Danny is a bloke who handles the initial findings about his great grandmother with compassion. It is a joy to see his delight when the extraordinary tale of his forebears is unearthed. To all those begrudging people who carp on that his heritage is no big deal and that ‘everyone is related to royalty’ should reflect that there have been just one or two other people on UK WDYTYA who have found out that they were related to Edward the 3rd and they were toffs in the first place. The whiners should review the video and note how impressed the historians and genealogists are at Danny’s bloodline. It can’t be that common if they are reacting this way. Good on the geezer! He’s funny and personable.
harriette2000 Everyone is related to royalty. 99% of Britons are descendants of Edward III and 100% of Europeans are directly related Charles I due to his excessive affairs and marriages leading to 18 children who all went on to have ten of their own etc. However, the reason that Danny Dyer’s bloodline is so extraordinary is the fact that he is also related to some of the greatest Brits in history, such as the Seymour and Cromwell family and also Louis XI of France and William the Conqueror.
Six Degrees of Separation absolutely applies to genealogy, but that doesn't make Danny Dyer's family history any less cool. It just makes everyone's history potentially amazing.
Oh my, I have to say, a week ago I had no idea who Danny Dyer is. I start watching his journey of discovery of his family history, understanding only every other word, but I am a new fan from across the pond! I feel for Danny when he stops to think of his journey and then learns of his roots, it's truly inspiring :) Cheers Danny 'Earl of Essex', from Canada
Hi, i also am decended from edward the 3rd -& the 4th a little further down the line so we're cousins many times removed or what ever you call it.were family
Love listening to Danny's family history that is peopled with oodles of well-known folk & royals. Danny may not be rich in money, but is rich in family history!
Please remember that Richard Cromwell and Oliver Cromwell belong to the same family - they were collaterally related. Therefore Danny Dyer is also collaterally related to Oliver Cromwell.
I'm also descended from the Cromwell's and to be honest it's never been something to be proud of. We can go back many centuries, and while I have a passion for history, being descended from the Nobility and Kings isn't that special; as my brother says "for every gentle born family, there were some real bastards who got them there."
It’s more impressive to be a descendant of a famous person or something from the Victorian era because they have way less descendants than someone from medieval times. For example, being a descendant of Charles dickens is imo way more cool and exciting than being a descendant of one of the old kings
@@nayten0324 I agree. I'm descended from quite a few ancient kings - me and about a million other people ha ha. It comes with a few really neat stories, but I'd rather have Charles Dickens :)
It's strange how people on these comments who see it as not really a big deal, are the ones who have made an effort to search through hundreds of years of ancestry to find some form of nobility! Average generation is 25 and then your ancestor number doubles every generation, that's a lot of people.
@@cambs0181 Really, you seem to have your knickers in quite the knot there. tut tut. You are assuming I searched through hundreds of years to find some form of nobility? Whilst it is interesting to know the path of ones lines through time, not all is research. Many families, mine included, have always known. The Cromwell were the low men on the totem pole as far as nobility is concerned. Just because someone is renowned, it doesn't make him noble. Obviously, there are scores of people descended. I really don't know what point you are trying to make other than you think I need to be taken down a notch. LOL Did that brighten your day sweetheart?
I'm directly descended from the first Earl of Pembroke. He was married to King Edward IIIs daughter, Margaret in 1359. I also seem to have a direct connection to Queen Anne Boleyn if the ancestry is correct.
You know... actually, thinking about Cromwell from 15th Century Putney as a bit Danny Dyer-like but also super competent at governace sort of helps you understand why a man like Henry VIII might have liked him and how he had the charisma and physical toughness to rise as high as he did. If Thomas Cromwell was more like Dyer than he was like Mark Rylance in Wolf Hall... you know I can still see it working.
Make no mistake Danny: your ancestor was better educated and sharper than all the Lords thrown together and everybody knew it and disliked it. May I suggest Hilary Mantel's award-winning triptych of novels - she gets under the skin and psyche of her subjects and her take on Cromwell is extraordinary.
Those " Lords" came from " good families of the elite" while Cromwell had " wit" Yup that generates resentments from those who felt Cromwell did not " belong", as Cromwell is from a commoner descent.
