"I never had any doubt that Ian Bailey killed Sophie Toscan du Plantier"

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
  • The death of Ian Bailey leaves many unanswered questions in the murder of Sophie Toscan du Plantier. Irish Independent journalists Senan Molony and Ralph Riegel share their meetings and stories with Ian Bailey over the past 27 years.
    Host: Fionnán Sheahan Guests: Senan Molony & Ralph Riegel
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  • @overthrowaudio
    @overthrowaudio 7 месяцев назад +30

    How do you lose a gate? The answer is you don't. That evidence was disposed of. This case stinks of a coverup.

    • @acb5245
      @acb5245 6 месяцев назад +1

      Definately incompetance.

    • @freedomunltd
      @freedomunltd 6 месяцев назад

      @@acb5245And a cover-up

  • @Karl_with_a_K
    @Karl_with_a_K 7 месяцев назад +58

    The state failed Sophie, the sheer incompetence of that investigation is staggering. NOW, they are trying to blame a man who was never charged with the offence. I don't know whether he did it or not, but he was never tried or convicted of the crime. It's disgraceful.

    • @jimmyobrien8738
      @jimmyobrien8738 7 месяцев назад +4

      He was in France

    • @CianMcsweeney
      @CianMcsweeney 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@jimmyobrien8738 that was a sham trial, like the original commenter, I have no idea who killed her, may have been Bailey, may have been someone else, but that French trial was a farce, almost as big a farce as the investigation here was

    • @user-rh1nq1tz4c
      @user-rh1nq1tz4c 7 месяцев назад +5

      I am from West Cork, Everyone around here knows it was a Garda by the name of John Donnelly.

    • @random6809
      @random6809 7 месяцев назад

      @@jimmyobrien8738
      You mean the French hearing that convicted him to 25 years on the basis of Marie Farrell's lies? The lies that she admits are lies and that the court knew were lies?
      Of course wanting a conviction was nothing at all to do with it being an elite family which had the backing of the French President, did it...

    • @lubumbashi6666
      @lubumbashi6666 7 месяцев назад

      @@user-rh1nq1tz4c That's a myth started by a fantasist living in Bantry, there is zero evidence except a supposed "deathbed confession" told to a nurse who is dead who told her friend who is dead. The family of this nurse have completely denied it.

  • @mcguinin
    @mcguinin 7 месяцев назад +79

    Why is the video title "I never had any doubt that Ian Bailey killed Sophie" when he doesn't even say that?

    • @Hugh839
      @Hugh839 7 месяцев назад +6

      Maybe it's what the guy in charge of uploading the video said? 😀

    • @Hugh839
      @Hugh839 7 месяцев назад +3

      Maybe it's what the guy in charge of uploading the video said? 😀

    • @adrianmacgrath5814
      @adrianmacgrath5814 7 месяцев назад +1

      The independent is a shocking rag. The guards tried to stitch up Ian Bailey and let a murderer go free as a result. Bribery of a drug addict , Blackmail of a woman having an affair, they lost a gate, they rang the state solicitor to try to put pressure on them to Charge bailey and go to court, they lost a galvanised gate for god sake. yet here we are

    • @joeduffy3309
      @joeduffy3309 7 месяцев назад +13

      It's called click bait, I block any channel that does it, this one is added to the list, you'll be surprised after a few weeks how much utter tripe you never see again on your app

    • @ScullyBrewing
      @ScullyBrewing 7 месяцев назад +2

      Read between the lines

  • @johncreedon7847
    @johncreedon7847 7 месяцев назад +42

    Let's not forget..the huge gate with blood stains all over went missing from garda evidence. How in the name of God does that happen by accident.

    • @unasperanza9803
      @unasperanza9803 7 месяцев назад +4

      NEVER who would cover up and close ranks??ehh

    • @user-rh1nq1tz4c
      @user-rh1nq1tz4c 7 месяцев назад +4

      I am from West Cork, Everyone around here knows it was a Garda by the name of John Donnelly.

    • @supernova101010
      @supernova101010 7 месяцев назад

      ​@user-rh1nq1tz4c what was his story? Where is he now? Did he know sophie?

    • @unasperanza9803
      @unasperanza9803 7 месяцев назад

      He died years ago.@@supernova101010

    • @acb5245
      @acb5245 6 месяцев назад +1

      BS.

  • @86themadhatter27
    @86themadhatter27 7 месяцев назад +13

    The Gardai are the one's who should be investigated. Damaging crime scenes, evidence disappearing and all the while trying to break a suspect into taking the blame. I can't believe how much they got away with because ''ah we're only ol country garda's sher we dont know this kind of thing''

  • @peterdoyle1591
    @peterdoyle1591 7 месяцев назад +111

    Followed this case for years. Those small towns in the arse end of Ireland look after their own. Bailey was an English outsider and a narcissist who craved attention and put himself in the line of fire. The cops lost a farm yard gate with blood on it if I remember rightly. It all smells of a local cover-up by the cops.

    • @johnbrennan7764
      @johnbrennan7764 7 месяцев назад +1

      All true, , but also the click that is establishment Ireland were all against him. The newspapers snookered themselves early on by swallowing the Garda story hook, line and sinker. Thereafter protecting themselves from libel payments which they did was the big issue.

    • @dermotosullivan3065
      @dermotosullivan3065 7 месяцев назад +9

      I read once that they never lost the gate but simply discarded it once they had carried out forensic tests on it which yielded nothing.

