6D Limestone with dust.... Someone is thinking but if thats a small stream or even if it isn't I have to wonder how effective that approach will be. I' have the thought that they should have put some sort of drainage pipe (corregated) down there first; I'm a conservative liberal but the tree hugger in me says it would have been better for the wildlife and would have been a longer lasting fix if they had used some drainage pipe first, but I'm not the engineer on site soo... (They better get on the ball or that track will be closed down while they put some of those pretty locomotives back together, etc.) GREAT VIDEO! ONE OF THE BEST BASED ON CONTENT.
Looks to me like this treatment will reinforce the bank next to the track and stop the erosion eating into the RR embankment. The stream will then expend its force eroding the opposite bank, moving itself away from the track and at least reducing the risk of further washout. If too much rock winds up in one place, risking actually blocking the stream, it will be easy enough to fix with a backhoe.
Im guessing this is their only available dump car and they just bring a load every time they pass through for other trips? Edit: other comments seem to indicate so
It's ok I was thinking same. Probably not a car used much and sure it's over $250,000......I have no idea what train cars cost but a small trailer you pull behind truck like that be $20,000.......so though repairs like that be done faster with another million dollars in equipment....thats a million dollars sitting 5 years or more before getting used. This job looks like it should been started sooner and done by now.
Not used much or not many made? Or just unusual a civilian happened to be there recording as most uses are away from roadways? What's cost on 1 them cars? I'm guessing $250,000. But I'm clueless on this stuff.
I grew up up in a little neighborhood in tucson. At night i would be woken by the sound of the train and i would lay there listening until i fell asleep
i used to work for Amtrak in the mw dept. we used these dump cars for spoils disposal, undercutter would fill them up with dirt and rock from under the track, and bring it to me. I would dump it, then spread it out on the access roads or spoil sites on the n.e. corridor. there are videos of the undercutter on youtube
It was a treat to listen to those big EMD SD-45's load up and roar! Reminded me of when I used to live in Flagstaff, AZ and they used to roar through town climbing the grade to the west. Those were the days!!
I can not believe it, I cut my pace as if to say no one passes here until I finish, I keep the motorists captive until I finish throwing some stones into a miserable puddle that they did not have another day or a machine with two or more loaded wagons is unbelievable
Jorge Forneris ... Relax. Another load or two and they will be away from the crossing so traffic can buzz through. Surely people can wait 5 minutes for such a repair, especially in a small town where people are not in such a rush.
That was very cool. Thank you for sharing. Never seen that done before. Imagine waiting at the crossing if every one of those cars was a dump car needing to dump ballast there.
I was a B&B foreman for eight years. This is just a band-aid. Gotta get some sort of excavator down there for some prep work and six side dumps of rip rap.
@@rayjennings3637 ... maybe they looked at that option and couldn't get on the schedule for weeks or months? In that case, load up what you have and stick it with a daily freight. Might be only one load a day but it will be done in two weeks.
pretty cool, I thought those dump cars only existed on model railroads. lol. suppose they only have one of those, otherwise put five in a row and the job is done. thanks!
They only had one side dump car on the property at the time. So it logically maked the most sense to have it on any job passing by the location and dump a load each time verses having a single car non-revenue train operating dozens of trips back and forth, tying up the line, and costing more money then it's worth. They were making the best out of a bad situation. Hopefully that clarifies things a bit.
Yeah that's what I thought too. Damming the stream causing the water to rise will just undermine the tracks even more. What do I know. Really cool video.
That was an excellent video. I use to have a bunch of difco dump cars in ho but never seen one in use. I moved from Rockville MD to NC back in early nineties. I always thought MM would be a great RR to model. Thanks for sharing.
@@johnnypk1963 they could have announced when it was planned for so people could use alternate routes. It might take a couple hours as opposed to several days.
that train is obviously using that run for another purpose and taking advantage of the fact that while passing, dump a load. there is very little waste there that I see. It's true though that just pulling 5 or 6 dump cars up there you might be done but that would not be cost effective when they are running that rail daily for another client.
