Unown really feels like it would fit in the “joke Pokémon that’s a pain to evolve but their evolution is amazing” category but they just forgot to put in an evolution. Combining them all into a huge behemoth would be the perfect way to handle that but I guess Unown aren’t good enough for something that clever lol
In the movie focused on Unknown they were shown to be really powerful in a large swarm, so the idea of collecting all the forms and you can then do some quest to in the ruins to combine/evolve them into a swarm called "Enigma" that has very strong base stats and a strong signature ability. (Based on the whole creating things they did in the movie) Or maybe the letter you evolve on levelup has form specific base stats, and once you have all the forms any unknown will evolve on next level up but this doesn't count as a form so you need to recatch that letter to evolve another. Its just such a missed opportunity to follow through on the mystery of the Unkown.
@@jasonreed7522 Even smash bros used the swarm of unown as its summon. Always thought they would follow up on it since both the movie and those games showed it in action
The mechanic should be: When your unown hits lvl20, all unown in your party try to merge in the order they are in in your inventory. It needs to form a real 3-5 letter word from a pre-made list or it fails. The more letters it has, the better it's stats.
"I don't think we've ever had a good Water Ground type in the format" True, except the one that has consistently been great in VGC almost every generation since it's creation. Gastrodon looks on in disgust.
Tropius is one of my favourite designs in the series, honestly I wish it was just better instead of giving it an evolution. I would love to see a Castform evolution, perhaps called Disastform and based on natural disasters.
@@locten4949 Forecast still seems fine, especially if it is just upgrading Castform's forms - Sunny to Drought, Rainy to Monsoon, Hail to Snowstorm. However, they could also change the wording back to the vaguer variation it used to have which did not specify Fire, Water and Ice, in which case they could add a Sandstorm Disastform.
Make tropious Dragon/Grass and give it thick fat or something like that to reduce that crippling ice weakness. It won't be broken but it will certainly be better
imo Castform's different forms should have higher stats than the base form. With no weather, leave it at all base 80's, but give it a Stat boost when weather is up
i always thought that it should have an ability like pixilate that makes all normal type moves a different type depending on the weather. basically just like weather ball but for all normal-type moves
How about a whacky idea like this. Castform base everything 80 except speed 100, he's a speedy boy. But the ability is under weather he changes form, type, and a stat boosts by 20 and his speed decreases by 20. Sun - atk up Sand - def up Rain - sp.def up Ice - sp.atk up Which stat for which weather condition can be tweaked. I'm trying to think of something dynamic but not too complex...
They pretty much did this in emerald kaizo, bst buff actross the board, i think its base 100 in each, and its actually relatively threatening and not a complete joke
@@charliez077 tbh, Absol mostly needs to not be in the "mediocre ass speed+super frail" club i vote for making it actually have speed sice that'd be easier to do
@@gypsysprite4824 yup. for me it needs a boost in speed so that it can realibly use night slash+super luck. with its speed it needs sucker punch always. not that night slash would 100% replace sucker punch, but both could be used together. night slash the main and sucker punch the garanteed priority when needed. Also a unique move that crits... maybe one that is equal to night slash in everyway, but with a priority point or 2.
I'd say a good half of these mons just need to be overall buffed purely in stats and maybe also with better abilities. While the other half (of the likes of Dunsparce) could most certainly get both better and cooler with an Evolution.
Rather than buffing them all, something like leagues divided by total stats could give them a chance to shine with their particular abilities. In Pokemon GO stuff like Tropius or Whiscash are pretty strong in their leagues and having that combined with the abilities and movepools from the MSG could make for a cool format
@@ACLozMusik Are you suggesting something like how singles has “tiers” for its format (OU, UU, etc)? That could be interesting for VGC but don’t hold your breath on it fixing everything, there are Pokémon so bad that they aren’t even usable in the lowest singles format
There should’ve been another tier called “needs variant.” Sometimes if you change the stats around, or switch up the typing that can be enough to at least be viable.
Magneton, hands down. The individual Magnemite don't get along, and the whole "everyone's electronics stopped working" and "metal things are sticking to you" thing is great for physical comedy.
I feel like we just went through the lost and found bin of pokemon. I would love to see stat redistributions for a lot of the ones you mentioned. Give these guys some love!
Dhelmise might fall into the "too strong" bin but love the concept of giving it triple stab and would be awesome to see it evolve into a whole sunken ghost barge
Lord knows why it's grass type tho. Like, he's obviously steel/water/ghost. Imagine water ghost w/ steel stab or ghost steel w/ water stab or even water steel w/ ghost stab lol. Just slap some seaweed on this mfer and he's a grass type
@@dankeykang8243 If i recall, the seaweed is the pokemon, not the anchor. Dhelmise is pretty much a Ghost/Grass seaweed pokemon that just so happened to wrap around an anchor that it swings around like a weapon.
It would be cool if Pokemon that already look fully evolved, like Tropius and Furfrou, could instead receive major stat buffs and gain a pre-evolution instead. It would be great if a lot of the Pika-clones received proper evos. Emolga in particular is a mon I wish was better than it is, Electric/Flying is a pretty dope type combo that's only shared by Rotom Fan and Zapdos.
Honestly, with regional variants, they could make them regionals of Pikachu that evolve from Pichu. You could then consolodate a few, like Pachirisu into Emolga and give Emolga a buff to match Raichu.
I think umfezant would be usable if it was ground/flying. They're based on pheasants, birds who like to hang out on the ground. And they look like they'd be ground to me Edit: Give carnivine an ability that has a binding band built in, give it snap trap and make it steel/grass it would've be a great mon
I disagree with the unfezant take that mom is clearly a normal type and idk if it should change. Also carnivine would be great with a built in binding band and access to taunt
@@justaliljello5198Well it could go either way personally it seems like a ground type as well. Like I said pheasants are birds that like to be on the ground and if you look at their stomach patterns they have ground like appearance imo
Carnivine should get an ability that makes it immune to bug types and hurting Pokemon using bug contact moves on it. It’s a Venus fly trap, its whole niche should be a grass type that beats bug types
Feels like GameFreak just made Excadrill instead and called it a day (for which I am not complaining since I love Excadrill but I agree Sandslash and many other mons could use some buffs)
A cast form Evolution that could get double typings based on combinations of weather and terrains would be insane. Like Ground/Psychic, Fire/Grass, Fairy/Ice would all be hella interesting.
Unknown should evolve into a legitimized version of missingno. If they could be willing to be tongue in cheek with it I think it could easily be a fan favorite pokemon. Give it a unique ability or move and it could be super fun. Hopefully they decide to do SOMETHING with unknown in the future. It could be really cool to have the evolved form be based off of which letters you have in your party, there are so many cool directions they could take it.
