I feel like in a fair fight, ozen would win since she has strength and defense. But let's be real. It would be a fight to the death which means bondrewd would use his arsenal of weapons and all kinds of dirty tricks. Or should I say...bloody tricks
Bondrewed is like ironman Physically he cant do much, but try to catch fades with him while hes equipped? You better have brought your own shovel because he's not gonna dig your grave out for you.
In the actual lore bondrewd is considered to be the strongest sovereign. Literally all others are afraid of him (this is stated in the manga) and literally most of the reason why he is allowed to do all of his experiments is because no one wants to tell him no. Ozen is strong, yes, however bondrewd quite literally isn't considered human anymore, his consciousness is described as having "become something other than human" or maybe it was better than human, can't remember the exact quote. Point is, ozen is strong, but that's all she has. Bondrewd has better armor,better and more weapons, better tech, he can revive himself, swap bodies, he's figured out how to give himself blessings (which make you much faster and stronger than normal people, even without his tech bondrewd with the blessings would take out ozen) On top of this, I'm sure someone's pointed this out already, but ozen couldn't break the reg that didn't even know how to fight when she was trying, bondrewd captured this reg, dismantled it before letting it go, then fought and would've won against the reg that could fight, if it wasn't for the children helping he would've won that. Ozens strong and very durable for a human, which is why she's the unmoveable sovereign, however bondrewd has ascended past humanity, is immortal, and can even do things such as avoiding the effects of the curse. Ozens much stronger, yes, however she would still lose faster than she can say "I thought there were one of you"
I don’t remember Bondrewd being said to be the strongest, chapter 15 even contradicts this saying even among the sovereigns Ozen is peerless in strength. Sure Bondrewd’s mind is stated to not be human but his body still is and can easily die. You also make huge assumptions about Ozen being weak when we don’t see many of her relics and tools so you can’t state Bondrewd has better armour, weapons, or tech. For the blessing it’s not like can replicate the blessing anytime soon and again we don’t know enough about Ozen to say anything about it but. Also what are you talking about Ozen literally bruised reg and stomped him unconscious, while Bondrewd took reg in his sleep so it’s not even comparable.
so ozen has the strength of well, at least more than maybe 5k men i think, and bondrewd has basically ascended beyond human, so do you think 5k men+ can beat an ascended human/beyond human organism
In the latest episode, we know that Bondrewd is not a particularly powerful member of the White Whistle. When slajjo visited Bondrewd's stronghold for his "last dive", he raided her to take possession of her men and artifacts, but many Umbra Hands died in the battle.
@@johnkrame1763 Actually, she has the strength of 120000 people. Assuming this boosts all of her abilities by 120000 times, that would let her punch through concrete, move at above reentry speeds, and is basically immune to everything. Bondrewd has some nifty gadgets, but he'd get speedblitzed before he would even realize where Ozen was.
You think Ozen would get tired that easily? This is the White Whistle, Dommy Mummy, Immovable Sovereign, OZEN the Unmovable The same Woman, who carried the Curse repelling Vessel up FOUR LAYERS OF THE ABYSS and who’s the say she hasn’t implanted more of those wedges since You think a fight with Bondrewd would tire her out? God I’d let Ozen string me up naked to punish me any hour of any day
Bruh, with blessing he could easily cut Reg, was stupid fast, strong and was beating the shit out of him, and that was Reg that got back his fighting memories. While Ozen couldn't break him using her strength on the one that couldn't fight back. Sparagmos and Gangway would probably one shot her, darts can inflict abyssal curse. Ain't no way she catching him or surviving any of those artifacts, and on top of that it's not all of the relics he has, not even close, neither did he use the strongest body (which was destroying infested flower fields at level 4). His IQ (both normal and fight) is way higher and he could kill all of the protagonists like 4 times during the movie, but did not because Prushka and Nanachi asked him not to, also plot armor because of course they can fire a detached Reg arm for some reason. Oh, and don't forget if he dies he just comes back like nothing happened even after getting drowned, cursed, smashed, split in half and everything.
@@Postik-posticovich Bondrewd beat Dark Reg forcing him to use the huge blast explosion (which Bondrewd easily escaped). Then he almost killed him, the only saving grace was Riku with his detached arm. And before that Bondrewd beat Reg in a second with a single tail stab. Bondrewd if using all of his stuff would absolutely obliterate Reg.
@@holneer lol, Dark reg 1v1 with bondrewd, reg wins, reg chose not to kill bondrewd himself, bondrewd said that reg decided not to kill bondrewd because reg was afraid to hurt riko and nanachi.
well, that's the thing, Ozen is strong but compared to the arsenal of weapons Bondrewd has, and his ability to keep changing consciousness again and again, well I doubt Ozen would want to take him on considering that he CAN defeat her, or harm her in a way she wouldn't want to be, even if in most cases he'd be defeated the chance of it being the opposite case is enough for Ozen to not interfere with him. and why isn't anyone remembering the artifacts and the crazy willpower of Bondrewd to be able to do this shit so long, he won't be falling alone if he does fall.
Ozen speed and strength can literally kill him. He'll took to much time before he can use his gadgets And ozen is not that dumb, she will literally kill of his clone first
@@Nishigora9 she doesn't have speed, just strength, she literally moves slower than any other cave dweller, if you watch clips of her you'll notice she even walks slower than other people (she's just 7 feet tall so she still loves the same distance).
