I heard from several other ani tubers that the author of demon slayer started rushing at this point in the manga. Since she was experiencing several personal problems, and shonen jump refused to give her a break. So she rushed the rest of the story, which is terrible and makes shonen jump look even worse now. They treated bleach author Tite Kubo in a similar way when he was writing the thousand year blood war.
Is there a single author in Shonen Jump that hasn't been treated like this? You'd think new authors would be better prepared with the years of suffering they have to learn from, but the same exact thing keeps happening. It's almost like it's objectively too much work for one author and some assistance to do all the time, but it's Japan so they'll never change it.
Honestly, this makes so much sense. I felt like a lot of plot points were just dropped for no reason. It sucks ro have these artists not be able to created what they truly envisioned because of corporate greed.
She should have just quit. No way Shounen Jump is just going to leave Demon Slayer on hiatus so she could have threatened them with quitting. It would have given her bargaining power
Genya's whole deal with being able to consume demons, while random, was badass as fuck -- and then they proceeded to do absolutely nothing with it. There were so many points I was screaming "THERE'S A DETACHED LIMB RIGHT THERE! EAT IT, YOU FUCKING MORON!" It could have been a really cool way to explore the relationship between humans and demons by having this one fringe case of a human that predates on demons instead of the other way around. Hell, I think having lower demons be scared of a dude like that would be unquestionably tight. But they just did nothing with such a cool concept.
@@mahistv Like why the fuck do we see Genya in battle only AFTER he's powered up? Why can't there be a shot of him fighting a lower demon, having this demon bant about how Genya can't even use total concentration, and then watch in *horror* as Genya slices his arm of, fucking EATS IT, and then this demon realizes that HE'S now the prey in this equation?
You do have a point about Mitsuri. Out of all of the good guys, Mitsuri seemed to be the least injured. There is no way she should be giving up at that point(5:35). Her giving giving up highlights how much plot armor the other characters get. If Tanjiro can magically recover from a broken foot(8:58) and have the strength to finish the fight, then Mitsuri should be able to dance with Sekido all night long.
I don't blame Misturi, that drum mode demon was on some other kind of stuff. Tanjiro and the squad would have been no diffed if she didn't pull up. The problem is that it's off screen and on screen mist hashira makes a joke out of the other upper rank. Thus making her look bad
One thing i never understood about DS whenever it introduces a demon backstory is that they always show that the demons were horribly treated in their previous life by the humans hence their hatred towards them, yet we never once explored this concept any further than "They were treated horribly by the humans." And idk have Tanjiro go through these conflict to 'Develop' as a character?
We've only seen like 2 backstories where they got treated like shit by others. Upper 6 and drum demon. That's it. I really don't know why people seem to have bad memory when it comes to ds
Honestly the marks powerscaling makes zero sense. Muichiro goes from getting no diffed by Gyokko to reversing the situation, and in the infinity castle arc every time a slayer unlocks the mark, the uppermoon they're fighting just goes "oh, hes faster now" and goes right back to kicking the slayers asses
the worst part is the marks being such a big deal in this arc and the next all the characters in this that got theirs now are weaker than thier unmarked teammates like wtf
Upper two and upper one are drastically more powerful than the lower ranks. Even upper three is. That's just how it is, they wouldn't even have a chance of winning without the mark. Not to mention, upper one literally has a mark himself. However, do acknowledge that Upper Two was taken down by unmarked slayers + deadly ass poison.
@@Hivatel mitsuri kanroji was being outperformed by a heavily injured giyu and an unmarked iguro, muichiro tokito is the one I can understand because he lacks experience even though he's strong but seeing him lose like that wasn't nice
That's because the top 3 moons are leagues above even Hantengu, let alone anyone below Hantengu. Here are some spoilers: First and foremost, Akaza.Akaza.The guy who gets stronger and stronger the more fighting spirit his opponent has. The guy who became the 4th strongest demon in existence without eating women, something that is stated to give a massive buff to the demon who does it. From his speed to his destructive capabilities, to the fact that he was unkillable by anything other than the sun, you can see WHY he's not fazed by the marks. Then, Douma. His cryo techniques are a direct counter to slayers because they can freeze people's lungs in seconds. The only reason he lost was because he ate, get this, 700x the lethal dose of the poison used to kill demons. And that STILL didn't put him down, they had to finish him off manually. Not to mention he was fucking around until the poison started melting him. And last but not least, Kokushibo. Faster and stronger than any demon slayer and demon aside from Muzan. The guy who had to have every last drop of his blood sapped away from him AND throw the fight in order to die. He was hauling ass prior to that because, unlike every demon slayer, his moon breathing has a physical form. Yes, he actually produces crescent moons that slice people apart when he does his techniques.
The reason is simple - they were juggling backstories, flashbacks and fights, instead of giving it one after the other like they did in the previous season
The pacing been off since Muzan killed the lower moons. They should’ve been kept alive as fodder for tanjiro and the gang to level up by defeating, instead we get miraculous power jumps for no good reason besides “dA pLoT”
Gyutaro was actually capable of being Upper Moon 4, however he doesn't care about the rank he cares about protecting his sister. Same with Rui, he could have been a higher Lower Moon but didn't care to be one, he just wanted his family
@@mahistv I mean, I personally give attack power to Guytaro and Daki, but they're kinda blitz characters without much versatility or massively improved survivability. Hantengu and Gyokko were way more survivable, and probably far better at dealing with individual slayers or groups due to the versatility of their attacks and difficulty to kill them - but I feel Guytaro and Daki could blitz a weaker Hashira faster - though since their only advantage is in sheer head-on power, they would lose to a comparable strength opponent like perhaps Rengoku or Muichiro much easier than 4 and 5, which have spellcasting and damage over time abilities. In fairness, Gyokko and Hantengu are probably more useful to Muzan which would play a part as well.
@@diemarihalt9490Bruh pot dude was ass and tumor dude is only good because he can jump people. Gyutaro fought the confirmed fastest and 2nd physically strong hashira in base.
I feel Demon Slayers peak is by far the train arc. Anything after is kinda meeh and honestly at this point this has got to be one of the most overrated shows ever made.
@@velogang9640 It depends if the next season will adapt the rest of the manga or extending the mini arc into a full season and do the final arc for season 5. Because that training arc only last about 5 chapters and I don't know how there gonna extended it for a full season unless they take a bit of the last arc into season 4.
9:13 There is an explanation for this. It is stated that once a demon slayer with the mark appears, people around him automatically start achieving the mark. Just like some kind of rare disease that occurs every few thousand years and starts spreading uncurably, and in this case, it is actually like a disease as the slayers will die by 25.
For me, Demon Slayer keeps pulling turns I think are about to be interesting and becomes super super safe. Oh the sun is gonna kill the sister? How do they get out of this? I am sure that the unique thing is that since not eating flesh she unlocked some sort of demon secret? Nah just luck of the draw randomness she has the McGuffin power the bad guy wanted all along. ZZZZZZ. Oh we get new unique villains and heroes...let's just use the same exact format and drag the entire fight across the whole season.
Bruh... She unlocked that ability for the very reason you hoped she would get out of the situation with. That and several other reasons. Why are you mad that you got what you wanted?
@@darkbribe777 i wouldn't say they're mad, just confused, because there's no reason so far (unless there is one in the manga, which i haven't read) on why nezuko can withstand the sun, and if you ask me that sounds like some chosen one bullshit so i agree with pangora
@@chhuust4rx.Technically you are right with the chosen one thing. Since the Kamado family were the only ones who knew about sun breathing. So it makes sense that somewhere along the lines that they would find the blue spider lily. Regardless though its confirmed that once a blue spider lily is picked, all the other blue spider lily's die in the nearby area.
Honestly, learning other breathings is a good idea and should be a natural thing to do. Remember Uncle Iroh learning from other elements? But the 2 seconds thing was too much indeed
Shouldn't be hard for tanjiro Hinokami kagura is literally what thunder breathing is derived from so it should be relatively easy for tanjiro to learn it. Also zenitsu had absolutely no talent for thunder breathing and only for the first form, and since tanjiro is technically a Prodigy, isn't far fetched to say he can learn it especially when zenitsu literally explains how you do it.
I'm not saying it was a bad thing that he learnt it, or that he shouldn't be able to. But the fact that we had a flashback to a conversation that essentially happened off screen is really bad storytelling. It was literally a 2 second thing. He thought about it and the it happened. Imagine they had that conversation in season two, nothing comes of it in season two, but season three happens and he thinks back to the conversation and then he's able to use Thunder Breathing. How much more rewarding would that be? The setup and the pay off. It felt so cheap to me that they threw in that conversation which we never saw to justify him learning Thunder Breathing.
considering he had exactly zero training and experience in using thunder breathing, a small speed-up would be more believable than immediate mastery followed by perfect execution
He didn't learn thunder breathing. In the manga he said he only used a basic step of thunder breathing to give himself a speed boost. He didn't actually master it like Zenitsu.
The only thing that i want to remark is that Mitsuri didn't surrender She was fighting one of the strongest demons until this point, alone, and Zohakuten was immortal and with inifinite energy. The fight lasted at least one hour (bc of the sun) and even Zohakuten said that the only way to win against Mitsuri was in an endurance fight. Also, she didin't surrender, she said that she was going to be killed and can't stand it anymore, you can see one of her attacks didn't hurt the dragon, she was out of stamina at that point and just stating that she couldn't catch up with Zohakuten anymore Great video though
I understand where you are coming from, but compare that to Rengoku, who was fighting a longer battle (he was keeping people safe on the train), fought a much tougher opponent and continued to struggle after being turned into a literal donut!
Wait didn't Zohakuten say that the Demon Slayer marked simply made her "more annoying"? Mitsuri shouldn't be even near Zohakuten's level, all she could do against him was simply to stall time
@@mahistv Rengoku didn't do it alone to protect the people in the train. He did it together with the trio. Also, Mitsuri was literally the one protecting the village from the fish pot prior her fight to Uppermoon 4 which makes her fight if not equally, longer than Rengoku
Season 3 was just not it dude. • The plot armor is unreal! • They kept pushing the narrative that its all skill and no super powers, but multiple moments disprove this (this includes Slayer Marks). • Mitsuri's backstory was wack and quite frankly made no sense. • Hantengu's kit was overloaded (when someone/something can do too much or has too much going on) and his backstory didn't really explain the MPD he has very well. • Gyokko was just... Lame. They even tried to do the poison gimmick again which is super lame and makes Gyutaro less unique. • The action pacing was off. Too many interrupting back stories. • I hate that Nezuko's immunity is just because "she's the chosen one". She was just made that way. Nothing more, nothing less.
No way you said this about S3 after watching S2 where Tanjiro, Zenitsu, Inosuke and Tengen were all beaten by the Upper 6 duo and miraculously came back from nowhere to beat the siblings.. Mitsuri's backstory made full sense. You could think it's wack but it made sense. It's no different from a tall girl growing up having a complex about her height.
@@zxcvb3772 "No way you said this about S3 after watching S2 where Tanjiro, Zenitsu, Inosuke and Tengen were all beaten by the Upper 6 duo and miraculously came back from nowhere to beat the siblings.." Yes, Luck was a huge part of beating upper 6, luck isnt always bad in shows. It wasnt completely miraculous, we have seen demons especially upper ranks stalling before, such as when rengoku was asked to become a demon. We have also seen Tanjiro come up with last ditch plans to try to win (such as throwing the axe in the air in the first episode). He did the same against upper 6. The show acknowledges upper 6 could have won by simply finishing off Uzui and Tanjiro (when the siblings fight with each other at the end.) But after Upper 6 was defeated due to carelessness it is imperative for the story to make a change to this (for example making other upper ranks more careful after one of their ranks were killed). Instead the upper ranks are nerfed, and are just as careless. Upper 5 loses because he didnt finish off a hashira (and because of a BS power boost) and Upper 4 doesnt go all out until the end (because they had to show us his overloaded convoluted ability, that wasnt even explored in depth.)
