That format is new best thing on your channel. Tier lists were great, but you can do very finite quantity of it. This hero spotlight series are good substitution for me.
dont worry the whole time he is doing math he is comparing the value of one point and that is totally moot becuase rain of fire is terrible and the actual math that mattters is the reduced damage not the value of the skillpoint
@@user-vm7bx1bq4s the actual math that matter is the one of the value of the skillpoint actually. Let's say you are playing an Archmage and uou just hit level 4, you already have lvl 2 water elemental and lvl 1 brilliance aura. at level 4 you can only choose between lvl 2 brilliance aura or lvl 1 blizzard. You can't compare the whole value of lvl 2 aura to the value provided by lvl 1 blizzard, because even if you picked blizzard, you still have your lvl 1 aura value. That's why you only compare wether an added lvl 2 value to brilliance aura is better than blizzard or not. not the whole ability. And the same goes for Pit lord, you have lvl 2 cleave and lvl 1 howl, you hit lvl 4 and you need to calculate wether you will get more value from having lvl 1 rain of fire and lvl 1 howl, or just lvl 2 howl. That's why you count relative values and not the avsolute ones in RTS games
@@krzysztofputerko1943 rain of fire is a zero skill so NO its exactly like I said. there is no other way to put a fourth skill point except to throw it in the garbage and it wouldnt matter how efficient the gain of level 2 is compared to one becuase it is leagues above the other skill and is actually usefull. the fact u use a other hero as a example proves u cant fking read
Bloodmage next - lots of interesting discussion points around Banish - how to use it to creep, using it on enemy dps hero, using it on your own vulnerable hero, using it as part of a nuke vs UD etc all with 0 cd. Also the mana siphon has lots of uses, Phoenix is one of the coolest ults in the game, and Flamestrike is a firm favourite for the 4v4 worker destruction cheese. Also, he's cool as fuck and has a great BAT.
I love the fact that you're considering your youtube audience and not only your chat during your stream It reminds a bit of the old youtube before twitch arrived Juste a little "Hey youtube what's up" is always cool, thank's Grubby love your content ❤
You know I was thinking to myself. Why does this scratch a particular itch? What have I been missing that these kinds of things fill? And then it hit me. This feeling is what I used to get from reading game manuals. When I was a kid. I had tons of console games from the '90s and I used to always get in a really hot bath with a stack of maybe 15 or 16 game manuals or guides and I would just drink coke and go through all the manuals page by page. This is great.
Kids in the modern times revel in this pleasure by reading wiki pages of games. Fandom might not be great, but other wikis keep the same spirit as Wikipedia. GameFAQs comes to mind, too.
I have had this idea that hero-applied debuffs such as Howl of Terror should be undispellable (like Acid Bomb and Thunder Clap). Imagine Pit Lord third taken for a support role. Negating the entire spell with dispels feels so cheap, and it's not summons which would do need counterplay. - Adûnâi
Pit Lord is one of the best makeshift 3rd heroes. His Howl of Terror is a 30% damage debuff against non magic immune units and its duration is longer than its cooldown.
interesting to read the turn rate guide, shows once again how polished this engine is. Maybe some of the confusion comes there being two turn rates, an actual and a visual, like you notice sometimes how a unit hits attacks before it actually turned all the way towards its target. The guide talks about the visual in equally important terms, though for our purposes actual turn rate is what matters.
"Lacks fienesse", is somewhat lore accurate, the pit Lord being a reckless destroyer and all. But at the same time, he does posses SOME cunning, such as spilling his blood into the fountain for the orcs to drink and fall under his influence. However, Mannaroth needed Tichondrius for that to happen.
Pitlord! my favorite hero. A real shame its not a playable hero in hots. The coil + unholyfrenzy pitlord combo is such a nice strategy. I dont know if this is good, but making a later altar you can get more units, then get tavern hero as you walk over map.
