Talk Is Jericho: Martha Hart On WWE Suing Her
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2020
- Martha Hart shares stories from her life with Owen Hart, and recalls how the ugly wrongful death legal fight with WWE indirectly resulted in the Owen Hart Foundation that continues to benefit those most in need. Listen to the full episode at www.talkisjericho.com
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I saw Owens kindness first hand. I was in the back area waiting for my wrestler friend to get done at a house show and saw Owen go out of his was to make a severely disabled young mans day. The father told Owen he was his favorite wrestler so Owen treated and talked to the young man like he was Owens hero. He took pics and wanted to give the guy a signed picture but didn’t have any on him. The father told Owen he had done enough but Owen went out to his car fighting the crowds and back in to give the young man a signed picture. After Owen did all this the father started tearing up and said he hadn’t seen his son smile like this in years. At that moment I became a big Owen fan.God Bless you Owen, you were a great guy and class act.
I've seen this before. Maybe not this same experience, but another person had seen Owen's generosity towards a child. He ADORED kids. He'd spend time talking WITH THEM, not AT them or DOWN TO them. Owen had a pure ❤heart!❤ (PLEASE NO JOKES) He did more for fans than Hogan and Flair COMBINED!
Hearing Owen totally mark out for an Indy wrestler to put over a disabled kid is an absolute gigachad move.
Chris is a very good podcaster/interviewer he just shuts up and let's them talk.
The best interviewers are those who are able to listen.
Unlike guys like Ryan Satan, who literally talk over the wrestlers.
On this one.
Kale Morrow then why u here clown
Amen 🙏
This is so sad because Owen wanted to be a teacher after his wrestling career. Good to know his charity is helping students succeed.
Dude! He soo would've been the coolest funnest most funniest teacher ever!!!😭
RIP OWEN HART
Jason, Owen wanted to retire and become a firefighter.
@@mcqueenx75 , true, sad and so true.
OWEN already was a teacher! Either in the late 80s or early 90s he was a substitute teacher in Alberta I have an uncle in Calgary who told me his best buddy knew someone in owens circle and worked on the faculty when owen was there and the harts are legends there if not everywhere.
No this isn’t a my brothers h clear friend cousin said this and that.
This is legit.
I’m not sure how many days he worked or how many classed he substituted but he did this part
Time before going back to the wwf I imagine in between Japan and the brief wcw stint.
Or like
I said in the late 89s he did this before Japan!
80s*
But yeah Owen did teach a few classes which is Cool!
Bobby "The Brain" Heenan told a story when he left the WWE, Owen Hart was one of the FEW people that stuck out his hand shook Heenan's hand and basically told Heenan "It a bloody shame you're going, and we'll all going to be worse off for it". Forget what Owen Hart did in the ring...he was just a solid/great human being.
Oh wow, thats so sad.
@@dianneEdangerously here is the link to the clip of that Heenan interview:
ruclips.net/video/wQAuycTQcaE/видео.html
Heenan put everyone in that company over when he was on the mike. That's a disgrace, that's probably why wrestling sucks now, karma knockin at the door.
I doubt Owen said “.... it’s a bloody shame”
@@robbiesilverwolf he basically was summing it up lol owen said something along the lines of "hey I heard youre leaving and thats a major loss for us(wwf)"
It is sad when we can go so long thinking we know the details, only to realize that we have only heard half of the story. On a real note, Chris Jericho was never my favorite wrestler. I respect his work. I think he is, and has been, a top 5 performer of all time for years. But man, since the Benoit Vice episode, I see him in a whole other light. What Chris has done for Benoit's son and sister-in-law was amazing. Not surprised it is Chris Jericho giving Martha this platform to reach Owen's fans that may not have heard her side of things. Man to man, Chris Jericho, if we are measured by our deeds, you sir, are a good man. Thank you.
bill i agree 100%...if i ever met him i would definitely want to shake his hand for what he did in the benoit episode....but he comes across great in formats like this and podcasts...he was a great worker as well
all stories have two sides and people tend to forget that. to many people take one source or one view point and run with it. i wish people would take their time and try to look at all the angles instead of "what!?! rage, must attack now" just look at the past few years how that has proven wrong and we still haven't learned.
Agreed
@@zerodawn09 and as unfortunate as it is, even years after 2020, people still will have never learned from their mistakes as history continues to repeat itself in a never ending cycle.
Man I was on the lionheart train fro. Day one. Saw him in wcw when he was doing squash matches. We loved him because he had a metal attitide. The more you learn a out chris the more you love him. He is fantastic
She sounds really sincere and I hope she finds peace with her life. I like the story of Owen helping out this homeless guy.
Well she doesn't have any reason to lie about Owen. Vince however DOES. His moronic stunt got a young man killed. Then for good measure he SUES Owen's family. Wow. The WWE what a class act. I stopped watching them 5+ yrs ago and I WON'T be going back. I can't support a scumbag family and man like Vince. Pure 100% TRASH.
@@gbrchopos1802 it wouldn't be murder. Manslaughter? Yes. Negligence? Yes. Would he have done time? Maybe...but not a lot
Truindividual90 well god won’t help the born again Christian when he dies
Truindividual90 I hate Russo bit what that other guy said was out of line
It was a good gimmick the stunt wasn't needed Owen Hart could of popped up the house without the zipline
WWE suing Martha for Breech of Contract is downright Evil and Pathetic.