It adapted the manga pretty much perfectly and I thought the anime was more enjoyable than the arc in the manga. Out of context it’s not the greatest, but in context it works just fine. Also, the whole demon slayer mark thing is explained in the hashira training arc in the manga. Also, rengoku couldn’t unlock his demon slayer mark because a sun breathing user has to unlock it first, and tanjiro didn’t get the mark until the entertainment district.
@@kathycoleman4648 Manga spoilers: Rengoku was going to die anyways. Akaza beats most Marked Hashira in a 1 on 1. The only thing that would change is that Akaza might get killed in the sun.
I own and have read the manga at least 5 or 6 times now and I’m ngl I don’t remember anything from Swordsmith Villiage other than Genya having a gun, Tanjiro getting Yorrichis sword, and nezuko not burning. All the other story stuff is kinda a blur, this arc was very oddly paced and feels kinda like canon filler, but the last few arcs, even if a little rushed are good
honestly this happens to me with demon slayer as a whole, even with the final arc. I just remember who died, who survived and Genya and that´s pretty much it
For a long time it bothered me why Tengen and Rengoku didn't maifest their marks. But then i found out that apparently in order for a person to achieve a mark they have to have a fear of death during an intense moment in battle which leads to extremely high levels of adrenaline which ultimately leads to the effect of manifesting a mark. The mark is something unnatural, almost like a disease which is why anyone who gets it eventually dies. It may grant the user exceptional levels of strength but it also causes damage to point of no return. If the mark is manifested on one person it slowly spreads like a virus affecting other people in similar situations. The reason why tengen, rengoku, zenitsu, inosuke never manifested a mark even though they were in a near death battle moment like tanjiro is cause unlike tanjiro tengen and rengoku weren't afraid of death they were more than willing to die fighting their respective demons, they didn't feel that they needed extra help to finish the job. Zenitsu and inosuke on the other hand had already accepted their deaths. Which is why they tried going all out during the end of the battle as a final defiant moment. The others will manifest their mark because they're too scared to die *before* taking out their opponent. The only exception of the Mark's effects not having an effect on the person's body was Yoriichi because he was born with it. Bro is literally the chosen one. Can't believe the main character of the story wasn't properly introduced until the very climax of the final battle ended. Edit- Hopefully this information helps and you can use it to inform other people as well.
The demon slayer fight formula: Tanjiro gets hurt, become stronger, wins. It's not plot armor any more, it's just the mechanic of the show. Leg gets cut, run faster... Fall from great height, fight longer... Poisoned, gets better result against the same enemy...
(not an accurate formula btw he's just fucking tripping because Tanjiro doesn't go through 20 existential crises before obtaining transcendent level powers)
I don't mind that, not until we see Tanjiro getting injuries incompatible with the ability to fight. No way he could continue fighting with a broken LEG, not just foot, or with a diagonal slice across his entire body.
The mark is what did it for me. I just checked out after that. I HATE when anime introduce some random powerup to deal with a situation. It's the laziest form of writing possible. It's also why HunterXHunter is so good because Togashi deliberately doesn't do that. The power scaling and levels are consistent.
@@mahistvTo be honest i completely thought that mark was just a way to display a demon slayer going at 100% of there strength. like they've truly found themselves and there will. Not like a power up. Same way as the demons feel the "mist" or "fire" when certain breathing techniques are used. sure they can't actually see the techniques but they feel it as such. The way we can see the flames ect is just a visual way to show us how the different styles actually look and feel. Thats how i see MOST stuff in demon slayer tbh. Not as some kinda power or powerup. Its just all a display to show someones determination and hope.
I genuinely liked this season it wasn’t the best of course but that’s because I understand what this arc/season is it’s Setup It’s basically setting the seeds for the next arcs and giving context for later events but still I understand why this season was not as loved as the others but let’s hope the next arc hits cause it really should
I can't for the life of me understand how S3 is less liked than S2. S2 (Entertainment District arc) was bad, the out of place comedy, the annoying supporting casts Zenitsu and Inosuke, Upper Six were annoying (I liked their backstory though), and the main trio spent multiple episodes disguising as girls.. S3 improved a lot by getting rid of both Zenitsu and Inosuke, less out of place comedy, Upper 4 and 5 are fairly interesting, and the Swordsmith Village looks good aesthetically. The final episode was also really good when they had Tanjiro conflicted on whether to protect Nezuko and risk the villagers dying or save the villagers and expose Nezuko to the Sun, that was a great moment. S3 was great, and better than S2.
I always thought the sword chief shittalking Haganezuka's skills was him being serious in-universe but meant to be a joke to the audience because all the swordsmiths are so hardcore. Like if someone said 'Oh, you broke your leg again after my apprentice healed you? Then he 🔥HEALED YOU WRONG, and he SHAMES US ALL 🔥. Maybe if I see it again, it'll seem different, but I'm wrong, at least I got a giggle at the time. XD
I agree with everything you said except Mitsuri. She started fighting the upper rank most powerful version of himself sometime in the night, then the last time you see her, she's completely tuckered out and it's close to daybreak. I think you and everyone that says this can give her a past, she could've been fighting it alone for up to four hours, a little bit less or a little bit more. We really don't know.
No way that was 4 hours. Daybreak happened within an hour MAX, most likely within 30 mintes. Take Tengen. He was poisoned, lost his hand and even an eye. That didn't stop him from fighting, and given the amount of muscles he has, he would have been getting tired much quicker.
Amount of stuff that happened is way above sixty minutes. Muchiro being stuck in water, Tanjiro fighting in two different battles; Muchiro fainting for awhile, Tanjiro’ blade being crafted all the while. All that, and I still haven’t mentioned any of the shenanigans leading to Tanjiro beheading the demon, that Mitsuri was fighting. It’s two hours minimum, and I’m still going for four. Personally. Her endurance is respectable. Even so. No one is giving her this obvious W.
i feel as if the next season will 100% redeem itself with the introduction of the infinity castle arc which is of course the most action packed arc in the entire manga
Finally someone talks about these issues. I agree with this review. A bit of a shame because this season started so strong with the Uppermoon meeting and the introduction of Yoriichi
After binge-watching all three seasons in just two days, I found myself seeking other people’s opinions to better understand the show. While I did notice that the pacing felt somewhat rushed, I couldn’t quite grasp the backlash regarding the limited involvement of characters like Inosuke and Zenitsu fighting alongside Tanjiro. What really caught my attention was Tanjiro’s character growth. In the earlier arcs, especially in season 1, he seemed somewhat sheltered and uncertain about how to protect his loved ones. However, as the series progressed, he stepped up and learned to help others. Season 3 was the payoff for his development. The decision he had to make between his sister and a demon showcased his character growth. Although others supported him in the battle, the animation and storytelling made it feel like Tanjiro was the central figure in the fight. This was particularly evident in the last episode, where his emotional connection to the battle was palpable. The animation and storytelling made it feel like Tanjiro was at the forefront of the action, especially in the last episode, where his character development shone.
Great review! This season was great and it definitely had its flaws. Also I feel like the people who didn’t read the manga were totally lost when genya ate that demon. I mean yeah it kinda looked like he got turned, but at the same time there was no explanation as to how he was able to eat demon flesh. Everyone casually fighting along side the genya demon like it’s normal. Even the love hashira mitsuri didn’t acknowledge him, it was all so underwhelming. Hopefully in season 4 we get to see how genya ate his first demon.
To be fair, most of them know about Nezuko who is a full demon who prior to the end S3, couldn't even communicate. The main reason to tell the difference between a demon and a non-demon is their inability to recall their past life (vividly). So the fact that Genya was still consistent and didn't seem to be suffering any sort of amnesia probably tipped them off that he isn't just a straight demon.
@@Assalamalaikum26 i think the shinazugawa brothers both have some kind of natural defense/ofense against demons, but they didn´t explore that much either wich was a big turn off for me, cause it was very interesting. Also the fact that Sanemi tried to crippled his little brother and everyone was so chill about it and even punished tanjiro and lil bro himself for not becoming blind 💀
Correction, she does exactly what she's been doing since the beginning of the series; being an exception. She abstained from eating humans long enough to adapt over it. And that opened a path for her to conquer the sun.
Also,Mahis,the reason Rengoku didn’t get his slayer mark is because Tanjiro had to awaken his first. In order for one to awaken the mark,there has to be a precursor,and that precursor was Tanjiro
There doesn't need to be a precursor, it's just much easier to unlock the mark once someone achieves it. Tanjiro achieved it through coincidentally finding out that increasing his temperature would increase his overall power. And it spread through him.
@@Hivatelum no it literally says in chapter 128-130 that the sun breather has to unlock the mark first.. which is why the generation of hashira after yoriichi didn't have marks because there was no sun breather
Since i read the manga, i can explain some of the plot holes this arc left. "How did tanjiro and the gang become strong enough to handle UM4?" Actually the UM4 clones were supposed to be Fodder. The rankings of the UM strength was based on their full power. UM4 clones are still not that strong They are at best comparable to Awakened Daki each. Which makes the growth linear rather than Insane. Also the slayer marks are an massive amp to the user. "How did tanjiro learn thunder breathing?" Tanjiro uses hinokami kagura which is basically sun breathing, the original form of breathing. All other forms of breathing were derived from it. Even being able to use Sun breathing is a sign of tanjiro being a prodigy, so him being able to use the first form of thunder breathing shouldn't be hard at all considering Zenitsu literally taught him and Zenitsu himself isn't a Prodigy (As he couldn't master the other forms) "Why is nezuko immune to the sun?" In the manga it was stated that tanjiros mom used to make tea using the blue spider lily and gave it to tanjiro and nezuko, since blue spider lily gives your protection from burning from sun, hence nezuko is immune. (Ik it was stated that nezuko blood undergoes constant changes but this was also explained). Also we know that if a blue spider lily is picked the other disappear which also explain why muzan had so much trouble finding them. "Why did The hashiras only got the mark now, why didn't rengoku got it? Or Tengen?" Tanjiro unlocked his mark at the end of the fight, it was said in the show that when a slayer gets a mark, it spreads lile virus and others also start to get the mark, that is why Muichiro got the mark. Why was tanjiro the first one? Well a plausible theory is that because the requirement to get the mark is to increase your heartbeat, tengen didn't got it because the poison slowed his heartbeat.
Thank you, but I know the answers, it's just that those answers aren't very satisfying. Except for breathing styles, I think that this is a natural progression of learning new elements to expand your abilities. We were talking about that in discord while reacting to S3
@@mahistv yeah I can understand, I think the main issue really is that these plot holes were answered later on in the manga and they didn't had any forshadowing so it also made them feel like on the spot. Like the nezuko being immune to the sun one, it was extremely easy to forshadow, they could have shown this in episode 1 where you could see the mom making the tea with that specific Flower but they didn't
Yeah the best parts of the season early on were the slice of life scenes early on Making us connect with the new Hashiras and Genya. Also this season had cool action and animation as usual but Gyokko and Hangentu were cool looking yet for the first time in a while genuinely Unsympathetic Villains that feel like a nice break by the show’s standards but we’re ultimately kinda bland so the writers made up for that with cool fighting scenes and making it epic. Also there’s Way more flashbacks in this season than usual during the fights so it was kinda disruptive.
