Union Pacific Derailment Cleanup at Butler Yard 8/21/18 With UP Work Train
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2018
- Filming the cleanup of a 13 car sand train derailment at the south end of Butler yard. Also UP equipment taking track plates off of the work train and the electrical company rebuilding the power lines. One of the trains going by the derailment area had UP 6706 (Ex CNW 8804).
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Had a friend who did this kind of work. They have to bulldoze trees to make a path in the country, and sometimes have to build a temporary track to allow traffic to continue on single tracks. It's hard work and they travel the entire USA depending on the size of the crash. The RR sends out an 18 wheeler with bathrooms and showers, plus bunks. A cafeteria trailer with a kitchen gets sent out. They work around the clock to get the trains back on track!
Building brand new things is one thing but fixing broken things that big where they were wrecked is something else. Great job.
Thanks for this excellent video which will educate those of us who want to learn more about railroads. I was impressed by the precise skill of many of the machines and people working to fix the damage done by the derailment.
Remarkable work crews from all entities! Their coordination in finishing the repair and rebuilds is impressive.
awesome crew clean up, just getting on with the job, tyvm for posting
What a well choreographed operation from everyone. Congratulations, you should all be very proud of yours kills 👌
Excellent footage, I'm glad the crew let you video them at work.
One of the best videos of derailment scenes I have ever watched. Thanks for the time spent taking the video and doing the editing. The cars into the building were crazy.
Thanks!
Penzey's spices was happy I'm sure. SHEESH. Does CP have to pay for the damages? 🤔🤷♀️
@@NYTrainzchaser
Hi,
This is the first clean up I have seen. But it would have been much more interesting and informative if someone would have explained what was going on in cleaning up! Besides the wind howling. Nobody explained how the wreck happened! I hope somebody reads this and responds to me! So I know something about it.
Nothing more dangerous than a recovery job, some great team work shown by the plant operators and the lines men.
You did a great job filming this. Thank you
Great catch on the clean up! Such a shame to see rolling stock damaged, especially new hoppers! I find this very interesting, been to a few myself to repair signalling equipment, but not as much damage as this one.
Thanks for capturing the process.
Cheers Gregg.
Thanks!
What a mess! But all credit to the people who cleared it all up, they certainly didnt hang around.
Love all of the coverage. You got it all.
Thanks for sharing.
Not the car being removed from the building!
I’m one of those picky PITA-types that are quick to rag on someone when they post a crappy video. But I’m also the first to stand up and praise you when you do good - and dude, you did GOOD! Your pans were masterful; not too fast, mostly smooth with a good leading edge. Sound really could have used a windsock, but weather can be a real bitch, even for pros. Editing was right on, not stupid and lame. Your camera positions were well-planned and resulted in effective story-telling shots. Having the right equipment sure making getting the shot easier, with less post production, but requires that big dose of preparation you used to its max benefit.What a joy to behold such a professional production. Out-freakin-standing, Brother! We want more…
Thanks!
Ditto to the above statements. Just ran into your channel, must say ... outstanding!!!
Nice vid. Good footage. I worked here in this yard back in the early 90s. The involved track is called the "grain yard lead". Also good to see an old CNW AC 8800 series still haunting the rails. CNW used these on the coal trains. The 8600s were used in general freight and potash trains.
@milo milo i hired on oct 93... butler yard ain't the same no more
@@25mfd Milwaukee isn't the same anymore grew up watching the C&NW and Milwaukee Road passenger trains. Lots of stuff from the 50s rail lines is gone. I know where the Butler yard is..
When I was a kid , they called it the beer line . Grain elevators east of Port Washington rd. and south of Hampton Ave. been gone a long time.
@@Og-Judy yea i remember those elevators... those were the schlitz elevators... as a student condr on the granville job, we switched that place back in late 93... an old switchmen told me that when it was still schlitz way back when, they had vending machines in there, that dispensed beer... never seen that before... he then said that schlitz stopped letting "outsiders" (what they really meant were the drunk switchmen) get beer from the machines because the switchmen would empty the machines out
Much respect to the crews..... tough job.... safety first ......