    • @kevin654keane
      @kevin654keane 7 месяцев назад +12

      You must be joking me. This is schull you're talking about, their national anthem is god save the king, English people and foreigners have always been in Schull, its an affluent seaside village

    • @peterdoyle1591
      @peterdoyle1591 7 месяцев назад +18

      @@dermotosullivan3065 There are contradictions, speculations, and hearsay by everybody at every turn in this murder case. Information was given and retracted at every stage. Either way, the cops made a right pigs ear of it.

    • @peterdoyle1591
      @peterdoyle1591 7 месяцев назад +18

      @@kevin654keane English people and foreigners have always been in every West Cork town and village. But the cops were Irish and most of the locals are as well. I'm from Cork and I know these towns. Trust me you are always a blow-in even if you are living there 50 years. Oh! And go down to Schull and sing God save the King and see what happens to ya.

  • @prestigious5s23
    @prestigious5s23 7 месяцев назад +93

    In the end of the day it became clear the police didn't let the evidence guide them in their investigation to find the suspect, but rather they convinced themselves before anything that Bailey was the man who did it and they built the evidence around him to make him look guilty. An absolute shambles of an operation by the police, totally unprofessional and ruined that man's life.

    • @kaamkmca
      @kaamkmca 7 месяцев назад +9

      What about the role of the media and politicians?

    • @kaamkmca
      @kaamkmca 7 месяцев назад +8

      The State never charged him or convicted him but the media did. They convicted him and branded as the "main suspect" right up to the present. Ian Bailey deserved better from the media. The State did put him through an investigation process as one would expect. The investigation, even with it's mistakes, even with certain people telling lies to the Gardai, did produce substantial circumstantial evidence.

    • @vestibulate
      @vestibulate 7 месяцев назад +10

      @@_alienblood "He admitted many times he killed her when he got drunk all the locals will have said this"
      I'd hate to think "all the locals" could be full of wind and bullshit. Gossip? Backbiting? Singling out the stranger? I mean, I've lived in villages and there was never any of that carry on. No, never.

    • @johnbrennan7764
      @johnbrennan7764 7 месяцев назад +6

      Sarcasm I presume?

    • @_alienblood
      @_alienblood 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@vestibulate He admitted he said that! look only he knows if he did it or not although its not normal to say you killed someone,he had a history of violence against women that is a fact!

  • @user-xv2pf7qs5g
    @user-xv2pf7qs5g 7 месяцев назад +7

    Shocking policing from the get go...losing evidence...pure incompetence....they did their level worst to fit bailey up...the guys dead now...and this guy says this...never speak bad of the dead...you don't know where that could take you

  • @andydixon9707
    @andydixon9707 7 месяцев назад +8

    The Gardaí made a balls of it we will never know the truth

  • @user-rz9pp8vc7t
    @user-rz9pp8vc7t 7 месяцев назад +6

    The press is not judge and jury. One has to be tried in a court and there must be defence and prosecution and not heresay.

    • @unasperanza9803
      @unasperanza9803 7 месяцев назад +1

      THe press are doing at lot of that lately and getting away with it!!

  • @4cormacos
    @4cormacos 7 месяцев назад +54

    My gut tells me Ian Bailey is innocent. I smell another scandalous cover up.

    • @mpat100
      @mpat100 7 месяцев назад +6

      yes he was innocent how sad

    • @Maconnaith
      @Maconnaith 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@mpat100 so was OJ

    • @LeeH688
      @LeeH688 7 месяцев назад +1

      Only morons think their gut can supersede a court of law.

    • @joeduffy3309
      @joeduffy3309 7 месяцев назад +9

      yep, I'd be looking at local gaurds or priests or the usual,,,ahem,,,pillars of society.

    • @grose2272
      @grose2272 7 месяцев назад +4

      Yes the gaurda at that time! More than one of these men became infatuated with Sophie because she would have been exotic to men, especially back then. She was stalked by more than one , I believe Ian was one of them but he wasn't the one who killed her! It was someone more formal someone who thought they had more power and were brazenly watching for an opertunity..

  • @unasperanza9803
    @unasperanza9803 7 месяцев назад +5

    Remember the woman who said she say him at the time near the house and years later admitted she was threatened by police to say that lie??Gosh wonder who is covering up ...Close ranks lads...

  • @lehanedermot
    @lehanedermot 7 месяцев назад +18

    She was killed by someone she knew and who hated her, hence, all the wounds.

    • @grose2272
      @grose2272 7 месяцев назад +3

      Infatuation can cause psychopaths to act out like this as well.

    • @rightiswrongrightiswrong806
      @rightiswrongrightiswrong806 7 месяцев назад +10

      @@grose2272 So can money, and she was loaded. Maybe someone didn't want to part with a chateau or two.

    • @Maconnaith
      @Maconnaith 7 месяцев назад

      ....So Bailey then. Unless of course you don't believe Sophie's neighbour whonstated that he introduced Bailey to Sophie. Or you don't believe Sophie's colleague in Paris who states that before leaving for West Cork that Christmas, Sophie received a call to her office from and "Eoin Bailey". This "Eoin Bailey" stated that they (him and sophie) should meet up once she had got to West Cork. Bailey of course denies knowing her at all.... why lie?

