but what about if you have a lot of overlays, graphics, analyzed frames for anchors, then more RAM matters. Just rendering 4K with just trimming and clipping is not going to be the deciding factor here.
You write that both running XMP 3200. Your Taskmanager say 32 GB 2133 Mhz and 64 GB 2400. If XMP works in the Taskmanager you can read 3200 Mhz. In your case youve 32GB 2133 vs 64GB 2400 Mhz. So normal that 2400 is ~ 1 min faster. 2nd question what are the timings from both kits? Why I ask? Cause ram speed is good in programs like that. Good week
Brother need your suggestion to upgrade my laptop as it comes with 8gb ddr4 3200 mhz with 2 slot so currently upgraded to 16 gb ram now im looking to upgrade it to 64 gb ram ?
@@Cute_Nerdy im a editor and im using predator i5 8th gen gaming laptop it has 4 gb graphics 16 gb ram and 1tb hardrive, 128 gb ssd so what if i upgrade to 64gb ram or 128 bcz the editing software which i use is consume a lot and also for a single render of 2k resolution it took around 2 hours, so i thing if i upgrade ddr4 16gb ram to 64gb ? But in its menu mentioned that memory is expandable upto 32 ?
Rendering time is not as important as timeline performance, because this is where we spend most of our time as video editors. Too bad almost no one is testing that :(
@@TopDownTech hello, will a Rtx 3060 ti, i5 12600k and 32gb ram help my timeline performance be smooth, I am a editor and I cannot edit anymore as it takes me 20 seconds to watch 2 seconds of a footage. Please let me know! Thankyou.
Using 64 I noticed less system usage overall, it feels more snappy. I think 64 with 2x32gb ram is better long term so I can upgrade my system to 128gb as I have 2 spare slots as well. Good video.
Just thought I should share my experience here and also so I can look back on. I am not a compter compter person in any way, but I use it heavily for editing videos and sometimes 4k. I have a GPU 1050ti and 16gb of ram. This has worked fine for the hundreds of hours of editing, but as I have progressed and my job is assigning me more work to edit, the company gave me some animation to work with which came a problem and this is basic animation here folks. Mostly high quality 2D and rarely any 3D. When using after effects I would get a pop up message of "GPU out of ram" during rendering. I upgraded to a 32gb Ripjaws brand and although it was 10x faster, it failed again on the 2D animation render portion at the same spot/time as my 16gb did. AF said it was using 81% of the memory and needed more sooo... idk do I need to upgrade to 64 or just a corrupt animation? It's always the same and only 1 so far
I realise this response is too late but thought it might help others stumbling on this one. Your system RAM is not the problem here. As the error indicates, the VRAM (Video Memory) on your 1050 Ti GPU is not sufficient enough to handle certain aspects of the animation you're trying to process in After effects. In 2022, I'd suggest you to upgrade your GPU to something that offers a minimum of 8GB VRAM. To be more future proof, you should consider investing in higher end GPUs that offer 12, 16 or 24 GB RAM. Also, since you upgraded your system RAM to 32 GB, that's definitely a good upgrade that's been done here.
Also maybe someday you should try importing a hundred 4K footages with opened thumbnail cover on the video folder. Most likely you'll get "memory" problem because the RAM can't handle it. It could be a test somehow for 32 vs 64 GB RAM for the import timings till the thumbnail have been added.
Cool video, thanks for taking the time. Just some food for thought, Gamers Nexus did a segment on 2 sticks vs 4 sticks with the 5000 series Ryzen. Oddly enough, the 4 sticks netted around a 10% improvement over 2. Not something you normally think would be the case, but these processors seem to work better with 4 sticks of RAM.
Steve, it depends on if the RAM is single rank or dual-rank. The idea with 4 is to have 4 x ranks. 2 sticks that are dual-rank is essentially same. You also might run into possible timing issues the more sticks you have. 2 is going to give you more compatibility and overclocking ability than 4 sticks.
