got to give respect to Daru dude out there carrying a character and whole I-no community on his back . he made into top 8 at Evo twice and his I-no is so good that he made other pros think she's op
Tbh looking at sonic sols characters in other games. It kind of seems like he needs to play a top 5, or he’s just done. I don’t blame him for doing that at a tournament level, but it also makes me take his words with a grain of salt.
He’s been my favorite player since strive started I watch his live stream at least once a week usually multiple days. He’s a magician, it’s just like he understands what to push every second.
As an I-no main Daru's a huge inspiration so I was going absolutely insane watching this live, It's a great reminder that a bad matchup isn't an excuse or the end of it
I think one of the biggest problems most players face vs HC is that he forces you to go against your muscle memory simply because risk reward and execution are a limiting factors daru doing it with ino makes me feel like the counterplay can be pushed even farther. It's hard to know when to challenge when gun is as freeform as it is.
After watching Kizzie's Evo video where he spent more time shitting on I-No players than talking about anything else and saying Daru just gambles more than other I-No's I'm glad we have a video to show how much of a beast this guy actually is. I dropped I-No MONTHS ago, but Daru is still my fav player to watch in Guilty Gear.
I mean Kizzie isn't wrong to some degree. Daru's propensity to guess right and not wavering in his decisions in a dicey match up sets him apart not only as a char specialist but as a top rank player. But it also shows that with his extensive knowledge of the MU, he would rather take HCs in that EVO main stage than say some of the best Sol's running.
I personally appreciate the recaps at least every once in a while. It helps me see things I wouldn't normally pick out on my own. Thanks for the content, and keep it up. Looking forward to more Granblue from you when Rise Drops.
Not really. He was just a far better player. If he played a higher tier character he would have done even better. I think the balance should be like that in an ideal fighting game but its just not. Objectively other characters do what she can but way better with damage sticking around longer, bigger hitbox attacks, more utility. He probably would have won the tourney if he went Leo or May and made them his main. When you're playing for money all that matters is the best, reliable path to get the win. Stubbornly sticking to characters because they look cool or you like them is for when you play it as a hobby. He handicapped himself.
@@thepunisherxxx6804 I will not disagree with you. A smart player plays strong characters. Especially for money. However i do believe gobou is a stronger player, it’s not character . Getting into top 8 at evo japan makes you a god imo. Daru plays for the love of ino. Nothing more.
@@pktreturns4912 I hear you and I love how Daru plays, but like we both said if I was Daru I'd want that prize money, and the attention you get from winning. That translates to more viewers online for his streams too. Maybe Daru is rich and it doesn't matter but if he's not I think it was a mistake to stick with I-No stubbornly like that in a tourney.
Not at all. He simply was a way better player than the happy chaos. Individual performances and matchups don't represent overall balance. Her kit is weak and done better by so many others with bigger hitboxes, moves staying out longer. I don't think the game is balanced well. You shouldn't be able to get 50% damage, knock them through the wall, PLUS a positive bonus, plus the potential for another wall trap. Happy Chaos has too much tools and utility and its all super good and super duper easy to land (gun, ball, rolls, running shots). Almost half the roster is crap or meh. That isn't good balance.
Yeah its alright if other I-No players waver in their faith. Daru as a player is so phenomenal that not only can he thread the match up so well but capitalize in opportunities when pushes for his openings. A character specialist of the highest caliber is what it truly takes to push I-No against some of the best in the big stage of EVO GG Strive.
I can not imagine how much testing daru had to do to win these matches. The man is absolutely legendary for winning these, but I guess I would argue that he might have burned himself out on fighting chaos players.
dope vid - great to see an in-depth look (interaction-by-interaction) on how one of the greats overcame a rough MU twice in a row on the big stage, analyzed by one of the premier (former 😭) I-No's himself! would love to see more Tournament Footage analysis, really concise way of picking up a bit more game knowledge as a viewer!
I totally agree with daru about preferring fighting chaos over sol. Characters with dp’s are just a fucking nightmare for me these days. Not doing well in neutral is fine, but if a character has 50 tension and a dp it’s literally a get out of jail free card.
I wish Uni got remastered or something, but hearing the soundtrack makes me wanna play this game. Too bad i can basicly only play it local since the game doesnt support rollback.