Rain likely washed out the underground. But did you see the massive rail length ? continual rails for the big track laying / replacing machines. Takes out the old track and ties and replaces both on the fly.
Pretty cool seeing the long rails on the work train. I haven't seen UP's before. The railing on a section, I'm guessing isn't used anymore, looked like each section was porpoising pretty bad.
Top class vid showing the grittier side of railroading really enjoyed this regards from england
Thanks!
Thanks!
Your video quality is simply outstanding in clarity. The camera you use must be top notch stuff . The picture looks as if Im standing right there. Thanks for the great videos.
Would have been nice to see how they got the cars out of the building. Nice video anyways because it showed what goes on around a derailment site.
I second the “Wow” comment. It may work out to be a lack of maintenance, but not always. Sometimes rocks get caught in the points or a wheel will pick the points and damage the throw bar enough to cause a mess like this. I saw some workers in Hulcher safety gear. They don’t short-crew any job. There was an article in Trains magazine about Hulcher and the other derailment cleanup specialists. It can get quite involved. This was probably very simple since it was sand cars.
I bought one of Hulcher's 977Ls in 1983...They upgraded to 973s with hydraulic winch and camera to see the winch..
This would not have had anything to do with a switch, it was mostly likely a rail cause like a broken rail or wide gauge. It's obvious they were moving at least 25mph to cause such damage. "Picking a switch" isn't a thing. Not sure why foamers keep that myth going. Rocks dont get into a switch point either. I've cleaned up hundreds of derailments in my career, and never seen it be a cause.
@@TheNemosdaddy My friend put a penny on the track once by a curve. Bet that was it.
Thank you soooooo much for the video. I watched and enjoyed from beginning to end.
I'd give this vid a 10 if it weren't for the wind. Lol
We used to go out & cleanup derailments. Take a D8 & push the cars off to the side so the RR could quickly repair the rails and get the line open again. Then we would cut up the cars. RR salvaged the trucks. Many times there were cars that looked minimally damaged, but they got cut up anyway. Sometimes we got some good salvage from the contents. I was surprised at the # of derailments there were. Just getting a D8 to some of the remote locations was a challenge given the state of rural bridges.
I worked on the Clinchfield RR, when there was a Clinchfield. We had a D9 with a push cat blade so it wouldn’t hang over the sides of the flat car. We set it off the car right at the wreck site with our 250 ton Derrick. Good efficient set up but CSX got rid of all of that old timey railroading
@@nonickname9930 Our D9 had a cushion push blade also but it was too heavy for a lot of the rural bridges.
Larry Schweitzer well that would put a hitch in your git-along. Clinchfield was overbuilt for it’s time, And didn’t have that problem
That's not how it's done anymore.
That sure is a badass excavator modification.
😂 it's a cheap american Sennebogen copy ... nothing badass ... just a cheap copy ...
@@julianreverse Orders are pouring in for the Sennebogen microwave ovens that seat 50.
Excellent video, especially interesting to those of us who are newbie Railfans.
Thanks!
And dangerous 2 I appreciate the gentleman doing what they're doing and it's dangerous work. God bless them.
Worked a few derailments in my 27 years with the BN and they are not fun.
Same as in the UK-2 guys working, 20 watching!
Can't imagine US freight railroads ever really wanting large-scale electrification. A derailment would be an even bigger pain in the neck!
Good clean up job. I have no complaints.
It amazed me they’re working on top of each other. Who choreographs all that all that?
Bendito y maravilloso país, tienen todo previsto ,preparado y todas las máquinas requeridas para reparar y subsanar cualquier falla, son maravillosos,gracias.
lol Hobo lives. Hobo done bought the big one somewhere up in the NE. Walking between two trains with a backpack on and it snagged on a train. End of Hobo. He did however put a lot of interesting videos up
What do they do with the 'broken' cars? Haul them off to be scrapped or repair them?
