Cobra Kai Season 5 | John Kreese's Therapy Scene
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2022
- Cobra Kai Season 5 (2022)
Scene: John Kreese's Prison Therapy Session (Young Johnny Lawrence)
TV Series Info:www.imdb.com/title/tt7221388/
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His girl: Sadness
Turner: Rage
Silver: Hatred
Tory: Concern
Young Johnny: Guilt
Old Johnny: Sorrow
Young Kreese: Hope?
*Sergeant
Also, Turner was a captain, not a sergeant
Also that girl name is betsy
This kind of makes sense.
Basically everything we hear about the Force in Star Wars….
Can we just appreciate how phenomenally amazing this scene was?
I just saw this scene in the episode and came here to read the comments on it because I'm still blown away by it. This is such a amazing season. WOW!.
@@drakenfist I think this scene was my highlight of the season. This scene made me feel full sympathy for Kreese. I cried in the beginning of episode 10 because of this scene
yes
This was the best scene in season 5
or how about the music? so good. just such an insane scene.
This man's acting is really amazing. He can both be a protagonist and antagonist at any time. The way he cares about Johnny even though he hates him is just heart warming. And of course, seeing John Kreese cry over Johnny for the first time in the beginning of Episode 10 just literally broke my heart and got me emotional with all that background music.
This therapy scene felt useless by the end of the series
@@yelsew6907 agree with you. He still only acts in his own self interest. Dude doesn’t deserve redemption.
he doesn't hate johnny lol, he treats him as if he were a son he never had
if only his girlfriend, betsy lived..
@@Oneeye_snaps What was he supposed to do, stay in jail for something he never did?
You can't be protagonist and antagonist at the same time lol
*The fact that Tory appears in this scene shows that Kreese really does see her like a granddaughter, and does have paternal feelings for her*
I like Kreeses character change! Without going to much into detail, but there is some thought i have a longer time, even if its only a thought and can be completely wrong. Remember how much the death of Betsy hurt him. Maybe this was the start of everything. Here is my thought, like i said only a thought.
Since there are so many theories about Barnes being Torys dad or Julie her mother: I have an other idea (only idea): Tory could indeed be his granddaughter.
Remember Kreese s girlfriend Betsy (like Tory ends with an Y) died in a car crash. Maybe she was pregnant from Kreese, but never told him since he had to go to Vietnam. She was pregnant with twin sisters, Tory s mother and aunt Kandace. Those two babies were saved and cut out of their death mother Betsy, and maybe Torys mom is now sick because she was cut out of Betsys belly and got hurt, while her sister Kandace had luck. That landlord even asked Kreese if he was Tory s grandfather "or something". And in S5 they were again named as granddaughter and grandpa.
It is a mystery why the face of Torys mom was never shown yet...and Kreese almost saw her when he stood in the door. Is it maybe because she and her sister Kandace are twins and look 1-1 the same?
Kreese indeed seems to see something of himself in Tory...maybe because she is his granddaughter without knowing it. Kreese only cares about three people, Johnny who was like a son for him, Robby because he is Johnny s son, and Tory. And now it seems Tory and Robby are a couple...Kreese would love that i am sure.
You know maybe later we gonna see Tory is able to convince Robby and Johnny Kreese has changed positive, and it would be somehow amazing of the future of the Cobra Kai Dojo is Kreese, Johnny, Robby and Tory, but they teach Karate in a good way.
To finish my thought: You can think i am crazy, but i have a kind of a dream scenario in my head. I would cry if it comes true because it will be very emotional. But i can tell you so much if Tory is actually Kreeses granddaughter, and if she stays now together with Robby, this scenario would make Johnny and Kreese actually a real family. Johnnys son and Kreeses granddaughter together. This is only a part of may scenario. I dont want to share the other half, since i would be sad if the writers have this idea and would change it since someone had already the same idea. I can tell you only so much: The main rivalry is Kreese vs Daniel/Miyagi, this rivalry is the reason for all the trouble in the Cobra Kai show since Season 2. Kreese manipulated Tory agains Sam and tried to use Robby to bring Johnny back. When it fails he hired Silver to help him to get Johnny back. My scenario would be one of the few possibilities how this Kreese vs Daniel rivalry could end. But i cant tell more now.
