The biggest difference in my opinion is that with hybrid you can drive in any terrain. With Road you have to think before driving on gravel/dirt/sand because all road bikes cant handle that.
@@anata5127 No I just ride fast, so I prefer a cyclo in some terrain rather than a gravel. But its your choice my dear, gravel is an awesome bike too, especially on touring.😉
Great video had a road bike and now on a hybrid. Road bike is faster but the comfort for me is better on a hybrid but I'm not a endurance rider just ride about locally with a big comfy gel seat
Converted my hybrid to drops, and exchanged the drivetrain. It's heavy, but comfortable. On a whim I can add very large tires and hit the gravel roads.
In the end of 2017 I wanted to get new bike. Started with cross type bikes, but quickly realized that i don`t need front suspension and wide tires when I live in big town and mostly ride on asphalt anyway. Ended up with fitness/hybrid bike (Giant Fastroad SLR1) and now why: - wanted to have hydraulic disc brakes - wanted to have easier to accelerate bike than any other "regular" one. - didn`t want to have road bike bar and frame geometry - wanted to have solid, but still light as possible frame (I`m around 100 kg`s) - wanted to have possiblity to change grip on the bar (horns) and they are really do the job. So for me, there was not much options to choose, but I`m happy with my choice. Comfortable speed for me on flat road is 25 - 30 kph without pushing. Realistic weight of Fastroad SLR1 on L alu frame (I`m 183 cm tall) + saddle bag with reserve tube and some tools + inflate micro pump + front/rear light is bit over 11 kg`s 2017 spec bike costed in euros about 860.
I use a hybrid for fitness, running errands, and every day riding. Hybrids are indeed great bikes and I love my hobby. I ride 50-70 miles a week in comfort. I love paved trails and sidewalks and I don't prefer speeds or riding with heavy traffic. I ride the emergency lane, which in Georgia is our bike lane. Hybrids are a great bike and the comfort is amazing! My husband can easily go 25 plus miles an hour on his hybrid. He is an experienced rider and previously was on bike patrol for several years. He's certified for riding etc.
At those speeds body position is more important than anything else, a road bike will generally place the rider more forward and down thus significantly increasing efficiency primarily in terms of aerodynamic drag. Also this position increases pedaling efficiency, but to a lesser extent overall. If you were to repeat this this test on a recumbent your speeds would be even higher, even more so taken all the way to the extreme with a full fairing on a recumbent. This is why racers draft each other, the difference is is MASSIVE and increases exponentially with velocity. The trade off is from a practicality perspective, a more upright bike, such as a hybrid or mountain bike offers a more controllable geometry over technical terrain. The rider is much more mobile around the bike moving for and aft which is very useful on loose surfaces as opposed to a road bike where the rider is pretty well locked into a forward position. Comfort is a subjective thing, in cases where the rider is generating a good amount of power most of their weight is on the pedals and not on their hands even in a forward position. For fit riders with strong legs and core muscles a road bike is very comfortable, for those who are on the path there a more upright bike will distribute their weight more to the saddle. Weight differences matter whenever you are changing velocity or climbing, but a 10mph headwind will slow anyone down more than an extra 10 pounds.
All4Grogg brilliant summary of the differing positions. Tell you what, I would love to give a recumbent a try. I have seen a few on RUclips and they absolutely fly along :)
I've owned a garneau urbania sp 4 hybrid for about a year and a half and commute about 10 clicks each way on it daily. for me the hybrid works perfectly, it's more rugged than a roadbike fer sure and more versatile, especially for leisure rides that may find me wanting to venture into park trails or onto gravel or a bit of dirt where a roadbike just wouldn't be practical. A hybrid will be a little heavier and a little slower, but ya can take it almost everywhere in urban areas with confidence.
Road bikes are designed for speed the hybrid ( of which I have had for many years😊) is designed for more comfort but, can be quite fast to a point. Unlike the MTB's USUALLY! more heavy & slower. ( but, that's another story). It just comes down to which bike a person prefers to for their bycicle.
I went from a Sirrus to a Domane (equivalent to a Defy rather than Propel) so the geometry and lack of aero frame meant it wasn't as large of a jump. But I can definitely see about a 1-2mph spike around the time when I upgraded. Part of that could've been continuing to drop weight, part could've been pushing harder because I had a fancy new toy. But it honestly just felt faster. Ultregra 6800 groupset vs a 10 year old smattering of Shimano components (looks to have been Sora but had a couple of older 105 upgrades at some point) shifted better so I probably used more efficient gears. Even the relaxed geometry of the Domane is more aggressive than the Sirrus. And I did get in the drops or at least bend my elbows on the hoods more. There were 2 changes I noticed. I could sprint faster. Getting into the drops was way faster than holding bar ends and bending my elbows. Sure we are talking a 20-60s all out effort and only about 2-4mph. But it was noticeable. The other thing I could feel was that what felt like a tiring pace was less tiring. Last spring when I upgraded I usually was about 12-14mph on my Sirrus. That was the pace I could ride about 2-3 hours before being too tired (or at that time saddle sore since I was still working on acclimating to increased saddle time). I could ride about 14-15mph for about 30-60 minutes. Any longer than that and I needed to slow down. On the Domane the first thing I noticed was 14-15 felt easier. Part of again was probably using better gears (learning more about cycling, getting used to a higher cadence, etc). But part was probably it just required a few less watts. Enough that what used to tire me out in an hour took 2-3 hours. We're probably talking 5-10% less power at most here. That is about all if takes to be the difference from a 20 minute threshold to a 1 hour high tempo ride. A Propel is more aggressive and has aero tubing. It probably saves a bit more wattage so the fact that your numbers jumped up that much probably shouldn't be that surprising. Still my favorite thing is if I have to ride a headwind, I can get in the drops or get low on the hoods. Even the lowest posture I could hold on my hybrid I felt every bit of the wind when it was blowing in my face. I still don't like a stiff headwind (though being a heavy cyclist I'll take wind over hills) but at least I have a way to battle it and minimize the damage. On the Sirrus? Only option was to slow down.
Thank you for the comment. I appreciate the detail. That is exactly what I have found. It is far far easier to hold a slightly higher pace over much longer periods which in short videos like this don't show up much but which massively adds up over time. The drop bars are a huge improvement too. In fact, I was surprised just how much of a difference they make. I have had the propel for a while now and I'm currently making a review of it. I'm going to say much the same thing as you have said here. One of the biggest differences is distance riding. I just did a 68 mile ride (the longest I have done) and it glided the whole way. I was far far less tired on that compared to the hybrid I have.
Hey, I have a Sirrus also with hydraulic disc and aiming to get a Domane or Cannondale Synapse. Did you go for an aluminum or carbon Domane? Disc or caliper breaks. The Domane with disc breaks looks nice but I want to get 28s and the bike comes with 32s. What's your take ? n which one do you have?
Your response is as impressive as the video. Well, I am planning to buy a bike. The tie is between - should I buy a Giant Cross City(hybrid) or Giant Defy(Road bike)? Its been nearly 10 years since I a rode a bike. Currently, the only form of physical fitness is jogs and runs. But I want to cut down on runs which are hurting my knees already and shift towards biking - hoping its less stressful on my knees. Though my initial plan is to begin biking sooner or later attain the ability to bike long distances. Could someone help me in this decision making?
Appreciate your response. I have a Sirrus Sport from 2019 and am thinking of adding my first road bike. My speed is similar and have been trying to figure out if there will be much increase of speed or endurance. Mostly I just want a ride a drop bar road bike. Looking at Allez.
Really useful video. I'm just getting into cycling, and recently done the London to Brighton as my first ride of any distance using a hybrid as I was told this was the way to go. I was with a guy who is twice as heavy and not as fit as me, the only difference being he was on a road bike. Keeping up on the flat was fine, although I had to work a bit harder than him. On the hills it was a totally different story I had to work extremely hard to keep up which meant I eventually had to ask him to lower the pace. Long story short, if you want speed above all else, I'd go for a road bike. Something I'm now doing!
This is exactly my experience too. For speed and efficient cycling go for a road bike. Distance riding is the same. Because the bike is lighter, more efficient and faster it makes distance riding easier in my view. By the way, that sounds like a great first distance ride. I have seen some videos on RUclips of it :)
You're going to regret getting a road bike. You're boys will hurt, your butt will hurt, your hands will go numb from leaning on them all the time and your lower back will ache. You can only stay in the drops so long. I have a road bike because I love the speed. I finally converted it into a more upright riding position. I only lost an average 1 to 2 mph. (BIG WHOOP) It was worth the me for the comfort. I don't do races but I still keep up and pass the roadies
Nice one, I hope you enjoy the road bike. I found exactly the same as you did. Ignore the comment below. On top of being faster and more efficient, I found my road bike to be far more comfortable than my hybrid :)
I disagree, I was bicycling on bike that was too big for me and my sitting position was the same as I would sit on a road bike, I can't imagine how uncomfortable it would be to sit with a straight back
I have done this road last week on road bike, but that is quite hilly, dont worry so much if the hybrid was not useful in ascend your shape is trash, but anyway if you want join my ride, let me know, maibe even mine shape is bad :)
I'm only twelve years old and this helped me decide to get a hybrid. it's not because it's faster but it looks like they have lots of control. I got the the Carrera Abyss Hybrid instead of the Boardman Road bike.
Im 13yrs of old, but i decided to get a roadie for speed, lightness and btw after riding my roadie for weeks i noticed that my legs got that handsome looking muscles now.
I ride road bikes for 10 years now and you know there is nothing to compare with. If you want speed and lightness, road bikes are the best. Nice to see you're using Strava too! ;)
Yep, when I first made this video I didn't fully appreciate this fact. This video doesn't demonstrate it very well. Maybe I should redo it with a better test. You are right though, the speed you get from a roadie is much greater than that on a hybrid :)
Davy Scales absolutley. Sometimes I like to hammer it down the road. Other times I like to chill along secluded cycle paths. Like you say, it is all about the enjoyment :)
The breakdown for people new to cycling: -hybrid: for if you want to commute, don't care about speed, the hobby of 'real' cycling (sorry but it's true) and those with worries about control or comfort on a full on road bike. -road bike: for those who want more speed, plan to do more physical training by bike (for fitness, to compete etc. Rather than just to pop to the shops), want to work their cycling skills more (I first found roadies much different) and those who are more flexible :') I'll be happy to share advice and experience myself, all views are my own and for reference I have been riding road bikes approximately a year, I compete at amateur level with my local cycling club on chaingangs, club rides and tt's. Currently riding a 2015 CAAD8 Shimano 105 as my main bike
Rofl how about people riding trails not all of us wan't to ride on boring flat roads. and no one gives a shit about your pointers becouse you clearly are an idiot
+Sean Nurminen +Sean Nurminen if you want to ride trails, ride trails, I support all riders because I'm not a jackass. You however are on a video about road vs hybrid bikes, on which I left a comment with tips about said bikes. And you're asking about MTB/CX which is completely different. I'm not a jackass, because I'm above coming to a comment section and being pissy about nothing, especially when I'm trying to help people new to cycling.