@@atheonbanan1518bro did you see how she suddenly moves infront of reg without him noticing when he charged his incinerator? And that when she didn't even being serious... SPOILER WARNING latest chapter when reg fought against one of srajo crew, nishagora in awakened state, reg said that he already fought ozen and nishagora mad that reg thought lowly of ozen. This implies that nishagora couldn't win against ozen even in awakened state even though reg barely able to keep up with nishagora.
If you push them in close combat, then Ozen will unconditionally win, BUT if you push them, allowing them to use the entire arsenal, Bondrewd simply will not let her come close :)
@Hishen Mathurin Reminder that white whistle is not a warrior, they just a highest class cave raider and out of all white whistle, Bondrewd is just a scientist type of guy on the team and he's already that strong while Ozen literally look like the strongest combatant on the team
@@fyodordeathstoyevsky5119 at his weakest though bondrewd fought a stronger form and lost to plot alone and even then it was close at ozens full might reg was barely damaged bondrewd could have ended reg same way hisoka could have ended gon he choose to spare him since he wanted his body
Haven't seen Ozen's full capabilities so can't be entirely sure, if it's just pure strength then ozen but good dad will probably win if it comes to using everything you have idrc who wins so let's talk about how epic tanks are, first of all they're really cool, it can shoot, it can defend it can be your home. Now that you've heard what's very cool about tank, what do you think is better Fast but low firepower tank or slow but very hard hitting tank and more durable. If you're thinking about a balance tank we'll remove that for now. Fast tank but with the low firepower drawback you have better mobility but would struggle to fighting a tank with high defense then there's the slow but hard hitting and very durable tank which can do big chunk of damage but would struggle with terrains making it hard or even incapable on climbing hills and you are a easier target for enemies.
It is pretty close, but I think she would win, just cause of the fact, that she no diffed Reg. Reg defeated Bondrewd inside one of his combat oriented umbra hands and umbra hands in auto Bondrewd mode are kinda low IQ. The only advantages Bondrewd has over her, is that his lasers, could seriously damage her and his agility and being able to pretty much fly. We haven't got any speed or jumping feat of Ozen yet, which could be a deciding factor.
Yeah, no diffed Reg that has just woken up and was confused, while still not being able to hurt him while he's unconscious. Meanwhile Bondrewd beat the shit out of all the children after they got experience, teamed up and Reg regained his fighting memories. Also spared them all like 4 times because plot armor and also Nanachi and Prushka asked him not to hurt the others. His Gangway will heavily damage her, just burn all the skin, sparagmos is a one shot since it's the only thing as powerful as incinerator, don't forget how easily his claws and tail could pierce Reg (whom Ozen couldn't 'break' while hitting him unconscious). If they were to fight she'd be super dead.
No diffed a child that was reluctant to fight because Riko was within vicinity? and couldn't fire his incinerator out of fear of leaving her alone? While Bondrewd easily kept up with a Reg that absorbed the power of his facility. Hell, as far as we're concerned the only time we ever saw far caress being broken was with Reg's incinerator, Bondrewd could use that against her and she wouldn't be able to get out because she has no feats that tell us she could. She's literally just being simped for, she doesn't even have any other feat besides "strong". She's Ozen the Immovable, not indestructible and last time I checked she was struggling to carry a box.
@@AVGyerra22 He was definitely doing his best and Riko didn't hold him back at all, she was out of fighting range. He did fire his incinerator later on, as he saw non of his attacks even shaking her. His attacks were CONPLETELY useless. Even, when he did a super strong attack with all of his power, he only pushed away Ozen with again not even a slight scratch. She overpowered him completely in terms of strength and her durability was so high, that he can't even damage her. In terms of speed, she could completely keep up with him and had no struggles at all. Reg's durability is higher of course, but his attack power besides his incinerator is too low. You should really rewatch the series, as I can see how you forgot certain details. The charging up at Bondrewd's lab did a few things, it firstly charged up his incinerator shots, secondly a soul whose hostile towards Bondrewd took over his body and thirdly, after he regained thr control over his body, he remembered his combat knowledge. Which is why he suddenly could do the spinny moves. These just increased his agility and speed, but not his strength, meaning he still couldn't damage Ozen, yet it was enough to damage Bondrewd's suit and stuff. Her reaction speed also was impressive, as she could easily catch Reg's arms, try to catch an axe flying towards you at high speed and you'll know how impressive this feat is. We never saw her running, but hell it is very likely, that she's gonna be very fast and good at jumping and for that "she struggled carrying a box" bullshit. She was taking the 4th layer's curse while carrying a multiple tons heavy giant relics, which was bigger, than her whole body. She also once carried a gondola with more, than 30 people to the surface. You can expect each of her hits to completely crush his armor. Ozen definitely has the edge.
@@Doki_LP ok then. Bondrewd jumps 30 feet in the Air with his animal legs and blows up everything under and around him with sparagmos like he did in the sting nest, killing Ozen. Sounds fucking silly, but it's just that kind of a difference in speed and mobility + destructive power we're talking about. I doubt Ozen can be nearly as fast as he was, getting up the hole at the speed of tens or hundreds of meters a second while still clawing and blasting at the same time like it's nothing. Ok, Ozen can run fast, well, Bondrewd's Gangway can shape however he wants in her direction and since she's big and way slower than Reg in terms of pure speed he easily burns her. Then his claws or tail which easily tear Reg who like you said has better durability than her. She gets close.. Ok. She punches, he does claw attack, her arms is now completely obliterated, bleeding and useless just like Bondrewd's, but then he still can do Gangway or Sparagmos + Tail, all usable at the same time, at such range she's dead. The only thing Ozen has for herself is "muh punch strong" and being about half as durable as Reg. Meanwhile on the other hand you have a crazy bastard with tens of relics (All different mind you, not just a bunch of strength buffs like Ozen), infinite respawns and additional eyes from the controlled bodies which can spectate and monitor every move even if he loses sight himself. 1 v 1 fully prepared, Bondrewd stomps. If they fight in Ido Front he might as well just push her into the pit. She dies of starvation since she cannot get back (no cartriges to absord the curse) and if she does try to get up the lvl 6 curse turns her into regenerative jelly for painful experiments. I'd like to hear from you how can she even catch someone who can move THIS FAST, IGNORE CURSE FROM GETTING HIGH and CLIMB WALLS AT SUCH SPEEDS HE'S PRACTICALLY FLYING in order to even hit him.