You can a lot some task while rendering too. So If you're using a 20gb on 64. You can still do some Adobe tasks like editing while rendering. So I think that's some advantage too.
64gb is not enough when you use premiere pro and after effects to put transition via dynamic link. But it depends. The GPU and CPU was just chilling while your Ram is near to get BSOD, while rendering.
Just rendering a 1080p video with a lengh of 3 min. My 64gb of ram were at 74% of it’s capacity and my gpu (rtx 2070) was barely at it’s 40% of usage. So with after effects i think is more important ram an ssd drive
Thank you for this. I have 32gb Corsair LPX 3600 ( 2 x 16gb) and another pack of 32 gb on the desk which I haven't installed yet. I have bought a corsair ram cooler too. DId you have any trouble running 4 sticks at once at optimal speed speed and did it affect system temps and stability?
Surprisingly while they do get hot if you touch them, the system ran smoothly. No issues with the 64gb setup and the mobo detected it running at optimum speeds.
Thanks for this review. My current system is a i9-9900K on a ASUS Prime Z-390A with 32GB of DDR4. I'm currently building a (new/old) system with a i9-12900KS. I plan on using a ASUS Strix Z-690 and install 64 GB of DDR5. I haven't decided on which graphics card to install on my system yet. Still researching. I saw about a 9 % gain in your rendering time and that was significant to me.
I got a "gaming laptop" i5 8gb ram and at first I had no issue since I only used it for word, powerpoint and chrome basically only school work. As of right now I still only use it for school work, no games or anything and I though if I had a "gaming laptop" It was sent going to lag but it's been lagging a lot lately. I literally don't install anything other than word documents, should I get more ram or what should I do, I'm not that well informed in laptops so I don't know what can help me. I'm up to date with updates and everything:/
it depends on the parts you will put together sir and which programs you'll be using. for example my PC at idle (not doing anything) sits around under 30watts. but when I'm gaming it can reach 300watts during graphics heavy scenes. But if you will put a graphics card and/or a CPU that isn't too power hungry, you can still get lower power consumption.
Sir I have a question I edit long videos using premiere pro that is only 1080p and it takes longer times it will take to 15 minutes to 1 hour. I have 16gb ram will I upgrade to 32gb?
More RAM does save time. This has been proven across several videos like this I've seen. The time saved 16GB vs. 32GB vs. 64 GB are noticeable, but you have to think about whether it's worth upgrading for the right price.
@@daniellorenceaparece4295 - Depends on factors. If your motherboard plays nicely with the RAM. Your BIOS is up to date and you DIDN'T get an extremely cheap costing/cheap quality board. Like I use G Skill, I'm cool with it the 3600 RAM has been used on Z690 chipset and different B550 and X570 boards. It's ok with them. If someone wants to really cushion their fall, look up the compatible RAM on the given tested list that comes with the board on it's website from the manufacturer. Right now I'm in the middle of making 3 systems and HONESTLY I don't need to make more then 1 (grunt)
@@rogue2791 - Depends on where you go. I shop to get the best for my money. Some people say, let me get the biggest piece of trash for the least amount spent - NOT a good philosophy, then they get mad at the results when testing the equipment. If I can buy something 30-50% lower then MSRP - then I'm a happy kid. I just wish Intel would stop making stupid pins and LARGE CPUs for their hardware - not a good combination at all, what so ever.
I want to ask you something about the CPU I have the same CPU 5900x with Asrock b550 taichi and all cores reach 4.3 GB when rendering and about 4.5 or 4.6 when I gaming I see a lot of people having a bigger number same as you all core 4.45 and turbo to 4.9 or 4.8 what should I do?
You must decide all core vs Single Core. Render programs use all cores same usage and games prefer any cores. At a 5900x you must check your bios what you can do for higher all core usage. For example ive a 5950x and if my programs go all core Ive 16 cores at 4.5 Ghz. For Information if you find your way for higher all core a good cooling for your cpu is important. I use a custom loop for max cpu and gpu. Next Month I upgrade to a mora 420 for better cooling my cpu.