Its just standard practice now days with court cases the person sueing is automatically counter sued
Well we are talking about Vince... He’s evil and pathetic.
Vince has no heart. Use then dispose
After watching this Dark Side episode I will never watch WWE again. I rarely do anyway, especially now with no crowds.
You know, don't worry Vince's day of reckoning will come. There's these 2 dudes that hunt down evil entities like Vince McMahon. They are actually brothers. I think their last name is Winchester. 😉 Stay safe memorial day weekend everybody and God Bless. 🙏
I feel like Martha was always painted in a bad light, but damn if my heart doesn't break for her as well as Owen's kids and loved ones. The whole situation is just tragic and dirty.
Crazy right? In the most damndest situations, a widow is painted with a bad stroke and gets sued by the company that killed her husband.
guyverjay every comment is now just taking her word for it, people saying “ I didn’t know both sides now I side with her” it’s like you don’t know her or her story or what she’s done...
yeah
You’re weak
@Mike Jones No "grudge", ensuring they don't profit further from her husband's death. By going to court she looked after Owen's survivors because he was no longer around to do it himself. Duh. What new young widow WANTS to go to court?!
I've had nothing but respect for Martha. She's done such a great job keeping Owen's memory alive, and I'm glad her charity has been a success! She's done well for herself and raised her kids right. Owen picked quite a gem!
If she wanted his memory alive, she would honor Owens brother, bret hart wishes, and put owen in the hall of fame. That's his brother after all.
@@solidsnake8331 Bret isn’t considered an immediate family once Martha had Owen’s kids; Bret’s wishes hold no clout. Oje was clear in expressing that his Dad’s name is not connected to anything with the WWE. That’s the wishes that should be respected.
@@solidsnake8331 Theres no hallway or building. There is no physical WWE Hall of Fame. Its a make believe Hall of Fame.
@@sashacooper8629 Bret a brother is always considered an immediate family..that’s what the wife always does separate the husband from his original friends and family. Always nagging. Absolute bullshit statement to say Bret isn’t immediate family. It was Bret who helped Owen be the human being, wrestler, person Owen was or Martha who had just been around for a few years..
Martha is great. Amazing. But don’t say Bret isn’t an immediate family member. Absolute bullshit
@@simsingh8492 You’re a complete idiot. Bret ceased to be an immediate when Owen married Martha and had his kids. You don’t have to be smart to know that. When Owen died, none of his possessions went to his immediate brother, Bret. Owen’s wife and kids got that. His immediate family already said they don’t want Owen’s name associated with WWE; comprehend that and accept it.
Yeah, based on her testimony in this clip, there is no chance Owen will be in the WWE Hall of Fame. How does a company that the husband worked so hard for sue the grieving widow who lost her husband in the company he worked for on the company's pay per view and in front of a live audience?! Just sad. RIP King of Harts.
plus the stuff they did with that Bret Hart DVD
Life is far more important than some bullshit worked hall of fame.
Because Vince McMahon is a greedy piece of garbage. He cares for ONE THING. $$$$$$ I am so sick of the WWE fanboys defending this scumbag. Triple H WAS a great wrestler until he became Vinnie's bitch. Now the Devil has a army. Armed with a Pedophile at his side(Pat Patterson), incestuous clips with his DNA dumpster daughter. YEAH the McMahon's are awesome.
@@TroystonB Especially when you consider who is already in it (erm, Sylvester Stallone, Mike Tyson, Mr. T and Snoop Dogg, for fucks sake??) and those who should be in it! What a joke.
@@EdsterIII That's why it's slowly coming apart at the seems. WWE is officially some shit now.
I can’t imagine what Martha Hart has been through and to still be the person she is today is nothing short of an inspiration. Owen Hart’s death was the saddest day in wrestling history, mainly because we all knew the future he was destined to have and how much of an amazing, funny and genuine guy he was. Thanks for the memories Owen 😇
His wife seems like such a sweet genuine person. My heart breaks for her but she is such a strong woman. She stayed strong for Owen and even stronger for her kids.
Looking forward to that Episode of Dark Side of the Ring
Yup same here
It is
When is it bro .?
@@JavierHernandez-zy4ox Tuesday at 10pm on Vice
If Bret's not involved in that episode then that episode will not be legit at all.
When people talk about wanting Owen Hart in the HOF, honestly after listening to Martha Hart on Talk Is Jericho, I am completely on her side. It isn't just about WWE's responsibility for Owen's death, they were super callous and litigious with a grieving widow, right after his death. People need to realize that the WWE wouldn't see Owen going in as a celebration of Owen's life, they would see it as a profit gain, and a way of saying "we won".
Yes. You won against a grieving widow.
That breaks my heart m8!🥃🍺
You can’t be serious it was vince Russo idea and she sued then first so wwe counter sued
@@DaRealestme WWE messed up big time with Owen. Safety procedures obviously weren't in place. The employer holds all responsibility if there is a death in the workplace and must show proper safely procedures were in place at the time of death.
Exactly right brother. They don't give a shit about legitimately honouring people, for them it's all about making money and getting some good PR. It's embarrassing seeing old timers mark out for themselves at that show every year, God bless the likes of Scott Steiner for preaching truth when he mocks it.
shaquille parsons. Martha had EVERY right to sue them, they KILLED HER HUSBAND! You can make any excuses you want and yes, it wasn’t planned for Owen to die, but they are still 100% responsible for Owen’s death. Bottom line. For WWE to counter sue her is an absolutely DISGUSTING move on their part.