@@holneer Ozen wins no diff. Her Thousand Man Pins boost her strength by 1000 times with each that she inserts, and she has 120000. The average man can run around 8 MPH, so multiply that by 120000 to get 960000 MPH. That's mach 125, while Bondrewd has been shown to reach roughly mach 1 at his peak. The average man can punch with 170 PSI at most. Multiply that by 120000 to get TWENTY MILLION PSI! That's over 130 gigapascals. A pascal is joules per cubic meter. Given this, if my math is correct, Ozen could punch with around half of the impact as the Chicxulub meteor. These mean that Ozen's speed is above reentry level, and she has country level destructive power. Yes, Sparagmos would be an issue, but do you really think Ozen wouldn't recognize it and just dodge? I will admit that if Bondrewd had the Blessing, he would probably win.
After meeting ozen, bondrewd and now srajo, I am actually more curious to know the capabilities of Lyza especially because she is known as the 'annihilator'. Same is true with Wakuna because we haven't really seen his appearance or know anything about him yet.
@@lordlopikong6940 you are right. I meant that more of as a hypothetical joke. Both ozen and the umbrahands regularly go in and out of the abyss as shown in the recent manga chapters. I do agree that Bondrewd is very hard, if not, impossible, to kill.
Bondred just wins, you need to have an entire team to kill the dude. His too tricky to best, Ozen can obviously destroy him and a majority of his combat Bodies but bondrewd is a slippery slime. For him getting out alive is enough of a win against Ozen.
We never get a clear cut answer on their ages but Ozen is at the least fifty while Bondrewd is in his 40's. That is pure speculation, the only thing we know for certain is despite how young she looks Ozen is a fair bit older than the rest of the cast.
@@Winslow19Ozen isn’t 50 years old she’s been a white whistle for 50 years, she’s probably in her 80s. She just happens to look young because of the thousand man pins which are state to extend the user’s life span
@@_-Bondrewd-_ thing is... During the movie Bondrewd was using a meet n' greet body, not a combat specific one. The first person they met was actually the strongest body Bondrewd had
Durability doesn't matter when Bondrewd have a way to one-shot her with sparagmos (which beam fire at the speed of light) Sparagmos work like Reg's incinerator, which function as follow by the Official Art book: - Step 1 : "Instantaneously emits a beam of light indicating the area to eliminate. This light is not destructive. This is something accompanied by a lighting effect." - Step 2 : "At its edges, an invisible force create a centrifugal motion that, through friction with the exterior, produce a burn-off effect and extreme thermal energy, which have secondary destructive power. Objects within the range of the light break apart and are absorbed into the spinning axis." - Step 3 : "Finally, the device emits a blast of heat." This power is so strong that it warps the Abyss' forcefield, which for reminder slow down TIME. Bondrewd also have Gangway, which is another artifacts firing lightspeed attacks. (with near unpredictably) Ozen and her 120 Thousand-Men Pins will not be able to react. Even if you give 200 ms of reaction time / 120 thousands (her artifacts doesn't work like that) That will only be 0.0000016 s. To avoid Sparagmos, assuming you are 5 meters away. You need speed and reaction time to move in less than 0.000000016 s. Ozen's reaction would ≈99.9 times too slow to see it coming.
White whistle boosted reg fought nishagora who can keep up with reg, nishagora implied that ozen is better than her, boosted reg was stated to be faster than base reg, base reg is on par with bondrewd as he was shown dodging and reacting to gangway and sparagmos. If ozen is better than nishagora who can keep up with a white whistle boosted reg, then a serious ozen should be able to keep up with bondrewd and even dodge sparagmos.
@@wevertonjose7232 He isn’t stronger, Physically speaking Ozen is quite literally thousands of times stronger than him. Could he beat her though? Yes, possibly. He has a lot of tricks up his sleeves and as long as he has his Umbra Hands, he is practically immortal. I think it would be a close match though.
Ozen wins easily, even Srajo's crew beats Bondrewd. People are saying Bondrewd is immortal but he can only transfer his consciousness. His actual artifacts need to be pick up off the corpse puddles Ozen just smashed lol. Also he's only fast with his blessing form which requires cartridges that love him and he's fresh out.
Lmao. Someone forgot that Sparagos is just a faster firing, more precise Incenerator. Ozen deff has the edge in *physical* strength, but imo sparagos makes Bon the "stronger" combatant.