    • @random6809
      @random6809 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@Maconnaith
      Alfie Lyons stated that he was 90% certain, so not completely certain. Either you are certain or not. It was a long time, some 18 months before the murder, Bailey stated that she had merely been pointed out by Alfie while in his garden. He has never denied knowing *OF* her, just not *KNOWING* her. Hardly some smoking gun, is it?
      As for claims from friends and family a long time after the murder and *AFTER* Bailey being named as no.1 suspect, it is hardly surprising that they conveniently "remember" conversations with Sophie that they didn't mention at the time.
      A friend of Alfie was at a party at his house not long before the murder, she said Bailey was there. The subject of their neighbour Sophie came up and Bailey said he did not know her.
      It was Tomi Ungerer that Sophie was going to do a project with, her husband stated it. She visited Tomi just before her murder. It is likely they are confusing Bailey with Tomi and want it to be Bailey.
      So you ask "why lie" when it is very likely he didn't lie.

  • @dianelafferty513
    @dianelafferty513 7 месяцев назад +5

    Let that poor man rest in peace now, the garda ruined his life. They should have been looked into

  • @jb1876
    @jb1876 7 месяцев назад +11

    Maybe the cops should look a little closer to home

  • @michaelmurphy333
    @michaelmurphy333 7 месяцев назад +12

    The sad truth is we'll never know , I don't think it's right to fling accusations around with no proof

    • @MamieCorkery-lz7in
      @MamieCorkery-lz7in 7 месяцев назад

      DNA will tell, and Cold Case should have done the M-Vac by now, todays article with Senan shows they haven't.

    • @emmaelwood9939
      @emmaelwood9939 7 месяцев назад

      That's the problem, people think just because the Guards have suspicions or someone was arrested they are guilty and side with the Guards, typical do gooders within society, yet if you question anything you are called a conspiracy theorist, no it's called a democracy and the Gardai in Cork messed up from the word go and Bailey was an outsider, stood out and whether people want to accept it he was targeted for being English, his treatment within Garda custody was nothing short of shocking.

  • @neilisagum
    @neilisagum 7 месяцев назад +13

    If the Irish Independant guy didn't say he was fully sure Bailey was guilty then I'd say Bailey was probably was guilty, now I'm not so sure, it's not like we're living in a country where cover up's never happen.

    • @hb19110
      @hb19110 7 месяцев назад +4

      She duPlantiere was friendly with a garda who has since died. A french man seen around was never identified and died in France before being questioned of cancer. A man near shop was not questioned. A woman was forced by garda to lie and say she saw Bailey as evidence against him or Garda told her he would tell her nusband about an affair . She later detracted as remorse set in ,and I THINK had to leave the country.

    • @neilisagum
      @neilisagum 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@hb19110 None of that would surprise me.

  • @paulminihan8396
    @paulminihan8396 7 месяцев назад +57

    I don't know whether Ian Bailey killed her or not, but in this jurisdiction we have a presumption of innocent. There is little or no evidence against him. The DPP was entirely correct not to prosecute and in any case, no judge would have allowed the case to be put before a jury. It is entirely possible, and in my opinion likely, that Ian Bailey put himself in the frame for attention. It is not unusual for innocent people to admit to crimes they did not commit for a myriad of reasons.

    • @gesamtkuntswreck
      @gesamtkuntswreck 7 месяцев назад +4

      Fair point
      That's why confessions need to be proved after all

    • @mrmc2465
      @mrmc2465 7 месяцев назад +4

      The guards clearly blew it with their shoddy handling of the crime scene, and putting the cart before the horse, nevertheless the amount of circumstantial evidence was overwhelming. Desperately sad her family couldn't get closure

    • @peterfitzpatrick7032
      @peterfitzpatrick7032 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@mrmc2465Would you convict someone of murder based solely on circumstantial evidence ?...

    • @TheMarkieGoodBoy
      @TheMarkieGoodBoy 7 месяцев назад

      I don't know. Burning clothes in your back yard and having defensive wounds on your face is pretty suspect

    • @peterfitzpatrick7032
      @peterfitzpatrick7032 7 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@TheMarkieGoodBoy ... yet no DNA evidence... how does THAT work ??... 🙄

  • @Paul5520
    @Paul5520 7 месяцев назад +5

    State failed yet another victim..incompetent Gardai in this instance. They know something they don’t want the rest of us to know.

  • @user-mu7bz6lr1j
    @user-mu7bz6lr1j 7 месяцев назад +15

    Doesn't even say who this guy is. Worms coming out when he can't defend himself

    • @mpat100
      @mpat100 7 месяцев назад +4

      exactly

  • @peterfitzpatrick7032
    @peterfitzpatrick7032 7 месяцев назад +6

    Jeez, the vultures didn't wait long to pick over these bones... his body is still warm ffs... 🙄

  • @sm-xd1wr
    @sm-xd1wr 7 месяцев назад +3

    Thankfully, in Ireland, the law says you are innocent until proven guilty. The Attorney General's office said there was no case. Thankfully, the spurious logic expressed here does not apply to our judicial system.

  • @joewhelan5018
    @joewhelan5018 7 месяцев назад +13

    There needs to be an inquiry into the inquiry

    • @taphhedrof1045
      @taphhedrof1045 7 месяцев назад

      Yes. Sgt McCabe should be the lead investigator

    • @hb19110
      @hb19110 7 месяцев назад

      Definately.

  • @josephk7954
    @josephk7954 7 месяцев назад +19

    This is the classic Argument from ignorance fallacy a.k.a. appeal to ignorance fallacy. We don't know who did it so it must have been Ian Bailey unless it can be proven otherwise(Also the burden of proof lies with the Guards - Bailey had a presumption of innocence).

  • @anthonyseymour1403
    @anthonyseymour1403 7 месяцев назад +45

    What I can't find out is, what evidence was there against him. All that I've heard is that he knew her and some people say he was obsessed with her. It seems that these days the press decide who's guilty and who's not guilty these days and their ethos is Who cares about 'Innocent unless proven guilty'. It's more important to have good headlined story.