Remember this show is so much about foreshadowing. Carmen's mom to Johnny: "Dont make Carmen pregnant"...and now she is pregnant.
Maybe this references to Kreese and Tory as grandpa and granddaughter are a foreshadowing too.
She will definitely be one of the main factors if there is ever a redemption arch for Kreese her and Johnny.
@@Night_Dragon11 There's not going to be a redemption for Kreese. Vietnam and his girlfriend's death changed him forever. He's going to be the final big dog to take down at the global tournament.
@hbjetta, wouldnt this be too easy and obvious? Watch the final 20 seconds of this clip again. This lady and the young Kreese are telling Kreese he can be a better person, but its locked deep inside him. Then the young Kreese says to the old Kreese he has to find this better person inside him. Would be very strange if all of this is for nothing.
So many people thought Tory was an evil girl who will be the killer girl forever. It all changed when Robby came in her life, she became softer, thats what Daeun realized too. She was always a good girl but this good girl was burried under a tough fassade, which was created through Kreeses manipulations agains the LaRusso family (Samantha). Amanda and especially Robby were able to break this fassade.
We will see what s going to happen. But should Tory in the end really be Kreeses granddaugher, i mean that Betsy was pregnant with twin sisters when she died, Torys mom and aunt, that could be the key for Kreese to find his good side again, because then Tory would be a part of Betsy (since Betsy would be her grandmother), and Kreese changed evil after Betsy died, this was the start, he burried all of his emotions and became so cold.
Lets see what will happen. But i think we gonna see even more evil people in Season 6, maybe Migiuels dad is among them. Or some other people, and i mean people who a really evil and have no good sides at all.
@@hbjetta they're already shaping it up to be that way, yes Kreese will be the last villain in the end but the fact that he even chose a different path for Tory remembering what he did to Johnny at the beginning of KK2, he already started being different, Tory is like the female counterpart to Johnny, this is Kreese being a Sensei over again.
The CGI for teenage Johnny Lawrence, was incredible
They used cgi when terry silver assraped daniel.
Yeah. I didn’t even think something like that was possible.
@@brendansmith6035 They did this before with Arnold Schwarzenegger in the Terminator films before as well as Edward Furlong in Dark Fate as John Conner and a few other films I’m sure. I still can’t wrap my head around how good these effects look though lol simply uncanny
It wasn't cgi, it was an actor dressed like Johnny with a deaged William Zabkas face deep faked on to his face with Zabkas doing a higher pitched version of his voice to sound younger
Better than Marvel CGI nowadays
The young Johnny was so good, even got his young voice right. Great CGI.
Fr they need more
It looks fake as fuck
pretty sure Zabka did the voice and just raised his tone to make it sound higher and younger.
@@PrinceTrexus I’m sure but it was spot on man
THAT WAS CGI?! OH MY GOSH IM MIND BLOWN 🤯
The young Johnny sitting in front of him was incredible to see, it almost moved me to tears.
Same
Same, and I can't believe that I'm not the only one.
I think it was a Johnny "What if?" scenario, what if he never met Kreese? then you got the older Johnny the one who did meet Kreese.
@@johntrevy1 definitely not
@@russkate88 Why did young Johnny look so innocent then?
Kreese sees people who affected him:
His girlfriend who passed away…
His captain who tried to kill him…
His best friend who betrayed him…
His champion who he treats like a granddaughter…
His best student who hates him but he feels is the son he never had…
All true! And a thought i have since Season 3: Maybe Tory is actually his granddaughter. We never saw the face of her mother yet, only her aunt Kandace. Maybe Betsy was pregnant from Kreese but never told him since he was already in Vietnam. She was pregnant with twin sisters, Tory's mother and aunt. Then she died in the car crash being 8 or 9 months pregnant. The two babies were cut out of Betsy's belly shortly after she died.
This scenario would make Tory, like Betsy with with an Y, to Kreese's and Betsy's granddaughter.
Of course its all speculative and i wouldnt bet its true, but should Torys mom and aunt really be twin sisters and look 1-1 the same, i think the scenario is possible.
Kreese sees something in Tory which makes him like, respect and help her so much. And the two were now called twice grandpa and grauddaughter.