I think that pokemon without three stages evolutionary line shouldn't get mega or gigantimax form because it would be weird to give them a permanent evolution if they remove this features from the game
Pretty much agree with you said If it happens to Pokémon with Gigantamax (already NFE Pokémon to brgin with) regarding new evos, it can eventually happens to Pokémon with Mega Evolution, since Mega Evolution is not part of Earth’s nature and come from unearthly origin, not unlike Dynamax. Doesn’t help Dynamax is way more powerful despite the three turn limites, anyways
I'd love for Lumineon to get an evolution. Make it a fast, bulky utility Pokémon with attack stats that are usable but not great. In terms of typing, it'd obviously stay Water type, and maybe pick up Flying type? It's like the only non Flying type that naturally learns Gust, just ... do something with it. Go all the way with the wing fins, draw inspiration from flying fish? Give it cool status moves like Whirlwind in addition to it's ridiculous status movepool (Tailwind, Defog, Sweet Kiss, etc.) and call it a day.
I don't actually think that it needs an evolution but either better stats or better coverage. It's supposed to be a glowing, bottom of the sea living fish, yet they never gave it anything that interacts with it. Give it Tailglow or something. That way it could serve as sort of a sweeper in rain teams without being broken because even with a triple boost the special attack of it is less then stellar. Or better coverage so it can punish water types when it switches in to soak up an attack with storm drain. Or let it lean more into the support category. Until now it basically only has tailwind and defog for that It can't even Toxic trap enemies anymore with Whirlpool and Toxic, so there aren't many movesets that it can use. It only does everything a little bit, but none of it good. So imo an evolution is not the solution here but a better and more coherent moveset that actually gives it a nieche. And maybe a stat buff of, like, 20 depending on what it ends up being. Better offensive coverage to make use of stormdrain? 20 more base in special attack. Better support moves? 20 more in either of the defenses and/or hit points so it can set up a tailwind, survive the turn and U-turn out. Or go in to defog hazards and then U-Turn out. Rn either is pretty much a kamikaze act. It doesn't need to be top tier, but at least make it usable somehow
I think that many of these Pokémon would need a pre-evo. Like absol's pre-evo with the stats of absol and then the actual absol with buffed stats. Hope it's understandable.
"Its not bulky enough o be a tank, it doesn't have the support to be a supportive mon and it doesnt have the offence to actually....play the game" -WOLFEY ON TROPIUS
The only thing it has are our hearts, its design is the epitomy of a unique and creative pokemon, it just doesn't have good stuff under the hood. Gamefreak has definitely failed many potentially good pokemon by garbage move pools or misaligned base stats, especially in gens 1-3 before the split special and physical apart from type.
Or it should have an ability that gives it the Explosion we used to have in Gen II - IV. Then it would actually be used. Even with Electrode's low Attack (and an evolution would probably have a higher attack), it was really, really strong.
9:05 Honestly Delibirb has so much potential with higher speed and *Snow Warning* it has *Aurora Veil* , *Memento* and *Rapid spin* it get such cool moves like that and it might turn into a bigger birb and get *U-turn* aswell. Edit: 9:54 Has anyone realised the Regieleki is practically just a buffed electrode?
Honestly, I remember when in gen 7 they buffed soooo many mon BST and adjusted movesets, and I'd love even more of that come gen 9. Like, dex of 300-400, but a bunch of them could get revamped movesets, stats, abilities and meaningful options and that would be rad.
Mantine is an exceptional special defensor in singles and has a pretty good movepool. Learns haze, roost, toxic, defog, ice beam, scald, etc. He can even survive to a non STAB thunderbolt from most of the special attackers in the singles' meta (he survives to a x4 thunderbolt from a 252SpA modest Gengar). He is in NU because Chansey and Toxapest exist but he's great in his role.
Honestly, Carnivine getting an evolution where it grows more heads from its core like an irl Venus Flytrap would be insanely cool. Maybe either Grass/Dragon like a hydra or Grass/Electric since irl they rely on signals from the hairs in their traps to eat? Similar idea with Maractus. Make it grow more like irl cacti, maybe a few more arms and Grass/Fire or something?
Would love for Ursaring to get an evolution since it's my favorite 2-stage evolutionary line, but the only games it's been put in (without being a post-game or trade-only afterthought) are Gold and Soul Silver. It's one of the longest-neglected lines, so I have little hope. 🙃
If you're ever jonesing for some quick and easy content, I'd like to see smaller videos focusing on bad 'mons like in this list going into why they're bad and how you would buff them to be viable and distinct in VGC. You get a lot of videos like that from non-competitive type 'tubers which usually leave me feeling "that would be broken" or "that would still suck."
WolfeyVGC:All these Pokemon have a unique ability like... *Repeats unique ability till he reaches Delibird* ... Um you know... *Continues with repeating unique ability.* Delibird: Why am I so useless?
I don't understand how gamefreak can seemingly spend a lot of time making a pokemon with an intersting gimmick (like komala or castform) but somehow make it non-functional in battle. "Unfinished" seems pretty apt because a lot of these pokemon just feel like incomplete ideas
it would be so cool if castform gets an evolution with maybe base 80-90 in all stats and forecast 2.0 that not only includes sand but also terrain and maybe if we go really crazy it gets dual typing if terrain and weather is up at the same time.
@@buhgingo2933 it has 90 base spec attack and has support role moves like healbell (to remove toxic from your entire team at once) and it can use psychic to hit very hard. The only thing bad he had to say about it was that legendaries/mythicals like cresselia do its job better.
At least Spinda has the memes. They gave Delibird and Luvdisc 330 without giving them a gimmick to match (like they did for Ditto, Smeargle, and Shedinja, all of whom have an even lower BST)
Cherrim also deserves one, it's already strong, good movepool, awesome ability, but god those stats. It needs an evolution with the same ability to make it atleast somewhat meta and make it even cuter :3
I've had conversations with people and though I think it would be cool, I am in the camp that it would be too broken. Give Shuckle an evolution. I think that if that were to happen Shuckle would become an insane pokemon with Eviolite.
@@sptflcrw8583 Mega evolution give it Stance Change as an ability, with non attacking moves making it defensive, with 60 points going into HP. That would be fun and broken as all heck.
I wish the Pokémon company was okay with just changing stat totals. Like I don’t want Ledian to get an evolution, I think it’s a really cool design. What it needs is like 100 more base stats and maybe a different typing.
