her neighbour Alfie only claimed that they had been introduced once in his garden and he wasn't sure about that. Alfie would definitely have known if Bailey knew Sophie because he knew Bailey well and of course would have seen him visiting her home etc.
Claims from France that Sophie had said she knew Bailey are wishful thinking. Agnes Thomas claimed that in 1996 Sophie mentioned she was due to meet a man in Ireland who wrote poetry. However the question is, why did she not say this at the time? She claims that she had blanked out this conversation for 18 years due to the shock over her murder but then "remembered" it in 2015? Can you see how ridiculous that claim is?
People who have dealt with massive trauma like the murder of a sister can block or forget important information. And in years remember ..
It's not about making up theory's it's a possibility only because one diary was found doesn't meant she didn't know him cause he wasn't mentioned in it ...and the sister could of suffered trauma from havin her sister murdered when things get brought up years later important memories can be recollected
Definitely innocent
He reminds me of someone I knew who also saw himself in Ian Bailey. Two narcissists who can lie pathologically without batting an eye.... Several confessions that he denies or discounts...he lied about his whereabouts that night....Has no alibi.... The journalist who first arrived from outside Schull to cover the story said Bailey seemed to know way too much about what happened- and this was before the police released any statement. He severely beat up his partner, three times, so he's one of those kind of men... (Most men wouldn't )..I also heard he made advances to Mme. Du Plantier while in the pub that night and she said something back to him (a rebuke)- that rebuke would hurt his fragile ego, hence bringing on narcissistic rage (Jules's beatings confirms to me that he had narcissistic rage).....the odds are stacked up .... A woman beater (fact, the photos show how badly he beat her), no alibi, several confessions, scratches....and there's more (a local video of a community dive the next day and the very first thing Ian Bailey says is 'i want an attorney's - only Ian Bailey knows what Ian Bailey did or didn't do.
How do you know he is a narcissist? Are you qualified to make that phycological assessment? Have you interviewed him or even spoken to him?
"Several confessions that he denies or discounts"
Had you read the context of the discussions you would know that they are clearly sarcasm in the face of accusations being made to him. Read the 2001 Irish DPP report, it provides the context. You do agree that the context of any such claim is important to establish first?
"Bailey seemed to know way too much about what happened"
Except he didn't. He got much of his speculation wrong. Like anybody else, he was listening to rumour and gossip and then reporting it. If you had actually looked at his reports from the time you would already know much of it was way off the mark. Alfie and Shirley would have been on the telephone to everybody they knew after discovering the murder and the rumours would have been flying around in hours. A friend of theirs knew that Sophie was murdered before noon, before Bailey knew, and they live in Cork City!
"He severely beat up his partner, three times, so he's one of those kind of men.."
That does not make him a murderer. His ex-wife stated that he never hit her, so it was limited to Jules. Of course in 90's rural Ireland, drunken domestic violence was common, meaning it could have been half the village too.
"I also heard he made advances to Mme. Du Plantier while in the pub that night "
You heard wrong. They never met in the pub that night. Stop spreading utter nonsense.
"no alibi"
He has an alibi, he wrote an article (which was found the next day on the kitchen table) and went to the studio house to type it, as that is where his typewriter is. Jules stated that he often left the bed, so it would not be unusual. You not believing his alibi is irrelevant, he did have one.
"scratches"
You mean the scratches that Jules' daughter testified that he had before the murder? The ones from the tree that he climbed and topped and then was witnesses by a neighbour dragging it home?
Ah yes the video next day, the one where Ian Bailey prominently features, the video that police showed to star witness Marie Farrell who could not identify Bailey on it after claiming she had see him outside her shop...of course years later she admits she lied about Bailey anyway.
Trying to manufacture a case? What evidence is there he killed her? None, or the police would have charged him. And got a conviction. Neither of which happened.
@@random6809 you have obviously had no personal dealings with a narcissist. The narcissist I lived with recognised himself in Ian Bailey. The journalist Brigid McLoughlin who spent 3 days with him described his sudden rage switch and more. I know this type of man. You lived it once, it's a lesson you never forget. So yes I am clinically diagnosing him by my four year PhD in narcissistic personality disorder.