@@KevinEdgar I see the same and write a new answer. Because if XMP 3200 works Taskmanager show it. In my case i use 3600 or IF1800 and my Taskmanager show me the same 3600 MHz. Higher ram speed are very good in render programs.
Also forgot to mention that I was running the RAM sticks on XMP (DOCP for ASUS) so both sticks were running at 3200mhz
but what about if you have a lot of overlays, graphics, analyzed frames for anchors, then more RAM matters. Just rendering 4K with just trimming and clipping is not going to be the deciding factor here.
You write that both running XMP 3200. Your Taskmanager say 32 GB 2133 Mhz and 64 GB 2400. If XMP works in the Taskmanager you can read 3200 Mhz. In your case youve 32GB 2133 vs 64GB 2400 Mhz. So normal that 2400 is ~ 1 min faster. 2nd question what are the timings from both kits? Why I ask? Cause ram speed is good in programs like that. Good week
@@Cute_Nerdy beat me to it lol and yes task manager reads ram properly in docp and xmp
Brother need your suggestion to upgrade my laptop as it comes with 8gb ddr4 3200 mhz with 2 slot so currently upgraded to 16 gb ram now im looking to upgrade it to 64 gb ram ?
@@Cute_Nerdy im a editor and im using predator i5 8th gen gaming laptop it has 4 gb graphics 16 gb ram and 1tb hardrive, 128 gb ssd so what if i upgrade to 64gb ram or 128 bcz the editing software which i use is consume a lot and also for a single render of 2k resolution it took around 2 hours, so i thing if i upgrade ddr4 16gb ram to 64gb ? But in its menu mentioned that memory is expandable upto 32 ?
Rendering time is not as important as timeline performance, because this is where we spend most of our time as video editors. Too bad almost no one is testing that :(
Yeah, i shouldve mentioned that my timeline was super smooth with 4k footages from a sony cam even at full res.
Yup, I can just walk away and do something else on a render. None issue. Only a few reviewers scrub though timeline
Muy de acuerdo con tigo.
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@@TopDownTech hello, will a Rtx 3060 ti, i5 12600k and 32gb ram help my timeline performance be smooth, I am a editor and I cannot edit anymore as it takes me 20 seconds to watch 2 seconds of a footage. Please let me know! Thankyou.
Lupet! Ganda ng video sir! Ay sorry, english pala to haha
“Great bidyo sir! Beri impormatib! Kip it ap!!”
Wahaha salamat sir. Nagamit ko agad yung nasabi mong settings sa display para matimpla ng maayos yung color grading nito! 💪🏻
ganda ng comparison ❤️❤️ may napulot nanamn ako ❤️
Using 64 I noticed less system usage overall, it feels more snappy. I think 64 with 2x32gb ram is better long term so I can upgrade my system to 128gb as I have 2 spare slots as well. Good video.
Bro u need at least 256 gb of ram
mobo doesn't support anything more than 128 :P
Lupet talaga mag explain eh! Niceeee
Nice video sir at maganda yun punto na mga sinabi nyo.
More power
Very interesting video!! 👍👍
Just thought I should share my experience here and also so I can look back on.
I am not a compter compter person in any way, but I use it heavily for editing videos and sometimes 4k. I have a GPU 1050ti and 16gb of ram. This has worked fine for the hundreds of hours of editing, but as I have progressed and my job is assigning me more work to edit, the company gave me some animation to work with which came a problem and this is basic animation here folks. Mostly high quality 2D and rarely any 3D.
When using after effects I would get a pop up message of "GPU out of ram" during rendering. I upgraded to a 32gb Ripjaws brand and although it was 10x faster, it failed again on the 2D animation render portion at the same spot/time as my 16gb did. AF said it was using 81% of the memory and needed more sooo... idk do I need to upgrade to 64 or just a corrupt animation? It's always the same and only 1 so far
I realise this response is too late but thought it might help others stumbling on this one.