@@mahistv Yeah It’s why Gyutaro, Akaza, Rui, Even Daki Felt like Real threatening Villains with a past tragedy that you could genuinely sympathize with, Sympathy for the Devil as the trope is called. They weren’t just powerful obstacles for our heroes to overcome but actual 3 dimensional characters that we can adore watching.
for the demon slayer mark it was said that if a certin demon slayer unlocks it it makes it easier and possible for the rest of the slayers it's like a disease cuz firstly in the sengoku era yoriichi unlocked it then the others managed to and now tanjiro did it so it'll spread to the other slayers if they meet the required conditions and rengoku was a bit early to the party ig
@@mahistv no he had it vs gyotaro when his scare changed it's shape after rengoku died In episode 5 it was cuz his head hit a tree in the final selection vs the hand demon
I totally agree on most of the things that you said, I just wanted to point out that Rengoku could not have gotten his slayer mark since it takes a sun breathing user to unlock it for everyone else to start unlocking them. Since Tanjiro only unlocked his at the end of the entertainment district arc which means that both Tengen and Rengoku didn't have the change to unlock theirs. This is obviously not anime information but it's not a massive spoiler or anything.
I never liked the mark bc it did feel like plot armor. I mean, it just felt like the author wanted to kill rengoku. Nezuko is suddenly too tired to help them fight and zenitsu and inosuke are just watching rengoku struggle to even scratch akaza. I get that Tanjiro was hurt but why didn't his mark unlock then? Why only during the next upper moon fight?
I think they did good following the manga but I feel like they could have added more to the fights like they did with tengens 😢 still think this was a good season though I loved it ❤
Dropping the show is a strong thing to say. I bet that most of the people who act this way will not completely drop it and will eventually end up seeing some more episodes when available. At this point in time nobody can really claim to have "dropped" it cause there is nothing else left to drop. You are just saying that you won't watch the next seasons, but we'll see if you'll really stick to your own word. Cause I personally doubt most people will. This season was not as good as the other ones sure. But that is not absolutely a way to say it was bad. It had awesome fights if you look at them from a graphic perspective, it had a lot of character development of 3 ashuras. It introduced a secondary character that was the brother of the wind ashura who we've seen every now and then before this but didn't know much about and didn't know if he'll be any relevant to the story. It had a massive back story of the main villain as well as one of the best single moments in the show until now when we saw Nezuko alive. That was a massive plot twist for whoever didn't read the manga before, you can't just say "it was obvious", cause it really was not. We literally saw her hide cause she didn't like the light for all the previous episodes and also scream in pain just a moment before when the sun was rising in the final episode. Why would she started to burn as she did if it was an ability of her since the very beginning as you seem to believe? Also an ashura (the water one) that fought her in the first episode when you argue that it was day, didn't ask himself how it was possible, despite him being basically an expert on the matter. It didn't have as good enemies as the last seasons had and it was overall the worst one, but it still is worth watching and shouldn't make anyone completely drop the entire show.
I see people in my comments, reddit and other forums who couldn't get past first few episodes. Not sure why, cause problems for me started around Miuchiro's episode.
Great video. I do know the second half of the series gets super rushed because the pressure was on the author to get it out so quickly. I still enjoyed this season, but it is rougher compared to the others. Hantengu I thought was still menacing and I liked his battle but Upper 5 was a joke. I want the backstory stuff but getting it in the middle of an epic fight constantly craps all over the pacing. I feel like ufotable is saving all their resources for the Infinity Castle final season and are coasting by in the mean time. If this is the case, I hope they pour everything into that last major arc to make this season suffering somewhat worth it.
I actually really enjoyed this season. I like the others more but for what this season I think it’s great. It’s just setting the foundations for the next arcs and if they are as good as they should be I think everyone will be happy.
About the "regular people stabbing slayers" in the extra panals of the manga it's stated that those tools were mande from Enmu's bone. Hence, they were able to stab through slayers armor.
Sure, but we haven't seen the armor protecting from anything yet, not to mention that the conductor shouldn't have been able to get anywhere close to the slayers without them noticing
Also setting was a factor. Season 2 gave us a sense of scale and environment with the city and many people around at risk. Season 3 we are literally in a village… but all the fighting took place in random forest that looks the same as the fight with lower 5 in season 1. Non of the attacks from upper 5 and 4 looked large or wide, just broken wood here and there. And I mean come on we didn’t even see upper 4 go all out before he died. Season lacked some much of what the other season did well. Great settings tone and fear.
Excellent review Mahis! Much as you know I love Demon Slayer, I cannon argue with you're score of 7/10. I myself however give it an 8/10. As I am able to check my brain at the door when watching Demon Slayer and enjoy it for what it is. But totally get and agree with many of your points.
Fun fact tanjiro didn’t unlock his full slayer mark until season 2 and for the other slayer to unlock it a sun breather needs to unlock lock his full mark so that it can spread to others and that’s why they would look so similar to each other sometimes.
But they don't look similar though. They are all different. Well, Muichiros is kinds similar, but others look like it depends on their breathing style.
Ngl I loved this manga. Started with the anime and after season 3 I needed more to read the entire manga. I wish it was longer but i think it was wrapped up in a chefs kiss
slight spoiler but the reason why rengoku couldnt unlock his demon mark is because tanjiro didnt have it by then and it was because of him that is spread and other people could get it. This is just like how because yoruiichi all the other demon slayers would become powerful.
honestly dropped it right after barely being able to finish the second season, I just felt like the story wasn't about the characters like the first season promised and the fight at the end was hype ig but it was just cool looking, it was full of fluff, only things that changed the story of fight was when nezuko started fighting and when the older brother comes out
Having read the manga waiting for this season I noticed something about the last few arcs. (Minor manga spoilers) The last arcs really zoomed by very fast and it was especially apparent in the infinity castle arc for me. A lot of significant moments and battles felt like they were crammed into the story as if demon slayer was rushing to its end. I still enjoyed it but, after the entertainment district the series really goes into maximum overdrive.
This shit was so hyped a couple years ago and now that im into anime im suddenly considering whether i should watch this or not but everyones calling it mid now so idk ☠️
About the mark … Rengoku and Tengen weren’t able to get that coz there was no one to spread it to another Tanjirou was the first to unlock the mark same like yorichi who was born with the mark The mark spreads like an infectious disease So tanjirou was the reason that muichiro and Mitsuri easily unlocked their mark
How did tanjiro awaken his mark again? Its been a while since I read the manga but I remember specifically that you need to spend time around someone who already has it, so how did he do it?
The worst thing about Demon Slayer for me is that the story will go over a certain situation and then just completely sideline it for the rest of the series. Like Tanjiro's limit on his usage of sun breathing, what happened with that? Dude just spams it now. Or an entire fucking upper moon, you could take Gyokko out and I wouldn't even notice it.
The limit on his sun breathing was because he was weak and inexperienced using it, nothing more. It's a fucking sword technique, why are you crying so hard. Not to mention, this is the sword technique which he himself is strongest while using. The style best suited to him. Of course it would take much less time to master than his water breathing techniques. It was a situation, and it was not, in fact, fucking sidelined. Kyojuro fucking died because he became fucking paralyzed after using a single sun breathing technique. So he trained, and now he can use them freely. Is it that fucking hard to comprehend???
Following what you said, the problem is lack of clear limitations on what the character is currently capable of doing. We see someone getting their bones broken but turns out they're still able to use powerful attacks anyway, taking out the stakes of their injuries. Why we need to worry then?
The only parts that I didn't like was how they treated some of the characters 1. Muichiro knocked tanjiro down twice rudely and made tanjiro get CLOSE to mitsuri and I mean close. 2. Gyokko got no backstory or anything about his backstory. If the other demons have one shouldn't he? 3. When they fought gyutaro he destroyed mostly everything in sight plus he needed 4 demon slayers to defeat him and the demon slayers barely won yet They made Gyokko look like a weak joke of how he died. He is a higher rank he shouldbe stronger. Do you agree?
Disagree with 2 tbh because not all demons require a backstory and most of demon backstories are made up their suffering and sadness and it feels they are using a story but different with characters .
As someone who reads the manga. Yeah i can understand why people thought this season was mid as hell. And the honest answer is, It was supposed to be. The UM4 and 5 are not interesting enough to make the season feel good. Also besides that, this arc was manly supposed to be a plot arc to make the hashiras get to know of Demon slayer mark (basically a buff to keep up with demons) and to make Tanjiro stronger and progress the plot. However the next arc is gonna be infinity Castle and that imo is peak DS.
Agreed. Season one was good because it built up the world, main characters, and lore. Mugen Train was good because of Rengoku and Akaza, Entertainment District was good because of Gyutaro and Daki. This season's villains were the two out of the main bunch that I don't give a crap about. I like Gyutaro, Daki, Akaza, Douma, Kokushibou, and Muzan. I like most of the main characters and side heroes. But man... Gyokko and Hantengu were a real snooze fest. Though getting to see the Fortress and meet everybody was great.
sorry what? tf is this....we're talking about a whole season here not an ep or two, If I felt like I can't stand this season htf would I be able to watch the season after it ?
@@joeym3147 no i mean for example i couldn't even get passed the 3rd ep of the seven deadly sins it was season 3 i think....and i couldn't keep up with the anime after that bcs i couldn't see anything from that season so how can u not drop a series if u couldn't watch one WHOLE SEASON especially if it was in the middle
yeh i agree with some of these points in the video you made and as a manga reader some of these problems you have get better in the manga i persoanlly think and some things get explained and have reasons behind what was going on
There are certain point in manga where it's actually worse than the show... Like that moment when Muzan said he can tell where Nezuko is but decided not to act
No, it will be explained in Hashira training arc that Master has empty villages that they can use if such a thing occurs. So they'll be moving after this arc
It's was known by people who readed the manga this season would be mid but what shocked me was the recycle abuse of resources that worked in previous season. It was like looking to a copy paste of the previous director work. The looooong camera effect killed me.
i agree, but episode 11 felt like perfect pacing again. i liked the season but it had some flaws. i know the next seasons are gonna be great. and tanjiro had to get the mark so others could get it too
So I think (I red the manga for this and spoiled myself y'all better thank me) the demon slayer mark spreads like wildfire the second one can do it just like how the golden era of slayers became the golden era of slayers because yuriichi was born with the mark and soon the mark spreads to other slayers this giving birth to the golden era. Now that our boi tanjiro has access to the mark it also went to other slayers. So in short the slayer mark is like corona but replacing the bad shvt with good shvt
if you have not read the manga dont read the rest. Rengoku never got his mark because Tanjiro needed to unlock it first just like how yorichi got his mark the mark started to spread throughout more his eras Hashira. The same is happening with tanjiros era he needs to unlock the mark first before anyone else. Hes a sun breather and the manga makes it clear that Yorichi and Tanjiro are meant to be very similar. The fact that tanjiro can use sun breathing by seeing his farther practice sun breathing: dance is just wow. They are meant to be similar but sadly Rengoku just had to die since he fought akaza before Tanjiro got the mark. Uzui also would have gotten the mark if Tanjiro had lets say awakened it with the fight between Daki. Making the Tanjiro and Uzui vs Gyutaro a lot easier since Tanjiro has the mark already and uzui would have awakened it when he lost his hand and compressed his muscles to stop the poison from getting to his heart
honestly, the way i wouldve done Nezuko gaining sun immunity was that she actually DID always have it. now, feel free to correct me if im wrong cuz ive only watched mugen train and entertainment district and then done random wiki page dives, but their entire family is somewhat connected to the sun so i think it's kinda believable that she'd have this immunity or at least resistance. but nobody else knows. Nezuko knows she has it and from the start we see her make several attempts to go out in the sunlight in certain scenarios, but Tanjiro stops her each time thinking she doesnt know better, and her being unable to communicate means he obviously wont understand, and eventually, she stops trying and just goes along with his measures to keep her out of the sun to make him feel better. that way it'd be more hinting towards it, i think, idunno if that's much better but ye just an idea i had
The issue is they have removed too many episodes, like peeps complaining about season one having too much filler but the truth is, they keep getting to the point without giving characters time to grow, and fights to be interesting, my hope is that the Hashira training arc will be training (yes) but emotional connections, discussions etc to make us love the characters we will soon loose, they need to learn more, more episodes with Nezuko they just need to slow down, filler episodes aren’t even filler, they are just the characters having fun.