Hybrid: rough or dirt roads, heavy loads, inclement weather. Road: Faster ride, good if you're not carrying much. Either is just as good for commute depending on how much you carry and the type of road and weather.
Hi. I'm looking at getting a bike for the 13 mile ride (each way) on a cycle route to uni...about 3 days a week. I want to keep my cube mtb for trails etc so which would you recommend for me? Road or hybrid...or perhaps cx? I just want to get there the easiest way possible :)
Gravel bike - not been mentioned in the comments yet but basically it's a less aggressive road bike, capable of off road with some road styling, in-between a hybrid and road bike and next step to road without being a full on race machine. Has bigger tyres for trials, flared bares for stability, still light and more upright than road, more forward pressure than hybrid etc. Eg: Raleigh Mustang, Felt VR50, Giant Revolt etc choices are broadening in this field. I'm currently on a Kona Dew Hybrid, love it but need the next step. Tried a road bike, sold it within a week, too aggressive for me so was introduced to a gravel bike, researching currently.
What are the different tyres between the bikes? Tires with a tread pattern eat energy. Smooth tires glide. When I changed from the stock tires on my Trek hybrid to Shwalbe marathon plus I got 3-4 KPH - ON THE SAME BIKE. The same thing happened on my cycle-cross bike.
I have marathon plus on the hybrid and stock giant tyres on the road bike. The hybrid has small treads and the road bike has slicks. The problem with this video is the segments are so short it doesn't come close to reflecting the real difference between the bikes :)
Most comprehensive information out there which removes the guess work. Looking at how much this topic is debated I'm surprised yours is the only video out there with a direct comparison. Also I ride my road bike (cannondale caad8) on absolutely shattered roads in India everyday for commute. All you really need is a good eye to avoid the big potholes and puncture resistant tires(gatorskins). I literally smoke every bike here, even on bad roads. I like hybrids and had initially bought one (Scott sportster 40) but looking at the surprising off- road capability of 25c tires and the increase in speeds, I will take the road bike everyday of the week. It is also more comfortable. I sold my hybrid (at a loss) in no time. For my purposes the road bike does everything the hybrid did, but faster. I still think hybrids are nice but once you get used to a road bike (there is a learning curve if you are not used to this style I wont deny), they are faster , more comfy and can carry loads too. In addition you can join fast group rides for fitness.
abhishek nayak this sums it up perfectly. In fact, I would have sold my hybrid too if not for the fact the the ground gets icy here in winter and I can't put bigger tyres on my road bike. You are absolutely right about the learning curve too. The biggest learning curve I had was the gearing. It is a lot harder than the hybrid I have but a bit of muscle adaptation and it was fine. Flying, as you rightly say :) thanks for the comment man, nice to know someone shares my view on it.
You're welcome! I knew my road bike mostly felt faster but your video confirmed this. I hadn't had strava when I was on the hybrid so did not have anything to compare to. Keep up the great work! :)
I know this is a 2-year old comment, but I had to say this: Average speeds should be compared in the environment in which they will matter. It's irrelevant whether speed comparisons in the city "faithfully represent the relative potential of the bikes" because hypothetical quality is meaningless in the face of actual results. Fair comparisons in the city may be distorted to some extent by uneven traffic light waits and such, but that is only true for very small sample sizes. When you commute every day, you get a sense of which is better overall. And in any event, the average speeds in this video didn't include waits for traffic lights. So any distortions were minimal at worst.
Good video! what gearing did each bike have? it's also good to ride a different bike each day, each has there place, Hybrids def better for riding through town, more upright position gives better visibility to vehicles seeing you and gives the rider better view of whats going on with pedestrians and vehicles. In my opinion only! but what I have found over the years.
I would have liked to hear some subjective thoughts on quality of life while riding one bike versus the other. Interesting comparison, the number are to be expected, but I want to know what the experience is like overall and whats different in the experience when doing a longer run on both bikes. Thanks for sharing your experiment none the less!
Great video..would you recommend installing a bar end on a hybrid bike ? Something that would offer a different hand position for longer rides. I have a giant escape 3 and I absolutely love it but I am looking for ways to make rides over 50km more comfortable on my hands/arms.
Hello, thanks for the comment. I would say it is worth it. I even resorted to installing TT bars on my hybrid for alternative positions. I honestly think that being able to alter position adds to the comfort of longer riders :) Ps I was going to get an escape 3 as my first bike but when I went to the shop they had sold out so I bought a revolution.
Thanks for doing an updated demo between a road bike and a hybrid. I, myself have a steel road bike (28c tire width (but has straight bars on it), and a hybrid (carbon 29er MTB frame which I developed into a hybrid). 40c tire width carbon bike. They might be the same nearing weight between the two, but I rode my hybrid on a straight way not too long ago and it went pretty fast (as I also had the wind behind my back). They both go quick too as you have demonstrated with yours. Cheers!
+Tracey McNeel No problem at all, I hope it was useful. Yes it is impressive how fast you can get on hybrids/mtb's. I think the that road bikes only really come into their own when you are going at top speed. That said I have seen plenty a mountain biker beating a roadie, myself included in that sometimes lol.
I switched from Road to Hybrid and never looked back. Have the same amount of speed on the hybrid as I did with a roadie without the pain in the neck, numbness of the hands and pubic bone soreness of a road bike. (yes I had my road bike properly fitted)
Iv tried both road and hybrid. Not a fan of road bike (genesis aether 30) even if its a bit faster and lighter, i feel like the tyres could pop from any bump i go over, not much control and it hurts like hell. My hybrid (Crossfire 3) is more forgiving and can be just as fast while having more control and take it over bumps without feeling like its about to break. Also used to rock a muddyfox flare MTB but that was too heavy amd cheeply made so didnt last long.
I was trying to decide between a road bike, hybrid, and mountain bike. I think I'll probably get a hybrid because the road bikes look uncomfortable. I used to have a Vertical PK7 mountain bike when I was a kid and that bike was heavy but I loved it lol.
AGreedyTree I used to think road bikes would be uncomfortable but I much provide my roadie over my hybrid. I’m tired of riding on the roads now, it is getting too dangerous around here. I would probably recommend a hybrid (or cyclocross) bike so that it is more useable off road. So I think you would be good with a hybrid :)
Did you consider other bikes other than the Giant propel. Im looking at the TCR advanced or supersix. The propel looks interesting but im not sure if going aero would make a significant difference.
I already have a hybrid and was planning on getting an "adventure" bike with drop handlebars but decided to purchase a roadie because i can use the hybrid on rough terrain if I choose to go off-road. Would you recommend the Specialized Allez e5 sport as a beginner road bike? thanks.
I often cycle an 8 mile route there and back at only about 11.5 mph on my very heavy hybrid type bike with mudguards and rear rack with panniers. I recently did the same trip via a slightly longer route at an average speed of 18 mph on my carbon fibre racing bike. I reckon my carbon fibre bike is only about 1 mph faster than my old steel Holdsworth racing bike though.
Maybe the 1 mph is an accurate figure. It is hard to get a good judge on it. I reckon most of the performance improvement comes at the high end performance :)
A pro cyclist would beat an average cyclist if he were on Brompton. And the average cyclist on a pro carbon road bike. It's been proven. The point is work on getting your fitness to It'd highest level. EAT PROPERLY. And make sure your seat is the right height for you. To this day most cyclists have this WRONG. My average speed went up nearly 2 miles and hour faster. By just raising my saddle 1.5 inches. For a long time I had been riding with it too low. Same with tyre pressure and the RIGHT TYRES. My average speed increased by 3 miles an hour. Getting my tyre pressure optimal. And changing my tyres to slicks. Filling them with slime to seal punctures.
I'm using a hybrid bike has shocks on fork and disc brakes because road bikes are too weak for roads of place where i live. In the city i live, roads has a lot of potholes, bumps, some of potholes patched badly. Also some loopholes are positioned parallel to the road, you can stuck thin road wheels to them.
What bikes were used? Because I think the answer is simply that hybrid bikes are generally heavier than road bikes. The tires are thicker and heavier for hybrids too to give more comfort.
In part yes but also the gear ratio is different and the aerodynamics on road bikes are designed for speed. The bikes were a giant propel advanced 2 and a revolution courier hydro disk.
The fuji traverse 1.1 hybrid bike would have been able to sprint to 38mph. One thing you didn’t talk about in the video was the gearing of both bikes. A 48T chainring and 11T cog does the 38mph. What do both your bikes have for the fastest gear???
I prefer drop-bars when riding on paved roads. They allow for a more aerodynamic riding position, as well as better body leverage when climbing hills. There's a reason why almost all race bikes - touring, and track - have drop bars.
Jonathan Keith same here. The other thing that is good about drop bars is simply that you can move your hands around a lot more. It makes longer rides so much more comfortable.
Exactly! Keeping your hands in the same position for a long time can be quite uncomfortable. It's probably better for your lungs as well, being able to stretch out your arms more.
Tevo41 yeah for me bar ends are very comfortable but I been using my fitness bike for a long time and DIEING to know if having drop bars would be better than my bar ends with a slammed stem
I'm looking to get this bike. I was wondering is there a way you could upload a video of the sound? Also a video of you at your top speed see what you can get on this lovely bike?
+Gone Cycling awesome, thanks, yes I mean the sound when free wheeling. Yes sounds strange but I'm just interested. Hard to tell when you are riding. Not sure how you could do it but I'll leave that to you mate aha
+TallentedTrickterzz Tv Ok I understand. I will try to produce a video this week and see how it comes out :) It is pretty quiet though. It isn't one of them clicking ones.
Thank you :) the one thing I didn't factor into this is fatigue. My hybrid is nearly twice the weight of my road bike and far less aero so over time the speed difference probably gets much greater :)
My Average Speed on my MTB is 25 km/h My MTB mounted with 2.2 Maxxis Crossmark,800mm Handlebar,Short Stem. And i want to change the geometry of it to add some more aerodynamics. Is it okay to mount my MTB with slicks tires,TT Handlebarwith Aerobar and Rigid Fork??
Speed is not everything. Comfort , practicality and durability are also important considerations A good Urban or Hybrid bike can be a tough, low maintenance, relatively fast bike that can do lot of mileage and provide years of dependable use with little stress on the back.
Jesse Heath no argument from me. This video was a comparison between the two bikes I have. What people want from cycling really dictates the type of bike people will want. If speed isn't your thing then that's cool so long as people enjoy it :) Interestingly, my road bike is much more comfy than my hybrid. Even across bumpy surfaces and even across longer distances.
Thank you for response Though the cycle of preference for me will always be a Hybrid due to riding posture , mountain bike gearing and wider tyres ,as stated by your comment above everybody's needs are different as such its necessary to be comfortable with choice of bike made. . A good bike fit and adequate time on the bike are personally important issues Have a great day. Oh yeah "Ride ON" .
They would both have to be using the same gearing and tyres to make it a good comparison. I once hit 43mph on a flat, smooth road on my old felt hybrid. The funny thing was that it was a 40mph zone and I was passing the cars veeery slowy. Was a great day though, with zero wind.