I still think Daru's skill contributed way more to this matchup than anything else. Even knowing how good chemical love is to counter HC's reload, I would still be playing the blocking game in this matchup. He's too good
Man when i playied in open beta i was main i-no but now training and trying New characters i liked more anji, ram and sol but i want to be better with i-no too i love her moveset
@@jellophant9716 sure, but i dont understand why invalidate 500+ hours of grinding becuase of changes, its like your not playing to improve, your playing just for winning.
@@DukeApples Bruh he is a tournament player, of course hes playing to win. Diaphone is not your average player he is already godlike and he clearly has figured out how to approach fighting games. And he didn't "invalidate" 500 hours of grinding by picking a different character i don't even see how that works.
I really don't like how they've been balancing this game. They'll cripple characters and then hand them a crutch, or give them a pain killer and break their legs (in I-No's case). It makes me feel like they don't have a good handle on the new systems, characters, gimmicks, etc. Really glad Daru is able to persevere and even shine with his character; most people I know dropped this game after trying to play their mains from previous GGs.
This is why Loyalist Players Best Players, and talking about Sonic Sol in the same video talking about Daru is HERESY, one scrub playing to get money from a game vs a king enjoying a game where he eventually get money just by playing the character he likes. This is why you hear people like Daigo talk about don't giving a shit on tournament money to switch mains vs usual NA/EU mercenary trying to change characters faster than clothes to get some money with zero love for the character or game they are in.
![[Daru I-No] Guiltygear strive Season3 I-No Basic Combo guide](/img/1.gif)
got to give respect to Daru dude out there carrying a character and whole I-no community on his back . he made into top 8 at Evo twice and his I-no is so good that he made other pros think she's op
Ino vs HC was so bad it killed sonic sol
lol
Sonic still has on coupium
Tbh looking at sonic sols characters in other games. It kind of seems like he needs to play a top 5, or he’s just done. I don’t blame him for doing that at a tournament level, but it also makes me take his words with a grain of salt.
and his whole reason was that daru got her nerfed and "dropped" her too wich is kinda ironic.
Does it take much to do that tho?
Daru is like the only string of motivation i have sticking to Ino
fr watching him in top 8 made me want to comeback to Strive and play I-no again
@@shadowofthenorthstar989 please do, we need more rock witches : ' D
He’s been my favorite player since strive started I watch his live stream at least once a week usually multiple days. He’s a magician, it’s just like he understands what to push every second.
Its not scrub mentality but the amount of dopamine seeing a character bulldoze at happy chaos sparks so much joy.
As an I-no main Daru's a huge inspiration so I was going absolutely insane watching this live, It's a great reminder that a bad matchup isn't an excuse or the end of it
Please do more analysis content! I don't want to have to depend on listening to Hotashi verbally abuse his Metafy clients 😂
Lmfao actually spittin
Lmao same
I think one of the biggest problems most players face vs HC is that he forces you to go against your muscle memory simply because risk reward and execution are a limiting factors
daru doing it with ino makes me feel like the counterplay can be pushed even farther.
It's hard to know when to challenge when gun is as freeform as it is.
After watching Kizzie's Evo video where he spent more time shitting on I-No players than talking about anything else and saying Daru just gambles more than other I-No's I'm glad we have a video to show how much of a beast this guy actually is. I dropped I-No MONTHS ago, but Daru is still my fav player to watch in Guilty Gear.
I mean Kizzie isn't wrong to some degree. Daru's propensity to guess right and not wavering in his decisions in a dicey match up sets him apart not only as a char specialist but as a top rank player. But it also shows that with his extensive knowledge of the MU, he would rather take HCs in that EVO main stage than say some of the best Sol's running.
@@t4d0W Gambling's not a bad strategy when you always win
@@juniperrodley9843It's not a bad strategy, it's just that it's also not a good strategy either. It just depends on if you win the gamble or not.
@@Akira_1001 fr
I personally appreciate the recaps at least every once in a while. It helps me see things I wouldn't normally pick out on my own. Thanks for the content, and keep it up. Looking forward to more Granblue from you when Rise Drops.