    • @tacticalfoul1101
      @tacticalfoul1101 7 месяцев назад +1

      Watch the documentary

    • @xyzllii
      @xyzllii 7 месяцев назад +1

      Rubbish. Look deeply into the case as her parents did before blowing your out of tune cliched trumpet. I can't abide know alls who know nothing.

    • @philipwoodhouse4835
      @philipwoodhouse4835 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​​@@tacticalfoul1101 It's a hard sell to call that a documentary, it's as clickbait as possible with loads of sad randomers from Cork and a waster of an ex Garda wasting everyones time. It's closer to an episode of Eastenders just less tasteful for attention

    • @johnkelly3549
      @johnkelly3549 7 месяцев назад

      @@xyzlliiwell there was your opportunity to say something informative and no, not a thing to the contrary.

    • @lubumbashi6666
      @lubumbashi6666 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@xyzlliiI have looked VERY DEEPLY into the case, I have seen the Garda files, the "evidence" against him is all nonsense, it's all online, including the DPP's report from 2001 which blew it all apart. Now since 2001 Marie Farrell recanted, Patrick Lowney recanted (the guy who said he developed photos), we got to hear the Bandon tapes which proved the Gardai were stitching Bailey up. The case in 2015 was only lost because the State claimed it was statute barred. Bailey lost the libel case in 2003 because Marie Farrell lied in her statements, something the Gardai knew since 2002 but was hidden from Bailey's legal team. The list goes on, almost everything Senan Moloney says is either lies or he doesn't know it has been debunked. Remember all those Star articles that claimed Sophie had a "tangled love live" were bylined by Senan Moloney, so he wrote them with Bailey! Now he wants to shift the blame.

  • @Solus793
    @Solus793 7 месяцев назад +45

    Ian Bailey was an odd and flawed man, but being eccentric and having some demons doesn't make you guilty of being a killer.
    I don't really believe he did it, he is an easy person to pin a murder on though and that just isn't fair or right - if he was actually innocent the Gardai and media ruined his life.

    • @mrmc2465
      @mrmc2465 7 месяцев назад +4

      He is not innocent,the guy was rotten to the core showed all the signs of an individual who would do this sort of crime

    • @Therealprinceofcobh
      @Therealprinceofcobh 7 месяцев назад +9

      @@mrmc2465shut your mouth you know nothing.

    • @_alienblood
      @_alienblood 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Therealprinceofcobhyou need to see the documentary you won't be in any dought who did it

    • @rozdoyle8872
      @rozdoyle8872 7 месяцев назад +1

      I totally agree, they needed a distraction to hide the real killer who they couldn't expose and if Mr Bailey was a brutal killer he would have killed again ,instead he just bumbled around in the place he was supposed to have committed a shocking crime , I think his mouth wasn't in line with his brain, he was a perfect stooge for the Men who didn't want to face the truth.

    • @360nastybusiness
      @360nastybusiness 7 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@mrmc2465you knew him so? If no then stay silent

  • @random6809
    @random6809 7 месяцев назад +3

    It's funny when people say oh it was a quite place with nothing going on and all that nonsense. It was actually a hub for drug crime. One of the witnesses was actually busted years later for building a *bunker* for growing cannabis. Strangely he did not go to prison and it was around the time that this same witness suddenly "remembers" Bailey meeting Sophie, how convenient for the police eh?
    Alfie, Sophie's neighbour, was busted for growing it in his garden, it has been speculated that Sophie may have been the one who reported it to police.
    As for Sophie herself, the cold case investigation revealed that she had met with two French men there who were hiding out from organised crime.
    Yeah right, of course it was a quiet corner of Ireland...when will this nonsense stop being said?

  • @user-rz9pp8vc7t
    @user-rz9pp8vc7t 7 месяцев назад +4

    It's all circumstantial. Nobody knows for definite. We dont know who was in the house with her that night. She had only separated a short while before from her husband.

  • @lubumbashi6666
    @lubumbashi6666 7 месяцев назад +5

    I have looked deeply into the case. There are hundreds of Garda files, court transcripts and the Bandon Tapes, the DPP's report all online now. The "evidence" against Bailey is all nonsense. DPP's report written in 2001 blew it all apart when it was leaked in 2011. Now since 2001 Marie Farrell recanted, Patrick Lowney recanted (the guy who said he developed photos), we got to hear the Bandon tapes which proved the Gardai were stitching Bailey up. The GSOC report showed that pages were deliberately ripped out of the Gardai jobs book right after Bailey was declared a suspect and dozens of exhibits were "lost" including Bailey's famous black coat (which was taken in evidence, not burned or bleached) and the 14 foot blood spattered gate. The case in 2015 was only lost because the State claimed it was statute barred. Bailey lost the libel case in 2003 because Marie Farrell lied in her statements, something the Gardai knew since 2002 but was hidden from Bailey's legal team. The list goes on, almost everything Senan Moloney says is either lies or he doesn't know it has been debunked. Remember all those Star articles that claimed Sophie had a "tangled love live" were bylined by Senan Moloney, so he wrote them with Bailey! Now he wants to shift the blame.

    • @user-rh1nq1tz4c
      @user-rh1nq1tz4c 7 месяцев назад +1

      I am from West Cork, Everyone around here knows it was a Garda by the name of John Donnelly.