Having watched many confrontations between Ozen and Bondrewd, I can say that both have deadly force, so the outcome of the battle will be a matter of chance, and depends on many environmental parameters (ggle translated)
Ozen completely eclipsed Reg's stats without showing the slightest hint of effort, her strength compared to his doesn't change just because he gained experience, she let him get clean hits on her, if she hits bondrewd's bodies he's out of commission even without any weapons Weird as fuck commentors are treating experience as if it would change the fact that Reg simply wasn't strong enough to actually fight Ozen, If that speed and reaction speed aren't her absolute max (why the fuck would it be, I don't get why everyone's behaving as if it is weird to assume Ozen not taking it seriously isn't at least faster enough than what she's shown to grab Bondrewd if he got within range and he could blitz her, seriously, it's more normal to assume her boosts that maker her inhumanely strong and allow her to move with immensely heavy weaponry without any hint of effort, do not affect her mobility rather than doing so? Sure he's versatile, sure he can fight a lot, so? For all that versatility is worth, most of it if it doesn't work on Reg, there's no way in hell it is scratching Ozen, all but the absolute best he has can't hurt her, and what can only can hurt a completely unserious and unarmed Ozen
Ozen would win the first fight against Bondrewd then there would be a second fight since Bondrewd can just transfer to another one of his clones bodies and with lots of prep time Bondrewd would have a body that would be stronger than Ozen because during the first battle Bondrewd would have been studying things like Ozen's strength and durability.
We barely know anything about ozen abilities. I doubt she relies only on her strength. Each white whistle relies on multiple relics. There is a reason why she's so old and still living
@@ac4694 Absolutely, but I do think Bondrewd's own capabilities are significant Bido and the body he used first in the movie were both armed with Sparagmos, which can counter Reg's incinerator, which destroyed an immortal completely Ozen does have over one hundred Thousand Man pins, so maybe that means she can exert the force of one hundred thousand men with a single punch? She's the strongest for a reason, but we don't know a lot about her and we know a lot about Bondrewd's weapons, and that he is somewhat immortal.
@@ac4694the reason why is she has a thousand men pins and sticks 120 all over her body and thats the power of 120k mens plus its also the secret to her longevity
You too, lets be real. Ozen literally titled Immovable with a 120K times more durable body than normal human. We didnt get to see any of her ability and she's a goddamn white whistle! So we can expect her to be as Last Boss as Bondrewd
The main trio defeated 1 Bondrew... If Ozen really tried, serious, no matter how many Bondrew are, they are all fucked everytime. I really doubt even Faputa full rage, or the biggest monsters, could do something to Ozen.
Well... powerscaling 101 states that a serious ozen scale to awakened reg from the simple fact that reg fought and got overpowered by nishagora who herself has fought ozen and implied that ozen is far worse than her. This means ozen has the speed to keep up with bondrewd as awakened reg should be faster than bondrewd, as well as the ability to dodge or at the very least aim dodge sparagmos which has a cooldown between uses. Without sparagmos ozen basically one shots bondrewd through pure strength.
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I feel like in a fair fight, ozen would win since she has strength and defense. But let's be real. It would be a fight to the death which means bondrewd would use his arsenal of weapons and all kinds of dirty tricks. Or should I say...bloody tricks
Bondrewed is like ironman
Physically he cant do much, but try to catch fades with him while hes equipped? You better have brought your own shovel because he's not gonna dig your grave out for you.
@@northernalpine4350To be fair, Iron-man has suits for people like Hulk and Thor yet still loses.
That’s the MCU not the Comic universe
You think ozen doesn‘t have dirty tricks up her sleeve😂, ozen demolishes the bum😭🙏
Bro just give bondrewd prep time, this is like batman v superman
In the actual lore bondrewd is considered to be the strongest sovereign. Literally all others are afraid of him (this is stated in the manga) and literally most of the reason why he is allowed to do all of his experiments is because no one wants to tell him no.
Ozen is strong, yes, however bondrewd quite literally isn't considered human anymore, his consciousness is described as having "become something other than human" or maybe it was better than human, can't remember the exact quote.
Point is, ozen is strong, but that's all she has. Bondrewd has better armor,better and more weapons, better tech, he can revive himself, swap bodies, he's figured out how to give himself blessings (which make you much faster and stronger than normal people, even without his tech bondrewd with the blessings would take out ozen)
On top of this, I'm sure someone's pointed this out already, but ozen couldn't break the reg that didn't even know how to fight when she was trying, bondrewd captured this reg, dismantled it before letting it go, then fought and would've won against the reg that could fight, if it wasn't for the children helping he would've won that.
Ozens strong and very durable for a human, which is why she's the unmoveable sovereign, however bondrewd has ascended past humanity, is immortal, and can even do things such as avoiding the effects of the curse.
Ozens much stronger, yes, however she would still lose faster than she can say "I thought there were one of you"
I don’t remember Bondrewd being said to be the strongest, chapter 15 even contradicts this saying even among the sovereigns Ozen is peerless in strength.
Sure Bondrewd’s mind is stated to not be human but his body still is and can easily die. You also make huge assumptions about Ozen being weak when we don’t see many of her relics and tools so you can’t state Bondrewd has better armour, weapons, or tech. For the blessing it’s not like can replicate the blessing anytime soon and again we don’t know enough about Ozen to say anything about it but.
Also what are you talking about Ozen literally bruised reg and stomped him unconscious, while Bondrewd took reg in his sleep so it’s not even comparable.
so ozen has the strength of well, at least more than maybe 5k men i think, and bondrewd has basically ascended beyond human, so do you think 5k men+ can beat an ascended human/beyond human organism
In the latest episode, we know that Bondrewd is not a particularly powerful member of the White Whistle. When slajjo visited Bondrewd's stronghold for his "last dive", he raided her to take possession of her men and artifacts, but many Umbra Hands died in the battle.
Srajo didn't look scared of him.