I still liked it but the pacing was a bit off at times. I felt like some scenes that deserved more screentime were rushed and others that were not that important were really long. also would have liked to see more of Genya, like how he figured out he could eat deamons. also the plot armor with this one was crazy, tanjiro and nezuko should have been dead 5minutes after Hantengu showed up
demon slayer is the best example of "oh what a nice animation, let me ignore everything else because the animation distracts me from all the essentials of what makes a good story" I can't imagine people out there describing Zenitsu as a good character...simply no, I haven't seen anything as annoying as him in a long time. tanjrio's attitude is annoying too, you have sympathy for everything and everyone... uhm tanjiro? why are you crying for demons who just reduced innocent people and a whole village to rubble and ashes? (gyutaro & daki) I would have preferred Inosuke to have more screentime. let alone the missing world building and no offense people, but the principle with the breathing techniques is really nothing unusual (just for your information, the effects with fire, water, thunder, etc., you don't actually see at all, so how do the breathing techniques differ from each other? ) JoJo's Hamon is a good example of a well thought out power up system In my opinion, Demon Slayer only got the hype because UfoTable did a good job with the animation, but that's about it. if you look at the manga you will also notice that it is really not well drawn... but well... it's just my opinion (and apparently many others')
as someone who read the manga, the mark situation gets fixed don't worry, it has it's downsides and it makes sense why it appeared in the others more easily
@@mahistv Not that convoluted, the requirements are clear. Temperature of 39 degrees CELSIUS, and a heart rate of 200. Oh and, you have to be on the verge of death, at a very critical moment, where upon you decide to summon all of your strength *_and more._*
yeah its quite annoying for rengoku like really his 9th form is attack whitch user takes all his strenght and will for this one finishing attack and you say to me it didint activate his mark or a blazing red sword I'm dissapointed tbh oh and if you think about it like they have slain 6th 5th and 4th upper moons so who is left for next akaza and it seems a bit rushed for me
The last half of the story is rushed indeed. We went form Tanjiro not being able to scratch a Lower Moon, to Tanjiro almost soloing Upper moons in a matter of 3 arcs, 12 episodes each.
Demon slayer is carried by its presentation, but all flash and no substance eventually wears thin on people in the long haul. Shows like Aot or JJK have other elements that keep people coming back besides the great animation, and unfortunately, Demon Slayer is a show that is about as deep as a grade school pool. There are no character arcs, no characters that go beyond 'anime' personalities, and no real overarching plot or mystery. The great aesthetic, character designs, music and animation are all excellent, but those things are like waving a shiny object in front of a cat. Eventually, the cat loses interest because there's nothing else there
Fundamentals in terms of writing, Demon slayer bad from the beginning No Deeper Truths or life advices to be taught ever since episode 1 That's why consequences are valued cause they encourage you to learn No metaphors subtext or technicality then your looking at one pretty generic show
90% flashback 5% literal humans surviving things they shouldn’t be able to survive 5% asspull powers boosts. Seriously how does someone survive being in a water bubble for like 6 entire god damn episodes
if you don´t question it then nothing will change or get better, and you will end with the isekai problem in wich most of them nowadays are mid copypastes of the same writting issues. I love demon slayer, i will still watch it cause stup11d as it is is still entertaining, but i would love it even more if it was written better
id say the end of season 3 is absolutely amazing.. hantengu fight only slaps during misturi's section and the only good section of gyokko vs muichiro was the end of the episode where they ACTUALLY fought and was so well made
S3 was mid except for episode 1 and the finale. Basically the upper moons 4&5 were uninteresting. And the only redeeming qualities was the upper moons 1-3 and Muzan Jackson.
@@ZayTh3God no tf he ain't, he's a simple yet a menace with style. His power alongside his personality, his obsession over consistency and the fear he brings upon the entire demon slayer verse including The Demons themselves is very good. I'm not saying he is the best villain ever, cus no. Kokushibo looks and feels more threatening but Muzan is still a really cool villain and is in no way horrible.
The last time I remember people turning on a series this hard was Sword Art Online. Only at least with Sword Art Online people were taking issue with the characters and story as a whole. Here they just seem to be taking issue with tropes that have existed in the shonen genre since its inception, its just more noticeable here because the western audience that grew up with anime is older and more cynical. I'm pretty sure you could find just as many, if not more, things to nitpick in a series like Dragon Ball, like how the Super Saiyan 2 multiplier makes no goddamn sense and completely breaks power scaling established in fights like base Goku versus Frieza. Though, in fairness, you could probably argue that power scaling in that series was busted as far back as Master Roshi's moon busting feat in the Tournament Saga.
The tropes on demon slayer r over the top. They take every known shounen trope and fit in a singular piece within demon slayer. Zennitsu is tge crybaby whis secretly a badass. Innosukes the idiot. Nezuko is the inner demon. Tanjiro is the insufferably kind saint. Gyomei is the character within the protagonist group known as "the strongest". Giyuu is the emo. Also aside from tge hardcore db fans, most people recognize db as one of tge worst written shounen out tgere at the moment, so u it doesnt need to be pointed out.
I made fun of DBZ on multiple occasions and I'd say that these are not nit-pick, since pacing, for example, is a major issue which has nothing to do with a particular genre
The demon slayer mark thing and it just apearing on muichiro and mitsuri and not rengoku is explained on the manga. Basically when one unlocks the demon slayer mark people around him start unlocking it too and that is why rengoku and tengen didint unlock it on their battles, because tanjiro was the first one to unlock it.
Just because it was explained does not mean its appealing story writing. They obviously came up with whatever excuse they could to justify tengen not getting it. Marks ruined demon slayer. Entertainment arc did great without any bullshit power boosts. Not everything has to have dbz powerscaling
I heard from several other ani tubers that the author of demon slayer started rushing at this point in the manga. Since she was experiencing several personal problems, and shonen jump refused to give her a break. So she rushed the rest of the story, which is terrible and makes shonen jump look even worse now. They treated bleach author Tite Kubo in a similar way when he was writing the thousand year blood war.
Ah fuck... Shonen Jump strikes again?
Is there a single author in Shonen Jump that hasn't been treated like this? You'd think new authors would be better prepared with the years of suffering they have to learn from, but the same exact thing keeps happening. It's almost like it's objectively too much work for one author and some assistance to do all the time, but it's Japan so they'll never change it.
Honestly, this makes so much sense. I felt like a lot of plot points were just dropped for no reason. It sucks ro have these artists not be able to created what they truly envisioned because of corporate greed.
She should have just quit. No way Shounen Jump is just going to leave Demon Slayer on hiatus so she could have threatened them with quitting. It would have given her bargaining power
@@LJ-hk4tvTogashi got a ton of special treatment while he did hxh
Genya's whole deal with being able to consume demons, while random, was badass as fuck -- and then they proceeded to do absolutely nothing with it. There were so many points I was screaming "THERE'S A DETACHED LIMB RIGHT THERE! EAT IT, YOU FUCKING MORON!" It could have been a really cool way to explore the relationship between humans and demons by having this one fringe case of a human that predates on demons instead of the other way around. Hell, I think having lower demons be scared of a dude like that would be unquestionably tight. But they just did nothing with such a cool concept.
Can I ask why can't this guy use and/or learn breathing techniques?
I think I missed it in the manga
There is a dude like that - Genya, but we hardly see him do that
@@mahistv Like why the fuck do we see Genya in battle only AFTER he's powered up? Why can't there be a shot of him fighting a lower demon, having this demon bant about how Genya can't even use total concentration, and then watch in *horror* as Genya slices his arm of, fucking EATS IT, and then this demon realizes that HE'S now the prey in this equation?
So dumb because Tanjiro is special with his family dance of whatever and Genyas special but doesn’t do shit
If I remember correctly, Genya can't consume too powerful demons or too much of a quantity because he wouldn't be able to digest it.
You do have a point about Mitsuri. Out of all of the good guys, Mitsuri seemed to be the least injured. There is no way she should be giving up at that point(5:35). Her giving giving up highlights how much plot armor the other characters get. If Tanjiro can magically recover from a broken foot(8:58) and have the strength to finish the fight, then Mitsuri should be able to dance with Sekido all night long.
Agreed, something doesn't add up
It’s also because her fight was cut short, imagine us seeing the details of her battling, it would make more sense
I don't blame Misturi, that drum mode demon was on some other kind of stuff. Tanjiro and the squad would have been no diffed if she didn't pull up.
The problem is that it's off screen and on screen mist hashira makes a joke out of the other upper rank. Thus making her look bad
I think it was because of her getting hungry again😅
frrr
One thing i never understood about DS whenever it introduces a demon backstory is that they always show that the demons were horribly treated in their previous life by the humans hence their hatred towards them, yet we never once explored this concept any further than "They were treated horribly by the humans." And idk have Tanjiro go through these conflict to 'Develop' as a character?
We've only seen like 2 backstories where they got treated like shit by others. Upper 6 and drum demon. That's it. I really don't know why people seem to have bad memory when it comes to ds
@@edir4265 Anime Only?
@jmanwastaken110 nah, even then we would only have 3 in total
@@edir4265 Four if you count rui, but you are correct.
@jmanwastaken110 Rui wasn't really treated badly by anyone and it was more like his own fault. That's why I didn't count him
Honestly the marks powerscaling makes zero sense. Muichiro goes from getting no diffed by Gyokko to reversing the situation, and in the infinity castle arc every time a slayer unlocks the mark, the uppermoon they're fighting just goes "oh, hes faster now" and goes right back to kicking the slayers asses
the worst part is the marks being such a big deal in this arc and the next all the characters in this that got theirs now are weaker than thier unmarked teammates like wtf
Upper two and upper one are drastically more powerful than the lower ranks.
Even upper three is.
That's just how it is, they wouldn't even have a chance of winning without the mark.
Not to mention, upper one literally has a mark himself.
However, do acknowledge that Upper Two was taken down by unmarked slayers + deadly ass poison.
@@thedarkwolf5637 They aren't, they were just all fighting different enemies.
@@Hivatel mitsuri kanroji was being outperformed by a heavily injured giyu and an unmarked iguro, muichiro tokito is the one I can understand because he lacks experience even though he's strong but seeing him lose like that wasn't nice
That's because the top 3 moons are leagues above even Hantengu, let alone anyone below Hantengu. Here are some spoilers:
First and foremost, Akaza.Akaza.The guy who gets stronger and stronger the more fighting spirit his opponent has. The guy who became the 4th strongest demon in existence without eating women, something that is stated to give a massive buff to the demon who does it. From his speed to his destructive capabilities, to the fact that he was unkillable by anything other than the sun, you can see WHY he's not fazed by the marks.
Then, Douma. His cryo techniques are a direct counter to slayers because they can freeze people's lungs in seconds. The only reason he lost was because he ate, get this, 700x the lethal dose of the poison used to kill demons. And that STILL didn't put him down, they had to finish him off manually. Not to mention he was fucking around until the poison started melting him.
And last but not least, Kokushibo. Faster and stronger than any demon slayer and demon aside from Muzan. The guy who had to have every last drop of his blood sapped away from him AND throw the fight in order to die. He was hauling ass prior to that because, unlike every demon slayer, his moon breathing has a physical form. Yes, he actually produces crescent moons that slice people apart when he does his techniques.
They could have added Gyokko's backstory from the Databooks but nop. They just wanted to get over this season as fast as possible.
I was also under the impression they don't want to spend much time/resources on this season
Lemme guess. He was shunned/wronged by the society? How original backstory for demon slayer!