Curious, what size tires did the two bikes have. I'm guessing the road bike had narrower tires, less road resistance. Also, are the two bikes similar in weight. Thx
I have a £200 carrera hybrid ltd edition and a £2000 trek road bike. honuestly i prefer my carera, the trek is incredible for long journeys and is faster and lighter, but the carrera is an all rounder and i can take it anywhere, it is very fast as well and feels more stable.
yeah they are really good for the price, love my hybrid and i really want to sell my trek for 2000 and buy a carrera vanquish road bike for 260 but im not sure lol :D
+3432 eriador I have the crossfire 1 , the older version with the black spokes and smaller writing I believe. Best bike yet , and love passing the road bikes !
I'm thinking it's a matter of your cassette and how big your engine is I've dropped road bikes on a hybrid and on the same have been dropped by road bikes and it's always been the set up or who got the biggest engine .
Yes, usually people tend to buy a mountain bike and use it for riding on pavements or roads, when in reality a hybrid does this job much easier for you. So definatly, yes.
I'm trying to get t back into riding a bike but am so torn as to what to get....I live in Los Angeles, and the streets can be unforgiving, would you shed some light on any suggestions for a bike?
what do u recomend for me ( i have to ride 20 KM per day to my college and i have a hybird one do you recomend to me to buy a road bike better ??!!?? ) will the road bike will be more comfortabel for this distance and thank you for the informative vidoe :D
I have been using an old fashion road bike for 2 years. I didn't use a hybrid bike but in my opinion, you should change to the RB if you are able to. it defenitly more aero dynamic and efficient so it can save you a lot of energy for your long ride. :)
Thanks for the Video I looked At The Trek DS1 but thinking about a Road Bike as well I hit trails about twice a month but I want the Road Bike speed... Any Advise?
saquib ahmed it really depends on your fitness and riding style. The road bike is faster for going uphill but because the the gear ratio is different it is also harder. Personally, I would recommend the road bike as it means that you are less likely to hit the max performance of the bike as you get fitter. It is entirely up to you though. It really depends upon how you like to cycle :)
what would be better for fitness? trying to loose weight!! I currently own a MTB and want to get a road bike. been looking at the Giant Escape 1 Disc. any input would be appreciated
Taytoni I have never ridden a giant escape but I hear they are very good bikes. It was on my list of first bikes but the shop I went to never had one in stock. When I first bought a bike I went for a flat bar hybrid (like the escape) because I thought the road bike position would be too uncomfortable. I almost instantly regretted it and wished I got the road bike up front. As for which is better for fitness? In the short term I don't think it matters too much BUT there a couple of points which I think make a difference in the long run. 1. The gear range on the bike. I found that the hybrid didn't have enough gearing to keep up with my fitness once I was up to speed. It meant I would max my gears out. The road bike I have has a harder gear range. So check the gear ratio on the escape compared to road bikes. 2. The terrain you are riding on will have a big impact. The roadbike I have is much faster for the same effort but, because it is missing the smaller front cog of my hybrid it is harder to get up steeper hills. 3. The weight of the bike is important when you are pushing hard when training. The heavier bikes add a little extra stress to the joints. Some might say that training with a heavier bike makes you fitter but I'm not sure that that is true. All I know is that the lighter bike makes it more fun and therefore more effective. 4. The road bike is more aero and so you can go faster. It makes training more fun so for that reason (plus the weight and gear thing) I would buy a full road bike but you will find many different opinions on this. The key points are to get a bike that fits you well, that you enjoy riding and which is at least slightly future proof :)
Haha, I felt very difficult to pick. Plan to go for either Road or Hybrid. Road bike that I am looking forward is 350 pounds Boardman road sport 10.5 kg. And alternatively Boardman hybrid about 11.5 kg which is also about the same price 350 - 450 pounds. I tried my friend Carrera Road bike, I just noticed one issue is that it is very hard to look at the side as the body position is a bit bent(Aero) when using road bike and in particularly to corner and look at the incoming objects/obstacles. Maybe I am not used to it. I haven't ride for quite a few years! I will need one to commute to work and perhaps some leisure and groceries trip! And I don't own a road bike! This video is certainly helpful. I am wondering if Road bike comfy for camping-kinda-tour or long distance? (eg 50 - 100 miles). Student at Nottinghamshire.
Hello and thanks for the comment. It takes a bit of time to get used to the road bike position compared to the more relaxed hybrid position but you do definitely get used to it. I bought my hybrid to commute on and within a few months I was wishing I had a road bike. Don't get me wrong they are both good bikes but personally I prefer my roadie. I have found the road bike to be more comfortable over distance than my hybrid. I think it is because the hybrid is so much heavier and therefore takes more effort to ride plus you are limited in hand positions. But given that those two bikes weigh similar amounts I'm not sure how that would affect ride comfort over that distance :)
Mate tell me about comfort which one is comfortable because comfort is first priority in any bicycle... I got road bike and thought it will be very comfortable but unfortunately it wasnt i don't know how i seleted it but now i want to buy a hybrid please kindly tell me hybrid is good for long distance or have comfort... I m so worry about my road bike as i aspected it wasnt I m bad luck 😢😢😓😓
Hi, i doubt very between a hybrid bike and a road bike. The speed is not the point but can you tell me which bike rides more pleasant? I've hired a road bike and it drove very nice and easy but i had the feeling that the distance from my arms to the brake levers was to far. But the straight handlebars from the hybrid bike looks like its gonna hurt after a few hours because you have to hold your arms straight all the time.
+Marleen Kuijpers Hello :) At first I found the road bike position very uncomfortable. It was really aggressive and I actually had a little bit of pain in my elbow but having gotten it correctly set up I find that the road bike is the most comfy ride of the two bikes. It is the ability to change your hand position and the lighter weight which makes it more comfortable compared to the hybrid. This is because it means you use less force to pedal and also can alter your back position during the ride. The hybrid keeps you pretty static on the bike and takes more effort to pedal. The road bike also, surprisingly, feels the bumps less than my hybrid does.
+Gone Cycling hybrid bike handling is good . I was going to convert my hybrid handle bars . I change my mind . Now I a m thinking changing my road bike handle to straight bar. I ride a specialized ct disc . I was told I can use it for tours . Yes , hybrid are usually heavier .
How thick tires you have on you hybrid bike?I have a specialized sirrus with 32mm thick tires.I will ride faster with thinner tire?Your video is awesome!
Thanks man, sorry about the delayed reply. RUclips didn't notify me of the comment. My hybrid has 32 mm tyres but my road bike has 23 or 22 mm (I think). I have read the 25 mm tyres are best but I'm not sure how much of a difference the 25 mm tyres make
Wondering if your hybrid bike is a full-on upright position, or are you still somewhat sloped downward? I find most "hybrids" still have a bit of an aggressive stance, unlike a dutch-style upright.
I ride almost every day, sometimes far too. my budget isn't that big but I could stretch to a road bike. which bike would you say is best? I usually only ride on roads but is a road bike worth the price?
shaibike did a review of budget road bikes $500/$600 and I may well get one if I continue cycling.4 or 5 miles per hour advantage is huge and may well encourage me into longer rides when the weather warms again next year.Depends how my knees go.
Thanks for this test as it confirms my experience that a hybrid is nearly as fast as a road bike. In this case, your hybrid is more than 10 pounds heavier and you're using less than ideal tires (28s would increase your performance). I would say that you would find no difference between the bikes if you rode a hybrid of the same weight as the road bike and with better tires.
It is probable that if the hybrid was lighter and had the same components that i would have similar performance. The big difference is the drop bars on the road bike. They make a big aero difference. If the hybrid had the same components and weight as the road bike the road bike, because of the drop bars, would probably still be faster due to the ability to ride aerodynamically comfortably for long periods.
Nah you could put 25s on the hybrid, I can't put them on my propel though! Even with the tyres the road bike would still be faster than my specific hybrid. It has a different hear ratio, is lighter and much more aero
im glad u called out ur specific brand. regardless of the results of this test, there is no hard fast rule as to which configuration is in fact better. this comes down to preference and what one plans to use it for. most urban cyclist will get more versatility and carefree enjoyment from a "hybe" than any road bike. no matter what make it is. a person has to trust their bodies and trust the feeling u get when u stop thinking about what other people tell u to think about.
Road bikes are the kings of pavement. But Hybrids are the best all around bikes. Especially since the shocks and wider tires allow you to cut through gravel back alleys with ease.(especially if you have a decent gravel tire installed) And when I factor in the shortcuts I can take in a hybrid, it seems like a roadie just doesn't get me there as fast! I still want a road bike though!
Not a bad decision at all. The most important thing about a first bike is that it gets you out, you have fun and kick ass on it :-) just my opinion but if you enjoy it then it is well worth it. I know a few people who have Claud butlers and they love them :)
+Gone Cycling thanks for the reply, my first ride on it I did 21.7 miles in about 2 hours. I don't know if this is good or not but my legs were like jelly.
+lewis oleary as a comparison, my first ride was 6.5 miles. I was dead and couldn't ride for two days haha (I was bigger and way less fit). 21 miles is a great first ride, definitely something to be proud of :)
Man you are flying on that Propel, not fair! :( Actually impressive in the last sprint test I expected the Hybrid to lose by a LOT more! Wow. I think 1-2mph loss for all-day comfort is worth it as long as you're not racing. I am trying to make the decision to sell my 2016 Giant TCR Advanced SL 2 before moving to Hawaii this month. I am thinking of going for something a little more rugged due to weather and conditions. I am really looking into a flat bar bike... something like the Giant Roam/Cannondale Quick CX or Quick. In your opinion is it better to stay with a solid fork in the front or go with the lower end Suntour forks? I do like to climb and don't want to have a super soggy unresponsive shock in the front end... you know, coming from high end road bikes I want to still feel some snappy handing etc. Can't have it all I know. What do you think?
was the weight same on both bikes...? If so road bike won hands down...if it was 3 or more pounds lighter then this should be stated...thanks..Ps are wheels same size?
The road bike is much lighter. When I made this video it was just a bit of fun. I didn't expect it to get anywhere near as much attention as it did otherwise I would have taken it more seriously and stated all this stuff in the video :)
Road bike is better pavement and Short Ride 700x23-700x28 depends on the frame and fork you are stuck in Road Riding, Hybid is Better in long journey Pavement and Gravel it is more comfortable to ride, Gravel bike is a hybrid bike with drop handlebars and thinner tires 700x32-700x40 Can be use for bikepacking with light loads. Hybrid is better you can use different tire width 700x32-700x50 and more durable for bike packing and touring, capable of heavy to light loads. Best choice is Hybrid Touring Bike like Giant ToughRoad SLR 1 =)
Nice video, could you specify what the weight of each bike was? And/or the cost of each bike. For a person just starting with cycling a $500 difference +/- for 4 mph may not be in their best interest. Also, if there is a medium to large price difference, the components may be way better on your road bike. A nice test may be to borrow two equally priced/component equivalent bikes, from the same manufacturer and see what comparisons and contrasts they offer. Thanks, I enjoyed your video!!!