@@ShineMedia1
Yes of course you are.
You have also failed to address any of my points.
If Bailey was guilty why why why why was he never convincted I believe he was used as a scapegoat
Guilty
For that you will need evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. The Irish DPP haven't even charged him, that is how weak it is. They stated:
"A prosecution against Bailey is not warranted by the evidence."
@@random6809 yes, but everyone knows he is guilty, why to burn evidence
@@martincuper5142
Who's this "everyone"? What evidence was burnt? Please tell me that you didn't get that "fact" from Netflix!
Stupidity.
As annoying as it may seem, IMHO there’s not enough to convict him beyond reasonable doubt. I also think with all the publicity, he could never receive a fair trial. That’s not to say I don’t think he did it. I think the fact is that the killer, whoever that may be, has got away with it. I’m also baffled by women, in this day and age, who seem to want to throw themselves at men who have committed horrific violent crimes against women.
Well gardai are now investigating a French man from Paris who's a friend of her ex husband ,if his DNA matches the ones on her and glasses of wine at the house they will have finally got there man. Bailey is just a English weirdo no killer.
@@denzel1989 I hear you Denzel my only issue with the hired killer from abroad theory..if that’s what you were saying..is how difficult to find the location is for a stranger. And the method of killing very messy for a professional? Outside, and using rocks/breeze blocks? Would a pro, unfamiliar with the area and how many people pass by, really want to do this in public? And a method that would likely require a pro to have to change clothes? Doesn’t seem a professional way. Just seems more like a frenzied attack from a weirdo. Ok it could have been a way to throw police off the scent, but over elaborate, risky, and too random IMHO
Ian Bailey... how is this individual still walking free !! having been convicted of the Murder of Sophie Toscan DP... Bailey is a very deceitful & contrived individual with a previous history of assaulting's his previous partners.. he actually admitted to killing Sophie to a variety of locals & yet subsequently backtracked when arrested on two occasions in connection with the murder as a main suspect, Bailey stated he never knew of the victim or had ever spoken to her which was proved to be more lies! yes there is a lot of circumstantial evidence in this case, however it all points most clearly to Ian Bailey so much so it was enough to convict him of the Murder of Sophie in a French court and be sentenced to 25yrs, Ireland refuse to recognise the conviction and so will not let grant France the extradition.. probably because the "Garda" made such a cluster F...K of the investigation by failing to cordon off the murder scene & effectively and let vital evidence disappear including an entire farm gate covered in blood from Sophie... I hope Sophie gets justice and there is Justice for the family.. and so still "Ian Bailey" lords it up in cork living of the back of his notoriety, I am amazed by now he hasn't found himself leaving this world by unnatural causes..
" how is this individual still walking free"
Because Ireland has the Common Law principle of Innocent Until Proven Guilty. He has been convicted by the French who have nothing to do with it and convict people based on hearsay. If you would prefer to be on trial using the French Napoleonic system, then good luck, you will need it.
"Bailey is a very deceitful & contrived individual with a previous history of assaulting's his previous partners."
Bailey has assaulted Jules, however his wife stated that he has never assaulted her. Domestic violence against your current partner does not mean you go out and murder somebody else. If it did then there would be millions of murders.
"he actually admitted to killing Sophie to a variety of locals"
No he did not. The prosecution make it clear that he was using sarcasm in the face of people making ridiculous accusations to him. You do understand the use of sarcasm? You may not agree with his use of it, but that does not make them "confessions".
"Bailey stated he never knew of the victim or had ever spoken to her which was proved to be more lies!"
No it has not. Sophie's neighbour claimed to have introduced them in his garden 18 months prior to the murder. Bailey claims that she was simply pointed out to him. There is no evidence that they ever met. They both kept extensive diaries, he was never mentioned in Sophie's and she was never in Bailey's. If he knew her he would have absolutely wrote about her.
Justice for the family is not convicting the local convenient weirdo based on nothing more than hearsay and village gossip.