Using large fill material like what was shown being dumped here is extremely common in fill operations as it allows water to pass through with relatively minimal restriction so long as the fill material is decently large to start with. It has the added benefit of being more cost effective to use in the preliminary stages of site fill operations as it allows for less overall material to be needed to fill a space with smaller rock aka gravel being used at later stages for site completion. Look at it like this. If water can seep through hundreds of feet of solid rock to drip on your head when walking through a cave, it can make it through large fill material just fine. Also consider too that the fill material being used is a organic material. So the EPA would have minimal if any practical concerns. Hopefully that clarifies things. -Nearly two decades of working for UP.
They missed the erosion area by a mile. I guess the plan is to keep dumping fill until the erosion area is completely covered and level with the roadbed.....? Nice engines! I don't know how well they are maintained, but they look good and sound like real diesel engines.
I think you're underestimating the scope of the work that was accomplished here. Even more so given the fact that car dumped between 70-100 tons of large fill material in about 30 seconds worth of time. Admittedly with only one side dump car on the property the scope of the work will naturally take time to completely, but no one ever said life was easy either. On a related note, conveyor based gravel fill trains do exist but usually aren't used for preliminary fill operations at least on a large scale as larger fill materials are used initially to allow for soil drainage and to sure up a solid rock foundation before smaller fill material ie: gravel will be used as a sub-straight for the sites final completing. Larger material also has the benefit of taking up more space in a washout location allowing for less overall material to be needed to begin with hence why large fill is often the first material you see arriving on washouts or fill based construction areas. It's more expensive and less practical to use smaller crushed gravel for the entirety of a fill operation. Hopefully that clarifies a bit. -Nearly two decades working for UP.
At the time they only had one side dump car available on the property. So it made the most rational sense to have it on any job that was passing the erosion site location to dump a load verses having a single car train, tying up the line, running back and forth operations, costing more money then it was worth. The roadbed itself wasn't in any immediate danger. So there wasn't an extreme sense of urgency driving the need for additional side dump cars being brought in as the line was still very much operational. Hopefully that explains things.
Not a cooler feeling in the world than sitting at a railroad crossing and the train stops in front of you, then backs up a hair before stopping again giving you just a tease, awesome! Cool footage for sure thanks!
Using large fill material like what was demonstrated in this video is a extremely common practice in fill operations as it is big enough to allow water drainage plus is overall more cost effective in the initial stages of filling a site verses using man-made drainage options. If water can seep through hundreds of feet of solid rock to drop from the ceiling of caves it will have no problem moving through large fill material. Hopefully that clarifies a bit. -Nearly two decades working for UP.
Only ten more trips to go! I'm guessing maybe they have limited number of these dump trailers? If not, why don't they just load one train with 10-15 of them and get it done in one go?
Wow... start at 4:00 Watch at 2 x speed I have seen frozen molasses move faster with more excitement. The rail crew brought 1 dump box for a 6 dump box job. This is why you sub contract this work out
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6D Limestone with dust.... Someone is thinking but if thats a small stream or even if it isn't I have to wonder how effective that approach will be. I' have the thought that they should have put some sort of drainage pipe (corregated) down there first; I'm a conservative liberal but the tree hugger in me says it would have been better for the wildlife and would have been a longer lasting fix if they had used some drainage pipe first, but I'm not the engineer on site soo... (They better get on the ball or that track will be closed down while they put some of those pretty locomotives back together, etc.)
GREAT VIDEO! ONE OF THE BEST BASED ON CONTENT.
Glad I wasn't the only one thinking about the pipe that never got put in.😎👌👍
Looks to me like this treatment will reinforce the bank next to the track and stop the erosion eating into the RR embankment. The stream will then expend its force eroding the opposite bank, moving itself away from the track and at least reducing the risk of further washout. If too much rock winds up in one place, risking actually blocking the stream, it will be easy enough to fix with a backhoe.
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Im guessing this is their only available dump car and they just bring a load every time they pass through for other trips?
Edit: other comments seem to indicate so
It's ok I was thinking same. Probably not a car used much and sure it's over $250,000......I have no idea what train cars cost but a small trailer you pull behind truck like that be $20,000.......so though repairs like that be done faster with another million dollars in equipment....thats a million dollars sitting 5 years or more before getting used. This job looks like it should been started sooner and done by now.
That is a Difco dump car. Very unusual to film them in use, so I salute the video and sharp looking locomotives.