The revolution cost £600 when I bought it. The giant cost £1299. It does have much better components. The revolutions weighs 14KG and the giant 8.5KG. The purpose of this video was to compare the difference between these two bikes and not necessarily to see how the propel compares to other similar bikes. I don't have the means to do such a test. Though it would be something that I would love to test. Thanks for the feedback though, I appreciate it :)
Touring/Racer/Road (whatever you want to call them) bikes leave me standing on my Dawes Hybrid, but I don't use the highest gear (21) because there is some friction that I've never been able to work out. Never had a touring bike before but the wheels are so thin seems like if you hit anything in the road like a stone or something seems a lot more dangerous...also handlebars no good for carrying your shopping...And my bike is't some fitness routine or weekend hobby, it is permanent transport.
Hi i am 50 now and i have been cycling for 40yrs i still have my bmx from 83 i do take it out about 3 times a year, i have a canyon fitness bike (Hybrid) 22 speed a road bike with flat bars and a canyon endurance road bike. I use both to commute and charity rides the hybrid if used constant for 3 months i do get back pain which is caused by the position on the bike being more upright compared to the road bike which i never have any issues as the lower position helps my back. I have never used and speed sensors power meters average speeds its a waste of time, if i cycle into a strong head wind i will go slower compared to a tail wind witch will make me go faster i go by feel i pedal when it gets to easy i change gear without working hard on the pedals and i do go fast last year i was cycling and car was next to me and a voice said mate your going 30mph and i just laughed to myself.
a have this bmx it's old and gunky .i repainted it replaced all the stock parts with new ones.can i put a suspension fork on my bmx?i want something new,something fresh.out of the box ..well,if you agree that i can replace it or it will work.i'll do it.thanks.love the vid.i have a hybrid and road bike too.
I would love to give you advice on the bmx but I would hate to misadvise you. I know very little about the bmx or suspension so I can't really say. Thank you for the compliment on the video though :)
well thanks man...but i'm gonna try it anyway cuz o have this old fork and yeah.thanks for the response anyways.be riding tomorrow in the slow group haha
It depends. Tires and ride position and weight of the bike. Tires to rolling resistance, assuming similar tires, ride position makes you aerodynamic with drop bars that beneficial with flat lands and down hill think of cutting into the wind...weight of the bike going uphill makes it easier assuming road bikes are lighter. Overall...conservative guess...maybe 10-15% faster,
Wew, no traffic jam. I wish in my country, the roads were so peaceful. Nice riding bro! :D Enjoyed watching it! :) Subscribed+Liked. ;)! Thanks and keep posting! :D!
Ha yes it was lovely and clear one the roads this day. Nothing quite like having the road to yourself :) Thanks for the compliment man, I really appreciate. I hope you enjoy future content :)
You can go a whole lot faster on a hybrid than that. You are not using all the gears it seems. And it also depends on who is sitting on the bike. I would say that road bikes are slightly faster and more smooth on the road, and if you are concerned about the comfort, then they offer it as long as you are on quality roads without hills and bumps. Hybrids/Mt bikes on the other hand may be a little bit "harder" for some people to handle, because the demand a little more effort, even if its not really noticeable. They however are way better when you are demanded to make sharper fast turns, go over hills, and even some roads that are low quality.
Not that much faster and you are incorrect about the gearing. One of the reasons I got the road bike is because I found myself maxing out my gears on the hybrid. On the road bike the ratio is different so I can get the same speed out my hybrid maxed out as I can out of my road bike without using up too many gears. I disagree about the road bike on rough roads. Keep in mind that I can only speak of these two bikes but my road bike transfers much less vibration than my hybrid making it more comfortable. I have also compared the road bike to my hybrid on rough cycle paths and rolling hills and the road bike is still faster by a considerable margin.
Great video, just out of curiosity, is your hybrid a lot longer than your road bike? I have a hybrid that was a gift from my wife, it's a large size which is supposed to be correct for my height, i just got a road bike and it's supposed to be correct for my size and it is quite a bit shorter than my hybrid. I know I should have got properly fitted but I was on a pretty tight budget. I'm not sure if that is normal or if one is too big, or the other is too small. Thanks for your comparison.
Yes my hybrid is a bit longer than my road bike. I wonder if the frame is smaller to accommodate the drop bars. Also there is a slight overlap between my foot and wheel on the road bike but not on the hybrid. I was really concerned about this at first but after some searching it is normal, apparently :)
gixxerboy555 ultimately yes. If all other criteria were the same then, between a road bike and a hybrid, the roadie would be better. The aero position alone makes it faster and more efficient and that is without even talking about weight, gearing and fitness etc.
You can buy flat bar road bikes. I'm not sure why you would want to though (that is just a personal opinion). I often use the drops as part of normal riding. The drops are brilliant for reducing wind resistance and therefore reducing the effort required to maintain speed :)
hey. im 17, so not got the funds get to put £1000+ into a bike yet. i currently use a 13.9Kg carrera vengeance mtb with slick tyres. i am considering saving up to maybe like £500-£700 to put into a road bike come May (my birtyday).. will i find much of a difference going from a mtb to a road bike from a £300 mtb to £500-700 road bike?
Yesterday i bought my Specialized diverge sport a1 2016. I was previously on my Specialized hard rock. The difference between the two bikes is unbelievable. So much smoother to ride with no noise of tires or anything on the bike. You can ride it so much faster so much easier it is ridiculous. The diverge was £570 new for me. It's a gravel bike so it has 28mm tires on it right now which are a tad bigger than normal. I recommend checking out my bike online. Also the Specialized Allez may be a good choice as it is a cheap road bike made by Specialized (so it's reliable and cheap)
Yeah you find a difference. The brakes wont be as good and you can't take it off road or slam it into kerbs and potholes like your MTB, you will also notice that all your clothes are wrong because at the higher speed they flap in the wind. Road bikes are faster ON THE ROAD. It depends on what type of cycling you want to do. As for budget, its not as important at you think. don't rush into it, buy last year's model to save cash. Go to a cycle store to make sure the bike fits you.
I have never used a mountain bike so I can't say for sure but I would imagine there will be a large difference. The gearing will probably feel slightly harder at first, you will go much faster, the ride position will feel fairly different and may take a little getting used to. You will notice you can ride much further, much faster for far less energy :)
+pbassred thanks very much. i live about 5 miles from chain reaction cycle's main warehouse worldwide, so il have a nosey in there. the only thing i would ask though, if i was to buy a bike online (because i often find it a lot cheaper than instore there) would i be able to bring it to a shop i havnt bought from to get a bike fit? i know durianrider is a massive advocate for a good bike fit so thats why im wandering. he says that in store, a decent chunk of the price will be for a professional bike fit
+Sixa well they can sell you that service but by that time you might have alredy bought the wrong bike. it might be worth developing a relationship with your local shop. Finding a bike that fits you is different from having a bike fit.
Asslam Putra saputra all I can do is to speak to my own experience. For me my road bike is the most comfy by far... until the track becomes really bumpy then the hybrid takes over.
+Zhou Chris There are aero road bikes with disc brakes coming into market, some weighing in at only 200g above its equivalent calliper discs. They are simply better in many ways especially when the average cycling speed goes up to 20+mph
The biggest difference in my opinion is that with hybrid you can drive in any terrain.
With Road you have to think before driving on gravel/dirt/sand because all road bikes cant handle that.
no shit
Get gravel bike, doesn’t need hybrid
@@anata5127 I prefer a cyclo cross bike than a gravel. Its much faster!😉
Vladimir Ipotzky interesting, are we comparing bikes from the same company? I have seen videos that claimed opposite.
@@anata5127 No I just ride fast, so I prefer a cyclo in some terrain rather than a gravel. But its your choice my dear, gravel is an awesome bike too, especially on touring.😉
Hybrids are very tough..and fast for me. I love going off road on trails and then speeding home on the road.
Tnx for your feedback, was going to get one 🙂
@@infinitybeyond9644 if u get... Make sure u have rocky, muddy and up down roads in your area.. Life will be more fun then
what bike u got?
Great video had a road bike and now on a hybrid. Road bike is faster but the comfort for me is better on a hybrid but I'm not a endurance rider just ride about locally with a big comfy gel seat
Converted my hybrid to drops, and exchanged the drivetrain. It's heavy, but comfortable. On a whim I can add very large tires and hit the gravel roads.
Was it easy to convert to drops? I love my hybrid but would love drops on them.
@@flyinlow1 so would I. They have very good potential to hold a good speed but the flat bar is not optimal even though I rather it.
Gravel is a marketing gimik, it a Hybrid Bike with Dropbars.
I'm starting to feel a little better. I thought I was going slow on my hybrid with a 15mph over a 12 mile ride with gravel/hills/road.
In the end of 2017 I wanted to get new bike. Started with cross type bikes, but quickly realized that i don`t need front suspension and wide tires when I live in big town and mostly ride on asphalt anyway.
Ended up with fitness/hybrid bike (Giant Fastroad SLR1) and now why:
- wanted to have hydraulic disc brakes
- wanted to have easier to accelerate bike than any other "regular" one.
- didn`t want to have road bike bar and frame geometry
- wanted to have solid, but still light as possible frame (I`m around 100 kg`s)
- wanted to have possiblity to change grip on the bar (horns) and they are really do the job.
So for me, there was not much options to choose, but I`m happy with my choice.
Comfortable speed for me on flat road is 25 - 30 kph without pushing.
Realistic weight of Fastroad SLR1 on L alu frame (I`m 183 cm tall) + saddle bag with reserve tube and some tools + inflate micro pump + front/rear light is bit over 11 kg`s
2017 spec bike costed in euros about 860.
I use a hybrid for fitness, running errands, and every day riding. Hybrids are indeed great bikes and I love my hobby. I ride 50-70 miles a week in comfort. I love paved trails and sidewalks and I don't prefer speeds or riding with heavy traffic. I ride the emergency lane, which in Georgia is our bike lane. Hybrids are a great bike and the comfort is amazing! My husband can easily go 25 plus miles an hour on his hybrid. He is an experienced rider and previously was on bike patrol for several years. He's certified for riding etc.
At those speeds body position is more important than anything else, a road bike will generally place the rider more forward and down thus significantly increasing efficiency primarily in terms of aerodynamic drag. Also this position increases pedaling efficiency, but to a lesser extent overall.
If you were to repeat this this test on a recumbent your speeds would be even higher, even more so taken all the way to the extreme with a full fairing on a recumbent.
This is why racers draft each other, the difference is is MASSIVE and increases exponentially with velocity.
The trade off is from a practicality perspective, a more upright bike, such as a hybrid or mountain bike offers a more controllable geometry over technical terrain. The rider is much more mobile around the bike moving for and aft which is very useful on loose surfaces as opposed to a road bike where the rider is pretty well locked into a forward position.