This episode Gonna do numbers
she has every right to detest the wwe ... she lost her soulmate .. who cares about the hall of fame.. remember he died because the company wanted to embarrass him with a stupid entrance
Yes I was 10 when he died still remember sad day
Uhh the entrance was not stupid
@@swftoodeebameffections5119 The entrance was beyond stupid. It didn't boost any gates or add any ratings and it was expensive. Beyond that it was incredibly dangerous. Vince Russo is the biggest idiot in professional wrestling
SWF toodee Bam effections well if it didn’t happen he would of lived... our entertainment is nothing when it comes to a persons life
Brandon KSL russo is an idiot and mcmahon is a bigger idiot for agreeing , wwe love to make examples of ppl ... saddest part is owen just wanted to save enough money to take care of his family and was only a week away from moving into his dream home ... yet ppl have the audacity to attack martha
Suing the women of the husband you killed. Disgusting! They should be ashamed. No wonder she won’t let him go in the HOF!
Theres a reason why the heart family hates her now all she doing is hurting Owens fans now in 20 years people wont even remember who he is because of her
ravensblm incredibly stupid take, Owen Hart will be remembered forever
@@ryanparker3898 your smoking crack if you think that
@Bubba Sawyer I'm gonna proof of everything you said lol
@Bubba Sawyer Maybe because Bret forgave wwe
I don’t think Owen needs the Hall of fame to validate his career. Everyone still remembers Owen and how good he was. Vince is a scumbag and I’m so glad I have an alternative to WWE because anything they produce makes me sick.
Jscottmoody AEW
Thank you Martha for doing this interview
I've always wondered if the only reason Vickie Guerrero was given a role on TV was because Eddie still had 3-5 years on his contract and she was filling the years etc.. ???
EXCUSE ME !?
Wildberry Jam Ultra Cosmic yea
Sounds about right
Yikes. I didn't know that
That was a thought, but Eddie's family was still on good terms with wwe, they probably did just do that to help the family. Hell they brought her back and all. Now she does whatever she wants. She still hasn't said anything negative about them. It is a possibility, and yeah vince a dick, but who ever vince likes he actually does good shit for them.
“ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND IT’S TIME FOR A CHANGE!”
Couldn’t help myself [ RIP OWEN HART 💖 ]
I remember watching this PPV w/ my dad - we were stunned in disbelief when we found out what had happened. The crowd was unusually quiet and JR & Lawler were mute at first. All we could hear was staticky crowd audio. Such an eerie moment that was. Was stunned when Vince OK’d the show to go on.
Man I feel for Martha, lost her Husband who just so happens to be one of the greatest technicians ever in wrestling, and to top it off the company went after her for the death of Owen over contract disputes. Vince is scummy asf hopefully this Dark Side episode in Owen Hart will expose Vince further
For every single one of the Vince is scum stories there is is another of his kindness. So many stories out there of all the kindness he shows. People don't talk about it because it doesn't make the same buzz of him being "evil". He is a business man. Owen's wife seems nice, but there is always more to the story. Like how Owen had always said if he got hurt or worse he never wanted to sue the company because now that's all anyone ever talks about, not his skill. There is a reason his entire family dislikes her, she did for her and went against the wishes of Owen, she didn't honor him by doing this. But that's just one story. Who really knows. In the end it's a sad thing to have happened. RIP Owen
@@cynfullysinical71486 name one story of Vince's "kindness" that wasn't an obvious PR stunt to impress his stockholders
Listening closely, sounds like Martha described her suing WWE first, then WWE countersued. So Martha likely went after WWE first.
@@justine.3774 I mean her husband died in the ring when he wasn't supposed to so yes suing for wrongful death makes sense in this right but why would they counter sue or try to sue her in Connecticut? Honestly the Shit that the McMahon family has put through the Hart Family is outrageous
@@alexrowdyrodrigues9716 Vince is a Golden Dawn member so all this does not surprise me at all honestly
RIP OWEN HART! One of the best to ever do it. It’s so sad his career and life was cut short over a stunt negligence smh. Long Live the King If Harts 😢
One of the best there was, one of the best there is, and one of the best there ever will be!
I hate to make a joke but as a renowned joker I have to believe Owen would've appreciated it.
RIP to a true legend (and two time Slammy award winner) the King of Harts. 💗
Tbh ever since "Dark Side of The Ring" I think people are seeing the WWE (Vince McMahon) in a whole new light & it isn't pretty.... Vince wrong for this smh 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
I have learned that most wrestling fans are stupid hence why we have marks.
Especially with JR speaking out about them
Preach man smh 🤦🏾♂️
@Stan Normal people watched when WWE was at its peak in 1999/2000. Only crazy neckbeards continued watching beyond that.
I've been listening to TIJ for years and I must say this is the best episode ever. It's also the most important episode ever. I read Dr. Hart's book about the funeral, but never really heard her talk much about Owen besides that. It's criminal how WWE treated her, including not paying her the royalties she was owed from them using Owen's image after he died. I hope all of the "fans" who bashed her over the years hear this interview and see why she is justified in not wanting Owen's legacy to be told by the WWE. After all that she's gone through, she has the right to make that decision. Hopefully the true fans of Owen will respect that.
Fuck them fans if their family died like he did and had so many people disrespect their death they wouldn’t worry wtf anyone else thinks
@Shannon Legg The Hart family says derogatory comments about the Hart family. It's well known that they'll bury each other in interviews. They couldn't even get along for the weekend that Stu went into the Hall of Fame. At this point, Vince Russo and Jim Cornette will have a truce before the Hart family.