@@makepr Actually no. He was a Psycho
@@makeprnah he killed a kid and put the body inside of a pot then was killed by the kid parents then muzan turned him into a demon
@@chad_yoriichiain't that hilarious, he gets killed by a few kids too
Ngl ds season 3 was mid as hell and the pacing just felt off of some reason.
The reason is simple - they were juggling backstories, flashbacks and fights, instead of giving it one after the other like they did in the previous season
The pacing been off since Muzan killed the lower moons. They should’ve been kept alive as fodder for tanjiro and the gang to level up by defeating, instead we get miraculous power jumps for no good reason besides “dA pLoT”
@@mahistvexactly bro the flashbacks were annoying
Yeah both uppermoons were hella underwhelming tbh…
Factssss
Gyutaro was actually capable of being Upper Moon 4, however he doesn't care about the rank he cares about protecting his sister. Same with Rui, he could have been a higher Lower Moon but didn't care to be one, he just wanted his family
I can see where you are coming from, but 5 and 6 are stronger base on their powers. Rui though, I 100% agree.
@@mahistv I mean, I personally give attack power to Guytaro and Daki, but they're kinda blitz characters without much versatility or massively improved survivability. Hantengu and Gyokko were way more survivable, and probably far better at dealing with individual slayers or groups due to the versatility of their attacks and difficulty to kill them - but I feel Guytaro and Daki could blitz a weaker Hashira faster - though since their only advantage is in sheer head-on power, they would lose to a comparable strength opponent like perhaps Rengoku or Muichiro much easier than 4 and 5, which have spellcasting and damage over time abilities. In fairness, Gyokko and Hantengu are probably more useful to Muzan which would play a part as well.
That was never stated
@@ZayTh3God let him believe this BS... love it when ppl justify stuff that they portray as facts in their heads
@@diemarihalt9490Bruh pot dude was ass and tumor dude is only good because he can jump people. Gyutaro fought the confirmed fastest and 2nd physically strong hashira in base.
The entire season can pretty much be described as a sea retreating before a tsunami
Hopefully that will be the case
I would say that better describes next season.
@@mahistvas a manga reader dw it's gonna be good
I feel Demon Slayers peak is by far the train arc. Anything after is kinda meeh and honestly at this point this has got to be one of the most overrated shows ever made.
@@velogang9640 It depends if the next season will adapt the rest of the manga or extending the mini arc into a full season and do the final arc for season 5. Because that training arc only last about 5 chapters and I don't know how there gonna extended it for a full season unless they take a bit of the last arc into season 4.
9:13 There is an explanation for this.
It is stated that once a demon slayer with the mark appears, people around him automatically start achieving the mark.
Just like some kind of rare disease that occurs every few thousand years and starts spreading uncurably, and in this case, it is actually like a disease as the slayers will die by 25.
But his mark appeared in ep 5!
@@mahistvwasn't that just the scratch from the hand demon
@@mahistvit hadn't awakened yet, that only happened in the fight against Gyutaro and Daki
@mahistv that wasnt the mark 💀
@@mahistv that was his scar dawg
For me, Demon Slayer keeps pulling turns I think are about to be interesting and becomes super super safe. Oh the sun is gonna kill the sister? How do they get out of this? I am sure that the unique thing is that since not eating flesh she unlocked some sort of demon secret? Nah just luck of the draw randomness she has the McGuffin power the bad guy wanted all along. ZZZZZZ. Oh we get new unique villains and heroes...let's just use the same exact format and drag the entire fight across the whole season.
Bruh... She unlocked that ability for the very reason you hoped she would get out of the situation with. That and several other reasons. Why are you mad that you got what you wanted?
@@darkbribe777 i wouldn't say they're mad, just confused, because there's no reason so far (unless there is one in the manga, which i haven't read) on why nezuko can withstand the sun, and if you ask me that sounds like some chosen one bullshit so i agree with pangora
@mjlkcc. Nezuko was always the chosen one, tho?
@@chhuust4rx.Technically you are right with the chosen one thing. Since the Kamado family were the only ones who knew about sun breathing. So it makes sense that somewhere along the lines that they would find the blue spider lily. Regardless though its confirmed that once a blue spider lily is picked, all the other blue spider lily's die in the nearby area.
@@plantcrone9662 yeah, which makes it worse
Don't forget Tanjiro just learning Thunder Breathing in a flashback, in 2 seconds
Honestly, learning other breathings is a good idea and should be a natural thing to do. Remember Uncle Iroh learning from other elements? But the 2 seconds thing was too much indeed
Shouldn't be hard for tanjiro
Hinokami kagura is literally what thunder breathing is derived from so it should be relatively easy for tanjiro to learn it.
Also zenitsu had absolutely no talent for thunder breathing and only for the first form, and since tanjiro is technically a Prodigy, isn't far fetched to say he can learn it especially when zenitsu literally explains how you do it.
I'm not saying it was a bad thing that he learnt it, or that he shouldn't be able to. But the fact that we had a flashback to a conversation that essentially happened off screen is really bad storytelling. It was literally a 2 second thing. He thought about it and the it happened. Imagine they had that conversation in season two, nothing comes of it in season two, but season three happens and he thinks back to the conversation and then he's able to use Thunder Breathing. How much more rewarding would that be? The setup and the pay off. It felt so cheap to me that they threw in that conversation which we never saw to justify him learning Thunder Breathing.
considering he had exactly zero training and experience in using thunder breathing, a small speed-up would be more believable than immediate mastery followed by perfect execution
He didn't learn thunder breathing. In the manga he said he only used a basic step of thunder breathing to give himself a speed boost. He didn't actually master it like Zenitsu.
The only thing that i want to remark is that Mitsuri didn't surrender
She was fighting one of the strongest demons until this point, alone, and Zohakuten was immortal and with inifinite energy. The fight lasted at least one hour (bc of the sun) and even Zohakuten said that the only way to win against Mitsuri was in an endurance fight. Also, she didin't surrender, she said that she was going to be killed and can't stand it anymore, you can see one of her attacks didn't hurt the dragon, she was out of stamina at that point and just stating that she couldn't catch up with Zohakuten anymore
Great video though
I understand where you are coming from, but compare that to Rengoku, who was fighting a longer battle (he was keeping people safe on the train), fought a much tougher opponent and continued to struggle after being turned into a literal donut!
@@mahistvoff screen just makes characters look bad. Misturi did nothing wrong.
Wait didn't Zohakuten say that the Demon Slayer marked simply made her "more annoying"? Mitsuri shouldn't be even near Zohakuten's level, all she could do against him was simply to stall time
@@Gurkan790 Yes, and Zohakuten is literally immortal until the little one is dead
@@mahistv Rengoku didn't do it alone to protect the people in the train. He did it together with the trio. Also, Mitsuri was literally the one protecting the village from the fish pot prior her fight to Uppermoon 4 which makes her fight if not equally, longer than Rengoku
Season 3 was just not it dude.
• The plot armor is unreal!
• They kept pushing the narrative that its all skill and no super powers, but multiple moments disprove this (this includes Slayer Marks).
• Mitsuri's backstory was wack and quite frankly made no sense.
• Hantengu's kit was overloaded (when someone/something can do too much or has too much going on) and his backstory didn't really explain the MPD he has very well.
• Gyokko was just... Lame. They even tried to do the poison gimmick again which is super lame and makes Gyutaro less unique.
• The action pacing was off. Too many interrupting back stories.
• I hate that Nezuko's immunity is just because "she's the chosen one". She was just made that way. Nothing more, nothing less.
I agree, and to add to Nezuko, Tanjiro is the same with his mark and Sun Breathing. Just happen to work because he had that in him this whole time.
Her backstory was beautiful. You don’t need a sad backstory to justify why she’s a demon slayer. Move along.
No way you said this about S3 after watching S2 where Tanjiro, Zenitsu, Inosuke and Tengen were all beaten by the Upper 6 duo and miraculously came back from nowhere to beat the siblings..
Mitsuri's backstory made full sense. You could think it's wack but it made sense. It's no different from a tall girl growing up having a complex about her height.
I confused, does it count as being a chosen one when you were simply fed a flower?
@@zxcvb3772 "No way you said this about S3 after watching S2 where Tanjiro, Zenitsu, Inosuke and Tengen were all beaten by the Upper 6 duo and miraculously came back from nowhere to beat the siblings.."
Yes, Luck was a huge part of beating upper 6, luck isnt always bad in shows. It wasnt completely miraculous, we have seen demons especially upper ranks stalling before, such as when rengoku was asked to become a demon.
We have also seen Tanjiro come up with last ditch plans to try to win (such as throwing the axe in the air in the first episode). He did the same against upper 6.
The show acknowledges upper 6 could have won by simply finishing off Uzui and Tanjiro (when the siblings fight with each other at the end.)
But after Upper 6 was defeated due to carelessness it is imperative for the story to make a change to this (for example making other upper ranks more careful after one of their ranks were killed). Instead the upper ranks are nerfed, and are just as careless. Upper 5 loses because he didnt finish off a hashira (and because of a BS power boost) and Upper 4 doesnt go all out until the end (because they had to show us his overloaded convoluted ability, that wasnt even explored in depth.)
It adapted the manga pretty much perfectly and I thought the anime was more enjoyable than the arc in the manga. Out of context it’s not the greatest, but in context it works just fine. Also, the whole demon slayer mark thing is explained in the hashira training arc in the manga.
Also, rengoku couldn’t unlock his demon slayer mark because a sun breathing user has to unlock it first, and tanjiro didn’t get the mark until the entertainment district.
So indirectly, Tanjiro had a hand in Rengoku's death. How sad.
@@kathycoleman4648 Tanjiros Skill Issue had a Hand in it.
@@kathycoleman4648💀💀💀💀
Anime should be able to move things around for better viewing experience
@@kathycoleman4648 Manga spoilers:
Rengoku was going to die anyways. Akaza beats most Marked Hashira in a 1 on 1. The only thing that would change is that Akaza might get killed in the sun.
I own and have read the manga at least 5 or 6 times now and I’m ngl I don’t remember anything from Swordsmith Villiage other than Genya having a gun, Tanjiro getting Yorrichis sword, and nezuko not burning. All the other story stuff is kinda a blur, this arc was very oddly paced and feels kinda like canon filler, but the last few arcs, even if a little rushed are good
I think the pacing is precisely why it feels so forgetful. You just can't focus on anything with constant flashback distracting you.
@@mahistv especially the repeat ones that are just annoying at that point
honestly this happens to me with demon slayer as a whole, even with the final arc. I just remember who died, who survived and Genya and that´s pretty much it
@@ñamñam-r7c Lmao, seems like everybody forgets everything but Genya
@@ashfakamin-b9ngoes to show how goated he is then
For a long time it bothered me why Tengen and Rengoku didn't maifest their marks. But then i found out that apparently in order for a person to achieve a mark they have to have a fear of death during an intense moment in battle which leads to extremely high levels of adrenaline which ultimately leads to the effect of manifesting a mark. The mark is something unnatural, almost like a disease which is why anyone who gets it eventually dies. It may grant the user exceptional levels of strength but it also causes damage to point of no return. If the mark is manifested on one person it slowly spreads like a virus affecting other people in similar situations. The reason why tengen, rengoku, zenitsu, inosuke never manifested a mark even though they were in a near death battle moment like tanjiro is cause unlike tanjiro tengen and rengoku weren't afraid of death they were more than willing to die fighting their respective demons, they didn't feel that they needed extra help to finish the job. Zenitsu and inosuke on the other hand had already accepted their deaths. Which is why they tried going all out during the end of the battle as a final defiant moment. The others will manifest their mark because they're too scared to die *before* taking out their opponent. The only exception of the Mark's effects not having an effect on the person's body was Yoriichi because he was born with it. Bro is literally the chosen one. Can't believe the main character of the story wasn't properly introduced until the very climax of the final battle ended.
Edit- Hopefully this information helps and you can use it to inform other people as well.