Season 3:
Landlord: "Are you her grandpa or something?"
Season 5:
Prison guard: "Kreese, your granddaughter is here."
So or so should this really be the case, a bit of Betsy would live in Tory. And maybe only maybe this could be the key for Kreese to unlock his former self, the good guy he was before Vietnam.
We will see...
And the Good man he once was.
MAN the emotions were all over the place here. From a young kreese to a de-aged William Zabka
fr when it showed johnnys young self to his older self hit hard
One of the RARE times we SAW the Human Side of Kreese.
I love the scenes with young Kreese it’s so cool to see what he was before Cobra Kai started. This scene was beautiful.
I was so caught off guard with young Johnny it’s like they got a time machine and brought back William Zabka from the 80’s
@@hoani3264 That did hit hard for some reason
I don’t know if that was de-aging CGI, or if they just got an actor that looked like young Zabka, but damn! That’s impressive!
Did young zabka travel back in time and filmed his scene in cobra Kai?
@@Karlebow571 fr
@@Karlebow571 You mean, travel into the future...
I think it's cgi. It has to be because that actor looks nearly identical to 1984 Johnny Lawrence.
More impressive than the mandalorian
Man, seeing all those faces from Kreese's past, even 1984 Johnny as the young Will Zabka, that was amazing.
Yep, totally love this scene!!
Captain Turner is indirectly responsible for everything that is happening in the entire franchise, which makes him the overarching antagonist.
Him and David (Betsy's ex).
Kreese was right to kill Turner.
Bullcrap. You are just playing a bull$hit "turtles all the way down" argument. What about the person or people who abused and misguided Captain Turner to make him the evil man he was when he messed up the heads of Kreese and Silver? You can ALWAYS push the situation back another step. So its stupid and pointless to try to pick ANY one person to blame for everything.
@@Zurround Well we don’t know Turner’s story or if he even became like that because of someone so until that happens i agree with the top comment
Kim Sung Eun definitely didn't help that either
Scene literally brought me to tears. They captured the complications and mental conflicts that PTSD plays on your mind perfectly.
Ur….ad..op….t..ed…
@@gamerhab4514 so is your courage
Yep perfectly sums up Kreese's state of mind.
This is an underrated scene. Props to Martin Kove for an incredible acting. You can FEEL the passion in his acting.
I wanted them to be better than me. Powerful words. He ment not as a fighter but as a person. Ever bad guy was a good guy once but life happened taking you down a different path. Comment if u agree.
@@actuary33 Reminds me of Joker’s “One Bad Day” speech
Underrated? I dunno it’s been out for like 2 days and everyone seems to love it! ❤
Not everything that's good is underrated
When they deaged Johnny, I kinda wish they deaged Kreese as well in that moment, then showed a quick flashback to Kreese putting Johnny in a headlock for losing to Daniel.
Favorite scene in season 5. I got emotional over seeing Kreese's old girlfriend, and then young Johnny showed up. What a ride.
@Darth Grievous ich auch
Yeah Betsy
Same. Seeing 1984 Johnny really messed with my head.
@@russkate88 since that was his one regret: nearly killing him after the 1984 tournament since he lost his anger and upset that Johnny lost
@@bertatafel1938 yes. Definitely.
This scene was SO DEEP...
what a conflicted man Kreese is.....you want to hate him, but wind up feeling sorry for him....
Almost sorry, as Danny said.
And yes, Danny is not perfect.
Therapy worked surprisingly well for kreese
@@jonathanoxlade4252eh it worked well enough for him to stage a jailbreak.
The transition from young Johnny to older Johnny made me tear up a bit. The music was perfect for that transition.
They say your kids grow up too fast, in this scene Kreese’s son went from like 17 to late 40s in 10 seconds
Same, and agree.
Now this is how you do an emotional scene.
A broken man who's feeling sorry for his actions, had the only closest thing he could've call his son, Johnny. I've hated him at first when he showed up but after seeing his origin and the whole war events it made me realize he lost so much that he end up alone, but he's not alone.
bro that was something. That Johhny deep face was AMAZING
Deepfake*
About that, I was wondering, is this is the first season they used cgi?