The utility was very quick on the pole replacement. This would've been a cake walk for them: daylight, blue skies, calm conditions. Think of when they do this in the middle of the night, in winter, with the elements howling all around them. That's usually when they have to do repairs.
And far to often there is a car wrapped around the damn pole.
@@g.r.4853 Except these lines are not by public streets. I'm sure Penzey's Spices were real happy with freight hopper cars in the side of their building
It would be interesting to know, after everything is restored, what the total cost of the derailment was, including damage to the building, lost revenue to the building owner/lessee, and the cost of the utility repair. The railroad repair contractor crew and equipment alone had to have been $75 grand to $100 grand a day.
That was easily a million dollar plus derailment. Wrecking contractors alone was probably 250k.
I like to watch about mega building , destruction, repairing , this is interesting to watch and human can do almost anything , except death !! Very good filming !!!!!
the derailment crew numbers have been cut to small size. before there used to be 7 to 8 working. now you will see 3 and the those standing around are managers. this is the only time these managers do something and that is stand around.
yea dagnabbit.
Hey Boss the Door you wanted in the wall is done , just have to until train car is removed.
Well that was different, thank you for the upload
We are watching The SILVER STREAK ! Right now on TV...
My Girl and I goto sleep listening to train videos ... even like this one..
Whoop! There it went! The train fell down and broke his crown and Amtrak came tumbling after.
That was funnier than it should have been.
I could hear the occupants of that building now, "Like a tornado it sounded like a freight train." "Oh, It was a freight train?'
Awesome video keep up with a great work and be safe out there.
Thanks!
imagine working in a warehouse and suddenly you hear loud crashes and bangs from outside followed by a rail car just crashing in through the wall behind you.
Very impressive! Everyone just doing a great job. Great video too, engineering noises not irritating irrelevant background music.
Thanks!
seems like ahold lot of people watching a few people actually work. What is this, highway construction?
Wow, what a lot of work.
Well, that corn meal is unedible
Imagine working away in a building isolated (or so you thought) from the rail tracks beside you by a solid wall. When, suddenly, a couple of railcars break through that wall. I hope there were no injuries or fatalities. I wish I could have seen how they removed those cars with further damage to the building.
Great catch of the EMD lashup.
One of those great union jobs...a couple guys working while the majority stand and watch.
You have never had a real job have you?
Were you able to secure any footage of the cars being removed from the buildings? That must have been exciting for anyone watching how these crews do the delicate work of lift and remove with their humungous machines! The linemen have a difficult time also.
Did 'they' ever publish what cause the derailment?
Excellent steady work with a very steep telephoto! What camera / lens?
Always fascinating to see how they rig the lifts.
Great video!
After watching the entire video, it's a document on how it's done.
Some of it seems to be machines that are a bit small for the job, resulting in some awkward lifts.
Really enjoyed it.
Thanks! The camera is a Sony DSC-HX80 with 30x zoom.
UP has entered the building
Some questions:
1. Are the cars involved scrapped or are parts of them salvaged? Who determines what parts are safe enough to reuse?
2. After the cleanup, does NTSB or some other agency pass on the repair work to track and infrastructure?
3. Does this derailment go on the record of the train crew that was handling the train at the time?
1: I would imagine everything involved is scrapped once insurance releases it.
2: No entirely sure. Someone obviously inspects the track after the work is finished.
3: That depends, if the derailment was the fault of train handling, then it goes on the engineer. Or if it was something such as the conductor watching/riding the shove, running through a switch, and then pulling back through it. If it's a fault of the car/wheels/picked switch/rolled rail/etc.. then no, the crew is not at fault. Unfortunately, most carriers now days WILL find someone to blame.
1. All scrapped. You cannot steal parts off a car owned by a private entity or another railroad. There is a value assigned to the car, each railroad has a department that does this sort of stuff. The car owners are contacted and asked what they'd like to do. In this situation the cars are obviously mostly scrapped, so the railraod will buy the car for it's depreciated value from the car owner and then sell it to a scrap contractor. Sometimes they are loaded up and sent to a heavy repair shop. There is no insurance. All railroads are self insured.