I don't really know why we need to give these Pokemon an evolution when we could just fix their stats/movepool/abilities instead. Adding an evolution doesn't actually fix these weaker Pokemon, it just abandons them into the vacuum space of NFE and replacing them with something which is more time, more art, more effort, then just adjusting numbers--something any other game would do.
When it comes down to it, there are a lot of Pokemon, even on this list, that I think shouldn't get an evolution for design reasons. Mostly because design-wise, it'd just be weird for them to advance any further. Be it for thematic reason, or them simply being at their "design peak", there are some bad (or more often, power-crept) Pokemon that exist in a way that would just be odd for them to get an evolution. An early example of this in your list would be Bouffalant. Another example would be the various Pika-clones, they are electric rodents, it would be weird seeing them as something bigger. If anything, they should just be buffed and given a gimmick. I also find it weird that Unfezent is here, seeing as it's already a three stage line. I'd say, the ones on the list that I agree with are: Banette Basculin (which is getting one) Stantler (also getting one) Mantine (maybe) Sudowoodo Luvdisc Cacturne Chimecho Castform Delibird Qwilfish Mawile (wish megas weren't abandoned for a worse mechanic~) Octillery Sawsbuck Gogoat Mightyena Unown Dunsparce (maybe) Also, YO WHY IS MIGHTYENA HERE BUT NOT LINOONE?! Lastly, I initially went into more detail with each and every Pokemon that appears on this list, with one of the specific topics I mention also being worth it. Which is: Buff the Ice type. It's unreasonable that the type is so fundamentally garbage when compared to every other type. There is a reason why most suck.
When you reminded me that furfrou exists and that it got fluffy, it made me curious on how bulky it would be if it got an evolution and could hold eviolite so I checked and ran some numbers, and it would actually be insane. It would have about 90% as much effective physical defense as Stakataka, but with almost 25% more HP, so it would effectively be physically bulkier than Stak in most situations lmao. It’s spd wouldn’t be any slouch either, at 90 base * 1.5. It’s attack and speed aren’t amazing, but there better than u might expect, and it’s support movepool is just ok, but with that much defense it might still be worth using lol
I still dont underestand why there are 2 pink heart shaped pokemon and they *arent* related. Like, what? Why? Luvdisc should evolve into Alomomola , it's absolutely bonkers that it doesnt.
To think that a few of those actually got evolutions or received some love recently. And most of them actually needed it. I wonder how this tier list would change now that gen 9 came out.
Everybody knows Lumineon BECAUSE it’s so forgotten, and yet they’re not on this list. Meanwhile I’m just scratching my head, going “what was a Gogoat or Zebstrika again?”
Whose here after the dominace of Annihilape and Ursaluna? (evolutions of Primeape and Ursaring respectively) also soecial mentions to Wyrdeer, Basculegion, Farigaraf, Dudunspace, and to an lesser extent Overqwil
I think it’s funny how a lot of this Pokémon are actually good in PoGo. It just comes to show you can find a niche even if it’s outside the main series games
Man, this made me think: what if Castform had a secondary ability where it gets an additional typing with terrain? So like, Fire Castform in Sunny Day, Grassy Terrain comes in and it becomes Fire/Grass? The game has evolved so much since gen 3, Castform could really see some cool changes.
Love the new edited wideos of course, but I do sometimes miss this kind of wideo, it’s just so chill, feels like a real “conversation” and I love it! 😊
A lot of these mons have actually quite good attack stats but neither the speed nor the bulk to make use of it... Eviolite Hypno sounds somewhat good to me though :)
i want a girafarig evolution so bad. imagine if it had a split evo, one for each half. level it up with a pokedoll or something and it turns into a giraffe stuffed animal and it changed to fairy/psychic type maybe. or level it up another way and the giraffe side looks like it’s decomposing and the chain chomp side takes over as the head. it could be dark/psychic or ghost/psychic. ugh I want it so bad
I really feel like this list needed an additional category “Needs buffs” because some of those mons I don’t think need an evo as much as they need a new ability, a new move, and/or some minor stat buffs.
Love this video and this style of content. Keep bringing ‘em on bb. Also big agree with a lot of folks in the comments about some of these mons just needing stat buffs/reallocations. All they really need is to have 2 of their 6 base stats be around the 75th percentile for their own typing. They don’t have to be top tier, but just as wolfey said, they need “enough stats to play the game”
Funny watching this. We knew about Wyrdeer at the time but Quilfish and Ursaring were also on this list and they got evos. I wonder if Legends Arceus improved them enough to get out of this list.
Mega Mawile & Mega Absol could have been evolutions rather than Mega Evolutions, while there are species Luvdisc & Dunsparce should have evolved into that exist. Basculin evolves into Basculegion now, while an evolution of at least some form of Stantler will also appear in Pokemon Legends Arceus. I agree that Carnivine, Qwilfish, Mantine, Hypno, Seviper, & Maractus are in need of evolutions, & there are some like Octillery, Girafarig, Ledian, Primeape, Fearow, & Kingler that alternatively could use Mega Evos needing either that or actual evolutions. I think Jynx should have gotten an evolution back during Generation 4 although it isn't on your list. Raticate, Ariados, Magcargo, Gogoat, Floatzel, & Spinda would probably be better off having Mega Evolutions.
I think Seviper is a prime candidate to be a Steel/poison type, especially in its evolution. It would give it a ton of resistances, would fit with the sword-snake thing, and buff its attack to make iron tail and poison tail (or signature stronger varients) hit well. This should be coupled by giving Zangoose something, considering they are rivals.
Personally I'd rather them buff base stats and move pools rather than tack new evolutions onto everything. It didn't really improve mons they've added to before.
It would also help with their glaring scaling issues... Just saying, like if they can't keep up with how many Pokemon are in the game, then why do they keep adding evolutions? I know they've done stat improvements in the past, but they're usually 10-20 point stat increases total and rarely do anything for the Pokemon at all. Give them better movesets and abilities, that's where the change usually matters. Like with Pelipper/Gigalith/Vanilluxe/Torkoal in the weather abilities or Mantine with Roost.
@@aetherius6221 it shouldnt be surprising that they value the more consumeristic approach as opposed to just "what long-term fans want", they're a greedy asf corporation
@@aetherius6221 They've always been on this for the money ever since they realised gen 2 wasn't going to be the last game. You're just too nostalgia blinded to see it
@@babel_UV gen 3/4/5 were made by passionate people, at least in part. Almost nothing gen 6+ feels like it has anything even somewhat devoid of corruption. I didn't even grow up on gen 3, I played it in like 2019 lmao
Tropius is my all time favorite mon so im glad to see it get attention here. Back in gen5 I fell in love with it when i learned it could use Dragon Dance. I used it as a wall breaker against status-heavy walls like Blissey or Gliscor. Harvest+Lum+Rest+Fly to stall for harvest, i'd be 2-3 dragon dances in by the time most people saw what was up. That being said, it took 3 DDs to kill anything.