@@antonbedoy7556 no in season 2 or 3 they had sam flying in with a kick and they had to use cgi to get rid of the rope
It amazes me that Cobra Kai can take the most irredeemable antagonists, humanize them, and then set them down the path for redemption
The people that represent Kreese's emotions.
Betsy: His love of his life, his light.
Captain Turner: His ruthless Captain that made him ruthless and 'No Mercy'.
Terry Silver: His former Best friend and now Enemy.
Tory Nicols: His student and his reflection of his past.
Young Johnny: The boy who was like a son to him but hurt him in the progress.
Adult Johnny: Who he wants to make amends with.
His young self: His beginning of his redemption.
I cant wait for a final episode maybe Daniel and the gang leave the past and shake hands on it because
Krease feels threatened but after this he might fined a way to just let bygones be bygones and talk
Johnny Lawrence from the 80s was a BADASS scene. I was like “Wow! How did y’all do that!” That actually looks pretty good lol
I honestly think the better part is the understanding between Kreese and old Johny that happened in s4 being represented here when young Johny becomes old Johny. Just phenomenal
@@musicjonna Kreese loves Johnny like a son in his own way even when they had their differences. It’s like if Kreese die for real one day he wants Johnny to be there by holding his hand
This was so powerful that I couldn't believe that tears slowly started to stream down my face. When young Johnny appears, my heart broke. It snapped.
Me too tears already when doll face appeared (don't remember the name)
Kreese developing since season 3 has been my favorite moments
@@janne5942 Betsy is her name
@@DaggerMan-ov1vf oh yeah
dude it was sad before young Johnny showed up it was sad when the love of his life showed up
The switch from young Johnny to old Johnny was a shot to the heart. And then again with young Kreese!
Possibly the best scene in the entire show it humanized such a notorious villain.
You know it's a good scene, if you searched it on RUclips and watched it for at least 1000 times and it's still great. - A rollercoaster of feelings.
Honestly, one of the best scenes this season. And it wasn't a fight. All of these individuals from Kreese's life showed up to highlight the moments that shaped him. This was a testament to Martin Kove's acting as we see his loss, anger, defiance, and perhaps most striking of all, his vulnerability. Plus, seeing all of the past actors who played roles back in the Vietnam scenes in season 3 made me geek out.
The fact that Betsy is wearing the same clothes she had been wearing when Kreese said goodbye to her for the last time as a young man while the same SOUNDTRACK played in that very scene as it does here in just a different version is absolute BRILLIANCE. It's like Kreese is reliving that very moment.
💯, it was a very beautiful moment. I hope we see some more of Betsy in season 6.
"None of this is my fault."
Holy Shit John, how did you come that amazing feat of Mental Gymnastics?
He was framed.
Denial is a powerful thing.
@@raygordonteacheschess5501 The charges are still accurate.
@@raygordonteacheschess5501 He also was the one who brought Terry back, and betrayed him by triggering his ptsd.
@@kevinthompson3569 But not for the right person.
This scene alone is enough to win an Emmy for the entire series. Incredible. I was im tears.
The scene which young Johnny says “you wanted them all to be like you” and then when Kreese says “I wanted them all to be better than me” and then changed to older Johnny was brilliant. Symbolising how much Johnny has changed and a greater man he has become with training kids to fight aggressive but fair and having a family of his own. Hats off to the producers for this scene 🙌
Kreese saying "[he] wanted them all to be better than [him]" sounds bullshit since he was teaching them to be thugs.
@zzzzzzzzzzzk it makes sense knowing his past of being bullied and pushed around, his intentions were pure but got lost in the pursuit
@@BillyButcher90 Whereas Johnny taught them bad lessons, but inadvertently and taught them to be badass, in a far more honorable and merciful way.
@@royal1643 Daniel got bullied and pushed around, yet he didn't become a psychopath like Kreese.
@@jorgebersabe293 What do you mean "inadvertently taught them to be badass in a noble and honourable way"? Wasn't that always Johnny's intention?
This is one of the most fantastic scenes written, acted, produced and CGI'd in television history
This scene made me tear up... The effects of him being overwhelmed with all feelings by the past faces: His lost love of his life, the war commandant, the young Johnny Lawrence, Johnny Lawrence, the shrink and then to the young Kreese... this was brilliant, absolutly top-notch acting.