I don't play Warcraft 3; the last time I played was a decade ago, me and my bro fighting AI, but I love watching pros go at it and these videos is just fun
i am amazed and intrigued about all the flexible uses that the pit lord has. i am going to try that DK/Fiend/Pit tactic right now, sounds fun and versatile af :D
Plus ... You can counter Pit Lord by delaying your upgrades. :) The more attack you have, the more powerful Howl of Terror is. The more armor you have, the more is ignored by Cleave, Rain of Fire and Doom. I'd say the best counter to him as a race is Night Elves. They rarely engage in melee except with tanky units and are also great at kiting. All the other races can counter him, but are forced to play certain strats like having casters or high pop melee units or mass range. This means overall, Pit Lord and almost all casters go really well together. He can make unusual units stand out like Wyverns whete he reduces enemy damage, they prevent enemy from kiting the Pit Lord while kiting themselves.
As a long-time Azgalor-first enjoyer, it's good to see that you're finally highlighting the only true S-tier hero in the game. In all seriousness, I think the pit lord is among the best heroes for low elo play because he's incredibly tanky, which protects you from your own bad micro, and cleave absolutely wrecks a poorly-microed opposing army.
Shadow hunter. Specifically if there is any redemption for his big bad voodoo. (Like spirit link, or healing wards by him to offset enemy targeting, invuln potion, give him survival items/ alloftheabove etc.)
5:08 The labels on the back Paladins are backwards: the top Paladin has the lowest (8) armor and the lower Paladin has the highest (20) armor. This ironically reinforces the idea that the ability deals the same damage regardless of the target's armor xD
I kinda feel like a trick that you didn't mention is focus firing an enemy thats in an advantageous position alongside casting doom and basically insta spawning a unit with warstomp. With good target selection and timing you can shift the entire battle landscape with a surprise doom guard. Obviously this can be countered with fast reaction healing/zepplins, but if you have like a lich or something and have enough dps to 1 shot an enemy unit it can be very powerful.
Wild idea: what if Mountain Giants could have an ability like pitlords howl with higher percentages, combined with some effect of taking damage from other units, like the spirit bond (is that the name for Tauren mages skill? I didn't play the game for 15 years) instead of a taunt. Perhaps it can be coded.
Imagine turning like closing a window (I'm using a window as an example to illustrate the point and also to showcase there is a limit to this value, you cannot close a window beyond the frame and also you cannot smash it shut in this scenario). Your turn rate is the vertical height of your window and you close it from top to bottom. A smaller window gets closed relatively faster than a bigger window if we use the same speed everytime we close one. That's it. I guess these rules were designed to avoid having models doing an instant 180 degree rotation and to make them feel "grounded" according to their size/weight
I would love for you to go over different mercenaries from mercenary camps and from laboratory and explain why and when they are used. I find that part of the game quite complicated for a casual viewer.
I rly look foward to Brewmaster's spotlight. Because i have no idea when to build towards each of his basic skills, and if i iirc i think i've seen Grubby take different combinations.
Glad the Death Coil tech got mentioned; this boy is CHONKY when you've got Death Coil I haven't played this game in forever and immediately thought "DK/PL, Necromancer Unholy Frenzy timing push" and then you mentioned it lol. Not sure which 3rd hero to take though.
Pitlord being predominantly an Orcish hero is thematically satisfying
"You bought him at the tavern... WILLINGLY?!" - Thrall
@@HellecticMojo "what is your feeble request ?
....Dont waste my time." - PL
"Revel in the suffering of all other living beings👹👹👹👹👹"
Grubby" that's nice 😊😊😊😊"
Watched that part like 8 times because it was hilarious
Lets gooo! DH next please!
Edit: The editor needs a raise or at least a..one million beers. That cleavage demon-stratiton was sick..quite literally.
I think it's an old thumbnail
16:43 that spontaneous voiceover haha
That format is new best thing on your channel. Tier lists were great, but you can do very finite quantity of it. This hero spotlight series are good substitution for me.
Game streamers explaining math to people who weren't listening in high school.
here
numbers are hard
dont worry the whole time he is doing math he is comparing the value of one point and that is totally moot becuase rain of fire is terrible and the actual math that mattters is the reduced damage not the value of the skillpoint
@@user-vm7bx1bq4s the actual math that matter is the one of the value of the skillpoint actually.