I don’t think absol needs an evolution. It has a really interesting design and I love it but it’s just not great. The mega was a good step but it should’ve been fairy type 😭 I think just a regional form for absol would be great.
The amount of “This is from a purely competitive standpoint” this tier list oozes hurts me Half of these pokémon are realistically too common and too early to have those fantastic, 540 BST evos Or saying that absol is desperate for one with a base 130 attack while Spinda, a pokémon with base 60 in everything would have too strong of an evo??????
Nah absol doesn't need an evolution. It just needs better stats and an ability. Its design is the most sexiest thing I've ever seen. Even its name is perfect.
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Which Pokemon do you think needs an evolution?
Arcanine obviously
Eevee
wolfey glick needs babby forme
would like Tauros or Kangaskhan if they already haven’t
GameFreak told me that they think Charizard needs one
Finally... The return of Wolfe "I Won a Regional with it" Glick
This man's done the absolute impossible
What a name. 👏
Isn't it not Wolfe "The World Champ Baby" Glick?
@@delta-8384 he is that too
He's also wolfey "I've seen me win these" glick
We need a tierlist of all the mons he won regionals with tbh
When Unown first came out, I painstakingly collected them all, expecting them to combine into an epic mon, and was a sad child when it didn't.
Unown really feels like it would fit in the “joke Pokémon that’s a pain to evolve but their evolution is amazing” category but they just forgot to put in an evolution.
Combining them all into a huge behemoth would be the perfect way to handle that but I guess Unown aren’t good enough for something that clever lol
Kinda like how they treated Meltan -> Melmetal
In the movie focused on Unknown they were shown to be really powerful in a large swarm, so the idea of collecting all the forms and you can then do some quest to in the ruins to combine/evolve them into a swarm called "Enigma" that has very strong base stats and a strong signature ability. (Based on the whole creating things they did in the movie)
Or maybe the letter you evolve on levelup has form specific base stats, and once you have all the forms any unknown will evolve on next level up but this doesn't count as a form so you need to recatch that letter to evolve another.
Its just such a missed opportunity to follow through on the mystery of the Unkown.
@@jasonreed7522 Even smash bros used the swarm of unown as its summon. Always thought they would follow up on it since both the movie and those games showed it in action
The mechanic should be:
When your unown hits lvl20, all unown in your party try to merge in the order they are in in your inventory.
It needs to form a real 3-5 letter word from a pre-made list or it fails. The more letters it has, the better it's stats.
"I don't think we've ever had a good Water Ground type in the format"
True, except the one that has consistently been great in VGC almost every generation since it's creation.
Gastrodon looks on in disgust.
the thought of a gastrodon with a disgusted look on its face is somehow very amusing to me
Quag
@@egd5716 not good
Was swampert any good?
@@eliaelirko9849 i think Mega Swampert was good for a while, but i'm not sure since i started in gen 8
Tropius is one of my favourite designs in the series, honestly I wish it was just better instead of giving it an evolution.
I would love to see a Castform evolution, perhaps called Disastform and based on natural disasters.
That would be cool. Maybe even upgrade its ability into causing weather based on move type used.
@@locten4949 Forecast still seems fine, especially if it is just upgrading Castform's forms - Sunny to Drought, Rainy to Monsoon, Hail to Snowstorm. However, they could also change the wording back to the vaguer variation it used to have which did not specify Fire, Water and Ice, in which case they could add a Sandstorm Disastform.
Make tropious Dragon/Grass and give it thick fat or something like that to reduce that crippling ice weakness. It won't be broken but it will certainly be better
I think it should get gluttony or ripen in it's evolution over solar power.
I second this motion, imagine if the ability for disastform also worked with terrains lol
imo Castform's different forms should have higher stats than the base form. With no weather, leave it at all base 80's, but give it a Stat boost when weather is up
i always thought that it should have an ability like pixilate that makes all normal type moves a different type depending on the weather. basically just like weather ball but for all normal-type moves
How about a whacky idea like this. Castform base everything 80 except speed 100, he's a speedy boy. But the ability is under weather he changes form, type, and a stat boosts by 20 and his speed decreases by 20.
Sun - atk up
Sand - def up
Rain - sp.def up
Ice - sp.atk up
Which stat for which weather condition can be tweaked. I'm trying to think of something dynamic but not too complex...
It should also get Desolate Land, Primordial Sea and Delta Stream forms with uber stats
@@fehzorz good luck meeting a mega rayquaza
They pretty much did this in emerald kaizo, bst buff actross the board, i think its base 100 in each, and its actually relatively threatening and not a complete joke
I really wish that mega evolutions like Absol's should be made actual evolutions... my boy kinda needs it
I feel like absol needs a pre evolution, it always looked fully evolved to me
Absol also simply needs stat boosts, like +10 Def, HP and SpDef would already help it quite a bit (including its Mega which is one of the weakest)
@@charliez077 tbh, Absol mostly needs to not be in the "mediocre ass speed+super frail" club
i vote for making it actually have speed sice that'd be easier to do
I even looks like a natural evolution
@@gypsysprite4824 yup. for me it needs a boost in speed so that it can realibly use night slash+super luck. with its speed it needs sucker punch always. not that night slash would 100% replace sucker punch, but both could be used together. night slash the main and sucker punch the garanteed priority when needed.
Also a unique move that crits... maybe one that is equal to night slash in everyway, but with a priority point or 2.
I'd say a good half of these mons just need to be overall buffed purely in stats and maybe also with better abilities.
While the other half (of the likes of Dunsparce) could most certainly get both better and cooler with an Evolution.
Agreed. Id choose this solely on design and how irredeemable they are in battle.
Rather than buffing them all, something like leagues divided by total stats could give them a chance to shine with their particular abilities. In Pokemon GO stuff like Tropius or Whiscash are pretty strong in their leagues and having that combined with the abilities and movepools from the MSG could make for a cool format
@@ACLozMusik Are you suggesting something like how singles has “tiers” for its format (OU, UU, etc)?
That could be interesting for VGC but don’t hold your breath on it fixing everything, there are Pokémon so bad that they aren’t even usable in the lowest singles format
@@snuffysam Something simple like 2 tiers below the normal format based on BST caps could give a lot of room for new pokemon to emerge.