,, I lost someone... the love of my life."
,, You have to do everything in war to survive."
,, I didn't want you to be me... I wanted you to be better than me."
,, You're better than this... you just have to finde me."
This really hit different 🥺😔😔😔
I think because deep down we can all look back at our past and realize we've wounded people and people have wounded us. We all want to be redeemed or feel like there is hope.
Scenes like this one is what makes Cobra Kai so great. When you least expected, the series gives you moments like this one.
Kreese: I've had enough of this!
Terry Silver: What an interesting choice of words...Take the anger they feel... Do you feel angry, John? At who?
This got me chills down my spine! It's a reference to Silver betraying Kreese back in Season 4. Of course, John Kreese is going through therapy, so the characters viewed from the therapist's chair are visually just in our view. But every character had a cause for showing up in our view because of the choice of words used by the therapist. It gives us nostalgia.
But Silver was right when he said Kreese did this to himself, Kreese brought Silver back into the freigh and abused Terry by manipulating him.
@@MrMoleHole kreese never abused terry, he just needed a partner since johnny and daniel were working together to take down cobra kai. terry was living a fine life, until kreese raised terry from the dead (kinda) and peer pressured terry to come back to cobra kai. terry's weakness was ALWAYS kreese, and kreese's weakness was ALWAYS johnny. there is no debate, its just how the series was written.
saying kreese "abused" terry is just out of context and too crazy hell of a word to use for "pressure" and "manipulate"
@@mxtruKreese 100 percent abused Terry, he 180d on Silver when he reminded him of Vietnam intentionally triggering his PTSD, reducing him to a traumatized state just so Kreese could feel powerful again. What kind of good friend would do that huh? What kind of friend would put his friend to tears. Then he continued to hold the "I saved your life" debt over Terry, despite Terry doing more than enough to repay him, which was a form of guilt tripping. This is all abuse plain and simple.
@@MrMoleHole we are talking about season 5, not the past -_-.
One of the best scenes in the show! Betsy, young Kreese, and even a young and same extract Johnny from 1984? How?! But I love it!!
There is an actor who played Young Johnny in this scene.The Credits have him mentioned. Johnnys de aged face was edited in after shooting the scene.
This Scene is one of my favorite scenes. Brilliant scene.
@@GG-zk3de Actually,it’s Johnny Lawrence from Karate Kid II.
@@MiguelRodriguez-dk2ds I know , in the Credits there IS an actor mentioned that played Young Johnny in this scene.Young Johnnys face was edited in over the actors face , the actor who is called Logan Coffey.
@@MiguelRodriguez-dk2ds there is not difference, the second one started canotically minutes after the first one
@@GG-zk3de after see that I was just waiting for the credit and immediately looked him up
This scene alone is so powerful. Especially if you have watched all of The Karate Kid trilogy (1984-89) and the Cobra Kai series history so far. The writing, the music and all the actors respectively make you FEEL, dare I say sympathy, for Kreese - the main protagonist (bear in mind that even Silver himself initially didn't want to go back to being a co-villain in S4 and has only recently succeeded him in the show). This gives Kreese backstory, insight to his mindset and overall some proper motivation.
Basically great stuff 🥋🙏🥋
That scene with young Johnny was brilliant. I really wanted to see Kreese become good and redeem himself
Hope he will in the 6th season join up with Johnny. He cared more about his student than Johnny's father himself did. I want to see these two bound finally.
Me too. And then the last scene of season 5, where it's all a ruse... pretty tragic. Kreese did feel regret, and show contrition, and yet he still ultimately chose the wrong path. Quietly heartbreaking, but that's "his way"-there's no going back for him now.
By far the best scene of the entire show. Loved seeing backstories and emotional depths of John Kreese
The actor playing Captain Turner did an excellent job, great tone
2:40 When he said he wanted all of his students to be better than him and it showed Johnny shows after all he did he still deeply cares for him and regrets what he has done.
This scene was done so great! The way they have all of the characters that played important roles in Kreese’s life talk to them is just so perfect. Kudos to the cast and crew!
This show has gotten a lot mileage out of the whole "there is no such thing as a bad student only bad teacher" and the whole "nobody is born a bad" theme.