@@random6809 Well there are conflicting views .. and many lies from Bailey… why would he randomly burn 🔥 a set of clothing a day after the murder..🤔 .. scratches on his face 🤷♂️ Bailey stated that it was some branches more bull 💩 … the open deceit of this individual is unbelievable.. he was subsequently identified on the night the murder took place by a key witness .. yes she later said she lied 🤥.. but the court & judge decided that she did originally tell the truth … when interviewed Bailey stated he never left his house that evening, the murder took place ..and then his wife/partner subsequently told the local “Garda” that he did leave the house randomly in the early hours of the morning😏… Bailey then had to admit that he left the house in the early hours 0100-2000hrs to walk up to another property half a mile from where Sophie was found murdered the following day 🤔…. Seriously look at the amount of background to this case and the continual lying 🤥 of Bailey .. he’s 100% guilty !! even “Inspector Clouseau” would come to the same conclusion… Ian Bailey Guilty as charged ..
@@salvaquest2123
"why would he randomly burn a set of clothing a day after the murder"
What clothing are you referring to?
"scratches on his face. Bailey stated that it was some branches more bull"
No he did not. The single hairline scratch was from the turkey. Where are you getting this nonsense from?
"he was subsequently identified on the night the murder took place by a key witness .. yes she later said she lied 🤥.. but the court & judge decided that she did originally tell the truth"
Marie Farrell lied, she admitted she lied. She wanted to go to France to say that she had lied. Them knowingly using her lies shows how corrupt the French justice system is! You think that is acceptable?
"Bailey stated he never left his house that evening, the murder took place ..and then his wife/partner subsequently told the local “Garda” that he did leave the house randomly in the early hours of the morning"
Jules stated that Bailey often left the bed. She did not say he had left the house, Bailey did. The studio is next to the main house, not half a mile from Sophie. Again where are you getting this nonsense?
Your grasp of the basic facts is incredibly poor!
@@random6809 🤔 Well it appears you feel compelled to defend this “convicted” individual as you want to seemingly provide a counter argument for all that I detail .. I wonder why …. In regard to the clothes that were set fire 🔥 these were found at the rear of the studio, the recent fire remains contained partial remains of a coat including coat buttons, & burned boots? So why would someone randomly sets fire to a set of clothes in their garden? Ultimately to conceal any potential DNA? It’s the one proven method to destroy any potential link with the clothing & Sophie.
🤔 True not all individuals who assault their partners will go on to murder, however “Ian Bailey” described in a psychiatrists report as having a personality constructed on narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity, with an intolerance to frustration & great need for recognition, and when under the influence of alcohol became violent.
Ian Bailey with 3 convictions for assaulting his partner didn’t just assault his partner on one occasion he battered her so badly she was hospitalised!! Kicked & Punched from head to foot, a violent ugly act from an imposing self absorbed cowardly man, any one of the kicks or punches could have resulted in a tragic loss of life, Bailey has the audacity to sit and defend his actions based upon his drinking, absolute Bull 💩…..and yet you feel compelled to defend this bully of a man 🤷♂️
There are far too many coincidences, and altered statements along with some of the ridiculous excuses that have come from Bailey, the Turkeys claw that apparently scratched his head? That nobody previously witnessed, the scratches on Baileys hands and arms apparently from climbing a tree to remove the top 🤥 utter nonsense, this very act of cutting the tree top was repeated exactly as Bailey had told the story & yet they could not replicate the cuts/ scratches to their arms/hands.
Changing statements on the night of the murder, first he was in bed then no he got up in the early hours to finish writing, but decided to walk 300 metres to the studio to do so 🤷♂️..
Ian Bailey had even told others that the victim was French before he was actually told himself!!
You clearly have an agenda to challenge what others may feel or choose to believe however I think you need to remove those rose tinted glasses, individuals and professional bodies far more qualified have amassed a lot of information & evidence yes it may be circumstantial, but it was all enough to convict “Ian Bailey” of the unlawful killing ( Murder) of “Sophie Toscan du Plantier”
We will I am sure have to agree to disagree on this one, however if you feel so compelled to prove this individual had nothing to do with the Murder of Sophie then ask/get him to agree to a “Polygraph Test” I’d be intrigued to review the findings/results as no doubt would the family of Sophie.