    • @lubumbashi6666
      @lubumbashi6666 7 месяцев назад

      @@user-rh1nq1tz4c I don't believe that for a moment. I researched this too. I believe it was a rumour started by a certain Walter Mitty type fantasist living in Bantry. The Garda was real, and maybe he was an unsavory type but he has no connection to the investigation. He retired in 1995 and was an old man by then. Sophie simply didn't associate with Irish people, except to hire people or buy things in shops.
      The whole "deathbed confession" idea is suspect from the start. It was supposedly given to someone who died and told someone else who also is also dead and that person's family deny it completely.
      Famous murders always attract stories like this. There are over 100 "deathbed confessions" to the Black Dahlia murder.

    • @lubumbashi6666
      @lubumbashi6666 6 месяцев назад

      @@user-rh1nq1tz4c I looked into that and traced it to a fantasist who spread that rumour around Bantry. The Garda was retired by then, had no connection to the area or to the victim.

  • @user-rz9pp8vc7t
    @user-rz9pp8vc7t 7 месяцев назад +6

    Some say in the locality it was a policeman that was involved but like blaming Bailey it's all heresay whether a policeman or Bailey.

  • @helendaly3311
    @helendaly3311 7 месяцев назад +7

    My theory from the very beginning was the xhusband got a hit man to do it.!! We must remember he never came to Ireland for the removal back to France thats says it all. Why would a woman on her own want to spend Xmas on her own??? She was obviously running from someone!!! Here's hoping the truth will come out someday. 🤞🤞

  • @priscillagallagher7325
    @priscillagallagher7325 7 месяцев назад +3

    Incorrect. It defiinitely was not Ian Bailey

  • @garyjordan7158
    @garyjordan7158 7 месяцев назад +4

    Who's this guy? And how much have the Guards paid him?

  • @frankdooley6451
    @frankdooley6451 7 месяцев назад +26

    Very unfair to a dead man, they had absolutely no concrete evidence he did it. Maybe he did or maybe he didn't but surely with modern forensics they would have found something belong to him seeing such violence was inflicted on her.

    • @mrmc2465
      @mrmc2465 7 месяцев назад +3

      Some perspective please Unfair is when a woman gets murdered out of the blue. Bailey is very lucky the guards were so shambolic

    • @vestibulate
      @vestibulate 7 месяцев назад +9

      @@mrmc2465 "Bailey is very lucky the guards were so shambolic" Lucky? If they'd been half-way competent and honest, Bailey would never have been put through the years of persecution by police and media.

    • @random6809
      @random6809 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@mrmc2465
      Had the Guards not been so shambolic they may have caught the actual murderer.

  • @johnkelly3549
    @johnkelly3549 7 месяцев назад +4

    Wasn’t it the same tunnel-vision that absolutely derailed the initial investigation?

    • @random6809
      @random6809 7 месяцев назад

      Indeed, lessons clearly not learnt. It would not surprise me if the cold case has made the same error.

  • @anirishleprechaun8202
    @anirishleprechaun8202 7 месяцев назад +3

    Du planter was killed by her producer husband. She knew too much about him

  • @Glenrsi
    @Glenrsi 7 месяцев назад +3

    Cannot agree he was guilty. Absolute poorly handled investigation.

  • @jayuppercase3398
    @jayuppercase3398 7 месяцев назад +5

    I like how he didn't let evidence get in the way

  • @Trinket_Master
    @Trinket_Master 7 месяцев назад +2

    Maybe he did, maybe he didnt.
    All I know is theres just as good a chance hes innocent as guilty thanks to the huge lack of evidence against him.
    That to me says theres a mighty chance the media has just ruined this mans life and hes spent the last few decades being harassed, bullied and labelled as a criminal

  • @Veronica705
    @Veronica705 7 месяцев назад +21

    My husband said could they take a DNA sample from Ian Bailey now that he's dead and see if it's a match for the DNA on one of the two wine glasses that were found at the scene?
    I don't know whether Ian Bailey was guilty or innocent. The police did not have sufficient evidence to bring him to trial. I have always said that if that man was actually innocent, his whole life was ruined.

    • @adrianmacgrath5814
      @adrianmacgrath5814 7 месяцев назад +8

      he was innocent. How do we know? Because the case against him was so shit the DPP wouldn't go near it

    • @smith5796
      @smith5796 7 месяцев назад +1

      Very interesting

    • @johnbrennan7764
      @johnbrennan7764 7 месяцев назад +5

      They could have got his DNA at any time. It would suit the concocted case they were trying to pin on him.

    • @viffer8honda319
      @viffer8honda319 7 месяцев назад +2

      they have his DNA but its not admissable because one of the garda let him on the scene as he was a reporter.

    • @derekdempsey8506
      @derekdempsey8506 7 месяцев назад

      @@viffer8honda319 now you have it,can you tell that to John Brennan for me

  • @giotto263
    @giotto263 7 месяцев назад +5

    Ireland was his prison, the only way he could escape was by being turned to ash. Isn't that enough?

  • @liamdoran9223
    @liamdoran9223 7 месяцев назад +13

    Innocent until proven otherwise. Daniel's assassin killed her

  • @marianmurphy4625
    @marianmurphy4625 7 месяцев назад +2

    He didn't. Not at all. There's no proof that he did. The woman who said she saw him there admitted that she lied

    • @hb19110
      @hb19110 7 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly. The Guards made her.

