A brilliant further explanation of how manual photographing is more enjoyable to a knowledgeable , and capable , photographer , than can be found with Auto-everything cameras . Becky showed how the feeling of the lens was all encompassing . Loved this . In early 1970`s I owned a Voigtlander 35mm camera , which was so good , it very nearly prevented me from becoming a Nikon man . But of course then came the F2 . and Peace on earth !!!!
I am loving both of my MF Voigtlander 50 F/1 and the 35 f/1.2 lenses and on my Zf they have brought me out of my shooting slump. Love them! So sharp and colors and character are superb. and doing the manual engages me in a way that I love, and the all metal construction with the Zf brings me back to my film days without the hassles.
yes, Becky, the peaking is more of a guide to depth of field, the most precise focus lock is the AF point, (if you want it really precise, use the fine box, under the single point option set); traditionally this is because you are using the descrete AF sensor/computer inside to do the calculations, and it has the object database to help as well; but importantly, the other peaking is most likely additive to the LV system, so is basing this decision making on the jpeg image ( the LV and histogram are raw data converted to jpeg before it appears on the lcd display), so this prior decision making on contrast, colour etc. has been made by the processor already, so the peaking is NOT directly calculating on RAW data, but processed data, so is reliant on this decision making to be correct, for it to judge the scene correctly.
I really enjoy all of your videos. Want to note that the format where one of you takes photos and then both join for commentary is especially enjoyable and nice. More of that in my opinion.
I have a few of the Z set for a z fc as my only lenses. I don't even use peaking most of the time, since you get focus confirmation with those lenses on Z bodies (you get the light in the focus square and can see the little triangles to know if you're too far or too close focus wise, like DSLRS). Set it to auto with focus release priority and you get a focus trap setup. Hold the shutter while racking focus, and it'll fire the shutter the moment it lands focus confirmation.
I find Becky’s observation of the focus peeking to be spot on. The color outline gives me information about what would be in “acceptable” focus while the green box shows that the subject is in optional focus. Great review of this lens. I love these unique options.
I've bought some Sony E mount fully manual lenses through the years, and had to use magnification because focus peaking has never been reliable. I have adapted all of these lenses to my Nikon now, the green box is way for reliable, even with the lens like the Mitakon 50mm f/0.95.
I too have the 58mm and can speak for its image fidelity. Not only on a full frame body but on Dx as well. The 58mm on my z 50 is an 85mm equivalent in focal length making it perfect for slowed down portrait/Street photography
Excellent presentation from the Southbank and I can appreciate the hard work that goes into this, the DoF demo was very interesting, and a great set of photos, I was in the same area recently, well done
Vaguely on topic, but if anyone is looking for somethign wide and bright for the Zfc or Z50, I've been using an adapted version of the Rokinon 12mm NCS CS and it's unreasonably sharp. Not retro styled like the Voigtlanders, but I bet it'd still look nice on the Zfc and it's a heck of a lot smaller (and maybe sharper...) than the adapted 10-20mm AF-P.
What a nice lens! Of course, these are exactly the kind of lenses Nikon should be making themselves for Z mount... they've got the 'back catalogue', they've got the heritage. Meanwhile, I'm sure Grays have got the Nikkor secondhand stock, and FTZ adaptors...?!
Great review. Question: Isn’t the point of having an aperture like 1.2 being able to actually use 1.2? It seems that many reviewers make excuses for lenses having aperture settings that are unusable. Of course, that is why lenses like the Z 50 1.2 are so expensive. You actually have a useable 1.2! Love your interactive give and take in your reviews! BTW, I have the Voightlander 40mm f1.2 with the z mount, and I love it!
Low aperture lenses are usually better in quality than variable aperture. However the images at their lowest values are often on - usable I.e. they have to be stepped down
I have the Voiglander Nocton Classic 35mm f1.4 with an Urth Leica M to Nikon Z adapter. Excellent lens with film or the Z711 but I do not see the focus indicator turning to green to confirm focus. Peaking is good but should the focus confirmation box turn green as with my Nikon Autofocus lens?