Maybe just maybe the family would get some closure.
🤔 The final thought, So if I was an investigate journalist apparently very good at my job ( and the finger of suspicion was directed at me) I would make it my task to investigate the murder that I was convicted of, not just make up stories for deflection and to sell newspapers, stating utter nonsense about French assassins!! but actually use all the contacts I had and turn over every stone possible….. and clear the suspicion against me.
French assassins that choose a random item of stone as a weapon of choice !! Utter nonsense!
🤔 maybe one day before he leaves this world “Ian Bailey’s conscience will finally get the better of him & he will come clean, but somehow I get the impression he’ll continue he’s act of deceit and deflection to the bitter end.
@@salvaquest2123
"I wonder why "
So others reading these comments get facts, not the nonsense claims that you have made out of ignorance of the case.
"In regard to the clothes that were set fire these were found at the rear of the studio, the recent fire remains contained partial remains of a coat including coat buttons, & burned boots?"
The police found nothing of evidential value and the fire was not recent. Jules stated that the bonfire was November, she was clearing out the studio house. The police took his coat as evidence and cut it for samples, so it wasn't burnt because it was in their own evidence room!
"described in a psychiatrists report"
Bailey was never interviewed by that psychiatrist. You do know that, right?
"True not all individuals who assault their partners will go on to murder"
Then go on again to labour the point that assaulted Jules. Yes we know! It is not being disputed!
"the Turkeys claw that apparently scratched his head?"
It has been verified that he slaughtered the turkeys that day and sold them.
"the scratches on Baileys hands and arms apparently from climbing a tree to remove the top"
He was witnessed topping the tree, he was also witnessed dragging it home. You WILL get your arms scratched.
"this very act of cutting the tree top was repeated exactly as Bailey had told the story"
No it wasn't. The officer stated that they climbed a tree, they did not cut the top off it, drag it down the tree and then drag it home.
"Changing statements on the night of the murder, first he was in bed then no he got up in the early hours to finish writing"
The paper confirmed that he had a deadline the following day. Jules stated he often left the bed. So what?
"Ian Bailey had even told others that the victim was French before he was actually told himself!"
Cassidy had told him she was French.
" individuals and professional bodies far more qualified have amassed a lot of information & evidence yes it may be circumstantial, but it was all enough to convict “Ian Bailey” of the unlawful killing ( Murder) of “Sophie Toscan du Plantier”
The Irish DPP are the professionals. Had you bothered to read the 2001 report stating the reason why on four occasions they have refused to prosecute Bailey, then you may have more of a clue about this case.
If you knew the fundamental difference between the Irish and French methods of investigating and prosecuting crimes, you would know why the French trial was fatally flawed too.
Stop getting your "facts" from Netflix. You do know that the documentary had Sophie's cousin as a producer?
Definitely innocent if Bailey was guilty he couldn't discuss the case in such an extremely relaxed manner definitely innocent he is too calm and chilled if he was guilty it definitely would show
Jack Burtan is Ian Bailey! Watch how he defend himself in the comments section here and on all similar videos.
He's a right cl0vvn, thinks we dont know its him.
You Need a therapist
Je pense qu il est innocent, un homme excentrique oui qui aime provoquer, c est dans sa nature, mais il est innocent. Pourquoi, ne pas chercher l homme avec qui elle a eu une relation, je pense plutot à lui, que Bailey!!
L'homme "avec qui elle a eu une relation" et a mon avis, mort.
@@bertoldriesenteil1430 he isn't police are now after a man from Paris who they finally got identified
@@denzel1989 What do you mean by "are after"? Does that mean that he is on the run? That would be an admission of guilt if he were.
Pour moi ce Bailey est coupable a 100% !
@@nicolewis8811 Quel est votre peuve?
He is guilty as hell!
nope
@@mpat100 Yes
@@pf1309 nope
@@mpat100 I’ve studied the case extensively. I can tell you with 100% assurance that Ian Bailey killed Sophie Tuscan Du Plantier.
@@pf1309
Rubbish.
If Bailey was guilty there is absolutely no way he could discuss the murder in such a casual way
Are you joking? Since time began, murderers are pathological weirdos who revel in sticking around for getting one up on people, and as much notice as possible...