    • @marianmurphy4625
      @marianmurphy4625 7 месяцев назад +1

      @hb19110 I met a guard who came on the scene who said to me that, in his opinion, it was a robbery gone wrong

    • @marianmurphy4625
      @marianmurphy4625 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@hb19110 She should have had some punishment for that, also for wasting police time on such a serious matter, and misleading police

  • @fuzzy1237
    @fuzzy1237 7 месяцев назад +31

    Garda had involvement in this
    He was innocent

    • @theresanolan1157
      @theresanolan1157 7 месяцев назад +1

      indeed

    • @Unborn-Stillborn
      @Unborn-Stillborn 7 месяцев назад +3

      We await your proof ...

    • @Maconnaith
      @Maconnaith 7 месяцев назад +1

      Sure he was

    • @LeoLynch-yg7vo
      @LeoLynch-yg7vo 7 месяцев назад +3

      Gardai fucked it up alright but that doesn't automatically mean he was innocent.

    • @TheM41a
      @TheM41a 7 месяцев назад

      @@Unborn-Stillborn The bloodstained gate that mysteriously went missing is all the proof you need.

  • @freedomunltd
    @freedomunltd 6 месяцев назад +3

    Absolute despicable commentary when Ian Bailey was an innocent man framed for this hideous crime!

  • @theredseventhousand
    @theredseventhousand 7 месяцев назад +2

    I've been told by two gardaí friends that it was a Garda who killed her, and the entire Force knows this...

  • @jimmyfitz8168
    @jimmyfitz8168 7 месяцев назад +16

    The talk in the area was that it was a retired philandering garda sergeant killed her thus the need to blame the "weirdo" Ian Bailey for her death.

    • @unasperanza9803
      @unasperanza9803 7 месяцев назад +2

      yup heard that too from a guy who has second home and businesses there the locals always said it .

    • @hb19110
      @hb19110 7 месяцев назад +1

      Also heard that. Hense evidence cover up and an innocent victim Bailey used to detract attention from him. False evidence from garda victims later detracted shows cover up.

  • @eamonnbyrne8400
    @eamonnbyrne8400 7 месяцев назад +17

    This whole case was a mess from the start and to me it was done that way to cover for someone who the cops knew was guilty..Ian Bailey was persecuted ever since the start because he was an easy target and the cops even got the shopkeeper to say she seen him near the crime scene howling at the moon all the while she was having an affair with another cop and would never reveal his name.Did they ever question the ex-husband.Maybe the killer was sent from France?

    • @vestibulate
      @vestibulate 7 месяцев назад +6

      @eamonnbyrne8400 From an early point in what looked like a deliberately bungled investigation, I had the same feeling, that the Guards were protecting someone by casting false suspicion onto Bailey, the outsider.

  • @marylou3601
    @marylou3601 7 месяцев назад +3

    If your innocence was at stake how quiet would you be?

  • @windowledge731
    @windowledge731 7 месяцев назад +7

    The man is deceased now so let him rest! If he is guilty he will be judged accordingly by the lord, no one has a right to judge him in life or in death, judge no lest not ye be judged Matthew 7/1 May he Rest In Peace.

  • @TopG-lu1hq
    @TopG-lu1hq 7 месяцев назад +3

    It was the local Gate seller who done it

  • @fitzerelli1
    @fitzerelli1 7 месяцев назад +11

    What if it was a local guard who did it?

    • @unasperanza9803
      @unasperanza9803 7 месяцев назад +3

      Who is also dead now but the coverup would destroy faith in police force and media etc..

  • @martymartin2894
    @martymartin2894 7 месяцев назад +3

    This guy looked a bit odd but i have a stong feeling he was innocent and this shouldn't even be brought up now after he just died.

  • @vestibulate
    @vestibulate 7 месяцев назад +6

    The hacks and Guards egged each other on in the hounding to death of someone who was, in all likelihood, innocent of this crime. And they're still at it. Still at it, even now.

  • @davidbamford1971
    @davidbamford1971 6 месяцев назад +2

    This isn't the Usa where trials are decided by the media.
    Its unbelievably arrogant of the journalist to say he knows better than the Dpp what happened.
    I think Bailey was his own worse enemy and he had a big mouth, but if the journalist was so sure why didn’t he say it directly to Bailey, god knows Bailey was on the media often enough.
    Nobody apart from the killer ( whether he is still living or not) what the truth is.
    There isnt an ounce of direct evidence against Ian Bailey. The case was subject to expert independent analysis by a former Dpp, which found there was no evidence to charge Bailey.
    I trust those finding more that the rantings of this disingenuous journalist.

    • @random6809
      @random6809 6 месяцев назад +4

      Indeed, the DPP are the prosecution. If they say that the evidence just is not there, people should be listening. Why would legal experts in the prosecution tear apart their own case unless they truly believed it was nonsense?

  • @supernova101010
    @supernova101010 7 месяцев назад +2

    Sophie knew her killer. It wasnt Bailey

  • @JohnJKelly-of4dc
    @JohnJKelly-of4dc 7 месяцев назад +2

    Well...he can't defend himself now, can he. So you'll lie away. Nobody believes you sir..only fools..perhaps it was you...who knows

  • @misaeire
    @misaeire 7 месяцев назад +3

    No evidence to say he was guilty ,dpp would not go ahead with a case against him ,amazing all these journalists coming out now after the man has died let him.rest in peace his maker has judged him ,we have no right to judge anyone

  • @emmaelwood9939
    @emmaelwood9939 7 месяцев назад +4

    One thing being suspicious of someone, having the evidence to prove it is another, before anyone gets all high and mighty I'm not defending him but you only have to look at the corruption within An Garda Siochana and how they handled the investigation along with the shopkeeper who lied and her romance with a member of the force, Bailey was an easy target and they pinned him.