Hi John, only the lenses natively made for the Z line up (or those with a chip on the lens mount) will show that focus confirmation unfortunately. If your lens does have a chip on the mount to communicate EXIF data then it may be the adapter that is causing the issue. The beauty of these new Voigtlander native Z lenses is that there's no interference from an adapter so the lenses communicate straight to the body.
Great video I enjoyed it it's kind of hard to tell what's a good lens and what isn't in the hands of you too because the shots that you always take our fantastic. I mean you're not going to stand there and say hey look at this crap. Your photos are always great. Kon why is it no matter what lens that you're shooting like that deep down I know you want the Z 50 mm 1.2 and I don't blame you either. Becky I'm here in Florida and I have to laugh what happened to that sunburned girl well slightly pink anyway that did a month from a hotel room in Florida and now look at you bundled up in an Overcoat and pale you have all the tan of a glass of milk. Sad just so sad. It was in the 90s this week here.
The problem with the Z 50 & the Zfc is no in body stabilization. I love my Z 50, but to be a camera built in 2022, its retarded that Nikon would even build it without IBS. Of course the want to sell me a Z 60...when it comes out. AS for the voigtlander? If its that soft until F 2 , who needs it, they missed the point as well.
Why the decision to test this lens on an APSC body? If this is a full frame lens, then you are ONLY testing the central part of it's full frame image circle and excluding everything beyond.
@@Cotictimmy The two new Voigtlander DX lenses for the Z mount, the 35mm f/1.2 reviewed here and the 23 mm f/1.2 in a newer review, are also made for the Fuji x mount with the same optics in a different body design.
A brilliant further explanation of how manual photographing is more enjoyable to a knowledgeable , and capable , photographer , than can be found with Auto-everything cameras . Becky showed how the feeling of the lens was all encompassing . Loved this . In early 1970`s I owned a Voigtlander 35mm camera , which was so good , it very nearly prevented me from becoming a Nikon man . But of course then came the F2 . and Peace on earth !!!!
I am loving both of my MF Voigtlander 50 F/1 and the 35 f/1.2 lenses and on my Zf they have brought me out of my shooting slump. Love them! So sharp and colors and character are superb. and doing the manual engages me in a way that I love, and the all metal construction with the Zf brings me back to my film days without the hassles.
Came here to ask the same question, the 50 is 4x the price so would love the 35mm to be half as good at least
yes, Becky, the peaking is more of a guide to depth of field, the most precise focus lock is the AF point, (if you want it really precise, use the fine box, under the single point option set); traditionally this is because you are using the descrete AF sensor/computer inside to do the calculations, and it has the object database to help as well; but importantly, the other peaking is most likely additive to the LV system, so is basing this decision making on the jpeg image ( the LV and histogram are raw data converted to jpeg before it appears on the lcd display), so this prior decision making on contrast, colour etc. has been made by the processor already, so the peaking is NOT directly calculating on RAW data, but processed data, so is reliant on this decision making to be correct, for it to judge the scene correctly.
I really enjoy all of your videos. Want to note that the format where one of you takes photos and then both join for commentary is especially enjoyable and nice. More of that in my opinion.
I have a few of the Z set for a z fc as my only lenses. I don't even use peaking most of the time, since you get focus confirmation with those lenses on Z bodies (you get the light in the focus square and can see the little triangles to know if you're too far or too close focus wise, like DSLRS). Set it to auto with focus release priority and you get a focus trap setup. Hold the shutter while racking focus, and it'll fire the shutter the moment it lands focus confirmation.
I find Becky’s observation of the focus peeking to be spot on. The color outline gives me information about what would be in “acceptable” focus while the green box shows that the subject is in optional focus. Great review of this lens. I love these unique options.
Yep, I don't rely on focus peaking at all. When I want to fine tune my focus manually, I just zoom in digitally in the viewfinder and lock the focus.
@@kaminobatto that is probably the most reliable technique.
I've bought some Sony E mount fully manual lenses through the years, and had to use magnification because focus peaking has never been reliable.
I have adapted all of these lenses to my Nikon now, the green box is way for reliable, even with the lens like the Mitakon 50mm f/0.95.
Put the recent Voigtlander F- mount lenses on a Df for the ultimate retro look. All their F lenses give amazing rendering, esp. the 58mm.