@@snuffysam it's a better suggestion than endless power creeping and stats being more important than abilities & moves in +80% of cases.
There should’ve been another tier called “needs variant.” Sometimes if you change the stats around, or switch up the typing that can be enough to at least be viable.
imagine a Bug-steel Shedinja XD
Ghost/dark shedinja would overcentralize the meta so much lmfao
@@nicolasromani3523 that would be amazing, at least it wouldn’t crumble to sandstorm. Still will die in hail, entree hazards and burn though
You should do a tier list for pokemon that you feel could successfully move to LA with and start a prime time cable sitcom with.
Magneton, hands down.
The individual Magnemite don't get along, and the whole "everyone's electronics stopped working" and "metal things are sticking to you" thing is great for physical comedy.
love this concept
Definitely not jinx, youd get cancelled right away.
I feel like we just went through the lost and found bin of pokemon. I would love to see stat redistributions for a lot of the ones you mentioned. Give these guys some love!
"The lost and found bin of pokemon" damn savage but extremely true
Dhelmise might fall into the "too strong" bin but love the concept of giving it triple stab and would be awesome to see it evolve into a whole sunken ghost barge
That would be a cool gigantamax forme
Lord knows why it's grass type tho. Like, he's obviously steel/water/ghost. Imagine water ghost w/ steel stab or ghost steel w/ water stab or even water steel w/ ghost stab lol.
Just slap some seaweed on this mfer and he's a grass type
@@dankeykang8243
If i recall, the seaweed is the pokemon, not the anchor. Dhelmise is pretty much a Ghost/Grass seaweed pokemon that just so happened to wrap around an anchor that it swings around like a weapon.
"I don't think we ever Had a good Water Ground type"
Gastrodon didn't Like that
Swampert didn’t like that
wouldn't mind Gastrodon getting another evolution
Meanwhile Gastrodon: in PU
Also Gastrodon: claps Kyogre's cheeks
Quagsire in uber didn't like that
Aren’t like… *all* the water-ground types pretty good?
It would be cool if Pokemon that already look fully evolved, like Tropius and Furfrou, could instead receive major stat buffs and gain a pre-evolution instead.
It would be great if a lot of the Pika-clones received proper evos. Emolga in particular is a mon I wish was better than it is, Electric/Flying is a pretty dope type combo that's only shared by Rotom Fan and Zapdos.
thunderus is crying
@@okbomber151 whoops I forgot the genies existed
pikachu clones: broke
raichu clones: WOKE
I agree with the former part, but the latter part seems unneeded. Like, they should just quit making Pika clones tbh.
Honestly, with regional variants, they could make them regionals of Pikachu that evolve from Pichu. You could then consolodate a few, like Pachirisu into Emolga and give Emolga a buff to match Raichu.
I think umfezant would be usable if it was ground/flying. They're based on pheasants, birds who like to hang out on the ground. And they look like they'd be ground to me
Edit: Give carnivine an ability that has a binding band built in, give it snap trap and make it steel/grass it would've be a great mon
Female Unfezent with the brown lower half looks like it could easily be a ground type. Male Unfezant with the pink mask could be psychic
I disagree with the unfezant take that mom is clearly a normal type and idk if it should change. Also carnivine would be great with a built in binding band and access to taunt
@@justaliljello5198Well it could go either way personally it seems like a ground type as well. Like I said pheasants are birds that like to be on the ground and if you look at their stomach patterns they have ground like appearance imo
@@connorradcliffe1769 True but I think ground makes sense for both. I can see the male being psychic.
Carnivine should get an ability that makes it immune to bug types and hurting Pokemon using bug contact moves on it. It’s a Venus fly trap, its whole niche should be a grass type that beats bug types
Wolfey: “Delibird is so Bad.”
Also Wolfey: “Delibird is so broken.”
Wolfey: "Delibird is so badly broken."
Is what he should be saying.
*iron bundle has entered the chat*
Moment of silence for the only third stage 'mon to make this list. RIP Unfezant
Me since gen 1: "Sandslash need a 3rd evolution."
Facts, although, I'd rather it just get much better stats and a new ability to replace the veil ones without evolving
Feels like GameFreak just made Excadrill instead and called it a day
(for which I am not complaining since I love Excadrill but I agree Sandslash and many other mons could use some buffs)
@@Nefaliss now that I think about it. Yeah. Excadrill is just what seemed missing in Sandslash.
i would call it sandsmash and make it a bulky attacker
make its spikes glass and call it panegolin!
Unown needs a fusion, like you use Unowns to write the type and then that fusion gets that type.
What the fuck.
that sounds cool af
Yea. Like Kyurem or Necrozma.
What is this, Word World?
That wouldn't work for Electric and Psychic.
A cast form Evolution that could get double typings based on combinations of weather and terrains would be insane. Like Ground/Psychic, Fire/Grass, Fairy/Ice would all be hella interesting.
Unknown should evolve into a legitimized version of missingno. If they could be willing to be tongue in cheek with it I think it could easily be a fan favorite pokemon. Give it a unique ability or move and it could be super fun. Hopefully they decide to do SOMETHING with unknown in the future. It could be really cool to have the evolved form be based off of which letters you have in your party, there are so many cool directions they could take it.
Let’s hope that some of these Pokemon on the list do get an evolution through their Hisuian Forms or future regional forms 👀
Basculin does actually
The ones that have Megas are extremely unlikely to get evolutions
@@Theeinsom no way?! Where did you hear that?!
@@PtylerBeats it was announced a long time ago. its name is basculegion
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen your face.
I think that pokemon without three stages evolutionary line shouldn't get mega or gigantimax form because it would be weird to give them a permanent evolution if they remove this features from the game
Gigantamax works because unevolved mons can have it
@@roberteospeedwagon8178 lol i forgot that pikachu, eevee and meowth have their gmax form
Pretty much agree with you said
If it happens to Pokémon with Gigantamax (already NFE Pokémon to brgin with) regarding new evos, it can eventually happens to Pokémon with Mega Evolution, since Mega Evolution is not part of Earth’s nature and come from unearthly origin, not unlike Dynamax. Doesn’t help Dynamax is way more powerful despite the three turn limites, anyways
I'd love for Lumineon to get an evolution. Make it a fast, bulky utility Pokémon with attack stats that are usable but not great.
In terms of typing, it'd obviously stay Water type, and maybe pick up Flying type? It's like the only non Flying type that naturally learns Gust, just ... do something with it.