Comfort is a subjective thing, in cases where the rider is generating a good amount of power most of their weight is on the pedals and not on their hands even in a forward position. For fit riders with strong legs and core muscles a road bike is very comfortable, for those who are on the path there a more upright bike will distribute their weight more to the saddle.
Weight differences matter whenever you are changing velocity or climbing, but a 10mph headwind will slow anyone down more than an extra 10 pounds.
All4Grogg brilliant summary of the differing positions. Tell you what, I would love to give a recumbent a try. I have seen a few on RUclips and they absolutely fly along :)
Thank you for the comparison. Makes my decision a lot easier now.
I've owned a garneau urbania sp 4 hybrid for about a year and a half and commute about 10 clicks each way on it daily. for me the hybrid works perfectly, it's more rugged than a roadbike fer sure and more versatile, especially for leisure rides that may find me wanting to venture into park trails or onto gravel or a bit of dirt where a roadbike just wouldn't be practical. A hybrid will be a little heavier and a little slower, but ya can take it almost everywhere in urban areas with confidence.
Videos like these really do a lot to help absolute plebeians like me. Good work my man ❤️
Road bikes are designed for speed the hybrid ( of which I have had for many years😊) is designed for more comfort but, can be quite fast to a point. Unlike the MTB's USUALLY! more heavy & slower. ( but, that's another story). It just comes down to which bike a person prefers to for their bycicle.
Hybrids are also designed for versatility, and MTBs for sheer toughness.
I went from a Sirrus to a Domane (equivalent to a Defy rather than Propel) so the geometry and lack of aero frame meant it wasn't as large of a jump. But I can definitely see about a 1-2mph spike around the time when I upgraded. Part of that could've been continuing to drop weight, part could've been pushing harder because I had a fancy new toy. But it honestly just felt faster. Ultregra 6800 groupset vs a 10 year old smattering of Shimano components (looks to have been Sora but had a couple of older 105 upgrades at some point) shifted better so I probably used more efficient gears. Even the relaxed geometry of the Domane is more aggressive than the Sirrus. And I did get in the drops or at least bend my elbows on the hoods more.
There were 2 changes I noticed. I could sprint faster. Getting into the drops was way faster than holding bar ends and bending my elbows. Sure we are talking a 20-60s all out effort and only about 2-4mph. But it was noticeable. The other thing I could feel was that what felt like a tiring pace was less tiring. Last spring when I upgraded I usually was about 12-14mph on my Sirrus. That was the pace I could ride about 2-3 hours before being too tired (or at that time saddle sore since I was still working on acclimating to increased saddle time). I could ride about 14-15mph for about 30-60 minutes. Any longer than that and I needed to slow down. On the Domane the first thing I noticed was 14-15 felt easier. Part of again was probably using better gears (learning more about cycling, getting used to a higher cadence, etc). But part was probably it just required a few less watts. Enough that what used to tire me out in an hour took 2-3 hours.
We're probably talking 5-10% less power at most here. That is about all if takes to be the difference from a 20 minute threshold to a 1 hour high tempo ride. A Propel is more aggressive and has aero tubing. It probably saves a bit more wattage so the fact that your numbers jumped up that much probably shouldn't be that surprising. Still my favorite thing is if I have to ride a headwind, I can get in the drops or get low on the hoods. Even the lowest posture I could hold on my hybrid I felt every bit of the wind when it was blowing in my face. I still don't like a stiff headwind (though being a heavy cyclist I'll take wind over hills) but at least I have a way to battle it and minimize the damage. On the Sirrus? Only option was to slow down.
Thank you for the comment. I appreciate the detail. That is exactly what I have found. It is far far easier to hold a slightly higher pace over much longer periods which in short videos like this don't show up much but which massively adds up over time. The drop bars are a huge improvement too. In fact, I was surprised just how much of a difference they make. I have had the propel for a while now and I'm currently making a review of it. I'm going to say much the same thing as you have said here.
One of the biggest differences is distance riding. I just did a 68 mile ride (the longest I have done) and it glided the whole way. I was far far less tired on that compared to the hybrid I have.
Hey, I have a Sirrus also with hydraulic disc and aiming to get a Domane or Cannondale Synapse. Did you go for an aluminum or carbon Domane? Disc or caliper breaks. The Domane with disc breaks looks nice but I want to get 28s and the bike comes with 32s. What's your take ? n which one do you have?
Fidasaind I have been wondering rather drop are better than my bar ends when it comes to sprinting. Anyone else think so?
Your response is as impressive as the video.
Well, I am planning to buy a bike. The tie is between - should I buy a Giant Cross City(hybrid) or Giant Defy(Road bike)?
Its been nearly 10 years since I a rode a bike. Currently, the only form of physical fitness is jogs and runs.
But I want to cut down on runs which are hurting my knees already and shift towards biking - hoping its less stressful on my knees.
Though my initial plan is to begin biking sooner or later attain the ability to bike long distances.
Could someone help me in this decision making?
Appreciate your response. I have a Sirrus Sport from 2019 and am thinking of adding my first road bike. My speed is similar and have been trying to figure out if there will be much increase of speed or endurance. Mostly I just want a ride a drop bar road bike. Looking at Allez.
Really useful video. I'm just getting into cycling, and recently done the London to Brighton as my first ride of any distance using a hybrid as I was told this was the way to go. I was with a guy who is twice as heavy and not as fit as me, the only difference being he was on a road bike. Keeping up on the flat was fine, although I had to work a bit harder than him. On the hills it was a totally different story I had to work extremely hard to keep up which meant I eventually had to ask him to lower the pace. Long story short, if you want speed above all else, I'd go for a road bike. Something I'm now doing!
This is exactly my experience too. For speed and efficient cycling go for a road bike. Distance riding is the same. Because the bike is lighter, more efficient and faster it makes distance riding easier in my view. By the way, that sounds like a great first distance ride. I have seen some videos on RUclips of it :)
You're going to regret getting a road bike. You're boys will hurt, your butt will hurt, your hands will go numb from leaning on them all the time and your lower back will ache. You can only stay in the drops so long. I have a road bike because I love the speed. I finally converted it into a more upright riding position. I only lost an average 1 to 2 mph. (BIG WHOOP) It was worth the me for the comfort. I don't do races but I still keep up and pass the roadies
Nice one, I hope you enjoy the road bike. I found exactly the same as you did. Ignore the comment below. On top of being faster and more efficient, I found my road bike to be far more comfortable than my hybrid :)
I disagree, I was bicycling on bike that was too big for me and my sitting position was the same as I would sit on a road bike, I can't imagine how uncomfortable it would be to sit with a straight back
I have done this road last week on road bike, but that is quite hilly, dont worry so much if the hybrid was not useful in ascend your shape is trash, but anyway if you want join my ride, let me know, maibe even mine shape is bad :)
I'm only twelve years old and this helped me decide to get a hybrid. it's not because it's faster but it looks like they have lots of control. I got the the Carrera Abyss Hybrid instead of the Boardman Road bike.
Nice! I hope you enjoy it. I have had loads of good adventures on my hybrid. I'm sure you will not be disappointed:)
Im 13yrs of old, but i decided to get a roadie for speed, lightness and btw after riding my roadie for weeks i noticed that my legs got that handsome looking muscles now.
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I didn't see one pot hole where do you live
How I wish that was true. This stretch has recently been replaced. It was atrocious beforehand.
I ride road bikes for 10 years now and you know there is nothing to compare with. If you want speed and lightness, road bikes are the best. Nice to see you're using Strava too! ;)
Yep, when I first made this video I didn't fully appreciate this fact. This video doesn't demonstrate it very well. Maybe I should redo it with a better test. You are right though, the speed you get from a roadie is much greater than that on a hybrid :)
Gone Cycling You need to compare a road bike to a fitness bike of the same spec. Then it would be fair
It's all about keeping your mind and body fit, speed matters nothing enjoyment matters most, hoof it when you can chill when you can't.
Davy Scales absolutley. Sometimes I like to hammer it down the road. Other times I like to chill along secluded cycle paths. Like you say, it is all about the enjoyment :)
The breakdown for people new to cycling:
-hybrid: for if you want to commute, don't care about speed, the hobby of 'real' cycling (sorry but it's true) and those with worries about control or comfort on a full on road bike.
-road bike: for those who want more speed, plan to do more physical training by bike (for fitness, to compete etc. Rather than just to pop to the shops), want to work their cycling skills more (I first found roadies much different) and those who are more flexible :')
I'll be happy to share advice and experience myself, all views are my own and for reference I have been riding road bikes approximately a year, I compete at amateur level with my local cycling club on chaingangs, club rides and tt's. Currently riding a 2015 CAAD8 Shimano 105 as my main bike
Rofl how about people riding trails not all of us wan't to ride on boring flat roads. and no one gives a shit about your pointers becouse you clearly are an idiot
+Sean Nurminen +Sean Nurminen if you want to ride trails, ride trails, I support all riders because I'm not a jackass. You however are on a video about road vs hybrid bikes, on which I left a comment with tips about said bikes. And you're asking about MTB/CX which is completely different. I'm not a jackass, because I'm above coming to a comment section and being pissy about nothing, especially when I'm trying to help people new to cycling.
Hybrid: rough or dirt roads, heavy loads, inclement weather.
Road: Faster ride, good if you're not carrying much.
Either is just as good for commute depending on how much you carry and the type of road and weather.
Hi. I'm looking at getting a bike for the 13 mile ride (each way) on a cycle route to uni...about 3 days a week. I want to keep my cube mtb for trails etc so which would you recommend for me? Road or hybrid...or perhaps cx? I just want to get there the easiest way possible :)
Gravel bike - not been mentioned in the comments yet but basically it's a less aggressive road bike, capable of off road with some road styling, in-between a hybrid and road bike and next step to road without being a full on race machine. Has bigger tyres for trials, flared bares for stability, still light and more upright than road, more forward pressure than hybrid etc. Eg: Raleigh Mustang, Felt VR50, Giant Revolt etc choices are broadening in this field. I'm currently on a Kona Dew Hybrid, love it but need the next step. Tried a road bike, sold it within a week, too aggressive for me so was introduced to a gravel bike, researching currently.
What are the different tyres between the bikes? Tires with a tread pattern eat energy. Smooth tires glide. When I changed from the stock tires on my Trek hybrid to Shwalbe marathon plus I got 3-4 KPH - ON THE SAME BIKE. The same thing happened on my cycle-cross bike.
I have marathon plus on the hybrid and stock giant tyres on the road bike. The hybrid has small treads and the road bike has slicks. The problem with this video is the segments are so short it doesn't come close to reflecting the real difference between the bikes :)
I just bought a Nakamura Royal 2016 Bike Today... It is GREAT!
Nice! The suspension on it should keep you comfy on your rides :-)
thank you for that info and great riding my friend..
No problem at all :)
Yep, he was in great shape after 2-3 miles on hybrid bike.