2. NTSB is not a regulatory agency. They only get involved in the biggest of derailments at the FRA's request. Only people saying the work/cars is ok is the railroad's own people. Track inspectors, signalman, car dept, etc. Rerailed rolling stock either have to have a roller bearing inspection or replacement depending on how far they were on the ground per AAR rules.
3. If the crew is at fault, absolutely it would be on their record. It all depends on the cause of the derailment. If it's a track cause, it may be a track inspector written up.
@@TheNemosdaddy Thank you. I posted that awhile back, didn't think I'd get a response. I used to work in a mill environment. Management pushed safety and maintenance as far less time consuming and cheaper than major downtime from a breakdown.
US rails are hitting the shitter in terms of maintenance and use. Given the many hundreds of miles of track I've seen in my lifetime, I've only seen about 10 trains running, each a separate occasion, with either regular passengers or cargo. We need to rebuild our network so shit like this doesn't repeat as often as it does. Like if you agree
This must have been a million dollar derailment.Track,cars,electcal & building.Wow.
I've worked 3 vehicle vs train wrecks one was so busy bout 5-6 trains an hour, while investigators did their job and prior to me removing tractor trailer combo, rail gang arrived tracked bout 300' bypassing wreck site, allowed me much needed time to remove truck and trailer that was struck by Amtrak.
These was incredible things seeing trains blow over!! Sherman Pass Wyo! We saw lots of blow over Rail car's and a occasional Locomotive flying about 10feet airborne!
Paul are you related to Amy Ayers?
I wonder how much Hulcher gets for a cleanup like this ? I bet they don't come cheap..
I wanted to see what happened when they pulled the hopper out of the warehouse, whether the building would collapse or not!
Hey no nickname that was very well explained yes a lot of waiting around
Well, Ollie, this is another fine mess you've gotten us into.
Homer Simpson at the controls
@@gregjeffcoat4258no joe biden
Glad , Uncle Pete getting the cleanup , repair and replacement bill , Quite a mess !
What a brave job. Each in its square . I hope that in this derailment there were no injured people. After this hard work, the way is to take that chilled chop.
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How about that building with those happens one through the wall of that block building, would of liked to see it pulled out
Just like a memory capsule.
Few years' bac.
I saw this video under an old yt)a.-
I was like my goodies' I know these engines.....
Then I saw her in the cab of one of the mixed manifests heading to butler that day.....
My father and I were in complete disarray. Like how? How??? We saw her on the ground before she ihre was in the cab 😮😮😮
From a french fanrailroad: it is a very interesting and good movie...
Thanks!
@ 42:33...so if going round a curve..does the rail being carried sort of Bend too???..
I am not allowed to drive the train,or even ring the bell! But let the damn thing jump the track and see who catches hell.! Managers yard masters train masters car repair foreman. We make sure we all go home safely.
The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, not like they did BACK in 1954.
I can just Imagine the PEOPLE driving on Capitol(underneath the bridge) were like!😵💥💨
at 43:00 how are those straight steel rails (on the green rack cars) riding on a curved track? that always fascinated me
Awesome Metallurgy !
The rails are flexible they are made that way.
It's funny how everyone is asking questions about the video. But no one is getting a response back from NY Trainzchaser.😂
How much information do you know about this that you filmed?
holy schneikies!! a tri-clops SD60 in 2018?!? 👍👍👍
Up 2247
Butler yard is in Milwaukee Wisconsin
why does that matter
Charlotte Whyte ...Cuz.... Location, location, location....lol
@@charlottewhyte9804 Ummmm, so we know where in the United States this happened!!
AND it is very WINDY.
17:28 Nothing's worse than sitting there enjoying your lunch and a train barges in.
WhaT A BIZZARE DERAILMENT , IT CAUSED THE HOPPER TO GO THRU THE BUILDING? great video thanks for posting.