So Walter White wasn't also born bad?
@@BillyButcher90 I just rewatched all of breaking bad and better call saul. So good! I just think this scene resonates with anyone who is struggling with what they have become. Whether its an alcoholic, abusive person, or what have you and trying to figure out how to get back to your most innocent self.
@@bryansteele832 Alcoholics, drug addicts and abusive people struggle to get back to their innocent selves and they have to want to be cured which involves firstly addressing the problem. In this case, Kreese does not seem to want to redeem himself as he says "none of this is [his] fault" and "[he] did nothing wrong".
@@BillyButcher90 He's coming up with excuses that he did nothing wrong. The whole point of this scene is him hopefully remembering he wasn't always a dick.
@@bryansteele832 Well I can empathize with the younger, idealistic man he was. But that's gone now. What's left is the older, manipulative snake that he is.
My eyes welled up when I saw young Johnny. What an incredible scene.
Guys, the young Johnny is played by actor Logan Coffey, and if you google him, he looks nothing like the young William Zabka. So yeah, kudos to Cobra Kai team for pulling off next level CGI or Deepfake. You just fall short of reasons why Cobra Kai is the just the best series to watch!
I want Kreese to Be redeemed he has been through hell in his life and was too afraid to be seen as weak, hates the world because it showed him no mercy, lost people he cared about, tries multiple times to change. His past haunts him and twists him. He’s a very broken man.
Everyone has given up on him except this one lady councillor
For me, Kreese absolutely stole the show. It makes me forget he was a pretty one-dimensional cartoony villain in the original Karate Kid movies. The way Cobra Kai fits into the "Miyagiverse" lore is flawless.
This IMO is one if not the best scene on any show you can see his ptsd in his eyes he truly is seeing them and how he reacts to each image is incredible great acting
The scene after this where young kreese fights the prisoners was one of the best of the season. Shows the reignited fire kreese had after this session
My favorite scene not only of the season but of the entire series, amazing, first time I saw it, I just got lost for words, it may not be as entertaining as a fight, but I’m terms of story telling and character development, it was master piece.
The look on Kreese's face when he sees Betsy. Sadness, pain and regret.
When he says "The love of my life" you can hear his pain.
You can also see that he has tears in his eyes if you look closely
@@MorganKing95 Oh! I see them.
Kreese: None of this is my fault! I did NOTHING wrong!
Chinese proverb: He who blames others has a long way to go. He who blames himself is halfway there. He who blames no one has arrived.
That's actually good a proverb
Best scene this season by far. This along with the scenes with Johnny & Chozen bonding in the club, the limo scene where Daniel, Chozen & Johnny are all singing eye of tiger & Robby & Johnny bonding in Mexico. Great season that is very messy & a clusterf***. This season made me want to see more of Kreese's story/redemption arc, see more of Johnny & Chozen's newly found friendship & want more of Mike Barnes. Chozen & Barnes most definitely have to come back. I pray that Terry Silver comes back too. He still killed it this season after being the MVP of last season. Maybe he'll plot & scheme behind the scenes in prison, come back & get his revenge in the series finale film.
@Fall I thought we'd have 3 more seasons & a possible movie as the show's series finale, but I think you might be right. There aren't much stories left to tell. Miguel & Robby are buddies now, same with Sam & Tory. The only things left are for Kreese & Johnny to make amends, Anthony & Kenny to make peace & that tournament thing sakai taikai thingy. All of which can be done in season 6. Netflix Stranger Things on a roll, the new Sandman series (which is really, really good, but surprised to see it on Netflix & not HBO Max because its a DC comic) & other shows. Plus the kids are getting older now & the actors are getting bigger & better roles now, so they might as well end CK before it's too late.
@@cesarcanete3402 I think 1 more season will be enough. They've brought in everyone they could from the movies and made it work. Cobra Kai (dojo) is pretty much dead now. The kids are making amends. Johnny, Chozen, Daniel, and Mike are all friends and united vs Silver. Silver will get out easy as there isn't much evidence. So S6 will deal with the Sekai Taikai where I guess Kim Da-eun will take control of Cobra Kai and compete against Miyagi-Do, and we'll get Kreese vs Silver. Kreese wants redemption, what he did with Tory is proof enough for me. They can't keep going much longer or it'll start to drag. Johnny has a kid on the way, Robby and Miguel dealt with their issues, so did Sam and Tory. Kenny knows the truth. It's nearly finished. Now it's time for the best of Cobra Kai and Miyagi-Do to unite for the tournament under the new Miyagi-Do+Eagle Fang name they'll come up with.