Not used much or not many made? Or just unusual a civilian happened to be there recording as most uses are away from roadways? What's cost on 1 them cars? I'm guessing $250,000. But I'm clueless on this stuff.
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I grew up up in a little neighborhood in tucson. At night i would be woken by the sound of the train and i would lay there listening until i fell asleep
Neat! I've never seen one of them being used!
Yeah, very cool. Was my first time.
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i used to work for Amtrak in the mw dept. we used these dump cars for spoils disposal, undercutter would fill them up with dirt and rock from under the track, and bring it to me. I would dump it, then spread it out on the access roads or spoil sites on the n.e. corridor. there are videos of the undercutter on youtube
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The way the train rolls up on that ditch it’s kinda like a drive-by
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my favorite video....... there are so many interesting places on the maryland midland line to view the action!!
THEY USUALLY SUB IT OUT TO A SUB CONTRACTOR FOR THIS WORK
I dare any GE too sound that good!!!!!!!!!!
They cant lol
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My gosh, those engines are shiny and beautiful !!!
It was a treat to listen to those big EMD SD-45's load up and roar! Reminded me of when I used to live in Flagstaff, AZ and they used to roar through town climbing the grade to the west. Those were the days!!
Thanks! That’s awesome, I can only imagine how good those days must’ve been!!
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This might hit a million views pretty soon!
Good news! It passed 2!
Man any more of that dirt gets washed away and that section will have to be rebuilt
That's quite a washout
I've always wanted to see one of these work!!! Great catch!
The same for me, too!
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now i know how they work, thanks for showing that!
I bet the car drivers were thrilled!
We have a 460 of side dumps in Australia.. mainly for ballast work trains
That must give the little frogs and fishy's a mild concussion.
they cant get a concussion if their dead! -My dad
Such a sweet sound of SD 45s
They should have dumped it slower to keep more of the rock closer to the shoulder of the track.
Slower? It took them four days to get there.
That’s what they don’t want to do.
The definition of "next time you go that way, If you wouldn't mind just drop that off for us please" 😅
I can not believe it, I cut my pace as if to say no one passes here until I finish, I keep the motorists captive until I finish throwing some stones into a miserable puddle that they did not have another day or a machine with two or more loaded wagons is unbelievable
Jorge Forneris
... Relax. Another load or two and they will be away from the crossing so traffic can buzz through. Surely people can wait 5 minutes for such a repair, especially in a small town where people are not in such a rush.
Loco driver put on a "Notch 8" show for the kids. Mint ! ! !
Dynamo Joe I assume a NOTCH 8 throttle setting is close to putting the pedal to the metal ?? That locomotive shakes the ground.
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That was very cool. Thank you for sharing. Never seen that done before. Imagine waiting at the crossing if every one of those cars was a dump car needing to dump ballast there.
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The cars waiting for the lock to pass across the road are like what the heck are they doing? Goooo lol 😂
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at 7:50, an old clinchfield hopper still with its ACI label
Digging the jointed rail track 😎
I was a B&B foreman for eight years. This is just a band-aid. Gotta get some sort of excavator down there for some prep work and six side dumps of rip rap.
went to notch 8 quickly I see the anti-slip system working well
These guys started this repair as young men.
Gomer .... yea, rumor has it that water flow started years ago as lawn sprinklers run off from local homes.
Union job security.
No kidding. All that for a twenty or so foot section. It will take them years to shore up the erosion beside that track.
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Give it another 10 years and it will be done completely.
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Interesting also the short track lengths in use
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I’m guessing they only have one (1) Dump Car in their Fleet ? 🤔🧐
You would be correct.
@@rayjennings3637 Depends on how often they need it.
@@rayjennings3637 ... maybe they looked at that option and couldn't get on the schedule for weeks or months? In that case, load up what you have and stick it with a daily freight. Might be only one load a day but it will be done in two weeks.
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that was so cool to watch
The same here, for me!
SD45s? Working dump cars? Clinchfield hoppers? Sign me up today! Suscribed!
The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore; not like they not like they did back in 1954!
looks like they need a pipe for that stream or a concrete retaining wall alongside it?
Yes a pipe is a must, thanks stinchjack.😎👌👍
Really cool to see that in action!
This video makes me think about the B@O railroad museum. Very interesting video
Nice catch.