I take back everything I’ve said about her she’s a great person and I actually respect her for not putting him in the HOF and besides if doesn’t mean anything can’t wait to watch the episode.
Its out now. I just finished watching it. She seems like an amazing person
Truindividual90 I just feel bad for believing Bret he only tried to make her look and sound bad.
Morpheus Fishburn True.
Me too, I take it all back. She is a wonderful human being
The family went after her to protect their own profits and financial interests, which is pretty disgusting
Owen Hart was a real life, living, breathing, actual babyface! R.I.P
As much as I want Owen in the Hall of Fame, I don't nearly blame her for not wanting him in it. She's justified.
And honestly he doesn't need it.
WWE's HOF is a ridiculous joke anyway.
agree
@@ryancorrigan4149 it’s not legends of the company are in it. Don’t disrespect. Owen was a bum
@@matthewuzamaki3510 Bella twins, Pete Rose, Snoop Dogg were legends?
@@simsingh8492
He is an idiot !
The ending of IYH Canadian Stampede was probably the last time the entire Hart Family were together.
Why do you think they didn’t get together after that? They still had the house in Canada, that wasn’t put up for sale until long after Stu Hart passed
That pop was incredible
Owen hart was one of the greatest of all time and more importantly he was an amazing human being.
its so weird. the wrestling biz is so nasty and back stabbing and even if under normal circumstances its a very competitive surrounding, so eventually you will step on someones toes. yet i have not found anyone who has ever talked bad about owen. what kind of angel must one be to make it so far and successful in this biz and yet be universally remembered as a wonderful human being.
Damages should be allowed in all 50 states. Poor Martha. She and Owen don't deserve this. He was great, I've seen footage.
You & anyone who wants to can see that footage because WWE doesn't own it & can't withhold it for profit, partly because Martha took them to court (again) when they tried to & won (again).
The 13 dislikes were from Vince's top shareholders and family
and HHH and Shawn
46 now. And they're all insensitive bootlickers
hehe
Now 65. 65 insensitive bootlickers. Jesus I feel like The Count. "Ah Ah Ah! 65! 65 insensitive bootlickers! Ah Ah Ah!"
I feel bad for her. I like the Hart family however as Owen’s wife, they should have supported her regardless of their personal point of view or feelings. She is Owen’s widow. The spouse becomes the number one bond and the number one priority.
Yes even over children.
And that my two-bits.
Love and peace.
i agree with you
I respect the hell out of Chris. He’s willing to face the wrath of Vince by doing this but is still willing to do it.
Chris
give no fucks he with aew he could care less about wwe
Love to finally hear her perspective on this.
After hearing this I really don't blame Martha for not wanting Owen in the WWE hall of fame
Vince isn't the only one who decided to continue Over the Edge after Owen fell to his death. I mean, Russo and Ferrara too since they are writing for the WWF on both television and pay-per-views at the time and they agreed with Vince by deciding that THE SHOW MUST GO ON. It was a bad taste tho. SMH.
After watching the tv show, I cannot believe how stupid the people hooking poor Owen Hart up, should have known that it was the wrong clip. I knew it was the wrong clip just hearing it. I cried because he was so loved by us older wrestling fans. Bless you and everyone for finally told the truth. I now hate Vincent Kennedy McMahon!!
Kennedy?? Wow
Vince J > Vince K
I don’t think I will ever forget hearing about this terrible accident. Owen’s life was just getting started. He had a wife and kids. For his life to be cut short is just sad. I truly hope Martha as well as the rest of the hart’s can find peace in their hearts. Owen would want that❤️❤️❤️❤️
Listened to the whole podcast. She seems like a really good woman and glad she turned all the tragedy into something positive with the Owen Hart Foundation.
Hello Chris,i don't know if you will read this or not,but here it goes. I began watching wrestling at the age of two,with my dad. I turned fifty this year and as a diehard wrestling fan,i have witnessed many great times watching my favorite sport. On may 23rd,1999 i was with my late best friend watching over the edge. We were in complete shock when we saw Owen's accident and learned of his passing. As you said,in the episode,had owen lived,the talent entering the wwe in the early 2000s was incredible. I wept watching his family and everyone else speak about owen. I have a pwi poster of owen in my bedroom that says we'll never forget him. He touched many people,even to this day,he remains the king of harts. Thank you and take care.
Her and her children have done so good with that foundation I'm glad she was able to do this interview to give her side and point of view if I lost a family member that way in front of a ton of people I could never get over it I'm just glad to see her and the kids doing well sending well wishes to them
McMahon for Prison 2020.
We can only hope
Well, goddamn pal?
I agreed with the first one.
He's definitely one of those people when they die a load of women come forward with horror stories.
Legit, hes been accused and has been spoken of in some seriously incriminating ways. In this day and age I'm surprised something hasn't happened....Money
I remember reading Broken Harts, a book written during a time of deep anguish for Martha and her kids. It’s nice to see them thriving and to see that Owen’s legacy as a human being and a pro wrestler are always remembered fondly by fans.
Owen is too good for the WWE Hall of Fame.
Martha would agree with you.
After watching the documentary two things i was thinking about 1 how strong Martha hart was in dealing with the aftermath and how well their two children have been raised to fine young adults its truly a credit to Martha
the real question is, with everything coming out lately, why in the hell, are we still supporting WWE?