@@anidriX Kreese has no redemption arc!
Best scene in the series. It brought some humanity to a character we all written off as irredeemable.
I’m so glad they didn’t go with the typical cookie cutter redemption arc with Kreese. They made me sympathize with him while not forgetting that he’s not a good guy.
Like Tony Soprano, right?
Betsy represents the Loving, Good side of John but also his sadness, His Captain represents his Trauma. Terry represents his poor influences, Tory represents the people he’s failing, Young Johnny represents the people he failed. And young John represents a good man who cared about his students and wanted to do the right thing.
The doctors right John deep down isn’t A bad person but he was more so corrupted by his feeling of loss, bad influences, traumatic experiences.
Small thing I realized about young Johnny.
I'm pretty sure he's dressed the same way he was in KK2 when Kreese strangled him, Makes "the people you hurt" hit much deeper.
Powerful Scene, Flawless delivery.
MARTIN KOVE is JOHN KREESE, no one else. HE IS COBRA KAI
"You wanted them all to be like you"
"No I wanted them all to be BETTER than me"
It's tragically ironic that in his own twisted way Kreese succeeded.
Hands down.....the greatest scene in this season.
I was hoping they would show 80’s Kreese, that would have been sick!
This is easily amongst the top five best scenes of this already incredible show. Martin Kove just nailed this.
This season knocked it out of the park with character development
This is by far the best scene in Kobra Kai. It was so relatable and to see a different side of Kreese.
Definitely my favourite scene of this season! I just love the transitions.. And in general Kreese's arc in the prison was the best part of this season for me.. ♥️♥️♥️
The young Johnny caught me off guard and made me sad 😞
Showing us that kreese cares about
Him and thought of him like a son
This scene was so powerful and emotional. It's good to know that I wasn't the only one to tear up.
This was probably one my favourite scenes from season 5, I think out of everyone that appeared, Johnny was the one I think hit him the most he truly loves him like his own and knows he’s the one he let down and hurt the most
A lotta ppl here are saying they teared up the hardest at young johnny, but honestly young kreese got me harder, i took it as a sign that he needs to forgive himself and move on and seeing it through a time when he truly was a good person is what he needed
My favorite scene of the whole season, I dropped a tear when I see Johnny as teenager.
Absolutely brilliant, Cobra Kai just keeps getting better and better with each season.
0:06 ,0:08 what do you want me to do??, cry into a tissue?? 😂
Brilliant scene. I could not hold the tears.
If there's a Boxset of dvd or blue rays..... Im 100% going to buy this one and upgrade my old vhs tapes from Karate kid. THE WHOLE SERIES IS SO WELL PUT TOGETHER.
“I wanted them all to be better than me.”
But you didn’t know how to go about it.
I like how Kreese don’t react to his hallucinations like trying to attack Turner or Silver. He still knows that he talk to the therapist.
This is possibly the best scene in the whole franchise
Man, was this scene incredible.
I especially liked how they got teenage Johnny in this & the actor was spot on.
The scene was probably the one for me that showed that Kreese truly wasn't a bad person. There's people like silver who act demonic, and then there's people like Kreese who just have demons. The thing is his are harder to let go of because his demons caused him to treat Johnny the way he did. Even though it might be too late for him to fix what he's broken, this scene did a good job making you feel bad for him. It really shows that he's been through so much more than people think.
His failure with Johnny made all those scenes with him and Tory more powerful. He did so much right with her from talking to Amanda larusso to having her back in the tournament when silver wanted her to cheat. It kinda broke my heart with him using her in the 5th season. I really wanna see a scene in the final season with kreese, Johnny and Tory coming together in an epic moment because for all his short comings and failures Johnny and Tory are the students he cares the most about and his greatest successes. His character not getting that moment would be a serious mistake for the show writers
I agree , this is The most important and interesting sceene of CK Season 5 ... congratulations to the writters and to the actors ! Of course every second of the whole franchise Cobra Kai is brilliant !