I’m gunna be touring Europe on my Trek DS2 soon. I’ll stick to my hybrid thanks
Most comprehensive information out there which removes the guess work. Looking at how much this topic is debated I'm surprised yours is the only video out there with a direct comparison. Also I ride my road bike (cannondale caad8) on absolutely shattered roads in India everyday for commute. All you really need is a good eye to avoid the big potholes and puncture resistant tires(gatorskins). I literally smoke every bike here, even on bad roads. I like hybrids and had initially bought one (Scott sportster 40) but looking at the surprising off- road capability of 25c tires and the increase in speeds, I will take the road bike everyday of the week. It is also more comfortable. I sold my hybrid (at a loss) in no time. For my purposes the road bike does everything the hybrid did, but faster. I still think hybrids are nice but once you get used to a road bike (there is a learning curve if you are not used to this style I wont deny), they are faster , more comfy and can carry loads too. In addition you can join fast group rides for fitness.
abhishek nayak this sums it up perfectly. In fact, I would have sold my hybrid too if not for the fact the the ground gets icy here in winter and I can't put bigger tyres on my road bike. You are absolutely right about the learning curve too. The biggest learning curve I had was the gearing. It is a lot harder than the hybrid I have but a bit of muscle adaptation and it was fine. Flying, as you rightly say :) thanks for the comment man, nice to know someone shares my view on it.
You're welcome! I knew my road bike mostly felt faster but your video confirmed this. I hadn't had strava when I was on the hybrid so did not have anything to compare to. Keep up the great work! :)
are people seriously comparing average speed when riding in the city, its not worth it
I know this is a 2-year old comment, but I had to say this:
Average speeds should be compared in the environment in which they will matter.
It's irrelevant whether speed comparisons in the city "faithfully represent the relative potential of the bikes" because hypothetical quality is meaningless in the face of actual results.
Fair comparisons in the city may be distorted to some extent by uneven traffic light waits and such, but that is only true for very small sample sizes. When you commute every day, you get a sense of which is better overall.
And in any event, the average speeds in this video didn't include waits for traffic lights. So any distortions were minimal at worst.
Good video! what gearing did each bike have? it's also good to ride a different bike each day, each has there place, Hybrids def better for riding through town, more upright position gives better visibility to vehicles seeing you and gives the rider better view of whats going on with pedestrians and vehicles. In my opinion only! but what I have found over the years.
great job.very informative and thanks for uploading
Thank you, I appreciate the comment :)
I would have liked to hear some subjective thoughts on quality of life while riding one bike versus the other. Interesting comparison, the number are to be expected, but I want to know what the experience is like overall and whats different in the experience when doing a longer run on both bikes. Thanks for sharing your experiment none the less!
you can park in either direction over there? madness!
Wounded Knee haha! Now that you point it out it really is madness
I watched again just to check on your comment and yes they are parking both directions! lol
My hybrid with skinny tires beats lots of road bikes, my 175 cranks help a lot with the effort!
Really. How long do you last? Up to 5 miles. Right?
Great video..would you recommend installing a bar end on a hybrid bike ? Something that would offer a different hand position for longer rides. I have a giant escape 3 and I absolutely love it but I am looking for ways to make rides over 50km more comfortable on my hands/arms.
Hello, thanks for the comment. I would say it is worth it. I even resorted to installing TT bars on my hybrid for alternative positions. I honestly think that being able to alter position adds to the comfort of longer riders :)
Ps I was going to get an escape 3 as my first bike but when I went to the shop they had sold out so I bought a revolution.
+Gone Cycling cool thanks for the reply
Great video. I have both road and hybrid. Only problem I have is deciding what one to use lol. I love them both
Thanks for doing an updated demo between a road bike and a hybrid. I, myself have a steel road bike (28c tire width (but has straight bars on it), and a hybrid (carbon 29er MTB frame which I developed into a hybrid). 40c tire width carbon bike. They might be the same nearing weight between the two, but I rode my hybrid on a straight way not too long ago and it went pretty fast (as I also had the wind behind my back). They both go quick too as you have demonstrated with yours. Cheers!
+Tracey McNeel No problem at all, I hope it was useful. Yes it is impressive how fast you can get on hybrids/mtb's. I think the that road bikes only really come into their own when you are going at top speed. That said I have seen plenty a mountain biker beating a roadie, myself included in that sometimes lol.
Happy riding :)
I switched from Road to Hybrid and never looked back. Have the same amount of speed on the hybrid as I did with a roadie without the pain in the neck, numbness of the hands and pubic bone soreness of a road bike. (yes I had my road bike properly fitted)
Great video and information. If you were to choose wich bike is more confortable for this distance rides, wich one you ll pick?
Iv tried both road and hybrid. Not a fan of road bike (genesis aether 30) even if its a bit faster and lighter, i feel like the tyres could pop from any bump i go over, not much control and it hurts like hell.
My hybrid (Crossfire 3) is more forgiving and can be just as fast while having more control and take it over bumps without feeling like its about to break.
Also used to rock a muddyfox flare MTB but that was too heavy amd cheeply made so didnt last long.
I was trying to decide between a road bike, hybrid, and mountain bike. I think I'll probably get a hybrid because the road bikes look uncomfortable. I used to have a Vertical PK7 mountain bike when I was a kid and that bike was heavy but I loved it lol.
AGreedyTree I used to think road bikes would be uncomfortable but I much provide my roadie over my hybrid. I’m tired of riding on the roads now, it is getting too dangerous around here. I would probably recommend a hybrid (or cyclocross) bike so that it is more useable off road. So I think you would be good with a hybrid :)
Did you consider other bikes other than the Giant propel. Im looking at the TCR advanced or supersix. The propel looks interesting but im not sure if going aero would make a significant difference.
I already have a hybrid and was planning on getting an "adventure" bike with drop handlebars but decided to purchase a roadie because i can use the hybrid on rough terrain if I choose to go off-road. Would you recommend the Specialized Allez e5 sport as a beginner road bike? thanks.
Specialized Allez e5 sport is a brilliant bike. Hope you bought it !
I often cycle an 8 mile route there and back at only about 11.5 mph on my very heavy hybrid type bike with mudguards and rear rack with panniers. I recently did the same trip via a slightly longer route at an average speed of 18 mph on my carbon fibre racing bike. I reckon my carbon fibre bike is only about 1 mph faster than my old steel Holdsworth racing bike though.
Maybe the 1 mph is an accurate figure. It is hard to get a good judge on it. I reckon most of the performance improvement comes at the high end performance :)
A pro cyclist would beat an average cyclist if he were on Brompton. And the average cyclist on a pro carbon road bike. It's been proven.
The point is work on getting your fitness to It'd highest level. EAT PROPERLY. And make sure your seat is the right height for you.
To this day most cyclists have this WRONG. My average speed went up nearly 2 miles and hour faster. By just raising my saddle 1.5 inches. For a long time I had been riding with it too low.
Same with tyre pressure and the RIGHT TYRES. My average speed increased by 3 miles an hour. Getting my tyre pressure optimal. And changing my tyres to slicks. Filling them with slime to seal punctures.
I'm using a hybrid bike has shocks on fork and disc brakes because road bikes are too weak for roads of place where i live. In the city i live, roads has a lot of potholes, bumps, some of potholes patched badly. Also some loopholes are positioned parallel to the road, you can stuck thin road wheels to them.
What bikes were used? Because I think the answer is simply that hybrid bikes are generally heavier than road bikes. The tires are thicker and heavier for hybrids too to give more comfort.
In part yes but also the gear ratio is different and the aerodynamics on road bikes are designed for speed. The bikes were a giant propel advanced 2 and a revolution courier hydro disk.
JasonSPD that's not the case because even on the flats and slightly down hill he was always faster.
The fuji traverse 1.1 hybrid bike would have been able to sprint to 38mph. One thing you didn’t talk about in the video was the gearing of both bikes. A 48T chainring and 11T cog does the 38mph. What do both your bikes have for the fastest gear???
I prefer drop-bars when riding on paved roads. They allow for a more aerodynamic riding position, as well as better body leverage when climbing hills. There's a reason why almost all race bikes - touring, and track - have drop bars.
Jonathan Keith same here. The other thing that is good about drop bars is simply that you can move your hands around a lot more. It makes longer rides so much more comfortable.
Exactly! Keeping your hands in the same position for a long time can be quite uncomfortable. It's probably better for your lungs as well, being able to stretch out your arms more.
Tevo41 yeah for me bar ends are very comfortable but I been using my fitness bike for a long time and DIEING to know if having drop bars would be better than my bar ends with a slammed stem
I'm looking to get this bike. I was wondering is there a way you could upload a video of the sound? Also a video of you at your top speed see what you can get on this lovely bike?
Hello :) yeah sure mate, I will make a video of my make speed. By sound do you just mean the sound the bike makes as I travel at make speed?
+Gone Cycling awesome, thanks, yes I mean the sound when free wheeling. Yes sounds strange but I'm just interested. Hard to tell when you are riding. Not sure how you could do it but I'll leave that to you mate aha
+TallentedTrickterzz Tv Ok I understand. I will try to produce a video this week and see how it comes out :) It is pretty quiet though. It isn't one of them clicking ones.
Very interesting. Thanks for posting!
Thank you :) the one thing I didn't factor into this is fatigue. My hybrid is nearly twice the weight of my road bike and far less aero so over time the speed difference probably gets much greater :)
My Average Speed on my MTB is 25 km/h
My MTB mounted with 2.2 Maxxis Crossmark,800mm Handlebar,Short Stem.
And i want to change the geometry of it to add some more aerodynamics.
Is it okay to mount my MTB with slicks tires,TT Handlebarwith Aerobar and Rigid Fork??
Speed is not everything. Comfort , practicality and durability are also important considerations
A good Urban or Hybrid bike can be a tough, low maintenance, relatively fast bike that can do lot of mileage and provide years
of dependable use with little stress on the back.
Jesse Heath no argument from me. This video was a comparison between the two bikes I have. What people want from cycling really dictates the type of bike people will want. If speed isn't your thing then that's cool so long as people enjoy it :) Interestingly, my road bike is much more comfy than my hybrid. Even across bumpy surfaces and even across longer distances.
Thank you for response
Though the cycle of preference for me will always be a Hybrid due to riding posture , mountain bike gearing
and wider tyres ,as stated by your comment above everybody's needs are different as such its necessary to be comfortable with choice of bike made. .
A good bike fit and adequate time on the bike are personally important issues
Have a great day.
Oh yeah
"Ride ON" .
Jesse Heath b
They would both have to be using the same gearing and tyres to make it a good comparison. I once hit 43mph on a flat, smooth road on my old felt hybrid. The funny thing was that it was a 40mph zone and I was passing the cars veeery slowy. Was a great day though, with zero wind.
Curious, what size tires did the two bikes have. I'm guessing the road bike had narrower tires, less road resistance. Also, are the two bikes similar in weight. Thx
I have a £200 carrera hybrid ltd edition and a £2000 trek road bike. honuestly i prefer my carera, the trek is incredible for long journeys and is faster and lighter, but the carrera is an all rounder and i can take it anywhere, it is very fast as well and feels more stable.