@@ds1868 It actually is special because Danny descends from Edward III in a direct, legitimate line. Most people are descendants of royal bastards or natural children of distant royal relatives.
This assumes a simplified model where there is no intermarriage between family lines and no shared ancestors due to common ancestry. In reality, due to intermarriage within communities and populations, many of your ancestors from different lines could be related to each other. In my case, especially as it gets to nobility, my families are certainly intertwined. My 12th and 15th great-grandparents were cousins.
Cromwell was a grubby, greedy courtier like all the others. You could admire him for rising from nothing based on his ability, but it's hard to forgive him for falsely accusing Anne Boleyn of incest, adultery and treason. He played with fire, pulled down a queen, and got burned forcing Henry to marry another one. Eye for an eye, I'd say.
Although Cromwell absolutely orchestrated the plot, and deserves the blame in that way, I’d say Henry also deserves a good deal of blame in that equation. I don’t think Cromwell would’ve done it without the kings permission. And tbh I think he was a good deal better in some ways than many of the other noblemen. He tried to do a lot for the common people, which is more than can be said for the rest of them
@@francesca9423I have a feeling Henry wanted another annulment, but Cromwell wanted Anne dead, both to make sure she couldn’t cause trouble for Henry, but also for himself. And let’s not forget that the main falling out Anne had with Cromwell was that he wanted the spoils from the monestaries to go to the king, his cronies, and himself. Anne actually wanted the money to go to hospitals, colleges and other civic institutions that could help the poor. I don’t see Cromwell as caring too much for the common man, sorry to say. If he was, he wouldn’t have orchestrated the downfall of a queen who actually was acting for the people.
@@graphiquejack a lot of academics disagree with you on that actually - Henry pushed for execution, he wanted her dead, not the other way around. Also Cromwell did want money to go to the king, yes, and there was corruption absolutely, but he also wanted monasteries to stay open as colleges, he didn’t want them all closed, and he also wanted money to go to social reform. The poor laws he had drafted do factor in the replacement of the social services the monasteries provided. His role in the dissolutions is much more complicated than the simple conceptualisation you described allows for. I could also bore you with a whole list of policies he implemented/tried to implement for the poor, and a lot of good he did/tried to do, but then this comment would get way too long. Like even the people he patronised/his court circle were made up of the ‘commonwealth men’ interested in social policies. It’s not his fault some of the more major changes he pushed for didn’t get through parliament. And his argument with Anne (although that was part of it) is more complicated than solely the issue of monastic funds. But yeah I wouldn’t say he cared for the common people, social reform, and education if there wasn’t plenty of evidence for it - even his contemporaries remarked on it, and lamented the loss of that after his death. none of the other ministers seemed to have cared as much
It's all pretty amazing until you calculate that, with a conservative estimate of 4 children per generation going on to have kids of their own, Cromwell would have over a quarter billion descendants (4 to the 14th power), so every single person in the UK would be a descendant through four different intertwined branches.
But many of our ancestors appear more than once in our family tree - they married cousins, close or distant. For example, the late Queen and Prince Philip were both descended from Queen Victoria.
Wait so if hes related to henry III and Henry the XIII killed Cromwell doesnt that mean his ancestor killed his ancestor? Or were the Henry's not related?
I’ve always had a deep fascination with Anne Boleyn, which is why I’ve never liked Thomas Cromwell. I’ve always seen him as a villain. I guess there’s always two sides to every story though
Wouldnt feel to bad for Thomas Cromwell and his making on Tower Hill, he was the one who stitched up Anne Boleyn as well as the 5 other men that were hung drawn and quartered on false accusations of infidelity to Henry VIII.
In a portrait of Thomas Cromwell by Hans Holbein, Danny absolutely has inherited his ancestors eyes , and facial structure.
amazing resemblance
Danny is a bloke who handles the initial findings about his great grandmother with compassion. It is a joy to see his delight when the extraordinary tale of his forebears is unearthed. To all those begrudging people who carp on that his heritage is no big deal and that ‘everyone is related to royalty’ should reflect that there have been just one or two other people on UK WDYTYA who have found out that they were related to Edward the 3rd and they were toffs in the first place. The whiners should review the video and note how impressed the historians and genealogists are at Danny’s bloodline. It can’t be that common if they are reacting this way. Good on the geezer! He’s funny and personable.
harriette2000 Everyone is related to royalty. 99% of Britons are descendants of Edward III and 100% of Europeans are directly related Charles I due to his excessive affairs and marriages leading to 18 children who all went on to have ten of their own etc. However, the reason that Danny Dyer’s bloodline is so extraordinary is the fact that he is also related to some of the greatest Brits in history, such as the Seymour and Cromwell family and also Louis XI of France and William the Conqueror.