Let's say you are playing an Archmage and uou just hit level 4, you already have lvl 2 water elemental and lvl 1 brilliance aura. at level 4 you can only choose between lvl 2 brilliance aura or lvl 1 blizzard. You can't compare the whole value of lvl 2 aura to the value provided by lvl 1 blizzard, because even if you picked blizzard, you still have your lvl 1 aura value. That's why you only compare wether an added lvl 2 value to brilliance aura is better than blizzard or not. not the whole ability.
And the same goes for Pit lord, you have lvl 2 cleave and lvl 1 howl, you hit lvl 4 and you need to calculate wether you will get more value from having lvl 1 rain of fire and lvl 1 howl, or just lvl 2 howl.
That's why you count relative values and not the avsolute ones in RTS games
@@krzysztofputerko1943 rain of fire is a zero skill so NO its exactly like I said. there is no other way to put a fourth skill point except to throw it in the garbage and it wouldnt matter how efficient the gain of level 2 is compared to one becuase it is leagues above the other skill and is actually usefull. the fact u use a other hero as a example proves u cant fking read
I come from the darkness of your pit!
What a foolish boy
Ok, but this video does not explain why there is a burning legion demon chillin in a tavern
All of the legion leaders have been killed, so a lot of their generals have been forced to find new jobs
No, old friend. You've freed us all.
Thrall roars.
Bloodmage next - lots of interesting discussion points around Banish - how to use it to creep, using it on enemy dps hero, using it on your own vulnerable hero, using it as part of a nuke vs UD etc all with 0 cd. Also the mana siphon has lots of uses, Phoenix is one of the coolest ults in the game, and Flamestrike is a firm favourite for the 4v4 worker destruction cheese. Also, he's cool as fuck and has a great BAT.
Archmage def needs to have his Spotlight. He's brilliant!
I love the fact that you're considering your youtube audience and not only your chat during your stream
It reminds a bit of the old youtube before twitch arrived
Juste a little "Hey youtube what's up" is always cool, thank's Grubby love your content ❤
Love this. Looking forward for more 😊 tahnks mr Grubs.
I love when Grubby says: “what a foolish boy”. Was expecting it as part of the video. Anyways enjoyed a lot. This talks are so relaxing and light
8:37 ahhh so satisfying; I could almost hear MK death sound, which is definitely in top3 of my fav death sounds
You know I was thinking to myself. Why does this scratch a particular itch? What have I been missing that these kinds of things fill?
And then it hit me.
This feeling is what I used to get from reading game manuals. When I was a kid. I had tons of console games from the '90s and I used to always get in a really hot bath with a stack of maybe 15 or 16 game manuals or guides and I would just drink coke and go through all the manuals page by page.
This is great.
Kids in the modern times revel in this pleasure by reading wiki pages of games. Fandom might not be great, but other wikis keep the same spirit as Wikipedia. GameFAQs comes to mind, too.
Best part of getting a new game was absorbing the game manual in the car on the way home before playing it.
Kids these days will never know!
I have had this idea that hero-applied debuffs such as Howl of Terror should be undispellable (like Acid Bomb and Thunder Clap). Imagine Pit Lord third taken for a support role. Negating the entire spell with dispels feels so cheap, and it's not summons which would do need counterplay.
- Adûnâi
I'm in love with your later series, the Spotlight and the BHL as well, keep up the great work!
Pit Lord is one of the best makeshift 3rd heroes. His Howl of Terror is a 30% damage debuff against non magic immune units and its duration is longer than its cooldown.
interesting to read the turn rate guide, shows once again how polished this engine is. Maybe some of the confusion comes there being two turn rates, an actual and a visual, like you notice sometimes how a unit hits attacks before it actually turned all the way towards its target.
The guide talks about the visual in equally important terms, though for our purposes actual turn rate is what matters.
doomed shade piles incoming, good luck finding my invisible timebombs. DK crypt fiend into PL obsidian into devourer shade
That rarest of UD Heroes needs a spotlight: Bring the Vampy boy Dreadlord out!