Speak for yourself. I moved to New Japan years ago. There is alot of great wrestling outside the WWE bubble.
I agree.
That’s question u need answer yourself 😂😂😂😂
MicLoud Music. People still support Disney even after they get bad publicity (and admittedly this is coming from a HUGE Disney fan).
People will always have a certain amount of loyalty to a company that has provided much to their childhoods and the WWE most certainly represents a certain amount of childhood nostalgia. Especially since people DO NOT want to believe that something associated with their childhood could be all bad.
At the end of it though, as someone else pointed out, that’s a question you have to ask YOURSELF! You can choose to stop supporting a company like WWE, but you cannot question why others support it.
JJ Abeyta Disney & wwe got some dark ass history
Every man needs a wife like her. A true fighter for her husband.
WWE tells Owen to repel from the rafters, gets killed, WWE sues his widow for breach of Owen's contract. SCUMBAGS !
When an avg person gets charged for an accidental death they face manslaughter charges. When rich people or corporations gets charged for an accidental death they have just have to pay money. Money talks in our justice system. It's disgusting how someones money can sway the courts punishment for their crimes.
Your right but may I ask who would be the one going to jail you said yourself an average person a single person who can be proven to have killed someone accidentally would face manslaughter charges but a company who should go to jail?
@@arontristan7897 they wouldnt they would just settle to pay for a wrongful death if it was a company that caused soneones death.
Appreciate you giving her voice. Letting your listeners hear her side will help keep Owens legacy alive
So according to the WWE he breached his contract by dying?
Beyond foul on them. After this they won't get my money anymore, especially after hundreds being let go when they didn't even have to. What about their contracts?
Well, remember that the WWE "allowed" Vickie Guerrero to "finish" Eddie's contract. Makes you wonder what would have happened if she had declined... sad to say.
@@cajunasian71 this company is one big scam from the over priced shirts, fake items and bad scenarios.
Yeah Owen scammed them.
@@du6165 🤬😔
Wwe counter sued Martha during all that ....how low can you get.....I met Owen at an airport once..super nice guy
she was suing them
It's the only way to navigate a shitty legal system.
Counter sued, facts matter.
Business is business, she was out for blood so Vince did what he had to do, Owen Hart's death was a tragic event but at the end of the day he was a grown man, he choose to do the gimmick, he could have refused it if he didn't a Want to do it. Wwf who have punished him by having him job on the house show circuit to what ever wrestler was in home town which was common, releasing him from his contract to be petty, or saying okay we'll drop the gimmick,wcw was a still an option at the time and paying ex wwf stars to steal them from Vince, so Wwf creative would bend over backwards to keep upper level talent happy. I've never experienced the feelings Martha Hart has, so I'm not attacking her for her actions, but Every action has a reaction, Stu, Bret, Natalya, and most of the Hart family accepted Owen's tragedy
@@MrMichaelcampbell425 If your choice is between doing a thing or getting fired with no guarantee of getting another job in your profession, then it's not really a choice.
OWEN FALLS
Vince: "I am never going to financially recover from this."
Brian Pillman has a heart attack
Vince in an interview with his widow on live TV 24 hours after his death "All of us at the World Wrestling Federation are here for you. Now, just how bad was Brian's drug problem???"
That's just it: WWE's insurance covered the lawsuit. They never took a financial hit.
foch41 also Vince: “ well no time to sit around, the show must go on”
It’s a damn shame that Shawn didn’t fall instead. Wrestling would’ve been a better place if he did
George Dillman Well, you cannot wish that on anyone. Not even joking. It is a shame that Owen fell obviously but I cannot say it should have been anybody else. I just wish it was no one.
I am a big fan of Bret Hart, but after listen to this podcast， I would disagree with Brets comment on Martha， she’s as nice as Owen. No one is going to jail for death of Owen Hart, justice is dead!
May I ask who do you think should go to jail for Owen's death? Owen wasn't pushed it wasn't murder
@@arontristan7897 I would argue that the riggers could potentially face criminal liability. It’s been awhile since I read about the case, but if memory serves, the riggers misrepresented their experience and qualifications. They had said they had worked with Sting in WCW and in actuality, one of them was an assistant who was fired, or something to that affect.
Great episode, she's a beautiful person inside and outside. I respect her decisions to not do business with the WWE.
This whole "Dark Side of the Ring" series is just a glorified expose on Vince McMahon. And I'm here for all of it. This has been the common denominator in most of these episodes. I'm sure he's a "swell" guy to his ass kissers, but he's a tyrant to all those not in his group.
It's defintley not just Vince fault.so u blame him for benoit and others really?
So wrestlers take no blame?not talking this Owen situation
@@antliveyabish9555 Yes of course they're accountable but like I said the common theme here for most of the episodes is Vince.
Not the new jack episode. That was a great one
Vince isn't a nice person
She's a really nice person. She is such a sweetheart.
Good on Jericho getting her to talk, I don't think she'll bother with Bret.
Thank you for a great interview. I recently watched an interview Bret made about Owen’s documentary. He said that she would not allow/blocked a lot of his career footage and family photos to be used. I just wish the family could come together. They are all mourning Owen. I could care less about Vince and WWE. He has no morals. To sue a widow is disgusting. He only cares about is profit margin. I just would love to see a full documentary with all the family involved. It is the right way to honor him.
Half of the siblings actively tried to ruin Martha's lawsuit against the WWE for the sole purpose of furthering their own lives. Why on earth would Martha or her children ever come together with them?!