@@jamessimpson6971 those sound like definitive stats their James.
@@jamessimpson6971 People say that but I do not believe it is true. My lines are all humble origins to the early 1600s so far.
@@jamessimpson6971 nah
Six Degrees of Separation absolutely applies to genealogy, but that doesn't make Danny Dyer's family history any less cool. It just makes everyone's history potentially amazing.
I love his voice. So soft and sonorous.
Oh my, I have to say, a week ago I had no idea who Danny Dyer is. I start watching his journey of discovery of his family history, understanding only every other word, but I am a new fan from across the pond! I feel for Danny when he stops to think of his journey and then learns of his roots, it's truly inspiring :) Cheers Danny 'Earl of Essex', from Canada
Hi, i also am decended from edward the 3rd -& the 4th a little further down the line so we're cousins many times removed or what ever you call it.were family
Love listening to Danny's family history that is peopled with oodles of well-known folk & royals. Danny may not be rich in money, but is rich in family history!
It’s still amazing that he can trace his relatives this far!
We must remember that they are talking about Thomas Cromwell NOT Oliver
Susan Carroll do people seriously not know the difference lmao
@@fatemaq363 As a British dual citizen living in Canada, I have never heard of either
OldSoulMillennial Then you are sadly under educated.
Please remember that Richard Cromwell and Oliver Cromwell belong to the same family - they were collaterally related. Therefore Danny Dyer is also collaterally related to Oliver Cromwell.
@@MsBhappy Oliver Cromwell lead the armies of parlament against the king during the english civil war.
The guy looks like he reeks power look at the eyes faaark
The resemblance is phenomenal
Hilarious. 'In a way I'm sort of the Earl of Essex '. Go on Danny!
This is the best example of getting to really understand w/full appreciation who enflueced your DNA.
I CRY FOR MERCY MERCY MERCY -- man, that ALWAYS wrecks me. Poor Cromwell.
I'm also descended from the Cromwell's and to be honest it's never been something to be proud of. We can go back many centuries, and while I have a passion for history, being descended from the Nobility and Kings isn't that special; as my brother says "for every gentle born family, there were some real bastards who got them there."
It’s more impressive to be a descendant of a famous person or something from the Victorian era because they have way less descendants than someone from medieval times. For example, being a descendant of Charles dickens is imo way more cool and exciting than being a descendant of one of the old kings
@@nayten0324 I agree. I'm descended from quite a few ancient kings - me and about a million other people ha ha. It comes with a few really neat stories, but I'd rather have Charles Dickens :)
It's strange how people on these comments who see it as not really a big deal, are the ones who have made an effort to search through hundreds of years of ancestry to find some form of nobility! Average generation is 25 and then your ancestor number doubles every generation, that's a lot of people.
@@cambs0181 Really, you seem to have your knickers in quite the knot there. tut tut. You are assuming I searched through hundreds of years to find some form of nobility? Whilst it is interesting to know the path of ones lines through time, not all is research. Many families, mine included, have always known. The Cromwell were the low men on the totem pole as far as nobility is concerned. Just because someone is renowned, it doesn't make him noble.
Obviously, there are scores of people descended. I really don't know what point you are trying to make other than you think I need to be taken down a notch. LOL Did that brighten your day sweetheart?
I'm a descendant too,
Thomas was my 15th great uncle.
Great vlog
Thomas Cromwell is my 15th great uncle making Danny my 17th cousin.
I'm directly descended from the first Earl of Pembroke. He was married to King Edward IIIs daughter, Margaret in 1359. I also seem to have a direct connection to Queen Anne Boleyn if the ancestry is correct.