    • @random6809
      @random6809 7 месяцев назад +2

      You only have to read the 2001 DPP report to understand how the "evidence" is no such thing!

  • @gerry6420
    @gerry6420 7 месяцев назад +2

    So he thinks Ian did it because he looked at him and thought he was of the size of a fella that could have done it…. What a load of shit.

  • @kavalogue
    @kavalogue 7 месяцев назад +22

    Guards killed her

  • @user-rz9pp8vc7t
    @user-rz9pp8vc7t 7 месяцев назад +4

    All these newspaper men are now coming out public to blame Bailey without real proof when he is dead and cannot defend himself.

    • @hb19110
      @hb19110 7 месяцев назад +1

      They get paid to speak. It is about money and the dead cannot sue. Hope Baileys solicitor will sue them on behalf of Baileys sister in UK

  • @memorywarrior8752
    @memorywarrior8752 4 месяца назад +1

    Well shur if an Irish journalist says he's guilty we don't need to worry about things like actual evidence. We all trust Irish journalists right?

    • @JackBurton-qp4hc
      @JackBurton-qp4hc 4 месяца назад

      But the Irish police said he was guilty and they are never wrong.....oh wait....

  • @andrewmoran357
    @andrewmoran357 7 месяцев назад +4

    this is like after Jimmy Savilles death they all come out and say yeah we knew he was weird and guilty of this and that

    • @maymalone1505
      @maymalone1505 7 месяцев назад +5

      Savile was guilty of This and plenty of That!!!😮

    • @marywoolley3329
      @marywoolley3329 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@maymalone1505yes, but why didn't those, who spoke so vociferously about his guilt after his death, speak up before he died?

  • @seamusmalone8892
    @seamusmalone8892 7 месяцев назад +19

    IF the Garda checked the passinger list on the plane that Sophie traveled in on and checked the returne flight they would have found the murderer.

    • @finolaomurchu8217
      @finolaomurchu8217 7 месяцев назад +5

      It's odd she there on her own. Just before Christmas like that.

    • @hb19110
      @hb19110 7 месяцев назад +1

      That french man near her house returned to France day after her death. Died of cancer within a yr. Rumoured he was following her for two days.

    • @random6809
      @random6809 7 месяцев назад

      @@hb19110
      George Pecout the man from Marseille.

  • @Faigh_as
    @Faigh_as 7 месяцев назад +4

    I met Ian and jules a few years ago and both were really friendly. Jules seemed quite subdued, though, and Ian the opposite.

  • @hb19110
    @hb19110 7 месяцев назад +2

    INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN THE IRISH JUSTICE SYSTEM. I HOPE THAT IS ALWAYS FOREMOST DELIVERED BY MEDIA TO DETRACTERS WISHING FOR SOME KING OF FINANCIAL POPULARITY NOTICE.

  • @rosemarymccarron3887
    @rosemarymccarron3887 7 месяцев назад +2

    We will never know the truth.

  • @random6809
    @random6809 7 месяцев назад +3

    Where's Brian McGinley @brianmcginley2743?
    He's usually quick to reply to my comments accusing me of being Ian Bailey. I wonder why the sad little troll isn't replying....

  • @adrianshjadesheehan9991
    @adrianshjadesheehan9991 7 месяцев назад +4

    Not guilty until proven guilty

  • @ShiftDrift-kh6wb
    @ShiftDrift-kh6wb 7 месяцев назад +4

    This is libel

    • @smith5796
      @smith5796 7 месяцев назад

      Ian Bailey is Dead

  • @seamuscashin2606
    @seamuscashin2606 7 месяцев назад +6

    if it was a a guy from france did the guards check cork airport movements just a thought

    • @johnkenny694
      @johnkenny694 7 месяцев назад +2

      They came over on the Ferry.

    • @pilgrim3387
      @pilgrim3387 7 месяцев назад +3

      ​@johnkenny694 so they probably checked the airport not the ferry.😂

    • @hb19110
      @hb19110 7 месяцев назад +1

      That french man died and was dieing when he visited Sophy,s area in Cork. He was seen there. He died about yr later before Garda could question him. He knew something as he returned to France day after Sophy,s death. Having travelled on same plane with Sophy but not together obciously.

  • @catherineoconnell3213
    @catherineoconnell3213 7 месяцев назад +15

    PROPAGANDA PROGRAMMING
    MARY BOYLE - longest missing child in eire history
    COVER UP ongoing.....
    23/01/2024

    • @Veronica705
      @Veronica705 7 месяцев назад +4

      Everyone knows that Mary Boyle's uncle S.A.d and killed her, Mary's twin Ann said that Mary was feisty and waas about to tell what was going on, then her uncle brings Mary into the fields and Mary "disappeared." Nobody "disappears." Mary's body was buried in that place.
      R.I.P. Mary 💔

  • @rightiswrongrightiswrong806
    @rightiswrongrightiswrong806 7 месяцев назад +2

    As always, follow the money.

  • @johnpgallagher2206
    @johnpgallagher2206 7 месяцев назад +2

    whoes that bollocks thats juge jury and executaner

  • @johnpgallagher2206
    @johnpgallagher2206 7 месяцев назад +2

    the gate lasent lost it was melted down for scrap form your own view there it was not bailed got the cash for the scrap metal

  • @johnkenny694
    @johnkenny694 7 месяцев назад +1

    You should'nt fuck around with Married women.