Watched this live, enjoying it again!
You should number those spotlights, #1, #2 etc, so in later times when you make them a playlist, we are able to find the # we want.
Good idea, I think I'll start numbering them when we have a few more, maybe!
"Lacks fienesse", is somewhat lore accurate, the pit Lord being a reckless destroyer and all. But at the same time, he does posses SOME cunning, such as spilling his blood into the fountain for the orcs to drink and fall under his influence. However, Mannaroth needed Tichondrius for that to happen.
I really love this format that really details how heroes work/goes in depth about how or when to use them. Thank you!
6:00 that's definitely the highest amount of cleave damage possible💀😂😂
grubby has such a soft spot for the pit lord
Pitlord! my favorite hero. A real shame its not a playable hero in hots. The coil + unholyfrenzy pitlord combo is such a nice strategy. I dont know if this is good, but making a later altar you can get more units, then get tavern hero as you walk over map.
WHAT A FOOLISH BOY!
the production value on these videos is awesome.
Love these, pit lord was in my original top 5 favorite heroes.
15:55 - Surprised Pikachu face
I don't play Warcraft 3; the last time I played was a decade ago, me and my bro fighting AI, but I love watching pros go at it and these videos is just fun
Loving these spotlights. Concentrated discussions on singular pieces.
i am amazed and intrigued about all the flexible uses that the pit lord has.
i am going to try that DK/Fiend/Pit tactic right now, sounds fun and versatile af :D
I love these hero spotlights, please keep them coming
Plus ... You can counter Pit Lord by delaying your upgrades. :)
The more attack you have, the more powerful Howl of Terror is.
The more armor you have, the more is ignored by Cleave, Rain of Fire and Doom.
I'd say the best counter to him as a race is Night Elves. They rarely engage in melee except with tanky units and are also great at kiting.
All the other races can counter him, but are forced to play certain strats like having casters or high pop melee units or mass range.
This means overall, Pit Lord and almost all casters go really well together.
He can make unusual units stand out like Wyverns whete he reduces enemy damage, they prevent enemy from kiting the Pit Lord while kiting themselves.
Thanks for doing spotlight of my favorite hero so early! I'd like to see Blood or Paladin Mage next
Cool, this is so informative. Nice analyzing 👍
He starts the spoltights with the two objectively best heros in the game, Grubby never dissapints!! :)
Thank you for being one of the few YTers who uses the word cast correctly!
love this, thanks for all your extra time and devotion and sharing with fans, please do Kaelthas or Sylvanas next
Would love to see spotlights on the units too, explaining the uses and combos, these videos are great for a bronze level like me
I need a Tinker spotlight to explain me the lore behind neutral goblins in WC3. Were horde wages for goblin sappers really that low?
As a long-time Azgalor-first enjoyer, it's good to see that you're finally highlighting the only true S-tier hero in the game.
In all seriousness, I think the pit lord is among the best heroes for low elo play because he's incredibly tanky, which protects you from your own bad micro, and cleave absolutely wrecks a poorly-microed opposing army.
I think Crota gaming channel has a game where the PL wrecks havoc on the opposing enemies army 1v1. ill try to find it for you.
Please keep doing these!
I would like to see Dark Ranger next.
Very nice! Would love to see you explain Tinker ^^
I think I speak for almost everyone when I say if you just wanna do this for every single Hero in WC3, we are absolutely here for it.
I really want to see a spotlight video of an undead hero next! Lich has got a lot to talk about, and some we almost never see!
I love this! More in this series please
Shadow hunter. Specifically if there is any redemption for his big bad voodoo. (Like spirit link, or healing wards by him to offset enemy targeting, invuln potion, give him survival items/ alloftheabove etc.)
5:08 The labels on the back Paladins are backwards: the top Paladin has the lowest (8) armor and the lower Paladin has the highest (20) armor. This ironically reinforces the idea that the ability deals the same damage regardless of the target's armor xD
I would love a firelord video next
Thanks for putting this out!
I think Firelord deserves to be next. Love your videos!