The demon slayer fight formula: Tanjiro gets hurt, become stronger, wins.
It's not plot armor any more, it's just the mechanic of the show. Leg gets cut, run faster... Fall from great height, fight longer... Poisoned, gets better result against the same enemy...
(not an accurate formula btw he's just fucking tripping because Tanjiro doesn't go through 20 existential crises before obtaining transcendent level powers)
I don't mind that, not until we see Tanjiro getting injuries incompatible with the ability to fight. No way he could continue fighting with a broken LEG, not just foot, or with a diagonal slice across his entire body.
Ha, this isn't even my final form
The mark is what did it for me. I just checked out after that. I HATE when anime introduce some random powerup to deal with a situation. It's the laziest form of writing possible. It's also why HunterXHunter is so good because Togashi deliberately doesn't do that. The power scaling and levels are consistent.
Agreed, I hate ass-pulls like that
@@mahistvTo be honest i completely thought that mark was just a way to display a demon slayer going at 100% of there strength. like they've truly found themselves and there will. Not like a power up. Same way as the demons feel the "mist" or "fire" when certain breathing techniques are used. sure they can't actually see the techniques but they feel it as such. The way we can see the flames ect is just a visual way to show us how the different styles actually look and feel. Thats how i see MOST stuff in demon slayer tbh. Not as some kinda power or powerup. Its just all a display to show someones determination and hope.
I genuinely liked this season it wasn’t the best of course but that’s because I understand what this arc/season is it’s Setup It’s basically setting the seeds for the next arcs and giving context for later events but still I understand why this season was not as loved as the others but let’s hope the next arc hits cause it really should
Hopefully the set up will pay off.
@@mahistv hopefully 🙏
I can't for the life of me understand how S3 is less liked than S2. S2 (Entertainment District arc) was bad, the out of place comedy, the annoying supporting casts Zenitsu and Inosuke, Upper Six were annoying (I liked their backstory though), and the main trio spent multiple episodes disguising as girls..
S3 improved a lot by getting rid of both Zenitsu and Inosuke, less out of place comedy, Upper 4 and 5 are fairly interesting, and the Swordsmith Village looks good aesthetically. The final episode was also really good when they had Tanjiro conflicted on whether to protect Nezuko and risk the villagers dying or save the villagers and expose Nezuko to the Sun, that was a great moment. S3 was great, and better than S2.
@@zxcvb3772 yeah it was a lot better ngl with better pacing and emotional and physical stakes
I always thought the sword chief shittalking Haganezuka's skills was him being serious in-universe but meant to be a joke to the audience because all the swordsmiths are so hardcore. Like if someone said 'Oh, you broke your leg again after my apprentice healed you? Then he 🔥HEALED YOU WRONG, and he SHAMES US ALL 🔥.
Maybe if I see it again, it'll seem different, but I'm wrong, at least I got a giggle at the time. XD
I definitely got a giggle out of that, but every joke is only part joke.
I agree with everything you said except Mitsuri. She started fighting the upper rank most powerful version of himself sometime in the night, then the last time you see her, she's completely tuckered out and it's close to daybreak. I think you and everyone that says this can give her a past, she could've been fighting it alone for up to four hours, a little bit less or a little bit more. We really don't know.
No way that was 4 hours. Daybreak happened within an hour MAX, most likely within 30 mintes. Take Tengen. He was poisoned, lost his hand and even an eye. That didn't stop him from fighting, and given the amount of muscles he has, he would have been getting tired much quicker.
Amount of stuff that happened is way above sixty minutes. Muchiro being stuck in water, Tanjiro fighting in two different battles; Muchiro fainting for awhile, Tanjiro’ blade being crafted all the while. All that, and I still haven’t mentioned any of the shenanigans leading to Tanjiro beheading the demon, that Mitsuri was fighting. It’s two hours minimum, and I’m still going for four. Personally. Her endurance is respectable. Even so. No one is giving her this obvious W.
They should've shown us the damn fight to give the thing some credibility.
i feel as if the next season will 100% redeem itself with the introduction of the infinity castle arc which is of course the most action packed arc in the entire manga
I hope so, this one felt like they were saving budget
@@mahistv i believe it's mainly because of the manga, sure they couldve lengethened it up even more but this arc was tame even in the manga
Finally someone talks about these issues. I agree with this review.
A bit of a shame because this season started so strong with the Uppermoon meeting and the introduction of Yoriichi
I agree, the frist 20 minutes were awesome! Douma is the best
showing zenistu while saying "likeable" is a bit of an overstatement
That was the joke
After binge-watching all three seasons in just two days, I found myself seeking other people’s opinions to better understand the show. While I did notice that the pacing felt somewhat rushed, I couldn’t quite grasp the backlash regarding the limited involvement of characters like Inosuke and Zenitsu fighting alongside Tanjiro.
What really caught my attention was Tanjiro’s character growth. In the earlier arcs, especially in season 1, he seemed somewhat sheltered and uncertain about how to protect his loved ones. However, as the series progressed, he stepped up and learned to help others.
Season 3 was the payoff for his development. The decision he had to make between his sister and a demon showcased his character growth. Although others supported him in the battle, the animation and storytelling made it feel like Tanjiro was the central figure in the fight. This was particularly evident in the last episode, where his emotional connection to the battle was palpable.
The animation and storytelling made it feel like Tanjiro was at the forefront of the action, especially in the last episode, where his character development shone.
That's a cool observation on his growth. I personally didn't care that the rest of the gang wasn't there, so not sure why people are freaking out.
Season 3 was still ass, with the most underwhelming villains in the history of anime
“Gyokko has pots that give him more mobility, poison, and summons that cause a cringe de buff” I was laughing so hard 😂
Haha, glad you had a laugh!
Great review! This season was great and it definitely had its flaws. Also I feel like the people who didn’t read the manga were totally lost when genya ate that demon. I mean yeah it kinda looked like he got turned, but at the same time there was no explanation as to how he was able to eat demon flesh. Everyone casually fighting along side the genya demon like it’s normal. Even the love hashira mitsuri didn’t acknowledge him, it was all so underwhelming. Hopefully in season 4 we get to see how genya ate his first demon.
To be fair, most of them know about Nezuko who is a full demon who prior to the end S3, couldn't even communicate. The main reason to tell the difference between a demon and a non-demon is their inability to recall their past life (vividly). So the fact that Genya was still consistent and didn't seem to be suffering any sort of amnesia probably tipped them off that he isn't just a straight demon.
Wait, we didn't get much explanation in S3 about that, did we? I forgot about that...
My guy, Genya himself explained that he can turn into a demon for a short amount of time by eating them.
@@Assalamalaikum26 i think the shinazugawa brothers both have some kind of natural defense/ofense against demons, but they didn´t explore that much either wich was a big turn off for me, cause it was very interesting. Also the fact that Sanemi tried to crippled his little brother and everyone was so chill about it and even punished tanjiro and lil bro himself for not becoming blind 💀
Nezuko just does what plot needs her to do. Mid show.
Correction, she does exactly what she's been doing since the beginning of the series; being an exception.
She abstained from eating humans long enough to adapt over it.
And that opened a path for her to conquer the sun.
Nezuko is not a problem here)
lol the depth. She can use blood art when it is needed. She can powerup when it is needed. She can conquer sun when it is needed. Sure.
@@Hivatel
The whole show is@@mahistv
I can't believe that u just hated on Nezuko😶
Also,Mahis,the reason Rengoku didn’t get his slayer mark is because Tanjiro had to awaken his first. In order for one to awaken the mark,there has to be a precursor,and that precursor was Tanjiro
But he had the mark already and used Sun breathing
@@mahistv he used sun breathing,but not the mark,or at least not to my memory
@@mahistv the 'perfect' mark he got in previous season, not the 'still in progress' one
There doesn't need to be a precursor, it's just much easier to unlock the mark once someone achieves it.
Tanjiro achieved it through coincidentally finding out that increasing his temperature would increase his overall power.
And it spread through him.
@@Hivatelum no it literally says in chapter 128-130 that the sun breather has to unlock the mark first.. which is why the generation of hashira after yoriichi didn't have marks because there was no sun breather
Since i read the manga, i can explain some of the plot holes this arc left.
"How did tanjiro and the gang become strong enough to handle UM4?"
Actually the UM4 clones were supposed to be Fodder. The rankings of the UM strength was based on their full power. UM4 clones are still not that strong
They are at best comparable to Awakened Daki each. Which makes the growth linear rather than Insane.
Also the slayer marks are an massive amp to the user.
"How did tanjiro learn thunder breathing?"
Tanjiro uses hinokami kagura which is basically sun breathing, the original form of breathing. All other forms of breathing were derived from it. Even being able to use Sun breathing is a sign of tanjiro being a prodigy, so him being able to use the first form of thunder breathing shouldn't be hard at all considering Zenitsu literally taught him and Zenitsu himself isn't a Prodigy (As he couldn't master the other forms)
"Why is nezuko immune to the sun?"
In the manga it was stated that tanjiros mom used to make tea using the blue spider lily and gave it to tanjiro and nezuko, since blue spider lily gives your protection from burning from sun, hence nezuko is immune. (Ik it was stated that nezuko blood undergoes constant changes but this was also explained). Also we know that if a blue spider lily is picked the other disappear which also explain why muzan had so much trouble finding them.
"Why did The hashiras only got the mark now, why didn't rengoku got it? Or Tengen?"
Tanjiro unlocked his mark at the end of the fight, it was said in the show that when a slayer gets a mark, it spreads lile virus and others also start to get the mark, that is why Muichiro got the mark. Why was tanjiro the first one?
Well a plausible theory is that because the requirement to get the mark is to increase your heartbeat, tengen didn't got it because the poison slowed his heartbeat.
Thank you, but I know the answers, it's just that those answers aren't very satisfying. Except for breathing styles, I think that this is a natural progression of learning new elements to expand your abilities. We were talking about that in discord while reacting to S3
@@mahistv yeah I can understand, I think the main issue really is that these plot holes were answered later on in the manga and they didn't had any forshadowing so it also made them feel like on the spot.
Like the nezuko being immune to the sun one, it was extremely easy to forshadow, they could have shown this in episode 1 where you could see the mom making the tea with that specific Flower but they didn't
Yeah the best parts of the season early on were the slice of life scenes early on Making us connect with the new Hashiras and Genya. Also this season had cool action and animation as usual but Gyokko and Hangentu were cool looking yet for the first time in a while genuinely Unsympathetic Villains that feel like a nice break by the show’s standards but we’re ultimately kinda bland so the writers made up for that with cool fighting scenes and making it epic.
Also there’s Way more flashbacks in this season than usual during the fights so it was kinda disruptive.
I agree, my main critique is the unsympathetic villains and bad flashback pacing!
@@mahistv Yeah It’s why Gyutaro, Akaza, Rui, Even Daki Felt like Real threatening Villains with a past tragedy that you could genuinely sympathize with, Sympathy for the Devil as the trope is called.
They weren’t just powerful obstacles for our heroes to overcome but actual 3 dimensional characters that we can adore watching.
for the demon slayer mark it was said that if a certin demon slayer unlocks it it makes it easier and possible for the rest of the slayers it's like a disease
cuz firstly in the sengoku era yoriichi unlocked it then the others managed to
and now tanjiro did it so it'll spread to the other slayers if they meet the required conditions and rengoku was a bit early to the party ig
But Tanjiro had the mark as early as ep 5?
@@mahistv no he had it vs gyotaro when his scare changed it's shape after rengoku died
In episode 5 it was cuz his head hit a tree in the final selection vs the hand demon
I totally agree on most of the things that you said, I just wanted to point out that Rengoku could not have gotten his slayer mark since it takes a sun breathing user to unlock it for everyone else to start unlocking them. Since Tanjiro only unlocked his at the end of the entertainment district arc which means that both Tengen and Rengoku didn't have the change to unlock theirs. This is obviously not anime information but it's not a massive spoiler or anything.