Joe Vidal in the early ‘80’s a train wreck at Pigeon Roost, N.C., we cleaned up a wrecked coal train that put a draw head through the living room wall of a house, right beside of a lady sitting and watching tv.
Surely the "Bell" ringing on loco's is long past it's sell-by date by now?
No. That's an alert everyone on the ground knows that means a train is in motion. Not everyone can see the train that is in motion.
I love quiet achievers !
"Hobo Lives" I like the lack of graffiti art. Original! 3:58
wow amazing. thats messed up it took out building and a telephone pole .I know some people where mad with no lights or telephone.
Erik Max Q Mcc Utility pole is the correct terminology these days. The phone companies took down almost all their overhead line construction in favor of cable over 50 years ago.
Doesn't matter, yankee. Here in The South they will FOREVER be referred to as "Telephone poles"!
*Power pole
Superbe travail effectué en finesse avec des monstres d'acier et au millimètre près. C'est une entreprise d'artistes...
15:00 Is that where you needed the new door ?
rail loading/unloading deck
The train that came through at 10:30 did not have a buffer car between the locomotives and the tank cars. I thought that was required?
It looks like the cars were empty so it would not need a buffer car.
NY Trainzchaser Thanks. Nice video and I learned a few thing too!
the british used to do all of this with large balloons. could lift an engine in a couple of mins. awesome to watch.
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Lifted a 395,000 lb or there about engine? Gotta be kidding.
@@thomasmleahy6218 seen it done. a class 40 derailed on a pair of points where i worked. (now a 93) a van arrived and the workers pulled over what looked to be a rubber sack, and a small compressor. within 15 mins, the engine was back on the rails.
Nice video, do you know what the cause was?
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Do they have to go under that leaning car?
Douglass Wilkin Yes, no other way to get them cables hooked up to move it.
0:37 HEY I SEE CSX 4695! IT WAS RETIRED BUT WAS IN THE 2004 Zephyrhills collision.
As a non America can someone tell me why the utilities are not underground?
Ryan Duffy they are in newer subdivisions. There are areas where it is simply not practical to run distribution circuits underground (like areas prone to flooding or unstable / rocky ground), and underground transmission lines are far more expensive and cannot carry as much load as overhead lines. If properly maintained, overhead lines can be as reliable if not more so than underground lines. One municipal utility in my area decided to put their system underground and they had to hike their rates 60% to pay for the project.
For one thing, most "utilities" in the United States are underground. Water and gas service is underground. Sewers are underground. Most cable TV and telephone services are underground. Some power lines are underground. Underground electrical service has its pros and cons. Its 'cons' include much more expensive installation and maintenance, much longer time to complete repair and maintenance, harder to modify and/or tap into, and much more planning and overhead involved in construction. The big 'pros' are you don't have to look at it, and it's not usually affected by weather. Unless there's a flood, then you're still out of luck.
Who decided to put the scrap yard so close to the mainline?? lol
Neat to see ROCK ISLAND at 52:42 !
Anyone know what type of CAT those side-booms are based on?
You can take this to the bank, except for power poles and buildings, what ever is in the way of moving the junk will get pushed out of the way as well. They will get track sections down and get trains going through there and worry about the damage later. There was a two train derailment in the little town where I live, cars and locomotives burning. Train going east derailed, train going west ran into the wreck as it happened. The railroad guys said there would be trains through here 24 hours after the wreck. I would of bet everything I owned it would not happen. Both east and west lines were gone for at least a 1/4 mile or more. That night right around the time of the accident the night before the first train came through. It looked like a war movie, stuff still burning, torches spraying sparks, the track sections were no were near flat, but the first train made it through. Bobbing up and down and creeping along, what a sight.
Yea those crews are truly an amazing bunch. It's almost like watching ants or bees work with the amount of speed and precision they have
Like road work all over the USA, a few guys working and the rest are "supervising".
What a terrible mess !
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