Hmm I'm not sure. He had a lot of time to think and like anyone else perhaps he just believed his own lies in the end.
And there would also be some evidence of his guilt. Which there isn't.
killer
He may be eccentric and arrogant, he may even enjoy the attention. however, there is no evidence that he is guilty. the rich, powerful family basically forced the french courts to rush to judgement.
@@carpe1959
"and 99% of schull thinks he is guilty the other 1% being him"
No they don't, many believe it was a senor police officer. Others believe it was her neighbour Alfie, who had connections with the local drugs trade. There were 50+ other suspects.
If it was some poor family this case would already have been long forgotten.
If he did do it who did?
@@shane-irish no idea.... You?
@@lukemcevoy2385 sorry i meant if he didnt do it stupid youtube i taught i typed didnt weird that
Oh wow, she would've been the same age
He couldn't be guilty he is to calm to be guilty
Jack Burton & Random Task are Ian Bailey.
Ian/Jack over here is peak 'boomer commenting online' moment.
Hes really path3t1c.
Using the word "boomer" says much about you.
@@random6809 Ok Ian
@@radiationboyy
As does accusing everybody of being Ian.
@@random6809 Ok Ian
127 Jack Burton Comments.
What about fireplace nearby he's house ? with Clothes which he was seen at the day of murder... ??? what about it ?
What about it? They had a bonfire to burn stuff at the studio house. Jules stated it was November, a month *before* the murder. The police found nothing of any evidential use in it. Bailey was seen wearing his coat days and weeks *after* the murder. The police took it as evidence, so it wasn't burnt. Netflix lied.
@@brianmcginley2743
Bailey was wearing bedding?
The bit you fail to mention Brian McGinley, as usual, is that the police also stated that there was nothing of evidentiary value.
What he did to Sophie !!!
he murdered everybody like dominoes including her innocent SON!!
"What he did to Sophie !!!"
Evidence? Oh wait, you don't have any!
@@random6809 We’re a kangaroo court we don’t need it. Now, if you’re going to demand a fair, unbiased investigation I regret to tell you we only care about rumor and intrigue. Besides, we found him guilty before his trial started and are already eating lunch.
@@minergate677
You should be a French judge :D
@@random6809I have watched it over and over and over probably six times, Ian bragged about it let’s not forget that and the woman that came forward that saw him was the only one to call the police about him in that area and then backed out…
@@keepitforreally4501
Watched what six times?
He didn't "brag about it", if you read the Irish DPP report they provide the context. He was clearly using sarcasm in the face of people making silly accusations to him.
For example, you may say to me, "you stole my watch", to which I may sarcastically reply, "yeah of course I did". Is that a confession?
Marie Farrell? She is now claiming that it is somebody known to Sophie's husband that she identified from a photo.
Yes he did
The Irish authorities ,like the amateurs they are in so many facets of Irish life,messed up, and even when he was convicted by a French court for Sophies murder,they still did not act.He is dead now and no one ever escapes their Karma.He will crave a life again and so will set in motion the conditions of rebirth and through his own karma he will among the many and varied events of his future life he will reap the experience that he has caused to another.
The cold case team have stated that they continue to investigate. Don't be so sure that Bailey was their target.
He did it.
Yet four times the Irish prosecution have said that there is not even enough evidence to charge him. When the prosecutors are saying it, you should be reading their report into why they are saying it, not getting your "facts" from the TV.
@@random6809 nah you killed her
@@laflame5489
Nope I think it was you!
No he just burnt his clothes and mattress because he had crabs😂
@@random6809 there's a lot of circumstantial evidence but there isn't any definitive physical evidence (yet) because the local police were severely inexperienced. Nobody in living memory had been murdered in the town. The Garda had no clue what they were doing. They left her body outside in the elements for something like 14 hours, they trampled all over the crime scene and they missed opportunities to detect evidence. That's why this clown hasn't been convicted. Not because he is innocent.
Why did he lie about knowing her?
Did he? How do you know he lied?