Sure, but my point about this mark losing it's flashiness still stands.
I never liked the mark bc it did feel like plot armor. I mean, it just felt like the author wanted to kill rengoku. Nezuko is suddenly too tired to help them fight and zenitsu and inosuke are just watching rengoku struggle to even scratch akaza. I get that Tanjiro was hurt but why didn't his mark unlock then? Why only during the next upper moon fight?
@@NC-dw1ir I think there are condtions, 39 degrees CELSIUS of body temperature and 200 bpm
Nice been waiting for this and first BTW love your videos
Thank you bro! You help me make these
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Will comment again when the vids live
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I think they did good following the manga but I feel like they could have added more to the fights like they did with tengens 😢 still think this was a good season though I loved it ❤
Sometimes following a manga to a T might be bad
@@mahistv They also complain like crazy when they don't follow it step by step either so... you gotta do what you gotta do
Dropping the show is a strong thing to say. I bet that most of the people who act this way will not completely drop it and will eventually end up seeing some more episodes when available.
At this point in time nobody can really claim to have "dropped" it cause there is nothing else left to drop. You are just saying that you won't watch the next seasons, but we'll see if you'll really stick to your own word. Cause I personally doubt most people will.
This season was not as good as the other ones sure. But that is not absolutely a way to say it was bad. It had awesome fights if you look at them from a graphic perspective, it had a lot of character development of 3 ashuras. It introduced a secondary character that was the brother of the wind ashura who we've seen every now and then before this but didn't know much about and didn't know if he'll be any relevant to the story. It had a massive back story of the main villain as well as one of the best single moments in the show until now when we saw Nezuko alive. That was a massive plot twist for whoever didn't read the manga before, you can't just say "it was obvious", cause it really was not. We literally saw her hide cause she didn't like the light for all the previous episodes and also scream in pain just a moment before when the sun was rising in the final episode. Why would she started to burn as she did if it was an ability of her since the very beginning as you seem to believe? Also an ashura (the water one) that fought her in the first episode when you argue that it was day, didn't ask himself how it was possible, despite him being basically an expert on the matter.
It didn't have as good enemies as the last seasons had and it was overall the worst one, but it still is worth watching and shouldn't make anyone completely drop the entire show.
I see people in my comments, reddit and other forums who couldn't get past first few episodes. Not sure why, cause problems for me started around Miuchiro's episode.
Great video. I do know the second half of the series gets super rushed because the pressure was on the author to get it out so quickly. I still enjoyed this season, but it is rougher compared to the others. Hantengu I thought was still menacing and I liked his battle but Upper 5 was a joke. I want the backstory stuff but getting it in the middle of an epic fight constantly craps all over the pacing. I feel like ufotable is saving all their resources for the Infinity Castle final season and are coasting by in the mean time. If this is the case, I hope they pour everything into that last major arc to make this season suffering somewhat worth it.
I agree, lets hope the later arcs will be better
Even if they weren't fleshed out, Gyokko and Hantengu have to be my favorite demons in the series.
They do win on the "most demon looking" front. I really like how unsettling Gyokko's appearance is, it's truly demonic!
Same I loved the fight with Hatengu
Mahis is obviously about to drop a bomb. Another banger video of course ✨🙏
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Season 3 is where I watched and felt something was off. Thank the internet that someone is able to explain what I felt
You are welcome!
I actually really enjoyed this season. I like the others more but for what this season I think it’s great. It’s just setting the foundations for the next arcs and if they are as good as they should be I think everyone will be happy.
I also think others were better and I still gave it 7/10
"likeable characters" shows zenitsu and tanjiro the most unbearable characters
that's the joke
Tanjiro is not unbearable, Zenitsu is annoying but he gets better.
Infinity Castle Arc to the end is amazing. Plot Armor is all out the window. Its a Game of Thrones kind of bloodfest
People do die, yes. But so do the villains in some dumb ways, that could have been prevented with "Strategy 101"
About the "regular people stabbing slayers" in the extra panals of the manga it's stated that those tools were mande from Enmu's bone. Hence, they were able to stab through slayers armor.
Sure, but we haven't seen the armor protecting from anything yet, not to mention that the conductor shouldn't have been able to get anywhere close to the slayers without them noticing
@@mahistv True
Also setting was a factor. Season 2 gave us a sense of scale and environment with the city and many people around at risk. Season 3 we are literally in a village… but all the fighting took place in random forest that looks the same as the fight with lower 5 in season 1. Non of the attacks from upper 5 and 4 looked large or wide, just broken wood here and there. And I mean come on we didn’t even see upper 4 go all out before he died.
Season lacked some much of what the other season did well.
Great settings tone and fear.
Hmm, I haven't considered that but you are right.
Damn, your right.
“Likable characters” 0:08
Precisely)
Excellent review Mahis! Much as you know I love Demon Slayer, I cannon argue with you're score of 7/10. I myself however give it an 8/10. As I am able to check my brain at the door when watching Demon Slayer and enjoy it for what it is. But totally get and agree with many of your points.
Sorry for a late reply, but we talked about it in disc I believe.
Fun fact tanjiro didn’t unlock his full slayer mark until season 2 and for the other slayer to unlock it a sun breather needs to unlock lock his full mark so that it can spread to others and that’s why they would look so similar to each other sometimes.
But they don't look similar though. They are all different. Well, Muichiros is kinds similar, but others look like it depends on their breathing style.
Season 2 set the standard for this so we thought season 3 would be better
Ngl I loved this manga. Started with the anime and after season 3 I needed more to read the entire manga. I wish it was longer but i think it was wrapped up in a chefs kiss
slight spoiler but the reason why rengoku couldnt unlock his demon mark is because tanjiro didnt have it by then and it was because of him that is spread and other people could get it. This is just like how because yoruiichi all the other demon slayers would become powerful.
Alright, but what happened to the DS Mark hype? It's treated as a normal occurrence now.
honestly dropped it right after barely being able to finish the second season, I just felt like the story wasn't about the characters like the first season promised and the fight at the end was hype ig but it was just cool looking, it was full of fluff, only things that changed the story of fight was when nezuko started fighting and when the older brother comes out
I actually liked the Entertainment District, but I agree, there wasn't much plot
Having read the manga waiting for this season I noticed something about the last few arcs. (Minor manga spoilers) The last arcs really zoomed by very fast and it was especially apparent in the infinity castle arc for me. A lot of significant moments and battles felt like they were crammed into the story as if demon slayer was rushing to its end. I still enjoyed it but, after the entertainment district the series really goes into maximum overdrive.
I wonder what was the cause of that?
Not sure though I wonder if it has something to do with shonen jump’s strict schedules and dead lines.
This shit was so hyped a couple years ago and now that im into anime im suddenly considering whether i should watch this or not but everyones calling it mid now so idk ☠️
It's an eye candy. If you want pure entertainment, go for it. If you are looking for deep lore and stuff, it's not that.
About the mark …
Rengoku and Tengen weren’t able to get that coz there was no one to spread it to another
Tanjirou was the first to unlock the mark same like yorichi who was born with the mark
The mark spreads like an infectious disease
So tanjirou was the reason that muichiro and Mitsuri easily unlocked their mark
Yeah, I don't like that. This makes Tanjiro the sole reason DS corps achieves anything
How did tanjiro awaken his mark again? Its been a while since I read the manga but I remember specifically that you need to spend time around someone who already has it, so how did he do it?
He had it because of Sun Breathing and THAT started the chain reaction.
@@mahistv was it specifically stated in the manga that the sun breathing was the reason for it?
The worst thing about Demon Slayer for me is that the story will go over a certain situation and then just completely sideline it for the rest of the series. Like Tanjiro's limit on his usage of sun breathing, what happened with that? Dude just spams it now. Or an entire fucking upper moon, you could take Gyokko out and I wouldn't even notice it.
I hate when you can take whole plot point out and nothing will change!
The limit on his sun breathing was because he was weak and inexperienced using it, nothing more.
It's a fucking sword technique, why are you crying so hard.
Not to mention, this is the sword technique which he himself is strongest while using.
The style best suited to him.
Of course it would take much less time to master than his water breathing techniques.
It was a situation, and it was not, in fact, fucking sidelined.
Kyojuro fucking died because he became fucking paralyzed after using a single sun breathing technique.
So he trained, and now he can use them freely.
Is it that fucking hard to comprehend???
Following what you said, the problem is lack of clear limitations on what the character is currently capable of doing. We see someone getting their bones broken but turns out they're still able to use powerful attacks anyway, taking out the stakes of their injuries. Why we need to worry then?
The only parts that I didn't like was how they treated some of the characters
1. Muichiro knocked tanjiro down twice rudely and made tanjiro get CLOSE to mitsuri and I mean close.
2. Gyokko got no backstory or anything about his backstory. If the other demons have one shouldn't he?
3. When they fought gyutaro he destroyed mostly everything in sight plus he needed 4 demon slayers to defeat him and the demon slayers barely won yet They made Gyokko look like a weak joke of how he died. He is a higher rank he shouldbe stronger.
Do you agree?
I agree
Disagree with 2 tbh because not all demons require a backstory and most of demon backstories are made up their suffering and sadness and it feels they are using a story but different with characters .
What makes the power scalling even more insulting, is that this was a weakened Tanjiro. He hadn't even recovered from his injuries yet.
Hmmm. I thought the hot spiting was supposed to have "healing properties".
9:25 As stated in the manga, the mark appears on other Hashiras only after it appears on a sun breather.
Well, one more reason why Tanjiro is carrying the Slayers
As someone who reads the manga.
Yeah i can understand why people thought this season was mid as hell.
And the honest answer is, It was supposed to be. The UM4 and 5 are not interesting enough to make the season feel good.
Also besides that, this arc was manly supposed to be a plot arc to make the hashiras get to know of Demon slayer mark (basically a buff to keep up with demons) and to make Tanjiro stronger and progress the plot.
However the next arc is gonna be infinity Castle and that imo is peak DS.
Sure, but the plot barely moved here, with the exception of a lot of characters' backstories.
Its been a long time since I've agreed so much with an anime critic video... You were right on points
Thank you, I'm glad to hear it
Some seasons are better than others, if people are dropping the show just because of a ""bad"" season then they're stupid
Agreed, Just because it's slower than usual, doesn't mean you should drop the whole show
Agreed. Season one was good because it built up the world, main characters, and lore. Mugen Train was good because of Rengoku and Akaza, Entertainment District was good because of Gyutaro and Daki. This season's villains were the two out of the main bunch that I don't give a crap about. I like Gyutaro, Daki, Akaza, Douma, Kokushibou, and Muzan. I like most of the main characters and side heroes. But man... Gyokko and Hantengu were a real snooze fest. Though getting to see the Fortress and meet everybody was great.
sorry what? tf is this....we're talking about a whole season here not an ep or two, If I felt like I can't stand this season htf would I be able to watch the season after it ?
@@Qudi19you just do it? Lol
@@joeym3147 no i mean for example i couldn't even get passed the 3rd ep of the seven deadly sins it was season 3 i think....and i couldn't keep up with the anime after that bcs i couldn't see anything from that season so how can u not drop a series if u couldn't watch one WHOLE SEASON especially if it was in the middle
This video was perfection 🔥🔥
Thank you! Hopefully I will continue making as good of a stuff
I for one loved it for what it was but I agree the villains could have been build up much better
I liked it overall too.
yeh i agree with some of these points in the video you made and as a manga reader some of these problems you have get better in the manga i persoanlly think and some things get explained and have reasons behind what was going on
There are certain point in manga where it's actually worse than the show... Like that moment when Muzan said he can tell where Nezuko is but decided not to act
@@mahistv True true, also sorry for the long reply and yh i agree
Simple. Because it took them three seasons and a movie to realise that it's mid
Pretty much
Great and objective analysis, very enjoyable video. Thanks comrade!