Something quite a small pile of gravel turned out. You need about a dozen dump cars there.
The 3449 is a true Southern Pacific unit with its horizontal nose light. Don't see that very much anymore.
A better approach might be to ask why the bank had eroded in the first place and address that issue first.
pretty cool, I thought those dump cars only existed on model railroads. lol. suppose they only have one of those, otherwise put five in a row and the job is done. thanks!
What kind of Toad would give this a thumb down? I’m sending the link to my grandson.
Awesome video MAR, and those 2 engines sounded good accelerating to take off and even during proceeding forward.
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That was stupid they threw all their rocks in the water. They must be from Union Bridge.
Conductor tells the engineer., "Hey stop right here, I need to take a dump".
Excellent video really enjoyed it keep up the great work thanks again and have a wonderful safe day!!!
Good catch and awesome video. Always amazes me at so much weight and power on such a narrow guage track.
That is not narrow gauge
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Awesome video of a rarely seen event. Thanks for sharing!
What a very cool clip!
That was icing on the cake
why just one car load. they gonna need about 20 or 30 more loads to keep that section stable
Not everything needs to be done right away. Ever done a huge project? you just take it one step at a time and by the end you have something nice.
Maybe they're union workers
They only had one side dump car on the property at the time. So it logically maked the most sense to have it on any job passing by the location and dump a load each time verses having a single car non-revenue train operating dozens of trips back and forth, tying up the line, and costing more money then it's worth. They were making the best out of a bad situation. Hopefully that clarifies things a bit.
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Very Nice, But, They dammed up the ditch/creek . Over time, everyone knows
"Mother Nature" usually wins these "battles" .
Yeah that's what I thought too. Damming the stream causing the water to rise will just undermine the tracks even more. What do I know. Really cool video.
The crick isnt dammed those big rocks are plenty porous. Nature will win in the end, hopefully after these guys retire.
@@openphoto These guys started this section as young men.
They are not damming up the creek, they are just pushing it back with rock to were it was once was.
That was an excellent video. I use to have a bunch of difco dump cars in ho but never seen one in use. I moved from Rockville MD to NC back in early nineties. I always thought MM would be a great RR to model. Thanks for sharing.
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Wait they've got all that washout to do but they only bring one load at a time?
A lot of those cars have been sitting on a side track in my town for a couple of weeks now
Every passing Train using this Lane should offer Services by dumping rocks same as the one on this Video.
1 car, should only take another 3 weeks to fill the washout.....
That's what I thought too. Would have been better to have several cars to make it fill faster.
But w multiple dump cars it would take longer, all the while blocking the road.
@@johnnypk1963doesn't look like a high traffic area.
@@johnnypk1963 they could have announced when it was planned for so people could use alternate routes. It might take a couple hours as opposed to several days.
that train is obviously using that run for another purpose and taking advantage of the fact that while passing, dump a load. there is very little waste there that I see. It's true though that just pulling 5 or 6 dump cars up there you might be done but that would not be cost effective when they are running that rail daily for another client.
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So how does the clutch not immediately disintegrate on these machines?
Shure the track edge up and run a pvc culvert away from the track would probably be a better long term solution.
Cool I work close to that area , nice video
Have you ever watched something then thought why did I watch this
Well this is one of those
Am I missing something? It looks like he made the problem worse. The creek is now completely blocked, so how is the water supposed flow freely?
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It gets interesting at 4:58
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beautiful sound of those engines
Those engines idling sounded real good
Going up in Maryland,the evening sounds of the day coming to an end was beautiful. Trains are also awesome too.
So they just do this as they're passing ?
It kinda makes sense ..
It's a wonder that D.E.P. and E.P.A. aren't complaining about a waterway being restricted.
it's big enough rock that the water will still fi links term thru
Using large fill material like what was shown being dumped here is extremely common in fill operations as it allows water to pass through with relatively minimal restriction so long as the fill material is decently large to start with. It has the added benefit of being more cost effective to use in the preliminary stages of site fill operations as it allows for less overall material to be needed to fill a space with smaller rock aka gravel being used at later stages for site completion. Look at it like this. If water can seep through hundreds of feet of solid rock to drip on your head when walking through a cave, it can make it through large fill material just fine. Also consider too that the fill material being used is a organic material. So the EPA would have minimal if any practical concerns. Hopefully that clarifies things.