@@random6809 they were introduced and she also spoke to her family about him
@@TA-ik3kf
Her neighbour Alfie Lyons claims that he introduced them 18 months before in his garden. Bailey claims she was merely pointed out to him. Well so what? That isn't a lie, Alfie said he wasn't sure and it was a year and half before so either or them could be mistaken.
The claim that she spoke to her family about him is nonsense. That claim was made by one her relatives years later. Why wait years to say it? It's BS, that is why!
Because he murdered her
@@random6809ok, Brian.
Thank you 🙏
This guy is innocent...... stitched up by the cops from day one....
The walking staff makes an appearance 😮
GUILTY .
Do you have evidence that the Barristers at the DPP don't, as they saw ALL the evidence and refused to even charge him. TWICE.
Well?
Edit: Looks like @helenmclaren941 has run away.
I wonder if the cold case team will interview Bailey sooner rather than later now he's had heart scares. They'll want his statements before he croaks!
@@brianmcginley2743
Brian McGinley, you look a right tool now that Bailey is dead and I am here.
@@brianmcginley2743
Brian McGinley has gone very quiet...run away have you Brian?
He brings the walking stick up to his face when he is asked the question and quickly says the word no while closing his mouth tight. Guilty.
Get a grip.
He blinks, that looks well shifty to me.
Raises eye brows, obvious murderer!
There is no evidence that could convict him. Which is why the Irish DPP wisely chose never to charge him. Not guilty.
@@verairemonger1260
But he "brings the walking stick up to his face when he is asked the question" so he is obviously guilty! 🙂
He reminds me so much of Pete Docherty. Perhaps it's the hat?
He knew about the murder before anyone new about it, he also said to his gf the same night that something bad is going to happen there this night. He has marks all over his body that suddenly appear overnight in the morning. He is a cleaver psychopath. And of course he owned the same type of boots and coat as the person stalking her around cities, and then burned it two days after the murder. He even was the same hight as the stalker. Since late 2022 they are trying to get a DNA sample from the brick.
"He knew about the murder before anyone new about it... "
No he didn't. People in Cork city knew about it an hour after Alfie and Shelley found the body.
"he also said to his gf the same night that something bad is going to happen there this night."
Oooh he must be the murder then! smh...
"And of course he owned the same type of boots and coat as the person stalking her around cities, and then burned it two days after the murder."
You mean the coat that the police took as evidence? The one that was in their own evidence room? How was that burnt when the police themselves had it and cut it for samples as documented in their own files?
"He even was the same hight as the stalker. "
No he wasn't. Marie Farrell's first statement was of a much short man, not even the same build. It was only after police said it was Bailey that her later statement said he was similar in height. You do know that Farrell has since said it was not Bailey she saw? She has identified a man matching the description of a friend of Sophie's husband as the man she saw "stalking" Sophie.
Do keep up with the latest developments!
@@random6809 You are Ian Bailey, I just know it.
@@epoxy1710
Because somebody with a different opinion to you must be IB?
@@fredbloggs545 Maybe because he comments and argus with everyone on every single video on YT about how he did NOT do it? Ho use their time on YT 24/7 protecting some guy?
@@epoxy1710
So because somebody knows more about this case they must be IB? That makes no sense.
1 min I think he's guilty as sin an the next I think he's been harangued and wrongly accused 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Im so confused.. But more than anything.. I really feel for Sophie family.. I've lost a son who's age wasn't much younger than Sophie 😢
Have you looked at the other suspects, Kar Heinz Wolney for example?
@@random6809 I don't believe I've even heard that name.. Thankyou for the tip, I shall look him up👌
@@firstladygenevieve3688
I am not suggesting he is the murderer of course, but Googling that name does reveal how focused the police were on Bailey and not on other possibilities. The same thing happened in the Colin Stagg case.
I read from unverifiable sources that Karl Heinz Wolney lived less that one mile from Sophie (half the distance than IB) and had no alibi. He was allegedly a violent drunk wife beater. He committed suicide a couple of months after the murder with a friend saying that he had said he'd done a terrible thing.
Of course when you dig you also find that Sophie's neighbour and one of the witnesses who went to the French trial aren't so innocent either....