  • @user-rs4rw6oo3v
    @user-rs4rw6oo3v 7 месяцев назад +12

    Let the man rest in peace! He always said he never did it or even knew her! That enough!

  • @kathleenkeane4364
    @kathleenkeane4364 7 месяцев назад

    What happened to Patrick Nugent at Bunratty Castle in Clare. Is any one shocked with that?

  • @Goldenfawn
    @Goldenfawn 7 месяцев назад +10

    It was arranged from France, here a coward speaks, in with the in.

  • @ec3076
    @ec3076 7 месяцев назад +4

    Locals know nothing of course.

    • @mpat100
      @mpat100 7 месяцев назад +4

      they know

  • @kyarichards2894
    @kyarichards2894 7 месяцев назад +2

    They cannot say it wasn't a stranger or wandering lunatic. How can they know that?

    • @random6809
      @random6809 7 месяцев назад

      Correct, there were reports of holiday homes being burgled.

  • @Timmo95
    @Timmo95 7 месяцев назад

    I know the story well but some context here would be good

  • @mrsmacca126
    @mrsmacca126 7 месяцев назад +5

    I was OBSESSED with this case and felt very conflicted. Then I read “ MURDER AT ROARINGBROOK and Michael Sheriden’s account of Sophie’s murder. No doubt in my mind that IAN MURDERED HER.

    • @johnbrennan7764
      @johnbrennan7764 7 месяцев назад +10

      Your obsession has led to very poor judgement. A thing called evidence is vital when proposing any conclusions.

    • @vestibulate
      @vestibulate 7 месяцев назад +1

      @mrsmacca126 That's the difference between a sober assessment by the DPP and sensationalist accounts published to make a fast buck (pardon the Americanism, but that's the model these hacks emulate).

    • @annoleary387
      @annoleary387 7 месяцев назад +1

      It was very strange that Ian Bailey drove to the area above Sophie's house and told Jules that he felt something like a sense about that night. The next day they found Sophie's body. I think he knew exactly who she was, maybe planned to visit her that night but she rebuffed his advances and he killed her in a drunken rage. The truth is buried with both of them now😢

    • @gulfstream7235
      @gulfstream7235 7 месяцев назад +5

      You're obsession in block capitals is the real culprit.

    • @lubumbashi6666
      @lubumbashi6666 7 месяцев назад +1

      Unfortunately that book is full of lies and innuendo. If you want to really see understand you should read the DPP's report. Then remember this was written before Marie Farrell recanted, before the Bandon Tapes, where it was shown that the Gardai gave drugs to Martin Graham, before the GSOC report etc. If you want to know how badly Foster lies, read the bit about he says Bailey confessed but "the camera wasn't running". Well in fact, Jim Sheridan's team were present and recording audio and he played it (its on Blindboy's podcast somewhere). Bailey doesn't confess, it is the opposite of a confession. Foster is just another grifter making money off the murder.

  • @maymalone1505
    @maymalone1505 7 месяцев назад +4

    THE Scratches that Bailey said he got from x mas tree branches, and killing a turkey, Very suspect😮

    • @hb19110
      @hb19110 7 месяцев назад +2

      He is a farmer. He had several hens. He was always cutting and fixing in his land. If you pick ip a turkey she is going to resist. If you walk through branches they fly back and hit you. Then why did Garda not swab for dna.? At that time Bailey was questioned at Garda station. He was seen leaving and not guilty then as he was not put in cell for questioning . The Garda were on the blame game on an English man with no family in this country. A man hit his wife in uk having taken alcohol does not make him a murdered but gives him a bad reputation. hitting Jewels while in alcoholic state is bad but he is no murderer. Jewels said recently she knows he did NOT do it and she was living with him and is no fool and is currently sueing for defemation of early questioning by Garda.

    • @random6809
      @random6809 7 месяцев назад +1

      @maymalone1505
      Jules' daughter gave a statement that she witnessed Bailey climbing and topping the tree, she also stated that the scratches were before the murder. A neighbour witnessed him dragging the tree home. The turkey was a hairline scratch, nothing of any note.
      A dermatologist saw Bailey some time (a week maybe?) after the murder and gave a statement that she did not see any scratches. Scratches that disappear so quickly are unlikely to be deep from razor sharp briars during a frenzied attack and more like to be light from a tree.
      The fact that they were witnessed BEFORE the murder means they aren't from the briars. So no, not very suspect at all when you know the facts and not the BS.

  • @Camcolito
    @Camcolito 7 месяцев назад

    Who cares.

    • @mpat100
      @mpat100 7 месяцев назад

      not you

    • @Camcolito
      @Camcolito 7 месяцев назад

      @@mpat100 Correctomundo!!

    • @unasperanza9803
      @unasperanza9803 7 месяцев назад

      miscarriage of justice and trial by Media should concern everyone

    • @jimmyobrien8738
      @jimmyobrien8738 7 месяцев назад

      I do

    • @Camcolito
      @Camcolito 7 месяцев назад

      @@jimmyobrien8738 Come on now, you don't really, let's be honest.

  • @scotty101ire
    @scotty101ire 7 месяцев назад +3

    As Tony Soprano would say , Why don,t you keep your opinions where ever the fuck and stick to what you know or can prove

  • @user-eq8ui4ln4f
    @user-eq8ui4ln4f 7 месяцев назад +7

    Nobody knows only the killer

    • @treborsirrah7916
      @treborsirrah7916 7 месяцев назад +5

      No sh#t Sherlock

    • @hb19110
      @hb19110 7 месяцев назад

      They all know Bailey was framed! No evidence against him.