@0:40 - 0:50 = I almost cried 🤧 when he said that...😥 The Scenes with Betsy🙍🏼♀️ were so sad 😣 to watch for me 😧 - I really had to hold back my Tears! 😔😢
Damn this show just got better and better. Kreese talking to the reflection of people that had major influence in his life and his younger self as well is spectacular
This season was amazing. By far the best season along with the first. 2, 3, and 4 were great buildup but season 5 was all payoff. I was so happy to see Kreese takeover the inmate population LOL.
God I'm so thankful this show exists
"Your sitting here sulking like a kid who got in trouble in class" LMFAOOO
This is just a beautiful scene.....
Kreese is one of the best villains ever created
The whole scene wow quite the intropesction of kreese as a whole each person he was were aspects of himself: the woman he loved symbolizing the good in him the noble motivation to gain strenght, his old CO the man that made him become the cobra, terry his old friend who became the very monster he was if nof even more so , tory a girl who much like him needed strenght to fight back, johnny his pupil the closest thing kreese had to a son his hope and lastly his younegr self the light he once had the became lost in the dark. Kreese is a living path to hell paved and born from good intentions. From a desire to help other be better to use the rage and turn it into positive strenght to be better slowly became twisted and corrupted until he no longer saw the light only darkness
"What i'm suppose to feel regret for"
Whoa, The list is too long to count.
Even though he's a bad guy. John Kreese has become a fave of mine lol. Love the scene in season 4 when hes trying to get silver back on his side and he parties with him then while theyre sitting a rando starts staring at him and johns like "Got a problem buddy?" Or something like that.
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Outstanding scene that captures the complexities of Kreese and how scary good was that A.I/CGI spitting image of young Johnny Lawrence voice and all.
This scene was so masterfully done. The way all of these characters from Kreese's past and present were weaved in to speak the things the therapist was saying to him was great.
Kreese: "I taught them to be strong...I was trying to make my students tough. I wanted them all to be better than me."
Walon Vau (Star Wars: Republic Commando): "Everything I do to you from this point onwards is to make sure you survive, even if I don't".
Does anyone find Kreese reminds them of Walon Vau out of the SW Republic Commando novels? A military man with a rough past that has made him angry and violent, but whose brutal training techniques and philosophy are not due to sadism but an altruistic desire to make his students tough.
This season kept on surpassing my expectations. This the type of scene you find in a psychology dark thriller. Confronting all from his past was just outstanding. Gave us such an smazing perspectiveto his Character. One point I even felt bad for him.I aboustley love this episode and this whole season.
Kreese's humanity is finally showing through, I have to say that I'm impressed with his restraint every time he invisioned someone from his past that he hated. I honestly thought 2 things would happen.
1: he'd become violent when he saw his former commander
2: I honestly thought his last vision was going to be of Miyagi.
He never hurt Miyagi because Miyagi never let him hurt him if one person that hurt Miyagi it was Terry Silver because he drove Daniel and Miyagi apart and corrupted young Daniel. Angry Daniel yelled at Miyagi and made him cry that was all Silver's doing
@@eaglefang8656 TRUE!!! so so true,
Maybe he'll see Miyagi in season 6 😂
This is my favourite scene by far
What an amazing scene. Thanks for the upload
*it just occurred to me both Kreese and Miyagi lost someone they loved while being overseas*
Kreese was always the best character form the Karate Kid films. Cobra Cai never dies.
I’m hoping Kreese gets his redemption. His one of those characters that make you wonder is his evil or just broken.
You're a joke
@@BillyButcher90 someones so salty for no reason.
@@Matt03981 Yeh I get salty when someone suggests Kreese should find redemption whilst ignoring every bad thing he did(!) 🙄
@@BillyButcher90What you said makes no sense because nobody's ignoring anything. Kreese deserves redemption and a lot of people want that as well but it doesn't mean we're forgetting all the bad things he did.
@@Matt03981 You seem to be ignoring every bad thing Kreese has done. Minus the therapy scene, he does not seem to be on his way to redeeming himself as his escape from prison as indicated.