Mr. Jericho I have watched wrestling since I was 4. I remember meeting the Crusher in Milwaukee at a Target store. We did a picture with me on one shoulder and a beer keg on the other. It was CRAZY. I saw Andre the Giant and he scared me. His fingers were the size of my arm...lol. I was a little kid among goliaths. The AWA was my first "show". But then the 80's and the WWF arrived. Mr.T, Hogan, Cyndi Lauper, and the HOT ROD!! Then I saw Ricky Steamboat vs. Randy Savage at WM III. YIKES. Then I saw Ric Flair vs Steamboat in matches that were an hour, another was 45 minutes. Sting also had a couple doozies. My point is the landscape changed so quick. From Nick Bockwinkle vs. Verne Gagne, the High Flyers as Tag Champs, to Hogan and Mr. T. Then the NWA, WCW, whatever you called em had the ironman matches and wow. I was hooked 150% Then I saw a smartmouth kid who I read about in PWI. Who kicked butt in Japan. Chris Jericho....LIONHEART. Your banter, your egomaniacal heel turns were EPIC. Then when you hit the attitude era you floored the gas and never looked back. You created a great persona. Then recreated it. Y2J was epic. Everytime you were counted out BACK YOU CAME AT 1000 MPH. When you "left" WWE and showed in NJPW, I knew you were on another roll. You were incredible AGAIN in your NJPW appearances. Now you were the first AEW Champ. I'm 100% sure you'll be back again. My point again is YOU ARE A LEGEND. What you have done for wrestling is amazing and unsurpassed.
BUT besides the ring work and the AEW stuff you ALSO bring the public INSIDE with you on some very sad issues. From the beginning you were very open about Chris Benoit. That was hard for a fan to see being as I did love his work in the ring. Now your remembering a LEGENDARY wrestler from a LEGENDARY FAMILY. Owen Hart. The Hart Foundation was my favorite Tag team in the 80's. LOD was good too...lol. But he Hart's are wrestling royalty.
I want to THANK YOU for having this interview. I know the intent was information, but I can't help but LOSE SO MUCH respect for Vince and the WWE. I just can't stomach that greed. It's sickening. Thank you again for being the BEST IN THE WORLD AT WHAT YOU DO. YOU ROCK CHRIS!!!!!
Edster III
I like this comment . More than once .
yea i gotta say..not knowing that Vince sued Martha, but thought that Vince was doing his legal responsibilities based on lawyer advice etc...
but after all these years and the stories of what Vince seems to really be like,
i have a hard time reconciling my love for the last 35 years of watching WWF/WWE, with knowing its run by just...such a selfish, jealous child of a man who has a level of Pettiness that rivals any top notch kayfabe heel run.
I dont think i give 2 shits about the future of the company known as WWE.
Its the talent that matters.
Jericho.
Thx brother. You are a light in the darkness of Pro Wrestling.
please dont die for a long long time.
@@killwalker Vince and trump are sum crooked business man smh.
@@MrOrlandodh12 i would have to agree.
(although Hillary is way worse)
@@killwalker yea hilary is treacherous and sneaky. Trump is blatant and shaky but consistent. Vince and trump is the same person different personality. Vince play the heel in wrestling so well that it actually is him in real life lol.
I am so happy I defended Martha while everyone else talked about how greedy and petty she is. I knew there was more to the story than we were hearing and she was not out to destroy her husband's legacy, not even unconsciously. Please remember that WWE killed Owen and this is his wife. Just keep that in perspective. Owen wanted to retire very shortly before he died. He saved his money like crazy so he could, he wanted to be with his family, not a dinosaur in the business.
Owen Hart does NOT have to get into HoF to be recognized as a legend. People will remember him no matter what, and they will be haunted and bitterly saddened by the circumstances of his death. HoF should never be the standard by which we measure whether someone has "made it". Owen is a legend and everyone knows it.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back too hard there...a lot of people have realized all along how horrible what happened to Owen must have been for her and her children, and people who would judge her for that need a little reality check about what's important in life.
Hes in the real HOF. The pro wrestling HOF which is more prestigious
@@jcaceres516 yup, I saw that
I'm so glad shes finally been able to tell her story and SHAME on people who made her out to be this mean evil lady FOR YEARS! Vince McMahon is a disgusting human being!
The way she handled the WWE's Hart & Soul DVD and sued them made it easy for people to hate her last decade
Vince and WWE can't comment on the case. The only people that made her out to be some sort of monster are the fans.
@@dkmenace1990 It's my understanding that they can't use Owen to promote their product as a condition of the settlement. Using him to sell DVDs sounds like a violation to me.
Shut up you don’t know anything
It's amazing that THIS is the turning point for some of the people in the comments. Like, seriously, did you not see how Vince treated Melanie Pillman?
Better late than never, I guess.
Brian Pillman Jr. supposedly said she was a bad person who only cared about partying. I think it's apples to oranges here. Should Vince have done it, no, but I would not be surprised one bit if she made a push for the interview.
I'm very happy you are an expert m8, but how much did you do knowing all this damming information? Did you financially help or just preach how great you are knowing the said information? Sad
@@deanrobbins7823 What was I supposed to do, sue Vince? Track down Martha or Melanie and hand over some cash? Why am I the bad guy for recognizing how big a piece of shit Vince McMahon is earlier than some?