Lmao Bondrewd weak according to the manga when compared to other white whistles
Naaa bondrewd can just switch his conscience and attack again while she’s tired
"Tired" lmfao
she has the strength of 1k+ people
@@johnkrame1763 Actually, she has the strength of 120000 people. Assuming this boosts all of her abilities by 120000 times, that would let her punch through concrete, move at above reentry speeds, and is basically immune to everything.
Bondrewd has some nifty gadgets, but he'd get speedblitzed before he would even realize where Ozen was.
You think Ozen would get tired that easily?
This is the White Whistle, Dommy Mummy, Immovable Sovereign, OZEN the Unmovable
The same Woman, who carried the Curse repelling Vessel up FOUR LAYERS OF THE ABYSS and who’s the say she hasn’t implanted more of those wedges since
You think a fight with Bondrewd would tire her out?
God I’d let Ozen string me up naked to punish me any hour of any day
@@Linkin-2603 down bad to the bottom less dark core..
bondrewd would just be like " my my... marvellous " the whole time during the fight
Ozen fighting to death and losing:
Meanwhile Bondrewd: Subarashi! Nanto Subarashi!
Bruh, with blessing he could easily cut Reg, was stupid fast, strong and was beating the shit out of him, and that was Reg that got back his fighting memories. While Ozen couldn't break him using her strength on the one that couldn't fight back. Sparagmos and Gangway would probably one shot her, darts can inflict abyssal curse. Ain't no way she catching him or surviving any of those artifacts, and on top of that it's not all of the relics he has, not even close, neither did he use the strongest body (which was destroying infested flower fields at level 4). His IQ (both normal and fight) is way higher and he could kill all of the protagonists like 4 times during the movie, but did not because Prushka and Nanachi asked him not to, also plot armor because of course they can fire a detached Reg arm for some reason.
Oh, and don't forget if he dies he just comes back like nothing happened even after getting drowned, cursed, smashed, split in half and everything.
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lol, reg > bondrewd, bondrewd not break through his Defence, in speed they are equal only if bondrewd receives a blessing
Dark Reg > bondrew with all his strength and in the body of the strongest umbra member.
@@Postik-posticovich Bondrewd beat Dark Reg forcing him to use the huge blast explosion (which Bondrewd easily escaped). Then he almost killed him, the only saving grace was Riku with his detached arm. And before that Bondrewd beat Reg in a second with a single tail stab. Bondrewd if using all of his stuff would absolutely obliterate Reg.
@@holneer lol, Dark reg 1v1 with bondrewd, reg wins, reg chose not to kill bondrewd himself, bondrewd said that reg decided not to kill bondrewd because reg was afraid to hurt riko and nanachi.
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well, that's the thing, Ozen is strong but compared to the arsenal of weapons Bondrewd has, and his ability to keep changing consciousness again and again, well I doubt Ozen would want to take him on considering that he CAN defeat her, or harm her in a way she wouldn't want to be, even if in most cases he'd be defeated the chance of it being the opposite case is enough for Ozen to not interfere with him.
and why isn't anyone remembering the artifacts and the crazy willpower of Bondrewd to be able to do this shit so long, he won't be falling alone if he does fall.
Dude has extra lives and the Sparagmos, as much as I love Ozen, the writings on the wall
Lmao no, Ozen may be stronger, but Bondwred has a arsenal of lethal gadgets AND can just switch bodies.
Ozen speed and strength can literally kill him.
He'll took to much time before he can use his gadgets
And ozen is not that dumb, she will literally kill of his clone first
The thing is, we haven't really seen much of Ozen's abilities and equipment unlike Bondrewd. So we can't really compare them for now.
@@Nishigora9 read the manga. Shed get folded in a heartbeat.
@@Nishigora9 she doesn't have speed, just strength, she literally moves slower than any other cave dweller, if you watch clips of her you'll notice she even walks slower than other people (she's just 7 feet tall so she still loves the same distance).
@@atheonbanan1518bro did you see how she suddenly moves infront of reg without him noticing when he charged his incinerator? And that when she didn't even being serious... SPOILER WARNING latest chapter when reg fought against one of srajo crew, nishagora in awakened state, reg said that he already fought ozen and nishagora mad that reg thought lowly of ozen. This implies that nishagora couldn't win against ozen even in awakened state even though reg barely able to keep up with nishagora.
If you push them in close combat, then Ozen will unconditionally win, BUT if you push them, allowing them to use the entire arsenal, Bondrewd simply will not let her come close :)
Ozen is never push to limit and that alone is Scary 🥶💀💀💀
Are you fucking high? Zoaholic alone makes this an easy W for Bondrewd, and that’s not even taking into account his other relics
Bondrewd: gangway
Gayway
I love how all white whistles are absolutely demented yet powerful af
Honestly when it comes to
Ozen it always hard to tell if she is Holding back
Hmmm idk, we seen bondrewd fight. Ozen? We don't know. Yeah she's tall, yeah she's strong, but what does she have, that matches bondrewd?
Her relics and much more we haven't seen yet
@Hishen Mathurin Reminder that white whistle is not a warrior, they just a highest class cave raider and out of all white whistle, Bondrewd is just a scientist type of guy on the team and he's already that strong while Ozen literally look like the strongest combatant on the team
@@fyodordeathstoyevsky5119 at his weakest though bondrewd fought a stronger form and lost to plot alone and even then it was close at ozens full might reg was barely damaged bondrewd could have ended reg same way hisoka could have ended gon he choose to spare him since he wanted his body
@@thelostwanderergames4287lol. bondrewd did not spare reg. if he succumbed, how would he take his body?
@@fyodordeathstoyevsky5119 well scientists are responsible for a lot of weapons. like nukes.