Another great video! Here are my top three picks for future videos:
1: Paladin
2: Crypt Lord
3: Demon Hunter
Love the series! Keep it up
5:59 thank you for bleaching my eyes grubby
hey cool my 2nd fav hero, you already did the 1st :D thanks Grubby xoxo
I think Tinker would be great as a next hero spotlight candidate. I've never really understood what are his objectives and gameplan.
Great video man ❤
The burning legion invasion imagination
Really enjoying these.
thanks for this one! I'm guessing for the next spotlight you might do a race not done yet, so I'll vote for my favorite hero the warden!
This explanation is really great
Next hero defo should be the infamous "Tier D" bug, the Crypt Lord
Goblin Tinker and Firelord would ba awesome
I kinda feel like a trick that you didn't mention is focus firing an enemy thats in an advantageous position alongside casting doom and basically insta spawning a unit with warstomp. With good target selection and timing you can shift the entire battle landscape with a surprise doom guard. Obviously this can be countered with fast reaction healing/zepplins, but if you have like a lich or something and have enough dps to 1 shot an enemy unit it can be very powerful.
Excellent video! You should do Lich next!
Wild idea: what if Mountain Giants could have an ability like pitlords howl with higher percentages, combined with some effect of taking damage from other units, like the spirit bond (is that the name for Tauren mages skill? I didn't play the game for 15 years) instead of a taunt. Perhaps it can be coded.
Flying Unit doomed, flies over water, dies, no Doomguard spawns.
Pitlord: What trickery is this?
Dreadlord next please :-)
6:00 OF detected.
Gorlocks Sister.
Great video, i would love to see one on Pandaren Brewmaster!
firelord of course!
Pit Lord: "What is your feeble request?"
Viewers: "More hero dissertations."
Shabba nabba babba doo! Lets go for the shadow hunter next!
Love this format!
Lich next would be cool
Imagine turning like closing a window (I'm using a window as an example to illustrate the point and also to showcase there is a limit to this value, you cannot close a window beyond the frame and also you cannot smash it shut in this scenario). Your turn rate is the vertical height of your window and you close it from top to bottom. A smaller window gets closed relatively faster than a bigger window if we use the same speed everytime we close one. That's it. I guess these rules were designed to avoid having models doing an instant 180 degree rotation and to make them feel "grounded" according to their size/weight
I would love for you to go over different mercenaries from mercenary camps and from laboratory and explain why and when they are used. I find that part of the game quite complicated for a casual viewer.
I rly look foward to Brewmaster's spotlight. Because i have no idea when to build towards each of his basic skills, and if i iirc i think i've seen Grubby take different combinations.
One of my fav W3 Heroes!
Ah, the hero that I never used. I'm very curious about this one
Glad the Death Coil tech got mentioned; this boy is CHONKY when you've got Death Coil
I haven't played this game in forever and immediately thought "DK/PL, Necromancer Unholy Frenzy timing push" and then you mentioned it lol. Not sure which 3rd hero to take though.
dl with a vampiric aura for kicks, or you can have a lich with frost amor that makes hard to resist the pitbull too
Finally! University of Warcraft III. Subjects in which the Nobel Laureate of worker rush - Grubby, leads
Mannoroth would approve of this content
Panda 🐼 next!
Another banger for my favorite unloved lord of pits! Could you do Warden next grubby?
based content creation
firelord!!!! you gotta tell us all about firelord! i remember playing him back in the day, but i was a noob so everything i know is wrong!
Doom a wisp. Explode wisp on something. You just made an infernal that we have at home
Doomed units are silenced, cannot detonate
I'd like to nominate the Warden for a hero spotlight. She seems to play differently to other NE heroes and I'd like an explanation for that.
Firelord next would be lit 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Cast it on a friendly unit very low on HP during battle for a deny if need be as well.
I am confused why you didnt use the reforged model ?
Just so we can tell wtf we are looking at instead the 3 pixel model from W3 OG
The fact that he does not eat coil vs undead makes him a good pick for 2nd spot. I need to try him as second to keeper vs undeads
Just excelent information!
Nice ! Next the Dark Ranger please