Never really tracked the lawsuit between WWE and Owens wife but I'm absolutely not surprised. Nobody can convince me otherwise the WWE does not care about its Talent does not care about people. But I said the WWE I'm pretty much referring the ass clown that is known as Vince McMahon
What is so sad about her lawsuit outside of owens death is how it affected the family. Looking back it’s so sad that the majority of the Hart family took the WWFs side against her primarily out of self interest and fear of making the WWF angry and harming their potential chances of working there in the future. She mentions how some of the family actually would steal her documents to send to the WWF to sabotage her lawsuit which is genuinely so damn sad to do. I believe I read that after the case settled of the ten Hart children she was only on speaking terms with three of them including Bret. And eventually she and Bret fell out because she didn’t get his footage for him and has taken her stance against Owen in the HOF. It’s so sad that some siblings actively assisted those who were responsible for their brother dying . Martha’s stance can be unfortunate because everyone would love him in the HOF but it’s entirely understandable why she takes her stance and in the end I can’t fault that. She doesn’t owe it to us to let those responsible for his death profit from him so that fans can spend a day enjoying him going into the public image HOF.
Can't wait for this episode on Tuesday night... Wow
For people saying Owen should go to the WWE HOF, maybe listening to this will awaken some people. Even the freakin Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame is more legitimate than the crappy excuse of the WWE Hall of Fame.
Vince in every Wrestling HOF
Let's not get too hasty with the Observer. Better to bring up Cauliflower Alley
Martha isn't the only one who despises the WWE Hall of Fame. Sabu and Scott Steiner have also trashed it.
Thank you Jericho. Bringing back the modern wrestling crowd and introducing it to the next generation. Keep up what your doing, your career will go on forever as an announcer when you retire from in ring matches. Best there ever will be, you always are paying respect to past and fallen wrestlers and those unspoken without a voice being heard through you. Thanks for the subtle tributes that the avg Joe might not realise you do when you work to Eddie Chris Dean and multiple others. You 4 are/were the real 4 horsemen. Please bring back more legends, if you could bring Perry Saturn back as a manager that would be the biggest gesture to give back to the wrestlers of old. His life story alone is amazing how he turned around his life and is a real case of what concussions and CTE can do to people. I have heard him talk about how he gets migraines and pains and cloudy thought. Anyways thanks Chris, never change who you are. The Ultimate heel, yet gracious as a Face, I have no other word for it other than Le Champion.
To be honest
WWF should've released Owen with his brother Bret in its first place in 1997
Vince has no sense of loyalty, breaking his word and handshakes to gobble up the old wrestling territories. The Hearts should have known that. It's nothing short of a tradgedy.one was buried and the other was killed. His product is killing the old art of wrestling from the carnival days where real shooters protected the business.
They were petty after Montreal. Then Russo out pranked him.
Apparently Owen tried to leave, but didn't push it after hearing from Bret what an absolute mess WCW was and Bret didn't push him to leave because he knew he had a family and didn't want to risk him taking a pay cut or burning his bridges with WWF and not having a job going forward.
Such a shame this is the result.
@Darrell Williams So was Shawn Michaels IMAO. He "lost his smile".
bret hart wasn't released his contract with wwf was up and he signed with WCW but owen hart didn't
We don't need the hall of fame. We know Owen was a huge talent and should have been in the world title picture. Not flying around the roof.
I'm glad Martha is at Peace and keeps Owen's amazing memory alive! #RIPOwenHart
As much as i love wrestling, the loss of a loved one is so much bigger. In her mind, and mine, wwe did this and is responsible. I wouldnt want them to make a dime off of his image. Who cares about the hall of fame. Trump and kid rock are in it. Owens legacy as a good man speaks for itself, and that is larger than any profession. Owens Hall of Fame are his two great children, loving wife, and every person who cannot say one bad thing about him. Bret lives for acknowledgement and attention, he cant understand this. Legacy isnt found in a wwe ring and doesnt have to be acknowledged by vince mcmahon.
Trump and Kid Rock are the best inductees they have had! #MAGA 2020
I don't fully feel they care responsible per se. Not with the fervour that others do. He put a. Stop on an angle that had himkissing another girl. He could have said "Hell no" strong enough to not do it.
@@shaolin1derpalm i guess i just feel like its not so much the stunt itself, those are done often, but the shortcuts that were taken in the equipment, the person that supervised it, and all around professionalism. That is on wwe in my opinion.
@@m.bowman2841 fair enough
This is another Awesome job Chris. Dr. Martha was extremely polite and friendly. I wonder did Chris ask off air about her reaction to Mark Henry’s sweet words and invitation to the HOF?
Owen sounds like a real person. I miss him and he didn't deserve what happened to him. The price of fame 😔
Thank You Martha!!! RIP OWEN
Saw a very young Owen Hart wrestle Iron Mike Sharpe in July 1988. He lead off the card at Humber Gardens in Corner Brook, NL.
LEGEND.
Rip Owen Hart, as a 29 year old growing up watching WWF, I think about him often.
love you Chris RIP Owen!
I think Martha is an incredible woman. She is strong, and loyal, and classy. We should all be so lucky to have a Martha Hart of our own.
I never knew that they sued Martha.
What kind of person does what they did, they're responsible for his death and they sue the grieving widow... they know these people at a personal level too. That's one of the most despicable things I've heard.
That's Captialism for you
This looks good👍.
Jericho fears Ryback
I loved it when you quoted Owen Hart on WWE TV, I think while receiving a slammy. I was a fan of yours ever since that.