Go all the way with the wing fins, draw inspiration from flying fish? Give it cool status moves like Whirlwind in addition to it's ridiculous status movepool (Tailwind, Defog, Sweet Kiss, etc.) and call it a day.
How about no
I don't actually think that it needs an evolution but either better stats or better coverage.
It's supposed to be a glowing, bottom of the sea living fish, yet they never gave it anything that interacts with it. Give it Tailglow or something. That way it could serve as sort of a sweeper in rain teams without being broken because even with a triple boost the special attack of it is less then stellar.
Or better coverage so it can punish water types when it switches in to soak up an attack with storm drain.
Or let it lean more into the support category. Until now it basically only has tailwind and defog for that
It can't even Toxic trap enemies anymore with Whirlpool and Toxic, so there aren't many movesets that it can use. It only does everything a little bit, but none of it good. So imo an evolution is not the solution here but a better and more coherent moveset that actually gives it a nieche. And maybe a stat buff of, like, 20 depending on what it ends up being. Better offensive coverage to make use of stormdrain? 20 more base in special attack. Better support moves? 20 more in either of the defenses and/or hit points so it can set up a tailwind, survive the turn and U-turn out. Or go in to defog hazards and then U-Turn out. Rn either is pretty much a kamikaze act.
It doesn't need to be top tier, but at least make it usable somehow
Its cool to see a handful of these guys got some evolutions
I think that many of these Pokémon would need a pre-evo.
Like absol's pre-evo with the stats of absol and then the actual absol with buffed stats. Hope it's understandable.
Very much understandable and I very much agree.
I love absol, especially the shiny, poor little guy
:(
"Its not bulky enough o be a tank, it doesn't have the support to be a supportive mon and it doesnt have the offence to actually....play the game"
-WOLFEY ON TROPIUS
I actually used Tropius in a playthrough once. Once that is...
Sad, but true.
The only thing it has are our hearts, its design is the epitomy of a unique and creative pokemon, it just doesn't have good stuff under the hood.
Gamefreak has definitely failed many potentially good pokemon by garbage move pools or misaligned base stats, especially in gens 1-3 before the split special and physical apart from type.
Unedited Wolfey with his bagel intros was peak content.
When Electrode gets an evolution, it should get an explosion-style move of every type.
Poison-Type explosion is the closest we’ll get to a nuclear bomb Pokémon.
Or it should have an ability that gives it the Explosion we used to have in Gen II - IV. Then it would actually be used. Even with Electrode's low Attack (and an evolution would probably have a higher attack), it was really, really strong.
@@iss2075 as funny in the actual games that sounds that sounds like a competitive disaster.
@@iss2075 at least give it galvanize. Electric type explosions would at least make it a bit more threatening
@@ronnycrawf2441 galvanise explosion with a ground type partner who gets outsped and uses earthquake
9:05 Honestly Delibirb has so much potential with higher speed and *Snow Warning* it has *Aurora Veil* , *Memento* and *Rapid spin* it get such cool moves like that and it might turn into a bigger birb and get *U-turn* aswell.
Edit: 9:54 Has anyone realised the Regieleki is practically just a buffed electrode?
Honestly, I remember when in gen 7 they buffed soooo many mon BST and adjusted movesets, and I'd love even more of that come gen 9. Like, dex of 300-400, but a bunch of them could get revamped movesets, stats, abilities and meaningful options and that would be rad.
Mantine is an exceptional special defensor in singles and has a pretty good movepool. Learns haze, roost, toxic, defog, ice beam, scald, etc. He can even survive to a non STAB thunderbolt from most of the special attackers in the singles' meta (he survives to a x4 thunderbolt from a 252SpA modest Gengar). He is in NU because Chansey and Toxapest exist but he's great in his role.
He plays VGC rules double battles, not Smogon single battles.
Also even by those rules, being in NU means the mon is pretty shit.
@@Zwijger Nah, NU means there's another mon that does the same job but better, not that the mon is shit.
Untiered means the mon is shit.
Honestly, Carnivine getting an evolution where it grows more heads from its core like an irl Venus Flytrap would be insanely cool. Maybe either Grass/Dragon like a hydra or Grass/Electric since irl they rely on signals from the hairs in their traps to eat?
Similar idea with Maractus. Make it grow more like irl cacti, maybe a few more arms and Grass/Fire or something?
Would love for Ursaring to get an evolution since it's my favorite 2-stage evolutionary line, but the only games it's been put in (without being a post-game or trade-only afterthought) are Gold and Soul Silver. It's one of the longest-neglected lines, so I have little hope. 🙃
Fuck no ursaring is a sick final evo. At least a mega is fine
@@buhgingo2933 idk why they made him slow. Like bears are REALLY fast.
@@kolinaspronok probably cus it’s a sleepy bear
@@buhgingo2933 then explain abra's speed
@@kolinaspronok because it’s still conscious when it’s asleep. Read it’s dex entries dude
If you're ever jonesing for some quick and easy content, I'd like to see smaller videos focusing on bad 'mons like in this list going into why they're bad and how you would buff them to be viable and distinct in VGC. You get a lot of videos like that from non-competitive type 'tubers which usually leave me feeling "that would be broken" or "that would still suck."
Jonesy Fortnite
WolfeyVGC:All these Pokemon have a unique ability like... *Repeats unique ability till he reaches Delibird* ... Um you know... *Continues with repeating unique ability.*
Delibird: Why am I so useless?
Honestly, they could just give flat stat changes instead and I'd be fine with it. A lot of these mons are totally fine as is, but with garbage stats
I don't understand how gamefreak can seemingly spend a lot of time making a pokemon with an intersting gimmick (like komala or castform) but somehow make it non-functional in battle. "Unfinished" seems pretty apt because a lot of these pokemon just feel like incomplete ideas
alternative title: every pokèmon that could get a hisuian form or evolution in pkmn legends arceus
Dunsparce finally got its evolution in Scarlet and Violet called Dudunsparce!
It has 2 forms:
The 2 Segment form
And
The 3 Segment form
it would be so cool if castform gets an evolution with maybe base 80-90 in all stats and forecast 2.0 that not only includes sand but also terrain and maybe if we go really crazy it gets dual typing if terrain and weather is up at the same time.
I think it’s funny that 4 of the pokemon on this list did get an evolution.
Chimecho has the "style" of something I could definitely see in Arceus, calling it now that it will get a regional form/evolution!
More like Shitecho
@@buhgingo2933 :(
@@buhgingo2933 it has 90 base spec attack and has support role moves like healbell (to remove toxic from your entire team at once) and it can use psychic to hit very hard.