I too have the 58mm and can speak for its image fidelity. Not only on a full frame body but on Dx as well. The 58mm on my z 50 is an 85mm equivalent in focal length making it perfect for slowed down portrait/Street photography
Excellent presentation from the Southbank and I can appreciate the hard work that goes into this, the DoF demo was very interesting, and a great set of photos, I was in the same area recently, well done
Thanks for this review, it was very useful. I think it might be the only review of the Nikon version on the entire internet lol.
Vaguely on topic, but if anyone is looking for somethign wide and bright for the Zfc or Z50, I've been using an adapted version of the Rokinon 12mm NCS CS and it's unreasonably sharp. Not retro styled like the Voigtlanders, but I bet it'd still look nice on the Zfc and it's a heck of a lot smaller (and maybe sharper...) than the adapted 10-20mm AF-P.
Becky/Kon, please review the upcoming Voigtlander D 23mm F1.2. Great video.
What a nice lens! Of course, these are exactly the kind of lenses Nikon should be making themselves for Z mount... they've got the 'back catalogue', they've got the heritage. Meanwhile, I'm sure Grays have got the Nikkor secondhand stock, and FTZ adaptors...?!
Great review. Question: Isn’t the point of having an aperture like 1.2 being able to actually use 1.2? It seems that many reviewers make excuses for lenses having aperture settings that are unusable. Of course, that is why lenses like the Z 50 1.2 are so expensive. You actually have a useable 1.2! Love your interactive give and take in your reviews! BTW, I have the Voightlander 40mm f1.2 with the z mount, and I love it!
Becky and Konstantin thank for another great and practical video. You make me jealous because I love to do street photography in London.
Low aperture lenses are usually better in quality than variable aperture.
However the images at their lowest values are often on - usable
I.e. they have to be stepped down
Great looking lens
Look forward to the 50mm full frame review👌
Would this mount onto a Zf without an adapter
I have the Voiglander Nocton Classic 35mm f1.4 with an Urth Leica M to Nikon Z adapter. Excellent lens with film or the Z711 but I do not see the focus indicator turning to green to confirm focus. Peaking is good but should the focus confirmation box turn green as with my Nikon Autofocus lens?
Hi John, only the lenses natively made for the Z line up (or those with a chip on the lens mount) will show that focus confirmation unfortunately. If your lens does have a chip on the mount to communicate EXIF data then it may be the adapter that is causing the issue. The beauty of these new Voigtlander native Z lenses is that there's no interference from an adapter so the lenses communicate straight to the body.
So this is equivalent to a 50mm focal length?
No?
If this 35mm is any good it is a very interested lens indeed
Nice review!
is this lens for apsc only
Hi, yes it's an APS-C Z lens
@@graysofwestminster ok. Thanks
Great video I enjoyed it it's kind of hard to tell what's a good lens and what isn't in the hands of you too because the shots that you always take our fantastic. I mean you're not going to stand there and say hey look at this crap. Your photos are always great. Kon why is it no matter what lens that you're shooting like that deep down I know you want the Z 50 mm 1.2 and I don't blame you either. Becky I'm here in Florida and I have to laugh what happened to that sunburned girl well slightly pink anyway that did a month from a hotel room in Florida and now look at you bundled up in an Overcoat and pale you have all the tan of a glass of milk. Sad just so sad. It was in the 90s this week here.
Maybe Nikon will release a 35 f1.2. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe soon. Please.
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The problem with the Z 50 & the Zfc is no in body stabilization. I love my Z 50, but to be a camera built in 2022, its retarded that Nikon would even build it without IBS. Of course the want to sell me a Z 60...when it comes out. AS for the voigtlander? If its that soft until F 2 , who needs it, they missed the point as well.
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Why the decision to test this lens on an APSC body? If this is a full frame lens, then you are ONLY testing the central part of it's full frame image circle and excluding everything beyond.
This is a DX / APSC lens
@@kostonk Thanks Kon. In that case, I owe you guys an apology. I am behind the times as I was not aware Voigtlander had produced any DX lenses.
@@Cotictimmy The two new Voigtlander DX lenses for the Z mount, the 35mm f/1.2 reviewed here and the 23 mm f/1.2 in a newer review, are also made for the Fuji x mount with the same optics in a different body design.