I have heard many people say the Carrera is a damn good bike for the cash. I actually considered getting one as my first bike :)
yeah they are really good for the price, love my hybrid and i really want to sell my trek for 2000 and buy a carrera vanquish road bike for 260 but im not sure lol :D
+3432 eriador I have a carrera hybrid as well and It is very quick imo.I can ride high speeds on it , I highly recommend it !
Oliver Lane I know, mine is great, i have tha carrera parva limited edition, wbu?
+3432 eriador I have the crossfire 1 , the older version with the black spokes and smaller writing I believe. Best bike yet , and love passing the road bikes !
I'm thinking it's a matter of your cassette and how big your engine is I've dropped road bikes on a hybrid and on the same have been dropped by road bikes and it's always been the set up or who got the biggest engine .
Is it worth getting a hybrid mountain bike? Any recommendations
Yes, usually people tend to buy a mountain bike and use it for riding on pavements or roads, when in reality a hybrid does this job much easier for you. So definatly, yes.
I'm trying to get t back into riding a bike but am so torn as to what to get....I live in Los Angeles, and the streets can be unforgiving, would you shed some light on any suggestions for a bike?
J.MAR10 86er yes the cheapest bike you can get. It will probably get stolen around there
thank you so much:)
No problem at all, glad you found it useful/liked it :)
what do u recomend for me ( i have to ride 20 KM per day to my college and i have a hybird one do you recomend to me to buy a road bike better ??!!?? ) will the road bike will be more comfortabel for this distance and thank you for the informative vidoe :D
i am really puzzled which one will be more comfortabel and more usefull to me :/
I have been using an old fashion road bike for 2 years. I didn't use a hybrid bike but in my opinion, you should change to the RB if you are able to. it defenitly more aero dynamic and efficient so it can save you a lot of energy for your long ride. :)
Thanks for the Video I looked At The Trek DS1 but thinking about a Road Bike as well I hit trails about twice a month but I want the Road Bike speed... Any Advise?
Good question. Might be worth getting a cross bike. It won't have road bike speed but is a good compromise I think :)
but Gone Cycling what u suggest in a city which is a hilly terrain...which bike will suit me the best??...ur suggestion will be a great help thanx
saquib ahmed it really depends on your fitness and riding style. The road bike is faster for going uphill but because the the gear ratio is different it is also harder. Personally, I would recommend the road bike as it means that you are less likely to hit the max performance of the bike as you get fitter. It is entirely up to you though. It really depends upon how you like to cycle :)
what would be better for fitness? trying to loose weight!! I currently own a MTB and want to get a road bike. been looking at the Giant Escape 1 Disc. any input would be appreciated
Taytoni I have never ridden a giant escape but I hear they are very good bikes. It was on my list of first bikes but the shop I went to never had one in stock. When I first bought a bike I went for a flat bar hybrid (like the escape) because I thought the road bike position would be too uncomfortable. I almost instantly regretted it and wished I got the road bike up front. As for which is better for fitness? In the short term I don't think it matters too much BUT there a couple of points which I think make a difference in the long run.
1. The gear range on the bike. I found that the hybrid didn't have enough gearing to keep up with my fitness once I was up to speed. It meant I would max my gears out. The road bike I have has a harder gear range. So check the gear ratio on the escape compared to road bikes.
2. The terrain you are riding on will have a big impact. The roadbike I have is much faster for the same effort but, because it is missing the smaller front cog of my hybrid it is harder to get up steeper hills.
3. The weight of the bike is important when you are pushing hard when training. The heavier bikes add a little extra stress to the joints. Some might say that training with a heavier bike makes you fitter but I'm not sure that that is true. All I know is that the lighter bike makes it more fun and therefore more effective.
4. The road bike is more aero and so you can go faster. It makes training more fun so for that reason (plus the weight and gear thing) I would buy a full road bike but you will find many different opinions on this. The key points are to get a bike that fits you well, that you enjoy riding and which is at least slightly future proof :)
Haha, I felt very difficult to pick.
Plan to go for either Road or Hybrid. Road bike that I am looking forward is 350 pounds Boardman road sport 10.5 kg. And alternatively Boardman hybrid about 11.5 kg which is also about the same price 350 - 450 pounds.
I tried my friend Carrera Road bike, I just noticed one issue is that it is very hard to look at the side as the body position is a bit bent(Aero) when using road bike and in particularly to corner and look at the incoming objects/obstacles. Maybe I am not used to it. I haven't ride for quite a few years! I will need one to commute to work and perhaps some leisure and groceries trip! And I don't own a road bike!
This video is certainly helpful.
I am wondering if Road bike comfy for camping-kinda-tour or long distance? (eg 50 - 100 miles).
Student at Nottinghamshire.
Hello and thanks for the comment. It takes a bit of time to get used to the road bike position compared to the more relaxed hybrid position but you do definitely get used to it. I bought my hybrid to commute on and within a few months I was wishing I had a road bike. Don't get me wrong they are both good bikes but personally I prefer my roadie.
I have found the road bike to be more comfortable over distance than my hybrid. I think it is because the hybrid is so much heavier and therefore takes more effort to ride plus you are limited in hand positions. But given that those two bikes weigh similar amounts I'm not sure how that would affect ride comfort over that distance :)
Camping tour with touring or gravel bike. Only super fit people will last more than 30 miles on hybrid.
Mate tell me about comfort which one is comfortable because comfort is first priority in any bicycle...
I got road bike and thought it will be very comfortable but unfortunately it wasnt i don't know how i seleted it but now i want to buy a hybrid please kindly tell me hybrid is good for long distance or have comfort...
I m so worry about my road bike as i aspected it wasnt
I m bad luck 😢😢😓😓
Hi, i doubt very between a hybrid bike and a road bike.
The speed is not the point but can you tell me which bike rides more pleasant?
I've hired a road bike and it drove very nice and easy but i had the feeling that the distance from my arms to the brake levers was to far. But the straight handlebars from the hybrid bike looks like its gonna hurt after a few hours because you have to hold your arms straight all the time.
+Marleen Kuijpers Hello :) At first I found the road bike position very uncomfortable. It was really aggressive and I actually had a little bit of pain in my elbow but having gotten it correctly set up I find that the road bike is the most comfy ride of the two bikes. It is the ability to change your hand position and the lighter weight which makes it more comfortable compared to the hybrid. This is because it means you use less force to pedal and also can alter your back position during the ride. The hybrid keeps you pretty static on the bike and takes more effort to pedal. The road bike also, surprisingly, feels the bumps less than my hybrid does.
+Gone Cycling hybrid bike handling is good . I was going to convert my hybrid handle bars . I change my mind . Now I a m thinking changing my road bike handle to straight bar. I ride a specialized ct disc . I was told I can use it for tours . Yes , hybrid are usually heavier .
Marleen, FWIW Different road bikes have different geometry, I.e., different fits. The key is riding a variety and finding a comfortable fit.
How thick tires you have on you hybrid bike?I have a specialized sirrus with 32mm thick tires.I will ride faster with thinner tire?Your video is awesome!
Thanks man, sorry about the delayed reply. RUclips didn't notify me of the comment. My hybrid has 32 mm tyres but my road bike has 23 or 22 mm (I think). I have read the 25 mm tyres are best but I'm not sure how much of a difference the 25 mm tyres make
Nice!Thanks man!
Wondering if your hybrid bike is a full-on upright position, or are you still somewhat sloped downward? I find most "hybrids" still have a bit of an aggressive stance, unlike a dutch-style upright.
Ditto. I picture from the side on both bikes would show a lot off the aerodynamics of the rider.
It is a flat bar road bike so fairly aggressive for a hybrid but not as much as the aero road bike :)
thank you for the review.. i think the road bike is faster not by much,,but is actually faster the road bike.
juan colombia no problem. You are right. Across short distances it is only slightly faster. It makes a massive difference across many miles though :)
I ride almost every day, sometimes far too. my budget isn't that big but I could stretch to a road bike. which bike would you say is best? I usually only ride on roads but is a road bike worth the price?
no
shaibike did a review of budget road bikes $500/$600 and I may well get one if I continue cycling.4 or 5 miles per hour advantage is huge and may well encourage me into longer rides when the weather warms again next year.Depends how my knees go.
Road bikes are great, for around 1000€ you can get good bikes already. Or you get one used :)
Thanks for this test as it confirms my experience that a hybrid is nearly as fast as a road bike. In this case, your hybrid is more than 10 pounds heavier and you're using less than ideal tires (28s would increase your performance). I would say that you would find no difference between the bikes if you rode a hybrid of the same weight as the road bike and with better tires.
It is probable that if the hybrid was lighter and had the same components that i would have similar performance. The big difference is the drop bars on the road bike. They make a big aero difference. If the hybrid had the same components and weight as the road bike the road bike, because of the drop bars, would probably still be faster due to the ability to ride aerodynamically comfortably for long periods.
@@markord so the hybrid is about 4.4 mph slower
Very interesting video. I wonder how the 2 bikes would compare if they were on same tyres? Do you think 25c is too thin for a hybrid?
Nah you could put 25s on the hybrid, I can't put them on my propel though! Even with the tyres the road bike would still be faster than my specific hybrid. It has a different hear ratio, is lighter and much more aero
im glad u called out ur specific brand. regardless of the results of this test, there is no hard fast rule as to which configuration is in fact better. this comes down to preference and what one plans to use it for. most urban cyclist will get more versatility and carefree enjoyment from a "hybe" than any road bike. no matter what make it is. a person has to trust their bodies and trust the feeling u get when u stop thinking about what other people tell u to think about.
How have you attached your phone onto your bike? Looks really secure. Can you send link?
Road bikes are the kings of pavement. But Hybrids are the best all around bikes. Especially since the shocks and wider tires allow you to cut through gravel back alleys with ease.(especially if you have a decent gravel tire installed) And when I factor in the shortcuts I can take in a hybrid, it seems like a roadie just doesn't get me there as fast! I still want a road bike though!
I'm 15 years of age and got my first road bike today. I got a claud butler Milano. Is this a good first road bike or have I made a bad decision.
Not a bad decision at all. The most important thing about a first bike is that it gets you out, you have fun and kick ass on it :-) just my opinion but if you enjoy it then it is well worth it. I know a few people who have Claud butlers and they love them :)
+Gone Cycling thanks for the reply, my first ride on it I did 21.7 miles in about 2 hours. I don't know if this is good or not but my legs were like jelly.
+lewis oleary as a comparison, my first ride was 6.5 miles. I was dead and couldn't ride for two days haha (I was bigger and way less fit). 21 miles is a great first ride, definitely something to be proud of :)
+Gone Cycling thanks for the reply, what psi do you recommend running my tires on? My tires are 120 psi max.
Man you are flying on that Propel, not fair! :( Actually impressive in the last sprint test I expected the Hybrid to lose by a LOT more! Wow. I think 1-2mph loss for all-day comfort is worth it as long as you're not racing.