The only thing bad he had to say about it was that legendaries/mythicals like cresselia do its job better.
@@jasonreed7522 more like Shitecho
it always annoyed me that Spinda's stats are so low just for the meme. 60 in each stat so it adds up to 360. Get it? Spinning? 360?
Nope I don’t get it. Please explain
At least Spinda has the memes. They gave Delibird and Luvdisc 330 without giving them a gimmick to match (like they did for Ditto, Smeargle, and Shedinja, all of whom have an even lower BST)
fun fact: gogoat has a BST of 531
for comparison, that's 4 points below noivern's 535 BST
Cherrim also deserves one, it's already strong, good movepool, awesome ability, but god those stats. It needs an evolution with the same ability to make it atleast somewhat meta and make it even cuter :3
Yea Cherrim is like that pokemon who’s good in doubles but terrible in singles but if it does get an evolution make it cuter :3
Best Wolfe video in a long time, love the tier lists!
Love the return of the no edits one take! The new video style is great too, but I do still love this very down to earth vid style
I've had conversations with people and though I think it would be cool, I am in the camp that it would be too broken. Give Shuckle an evolution. I think that if that were to happen Shuckle would become an insane pokemon with Eviolite.
Then make it a mega or alternate form.
@@sptflcrw8583 Mega evolution give it Stance Change as an ability, with non attacking moves making it defensive, with 60 points going into HP. That would be fun and broken as all heck.
never have i been so psyched up for the release of a lesser edited wideo.
the long intro gang is still in it
Grapploct needs a Water/Fighting evolution and a trapping based ability to get it its own niche.
Anyone else see Dunsparce, assume it's another Magikarp only to finally decide to look it up when it's like level 30 and then boxing it forever?
Rather then evolutions I'd rather the unique design ones like Absol and Cramorant to just get stat buffs. There's a precedent for it already.
Some Pokémon could use Preevolutions to be honest.
I wish the Pokémon company was okay with just changing stat totals. Like I don’t want Ledian to get an evolution, I think it’s a really cool design. What it needs is like 100 more base stats and maybe a different typing.
I don't really know why we need to give these Pokemon an evolution when we could just fix their stats/movepool/abilities instead. Adding an evolution doesn't actually fix these weaker Pokemon, it just abandons them into the vacuum space of NFE and replacing them with something which is more time, more art, more effort, then just adjusting numbers--something any other game would do.
It's nice coming back to a video like this after PLA. Stantler, Ursaring, Basculin, and Quillfish finally got some gamefreak love.
When it comes down to it, there are a lot of Pokemon, even on this list, that I think shouldn't get an evolution for design reasons. Mostly because design-wise, it'd just be weird for them to advance any further. Be it for thematic reason, or them simply being at their "design peak", there are some bad (or more often, power-crept) Pokemon that exist in a way that would just be odd for them to get an evolution. An early example of this in your list would be Bouffalant. Another example would be the various Pika-clones, they are electric rodents, it would be weird seeing them as something bigger. If anything, they should just be buffed and given a gimmick. I also find it weird that Unfezent is here, seeing as it's already a three stage line.
I'd say, the ones on the list that I agree with are:
Banette
Basculin (which is getting one)
Stantler (also getting one)
Mantine (maybe)
Sudowoodo
Luvdisc
Cacturne
Chimecho
Castform
Delibird
Qwilfish
Mawile (wish megas weren't abandoned for a worse mechanic~)
Octillery
Sawsbuck
Gogoat
Mightyena
Unown
Dunsparce (maybe)
Also, YO WHY IS MIGHTYENA HERE BUT NOT LINOONE?!
Lastly, I initially went into more detail with each and every Pokemon that appears on this list, with one of the specific topics I mention also being worth it. Which is:
Buff the Ice type. It's unreasonable that the type is so fundamentally garbage when compared to every other type. There is a reason why most suck.
I love how basculin and urasring both have new evos in arceus
When you reminded me that furfrou exists and that it got fluffy, it made me curious on how bulky it would be if it got an evolution and could hold eviolite so I checked and ran some numbers, and it would actually be insane. It would have about 90% as much effective physical defense as Stakataka, but with almost 25% more HP, so it would effectively be physically bulkier than Stak in most situations lmao. It’s spd wouldn’t be any slouch either, at 90 base * 1.5. It’s attack and speed aren’t amazing, but there better than u might expect, and it’s support movepool is just ok, but with that much defense it might still be worth using lol
Might be? It was worth using as it was. Used in triples after intimidated fighting moves did little to it and I heal pulsed damage away.
I still dont underestand why there are 2 pink heart shaped pokemon and they *arent* related. Like, what? Why? Luvdisc should evolve into Alomomola , it's absolutely bonkers that it doesnt.
Basculin did get an evolution :)
Wolfey "soothsayer" Glick
To think that a few of those actually got evolutions or received some love recently.
And most of them actually needed it.
I wonder how this tier list would change now that gen 9 came out.
Everybody knows Lumineon BECAUSE it’s so forgotten, and yet they’re not on this list.
Meanwhile I’m just scratching my head, going “what was a Gogoat or Zebstrika again?”
Lumineon isnt on the list because its just THAT forgotten, your comment reminded me of its existence
Lumineon has swift swim + soak and tailwind, it has a niche in some restricted formats
Gogoat from smash bros dude
Lumineon actually has a niche in competitive
The editors do a great job, but I'm glad to see this kind of content again!
Dundunsparce and Farigiraf say hi
ursaluna wyrdeer basculegion overqwil and annihilape say hi
Whose here after the dominace of Annihilape and Ursaluna? (evolutions of Primeape and Ursaring respectively)
also soecial mentions to Wyrdeer, Basculegion, Farigaraf, Dudunspace, and to an lesser extent Overqwil
I have a hot take. I think that charizard should get a new evolution. He has so little evolutions.
Day 1 of asking Wolfey to do more videos analyzing past VGC battles or anything related to older VGC years.
I think it’s funny how a lot of this Pokémon are actually good in PoGo. It just comes to show you can find a niche even if it’s outside the main series games
Damn does pokemon go have a meta? I haven’t played it since it came out.
Or in Unite, freaking Greedent is a menace
@@matthewfanous8468 yup, the best meta is disconnection, lag and unproper matchups 😢😢
Well, just hypno, mawile, mantine, whiscash, sableye and tropius are at least decent in GL pvp haha
Man, this made me think: what if Castform had a secondary ability where it gets an additional typing with terrain?