Thank YOU for watching!
Did they stay in the village even though they literally just got attacked meaning that its most likely not hidden anymore
No, it will be explained in Hashira training arc that Master has empty villages that they can use if such a thing occurs. So they'll be moving after this arc
No, the moved.
It's was known by people who readed the manga this season would be mid but what shocked me was the recycle abuse of resources that worked in previous season. It was like looking to a copy paste of the previous director work. The looooong camera effect killed me.
Not only that, you can see that they put less effort into animation. it looked much cheaper
i agree, but episode 11 felt like perfect pacing again. i liked the season but it had some flaws. i know the next seasons are gonna be great. and tanjiro had to get the mark so others could get it too
Can't wait to see the next season!
So I think (I red the manga for this and spoiled myself y'all better thank me) the demon slayer mark spreads like wildfire the second one can do it just like how the golden era of slayers became the golden era of slayers because yuriichi was born with the mark and soon the mark spreads to other slayers this giving birth to the golden era. Now that our boi tanjiro has access to the mark it also went to other slayers. So in short the slayer mark is like corona but replacing the bad shvt with good shvt
So Tanjiro is carrying the corps even more, damn this plot.
if you have not read the manga dont read the rest.
Rengoku never got his mark because Tanjiro needed to unlock it first just like how yorichi got his mark the mark started to spread throughout more his eras Hashira. The same is happening with tanjiros era he needs to unlock the mark first before anyone else. Hes a sun breather and the manga makes it clear that Yorichi and Tanjiro are meant to be very similar. The fact that tanjiro can use sun breathing by seeing his farther practice sun breathing: dance is just wow. They are meant to be similar but sadly Rengoku just had to die since he fought akaza before Tanjiro got the mark. Uzui also would have gotten the mark if Tanjiro had lets say awakened it with the fight between Daki. Making the Tanjiro and Uzui vs Gyutaro a lot easier since Tanjiro has the mark already and uzui would have awakened it when he lost his hand and compressed his muscles to stop the poison from getting to his heart
Tanjiro had the mark since ep 5 though...
@@mahistv For the last time, that shit was not awakened. It was only a scar at the time.
@mahistv Was just a scar from boiling water. Just a little thing called foreshadowing.
@@mahistvthat was a scar
honestly, the way i wouldve done Nezuko gaining sun immunity was that she actually DID always have it. now, feel free to correct me if im wrong cuz ive only watched mugen train and entertainment district and then done random wiki page dives, but their entire family is somewhat connected to the sun so i think it's kinda believable that she'd have this immunity or at least resistance. but nobody else knows. Nezuko knows she has it and from the start we see her make several attempts to go out in the sunlight in certain scenarios, but Tanjiro stops her each time thinking she doesnt know better, and her being unable to communicate means he obviously wont understand, and eventually, she stops trying and just goes along with his measures to keep her out of the sun to make him feel better. that way it'd be more hinting towards it, i think, idunno if that's much better but ye just an idea i had
The issue is they have removed too many episodes, like peeps complaining about season one having too much filler but the truth is, they keep getting to the point without giving characters time to grow, and fights to be interesting, my hope is that the Hashira training arc will be training (yes) but emotional connections, discussions etc to make us love the characters we will soon loose, they need to learn more, more episodes with Nezuko they just need to slow down, filler episodes aren’t even filler, they are just the characters having fun.
Hmm. I thought it was pretty close to the original in terms of what and how it happened.
I still liked it but the pacing was a bit off at times. I felt like some scenes that deserved more screentime were rushed and others that were not that important were really long.
also would have liked to see more of Genya, like how he figured out he could eat deamons. also the plot armor with this one was crazy, tanjiro and nezuko should have been dead 5minutes after Hantengu showed up
demon slayer is the best example of "oh what a nice animation, let me ignore everything else because the animation distracts me from all the essentials of what makes a good story"
I can't imagine people out there describing Zenitsu as a good character...simply no, I haven't seen anything as annoying as him in a long time.
tanjrio's attitude is annoying too, you have sympathy for everything and everyone... uhm tanjiro? why are you crying for demons who just reduced innocent people and a whole village to rubble and ashes? (gyutaro & daki)
I would have preferred Inosuke to have more screentime.
let alone the missing world building and no offense people, but the principle with the breathing techniques is really nothing unusual (just for your information, the effects with fire, water, thunder, etc., you don't actually see at all, so how do the breathing techniques differ from each other? )
JoJo's Hamon is a good example of a well thought out power up system
In my opinion, Demon Slayer only got the hype because UfoTable did a good job with the animation, but that's about it. if you look at the manga you will also notice that it is really not well drawn... but well... it's just my opinion (and apparently many others')
I have to agree with most of what you are saying
I COULDNT AGREE MORE WITH THIS REVIEW !!
Thank you!
This video is funny considering ds s3 is still most watched anime of 23 and shibyua isn’t/
I'd love to see stats of S1 vs MT vs ET vs S3. I can only judge based on what I see in my comment section and forums
@@mahistv it was literally released by shonen jump like a coup weeks ago
"the Jackson's origins" caught me offguard 🤣
Love that meme)
Afterr mitsuri's display i can't believe people really think she's stronger than Rengoku
I mean she is
She definitely doesn't have the spirit nor resolve of her mentor. Gave up way too soon and didn't push past her limits
@@mahistvher getting eaten was still ok but her crying sucks . I think they just wanted to make her character funny
I dont want to flex or anything but i was the 69th like. (Great video btw, I find your demon slayer content most entertaining!)
That's NICE! We will have more DS, so stay put
as someone who read the manga, the mark situation gets fixed don't worry, it has it's downsides and it makes sense why it appeared in the others more easily
It's a bit convoluted still.
@@mahistv you are indeed right, also another point i want to make is that post season 3 almost all backstories are unique
@@mahistv Not that convoluted, the requirements are clear.
Temperature of 39 degrees CELSIUS, and a heart rate of 200.
Oh and, you have to be on the verge of death, at a very critical moment, where upon you decide to summon all of your strength *_and more._*
@@Hivatel exactly i just didn't want to spoil anything
@@firstgameplaygr8186 ye
yeah its quite annoying for rengoku like really his 9th form is attack whitch user takes all his strenght and will for this one finishing attack and you say to me it didint activate his mark or a blazing red sword I'm dissapointed tbh
oh and if you think about it like they have slain 6th 5th and 4th upper moons so who is left for next akaza and it seems a bit rushed for me
The last half of the story is rushed indeed. We went form Tanjiro not being able to scratch a Lower Moon, to Tanjiro almost soloing Upper moons in a matter of 3 arcs, 12 episodes each.
If season 4 is like the manga they will be back and muzan is even more of an idiot for not given his 6 demon at the price of one more blood
Yeah... but I don't think the anime will change much
Demon slayer is carried by its presentation, but all flash and no substance eventually wears thin on people in the long haul. Shows like Aot or JJK have other elements that keep people coming back besides the great animation, and unfortunately, Demon Slayer is a show that is about as deep as a grade school pool. There are no character arcs, no characters that go beyond 'anime' personalities, and no real overarching plot or mystery. The great aesthetic, character designs, music and animation are all excellent, but those things are like waving a shiny object in front of a cat. Eventually, the cat loses interest because there's nothing else there
Yeah, the show is a bit too shallow
Looks like people finally saw how poor the writing is. Nothing said here doesn't also apply to the first season of the show.
Fundamentals in terms of writing, Demon slayer bad from the beginning No Deeper Truths or life advices to be taught ever since episode 1 That's why consequences are valued cause they encourage you to learn No metaphors subtext or technicality then your looking at one pretty generic show
I've been saying that for a while lol)
The stakes felt higher in S2, but in S3, not once did I feel like anyone was in danger, so to me it got stale very fast
A good point!
90% flashback 5% literal humans surviving things they shouldn’t be able to survive 5% asspull powers boosts. Seriously how does someone survive being in a water bubble for like 6 entire god damn episodes
Not just that, how do you inhale that air without all the surrounding water?
Prob bc manga chapters end at certain points and the anime ends at different ones, thats why pacing and some things seem misplaced
Hmmm. That's when you turn your brain on as a producer and fix this
Season 3 is the worst season by a mile, and I was so high on season 1 and 2. There were only like two episodes worth watching imo
Agreed, by itself it may be OK, but comparing it to the previous ones... oh boi
I would like to see the flashbacks after the fight not during it
Agreed. Unless, they are done Obito VS Kakashi style
@@mahistv yeah
Don't question it. It's a lot more fun that way
I have fun questioning things)
if you don´t question it then nothing will change or get better, and you will end with the isekai problem in wich most of them nowadays are mid copypastes of the same writting issues. I love demon slayer, i will still watch it cause stup11d as it is is still entertaining, but i would love it even more if it was written better
id say the end of season 3 is absolutely amazing.. hantengu fight only slaps during misturi's section and the only good section of gyokko vs muichiro was the end of the episode where they ACTUALLY fought and was so well made
S3 was mid except for episode 1 and the finale.
Basically the upper moons 4&5 were uninteresting. And the only redeeming qualities was the upper moons 1-3 and Muzan Jackson.
Yeah, I was hoping for a charismatic villain, but we got this
@@mahistv hopefully next season steps up.
Apparently there's a short training arc but right after it is peak
@@azrael_pendragonmuzan is a horrible villain
@@ZayTh3God no tf he ain't, he's a simple yet a menace with style.
His power alongside his personality, his obsession over consistency and the fear he brings upon the entire demon slayer verse including The Demons themselves is very good.
I'm not saying he is the best villain ever, cus no. Kokushibo looks and feels more threatening but Muzan is still a really cool villain and is in no way horrible.
@@azrael_pendragon his motivation and actions are poorly written there are multiple times where he could won he’s a garbage villain
The last time I remember people turning on a series this hard was Sword Art Online. Only at least with Sword Art Online people were taking issue with the characters and story as a whole. Here they just seem to be taking issue with tropes that have existed in the shonen genre since its inception, its just more noticeable here because the western audience that grew up with anime is older and more cynical. I'm pretty sure you could find just as many, if not more, things to nitpick in a series like Dragon Ball, like how the Super Saiyan 2 multiplier makes no goddamn sense and completely breaks power scaling established in fights like base Goku versus Frieza. Though, in fairness, you could probably argue that power scaling in that series was busted as far back as Master Roshi's moon busting feat in the Tournament Saga.
The tropes on demon slayer r over the top. They take every known shounen trope and fit in a singular piece within demon slayer. Zennitsu is tge crybaby whis secretly a badass. Innosukes the idiot. Nezuko is the inner demon. Tanjiro is the insufferably kind saint. Gyomei is the character within the protagonist group known as "the strongest". Giyuu is the emo.
Also aside from tge hardcore db fans, most people recognize db as one of tge worst written shounen out tgere at the moment, so u it doesnt need to be pointed out.
I made fun of DBZ on multiple occasions and I'd say that these are not nit-pick, since pacing, for example, is a major issue which has nothing to do with a particular genre
i know what's your point but i loved this season too and really didn't care about these down sides the fights were fire 🔥
I still enjoyed the season, thats why I gave it 7/10
The demon slayer mark thing and it just apearing on muichiro and mitsuri and not rengoku is explained on the manga. Basically when one unlocks the demon slayer mark people around him start unlocking it too and that is why rengoku and tengen didint unlock it on their battles, because tanjiro was the first one to unlock it.
Just because it was explained does not mean its appealing story writing. They obviously came up with whatever excuse they could to justify tengen not getting it. Marks ruined demon slayer. Entertainment arc did great without any bullshit power boosts.
Not everything has to have dbz powerscaling