When Anne said "Let them eat cake"🍰 She was giving them the very best flour to eat,the cake flour.👑
@Bookshelf Anne said "let them eat cake." I met her and she said it
I'm descended to Edward iii through his son John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster....that's providing if the ancestry is correct.
Me too. Through both Elizabeth Marshall and the De Clare Earls of Hertford and also through Eva Marshall.
Someone buy the man some Hilary Mantel books already.
I love those books!
I’m on the third one!
You know... actually, thinking about Cromwell from 15th Century Putney as a bit Danny Dyer-like but also super competent at governace sort of helps you understand why a man like Henry VIII might have liked him and how he had the charisma and physical toughness to rise as high as he did. If Thomas Cromwell was more like Dyer than he was like Mark Rylance in Wolf Hall... you know I can still see it working.
Super intelligent and evil of course
Wolf hall classic anti catholic twaddle is she dead now 🤪
Most gracious prince I cry for mercy mercy mercy
I'm excited to go back 6-7 generations, imagine 15!
It definitely is a delight, from my personal experience.
Danny is so sweet!
Make no mistake Danny: your ancestor was better educated and sharper than all the Lords thrown together and everybody knew it and disliked it. May I suggest Hilary Mantel's award-winning triptych of novels - she gets under the skin and psyche of her subjects and her take on Cromwell is extraordinary.
Those " Lords" came from " good families of the elite" while Cromwell had " wit"
Yup that generates resentments from those who felt Cromwell did not " belong", as Cromwell is from a commoner descent.
Wolf hall is just anti catholic twaddle 🤣 fiction
I really can't believe that Danny Dyer is royalty
No, but Danny Dyer is also descended from William the Conqueror
@@TopGunSGA most of us are descended from William the Conqueror. It's just a question of proving it. Nothing special about it at all
@@ds1868 It actually is special because Danny descends from Edward III in a direct, legitimate line. Most people are descendants of royal bastards or natural children of distant royal relatives.
@@ioannesimagiste200 well I'm a relative of oliver but surely a large percentage of the UK would be
I have been fascinated by Thomas Cromwell since I was about 11. I would be thrilled if I thought I was a descendant of his.
This bird defo has a soft spot for my dyer 😍😂
Your Dyer?
Danny Dyer is my favourite actor
He's a very poor actor!
Cool, I'm also related to the Cromwell's too.
We're all related, it's just a matter of going back through the lineage
Thomas Cromwell is a great grandfather of mine. Small world.
Oliver Cromwell is a great grandfather of mine on my grandmas side of them family
haydens life then that would make us distantly related! What part of the world are you from?
People need to watch the mini series wolf hall
I'm desscended from exiled nobility. Descendant of Baderon.
Sir Edward Neville beheaded at the the tower ,1538 My wife’s 13 great grandfather because he fell
out with Cromwell over who owned a priory in kent
Hope he goes to Hever Castle and sees his ancestor’s prayer book. His religious faith has been until recently underestimated.
Danny hardest man in fkn history ...related same as half the fkn country ..
Thomas Cromwell is in my family tree. So hello cousin
A person has 32,000 15th Great Grandfathers.
True, but knowing who a few of them are is better than knowing you have 32,000
This assumes a simplified model where there is no intermarriage between family lines and no shared ancestors due to common ancestry. In reality, due to intermarriage within communities and populations, many of your ancestors from different lines could be related to each other. In my case, especially as it gets to nobility, my families are certainly intertwined. My 12th and 15th great-grandparents were cousins.
Cromwell was a grubby, greedy courtier like all the others. You could admire him for rising from nothing based on his ability, but it's hard to forgive him for falsely accusing Anne Boleyn of incest, adultery and treason. He played with fire, pulled down a queen, and got burned forcing Henry to marry another one. Eye for an eye, I'd say.
I agree, GraphiqueJack.
Although Cromwell absolutely orchestrated the plot, and deserves the blame in that way, I’d say Henry also deserves a good deal of blame in that equation. I don’t think Cromwell would’ve done it without the kings permission.