Your system RAM is not the problem here. As the error indicates, the VRAM (Video Memory) on your 1050 Ti GPU is not sufficient enough to handle certain aspects of the animation you're trying to process in After effects. In 2022, I'd suggest you to upgrade your GPU to something that offers a minimum of 8GB VRAM. To be more future proof, you should consider investing in higher end GPUs that offer 12, 16 or 24 GB RAM.
Also, since you upgraded your system RAM to 32 GB, that's definitely a good upgrade that's been done here.
Good info. and well done ! I'll keep my 32gigs and spend the extra minute surfing the web ! :)
Also maybe someday you should try importing a hundred 4K footages with opened thumbnail cover on the video folder. Most likely you'll get "memory" problem because the RAM can't handle it. It could be a test somehow for 32 vs 64 GB RAM for the import timings till the thumbnail have been added.
Cool video, thanks for taking the time.
Just some food for thought, Gamers Nexus did a segment on 2 sticks vs 4 sticks with the 5000 series Ryzen.
Oddly enough, the 4 sticks netted around a 10% improvement over 2. Not something you normally think would be the case, but these processors seem to work better with 4 sticks of RAM.
Steve, it depends on if the RAM is single rank or dual-rank. The idea with 4 is to have 4 x ranks. 2 sticks that are dual-rank is essentially same. You also might run into possible timing issues the more sticks you have. 2 is going to give you more compatibility and overclocking ability than 4 sticks.
@@83n80y This is very true^
You can a lot some task while rendering too. So If you're using a 20gb on 64. You can still do some Adobe tasks like editing while rendering. So I think that's some advantage too.
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Thanks!
64gb is not enough when you use premiere pro and after effects to put transition via dynamic link. But it depends.
The GPU and CPU was just chilling while your Ram is near to get BSOD, while rendering.
Just rendering a 1080p video with a lengh of 3 min. My 64gb of ram were at 74% of it’s capacity and my gpu (rtx 2070) was barely at it’s 40% of usage. So with after effects i think is more important ram an ssd drive
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I am curious if the time saving is exponential if we compare the same benchmarks with longer timeline..🤔
Nice pre..
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Noted on this sir! Salamat sa comment.
Thank you for this. I have 32gb Corsair LPX 3600 ( 2 x 16gb) and another pack of 32 gb on the desk which I haven't installed yet. I have bought a corsair ram cooler too. DId you have any trouble running 4 sticks at once at optimal speed speed and did it affect system temps and stability?
Surprisingly while they do get hot if you touch them, the system ran smoothly. No issues with the 64gb setup and the mobo detected it running at optimum speeds.
@@TopDownTech thank you. i will install the extra 32 gig and cooler today
depends on mobo
in some mobos running 4-sticks is not good due to the way the slots are connected
@@gamedos9572 thank you
@@RadiAsian might want to check out the channel "actually hardcore overclocking" for more info about ram
Good Day Sir Janus 💙
Thanks for this review. My current system is a i9-9900K on a ASUS Prime Z-390A with 32GB of DDR4. I'm currently building a (new/old) system with a i9-12900KS. I plan on using a ASUS Strix Z-690 and install 64 GB of DDR5. I haven't decided on which graphics card to install on my system yet. Still researching. I saw about a 9 % gain in your rendering time and that was significant to me.
Thank you.
I wonder if makes more of a difference when working on the raw files with an increase in seek/preview pane speed vs lets say working with proxies
so 32 gb and 64gb performance is almost the same?
I got a "gaming laptop" i5 8gb ram and at first I had no issue since I only used it for word, powerpoint and chrome basically only school work. As of right now I still only use it for school work, no games or anything and I though if I had a "gaming laptop" It was sent going to lag but it's been lagging a lot lately. I literally don't install anything other than word documents, should I get more ram or what should I do, I'm not that well informed in laptops so I don't know what can help me. I'm up to date with updates and everything:/
It's not good benchmark cause the 64 go speed is 2400mghz and the 32 go Speed 2133 mghz and not the same CAS.