Haven't seen Ozen's full capabilities so can't be entirely sure, if it's just pure strength then ozen but good dad will probably win if it comes to using everything you have idrc who wins so let's talk about how epic tanks are, first of all they're really cool, it can shoot, it can defend it can be your home. Now that you've heard what's very cool about tank, what do you think is better Fast but low firepower tank or slow but very hard hitting tank and more durable. If you're thinking about a balance tank we'll remove that for now. Fast tank but with the low firepower drawback you have better mobility but would struggle to fighting a tank with high defense then there's the slow but hard hitting and very durable tank which can do big chunk of damage but would struggle with terrains making it hard or even incapable on climbing hills and you are a easier target for enemies.
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Ultimately Bondrewd would win, he has access to more weapons/artifacts
It just woundnt be a very shounen battle of what people might expect. Just bondrewd constantly harrasing from a safe distant
It is pretty close, but I think she would win, just cause of the fact, that she no diffed Reg. Reg defeated Bondrewd inside one of his combat oriented umbra hands and umbra hands in auto Bondrewd mode are kinda low IQ. The only advantages Bondrewd has over her, is that his lasers, could seriously damage her and his agility and being able to pretty much fly. We haven't got any speed or jumping feat of Ozen yet, which could be a deciding factor.
Yeah, no diffed Reg that has just woken up and was confused, while still not being able to hurt him while he's unconscious. Meanwhile Bondrewd beat the shit out of all the children after they got experience, teamed up and Reg regained his fighting memories. Also spared them all like 4 times because plot armor and also Nanachi and Prushka asked him not to hurt the others. His Gangway will heavily damage her, just burn all the skin, sparagmos is a one shot since it's the only thing as powerful as incinerator, don't forget how easily his claws and tail could pierce Reg (whom Ozen couldn't 'break' while hitting him unconscious).
If they were to fight she'd be super dead.
No diffed a child that was reluctant to fight because Riko was within vicinity? and couldn't fire his incinerator out of fear of leaving her alone?
While Bondrewd easily kept up with a Reg that absorbed the power of his facility.
Hell, as far as we're concerned the only time we ever saw far caress being broken was with Reg's incinerator, Bondrewd could use that against her and she wouldn't be able to get out because she has no feats that tell us she could.
She's literally just being simped for, she doesn't even have any other feat besides "strong". She's Ozen the Immovable, not indestructible and last time I checked she was struggling to carry a box.
@@AVGyerra22 He was definitely doing his best and Riko didn't hold him back at all, she was out of fighting range. He did fire his incinerator later on, as he saw non of his attacks even shaking her. His attacks were CONPLETELY useless. Even, when he did a super strong attack with all of his power, he only pushed away Ozen with again not even a slight scratch. She overpowered him completely in terms of strength and her durability was so high, that he can't even damage her. In terms of speed, she could completely keep up with him and had no struggles at all. Reg's durability is higher of course, but his attack power besides his incinerator is too low. You should really rewatch the series, as I can see how you forgot certain details. The charging up at Bondrewd's lab did a few things, it firstly charged up his incinerator shots, secondly a soul whose hostile towards Bondrewd took over his body and thirdly, after he regained thr control over his body, he remembered his combat knowledge. Which is why he suddenly could do the spinny moves. These just increased his agility and speed, but not his strength, meaning he still couldn't damage Ozen, yet it was enough to damage Bondrewd's suit and stuff. Her reaction speed also was impressive, as she could easily catch Reg's arms, try to catch an axe flying towards you at high speed and you'll know how impressive this feat is. We never saw her running, but hell it is very likely, that she's gonna be very fast and good at jumping and for that "she struggled carrying a box" bullshit. She was taking the 4th layer's curse while carrying a multiple tons heavy giant relics, which was bigger, than her whole body. She also once carried a gondola with more, than 30 people to the surface. You can expect each of her hits to completely crush his armor. Ozen definitely has the edge.
@@Doki_LP ok then. Bondrewd jumps 30 feet in the Air with his animal legs and blows up everything under and around him with sparagmos like he did in the sting nest, killing Ozen. Sounds fucking silly, but it's just that kind of a difference in speed and mobility + destructive power we're talking about. I doubt Ozen can be nearly as fast as he was, getting up the hole at the speed of tens or hundreds of meters a second while still clawing and blasting at the same time like it's nothing. Ok, Ozen can run fast, well, Bondrewd's Gangway can shape however he wants in her direction and since she's big and way slower than Reg in terms of pure speed he easily burns her. Then his claws or tail which easily tear Reg who like you said has better durability than her. She gets close.. Ok. She punches, he does claw attack, her arms is now completely obliterated, bleeding and useless just like Bondrewd's, but then he still can do Gangway or Sparagmos + Tail, all usable at the same time, at such range she's dead. The only thing Ozen has for herself is "muh punch strong" and being about half as durable as Reg. Meanwhile on the other hand you have a crazy bastard with tens of relics (All different mind you, not just a bunch of strength buffs like Ozen), infinite respawns and additional eyes from the controlled bodies which can spectate and monitor every move even if he loses sight himself. 1 v 1 fully prepared, Bondrewd stomps. If they fight in Ido Front he might as well just push her into the pit. She dies of starvation since she cannot get back (no cartriges to absord the curse) and if she does try to get up the lvl 6 curse turns her into regenerative jelly for painful experiments.
I'd like to hear from you how can she even catch someone who can move THIS FAST, IGNORE CURSE FROM GETTING HIGH and CLIMB WALLS AT SUCH SPEEDS HE'S PRACTICALLY FLYING in order to even hit him.