So like, Fire Castform in Sunny Day, Grassy Terrain comes in and it becomes Fire/Grass? The game has evolved so much since gen 3, Castform could really see some cool changes.
I wonder how many times Wolfey says “really bad” in this wideo.
Love the new edited wideos of course, but I do sometimes miss this kind of wideo, it’s just so chill, feels like a real “conversation” and I love it! 😊
Some of these guys just need increased stats and different moves sets rather then evolutions some definitely do
Fun Fact: Luvdisc is outclasses in almost every way by Squirtle
A lot of these mons have actually quite good attack stats but neither the speed nor the bulk to make use of it...
Eviolite Hypno sounds somewhat good to me though :)
i want a girafarig evolution so bad. imagine if it had a split evo, one for each half. level it up with a pokedoll or something and it turns into a giraffe stuffed animal and it changed to fairy/psychic type maybe. or level it up another way and the giraffe side looks like it’s decomposing and the chain chomp side takes over as the head. it could be dark/psychic or ghost/psychic. ugh I want it so bad
That sound really cool
I don’t understand why unknown was never given the hoopa treatment
I really feel like this list needed an additional category “Needs buffs” because some of those mons I don’t think need an evo as much as they need a new ability, a new move, and/or some minor stat buffs.
Straight from the chest no edit Wolfey is my favorite Wolfey.
Love this video and this style of content. Keep bringing ‘em on bb.
Also big agree with a lot of folks in the comments about some of these mons just needing stat buffs/reallocations. All they really need is to have 2 of their 6 base stats be around the 75th percentile for their own typing. They don’t have to be top tier, but just as wolfey said, they need “enough stats to play the game”
Can gamefreak just hire him already
the interview would go like:
gamefreak: 'so, mr wolfey. can you tell us in 5 words or less how you feel about charizard?'
wolfey: 'yes'.
gamefreak: :0
Funny watching this. We knew about Wyrdeer at the time but Quilfish and Ursaring were also on this list and they got evos. I wonder if Legends Arceus improved them enough to get out of this list.
It would be cool to see a evolution to bronzong and claydoll so that i can use eviolite on them
T h e. S t a l l.
@@simon6157 Y E S
Mega Mawile & Mega Absol could have been evolutions rather than Mega Evolutions, while there are species Luvdisc & Dunsparce should have evolved into that exist. Basculin evolves into Basculegion now, while an evolution of at least some form of Stantler will also appear in Pokemon Legends Arceus. I agree that Carnivine, Qwilfish, Mantine, Hypno, Seviper, & Maractus are in need of evolutions, & there are some like Octillery, Girafarig, Ledian, Primeape, Fearow, & Kingler that alternatively could use Mega Evos needing either that or actual evolutions. I think Jynx should have gotten an evolution back during Generation 4 although it isn't on your list.
Raticate, Ariados, Magcargo, Gogoat, Floatzel, & Spinda would probably be better off having Mega Evolutions.
I think Seviper is a prime candidate to be a Steel/poison type, especially in its evolution. It would give it a ton of resistances, would fit with the sword-snake thing, and buff its attack to make iron tail and poison tail (or signature stronger varients) hit well.
This should be coupled by giving Zangoose something, considering they are rivals.
Personally I'd rather them buff base stats and move pools rather than tack new evolutions onto everything. It didn't really improve mons they've added to before.
It would also help with their glaring scaling issues... Just saying, like if they can't keep up with how many Pokemon are in the game, then why do they keep adding evolutions? I know they've done stat improvements in the past, but they're usually 10-20 point stat increases total and rarely do anything for the Pokemon at all. Give them better movesets and abilities, that's where the change usually matters. Like with Pelipper/Gigalith/Vanilluxe/Torkoal in the weather abilities or Mantine with Roost.
Mawile needs love. Could use an evolution, or a funkier ability, I don't know. It's typing is so neat, and it deserves to shine again
we need the supercut of this vid where we just see how many really's each bad pokemon has
You’re the only competitive Pokémon player I take advice from seriously.
I dont think barbarnacle needs a evolution, maybe a mega but yeah some mons just arent competitive menaces but barbarnacle really isn't that bad
Too bad they dropped the best gimmick for terrible ones with no real gain in popularity with a huge amount of long-term fans getting pissed
@@aetherius6221 it shouldnt be surprising that they value the more consumeristic approach as opposed to just "what long-term fans want", they're a greedy asf corporation
@@babel_UV absolutely garbage lmao most profitable IP ever, minimum effort, no heart or soul since gen 5. Genuinely disgraceful.
@@aetherius6221 They've always been on this for the money ever since they realised gen 2 wasn't going to be the last game. You're just too nostalgia blinded to see it
@@babel_UV gen 3/4/5 were made by passionate people, at least in part. Almost nothing gen 6+ feels like it has anything even somewhat devoid of corruption. I didn't even grow up on gen 3, I played it in like 2019 lmao
Tropius is my all time favorite mon so im glad to see it get attention here. Back in gen5 I fell in love with it when i learned it could use Dragon Dance. I used it as a wall breaker against status-heavy walls like Blissey or Gliscor. Harvest+Lum+Rest+Fly to stall for harvest, i'd be 2-3 dragon dances in by the time most people saw what was up. That being said, it took 3 DDs to kill anything.
I don’t think absol needs an evolution. It has a really interesting design and I love it but it’s just not great. The mega was a good step but it should’ve been fairy type 😭 I think just a regional form for absol would be great.
No it’s mega should return but as just an evolution
But with only +50 BST, and fairy typing
Hail yeah
The amount of “This is from a purely competitive standpoint” this tier list oozes hurts me
Half of these pokémon are realistically too common and too early to have those fantastic, 540 BST evos
Or saying that absol is desperate for one with a base 130 attack while Spinda, a pokémon with base 60 in everything would have too strong of an evo??????
Nah absol doesn't need an evolution. It just needs better stats and an ability. Its design is the most sexiest thing I've ever seen. Even its name is perfect.
I feel Pokémon like bannete and loppunny should just get their megas as base evolutions just with a slight stat nerf so they aren’t broken
Dunsparces evolution:
I would love to see a furret evolution. Ground/fairy would be neat.
*Wolfey:* "We should do another tier list on the channel."
*Me:* "That's a GREAT idea. Let me grab some food first." 😁
Rather than new evos, I would just have boosted stats for most of them. Like, most of these Pokemon look like they are already fully evolved.
Absol looks like a final form and is perfect so doesn't need an evo. Although eviolite absol would be nice 🤣
It's so cool to know that some non meta mons in VGC are meta in Pokemon Go. Hypno is heavy meta in open meta for example.