And tbh I think he was a good deal better in some ways than many of the other noblemen. He tried to do a lot for the common people, which is more than can be said for the rest of them
@@francesca9423I have a feeling Henry wanted another annulment, but Cromwell wanted Anne dead, both to make sure she couldn’t cause trouble for Henry, but also for himself. And let’s not forget that the main falling out Anne had with Cromwell was that he wanted the spoils from the monestaries to go to the king, his cronies, and himself. Anne actually wanted the money to go to hospitals, colleges and other civic institutions that could help the poor. I don’t see Cromwell as caring too much for the common man, sorry to say. If he was, he wouldn’t have orchestrated the downfall of a queen who actually was acting for the people.
@@graphiquejack a lot of academics disagree with you on that actually - Henry pushed for execution, he wanted her dead, not the other way around.
Also Cromwell did want money to go to the king, yes, and there was corruption absolutely, but he also wanted monasteries to stay open as colleges, he didn’t want them all closed, and he also wanted money to go to social reform. The poor laws he had drafted do factor in the replacement of the social services the monasteries provided. His role in the dissolutions is much more complicated than the simple conceptualisation you described allows for.
I could also bore you with a whole list of policies he implemented/tried to implement for the poor, and a lot of good he did/tried to do, but then this comment would get way too long. Like even the people he patronised/his court circle were made up of the ‘commonwealth men’ interested in social policies. It’s not his fault some of the more major changes he pushed for didn’t get through parliament.
And his argument with Anne (although that was part of it) is more complicated than solely the issue of monastic funds.
But yeah I wouldn’t say he cared for the common people, social reform, and education if there wasn’t plenty of evidence for it - even his contemporaries remarked on it, and lamented the loss of that after his death. none of the other ministers seemed to have cared as much
Who would have thought it.
'kin A! Love this episode!
Thomas Cromwell is my 16th great grandfather
I like this man well connected like Boris Johnson
I loved Danny dyer what a legend !
Now London Bridge is in Lake Havasu, Arizona in America ....remind me not to walk on this bridge its probably haunted.
It's all pretty amazing until you calculate that, with a conservative estimate of 4 children per generation going on to have kids of their own, Cromwell would have over a quarter billion descendants (4 to the 14th power), so every single person in the UK would be a descendant through four different intertwined branches.
But many of our ancestors appear more than once in our family tree - they married cousins, close or distant. For example, the late Queen and Prince Philip were both descended from Queen Victoria.
@normawithers4447 Sure, but I think with the number being 4 times the current population, there is sufficient redundancy to account for that.
We a re cousins! Thomas Cromwell is my 13th Grand Uncle!!
Epic
❤️❤️❤️
Cromwell!! Yikes!
i Descend form the duke of Norfolk lol
Wait so if hes related to henry III and Henry the XIII killed Cromwell doesnt that mean his ancestor killed his ancestor? Or were the Henry's not related?
No, they weren’t.
I’ve always had a deep fascination with Anne Boleyn, which is why I’ve never liked Thomas Cromwell. I’ve always seen him as a villain. I guess there’s always two sides to every story though
She was just as bad as he was both revolutionaries
Both wanted to steal church land and money which acted like the social security for the poor
Dany looking up to god, hearing Cromwell father had a pub 🤣🙈..... Dany you dont have a real Pub. The cringe.
I.love dannydyer
Guy sounds posessed
Wouldnt feel to bad for Thomas Cromwell and his making on Tower Hill, he was the one who stitched up Anne Boleyn as well as the 5 other men that were hung drawn and quartered on false accusations of infidelity to Henry VIII.
The men weren’t hung, drawn and quartered - they were beheaded.
he orchestrated the charges, but I don’t think he would’ve done it if it wasn’t what Henry wanted
We should all say we have the female ancestors blood running through our veins , shouldn't we , that's how it actually works biologically .
So he’s related to Boris Johnson. 🐥💜🦋Average Global Temperature remains 14 degrees Centigrade since 1850.😎Your welcome.
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Once again
My moms dna came back Richard lll
Not these wanna bes
Looks more like me then anybody else
Don’t know much about Danny Dyer, not his fan... a lowbrow learns about his exceptional origins
What an unfortunate comment.
How incredibly rude!
Someone jealous? Lol
@@hanz090 yep. You nailed it I'd say.
Remainer plonker
Danny dyer has more economic knowledge than you, just think about that
babe...lmao