@@holneer Ozen wins no diff.
Her Thousand Man Pins boost her strength by 1000 times with each that she inserts, and she has 120000. The average man can run around 8 MPH, so multiply that by 120000 to get 960000 MPH. That's mach 125, while Bondrewd has been shown to reach roughly mach 1 at his peak.
The average man can punch with 170 PSI at most. Multiply that by 120000 to get TWENTY MILLION PSI! That's over 130 gigapascals. A pascal is joules per cubic meter. Given this, if my math is correct, Ozen could punch with around half of the impact as the Chicxulub meteor.
These mean that Ozen's speed is above reentry level, and she has country level destructive power. Yes, Sparagmos would be an issue, but do you really think Ozen wouldn't recognize it and just dodge?
I will admit that if Bondrewd had the Blessing, he would probably win.
Bondrewd: ¡Sparagmos!
Bondrewd Human: 🤓😊
Bondrewd Blessed By Abyss:🗿💀
"go go gadget murder ozen" *pulls out the deletion beam*
After meeting ozen, bondrewd and now srajo, I am actually more curious to know the capabilities of Lyza especially because she is known as the 'annihilator'. Same is true with Wakuna because we haven't really seen his appearance or know anything about him yet.
Bruh this feel cheating bondewrd is like immortal he can use zoahalic everytime he want
Unless ozen kills all of the umbrahands
@@3dprintworld503 i didnt expect that answer lol
@@3dprintworld503impossible, Ozen needs to travel around the abyss and the world. I'm very sure there are umbra hands in the surface
@@lordlopikong6940 you are right. I meant that more of as a hypothetical joke. Both ozen and the umbrahands regularly go in and out of the abyss as shown in the recent manga chapters. I do agree that Bondrewd is very hard, if not, impossible, to kill.
im a fan of bondrewd.. but yeah its true.. ozen is the strongest one
bondrewd more likely a crazy scientist over a monster fighter
Bondred just wins, you need to have an entire team to kill the dude. His too tricky to best, Ozen can obviously destroy him and a majority of his combat Bodies but bondrewd is a slippery slime. For him getting out alive is enough of a win against Ozen.
how can you give experience to ozen considering how long bondrewd has been alive for?
We never get a clear cut answer on their ages but Ozen is at the least fifty while Bondrewd is in his 40's.
That is pure speculation, the only thing we know for certain is despite how young she looks Ozen is a fair bit older than the rest of the cast.
@@Winslow19Ozen isn’t 50 years old she’s been a white whistle for 50 years, she’s probably in her 80s. She just happens to look young because of the thousand man pins which are state to extend the user’s life span
@@nwblader6231 I actually never knew she had been a delver for fifty years, good to know.
Edit: Already knew about why she looks so youthful though
If Bondrewd can't use his praised hands , Ozen kill him too quickly
In your dream
@@papiyaghosh6667 Bro , Bondrewd is my Favourite one here , but Ozen is too strong and fast for him
@@_-Bondrewd-_ thing is...
During the movie Bondrewd was using a meet n' greet body, not a combat specific one.
The first person they met was actually the strongest body Bondrewd had
After reading volume 12, i totally agree
Durability doesn't matter when Bondrewd have a way to one-shot her with sparagmos (which beam fire at the speed of light)
Sparagmos work like Reg's incinerator, which function as follow by the Official Art book:
- Step 1 : "Instantaneously emits a beam of light indicating the area to eliminate. This light is not destructive. This is something accompanied by a lighting effect."
- Step 2 : "At its edges, an invisible force create a centrifugal motion that, through friction with the exterior, produce a burn-off effect and extreme thermal energy, which have secondary destructive power. Objects within the range of the light break apart and are absorbed into the spinning axis."
- Step 3 : "Finally, the device emits a blast of heat."
This power is so strong that it warps the Abyss' forcefield, which for reminder slow down TIME.
Bondrewd also have Gangway, which is another artifacts firing lightspeed attacks. (with near unpredictably)
Ozen and her 120 Thousand-Men Pins will not be able to react.
Even if you give 200 ms of reaction time / 120 thousands (her artifacts doesn't work like that)
That will only be 0.0000016 s.
To avoid Sparagmos, assuming you are 5 meters away.
You need speed and reaction time to move in less than 0.000000016 s.
Ozen's reaction would ≈99.9 times too slow to see it coming.
White whistle boosted reg fought nishagora who can keep up with reg, nishagora implied that ozen is better than her, boosted reg was stated to be faster than base reg, base reg is on par with bondrewd as he was shown dodging and reacting to gangway and sparagmos. If ozen is better than nishagora who can keep up with a white whistle boosted reg, then a serious ozen should be able to keep up with bondrewd and even dodge sparagmos.
I feel like white whistle's strength ranking are analogue to the layer they are in, so Ozen is far behind Bondrewd and Bondrewd is behind Srajo
are you drugged son? Bondrewd is much stronger
No
you are sick, you know nothing, bondrewd is more powerful, until ozen knows this, she herself says in the series, that she wouldn't want to face him
@@wevertonjose7232 He isn’t stronger, Physically speaking Ozen is quite literally thousands of times stronger than him. Could he beat her though? Yes, possibly. He has a lot of tricks up his sleeves and as long as he has his Umbra Hands, he is practically immortal. I think it would be a close match though.
@@goomba8170like a tie
Does it really matter lyza would turn both of them into red paste before they can even plan
Ozen wins easily, even Srajo's crew beats Bondrewd. People are saying Bondrewd is immortal but he can only transfer his consciousness. His actual artifacts need to be pick up off the corpse puddles Ozen just smashed lol. Also he's only fast with his blessing form which requires cartridges that love him and he's fresh out.