👍👍👍
I want to upgrade to 32GB ram sticks but idk if I can just buy it and my motherboard be able to run it or if only certain motherboards can run it.
Gotta check your motherboard’s website first
@@TopDownTech have the ASRock Z590-C/ac
Went to the manual but couldn’t find anything :(
any change/updates to this topic ?
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Sir TDT does Pc's take a lot of electricity?, bcus I'm planning to build one and afraid if my bills go higher
it depends on the parts you will put together sir and which programs you'll be using. for example my PC at idle (not doing anything) sits around under 30watts. but when I'm gaming it can reach 300watts during graphics heavy scenes. But if you will put a graphics card and/or a CPU that isn't too power hungry, you can still get lower power consumption.
@@TopDownTech hmm, good enough for me😁👍, thank you
Sir I have a question I edit long videos using premiere pro that is only 1080p and it takes longer times it will take to 15 minutes to 1 hour.
I have 16gb ram will I upgrade to 32gb?
More RAM does save time. This has been proven across several videos like this I've seen. The time saved 16GB vs. 32GB vs. 64 GB are noticeable, but you have to think about whether it's worth upgrading for the right price.
Why should I complain ??
2 years ago I bought 64gb 3600 4 sticks for under $200
Hi I just wanna ask,
they said there's likely have issues when getting 3600 mhz . is it true. how's your experience with 3600 mhz?
@@daniellorenceaparece4295 - Depends on factors. If your motherboard plays nicely with the RAM. Your BIOS is up to date and you DIDN'T get an extremely cheap costing/cheap quality board. Like I use G Skill, I'm cool with it the 3600 RAM has been used on Z690 chipset and different B550 and X570 boards. It's ok with them. If someone wants to really cushion their fall, look up the compatible RAM on the given tested list that comes with the board on it's website from the manufacturer.
Right now I'm in the middle of making 3 systems and HONESTLY I don't need to make more then 1 (grunt)
Wow that is cheap compared to todays prices.
@@rogue2791 - Depends on where you go. I shop to get the best for my money. Some people say, let me get the biggest piece of trash for the least amount spent - NOT a good philosophy, then they get mad at the results when testing the equipment. If I can buy something 30-50% lower then MSRP - then I'm a happy kid. I just wish Intel would stop making stupid pins and LARGE CPUs for their hardware - not a good combination at all, what so ever.
On performance it looks like the ram was not at their displayed clock speed.
First :)
I want to ask you something about the CPU I have the same CPU 5900x with Asrock b550 taichi and all cores reach 4.3 GB when rendering and about 4.5 or 4.6 when I gaming
I see a lot of people having a bigger number same as you all core 4.45 and turbo to 4.9 or 4.8
what should I do?
You must decide all core vs Single Core. Render programs use all cores same usage and games prefer any cores. At a 5900x you must check your bios what you can do for higher all core usage. For example ive a 5950x and if my programs go all core Ive 16 cores at 4.5 Ghz. For Information if you find your way for higher all core a good cooling for your cpu is important. I use a custom loop for max cpu and gpu. Next Month I upgrade to a mora 420 for better cooling my cpu.
what would have made this a fair test if both set of ram where the same speeds the 64 gb kit is faster
0:32
Try to use RAM at 3200 Mhz.
Yessir. Forgot to mention that my setup was on XMP running at 3200mhz.
@@TopDownTech but the performance window you're showing while rendering shows 2133mhz and 2400mhz for the tests?
@@KevinEdgar I see the same and write a new answer. Because if XMP 3200 works Taskmanager show it. In my case i use 3600 or IF1800 and my Taskmanager show me the same 3600 MHz. Higher ram speed are very good in render programs.
@@TopDownTech no it wasn't the video proves it
4:45,
5:25,
64gb is more for what i do IT/engineering 3D
When you try that on a 3d software like blender you will get to know the real difference between 32 gb 64 gb 128 gb 😀
Sir TDT does Pc's take a lot of electricity?, bcus I'm planning to build one and afraid if my bills go higher