I was at Evo Japan. I cried when he beat the first HC. He proved at the end the day it’s player skill and a love for your character that wins. ❤
Straight up, dude. If you trust in your character you can find a way to meet the toughest match ups 👍
Not really. He was just a far better player. If he played a higher tier character he would have done even better. I think the balance should be like that in an ideal fighting game but its just not. Objectively other characters do what she can but way better with damage sticking around longer, bigger hitbox attacks, more utility. He probably would have won the tourney if he went Leo or May and made them his main.
When you're playing for money all that matters is the best, reliable path to get the win. Stubbornly sticking to characters because they look cool or you like them is for when you play it as a hobby. He handicapped himself.
@@thepunisherxxx6804 I will not disagree with you. A smart player plays strong characters. Especially for money. However i do believe gobou is a stronger player, it’s not character . Getting into top 8 at evo japan makes you a god imo. Daru plays for the love of ino. Nothing more.
@@pktreturns4912 I hear you and I love how Daru plays, but like we both said if I was Daru I'd want that prize money, and the attention you get from winning. That translates to more viewers online for his streams too.
Maybe Daru is rich and it doesn't matter but if he's not I think it was a mistake to stick with I-No stubbornly like that in a tourney.
played Smash and NASB under a dif name. Looking for something new. GGST has me intrigued thanks to folks like you.
Love the content so far!
Watching Daru makes me want to pick up and learn I-No. It’s always a great time watching him play.
She's a super fun character!
Daru's matches were, for me, the most fun from the top 8. In particular, his set with Gobou felt like the real grand final.
Would love to see more shorter-form tournament recaps like this when you see something interesting! Looking forward to the next video, keep it up bro!
I think its a pretty good sign of balance when one of the worst matchups in the game has so many options to open up the matchup
Not at all. He simply was a way better player than the happy chaos. Individual performances and matchups don't represent overall balance. Her kit is weak and done better by so many others with bigger hitboxes, moves staying out longer.
I don't think the game is balanced well. You shouldn't be able to get 50% damage, knock them through the wall, PLUS a positive bonus, plus the potential for another wall trap. Happy Chaos has too much tools and utility and its all super good and super duper easy to land (gun, ball, rolls, running shots).
Almost half the roster is crap or meh. That isn't good balance.
Yeah its alright if other I-No players waver in their faith. Daru as a player is so phenomenal that not only can he thread the match up so well but capitalize in opportunities when pushes for his openings. A character specialist of the highest caliber is what it truly takes to push I-No against some of the best in the big stage of EVO GG Strive.
Diaphone i swear you look like a 90s cop lol, this is also perfect cuz im learning inoooo
I can not imagine how much testing daru had to do to win these matches. The man is absolutely legendary for winning these, but I guess I would argue that he might have burned himself out on fighting chaos players.
They’re 2 different characters, I-No, and Daru-I-No. Not the same.
Daru the Heart of GG. For me.
Dont let Sonic Sol see this
"Am I-no"
Goat
at this point ino is so rare im just happy to play one when i find one. great to see daru back at it again.
Great analysis Diaphone
dope vid - great to see an in-depth look (interaction-by-interaction) on how one of the greats overcame a rough MU twice in a row on the big stage, analyzed by one of the premier (former 😭) I-No's himself!
would love to see more Tournament Footage analysis, really concise way of picking up a bit more game knowledge as a viewer!
"Don't give up on her" ✊
Every time I see Ino in a jp tier list in top 10 I immmediately wonder how often the list maker plays Daru
i wanna be him so bad dude is 37yo destroying tourneys
Haha reminds me of when StarCraft 2 fans joke “Just play like Maru!”
Love this style of vid
Daru got that dawg in him frfr
I totally agree with daru about preferring fighting chaos over sol. Characters with dp’s are just a fucking nightmare for me these days. Not doing well in neutral is fine, but if a character has 50 tension and a dp it’s literally a get out of jail free card.
Excuse me, have you got a permit for that mustache?
Our lord and savior Daru
I wish Uni got remastered or something, but hearing the soundtrack makes me wanna play this game. Too bad i can basicly only play it local since the game doesnt support rollback.