It is clearly true that he met her,but knowing her ,he did not and I'm convinced of that..All this proves to me that is that he had no real. Friends,which proves again the the W.Cork people are not all they're cracked up to be
You just cannot accept malicious remeurs or libellous rumours from anybody
Ian Bailey Vibe check - please respond
narcissist, pathological narcissist, desperate mommy issues, pathological need for attention, and more...
@@antiochiaadtaurum3786 and the poetry too was just not hitting it!
@@radiationboyy whatever gets him attention, because mommy never gave him any
What a snoozefest.
What is DPP?
Sun 03 Sep 2023 13h08 GMT
Director of Public Prosecutions.
@@brianmcginley2743
Idiot, Bailey is dead and I am here. What a tool!
‘’Congrats Everyone Who Is Early & Found this Comment!” ☘️☘️
not guilty, in my opinion..and a courageous person to carry his cross for 25 yrs with a sense of Humour..wish I can meet him when I visit a.cork
😂😂😂😴
B.T.W is Neil down related to Ben Down,or Phil McCavvity?...jus wonderin,lol
@@jangowan5742 You got it and Mike Hunt
I agree....
Who done it then ???
I wonder is there anyone out there that thinks this bloke may be innocent of this crime
The Irish prosecutors may do? Read the 2001 DPP report, it rips apart the police investigation. When even the prosecution say there is nowhere near a level of evidence to charge him, they should be listened to! Despite being arrested twice, they have refused to charge him.
It is a story you can't really make head nor tail of. What I find funny is how him and Jules Thomas made a living all these years. On top of all of this I get the feeling that Bailey was nothing but a tennant to Miss Thomas then when everything blew up she was left having to put a brave face on with a man she found she didn't really know. Stuck out on the Prarie he came across as a reprobate. Seems to have lived a funny life to me has Mr BaIley.
Having looked at this footage I would be willing to bet everything i own Bailey is totally innocent
" Seems to have lived a funny life to me has Mr BaIley."
Yeah being hounded as a murderer for 25 years will have that affect. Just be thankful that it isn't you, I wonder what YOU would end up like...
@@zed351 please go to spec savers immediately yur mailing the wrong person I'm Michael yu need to double check who your mailing before you send
Nah they were defo partners, with him leeching off her & drawing the dole. The house was hers, she seemed to be a woman of means in terms of her home at the least. As with all sociopaths, their partners simply can't get rid of them even when the 'love' has gone. In the end before she threw him out, he really was like a belligerent child to her, a nuisance who refused to become independent. In an ironic way, I think Jules was finally able to throw him out as his violence towards her was high profile & in a strange way this protected her. He was an immature imp of a sociopath who Jules had the misfortune of meeting & falling in love with. The downfall of many a person. 2 alcoholics the pair of them were, and Jules looked rattled from the booze. Amazed she can remember anything that happened on the night of the murder
@@luckylisp455 I'm not Sarah I'm Michael you obviously replied to the wrong person
Guilty (without a shadow of a doubt ).
Then you must have evidence that the Irish DPP doesn't because they refused to even charge him.
@@brianmcginley2743
Well don't you look a tool Brian McGinley, now that Bailey is dead, yet here I am.
@@random6809 what a tool Brian is repeating the same stuff under every video......exact repetition too.....
@@jb7727
Brian McGinley has not posted anything since being exposed as a vicious troll.
If he didnt do it who did ?
There were over fifty suspects, yet in ten days it was just Bailey. How is that even logistically possible?
Karl Heinz Wolney: He was a musician, allegedly a violent drunk and wife beater. Lived just a mile from her, half the distance than Bailey. No alibi and was playing in Crookhaven where she was that night. He killed himself a month later and it is alleged he told his friend that he had done something terrible.
George Pecout: Bruno Carbonnet and Sophie met him in Ireland. Bruno said he behaved oddly. He lived near her housekeeper Josie Hellen and had an interest in Sophie's cottage. He also killed himself.
I find this case similar to Colin Stagg, in that the police focussed all their attention on one suspect without investigation into other leads properly.
@@random6809 yes so many i listened to west cork and murder on rowingwater