-Nearly two decades of working for UP.
EPA isnt real if you cant see them!
They missed the erosion area by a mile. I guess the plan is to keep dumping fill until the erosion area is completely covered and level with the roadbed.....? Nice engines! I don't know how well they are maintained, but they look good and sound like real diesel engines.
I honestly thought it was going to have a conveyer sytem to reload the dump a few times .. couple guys in a pickup could do this faster
I think you're underestimating the scope of the work that was accomplished here. Even more so given the fact that car dumped between 70-100 tons of large fill material in about 30 seconds worth of time. Admittedly with only one side dump car on the property the scope of the work will naturally take time to completely, but no one ever said life was easy either.
On a related note, conveyor based gravel fill trains do exist but usually aren't used for preliminary fill operations at least on a large scale as larger fill materials are used initially to allow for soil drainage and to sure up a solid rock foundation before smaller fill material ie: gravel will be used as a sub-straight for the sites final completing. Larger material also has the benefit of taking up more space in a washout location allowing for less overall material to be needed to begin with hence why large fill is often the first material you see arriving on washouts or fill based construction areas. It's more expensive and less practical to use smaller crushed gravel for the entirety of a fill operation. Hopefully that clarifies a bit.
-Nearly two decades working for UP.
@@Henry5623 Oh! :( .. well yes .. frankly, that vastly large than I thought!! :)
Another one maybe next year....
At least traffic only had to wait nearly 10 minutes for that 30 second dump. O_o
Wow nice EMD SOUND i love it
Damn he put the hammer down and got the hell out of there
only one load at a time? why not one train with a bunch of loads to get it done?
Joe Rader Yeah... it’s due to the fact they only have one operational dump like that :/
They have 1 beat up ole dump car and it's free for them to stop 5m each trip to dump the ballast?
That's right around the corner from where I live!
All of those train cars in only one had stones in them what the hell
At the time they only had one side dump car available on the property. So it made the most rational sense to have it on any job that was passing the erosion site location to dump a load verses having a single car train, tying up the line, running back and forth operations, costing more money then it was worth. The roadbed itself wasn't in any immediate danger. So there wasn't an extreme sense of urgency driving the need for additional side dump cars being brought in as the line was still very much operational. Hopefully that explains things.
Oh that was very cool I’ve never seen one of those before. Did the little stream continue to flow?
Wow, that was pretty cool!
Hey thanks! Definitely a neat operation.
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Not a cooler feeling in the world than sitting at a railroad crossing and the train stops in front of you, then backs up a hair before stopping again giving you just a tease, awesome! Cool footage for sure thanks!
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Gonna need a few more LOL.
Absolutely! Wish they owned more and could do more at once.
How many tons of rock is that?
Thats a hole lot of train for one dumper.
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Loving the sound of this loco
Love seeing former Clinchfield Railroad hoppers in use.
not sure if building a dam will solve the problem, but interesting to think someone thinks it will
The Patrick Star method, take the water and push it somewhere else.
Using large fill material like what was demonstrated in this video is a extremely common practice in fill operations as it is big enough to allow water drainage plus is overall more cost effective in the initial stages of filling a site verses using man-made drainage options. If water can seep through hundreds of feet of solid rock to drop from the ceiling of caves it will have no problem moving through large fill material. Hopefully that clarifies a bit.
-Nearly two decades working for UP.
Is this a mainline or service line, just I note the track is a short track with a lot of joints (Sorry for my poor grammar)
Only ten more trips to go! I'm guessing maybe they have limited number of these dump trailers? If not, why don't they just load one train with 10-15 of them and get it done in one go?
They only have one dump car.
Gotta love all that jointed rail.
Wow... start at 4:00
Watch at 2 x speed I have seen frozen molasses move faster with more excitement.
The rail crew brought 1 dump box for a 6 dump box job.
This is why you sub contract this work out
If I was one of those cars waiting for nearly 10min, I'd probably be yelling "You D$%#, how dare you s$#@#"
Do they only have 1 dump car? looks like 30 or 40 more loads and they can start over at this rate
I love train ❤, beautiful sound
at minute 6:40 the power of the engines is fantastic