Millions of wrestling fans can't wait for this.
Hi Ryback
Big man we need your honest opinion on this ropic...
Hope Vice should also the next Dark Side of the Ring episode
The Rise and Fall of Chyna
The Dark story of Vince Mcmahon
You'd need entire seasons to cover Vince.
Vince probably will have at least 22 episodes
They should do a dark side on the ring of Pat Patterson in the sexual harassment
Vince would have them locked up in litigation for the next hundred years if they tried to do an episode on him. They would have a C&D on them before his name finished coming out their lips.
Vince McMahon's kiss my ass club
Admittedly I never knew much about Owen or Martha. Started watching wrestling in 2000 at 9 years old. Never got to enjoy Owens work except from watching it back now online. His story is so unfair, taken so early, and Marthas strength is so amazing. Never even knew the family fought against her helping Vince. So disappointing.
The only saving grace is Owens foundation, such a good idea and a great cause. His name already would have never been forgotten but now he can give back to the world even after he is gone. Can't really ask for much more than that in the end.
Chris Jericho is just an amazing human in soo many ways.. Thanks for all that you do for everyone but yourself brother
I have a feeling after next Tuesday alot of people will be done with wwe
What's next tuesday?
@@XxShadowGTxX The dark side of the ring episode about Owen hart
cj perry
Probably not
You’d be surprised at how short people’s memories are
It's not going to stop nothing..
One episode shouldnt effect a show.
RIP Owen Hart 💜 What a GREAT Man he was !!!
Show how evil Vince is suing Martha even though he intentionally killed Owen just because he wouldn’t sell his soul to the company. I’m glad Martha got her justice plus her settlement, I understand why she allowed AEW to do a tournament named after Owen instead of WWE
I saw an old clip of Bret talking about her and saying she was ruining his legacy. I never understood why he didn’t see her pain.
*insert Mr. Krabs* " Money"
He did see her pain and share it and he stood by her side throughout the entire lawsuit. It wasn't until many many years later after the lawsuit was settled that the 2 of them found their differences.
Brets career was over and he wanted to move on to the next chapter which involved Vince McMahon and WWE and she was angry with him about doing so.
He wanted Owen Hart involved because Brets WWE run involved Owen alot but Martha was not willing to allow that.
So Bret did it anyway and they have been fighting about it ever since
I think he just want's people to remember his brother's legacy. That's all Owen has now but only old school fans really know who he is. In the end she lost a husband and there kids lost a dad, and he lost a brother, sad.
@Darrell Williams u sound special needs log off
@@finalflash6074 I've heard him explain it pretty much like this in a number of interviews
I wish Owen Hart was in the WWE Hall Of Fame with his dad, his brother and his brother in laws but I can kinda understand why he isn't
It just shows how WWE REALLY IS
Classic Chris Jericho And Awesome Interview Today With Martha Hart!!🙌🙌🐐🙏🙏🙏
After watching those 'dark side of the ring' and hearing this...Vince McMahon is basically the devil in a suit. I am so glad he is failing and loosing money right now even though he deserves much worse.
Vince is not the devil he is a millionaire
He’s a Republican, so yeah.
Destin Holland stop fucking dreaming Vince is fucking evil
Vince is cool
It's really refreshing to hear Martha's side of the story. What she has been through is heartbreaking. Owen's death is so tragic, and from all accounts he sounded like a great guy.
Vince AND the Hart family should be ashamed of themselves. Martha is an amazing wife and person in general, the fact that he married such a beautiful, caring and intelligent woman is a testament to how great a guy Owen was. He'd be so proud of her I'm sure.
Thank you!
Johnathon Kelly Owens legacy will never be remembered, he’ll never be in the hall of fame, he’ll never be fully recognised on wwe tv and his storied career will have no impact in the next 25 years and it’s because she refuses to let them. I hope HHH works it out with her somehow
Bret supported her during the lawsuits and became upset with her when she cut off contact with him and his parents. The other family members acted like trash but Bret had her back during this time.
Been waiting for this thanks y2j
Owen Hart was such a big talent that was such a part of my childhood , but hearing other people talk about the real Owen you realise what a good guy he was ❤
I got to meet owen hart and Dwayne Johnson in san diego 20 years ago. I was more excited to meet a hart then a rock.
21 years ago or 20 years ago
@@morningstar7896 I couldn't tell you. My buddy work at the sweet factory cart at the sports area. He gave me a work shirt and sneak me in a hour and a half before it open. So we run into the king and ask him for a autograph and he says no😬. We are cool and went on about 20mins pass and my buddy needs to set up the cart and it's next to the payphone and the king on it. It looks at us and turns his back.my buddy open his cart and the king is still on the phone looks at the candy and his face lit up. We got that auto and the king got candy.😁
Now I totally understand why she would never want Owen to be put in the WWE HOF cause Vince just want to make buck off her late husbends name After all they did to her as well
Is this a clip of a longer interview/ podcast? If so, what is the title for this episode? I tried scrolling through the videos and I didn’t see anything. Btw Chris you’re so good at doing interviews. I’m a huge Howard fan and think he’s the best interviewer imo. But Jericho has me hooked. Never talks over ppl (in the stuff I’ve heard) and keeps the topics and conversations going 👍
Thanks bud.
Shes a doctor, shes not stupid and WWE thought she was. She is really amazing and shows that she loved Owen and didnt care about getting a bunch of money to stay quiet