1 word, sparagmos. and he wins
Bonedrewed low diffs lmao.
This is practically Batman vs Superman. Superman/Ozen has strength and durability while Batman/Bondrewd has gadgets and intelligence.
Lmao. Someone forgot that Sparagos is just a faster firing, more precise Incenerator. Ozen deff has the edge in *physical* strength, but imo sparagos makes Bon the "stronger" combatant.
Having watched many confrontations between Ozen and Bondrewd, I can say that both have deadly force, so the outcome of the battle will be a matter of chance, and depends on many environmental parameters (ggle translated)
Hmmm.
Maybe
MAYBE but high-extreme diff.
Cuz Ozen really has more Def,ap,and strenght
Bondrewd ; **sparagmos 360 no scope shot**
Ozen completely eclipsed Reg's stats without showing the slightest hint of effort, her strength compared to his doesn't change just because he gained experience, she let him get clean hits on her, if she hits bondrewd's bodies he's out of commission even without any weapons
Weird as fuck commentors are treating experience as if it would change the fact that Reg simply wasn't strong enough to actually fight Ozen, If that speed and reaction speed aren't her absolute max (why the fuck would it be, I don't get why everyone's behaving as if it is weird to assume Ozen not taking it seriously isn't at least faster enough than what she's shown to grab Bondrewd if he got within range and he could blitz her, seriously, it's more normal to assume her boosts that maker her inhumanely strong and allow her to move with immensely heavy weaponry without any hint of effort, do not affect her mobility rather than doing so?
Sure he's versatile, sure he can fight a lot, so? For all that versatility is worth, most of it if it doesn't work on Reg, there's no way in hell it is scratching Ozen, all but the absolute best he has can't hurt her, and what can only can hurt a completely unserious and unarmed Ozen
What the music name plz
Nope Bondrewd EZ win
SPARAGMOS! Bye Ozen
Ozen: *casually dodges*
Bondrew is older than her💀 and is a more experienced fighter just simply off the fact he lives in the 5/6th layer
Based
Gangway
1v1 depends on conditions and conditions only.
Wish i became made in abyss fan sooner but hey i guess its better late than never right
Ozen would win the first fight against Bondrewd then there would be a second fight since Bondrewd can just transfer to another one of his clones bodies and with lots of prep time Bondrewd would have a body that would be stronger than Ozen because during the first battle Bondrewd would have been studying things like Ozen's strength and durability.
Ozen can probably kill Bondrewd a few times before the sheer power of his relics actually wear down Ozen enough for her to be defeated
We barely know anything about ozen abilities. I doubt she relies only on her strength. Each white whistle relies on multiple relics. There is a reason why she's so old and still living
@@ac4694 Absolutely, but I do think Bondrewd's own capabilities are significant
Bido and the body he used first in the movie were both armed with Sparagmos, which can counter Reg's incinerator, which destroyed an immortal completely
Ozen does have over one hundred Thousand Man pins, so maybe that means she can exert the force of one hundred thousand men with a single punch?
She's the strongest for a reason, but we don't know a lot about her and we know a lot about Bondrewd's weapons, and that he is somewhat immortal.
@@ac4694the reason why is she has a thousand men pins and sticks 120 all over her body and thats the power of 120k mens plus its also the secret to her longevity
@@leiraollibo3726 oh, you know its also her longevity secret? Could you provide some source of that information?
explanations needed.
Fact
Even ozen is scared of him.
Bro is shooting aoe faster laser beam...HOW U CAN EVEN think you wouldnt get damaged, lets be Real guys
You too, lets be real. Ozen literally titled Immovable with a 120K times more durable body than normal human. We didnt get to see any of her ability and she's a goddamn white whistle!
So we can expect her to be as Last Boss as Bondrewd
There is a reason why Ozen warned them about Bondrewd, even she "fears" him
bro made a joke but i didn't laughed
Srajo con la percepción de la realidad alterada:
Bro Bondrewd is basicly imortal, she wouldn’t have a chance💀
Bondrewd gana por tener más recursos y armamento
Sparagmos make: Wwwwshhh
The main trio defeated 1 Bondrew...
If Ozen really tried, serious, no matter how many Bondrew are, they are all fucked everytime. I really doubt even Faputa full rage, or the biggest monsters, could do something to Ozen.
The horse hollow or belaf?
One laser hits her and she's gone. She has no feats beyond being absurdly strong. Bondrewd would never attempt to fight her in close range anyway
Aun tengo duda
Lol. Objectively incorrect. Bondrewd destroys ozen from what weve seen so far.
Holy shit never cook again
bros lying
Wazukyan victims
Entire comment section is just dunking on this shit take and shit metrics to measure whod win in a fight. Bindrewd would mop the floor with Ozen.
Well... powerscaling 101 states that a serious ozen scale to awakened reg from the simple fact that reg fought and got overpowered by nishagora who herself has fought ozen and implied that ozen is far worse than her. This means ozen has the speed to keep up with bondrewd as awakened reg should be faster than bondrewd, as well as the ability to dodge or at the very least aim dodge sparagmos which has a cooldown between uses. Without sparagmos ozen basically one shots bondrewd through pure strength.
Ozen wins this with no difficulty if she's serious unless bondrewd plans to sacrifice the entire Ido Front
I can see that happening
Intelligence lol
song?
Slowed version of keraunos
should've count artifact tho
Creo que Ozen gana pero por poco
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