I am trying to make the decision to sell my 2016 Giant TCR Advanced SL 2 before moving to Hawaii this month. I am thinking of going for something a little more rugged due to weather and conditions. I am really looking into a flat bar bike... something like the Giant Roam/Cannondale Quick CX or Quick. In your opinion is it better to stay with a solid fork in the front or go with the lower end Suntour forks? I do like to climb and don't want to have a super soggy unresponsive shock in the front end... you know, coming from high end road bikes I want to still feel some snappy handing etc. Can't have it all I know. What do you think?
i love going down that road past the linskill center :]
was the weight same on both bikes...? If so road bike won hands down...if it was 3 or more pounds lighter then this should be stated...thanks..Ps are wheels same size?
The road bike is much lighter. When I made this video it was just a bit of fun. I didn't expect it to get anywhere near as much attention as it did otherwise I would have taken it more seriously and stated all this stuff in the video :)
what was the application he's using in the video ? the gps app
It is Strava pro (or plus or whatever it is called. The one you pay for). Not sure if it is the same now, I haven’t cycled in a LONG time.
@@markord alright thx a lot
What's the phone mount you are using? And how much does it cost
Road bike is better pavement and Short Ride 700x23-700x28 depends on the frame and fork you are stuck in Road Riding, Hybid is Better in long journey Pavement and Gravel it is more comfortable to ride, Gravel bike is a hybrid bike with drop handlebars and thinner tires 700x32-700x40 Can be use for bikepacking with light loads. Hybrid is better you can use different tire width 700x32-700x50 and more durable for bike packing and touring, capable of heavy to light loads. Best choice is Hybrid Touring Bike like Giant ToughRoad SLR 1 =)
Nice video, could you specify what the weight of each bike was? And/or the cost of each bike. For a person just starting with cycling a $500 difference +/- for 4 mph may not be in their best interest. Also, if there is a medium to large price difference, the components may be way better on your road bike. A nice test may be to borrow two equally priced/component equivalent bikes, from the same manufacturer and see what comparisons and contrasts they offer.
Thanks, I enjoyed your video!!!
The revolution cost £600 when I bought it. The giant cost £1299. It does have much better components. The revolutions weighs 14KG and the giant 8.5KG.
The purpose of this video was to compare the difference between these two bikes and not necessarily to see how the propel compares to other similar bikes. I don't have the means to do such a test. Though it would be something that I would love to test. Thanks for the feedback though, I appreciate it :)
Touring/Racer/Road (whatever you want to call them) bikes leave me standing on my Dawes Hybrid, but I don't use the highest gear (21) because there is some friction that I've never been able to work out. Never had a touring bike before but the wheels are so thin seems like if you hit anything in the road like a stone or something seems a lot more dangerous...also handlebars no good for carrying your shopping...And my bike is't some fitness routine or weekend hobby, it is permanent transport.
Hi i am 50 now and i have been cycling for 40yrs i still have my bmx from 83 i do take it out about 3 times a year, i have a canyon fitness bike (Hybrid) 22 speed a road bike with flat bars and a canyon endurance road bike. I use both to commute and charity rides the hybrid if used constant for 3 months i do get back pain which is caused by the position on the bike being more upright compared to the road bike which i never have any issues as the lower position helps my back.
I have never used and speed sensors power meters average speeds its a waste of time, if i cycle into a strong head wind i will go slower compared to a tail wind witch will make me go faster i go by feel i pedal when it gets to easy i change gear without working hard on the pedals and i do go fast last year i was cycling and car was next to me and a voice said mate your going 30mph and i just laughed to myself.
Canyon endurance bike is superb. One of the best on market.
a have this bmx it's old and gunky .i repainted it replaced all the stock parts with new ones.can i put a suspension fork on my bmx?i want something new,something fresh.out of the box ..well,if you agree that i can replace it or it will work.i'll do it.thanks.love the vid.i have a hybrid and road bike too.
I would love to give you advice on the bmx but I would hate to misadvise you. I know very little about the bmx or suspension so I can't really say. Thank you for the compliment on the video though :)
well thanks man...but i'm gonna try it anyway cuz o have this old fork and yeah.thanks for the response anyways.be riding tomorrow in the slow group haha
If my average speed is 25kph on a hybrid any idea what that would be on a road?
It depends. Tires and ride position and weight of the bike. Tires to rolling resistance, assuming similar tires, ride position makes you aerodynamic with drop bars that beneficial with flat lands and down hill think of cutting into the wind...weight of the bike going uphill makes it easier assuming road bikes are lighter. Overall...conservative guess...maybe 10-15% faster,
Thanks for sharing. Which bike app is that and how do you attach your phone to the bike?
3Daddicted no problem. This is strava premium and it is attached to the bike using quadlock for iPhone :)
Great, ty.
Wew, no traffic jam. I wish in my country, the roads were so peaceful. Nice riding bro! :D
Enjoyed watching it! :) Subscribed+Liked. ;)! Thanks and keep posting! :D!
Ha yes it was lovely and clear one the roads this day. Nothing quite like having the road to yourself :)
Thanks for the compliment man, I really appreciate. I hope you enjoy future content :)
Loved this video, post more please! :D
It's interesting to watch. I got to buy a bike soon, my old one just died. :(!
+Bright Joe ah shame to hear about the old bike. Hopefully the new one serves you well :)
mexico?
+Gone Cycling Hi. Where are you from?
It seems like they both carry same speed?
Thank you so much for this vid, what app are you using ??
You can go a whole lot faster on a hybrid than that. You are not using all the gears it seems. And it also depends on who is sitting on the bike. I would say that road bikes are slightly faster and more smooth on the road, and if you are concerned about the comfort, then they offer it as long as you are on quality roads without hills and bumps.
Hybrids/Mt bikes on the other hand may be a little bit "harder" for some people to handle, because the demand a little more effort, even if its not really noticeable. They however are way better when you are demanded to make sharper fast turns, go over hills, and even some roads that are low quality.
Not that much faster and you are incorrect about the gearing. One of the reasons I got the road bike is because I found myself maxing out my gears on the hybrid. On the road bike the ratio is different so I can get the same speed out my hybrid maxed out as I can out of my road bike without using up too many gears.
I disagree about the road bike on rough roads. Keep in mind that I can only speak of these two bikes but my road bike transfers much less vibration than my hybrid making it more comfortable. I have also compared the road bike to my hybrid on rough cycle paths and rolling hills and the road bike is still faster by a considerable margin.
Great video, just out of curiosity, is your hybrid a lot longer than your road bike? I have a hybrid that was a gift from my wife, it's a large size which is supposed to be correct for my height, i just got a road bike and it's supposed to be correct for my size and it is quite a bit shorter than my hybrid. I know I should have got properly fitted but I was on a pretty tight budget. I'm not sure if that is normal or if one is too big, or the other is too small. Thanks for your comparison.
Yes my hybrid is a bit longer than my road bike. I wonder if the frame is smaller to accommodate the drop bars. Also there is a slight overlap between my foot and wheel on the road bike but not on the hybrid. I was really concerned about this at first but after some searching it is normal, apparently :)
So...if I wanna go for long and fast rides...;the road bike is the way to go?I'll be much faster with a road-bike?
gixxerboy555 ultimately yes. If all other criteria were the same then, between a road bike and a hybrid, the roadie would be better. The aero position alone makes it faster and more efficient and that is without even talking about weight, gearing and fitness etc.
and if I put a flat bar on a roadbike?Isn't that good?
gixxerboy555 I mean isn't the bars under meant for sprinting?
You can buy flat bar road bikes. I'm not sure why you would want to though (that is just a personal opinion). I often use the drops as part of normal riding. The drops are brilliant for reducing wind resistance and therefore reducing the effort required to maintain speed :)
which is better hybrid or road bike
looks really fun man
Can I ask what app is that and what tool did you use to fix the phone on your bike?
KAI KIN sure, it is strava premium and is attached to the bike using the quad lock :)
Gone Cycling thank you so much for telling me the info
do you reccomend the giordano libero 1.6
I would love to be able to recommend that bike but I know nothing about it. Might be worth checking with a local bike shop :)
Awesome video mate, what are you using to connect the phone to the handlebars? I get paranoid thinking it's going to fall off 😁
It is the quad lock for iPhone. It is really secure. Had it on going over some pretty rough ground and it has not moved an inch. Quality product :)
hey. im 17, so not got the funds get to put £1000+ into a bike yet.
i currently use a 13.9Kg carrera vengeance mtb with slick tyres.
i am considering saving up to maybe like £500-£700 to put into a road bike come May (my birtyday).. will i find much of a difference going from a mtb to a road bike from a £300 mtb to £500-700 road bike?
Yesterday i bought my Specialized diverge sport a1 2016. I was previously on my Specialized hard rock. The difference between the two bikes is unbelievable. So much smoother to ride with no noise of tires or anything on the bike. You can ride it so much faster so much easier it is ridiculous. The diverge was £570 new for me. It's a gravel bike so it has 28mm tires on it right now which are a tad bigger than normal. I recommend checking out my bike online. Also the Specialized Allez may be a good choice as it is a cheap road bike made by Specialized (so it's reliable and cheap)
Yeah you find a difference. The brakes wont be as good and you can't take it off road or slam it into kerbs and potholes like your MTB, you will also notice that all your clothes are wrong because at the higher speed they flap in the wind. Road bikes are faster ON THE ROAD. It depends on what type of cycling you want to do. As for budget, its not as important at you think. don't rush into it, buy last year's model to save cash. Go to a cycle store to make sure the bike fits you.
I have never used a mountain bike so I can't say for sure but I would imagine there will be a large difference. The gearing will probably feel slightly harder at first, you will go much faster, the ride position will feel fairly different and may take a little getting used to. You will notice you can ride much further, much faster for far less energy :)
+pbassred thanks very much.
i live about 5 miles from chain reaction cycle's main warehouse worldwide, so il have a nosey in there.
the only thing i would ask though, if i was to buy a bike online (because i often find it a lot cheaper than instore there) would i be able to bring it to a shop i havnt bought from to get a bike fit?
i know durianrider is a massive advocate for a good bike fit so thats why im wandering. he says that in store, a decent chunk of the price will be for a professional bike fit
+Sixa well they can sell you that service but by that time you might have alredy bought the wrong bike. it might be worth developing a relationship with your local shop. Finding a bike that fits you is different from having a bike fit.
You are strong to be averaging speeds like that comfortably
who is comfortable ?roadbike or hybrid
Asslam Putra saputra all I can do is to speak to my own experience. For me my road bike is the most comfy by far... until the track becomes really bumpy then the hybrid takes over.
great video good comparison !!!
Thank you. What this video doesn't show is how these difference mount up over distance. The road bike is massively faster across longer distances :)
What's the tire width comparison on each bike?
The road bike has 23mm and the hybrid has 32 mm :)
+Gone Cycling thanks.
Road bike with disk break? What was your thinking?
My hybrid has the disk breaks. My road bike has standard breaks :)
+Zhou Chris There are aero road bikes with disc brakes coming into market, some weighing in at only 200g above its equivalent calliper discs. They are simply better in many ways especially when the average cycling speed goes up to 20+mph