INO BOYZ
Lets gooo, the stache is back
The heart and souls of all ino players
I still think Daru's skill contributed way more to this matchup than anything else. Even knowing how good chemical love is to counter HC's reload, I would still be playing the blocking game in this matchup. He's too good
Daru is just that good
I wonder how these matches would have gone pre nerf? I see a couple moments where HCs shortened meter made quite a difference.
Dev: What? The match up is becoming easier for I-No against HC? Well. Time to nerf I-No again!
He's such a madlad!
Amazing!
How?
Oh, it's Daru's I--NO
Yknow i didnt even know about that note prc buff, thats like a 50 tension yrc....... Can we give that to Baikens tatami pls and thank you
Now if only we can get a Millia to beat a Potemkin in top 8.
The hardest part about this is pot making top 8, not milia winning lol
I guess I-No is HC's boss after all...
Daru not I-no, the matchup is still ass
Tbf tho both sol and HC mu feels like it’s you vs a myriad of rps and a broomstick
Man when i playied in open beta i was main i-no but now training and trying New characters i liked more anji, ram and sol but i want to be better with i-no too i love her moveset
My mans used a SonicSol quote 💀
But Daru the goat 🙏
Daru is so fun to watch holy moly.
beautiful
HC matches are very winnable for us I-No mains now. It's tough, like with any good zoner. But not impossible like it used to be.
Sajam was right about the mustache
good lord sajam was right about that 'stache
Pls do more analysis content bro this was really good!
Daru the god
What do you mean by HCL? I know the CL stands for chemical love as in the name of the move but what does the H mean?
One of my carry moves got nurfed, so i dropped the character? Like wtf, is that rly as far as character loyalty goes?
Some people don't care about that they pick characters based on strong moves that feel good.
loyalty to playing what you want is the only real loyalty
@@jellophant9716 sure, but i dont understand why invalidate 500+ hours of grinding becuase of changes, its like your not playing to improve, your playing just for winning.
@@cronosdimitri4584 just seems like your only loyalty is the Victory screen, is that the correct way to approach fighting games?
@@DukeApples Bruh he is a tournament player, of course hes playing to win. Diaphone is not your average player he is already godlike and he clearly has figured out how to approach fighting games. And he didn't "invalidate" 500 hours of grinding by picking a different character i don't even see how that works.
I really don't like how they've been balancing this game. They'll cripple characters and then hand them a crutch, or give them a pain killer and break their legs (in I-No's case). It makes me feel like they don't have a good handle on the new systems, characters, gimmicks, etc. Really glad Daru is able to persevere and even shine with his character; most people I know dropped this game after trying to play their mains from previous GGs.
song at 2:50?
Sol loses way more to characters than Ino in proportional rankings on ratings update. There even Ino has a winning rate against HC at 60%.
Can u do some gobou games? I love that guy
I just started this game with the Xbox release. Idk if it's just me but this game defense options are terrible... But then again I am fairly new to it
This is why Loyalist Players Best Players, and talking about Sonic Sol in the same video talking about Daru is HERESY, one scrub playing to get money from a game vs a king enjoying a game where he eventually get money just by playing the character he likes. This is why you hear people like Daigo talk about don't giving a shit on tournament money to switch mains vs usual NA/EU mercenary trying to change characters faster than clothes to get some money with zero love for the character or game they are in.
They need to delete happy chaos
Yeah I'm not on the Sol hype train but he's way more annoying than HC for me rn.
Gotta respect a person who looks at a 9-1 matchup and says "I dont give a fuck"
Cut the stache lol
I feel the US seen is still under rating sol
And I-No
The amount of work you need to put into I-No for every match up is ridiculous
Lets just hope Tyurara wipes out the rest of the competitors and loses to Daru this time.
If daru quit ino wouldve vanished from evo 😂
daru diff tbh
am
Skill issue
Match-up ? lmao it exist ? no :) Only your adaptability exist. I-no can win vs all characters if you play clever and quickly manage to adapt.
Match-up ? lmao it exist ? no :) Only your adaptability exist. I-no can win vs all characters if you play clever and quickly manage to adapt.
In a life or death situation. Would you rather play pick happy chaos against happy chaos. Or ino against happy chaos? I'll wait.
@@dijonpsalm6938 ino
nice pasta
@@dijonpsalm6938 Since I can't play HC at all, I guess I'd have to go with I-No XD